I did this once in an MD-11 while ferrying an airplane from SJC to LGB. Just us two pilots aboard, minimum fuel plus reserves for the 50' flight. The SJC departure calls for leveling off at 5,000 feet (at least it did in the early 1990s). Right after takeoff we were climbing at 8,000 feet per minute. It made for an interestingly aggressive level off, which we began doing out of about 3,000 feet.
I remember when Finnair operated MD-11. Usually after major services they used them in domestic routes like for one hour flight with few passengers and no cargo. MD-11 was a beast. Amazing aircraft. When they were replaced with A340-300, we joked all the time here in Finland that there's no four engines, just five APU's. That was clear with Asia routes, where MD-11 took skies quite rapidly with nice climb rate. A340 was so slow and used whole runway to get airborne. Wonderful plane and workhorse that was killed by ETOPS and outdated interior look.
I flew MD-11s for WGA, I took off out of Miami with enough gas to go to LAX, no freight. 9 minutes from the time I pushed the thrust levers up for takeoff to leveling off at FL 350. I miss these rockets.
You were so lucky. Australia didn't have these. I flew on a smaller one though. I just love that great big engine on the tail. Good to see other people enthusiastic about this jet.
hello there capt! thank you so much for giving her alot of love and care. i always loved the MD-11's. to me, shes the most beautiful aircraft to me that can be built in this earth. shes the true queen of the skies for me. thanks again Capt!
Beautiful. Back in the 70s my father worked for national Airlines out of Miami. It was such a thrill to fly the DC10 to LAX the power being thrust back in the seat, the sound of the engines, was awesome!! For those of you who might not be this old. The meal service was on real China and, real silverware and very nice meals it was great!!!
Back in early 1982, I flew on Northwest DC10s from MSP to PDX and then back a few days later. Great plane and great service (back in the day). This was just a few days after the Air Florida crash into the Potomac (I think it was) and everyone on board paid close attention to the de-icing process (it was snowing like crazy in MSP that day).
Wow... That MD-11F looks imposing in the rain with those super bright lights. They add a touch of ominousness to it. And the rain really puts to perspective the unholy amount of power that those engines can deliver.
I love this plane. I’m new to the aviation world and don’t recognize too many jets yet, but when I saw this one with an engine on the vertical stabilizer I had to find out what it was… never seen that before on a plane. I hear they’re one of the hardest airline planes to land
@@henry3397 They are, due to the smaller wings and reduced aerodynamics. The approach speed is much higher than other planes it's size, and especially when it's stuffed to the brim with cargo, approach speeds become almost unmanageable on tough approach patterns. Spacing also becomes a problem when the plane in front of it can't land at the speeds the MD-11 behind it has to approach at.
Wow. He wasn't playing around. Spooling up before he even got his turn complete and got off the ground real quick! I still get to see these awesome aircraft taking off and landing daily at SDF in Kentucky.
On a few occasions as a passenger on a commercial flight I've experienced a short roll and an exhilarating takeoff almost like that one. It feels like riding with Superman!
@@r2gelfand Finnair was the 1st operator so it would be around 1990, dunno when they got their last new one, I remember them getting a few Varig ones when they went bankrupt tho. If you worked there from 1997 to 2002, if you worked on MD-11s I assume most of them were cargo ones right?
I once saw an Air Canada cargo DC-8 go out of Dublin one morning. And, I've never seen a pitch up and climb out like it, and don't think I ever will again.
NICE video sir!!! Grew up 2.5 miles east, on final, to 27R MIA. Wow, have things changed since my Prop Liner and Boeing 707 days!!! There were three of us neighborhood guys who went on the fly US Military types in the late 60's and early 70's.
Those were magnificent planes. I remember being a teenager in the mid-70s and fascinated by how something that looked like a movie theater on the inside, with people all around me , could take us up and away like a Magic Carpet Ride.
Someone I knew, told me that he was on a C-141 as FE. They were at Oceana NAS, on the parallel runway was an F-14. The -141 was empty and light on fuel. They drag raced to 10,000 feet. The -141 beat the F-14. Don't know what the F-14 was carrying. He was FE and couldn't see. Probably had the 3 full external tanks for TDY. The power to weight ratio of an empty -141 is quite spectacular. I was riding in one in lightweight condition.
I crewed 141's also, and that sounds like a fish story that just keeps getting bigger every time it gets told. 141s were able to scoot along pretty well particularly when light, but there is no way one could beat an F-14 to FL100. Assuming the story has some basis in reality, I could only surmise the F-14 jockey didn't know they were racing.
According to the story, both aircrews were in on it. The tower called the countdown to take-off. Assuming an F-14A, 5k lbs below gross (65K) has a wt/thrust ratio of 1.54 in afterburner. A C-141 with enough fuel (Oceana to Dover), I estimate has a wt/thrust ratio of 1.90. In that scenario the Tomcat is a better performer. However, I would assume that at some point the Tomcat has to come out of afterburner. After all, he still has to get to his destination (afterburner consuming tremendous amounts of fuel). In MIL power the wt/thrust ratio becomes 2.20. So the -141 has the advantage for the remainder of the climb. The FE that told me the story was a real decent fellow. I worked with him for a year or so. He was known to be a straight shooter. He couldn't tell me by how much they won. 10ft, 100ft..??
Anyone who has ever been in Lisbon knows that the airport is inside the city so you can imagine seeing these birds approaching the runway over the city buildings ... what a sight ...
Way cool!!! Except for weekends when it sits on the tarmac a UPS MD-11 flies in and out of CAE twice daily to and from Houston. What a beautiful plane to see.
I was a Loadmaster in the DC-10's & MD-11's for Gemini Air Cargo and World Airways. I miss riding in those aircraft. Sitting behind the Captain for takeoffs give you a nice view of everything. I remember once taking off out of Bogota at night, 300 ft above the runway we got struck by lightning right at the frame between the Captain's side window and my window. talking about losing your night vision at the wrong time.
I'm always gonna love this MD-11. It is sure a beautiful master piece and the most beautiful masterpiece ever made in my opinion. The MD-11. she's the only very reason why I wanted and decided to become a pilot. I'm so proud of her
I worked at the Newark Airport for about 8 years and have seen these planes a lot, the ones i saw where all cargo crafts and were very dynamic to look at.
Back in the day LTU md11s here at Faro (Southern Portugal ) when empty/ferry and with nice head wind used to get airborne in less than 700 meters.,,,maybe almost half of the distance seen on the clip, believe me! Nevertheless, great clip. For you having an ideia on google maps they did static TO's, breaks on, full power, release brakes, rwy 28, and when passing the TWY C intersection already on the air with Main landing Gear totally on the air! Around 7 to 9 seconds on the TO run! All the staff on the airport used to make a pause when a MD11 of LTU was taking off on a position flight...we used to make bets for the distance/time on the ground, the pilots hapilly knew it, those were the days ;)
these guys brought brought our equipment to honduras for deployment back in 2019. their takeoff once they were empty was insane. looked like tons of fun.
Cannot agree with you more. My greatest thrill as a kid in the Sixties and Seventies was to go out to the airport and listen to all the planes screaming above my head on take-off. It was a time before hush kits and quieter engines were invented. You could hear and feel the roar vibrating in your chest and stomach. Today's engines sound like they're eunuchs.......
They're not lame sounding. No one cares if you can't move on from the past, that's your problem. The plane took off fast due to a light load. You know nothing about aviation. You know nothing about the harmful effects of airplanes.
Might not be the fastest... I was a Delta employee on an MD 11 ferry flight from MCO to ATL in the early '90s. As I understand it, we were returning one of Delta's early leased MD 11s, that were overpowered, due to certification requirements, to the Atlanta maintenance facility. It was "overpowered". It was also an after 11pm departure from MCO. I was riding jumpseat. The 1st officer was flying. The tower said, " due to sound abatement regulations, please exidite yor climb to 10k feet". The captain told the 1st officer, " watch your tail on rotation." We were light on fuel...just enough for ATL. No cargo...no bags...no passengers...lightest ship the pilots had ever flown...expediting to 10k feet. It was a rocketship. AMAZING!
I flew the DC-10-30F for 10 years. Also a rocket at light weights, and not bad on cold/low elevation days at max t/o weight of 572K lbs). When down below max landing weight (421K lbs), an all-engine missed approach was was a busy maneuver--especially with a low level-off altitude (we said "all a-holes and elbows"). In the sim, where approaches were normally made with at least one engine failed, 2-engine go-arounds were actually easier to handle.
We had MD-11 service out off YVR for years to Amsterdam. Every time as a passenger it was a thrill to be on them. Even just sitting in them, you could feel that they were fast. Very sweet indeed. being old sucks, I know, but at least I have been able to grow up when Comets, VC-10, DC-8 and Caravelles were common. Even those lame Electras were nicer than anything these days. We had at Schiphol lots of Russian stuff but few 727 and 707. Thanks Miami Airborne.
!["ROCKET Climb" Take Off! Lufthanse Cargo McDonnell Douglas MD-11F [D-ALCJ] at Manchester Airport](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1ejJrpPKp9U/mqdefault.jpg)
Light load, minimal fuel, and generous power setting. Would have LOVED to ride jumpseat on this one. Two thumbs up!
FORTEALLOY Thanks
MiamiAirborne ,
Love the MD-11 and your videos. 😀😀😀
Dave Smith Thanks glad you like them
and strong front wind
I did this once in an MD-11 while ferrying an airplane from SJC to LGB. Just us two pilots aboard, minimum fuel plus reserves for the 50' flight. The SJC departure calls for leveling off at 5,000 feet (at least it did in the early 1990s). Right after takeoff we were climbing at 8,000 feet per minute. It made for an interestingly aggressive level off, which we began doing out of about 3,000 feet.
Aren't we fortunate to be able to watch and listen to this?!
We all are.
Merci pour ce plaisir intense sans perdre mon temps et pas décevant, superbe!!!
Nice 👍
This is what youtube was meant for
I remember when Finnair operated MD-11. Usually after major services they used them in domestic routes like for one hour flight with few passengers and no cargo. MD-11 was a beast. Amazing aircraft. When they were replaced with A340-300, we joked all the time here in Finland that there's no four engines, just five APU's. That was clear with Asia routes, where MD-11 took skies quite rapidly with nice climb rate. A340 was so slow and used whole runway to get airborne. Wonderful plane and workhorse that was killed by ETOPS and outdated interior look.
I agree on ETOPS but Interior No You Can Change it with New Trim and TVs
I flew MD-11s for WGA, I took off out of Miami with enough gas to go to LAX, no freight. 9 minutes from the time I pushed the thrust levers up for takeoff to leveling off at FL 350. I miss these rockets.
You were so lucky.
Australia didn't have these.
I flew on a smaller one though.
I just love that great big engine on the tail.
Good to see other people enthusiastic about this jet.
hello there capt! thank you so much for giving her alot of love and care. i always loved the MD-11's. to me, shes the most beautiful aircraft to me that can be built in this earth. shes the true queen of the skies for me. thanks again Capt!
i miss them too. i was a Loadmaster with Gemini from 2005-2008 and with World from 2008-2014.
Yep! I took off from BOM to DBX and at one point the VSI was pegged. Best I remember at low weights you could see a V1/Vr of 135kts.
I’m jealoussssss...
The rain, the lights, the darkness, the sounds
That's why I love planes so much !
Beautiful thank you for sharing !!
Wonderful isn't it.
Thank you so much !
u and me both
Beautiful. Back in the 70s my father worked for national Airlines out of Miami. It was such a thrill to fly the DC10 to LAX the power being thrust back in the seat, the sound of the engines, was awesome!! For those of you who might not be this old. The meal service was on real China and, real silverware and very nice meals it was great!!!
Back in early 1982, I flew on Northwest DC10s from MSP to PDX and then back a few days later. Great plane and great service (back in the day). This was just a few days after the Air Florida crash into the Potomac (I think it was) and everyone on board paid close attention to the de-icing process (it was snowing like crazy in MSP that day).
Wow... That MD-11F looks imposing in the rain with those super bright lights. They add a touch of ominousness to it. And the rain really puts to perspective the unholy amount of power that those engines can deliver.
I love this plane. I’m new to the aviation world and don’t recognize too many jets yet, but when I saw this one with an engine on the vertical stabilizer I had to find out what it was… never seen that before on a plane. I hear they’re one of the hardest airline planes to land
@@henry3397 They are, due to the smaller wings and reduced aerodynamics. The approach speed is much higher than other planes it's size, and especially when it's stuffed to the brim with cargo, approach speeds become almost unmanageable on tough approach patterns. Spacing also becomes a problem when the plane in front of it can't land at the speeds the MD-11 behind it has to approach at.
The rainy weather made for one awesome bright night for you! Very well done, amazing quality for night footage! Liked!
Ez first
@@0kngl185 haha, you’re the first after 3 years
@@AviationTribe 😂
@@AviationTribe Lol, First yet very late
What a great video -- just after rotation the effect of the MD-11's lights in the runway spray is surreal.
1:14 Amazing level of acceleration from a jumbo. The sound is symphonic....they don't make them like they used to.
because they roar fast, GE90 roars faster
Well, that's because they make them better now. Yeah, I said it.
@@brandondenver4331 well nobody questions that, they just don’t sound the same haha
@@camhackett44 Better but boring now. Old school jets like old school muscle cars sounded better.
Wow that was fast. Very light or empty cargo hold.
P7E5T0N Obviously.....
I love the MD11✈✈✈✈✈✈✈❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Me too - and L1011
fakin' gud bird
Its a DC10, it has a middle wheel
I too much is wondeful
I love every single Boeing/airbus airplane
She was very light. Impressive acceleration of this magnificent bird!
holy crap that was fast!
Anytime I hear those engines spinning up I get chills.
Wow. He wasn't playing around. Spooling up before he even got his turn complete and got off the ground real quick! I still get to see these awesome aircraft taking off and landing daily at SDF in Kentucky.
Wow, they took off in 21 seconds, that's impressive!!
Holy damn, that thing was cruising at 40,000 feet before it even reached the end of the runway.
DC-10's dont play
The "mad dog" 11 and the L1011...my two favorite birds. They are both loved by passengers and crew!
You can see in the around the globe vid lufthansa cargo, on the captains was very sentimental about the MD-11
What a beautiful plane !!!
On a few occasions as a passenger on a commercial flight I've experienced a short roll and an exhilarating takeoff almost like that one. It feels like riding with Superman!
Wow- one heck of a video! The sound is amazing- thanks for posting.
ow ow ow.. the engine sounds.. sounds like a beast roar.😍
What a beautiful takeoff !
That was one beautiful roar!!
Reminds me of when I used to work McDonnell Douglas in Long Beach.
Were you working there when that Finnair MD-11
delivered? That was an awesome takeoff!
steve
@@steveskouson9620 What date was that? I worked there from 1997 to 2002.
@@r2gelfand Finnair was the 1st operator so it would be around 1990, dunno when they got their last new one, I remember them getting a few Varig ones when they went bankrupt tho.
If you worked there from 1997 to 2002, if you worked on MD-11s I assume most of them were cargo ones right?
@@Kalvinjj Yes, you are correct
The last of the tri-jets is still a thing of beauty.
It is getting more and more sexy as years go by in front of actual "boring" planes.
I once saw an Air Canada cargo DC-8 go out of Dublin one morning. And, I've never seen a pitch up and climb out like it, and don't think I ever will again.
WOW cool fast take-off. By the way I love planes!
NICE video sir!!! Grew up 2.5 miles east, on final, to 27R MIA. Wow, have things changed since my Prop Liner and Boeing 707 days!!! There were three of us neighborhood guys who went on the fly US Military types in the late 60's and early 70's.
Loved this equipment. Back in the day I would book all my transcontinental trips on it whenever possible.
Love the steam from the exhaust and rain!
Wow ! This guy climbs like a homesick angel.
I missed this powerful airplanes 😕
Beautiful footage!! Very well filmed! I'd love to come to MIA once :D
Those were magnificent planes. I remember being a teenager in the mid-70s and fascinated by how something that looked like a movie theater on the inside, with people all around me , could take us up and away like a Magic Carpet Ride.
Someone I knew, told me that he was on a C-141 as FE. They were at Oceana NAS, on the parallel runway was an F-14. The -141 was empty and light on fuel. They drag raced to 10,000 feet. The -141 beat the F-14. Don't know what the F-14 was carrying. He was FE and couldn't see. Probably had the 3 full external tanks for TDY. The power to weight ratio of an empty -141 is quite spectacular. I was riding in one in lightweight condition.
I crewed 141's also, and that sounds like a fish story that just keeps getting bigger every time it gets told. 141s were able to scoot along pretty well particularly when light, but there is no way one could beat an F-14 to FL100. Assuming the story has some basis in reality, I could only surmise the F-14 jockey didn't know they were racing.
According to the story, both aircrews were in on it. The tower called the countdown to take-off. Assuming an F-14A, 5k lbs below gross (65K) has a wt/thrust ratio of 1.54 in afterburner. A C-141 with enough fuel (Oceana to Dover), I estimate has a wt/thrust ratio of 1.90. In that scenario the Tomcat is a better performer. However, I would assume that at some point the Tomcat has to come out of afterburner. After all, he still has to get to his destination (afterburner consuming tremendous amounts of fuel). In MIL power the wt/thrust ratio becomes 2.20. So the -141 has the advantage for the remainder of the climb. The FE that told me the story was a real decent fellow. I worked with him for a year or so. He was known to be a straight shooter. He couldn't tell me by how much they won. 10ft, 100ft..??
Anyone who has ever been in Lisbon knows that the airport is inside the city so you can imagine seeing these birds approaching the runway over the city buildings ... what a sight ...
One gorgeous plane- one beautiful take off thanks...
Now THAT is a whole hella lot of power. Thanks for sharing
Spectacular! Beautiful fast rainy night takeoff, and I’ve always loved those loud low-bypass engines!
You wrong mr jeffecake it is High bypass Engines not low like in old plane ie B707 , 727 .
Way cool!!! Except for weekends when it sits on the tarmac a UPS MD-11 flies in and out of CAE twice daily to and from Houston. What a beautiful plane to see.
Most beautiful plane ever!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to stand in horrible weather and then upload it. Many thanks.
Simply stunning
that's bad ass love it
holy cow he used up like 2,000 feet wow must have been a super light load
+Amtrak Florida Btw that is the same plane that Ricky was talking about.
sure was empty
I was a Loadmaster in the DC-10's & MD-11's for Gemini Air Cargo and World Airways. I miss riding in those aircraft. Sitting behind the Captain for takeoffs give you a nice view of everything. I remember once taking off out of Bogota at night, 300 ft above the runway we got struck by lightning right at the frame between the Captain's side window and my window. talking about losing your night vision at the wrong time.
The rain made this plane even more bad ass than she already was!
i would love to be on that jet as it takes off,thats my favorite thing when i fly,cool
I'm always gonna love this MD-11. It is sure a beautiful master piece and the most beautiful masterpiece ever made in my opinion. The MD-11. she's the only very reason why I wanted and decided to become a pilot. I'm so proud of her
i am an l-1011 guy but i have a big heart for the md 11 and the dc 10 the 727 as well
I worked at the Newark Airport for about 8 years and have seen these planes a lot, the ones i saw where all cargo crafts and were very dynamic to look at.
Full beans launch with a light load. The commercial guys watched and wished they could do that more often.
That's one sure way to clear water off the runway in a hurry!
MD 11 IS WONDERFUL
0:56 my godddd!!! and 1:13 an absolute power demonstration
Back in the day LTU md11s here at Faro (Southern Portugal ) when empty/ferry and with nice head wind used to get airborne in less than 700 meters.,,,maybe almost half of the distance seen on the clip, believe me! Nevertheless, great clip.
For you having an ideia on google maps they did static TO's, breaks on, full power, release brakes, rwy 28, and when passing the TWY C intersection already on the air with Main landing Gear totally on the air!
Around 7 to 9 seconds on the TO run!
All the staff on the airport used to make a pause when a MD11 of LTU was taking off on a position flight...we used to make bets for the distance/time on the ground, the pilots hapilly knew it, those were the days ;)
What a beautiful Take Off!!!,What a Magnificent Bird!!!.MD-11,the most gorgeus Civilian Aircraft on Earth!!!.
Wow lovely plane the MD11💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈
The lady of the skies forever in our hearts.
nice, good video. did you use an umbrella? to cover the camera
I just love an airstrip at night. The lights are so lovely
Best engine sound.
Nice aircraft
Fantastic video! The night makes it extra cool
UM dos aviões mais lindos de todos os tempos....MD-11 / DC -10
Awesome, I love the Tri-ject, modern version for the DC-10 and L-1011 love the 1011 first with autoland
these guys brought brought our equipment to honduras for deployment back in 2019. their takeoff once they were empty was insane. looked like tons of fun.
You are right... that was pretty fast (to get airborne). No doubt it was empty.
Beautiful video!! Thanks!!
The video certainly didn’t disappoint! Great catch!
I always like MD11 shape, nice
Wow fast and i Love MD 11
When you're in Miami it's always best to keep moving, smart captain
Wow!! Airplanes have a lot of power
Absolutely beautiful
I miss these things. If there was still some airliners using this thing I would love to fly one
awesome!!
Jose Junior Thanks
Beautiful sound, the best! I wish engines weren't so lame sounding these days. Planes that take off fast like this means the pilot is a pro?
They do sound lower these days ha?
“Lame Sounding”
man I can’t imagine having the best dream and and an extremely loud 707 shouting in my ears. Would suck.
Cannot agree with you more. My greatest thrill as a kid in the Sixties and Seventies was to go out to the airport and listen to all the planes screaming above my head on take-off. It was a time before hush kits and quieter engines were invented. You could hear and feel the roar vibrating in your chest and stomach. Today's engines sound like they're eunuchs.......
They're not lame sounding. No one cares if you can't move on from the past, that's your problem. The plane took off fast due to a light load. You know nothing about aviation. You know nothing about the harmful effects of airplanes.
@@jamiecloud1897 well jamie cloud not everyone likes that feeling, the animals don't either. Get over it.
I miss flying on the big planes.
A thing of beauty what a awesome sound at one time years ago I was afraid to fly in the past 15 years I have flown many many times I love it
beautiful plane.
Que espetáculo essa decolagem! 💙
Wow amazing take off
Fast indeed!!! Great footage🛫✈️
IMO, the prettiest big bird in the sky. The MD 11
Wow! BadAss!
Might not be the fastest...
I was a Delta employee on an MD 11 ferry flight from MCO to ATL in the early '90s. As I understand it, we were returning one of Delta's early leased MD 11s, that were overpowered, due to certification requirements, to the Atlanta maintenance facility. It was "overpowered". It was also an after 11pm departure from MCO. I was riding jumpseat. The 1st officer was flying. The tower said, " due to sound abatement regulations, please exidite yor climb to 10k feet". The captain told the 1st officer, " watch your tail on rotation." We were light on fuel...just enough for ATL. No cargo...no bags...no passengers...lightest ship the pilots had ever flown...expediting to 10k feet. It was a rocketship. AMAZING!
Sweet video
Nothing like it !! I love DC 10's or that is what it looks like....
Went up so fast you could see its soul rushing behind to catch up...
The acceleration from the completion of the turn was so fast, I suspect the plane was light or empty of cargo.
Agree, very moodfull and amazing shot though- thanks!
I flew the DC-10-30F for 10 years. Also a rocket at light weights, and not bad on cold/low elevation days at max t/o weight of 572K lbs). When down below max landing weight (421K lbs), an all-engine missed approach was was a busy maneuver--especially with a low level-off altitude (we said "all a-holes and elbows"). In the sim, where approaches were normally made with at least one engine failed, 2-engine go-arounds were actually easier to handle.
Can you explain in detail all of what you just said, please? :)
We had MD-11 service out off YVR for years to Amsterdam. Every time as a passenger
it was a thrill to be on them. Even just sitting in them, you could feel that they were fast.
Very sweet indeed. being old sucks, I know, but at least I have been able to grow up when Comets, VC-10, DC-8 and Caravelles were common. Even those lame Electras were nicer than anything these days. We had at Schiphol lots of Russian stuff but few 727 and 707.
Thanks Miami Airborne.
Yup, remember the common KLM flights to YVR as a kid. The Canadien DC 10s and the Air Transat L1011s!
Plane: V on…
Pilot: ROTATE!
😍😍😍 beautiful !
ellysuax3 you are
you too
Awesome 😎
I had once flown in an American Airlines MD 11, MIA-JFK ,Sept of 95’.
Wonderful