Not be like all "um actually" but spiders are arachnids not insects. They eat insects which gives your theory more depth since he refers to them all as insects.
Okay hear me out. After these recent events in the chapters of onepiece. Oda confirms the five elders are mythical zoan yokai fruits. But I think it’s much deeper than that. I feel like the 5 elders and maybe maybe imu sama are actual manifestations of their original devil fruits. Oda also revealed a while back that mythical zoan have a will of their own. So maybe the reason they’re immortal is because they are not actually humans.
My theory IMU, devil fruit or not, represents “Mara” from mythology. An old “celestial” entity that’s jealous of true gods. Oda might be playing off the lore of Shin Megami Tensei. There’s lots of parallels there (no but seriously, there's a metric ton of parallels, even one of hell being run like a government organization, but whatever back to the script). Additionally look at the forms of Mara in mythology and in Shin Megami… The traditional depiction of Mara has similarities to Tot Musica and the Devil King. The Shin Megami version is a “worm” like form with tentacles, which will surely make you laugh. In the traditional depiction, Mara has 5 floating skulls around his neck or head area (elders). Mara in both forms here, rides a massive elephant that is “cursed” (Zunesha). In Norse mythology there is also a creature called “Mara”. This creature causes nightmares, an oppressed feeling, and is defeated by taking its hat…The Spanish word for “sea” is “mar” Thank you I’ll be here all week PS: Mary Geoise = Mara Jo, which means Mara Castle. Just maybe Pangea is based on Himeji Castle, which is said to be inhabited by a yokai that HATES humans…Now with the recent info about "rabits", it reminds me of the Mayan story about the Sun and the Moon being equally bright, until a certain god threw a rabbit at it lol...dam this is a long ps... my other guess is that "Devil Fruits" is Oda doing wordplay like always and fruits are not demonic in nature but divine. "Deva" means divine and obviously sounds like "Devil", hence "Deva Fruits" = "God Fruits"...it just keeps going..
pretty elite theory dawg🤝 - just a question about a few things tho, could the 5 heads of each elder just be personalities from the Mara or just extensions given by its power? -you’re definitely hitting on some great points, it could be entirely possibly, guess we’ll see in a few weeks lol
Oda is getting scary in this whole Gorosei reveal. he made their names after planet, df based on yokai, and their title based on sectors. how can he make these unrelated elements blend perfectly to each other and fit even more crazier in the whole thematic and narrative aspect of the story
To be quiet frank I think it's as simple as the older world had less distractions. They looked up more and astrology was more important. To not know the stars was to be lost. These mythologies like Oni of the ancient world were created from the minds of the people of the day and what they knew were the stars. Oda is still amazing in taking from him I too am just amazed at his ability to see and create from all that stuff.
This might be a shot in the dark. But zoro has had 2 near death experiences. The first time “nothing happened.” The second time we can see he has an interaction with the grim reaper. Assuming it’s enma “the king of hell,” then this has HUGE Buddhism references along with egghead. Enma is known as the king of hell, rescinding in the realm of Jigoku, one of six realms of Buddha. Enma’s chief duty is to judge the souls of the newly dead and send them on to their next location. Enma may seem fearsome and terrifying, at heart, he is a kind and compassionate god, and he truly wishes to save each soul from damnation. This may be why the souls of the dead are given so many tests and trials to avoid going to hell. Zoro recently remarked that enma is testing him and claimed to be the king of hell. Zoros conquers will is oddly different then what we’ve seen so far, he has ashura. In some Buddhist traditions, the realm of ashura is considered to be the lowest level of heaven, and gets included among the “happy” rebirths. However, because ashura are so controlled by their emotions, it is almost impossible for them to achieve enlightenment, become buddhas, and escape the cycle of endless reincarnation. Souls who are reborn here are usually humans who lived good lives up to a point, but committed some wicked deed which prevents them from being reborn in the realm of heaven, sounds like Zoro! What if enma is trying to guide zoro to understanding ashura. Again enma seems fearsome but wants help, and zoro so far has passed Enmas trial when fighting king. When appearing it could easily just mention ashura leaving zoro curious. Zoro out of everyone want to ask vegapunk a question? Just showing ashura we could get a lot of info. But what next? Well I think the way to forge a black blade is you have to die while having a certain strength level and mastery/trust over the will of your blade. Mihawk has Dracula like ties and their lore with Catholicism and resurrection. Once you die you become apart of your sword, merging souls/wills. That’s why mihawk moves as if his sword is apart of him, casual swings being devastating. But the issue with zoro is he’s “died” twice. His ashura like will seems to revolve around 3. So what if in zoros case because of whatever ashura is he has to die literally 3 times😂 to turn his blades black and in a sense master ashura “reincarnating.” And I theorize that Bonny could use her near death experiment attack on zoro. When she hit the marine he said he saw the “ sanzu river,” definition is three crossings. It’s also in Buddhist mythology and says Before reaching the afterlife, the souls of the deceased must cross the river by one of three crossing points: a bridge, a ford, or a stretch of deep, snake-infested waters. Whether you need to really die or be near death idk, but with whatever information vegapunk could give us after zoro shows him ashura and ask it could work. He might have to cross the worst bridge and be the final trial for it. Either way that could be what either gets him 3 black blades since he’s fully tamed all 3, or either in addition or by itself master ashura. Meaning he could potentially use it for like a gear 4 level time limit. And just for supporting evidence for the sanzu river Bonny thing, if they see the sanzu river it also mentions this. Similarly to the Sanzu-no-Kawa, there is also the Sai no Kawara. ("Riverbed of Death"), a boundary by which the souls of children who died too early cross over to the realm of the Dead, with the help of Jizō, a Kami/Bodhisattva who helps the souls of children who died too early to avoid the attentions of the Oni and of Shozuka-no-Baba and Datsueba. During his trial crossing bridge he may see kuina, and has to make peace with certain things or do something. That near death experience could be when he interacts with wado ichimonji in the form of kuina. Wado also has Buddhist lore with the realm Tendo.
You put alot of soul into this comment and I hope what you describes turns out to be the case. Although maybe instead of bonney using NDE on Zoro, it happens during his fight against Venusjuro which would heighten the stake’s tremendously. That way both zoro and mihawk have black blades when they face off in the grand finale of one piece! Great vivid details and references from Japanese folklore. A1 theory.
Probably meeting up to somehow wrap up for her so she can move on? That would make it like Kuina meets a fate worse than death in terms of dream and the One Piece world?
Imu having a personal servant would make me sooo happy. I asked about the person talking to Imu in the flower room on reddit quite a while ago and it got dismissed as "ofc they have servants that know about Imu and the Gorosei". I mean the Gorosei I get it but Imu? I just can't believe that they would risk anyone knowing about Imu that isn't directly in charge or has been selected by Imu personally and is secluded from everyone else. Edit: Headcannon: The servant is Lily who got the opop-no mi treatment so that she could be punished for "her mistake" by serving Imu for eternity.
The people who summoned Brook were trying to summon Satan, but Satan sounds very similar to Saturn. Maybe those people saw Saturn summon himself like this and tried to summon him themselves by recreating the conditions they saw and calling (what they thought was) his name.
One piece is fun and all, but can we take a second to appreciate the fact that this man did not quit after losing a 33k sub channel. That is true determination sir and i salute you for it 🫡
I don’t how people get hack so easily when they have so many ways to protect your account 😅 I have had someone tried to hack my ig but be I have two authentication password I was notified immediately to change my password and save my account
But why RUclips didn’t help him get his account back I mean his face is on all the videos they could freeze the page from anything being deleted and etc
The RedLine used to be an orbiting ring, like the one around the LaboSphere. It was pulled down ending the Agenof Heaven, and starting the Age of the Sea Ring
It's not just blackbaerd that talks about his dreams, the entire premise of the series is about pursuing a dream. Every major character has a dream they want to see fulfilled, and it's always the very first thing we learn about them
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Ok, you win. I think you got everything on point LOL 🔥🔥🔥 really great theory I do agree about the Gorosei and Imu not really having Devil Fruits, but mostly them actually being the ancient version of Devils.
I'm really pleased to see a video that does a great elaboration on why the Gorosei are Yokai. Another argument for Imu being an Umibozu is that a sea priest of darkness would be the perfect contrast to a sun god like Nika. A god is an immortal being that brings forth the good word to liberate troubled souls while a priest is a mortal being who uses it as a means of holding authority.
Did you guys notice the celestial dragon with the sword standing in the Little of 6 treasure chests when they declare the human hunt?? Boys I read the chapter 2 x and didn't notice them till I saw someone talking about them. This will be a huge revaluation!
hmm after i watched this video i got to thinking , maybe the "giant" form that Sun God Nika has , which Luffy used against Kaido is actually a foreshadow on how Sun God Nika will eventually fight Umibozu . And it kinda makes sense that Imu has Umibozu DF
I've recently developed this theory that each of the _Gorosei_ have both a mythical zoan and a logia, both from the theory that anyone can eat more than one as long as they're in a different category from each other (meaning hybrids like mythical zoans, which are paramecia and zoan, restrict towards only eating a pure logia afterwards) and the fact that Saturn, a confirmed awakened user, could heal his wound which ties into the theory that awakened logias can heal. Blackbeard ate two pure devil fruits, the logia _Yami Yami no Mi_ and the paramecia _Gura Gura no Mi,_ and everyone, in-universe and out, was surprised...except for the _Gorosei_ who mainly say there were no RECORDS. At the time, it read as if they had no idea what to make of it; now it seems like they knew how it happened and are now worried about how the knowledge could spread. Out-of-universe, many fans are saying Blackbeard will steal a mythical zoan but I think this is false since he already had a paramecia and Kaido's comment towards Luffy's awakening all but confirms mythical zoans are paramecia/logia hybrids. There's nothing solid, but the fact that Blackbeard chose a pure paramecia to compliment his pure logia implies a hybrid fruit would kill him. Therefore, not only will Blackbeard eat a pure zoan, but each of the _Gorosei_ will have eaten a pure logia in addition to his _yokai_ fruit. The theory that logia awakenings, as I have read on the One Piece fanpage, heal the user comes from both how each awakening is a reversal of the category's basic factor and how _Akainu_ complained to the "damned haki-users" at Marineford when getting sliced. Since logia defenses usually consist of turning the user intangible via shifting into his or her element, logia awakenings may consist of utilizing the element to create more skin for healing at the cost of stamina. _Akainu's_ grumbled comment makes perfect sense with this theory plus what we know of awakenings' usual cost. Plus, this, plus the theory of the actual devil fruit limit being categories, also explains how Jaygarcia Saturn could heal himself from Bonnie's stab. Of course, this raises the question of WHAT logia each of the _Gorosei_ uses. For that answer, we look no further than Chinese philosophy concerning the five eldar planets and their respective elements. Jaygarcia Saturn is, of course, Saturn. Therefore, his element is Earth. How this translates to logia could be dust, so he could have eaten the dust-dust fruit. Marcus Mars is, also of course, Mars. The element is Fire, but since lightning and fire are already taken, this muddles things. Thankfully, we can still theorize that he has also eaten the plasma-plasma fruit. Topman Warcury clearly refers to Mercury, which in turn refers to water. Since Oda confirmed there will never be a _Mizu Mizu no Mi_ and the _Hie Hie no Mi_ & _Yuki Yuki no Mi_ are both confirmed to be out of the WG's hands, we can just say Warcury also ate the steam-steam fruit. As for Venus, his element is Metal, so his natural element is the ore-ore fruit (the _Supa Supa no Mi_ was taken to begin with). Finally, we have Jupiter, who is Wood. Since Aramaki already has the most obvious one, he may just have a different plant fruit.
The octopus theory is really interesting, but I think that Blackbeard already has three devil fruit powers. He was originally Xebec's dog (Cerberus) that ate a human-human fruit. That human-human fruit plus the two he's gained equals three. Being Cerberus would also explain why Blackbeard never sleeps (as the mythical Cerberus never slept). Adding to this, Blackbeard's ship is translated as "The Saber of Xebec." However, what a lot of people don't know is that "sabre" or "sword" in Japanese is "ken" which is also the word for "dog." So, Blackbeard's ship isn't called "The Saber of Xebec," it is actually "The Dog of Xebec" or a little more on-the-nose as even "Xebec's Dog." None of these are my original ideas. I got this from a Japanese One Piece RUclipsr, but I think, of all of the different theories I have heard, this sounds the most plausible.
A Gyuki is often a low level yokai that's "easy" to defeat going by many video game iterations. It might be that Oda gives the Gorosei power ups that no other writer has before or they are Cannon fodder whilst Imu is the true end game boss. Go Oda!
The Gorosei are each endgame bosses, Imu is the Final Boss. Zoro will probably fight Venus & we can expect Sanji to fight 1 of them as well. Of course we're still a long way from entering Pangaea Castle & we have no clue who else will be fighting although having Luffy's Top 2 Guys take on Gorosei Members seems likely. We're probably another 5 Years away from seeing how One Piece ends. Also Gyuki (an Octopus instead of a Spider) was considered the 2nd Strongest Tailed Beast in Naruto.
Mercury being a baku also makes sense, because I'm pretty sure another aspect of the Baku is that, while it will look around and eat anyone's bad dreams you can summon its help in eating your bad dreams by sleeping with some object or charm. Doing this too often can cause it to devour all of your good dreams as well, and perhaps your dreams and aspirations.
Great Video. I was thinking about why Saturn keeps calling humans insects. Since Zoans have a will of their own. What if the gorosei’s mythical demon zoan fruit’s will pretty much took over their users will, like evil possession. That could be possible be the reason why they called Luffy’s fruit a “God” fruit. God vs Demons, highest ranked mythical zoan fruits.
Quick question: Couldnt the yaobikuni be another yokai related to imu? After all, we do know for a fact that imu has been alive since the void century, most likely via the eternal youth operation as eluded to by ivankov. Incredible theory as usual btw! To say im blown away is a massive understatement!! :)
Yes it could be! But subjectively, i feel like it fits the servant better and Oda would use 2 yokai for imu, and possibly another diety from a separate culture.
I'm afraid that Blackbeard will kill Marco and take his zoan fruit. Think about it: he lacks speed, intangibility and regeneration abilities to the point that he needs to be carried around by his doctor to fight properly an enemy, but with Marco's powers he could become a dark phoenix that can cause natural disasters and can recover from any damage, and with his stamina that would be a reeeeal issue. 😬
@@blindphilosopher My guess is that Marco managed to escape at the last moment, and since then Blackbeard focused mainly on becoming a proper Yonko by amassing forces and territories... or maybe his DF is just one of those that he desires, so he's not actively chasing Marco for that reason, I mean: if I could choose between being a legendary pokemon and adding Law's DF to my arsenal, probably I would grab the Ope Ope no Mi without esitation 🤔
@@blindphilosopherThe payback war was when Blackbeard was devil fruit hunting with his crew as well. Probably this is another clue as to him already having a zoan fruit. Now whether it is Kraken, Cerberus or Bai Ze remains to be seen. Personally I think he already has the Bai Ze/Hakutaku fruit because it fits all of the unknowns about him perfectly.
I might have a kinda connection between garling and mihawk... i think garling was the previous greatest swordsman until mohawk defeated him... and i think garling is shanks' dad... i also think mihawk used to be shanks' first mate...
Vegapunk knows nothing of their devil fruits, cuz he states something like “ if this power isn’t scientific it must be of devil fruit origin “ so it seems unlikely that he would’ve tried replicating Gorosei’s DFs, heck no one apart from GRS and IMU know if they are even capable of something as such, they say that to Sabo that he must die know that he knows the truth!! He ended up escaping!! But still impel down guards are interesting af wonder whats their deal
I see lots of theories that cover Imu and Luffy. It seems like at least those 2 are inspired by multiple myths and religions. I think it will take integrating all of these ideas to fully flesh out their end game stuff.
What if the devils that inhabit the fruits were actually an ancient powerful race that somehow got trapped in the fruits. And what if Imu and the Gorosei are the only remaining devils.
I agree its probably the Baku, but I cant get over the fact that Baku's are a good natured beast. If you call on them too much then they can suck away your dreams and hopes (something that I think will tie into the story) but other wise they are regarded as a very helpful and good spirit.
Growing up watching Nurarihyon No Mago and having played Omnyoji Arena, i see patterns on the Yokai of Japanese folklore with the Gorosei making sense.
@1:55. Respectfully, To be fair, I don’t think the case is that Oda is foreshadowing years of story or reveals. I think as he goes, he looks back at what he’s done, takes into account what he wants to do going forward, and masterfully ties those all together
Chicken guy in the silhouette also seemingly has the black awakened cloud but jupiter for sure has it however im still into the monk guy theory it still seems to fit
I truly believe Blackbeards 3rd (first devil fruit) is related to the Bai Ze. Another yokai, one that has 3 faces and 3 souls. Which would align amazingly with all of Blackbeards' traits!
Personally i think the name "devil fruit" could be a red herring and they are actually named "fruits of liberation" or something similar. I think Imu and the elders are both the reason they exist but also the ones who "cursed" them. I think elders all represent some way in which the free are oppressed. For example the Ushi Oni is sometimes connected to the corruption of water, which has lead me to believe the devil fruits aren't cursed but it's the sea itself that has been corrupted to the point where it actively kills anyone who's eaten a fruit of liberation.
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spiders aren't insects my bro. insects have 6 legs, arachnids have 8. but arachnids do prey on insects so the word play still works.
Is the saturn transformation Hybrid or full transformation??
Yk we got u
@@satyambhardwaj7531it’s bofa
@satyambhardwaj7531 he has the cloud thing around him, so I'm assuming it's his awakened form
Not be like all "um actually" but spiders are arachnids not insects. They eat insects which gives your theory more depth since he refers to them all as insects.
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Insects are also an especific insult for Japanese, which is an immense insult.
@@Setarcosleaobranconah thats chinese
The fact Sabo was able to get away from all of these monsters is insane!!!!
The title flame emperor suits sabo
He have a thicker plot armor than Ace. For now.
dont forget sabo has oda as his backer XD
Okay hear me out. After these recent events in the chapters of onepiece. Oda confirms the five elders are mythical zoan yokai fruits. But I think it’s much deeper than that. I feel like the 5 elders and maybe maybe imu sama are actual manifestations of their original devil fruits. Oda also revealed a while back that mythical zoan have a will of their own. So maybe the reason they’re immortal is because they are not actually humans.
My theory
IMU, devil fruit or not, represents “Mara” from mythology. An old “celestial” entity that’s jealous of true gods. Oda might be playing off the lore of Shin Megami Tensei. There’s lots of parallels there
(no but seriously, there's a metric ton of parallels, even one of hell being run like a government organization, but whatever back to the script). Additionally look at the forms of Mara in mythology and in Shin Megami… The traditional depiction of Mara has similarities to Tot Musica and the Devil King. The Shin Megami version is a “worm” like form with tentacles, which will surely make you laugh. In the traditional depiction, Mara has 5 floating skulls around his neck or head area (elders). Mara in both forms here, rides a massive elephant that is “cursed” (Zunesha). In Norse mythology there is also a creature called “Mara”. This creature causes nightmares, an oppressed feeling, and is defeated by taking its hat…The Spanish word for “sea” is “mar”
Thank you I’ll be here all week
PS: Mary Geoise = Mara Jo, which means Mara Castle. Just maybe Pangea is based on Himeji Castle, which is said to be inhabited by a yokai that HATES humans…Now with the recent info about "rabits", it reminds me of the Mayan story about the Sun and the Moon being equally bright, until a certain god threw a rabbit at it lol...dam this is a long ps... my other guess is that "Devil Fruits" is Oda doing wordplay like always and fruits are not demonic in nature but divine. "Deva" means divine and obviously sounds like "Devil", hence "Deva Fruits" = "God Fruits"...it just keeps going..
pretty elite theory dawg🤝
- just a question about a few things tho, could the 5 heads of each elder just be personalities from the Mara or just extensions given by its power?
-you’re definitely hitting on some great points, it could be entirely possibly, guess we’ll see in a few weeks lol
@@jdot2632 this is why we love one piece
is this a copypasta
i swear i've seen this exact comment before on another video
where does Shin Megumi Tensei Pull from? Oda probably pulling from the original Source.
Oda is getting scary in this whole Gorosei reveal. he made their names after planet, df based on yokai, and their title based on sectors. how can he make these unrelated elements blend perfectly to each other and fit even more crazier in the whole thematic and narrative aspect of the story
God of story telling
I am so hyped what is to come bro
To be quiet frank I think it's as simple as the older world had less distractions. They looked up more and astrology was more important.
To not know the stars was to be lost. These mythologies like Oni of the ancient world were created from the minds of the people of the day and what they knew were the stars.
Oda is still amazing in taking from him I too am just amazed at his ability to see and create from all that stuff.
Also the 5 Elements, Like Metal
The only theorist left really. All others just do reviews nowadays. My fav channel paired with joy boy theories He also drops theories .
more like a summarizer, someone already posted a long essay on this on reddit before this, he probably just took it from there
Yeah dude so many of these youtubers just steal theories from reddit lol, though i think its fine if they credit🧐🧐🧐🧐
Reddit have a bunch of these already
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This might be a shot in the dark. But zoro has had 2 near death experiences. The first time “nothing happened.” The second time we can see he has an interaction with the grim reaper. Assuming it’s enma “the king of hell,” then this has HUGE Buddhism references along with egghead. Enma is known as the king of hell, rescinding in the realm of Jigoku, one of six realms of Buddha. Enma’s chief duty is to judge the souls of the newly dead and send them on to their next location. Enma may seem fearsome and terrifying, at heart, he is a kind and compassionate god, and he truly wishes to save each soul from damnation. This may be why the souls of the dead are given so many tests and trials to avoid going to hell. Zoro recently remarked that enma is testing him and claimed to be the king of hell. Zoros conquers will is oddly different then what we’ve seen so far, he has ashura. In some Buddhist traditions, the realm of ashura is considered to be the lowest level of heaven, and gets included among the “happy” rebirths. However, because ashura are so controlled by their emotions, it is almost impossible for them to achieve enlightenment, become buddhas, and escape the cycle of endless reincarnation. Souls who are reborn here are usually humans who lived good lives up to a point, but committed some wicked deed which prevents them from being reborn in the realm of heaven, sounds like Zoro! What if enma is trying to guide zoro to understanding ashura. Again enma seems fearsome but wants help, and zoro so far has passed Enmas trial when fighting king. When appearing it could easily just mention ashura leaving zoro curious. Zoro out of everyone want to ask vegapunk a question? Just showing ashura we could get a lot of info. But what next? Well I think the way to forge a black blade is you have to die while having a certain strength level and mastery/trust over the will of your blade. Mihawk has Dracula like ties and their lore with Catholicism and resurrection. Once you die you become apart of your sword, merging souls/wills. That’s why mihawk moves as if his sword is apart of him, casual swings being devastating. But the issue with zoro is he’s “died” twice. His ashura like will seems to revolve around 3. So what if in zoros case because of whatever ashura is he has to die literally 3 times😂 to turn his blades black and in a sense master ashura “reincarnating.” And I theorize that Bonny could use her near death experiment attack on zoro. When she hit the marine he said he saw the “ sanzu river,” definition is three crossings. It’s also in Buddhist mythology and says Before reaching the afterlife, the souls of the deceased must cross the river by one of three crossing points: a bridge, a ford, or a stretch of deep, snake-infested waters. Whether you need to really die or be near death idk, but with whatever information vegapunk could give us after zoro shows him ashura and ask it could work. He might have to cross the worst bridge and be the final trial for it. Either way that could be what either gets him 3 black blades since he’s fully tamed all 3, or either in addition or by itself master ashura. Meaning he could potentially use it for like a gear 4 level time limit. And just for supporting evidence for the sanzu river Bonny thing, if they see the sanzu river it also mentions this. Similarly to the Sanzu-no-Kawa, there is also the Sai no Kawara. ("Riverbed of Death"), a boundary by which the souls of children who died too early cross over to the realm of the Dead, with the help of Jizō, a Kami/Bodhisattva who helps the souls of children who died too early to avoid the attentions of the Oni and of Shozuka-no-Baba and Datsueba. During his trial crossing bridge he may see kuina, and has to make peace with certain things or do something. That near death experience could be when he interacts with wado ichimonji in the form of kuina. Wado also has Buddhist lore with the realm Tendo.
Hell yeah
You put alot of soul into this comment and I hope what you describes turns out to be the case. Although maybe instead of bonney using NDE on Zoro, it happens during his fight against Venusjuro which would heighten the stake’s tremendously. That way both zoro and mihawk have black blades when they face off in the grand finale of one piece! Great vivid details and references from Japanese folklore. A1 theory.
bonny can near death me all night long tbh
Probably meeting up to somehow wrap up for her so she can move on? That would make it like Kuina meets a fate worse than death in terms of dream and the One Piece world?
I've literally been waiting for someone to make this video and knew 333vil would pull through! Thanks, brother!
No problem!
Imu having a personal servant would make me sooo happy. I asked about the person talking to Imu in the flower room on reddit quite a while ago and it got dismissed as "ofc they have servants that know about Imu and the Gorosei". I mean the Gorosei I get it but Imu? I just can't believe that they would risk anyone knowing about Imu that isn't directly in charge or has been selected by Imu personally and is secluded from everyone else.
Edit: Headcannon: The servant is Lily who got the opop-no mi treatment so that she could be punished for "her mistake" by serving Imu for eternity.
Same brother
The people who summoned Brook were trying to summon Satan, but Satan sounds very similar to Saturn. Maybe those people saw Saturn summon himself like this and tried to summon him themselves by recreating the conditions they saw and calling (what they thought was) his name.
Excellent recollection of those events. Maybe that group or island gets more coverage
One piece is fun and all, but can we take a second to appreciate the fact that this man did not quit after losing a 33k sub channel. That is true determination sir and i salute you for it 🫡
How did he lose 33k subs ?
I don’t how people get hack so easily when they have so many ways to protect your account 😅 I have had someone tried to hack my ig but be I have two authentication password I was notified immediately to change my password and save my account
But why RUclips didn’t help him get his account back I mean his face is on all the videos they could freeze the page from anything being deleted and etc
The RedLine used to be an orbiting ring, like the one around the LaboSphere. It was pulled down ending the Agenof Heaven, and starting the Age of the Sea Ring
Hmm
I don't care if it was all planned from the start or if Oda is making it up a bit more on the fly, the One Piece universe is amazing.
ngl @333VIL is the best OP Theorist . . . he just brings it and doesnt waste our time by circling and cirlcling just to hit time marks. RESPECT.
It's not just blackbaerd that talks about his dreams, the entire premise of the series is about pursuing a dream. Every major character has a dream they want to see fulfilled, and it's always the very first thing we learn about them
19:56 I agree, Ju Peter being Akaguchi makes the MOST sense so far, but they’re all on point tbh
1:56 alsooo not only did we meet GYUKImaru, but through him we ALSO met USHImaru AND ONImaru!
Good job doing this video!
Itsumade was also my assumption, but the rest... no clue myself!
Thanks for the content!
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The way 333vil chats n interacts with everybody during live reactions mans it's by far the best he gives me such good vibe. No bullshit too straight into chapter n talks everything related to chapter , best theories everything about u sir is great. Keep going 💪.
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What if Venus' Kitetsu is not only the place where his true body/soul is stored, but also the source of the curse of the Kitetsu swords line?
Ok, you win. I think you got everything on point LOL 🔥🔥🔥 really great theory
I do agree about the Gorosei and Imu not really having Devil Fruits, but mostly them actually being the ancient version of Devils.
i first watch you 2 years ago from the theory that blackbeard is an octopus. glad ur doing good and still posting fire content
Sun : Luffy
Earth : Imu
Moon : Garling
Saturn : Jaygarcia
Mars : Marcus
Mercury : Topman
Venus : Ethanbaron
Jupiter : Shepherd
Poseidon : Shiraoshi
Pluton : Battleship
Uranus : Spaceship?
Black hole : Teach (wildcard)
The moment it was revealed Saturn's fruit was based on a Yokai I was waiting for someone to make a video like this, thanks!
I'm really pleased to see a video that does a great elaboration on why the Gorosei are Yokai.
Another argument for Imu being an Umibozu is that a sea priest of darkness would be the perfect contrast to a sun god like Nika. A god is an immortal being that brings forth the good word to liberate troubled souls while a priest is a mortal being who uses it as a means of holding authority.
Did you guys notice the celestial dragon with the sword standing in the Little of 6 treasure chests when they declare the human hunt?? Boys I read the chapter 2 x and didn't notice them till I saw someone talking about them. This will be a huge revaluation!
I don't get it. What about him? Is this supposed to be a joke?
6 treasure chests in the panel is the big reveal. Could be devil fruits or some other "prizes" for the contest
As of recent time, you're the only OPer I perk my ears to. Keep it up
hmm after i watched this video i got to thinking , maybe the "giant" form that Sun God Nika has , which Luffy used against Kaido is actually a foreshadow on how Sun God Nika will eventually fight Umibozu . And it kinda makes sense that Imu has Umibozu DF
Amazingly entertaining video. Wish your channel all the best, great work!
First time here u are really good man
Just for the record up to this moment, it doesnt confirmed that gorosei arent devil fruits users. Period.
Since dressrosa is seen as a microcosm of the story then I think Zoro having to search for Venus’ real body is a parallel to Zoro vs Pika
I've recently developed this theory that each of the _Gorosei_ have both a mythical zoan and a logia, both from the theory that anyone can eat more than one as long as they're in a different category from each other (meaning hybrids like mythical zoans, which are paramecia and zoan, restrict towards only eating a pure logia afterwards) and the fact that Saturn, a confirmed awakened user, could heal his wound which ties into the theory that awakened logias can heal.
Blackbeard ate two pure devil fruits, the logia _Yami Yami no Mi_ and the paramecia _Gura Gura no Mi,_ and everyone, in-universe and out, was surprised...except for the _Gorosei_ who mainly say there were no RECORDS. At the time, it read as if they had no idea what to make of it; now it seems like they knew how it happened and are now worried about how the knowledge could spread. Out-of-universe, many fans are saying Blackbeard will steal a mythical zoan but I think this is false since he already had a paramecia and Kaido's comment towards Luffy's awakening all but confirms mythical zoans are paramecia/logia hybrids. There's nothing solid, but the fact that Blackbeard chose a pure paramecia to compliment his pure logia implies a hybrid fruit would kill him. Therefore, not only will Blackbeard eat a pure zoan, but each of the _Gorosei_ will have eaten a pure logia in addition to his _yokai_ fruit.
The theory that logia awakenings, as I have read on the One Piece fanpage, heal the user comes from both how each awakening is a reversal of the category's basic factor and how _Akainu_ complained to the "damned haki-users" at Marineford when getting sliced. Since logia defenses usually consist of turning the user intangible via shifting into his or her element, logia awakenings may consist of utilizing the element to create more skin for healing at the cost of stamina. _Akainu's_ grumbled comment makes perfect sense with this theory plus what we know of awakenings' usual cost. Plus, this, plus the theory of the actual devil fruit limit being categories, also explains how Jaygarcia Saturn could heal himself from Bonnie's stab.
Of course, this raises the question of WHAT logia each of the _Gorosei_ uses. For that answer, we look no further than Chinese philosophy concerning the five eldar planets and their respective elements.
Jaygarcia Saturn is, of course, Saturn. Therefore, his element is Earth. How this translates to logia could be dust, so he could have eaten the dust-dust fruit.
Marcus Mars is, also of course, Mars. The element is Fire, but since lightning and fire are already taken, this muddles things. Thankfully, we can still theorize that he has also eaten the plasma-plasma fruit.
Topman Warcury clearly refers to Mercury, which in turn refers to water. Since Oda confirmed there will never be a _Mizu Mizu no Mi_ and the _Hie Hie no Mi_ & _Yuki Yuki no Mi_ are both confirmed to be out of the WG's hands, we can just say Warcury also ate the steam-steam fruit.
As for Venus, his element is Metal, so his natural element is the ore-ore fruit (the _Supa Supa no Mi_ was taken to begin with).
Finally, we have Jupiter, who is Wood. Since Aramaki already has the most obvious one, he may just have a different plant fruit.
Great video. Best collection of the devil fruit info thanks.
another W for 333vil, i love how you used the dark souls soundtrack
Blackbeard is basically Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean
Yeah, could be tentacles tho
Davy Jones from Spongebob*.
pretty good explanation and data.. keep up the good work....
And if you think about it.... the Florian Triangle is relatively close to Mariejois
The octopus theory is really interesting, but I think that Blackbeard already has three devil fruit powers.
He was originally Xebec's dog (Cerberus) that ate a human-human fruit. That human-human fruit plus the two he's gained equals three. Being Cerberus would also explain why Blackbeard never sleeps (as the mythical Cerberus never slept). Adding to this, Blackbeard's ship is translated as "The Saber of Xebec." However, what a lot of people don't know is that "sabre" or "sword" in Japanese is "ken" which is also the word for "dog." So, Blackbeard's ship isn't called "The Saber of Xebec," it is actually "The Dog of Xebec" or a little more on-the-nose as even "Xebec's Dog."
None of these are my original ideas. I got this from a Japanese One Piece RUclipsr, but I think, of all of the different theories I have heard, this sounds the most plausible.
Octopus theory makes more sense lol
@@darkgamingYT90022 Awesome. What about the octopus theory do you find so compelling?
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Love your stuff dude seriously. Quality.
Was waiting for this
It would be really interesting if imu is a mix of the nure onna and the imubozu. Your theory videos are really good
thanks bro!
@@333VIL you're welcome bro been a fan since 2022 glad to see you bouncing back from getting your channel hacked. Wishing you the best
A Gyuki is often a low level yokai that's "easy" to defeat going by many video game iterations. It might be that Oda gives the Gorosei power ups that no other writer has before or they are Cannon fodder whilst Imu is the true end game boss. Go Oda!
The Gorosei are each endgame bosses, Imu is the Final Boss. Zoro will probably fight Venus & we can expect Sanji to fight 1 of them as well. Of course we're still a long way from entering Pangaea Castle & we have no clue who else will be fighting although having Luffy's Top 2 Guys take on Gorosei Members seems likely. We're probably another 5 Years away from seeing how One Piece ends. Also Gyuki (an Octopus instead of a Spider) was considered the 2nd Strongest Tailed Beast in Naruto.
Omg, the Nure Onna - Nerona connection is amazing!
Thanks. I needed something to jog too this morning lol 😅
Mercury being a baku also makes sense, because I'm pretty sure another aspect of the Baku is that, while it will look around and eat anyone's bad dreams you can summon its help in eating your bad dreams by sleeping with some object or charm. Doing this too often can cause it to devour all of your good dreams as well, and perhaps your dreams and aspirations.
I'm so stoked to see a Baku. It's my fav Yokai. It's what the Pokemon Drowzee is designed after.
Great Video. I was thinking about why Saturn keeps calling humans insects. Since Zoans have a will of their own. What if the gorosei’s mythical demon zoan fruit’s will pretty much took over their users will, like evil possession. That could be possible be the reason why they called Luffy’s fruit a “God” fruit. God vs Demons, highest ranked mythical zoan fruits.
great stuff as always
Quick question: Couldnt the yaobikuni be another yokai related to imu? After all, we do know for a fact that imu has been alive since the void century, most likely via the eternal youth operation as eluded to by ivankov.
Incredible theory as usual btw! To say im blown away is a massive understatement!! :)
Yes it could be! But subjectively, i feel like it fits the servant better and Oda would use 2 yokai for imu, and possibly another diety from a separate culture.
OG Firelink shrine music in the background?! I see you 👍
Been waiting eagerly after your announcement.......finally....🤩🤩
Another banger bro
we can all agree that:
1 the gorosei all have mythical zoans
2 they all awakened their fruit
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an 333Vil's W. As usual (I haven't seen the video yet 💀)
I had a dream about you or another op youtuber using my music in a video... Just remembered
it made me so happy
Great video! I'm a subscriber now...
Love the usage of dark souls music in the background
I'm afraid that Blackbeard will kill Marco and take his zoan fruit.
Think about it: he lacks speed, intangibility and regeneration abilities to the point that he needs to be carried around by his doctor to fight properly an enemy, but with Marco's powers he could become a dark phoenix that can cause natural disasters and can recover from any damage, and with his stamina that would be a reeeeal issue. 😬
He also lacks flight. Marco's DF is perfect for Blackbeard. I wonder why he didn't go for it during the Payback War...
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My guess is that Marco managed to escape at the last moment, and since then Blackbeard focused mainly on becoming a proper Yonko by amassing forces and territories... or maybe his DF is just one of those that he desires, so he's not actively chasing Marco for that reason, I mean: if I could choose between being a legendary pokemon and adding Law's DF to my arsenal, probably I would grab the Ope Ope no Mi without esitation 🤔
@@blindphilosopherThe payback war was when Blackbeard was devil fruit hunting with his crew as well. Probably this is another clue as to him already having a zoan fruit. Now whether it is Kraken, Cerberus or Bai Ze remains to be seen. Personally I think he already has the Bai Ze/Hakutaku fruit because it fits all of the unknowns about him perfectly.
My homie became a literature teacher today 😭😂
The video theme with the pontiff sulyvahn OST hits different
Excellent video 👏👏👏👏👏
Spiders are not insects. And it fits more as hunter prey analogy for insects are food for spiders
I might have a kinda connection between garling and mihawk... i think garling was the previous greatest swordsman until mohawk defeated him... and i think garling is shanks' dad...
i also think mihawk used to be shanks' first mate...
Vegapunk knows nothing of their devil fruits, cuz he states something like “ if this power isn’t scientific it must be of devil fruit origin “ so it seems unlikely that he would’ve tried replicating Gorosei’s DFs, heck no one apart from GRS and IMU know if they are even capable of something as such, they say that to Sabo that he must die know that he knows the truth!! He ended up escaping!! But still impel down guards are interesting af wonder whats their deal
Most on point guy on youtube!
I see lots of theories that cover Imu and Luffy. It seems like at least those 2 are inspired by multiple myths and religions. I think it will take integrating all of these ideas to fully flesh out their end game stuff.
26:47 Alsoooo if Thrillerbark is somehow God Valley, maybe that’s why Imu was “checking” on it
What if the devils that inhabit the fruits were actually an ancient powerful race that somehow got trapped in the fruits. And what if Imu and the Gorosei are the only remaining devils.
That Nure Onna easter egg is perfect. Nice catch, caught me of guard!
I agree its probably the Baku, but I cant get over the fact that Baku's are a good natured beast. If you call on them too much then they can suck away your dreams and hopes (something that I think will tie into the story) but other wise they are regarded as a very helpful and good spirit.
Growing up watching Nurarihyon No Mago and having played Omnyoji Arena, i see patterns on the Yokai of Japanese folklore with the Gorosei making sense.
damm nvr subbed 2 u b4 but im sorry to hear abt u getten hacked so i am a sub now
@1:55. Respectfully, To be fair, I don’t think the case is that Oda is foreshadowing years of story or reveals.
I think as he goes, he looks back at what he’s done, takes into account what he wants to do going forward, and masterfully ties those all together
2:20 Saturn is a spider, and spiders are arachnids, not insects. Insects have six legs and arachnids have eight.
Chicken guy in the silhouette also seemingly has the black awakened cloud but jupiter for sure has it however im still into the monk guy theory it still seems to fit
My brother just came through with tht 🔥 as always
I truly believe Blackbeards 3rd (first devil fruit) is related to the Bai Ze. Another yokai, one that has 3 faces and 3 souls. Which would align amazingly with all of Blackbeards' traits!
How does this guy doesn’t have massive subscribers base, his theory + editing+ presentation are all on points.
Thank you so much!
He used to have more followers he got hacked once
Oki @@jonasrmb01
I think you were right about venus and maybe imu and if course saturn
Brook's fruit is a mythical zoan fruit and he should be the leader of the Gorosei.
Spider-Man: "Spiders are not insects!"
you are great bro! but the dark souls 2 music theme hits better ❤
that bird in the thumbnail lookin like mario got a new power up
I'd be careful with reaching too far into mythology. A lot of people also thought Wano was just going to be the story of Momoshiki.
I think Imu was Joyboys child. It’s a stretch but based on how Doflamingo was trying to parallel Imu I can see how Imu killed his father
Hope we circle back to the Florian monster, that old Umibozu reference would be an insane foreshadow.
It is crazy to me how deep you can theorycraft without knowing spiders aren't insects.
Personally i think the name "devil fruit" could be a red herring and they are actually named "fruits of liberation" or something similar.
I think Imu and the elders are both the reason they exist but also the ones who "cursed" them.
I think elders all represent some way in which the free are oppressed.
For example the Ushi Oni is sometimes connected to the corruption of water, which has lead me to believe the devil fruits aren't cursed but it's the sea itself that has been corrupted to the point where it actively kills anyone who's eaten a fruit of liberation.
spiders are not insects they are arachnids
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Insane theory bro!! I can't to see all Gorousei in a actual 1vs1 fight! Probably against the Revolutionary Army or Shanks crew
I think Saturn is gonna be in a dilema in the future and he'll end up sacrificing himself/helping them
It’s 33:3 long and bet I’m watching every second of it cause 3 nvr fails ❤ THEORY KINGGG LFGOOOOO 🔥
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I really like this theory! I could see a lot of it being actually true!
What would be even more impressive, imagine not having the ordinary weakness that the devil fruits have