Aktf 3hree Voices what do you mean by that?? You make it sound like hoshi always swears on broadcast and thats not true. Pls be careful with your words. It was totally normal to be mad and frustrated in that situation. Anyone, even u would be mad if u were in that situation. And he also apologized afterwards saying he was being immature. Hoshi is also a person and can get mad, but dont make it like as if he always swears and stuff. I'm just a korean carat passing by.
Actually it was not that bad. Seungkwan and Hoshi accidentally said "jon-na" and that word kinda like "hella" in English , like in "it hella fast". Tbh I wouldn't call that "swear". Let's just not say that so other ppl won't misunderstand Hoshi.
I was here cuz I saw some kpop birth chart & whoever the hoshi guy is has lots of Gemini 😂😂 now that's one psychopath (not that I hate Geminis) Sun-Gemini Moon-Gemini Mercury-Gemini Venus-Gemini 😂😂😂😂😂
서로 웃자고 한 일인데 형팀도 동생 팀이 예상과 빗나가서 당황했겠지 근데 순영이도 나만 몰리는 기분이어서 감정이 많이 상한 거고 솔직히 난 순영이가 거기서 솔직히 하게 감정 표현한 게 잘 했다고 보는 게 나중에 뒤에서 쌓아두고 터지면 서로 감정이 더 상할 수 있고 서로 재밌자고 한 건데 서로 생각한 상황과는 다르게 흘려가서 감정이 서로 상했다고 봐 막 나간다는 단어를 사용하면서 순영이가 감정이 확 상한 거 같은데 그래도 나중에 다 같이 모여서 푼 거 현명하다고 보는 게 카메라 앞이라고 넘어가고 나중에 풀 수 있는 문제를 카메라 신경 쓰지 않고 바로 풀은 게 서로의 감정이 더 상하지 않고 서로에게 있었던 오해 빨리 풀어서 다시 좋아진 게 다행이고 저 상황을 통해서 팬들도 진짜 세븐틴은 무슨 일이 생겨도 바로바로 푸니깐 불화설도 없구나라고 생각이 드는 거고 어찌 됐든 바로바로 푸는 게 가장 좋은 거고 풀 때도 서로 얘기 잘 들어주고 좋게좋게 잘 해서 다행이지
this isn't the first time hoshi got mad i remember during seventeen tv days he got mad at mingyu because he is not serious and keeps on playing the choreography.. waaah this boys aren't afraid to show their real self in the camera which i think is good. And the way they handle the situation is really good you can really see their sincerity and teamwork..
koro sensei There was also a time when he scolded Samuel and swore at Chan but at least he apologized to them later on. To be honest he's probably as scary as Coups.
Hoshi is always serious and does not spare himself when working.He acts like a teacher to supervise others so when the others being halfhearted he will be angry.But during leisure time he is very friendly.Even Chan has said that Hoshi is the hyung who treat him the nicest.Using the word 'scary' to describe him is quite inappropriate lol
I totally understand Hoshi's behavior in here. It's like you thought it was all fun and then suddenly everyone misunderstood you. Imagine the feeling of being cornered like that and having the pressure of standing out for the younger ones, who couldn't do anything, wouldn't you do the same?. The frustration was so evident and I couldn't imagine being in his position. I would've cried if I were~
Yess that's the point 😭 he was the hyung among them I was literally crying watching my horangi with that expressions 😭 and not only hoshi 97 liner mingyu dk and the8 everyone was so shock how the hyung line are taking it so seriously 😭and maybe the hyung line didn't thought hoshi would use his brain so they all were flustered but yes there was nothing wrong 😭 Maybe they all are just super competitive 😂 Still we know seventeen is a family and will be forever AKA best group
@@Seventeencandle Exactly! It was literally divided as the maknae team vs. the hyung team and considering the Korean heiarchy system, you could see the younger guys (esp evident w/ the usually outspoken Seungkwan and Mingyu) hold back a lot and concede quicker when the hyungs cornered them. I think Hoshi was well within his right to speak up for his dongsaengs since I also felt like the older members were being too harsh or competitive for something that was meant to be fun and was already in their favor
Never forget that one saesang confession that said nearly every saesang of seventeen are scared of Hoshi because he's the only one that will chase them down and curse them out when they overstep their boundaries lmaoo. Hoshi, as we know, is pretty jovial and happy, but he wouldn't have been selected as the leader of the performance team if he didn't have this side to him.
He basically found a fun loophole and tried to exploit it but it wasn't accepted by the other team who countered it seriously. So the mood was ruined and it felt unfair to him.
The loophole was so fun, and had the hyung team accepted it, it would have been the mother of all plot twists that happened here. (And the editor may have edited the payments part for the last reveal.) Had the hyung team accepted that, the show could have been edited better, like a final final reveal of what happened 30 minutes ago or something.
Yes maybe they didn't thought hoshi would use his brain 😭 that time I was literally in my tears watching hoshi face and other dongsaeng line expressions🥺
I have watched the hole show . if I was hoshi I would act the same way he did . They just wanted to play around but the hyung team kept asking for a receipt and honestly that was too much to spend all those money when they didn't even need those things . hushi is a human being .he totally has the right to be mad
Yes the hyung team were being way too competitive they literally scared all the dongsaeng team including seungkwan and after all hoshi was the hyung in that team so he would feel bad 😭
난 진짜 호시맘 이해가는게 둘 다 재미있자고 짠건데 형팀에서 동생팀 돈 뺏는거 (?)는 재미있고 동생팀에서 다른 꼼수를 쓴 거는 억지라고 하는게 이해가 안됐음 호시도 재미있자고 그렇게 짠거고 어차피 돈은 각 팀 마음대로 사용해도 되는거였는데 형팀에서 자신들의 행동은 용납이 되고 불이익이 돌아오게 생기니까 동생팀은 억지라고 막나간다고 여긴게 좀 그랬음 호시가 정황을 이야기했는데도 숨긴다고 한것도 충분히 화가날법함 게다가 여럿이서 안된다고 자신한테 뭐라하니까 화났던거 충분히 이해감 덧붙이자면 끝에 싸움 잘 풀어서 해결하는 모습 보여줘서 캐럿입장에서 너무 좋았던거 같아요 👍
그니까여 호시한테 뭐라할 수 있는건 방송인데 욱한 거 하나.. 그마저도 나같아도 욱할 상황 형팀이 만들었음.. 내로남불.. 똑같이 꼼수에 꼼순데 불이익될 거 같으니까 너무 몰아붙이고 말도 막나간다고 심하게해서 호시가 욱할 상황을 만들었음.. 거기까지 그렇다쳐도 자기들은 재밌자고 했는데 호시는 화낸사람 만들어서 호시가 사과하는 상황까지 간 게 진짜 너무함.. 호시도 재밌자고 한건데 먼저 몰아붙이고는.. ( 저는 캐럿이고 13명 다 사랑하고 심지어 최차애 정한 쿱슨데.. 최근에 정주행하고 저 상황에 너무 과몰입해버린 인간입니다 ) 먼저 자리 만든 형들도 잘 했고 나는 진짜 저 상황에서 잘 풀자고 사과하고 분위기 살리는 호랭이가 너무 기특하고 사랑스러워요..
okay so to conclude everything Hoshi was in hyung time before right? so he knows about the carat bong uses which is to exchanged game money with dongsaeng team. Knowing that, Hoshi trying to spend all the money but he used it on the ridiculous things such as mingyu kisses, seokmin sings show but he meant to just play around for variety. What makes the environment turn harsh was the hyung team reaction. They react harshly and demand for money. so hoshi got frustrated bcs they didn't understand his intention to play around so he acts harsh too by slamming the money on the table. (being sarcastic) so yeah.
nameless trash exactly. Gosh for once someone gets the situation. Some people are saying that hoshi is being immature and blah blah.... im just a korean carat passing by
WHAT? PPL REALLY SAY SOONYOUNG IS BEING IMMATURE? Those ppl are bloody stupid. like seriously he's just expecting to make some funny environment. Well tbh, if i were hoshi i would get pissed off too. Anyway, hiiii korean carat! Your english so effin good i thought you're international fans lol
Melethasgar that's an unrealistic expectation tbh there are like 5 people HAMMERING him with serious questions obviously he's gonna get defensive especially when no one else is siding with him. wouldn't it be hard to just suddenly joke around and say "ahah got me there!" like... the rest of svt would be so confused o.o
ㄓ gosh the line of the script of this show was for fun and he tried to be fun because that’s what the theme was and cheating is what they do and Jeonghan already cheated in a cut part of this show at a diff episode and everyone thought it was cute and funny and this wasnet as bad but coups was being to harsh and yelling DONT HIDE THE MONEY even tho he didn’t and hoshi who was supposed to be the boonekwi sallyer got mad because of that not because he got called out maybe if he just got called out funnily that might’ve been okay but they were too harsh and he was the only one who apologized
그냥 서로 예능이니까 재밌게 가고 싶어서 상황을 극한으로 몰고 가려다 보니 감정이 격해져서 이런 헤프닝이 벌어진듯. 내가 봤을 땐 정말 친구 사이끼리 언제든지 벌어질 수 있는 상황임 누구의 잘잘못을 따질 필요 없음. 그리고 애초에 형팀이 현실에서도 저렇게 공격적인 성격있다면 호시가 저 성황에서 화내지도 않았을 거임. 그냥 호시도 원래 안그로던 형들이 왜그러지? 하는 당황감 때문에 더 서운한 마음이 든 듯.
그냥 형팀은 동생팀이 첨엔 일부로 장난칠려고 숨긴거라고 생각해서 재밌게 뽑을려 그랬는데 동생팀이 안주니깐 슬슬 열받은 듯. 그리고 호시빼고는 다 완전 동생이니 호시한테만 계속 말한거같고. 근데 호시입장에선 진짠데 계속 몰아붙이니깐 화가난거같고. 형팀은 동생들 애기를 제대로 믿으려하지않았다는 것, 호시는 방송에서 욱했다는게 잘못한거같지만 누구 한팀보고 뭐라할껀 아닌거같네요.
몇 십년 본 가족이랑도 싸우고 심한 경우 손절하는 경우도 있는데 13명이 아무리 친하다 해도 당연히 싸울 수 있죠. 참다가 나중에 확 터지는 것보다 그때그때 표현하고 잘 푸는 게 더 오래갈 수 있는 것 같아요. 연습생때부터 지금까지 불화설, 왕따설 이런 거 없이 13명이 다 친할 수 있는 건 싸우기도 많이 싸우고 또 잘 화해했기때문 아닐까요:-) 전 개인적으로 비지니스 관계로 서로를 대하는 것보다 이렇게 싸우는 모습 보는 게 더 친해보여서 ㅋㅋㅋ 다른 영상보면 서로 잘못한 거 인정하고 잘 푸는 모습보여주는데 넘 예쁘네요❣
Don't be disappointed in scoups and hoshi this is just normal, and if you watched the whole ep, the next day they were taking a picture and scoups and hoshi were next to each other while scoups had his arm around Hoshi. so off cam they probably talked it out more and both apologized to each other
애들끼리 얘기하는 영상보면 다른애들도 화가 났는데 참고있다 이런얘기 오갈때 자막에 호시에 모습에 실망한 멤버들인가? 이런식으로 되있는데 호시에 모습에 실망했다기 보다 카메라앞에서 자신들이 이렇게 비춰지는거의 대해서 화난거 같고 솔직히 말하면 이제와서 잘잘못 따질건 없지만 물론 호시도 저정도로 기분상한걸 표현해내는게 안좋게 비춰질 수 있지만 저게 맞다고 보고 쿱스가 초반에 재밌게 가려던게 분위기가 잘못잡혀서 막나간다는 말은 조금 잘못됬었던거라고 봄 그 말은 싸움으로 밖에 될 수 없었던거 같음 호시입장에선 멤버의 반이 자기한테 그러는데 당연히 서운하고 답답할 수 밖에 없었고 리얼리티 그 자체를 보여줘서 더 좋은거같다
충분히 호시 맘이 이해가 되는 게 여러 명이 나한테 그러면 무안하기도 하고 속상하고 이개 이렇게 뭐라 할 일인가? 생각이 들면서 화나고 그래서 그런 것 같아요 형 팀이 잘못했다는 게 아니고 형 팀도 재미있게 해보려고 하다가 의욕이 생기다 보니 그런 거고 오빠들 모여서 대화하고 서로 사과하고 풀었으니까 혹시라도 유튜브 알고리즘으로 인해 보시가 돼 시면 오해하지 마시고 아~ 이런 일도 있었구나 하고봐주시면 좋겠네요
It's just like a bunch of friends who're trying to joke around, and the joke replied with another joke but things get tensed. I believe they faced it a lot in daily life. I'm so proud how they realise there's a problem and managed to solve the problem together. This mature kid, hope you guys doing fine.
The hyung team had the carat bong that allowed them to 'switch pocket/game money' (the one they received from the Japanese grandpa). At first, Vernon and Hoshi attempted to steal the hyung's carrier to take that carat bong (presumably to stop them from switching their game money) but turned out the carat bong wasn't in their carrier. I guess this must have pissed off the hyung team a little + made them more sensitive. Then Hoshi decided that if they couldn't get the carat bong, they should "spend" all the money and not let the hyung team get it, so he paid Mingyu to kiss him + DK to sing etc. and only left 51 yen or something in his pocket. He expected the hyungs to laugh when he told them this, but the hyungs reacted badly and demanded legit receipts etc. because it's only valid if they actually spent the money (like the hyung team did before they arrived at the accommodation) and Hoshi got pissed off instead haha. Hope this helped!
Rania Putri they wanted to steal the carat bong because Hoshi knew that Hyung team planned to spend all their money and then exchange with Dongsaeng team and let them nothing... At the end Joshua was the one who put the CaratBong in his backpack so that's why the only thing that Dongsaeng team could do to avoid getting robbed was spending that way... But well Hyng team was competitive and didn't want to accept that... so Hoshi got angry
i read the comments before watching and i seriously was so scared to watch the video and oMG ITS SO SCARY TO SEE HOSHI MAD LIKE WE ALWAYS SAW HIM AS A HAPPY SUNSHINE, IVE NEVER SEEN THIS SIDE OF HIM BEFORE AND WHEN HE SLAMMED THE DRAW THING CLOSE, I WAS SCARED SHITLESS OMG.
I cried watching this eps because I felt like I could understand Hoshi frustration and anger and I never wanna re-watch this scene ever again because I don't want to hold a grudge on any members 😭💕
Hoshi 😢 *When his mad, then he will show it even though theres camera. *when he's not embarrased to do something, then he will not pretend to get embarrased. *when he's not scared, then he will not pretend to be scared. ***Hoshi is someone that will do anything/everything what his heart wanted to....
What makes me sad is no one from the dongsaeng line helped Soonyoung when the hyung line was all upon Soonyoung forcing him to give the money. The Korean culture of youngers respecting the elders despite the situation and can't being able to talk back is sometimes not very good
That's true and I don't think none of the dongsaeng team is intimidating type. Honestly, I think the team leader (sc, woozi, hoshi ) and Jeonghan are that type and sometimes I see Seungkwan like that too, but maybe because he's the youngest member, and he's cute so not really obvious. Naturally, in my opinion the Dongsaeng team chose to be silent, especially when they were in front of the camera, because their character and position were also the youngest members. if I was in the position of Hoshi I might act like him, but on the other hand I understand why the hyung team is like that, obviously they just want to make the situation exciting, but what happened Hoshi who was unable to tolerate this and got angry. I was still impressed 95's line didn't get angry and ended up choosing to talk about this even though they were actually angry with Hoshi's attitude. I feel sorry for the members of the Dongsaeng team who don't know what to do.
@@blackneko9401 I mean you're not wrong! They are idols and are supposed to be keeping their image clean, but still I'd wish if atleast one or two of the younger members would have spoken up! I liked how Jeonghan took the initiative to settle this! Btw it's all in the past, they all get together so well, that's what matters hehehe !
I really enjoy this part to be honest. Apart from all the comments about their harsh conversations, I’d like to remind something that: 1. At the beginning, hyungs team was already very competitive, even within their team, which i guess contributed to their harsh conversations, while dongsaengs team was more chilled and peaceful 2. It was a relief to see that hoshi tried to defense their team, even though he used to be in the hyungs team, and spoke the truth that ‘we just want some fun, why are you guys dead serious and scary’ i think that’s a bold statement to hyungs while all the cameras were there filming 3. Although he showed his anger and he had his points tbh, he apologise loudly in front of everyone. That makes me so warm cuz it is not an easy thing to do - to admit your mistake. Salute to my lovely hamster and tiger 🐯
I MEAN IT'S NOT even his mistake. He didn't make any mistake. That's what made me so angry for this moment. He apologized when he pointed out the hyungs' seriousness and hypocrisy. It's great he said sorry but the hyungs didn't even bother to say sorry when they created such an atmosphere. But anyways it's in the past😂😂
이 에피소드에서 호시 너무 안쓰러워서 혼자 주절주절 적어보는 글... 애초에 형팀은 자신들이 가진 돈을 몽땅 흥청망청 다 사용하고 동생팀 돈과 교환할 계획만 세움. 반면 동생팀은 형팀이 가진 돈 몽땅 쓰고 교환하자고 할 것을 미리 예상하고, 한수 더가서 자신들의 돈도 지혜로운 방법으로 다 사용할 계획을 세움. 결과적으로 형팀 계획은 예상에서 빗나갔고 동생팀 계획은 예상에 맞았으니 동생팀이 계획에 성공한게 맞고 동생들 돈은 형들이 뺏어갈게 아니라 동생들이 그대로 가지고있는게 맞다고 본다. 만약 동생팀이 형팀의 계획을 미리 예상하지 못했고, 형들이 돈을 교환하자고 하는 그 순간에 갑작스럽게 말을 바꿔서 돈을 안바꾸겠다고 우기는 상황이였더라면 형팀의 주장처럼 '돈을 숨긴것', '서로의 돈을 교환해야하는 찬스를 거부한 것'이 맞다. 하지만 동생팀은 형팀의 계획을 미리 예상해서 호시가 민규에게 뽀뽀를 구매하거나 도겸에게 노래를 구매하는 과정을 구체적으로 설정하고 예능에 맞게 재미있는 상황까지 만들려 노력한 모습을 영상 증거로 까지 남겨둔 상태라서 제작진이나 시청자 누가봐도 '돈을 사용한것'이 맞았다. 그리고 형들이 돈을 교환하자고 했을때 호시는 미리 계획했던대로 바로 돈이 든 주머니를 건내며 그렇게하겠다고 말하며 서로의 돈을 교환해야하는 찬스를 거부하지도 않았다. 논리적으로 따져봤을때 이 상황에서는 분명 제작진이 동생팀의 편을 들어주는 게 맞았다고 생각된다. 형팀은 동생팀 상황이나 설명을 자세히 들어보거나 제대로 인정하려하지도 않고 공격적인 말투로 이건안된다 저건안된다 강하게 부정하고, 애초에 없었던 영수증과 관련된 내용을 마음대로 지어내서까지 너무 강압적으로 억지부리고 몰아부치는 모습이 보기 불편했다. 형들이 다같이 그렇게 몰아부치니 다른 어린 동생들은 눈치만 보며 말대꾸 해보지도 못하고, 그나마 호시가 동생팀에서 제일 형이라 대응해보려고 시도했는데 형들 말투나 태도가 너무 공격적이라 거기에 이미 감정이 상했고 호시도 괜히 싸우거나 일을 키우기 싫어서 말대꾸 않고 그냥 돈 넘겨주라고 한게 뻔히 보인다. 솔직히 동생팀 입장에서 충분히 억울한 상황에 형팀의 공격적인 말투나 태도 때문에 호시 충분히 짜증낼만함. 여기서 가장 중요한 포인트는 사실 호시는 '돈이 뺏겨서' 짜증이 난게 아니라 '형들의 공격적인 말투와 이기적인 태도'때문에 감정이 상해서 짜증이 났다고 봄. 여기서 만약 형팀이 눈치껏 상황보고 '어? 호시가 기분이 상한 것 같은데... 장난으로 하려고 했는데 우리가 말이 너무 심했나? 의도한게 아니지만 기분이 상했다면 미안하다.' 라고 말했으면 호시도 마음 상한거 풀리고 조금 억울하지만 그래도 예능이니까하며 기쁜마음으로 돈 순순히 넘겨줬을 듯. 근데 형들이 호시가 기분 상했던 말던 상관안하고 마지막까지 낄낄 웃으면서 동생팀 돈을 기여코 뺏어가버린게 이해가 안되고 세상섭섭. 게다가 형팀 멤버들이 '나도 화날뻔 했는데 촬영 중이라 참은거다, 호시가 방송중인데 화난거 티낸거 잘못이다.'라는 늬앙스로 말한 것도 들으니 속상했고, 사실은 호시가 사과나 위로를 받아야 하는 상황인데 13명중에 아무도 그걸 몰라주는게 더 답답했다. 결국 다같이 화해 시간 가지고 좋게 풀어서 다행이지만, 마지막에 호시가 '그렇게 행동해서 멤버들한테 미안하고, 자기자신에게 부끄럽다'고 말하며 자기반성하는 것보고 두번 맴찢 두번 속상... 후... 이번 편은 진짜 몇번을 다시봐도 뜻밖의 호시 대인배 에피소드
와 진짜 설명 잘 해주신 것 같아요 동생팀에서도 형팀이 그렇게 할 것이라는 걸 알고 호시도 역으로 계획을 세운건데 형팀이 분위기를 너무 어둡게 만든 건 맞음... 그때 형팀이 웃으면서 와 이렇게 당하다니 라는 뉘앙스로 허탈하게 웃으면서 하면 동생팀도 웃으면서 끝났을 것 같은데 영수증 있어야 한다, 그런 게 어딨냐 하면서 형팀이 너무 호시한테 강하게 말하는 모습이 조금 그랬음 ㅠㅠㅠ 호시가 화난 상태에서 웃으면서 돈 갖고 나간 모습도 그렇고 형팀끼리 있을 때 자기도 화 날 뻔했다 하고,, 형팀이 나서서 오해 풀려고 얘기하는 시간을 바로 만든 건 좋았지만 그 시간에서도 호시만 나빴던 것처럼 형팀이 말하니까 뭐지 싶었음 ... 뭐 방송에 나온 모습이 다인지는 모르겠지만 편집 된 영상에라도 형팀이 자기들이 그렇게 몰아 가려 해서 미안했다 이런 말 했기를 바람 ㅠㅠ 고잉세븐틴 보고 세븐틴에 호감 가져서 옛 영상들 찾아보고 하는 도중 어느 멋진 날을 보게 되었는데 이 장면때문에 호시한테 더 호감 갔다 자기가 방송 중 화내서 미안하고 가족들이랑 친구들이 이 영상 볼텐데 넘 쑥쓰럽다고 다 자기 잘못인 것 마냥 말하니까 안쓰러우면서도 착한 게 넘 느껴져서 ㅠㅠ 호시도 세븐틴도 더 잘 되길 !
@@gpd.u.s 공감해요! 이번 에피소드에서 형팀의 격한 말투와 태도가 햄찌분노사건의 원인이었다가 팩트! 그래도 형아들이 원래 승부욕이 강한 성격 + 예능형 꼼수대마왕들이라 동생팀을 오해할 수도있겠구나하고 상황이 이해는 되고, 형팀이 호시에게 실수는 했지만 나쁜 의도는 전혀 없었다고 보여요 :) 다만, 저도 이번 에피소드통해서 호시를 다시 보게되었어요! 충분히 속상하고 섭섭할 수 있는 상황이었는데도 화해시간 가질때 누군가의 잘잘못을 따지기 보다는 자신을 낮춰서 먼저 사과할 줄아는 자세가 참 멋지고 대단하다고 느꼈어요. '이런 자리 마련해줘서 고마웡~' '내가 미안해' '가족들 친구들 볼텐데 쑥스럽네요 아이참~' 라고 곧바로 사과하고 반성하는 모습도 정말 인상깊었어요. 자신의 자존심보다는 팀의 평안을 먼저 생각하는 그런 유연한 리더의 자세랄까. 호시 넘나 착한 순둥이 뽀시래기 호감상인것...! 😚💛
참고로 이 편 이후부터 원우랑 아바타 게임으로 화해하기 전까지 그 사이의 영상들에서 호시 살펴보는 것도 의외의 관전잼이 있습니다! 화해는 했지만 아직 약간 서먹서먹한 기분이 있는지 호시 거의 가장자리를 맴돌며 조용히 있는게 개인적으로 호시 내향형 인간인거 티나는 모먼트라고 생각해서 귀여워요ㅎㅎㅎ 게임 이후에는 목소리도 다시 커지고 깨방정 떨며 씩씩해집니당
For me, of all the 13 members, Soonyoung is the scariest when mad because no one will ever expect a happy hamster to turn into mad tiger in the middle of a fun show. Even the maknae line got worried coz they knew how scary their Soonyoung hyung is.
for the members who are trying to smile and lighten up the mood...this is not scripted...i swear if without camera they will really explode [but we all know even if they'll explode they can fix it] this is a situation which they didn't expect that they'll go on the limit...
Although I lowkey get goosebumps watching this, it's nice that they didn't cut this scene out/sugarcoat anything since it's expected that there would be some arguments with a group with thirteen members. It just shows how much stronger they are as a group.
뭐 근데 결국 싸우고 난 뒤에 모니터링이든 다시 곱씹어보든 해서 잘못한거, 부끄러운거 제일 잘 아는건 본인일거에요. 화해하는 영상도 바로 싸우고 난 직후라서 본인들의 행동이나 말투를 되돌아보기엔 짧은 시간이었기도 하고 오래가고 분위기 좋은 팀인 이유가 뭐겠어요. 서로 서운한거 없이 다시 잘 풀었을거에요. 이 게임이 뭐라고 승부욕이 뭐라고 이렇게까지 과열됐을까 하는 마음이 다 들었을거에요. 형팀도요. 개인적으로 저도 저 때 대처가 잘못되지 않았나 푸는과정이 너무 한쪽에 치우치지않았나 싶었거든요. 근데 결국 본인이 잘못한건 본인이 제일 잘 알고 다들 이후에 다시 풀고 했을걸 생각하니 성장하는 과정이겠구나 다음에 이런일들이 생기지않게 또는 생기더라도 지혜롭게 현명하게 잘 해결해나가겠구나 하는 확신이 들더라구요
I think what triggers Hoshi to explode was when Seungcheol choose him in exchange to Seungkwan for their team. He was still accepting the reality that he will never win over Wonwoo then another circumstances came about the caratbong. Hoshi was pressured because he became the leader for the maknae team and he knew about the next move of the hyung team. Even though he made a plan when the hyung team arrived they pressed him hard that cause him to being annoyed. The hyungs keep talking in unison that triggered him to burst his anger. Hoshi is a bright type of person but do not dare pissed him off. I enjoyed watching this show for couple of times now but in this part of the episode, i also felt what Hoshi felt and we cannot blame him because the hyung team cause him to get mad. Anyway, i just love the part when they talk all together and talk about what just happened right away. In friendship, if you don't argue with each other then your bond isn't strong enough. Seventeen just showed us how strong their bond is and how comfortable they are with each other that they can freely express what they feel in the situation they are making. No worries carats, having arguments with your friends is normal and at the same time fun coz u can used it to teased them later on hahahha
Honestly i kind of liked (?) it to see that they showed him being frustrated. Maybe i didnt word it right but i mean they usually don't show those sides. And Hoshis frustration is totally understandable, i'd be frustrated too.
Beside his angry, i'm very touched and soft how hoshi's deal or treat his young brother, like he will sacrifice his life just to protect his lovely dongsaeng🥺
I suddenly remembered how one of the members chose the "loud" Hoshi over a "silent" one. Cause he's really scary in here. But I still commend how they were able to fix the situation by talking things out. It just shows SVTs bond and teamwork is that good. Having 13 people in the same room and living with them for years, is really is not that easy. But since its SVT themselves it looks easy and fine. BTW, I really miss their 2 OFD. Season 3 when? huehue Horanghae Hoshi-ah! Seranghae SEVENTEEN!!!
I guess that it will be hard at this point have season 3 😢, since One Fine day is from MBC and now that SVT’s company is a subsidiary of HYBE *(a company that doesn’t have good relations with MBC),* maybe will never have a One Fine Day of SVT again… 😭😢💔
서로 재밌게 할려고 숨기고한거같은데 형팀애들이 조금 강하게 밀어 붙여서 호시 상황에선 그냥 줘보자 해서 주는데 또 거기서 애들이 말하는 바람에 호시 입장에선 당연히 화나고 그렇지 ... 그런데 또 누가 잘못이다 할 수 있는것도 아니고.. 뭐 그래도 잘 해결되서 정말 다행...
To be honest, if I were in Hoshi's position I would also do the same thing, after all, the maknae team's initial intention was to make an interesting, funny storyline that could make you laugh.look when hoshi buys mingyu's kiss and dk's singing looks very fun and funny that's not what the maknae of the team expected to do something interesting and funny, But as soon as the hyung team came like hoshi and the Maknae team said the atmosphere immediately changed, we can also see how depressed the Maknae team is plus the team hyung doesn't want to give up and constantly asking for money from the maknae team, that's where Hoshi's emotions really peaked and he gave all the money feeling annoyed, angry and disappointed. It's a bit too much if Hoshi is called emotional or can't control his emotions in front of the camera. ️🙂
Everytime I watch this, I always get reminded that this is the other side of Hosh that we rarely see on cam. If I'm not mistaken, it was Mingyu who said that Hosh is a bit of a hot-headed and moody. It's a Gemini thing, I guess, to feel all sorts of extremes and I'm pretty sure Hosh here was "judged wrongly" so he felt the need to slam that chair to release his anger instead of blurting out hurtful words.
honestly I felt so bad watching this, Hyung team acted so selfish that they actually forced Hoshi to give them the money. I don't want to imagine what will happened if younger team actually spended all the money. I know that younger team joke wasn't the best and funnier. Also the hyung team spended their money just for not having nothing to give the younger team and honestly thats too bad, scoups smile at the end makes me angry and I can tell that I can understand why hoshi's behaviour was like that.
i saw it more as they had no choice, going to a store was not included in the dongsaeng team plans, by the time they arrive at their base camp, they wouldn't be able to spend their money. hoshi, being the oldest in the dongsaeng team felt pressured to protect them/their money too. i am more disappointed with the hyung team who can't just give up that they got played. ofc, hoshi's reaction at the end part was also immature.
Hyung team is just making jokes, but Hoshi got mad, he admitted it that immature actions. If I am in Hyung team, I'll be mad too, bcoz hyung team didn't mean that.. They are just making jokes that time. Hoshi got easily mad bcoz he thinks that their hyung team is bullying them, that's why. I'm in the middle, I understand both
It was an incident that can happen when a bunch of people live together. People, even if they're almost like family, still fight here and there. What's important is that they're still close friends so there's no need for us to point fingers here.
@@aimi_rly6752 hoshi's reaction is understandable, its not immature. How would you react when you were in his shoes. The hyung team take his joke too seriously and confronted him, and in the end they indirectly blamed everything to hoshi. Hoshi was the only one who say sorry, the hyungs don't even feel sorry for making hoshi upset.
So from what I interpret, the hyung team wanted the money in the pouch which Hoshi took out previously and 'spend' the amount of money. I think the carat bong had something to do with it. They hyung team wanted the receipts as proof that he spend the money as S.Coups was sure that he hid the money. Turns out, Hoshi used to money for things like making DK sing as seen in the video and he say he made Mingyu kiss him 3 times and pay him too which I'm not sure if it's true or not. The other members looked flustered as they did not know that they hyung were that serious. Even Seungkwan who was in the hyung team at this time. DK then asked what's with the situation which Jeonghan said that nothing's wrong and Hoshi said that they just wanted to see the receipts that showed the money spent. The hyungs just kept pestering for the reciepts until Hoshi burst at 3:32 and said " We are just having fun but why are (you guys) making the atmosphere like this, I'm scared to death." (sth like this) And I think he was being sarcastic. Then he threw the pouch on the table and said that he will give them the money and that was when DK took the money out of the bag and Dino clapped once and said "Ok. Let's give it them". I think that the hyung team have the chance to exchange money with them. At 4:02 DK said the amount of money the dongseong team was left with, which I think was spent by the hyungs. I think they were left with not a lot of money and the hyung spent almost everything, I think it was 27000won if I heard correctly. at 4:06 Hoshi said just forget about it and shoved that cushion under the table in frustration. This is just what I interpreted, I'm not that good in Korean so I might be wrong.
you're welcome😁. After watching otber videos I realised that Hoshi knew bout the advantage the hyung team had cux vernon stole their carrier, but since he can't steal the carat bong he tried to spend his money so that the hyung will be left with no money when they used their advantage. But it backfired
It makes me feel so EXCITED for the eng sub of ep 6!!! LIke aaarrrrggghh!!! INTENSE!!! Just a minute ago, as I watch the other clips of ep 6 (exchange member scene) was so hilarious and then I came here and saw this one. AARRGGHH!!!! I think I'll be having a mixed emotion for this ep. and I LOVE IT!!! hahaha LOL coz I am confident that they are okay with each other already so the most interesting for me now is how they reconcile after this.
Oh yeah, I just saw that clip already. It makes me adore them more. I know that misunderstanding within a group is inevitable but the way they handle and resolve it really makes me respect them seriously. It's not easy to be in a group of 13 young boys having different personalities. Even the other boy bands having only 4-6 members was disbanded before coz of conflicts and misunderstanding so imagine how much the pressure it is, in seventeen, but they prove to people that even they have mood swings every once in a while, they can resolve it. Their bond is really not a joke. This is definitely the result of being together (living together) for many years now. I'm so impressed and proud of them.
okay! lemme try and translate this in the most summarized way(not accurate); hoshi: I will buy dk singing *soonseok talk talk talk~* *hyung team.. well, mixed team arrives* coups: captain..... I'll go first jisoo: okay seungkwan: our captain is so kind *door locked* coups: open the door *small arguments* dk: why? *the hyung-- mixed team enters* jeonghan: we have to do a mission hoshi(?): wait, why is this so scary? jeonghan: what's your mission? dk: we don't have a mission jeonghan: because you guys went to the sea(?) *hoshi and jeonghan points at each other* *wonwoo shows the "mission" which I can't read* hoshi: go and have it(?) coups: stop kidding around jeonghan: is it finished? where did you spend it? *coups checks* coups: he really spent it all (??????) seungkwan: where? (where did he spend it) woozi: where? where did you spend it? hoshi: mingyu's kiss was about ¥??? *jeonghan's "huh"* *opposing team eiiiii* hoshi: I bought it you know!! coups: _((did this boy use satoori??))_ the leader is such a joke(?) hoshi: can't I do that?(?) _((sorry, I'm not that sure))_ jeonghan: I dont think so.... *they start arguing and saying they need to have the receipt* *they feel the tension* *seungkwan's short interview explaining the tension* (??????) hoshi: we're trying to make it fun, why are you making it so serious??? you're bring really scary right now... fine we'll give you(x2).... give it give it(keeps repeating it) Chan: *trying to lighten up the mood* *_shows woozi cause soonhoon knows each other ((lol sorry, not seriously about this part)) then worried meanie ((sorry, still not serious about this part))_* the8: that's it that's it Chan: it's just a game, it's just a game coups: is this really all? hoshi: yes that's all... go go go.... *some of them leaves* hoshi: ahhhh this is so annoying *slams the chair* seungkwan: *is more worried after what hoshi did*
leekwon parkmin your welcome but it's quite inaccurate and I missed some things to translate. and yes, I've been lacking my ships so I had to add them 😂😂😅
Just watch this now and I really wanted to appreciate Hoshi. He is usually fearless, but in that situation he must have felt so cornered and at lost (thus he said the atmosphere was scary) and his reaction was just him being defensive, not because he was mad or annoyed. I understand the hyung team too since it's a game it's normal to be competitive. They just had different idea of making the show fun at that time and it was fine. Shua suggesting them to talk things out, HaniCoups leading the talk, all other members trying to lessen the tension and Hoshi apologizing tho he wasn't really at fault show that they genuinely put their group before their own ego. I really want to give Hoshi a tight hug when he kept apologizing and felt embarrassed for showing this side of him in front of camera. Like seriously, he shouldn't be. If anything, I'd say he had just shown how mature and wise he could be at such a young age, he should be around 21 or 22 at that time. Horanghae 🐯
The hyung get serious in this game. I feel bad for hoshi. He even said that he's scared when the hyung confronted him that's why he surrender the money. I'm disappointed with the hyungs in here but at least, when things like this happened they talk and fixed it.
형팀은 형팀대로 동생팀은 동생팀대로 속상하고 욱할 상황이였는데 늘 느끼는거지만 싸우더라도 카메라 앞에서의 형식적인 사과가 아니라 많이 해왔어서 자연스러워진 세븐틴만의 화해를 하는것같아서 너무 다행인것같아... 앞으로 싸우더라도 이날처럼 잘 풀거같아서, 더 돈독해질거같아서 안심되고 좋다😊
No hoshi you are not immature, you literally matured enough to say sorry after all this thing. Those who is immature is me! Who still feel salty and bad for dongsang team even this is not my first time watching it after a few years.🙂 And Hyung team is not cruel. The competitive spirit boiling inside them make the situation look bad.
근본적으론 제작진이 너무 대결구도로 판짠게 문제 아닐까 생각.. 걍 다르게 여행하고 좋은 찬스 쓸수 있는걸로 했음 좋았을텐데...재미를 위해서 천국행 지옥행 나누고 저런 찬스권 만들어 주니 써야지 어째;; 나같아도 많이 다쓰고 바꾸겠다 ㅋㅋㅋ 승질낸건 호시가 잘못한건 맞지만 뒤에가서 잘못했다고 잘못도 인정하고 사과도했으니 됐지 동생팀 대장하면서 잘하고 싶었던 마음에 그랬을거임ㅠ 둘다 이해감
난 두팀 다 너무 이해가 된다ㅜㅜ 물론 호시 입장에서는 장난쳤는데 너무 공격적으로 반응하고 몰아세우니까 서운함이 터져버린거고 형들 입장에서는 승관이가 말한거처럼 카메라 앞에 있고 상황을 찍고 있는 걸 알면서 정색하고 표정관리 못하는 호시에게 실망하면서 화가 난거고 ㅜㅜ 우리끼리 놀 때도 저렇게 놀다가 한명이 정색하면 분위기 안좋아지는데 방송으로 찍고 있는 상황이였으니 쿱스 입장에서는 리더로써 책임도 있으니 호시가 대놓고 카메라 앞에서 정색하는게 화가 났던 것 같고ㅜㅜ그래도 마지막에 맏형라인들이 다들 쉽게 못나서는 상황인데 나서서 먼저 오해였고 우리 질못도 있다고 인정하고 호시도 기분 나쁜거 티내서 미안하다고 사과해서 너무 보기좋다ㅜㅜ 세봉이들 영원하자 진짜ㅜㅜ
For anyone taking this too seriously, remember the guys clarified in a VLIVE that they had to film this 3 times and this isn’t the original clip (they basically redid it for the show , seventeen's acting debut). All my frustrations went away after knowing this 😂
보다가 넘 안쓰러워서 그냥 혼자 분 푸는영으로 적어봄 동생팀은 그닥 솔직히 잘못한거없다고 봄 형팀이 돈 다쓰고 용돈 바꿀 걸 아니까 우리도 똑같이 하자 그런뒤에 돈 쓰는 룰에 제약이 없으니까 그냥 그런 식으로 한거고 근데 형팀이 게임에 의욕이 과열되어서 좀 공격적으로 말이 나와서 동생팀들은 형들이니까 아무 말 못하고 듣고있기만 하고… 호시가 그래도 동생팀 리더로써 말 한 것 같은데 말 하다 보니까 서로 과열되어서 이렇게 된거고… 호시 입장에선 섭섭하고 화날 만 했다고 생각함 그리고 형들팀 화나고 실망했다 하는것도 이해가 안가는것만은 아니었음 그래도 본인들이 먼저 공격적으로 나간 거 알면 마지막에 다같이 사과를 하는 게 좀 더 좋지않았을까 함 호시만 사과하고 처음 형들팀 들어올때도 형들이 분위기 무겁게 끌고가니까 호시랑 찬이가 억! 무서운데! 하면서 분위기 푸려고 하는 거 보임 형들이 동생팀 추궁하니까 동생들도 표정 점점 굳어가는거 보이고 형들팀에 있던 승관이도 이럴줄몰랐다고 하면서 표정안좋고 눈치보는거 다 보임 형들팀만 말 많이 하고… 그리고 쿱스가 막나간다고 하니까 웃자고 한건데 왜 그러지 자막이랑 동생팀들 당황한게 넘 잘 보임 물론 호시도 어느정도 잘못은 있겠지만 ..
볼때마다 마음아포 형팀 입장도 이해가지만 동생팀 다 너무 순딩해서 암말도 못하고 있으니까 동생팀 맏내인 호시가 다 말하고 그런거 같은데 자꾸 몰고 막나간다 하고 자기딴에도 재밌게하려고 민규 뽀뽀에 돈 썼다 이렇게 한거같은데 형팀이 영수증 있냐 막 이러니까 게임인데 막 다 자기한테 그러니까 속상하고 열받고 그랬을거 이해감.. 저런 상황 겪어봐서.. 형팀도 뭐 재밌게하려고 그랬는데 뽀뽀에 썼다 이래서 어처구니 없어서 몬걸수도 있겠지만 맘아퍼다
ok I can understand Hoshi here as before in hyung team they were rich right then he was forced to change into younger team which are poorer then the money are bout to be taken by hyung team he must be hiding his angered and finally explode.... he can't even pay his revenge towards wonwoo ehehehe.... i'm super shock and don't think i can watch this again.. it was so scary hoshi ya....
I don't think it's about hoshi being forced to changed with dongsaeng and wonwoo revenge case here he already said after changed in dongsaeng team that it's ok he will adore dongsaeng team now And situation here was out of control everyone would have reacted same the way Hoshi reacted people believe or not hyung team were too much but it's in past and all is well now but wanted to point out that it wasn't related with those things you were saying.
No! The hyung team had 27,000 won and the dongsaeng team had 32000 won but the hyung team had the advantage of switching their pocket money, so the hyungs decided to spend all their money and then swap which will leave the dongsaeng team with 0 money and the hyung team will get the dongsaeng money which is 32000won even after spending every penny. The hyungs also had the advantage of switching one member from both teams so they chose suengkwan to be in the hyung team and sent Hoshi to the dongsaeng team
hoshi is someone who is really bright but when he got angry i got scared to death even seungkwan looks so flustered :(
Aktf 3hree Voices what do you mean by that?? You make it sound like hoshi always swears on broadcast and thats not true. Pls be careful with your words. It was totally normal to be mad and frustrated in that situation. Anyone, even u would be mad if u were in that situation.
And he also apologized afterwards saying he was being immature. Hoshi is also a person and can get mad, but dont make it like as if he always swears and stuff. I'm just a korean carat passing by.
Actually it was not that bad. Seungkwan and Hoshi accidentally said "jon-na" and that word kinda like "hella" in English , like in "it hella fast". Tbh I wouldn't call that "swear". Let's just not say that so other ppl won't misunderstand Hoshi.
But he is damn sexy
I was here cuz I saw some kpop birth chart & whoever the hoshi guy is has lots of Gemini 😂😂 now that's one psychopath (not that I hate Geminis)
Sun-Gemini
Moon-Gemini
Mercury-Gemini
Venus-Gemini
😂😂😂😂😂
@@hbyul1221 한국인!?
서로 웃자고 한 일인데 형팀도 동생 팀이 예상과 빗나가서 당황했겠지 근데 순영이도 나만 몰리는 기분이어서 감정이 많이 상한 거고 솔직히 난 순영이가 거기서 솔직히 하게 감정 표현한 게 잘 했다고 보는 게 나중에 뒤에서 쌓아두고 터지면 서로 감정이 더 상할 수 있고 서로 재밌자고 한 건데 서로 생각한 상황과는 다르게 흘려가서 감정이 서로 상했다고 봐 막 나간다는 단어를 사용하면서 순영이가 감정이 확 상한 거 같은데 그래도 나중에 다 같이 모여서 푼 거 현명하다고 보는 게 카메라 앞이라고 넘어가고 나중에 풀 수 있는 문제를 카메라 신경 쓰지 않고 바로 풀은 게
서로의 감정이 더 상하지 않고 서로에게 있었던 오해 빨리 풀어서 다시 좋아진 게 다행이고 저 상황을 통해서 팬들도 진짜 세븐틴은 무슨 일이 생겨도 바로바로 푸니깐 불화설도 없구나라고 생각이 드는 거고 어찌 됐든 바로바로 푸는 게 가장 좋은 거고 풀 때도 서로 얘기 잘 들어주고 좋게좋게 잘 해서 다행이지
this isn't the first time hoshi got mad i remember during seventeen tv days he got mad at mingyu because he is not serious and keeps on playing the choreography.. waaah this boys aren't afraid to show their real self in the camera which i think is good. And the way they handle the situation is really good you can really see their sincerity and teamwork..
koro sensei There was also a time when he scolded Samuel and swore at Chan but at least he apologized to them later on. To be honest he's probably as scary as Coups.
Hoshi is always serious and does not spare himself when working.He acts like a teacher to supervise others so when the others being halfhearted he will be angry.But during leisure time he is very friendly.Even Chan has said that Hoshi is the hyung who treat him the nicest.Using the word 'scary' to describe him is quite inappropriate lol
Aktf 3hree Voices can you say me which épisode ?
Black Shadow seungkwan said once the scariest hyung when mad is hoshi
@@ruahae5589 do you have a vid of that
누가 많이 잘못한건 아니지만 상황이 충분히 호시가 짜증날수 있는 상황인거같고 난 애들이 카메라앞에서도 감정에 솔직할수 있는게 좋음. 믿음도 더 가고. 실제로 다퉈도 저정도 느낌이란거잖어. 다투고 푸는 과정마저 솔직하게 보여줘서 그냥 고마움..
ㅇㅇ어차피 방송하다가 분위기 좀 과열돼서 서로 눈치보고 카메라 앞인데... 하면 그냥 어영부영 다 어색하게 웃으면서 진행해야함 그게 볼때 더 어색하고 별로일 것 같음
호시가 화난 이유가 뭔지 모르겠어 답장 부탁해 🌹💞💖😢🤔
.@@Noor.752
서로 웃기려다 보니까 욕심 생겨서 동생들한테 약간 몰아붙이기도 하고 그거에 속상해서 순영이가 화낸 거 같은데 쿨하게 서로 잘못 인정하고 잘 화해해서 멋있었다
I totally understand Hoshi's behavior in here. It's like you thought it was all fun and then suddenly everyone misunderstood you. Imagine the feeling of being cornered like that and having the pressure of standing out for the younger ones, who couldn't do anything, wouldn't you do the same?. The frustration was so evident and I couldn't imagine being in his position. I would've cried if I were~
Yess that's the point 😭 he was the hyung among them I was literally crying watching my horangi with that expressions 😭 and not only hoshi 97 liner mingyu dk and the8 everyone was so shock how the hyung line are taking it so seriously 😭and maybe the hyung line didn't thought hoshi would use his brain so they all were flustered but yes there was nothing wrong 😭
Maybe they all are just super competitive 😂
Still we know seventeen is a family and will be forever
AKA best group
@@Seventeencandle and that's the reason why they're bond stand strong until now.
Me too🙂 I think I would do the same if I was in hoshi's position
@@Seventeencandle Exactly! It was literally divided as the maknae team vs. the hyung team and considering the Korean heiarchy system, you could see the younger guys (esp evident w/ the usually outspoken Seungkwan and Mingyu) hold back a lot and concede quicker when the hyungs cornered them. I think Hoshi was well within his right to speak up for his dongsaengs since I also felt like the older members were being too harsh or competitive for something that was meant to be fun and was already in their favor
Recently Hoshi said that "sometimes it's tough to laugh when you don't want to" and after watching this I really can feel him.
It's true when the quiet person gets angry its 10x scarier for the receiving end
He's not even quiet, more like a cheerful person
@@explosionneko9990 well he is an introvert ;-;
@@explosionneko9990 you don't know him in real life
Hi! Im new here just asking where i can watch with full English subtitles?
@@dentapermata8066 oh Okay thank you 😊
그냥 형팀은 형팀대로 동생팀은 동생팀대로 예능이니까 웃자고 한거같은데 서로 오해가 생겨서 난 해프닝같은데 이 다음에 애들끼리 잘 푼거 보고 진짜 오래갈 거 같다는 생각함 ㅠㅠ 승관이가 동생이라 그런가 마지막에도 눈치 보넹,, 귀여워
You can really tell Kwon Soonyoung is a great leader, he can absolutely stand for his team.
Yess 😭😭😭😭 ❤️🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅
Never forget that one saesang confession that said nearly every saesang of seventeen are scared of Hoshi because he's the only one that will chase them down and curse them out when they overstep their boundaries lmaoo. Hoshi, as we know, is pretty jovial and happy, but he wouldn't have been selected as the leader of the performance team if he didn't have this side to him.
동생팀이 어려서 말도 못하고 있고
호시밖에 말을 제대로 할 수 있는 사람이 없어서 호시가 나서서 말한 느낌ㅜㅜ
그러니까 호시한테만 뭐라하고 탓하는데
너무 억울할 것 같아…
상황이 너무 맘이 아파서 이때 영상은 언제나 보기 힘들다
아 저도요... 호시가 동생팀 대표니까 자기가 총대 매고 다 한 느낌...
호시 오빠는 너무 착한게 저렇게 여러명이서 한명을 막 다굴하면 억울하고 화 엄청 낼수도 있는건데 참고 그러고 뭐 사달라도 장난식으로 말해도 다 사줌..넘 착해서 어떡해 진짜
호시 한번쯤은 화낼것같았음 1화부터 보신분들은 아시겠지만 호시가 원우 대장님한테 엄청 당하셨지..더하여 멤버교체되고 벌칙으로 설거지도 하고 돈도 다 잃을것같고 말은 안해도 엄청 속상하지..반대로 형팀입장은 당연히 방송이니까 재밌는상황 만들자였고 싸우고 대화로 푼게 좋았음 호시가 화 안내고 그냥 넘어갔으면 보는 입장에서 제가다 억울했을것같아요
동생들이 형들한테 아무말도 못하니까 동생팀에 있던 호시가 더 서운하고 속상한듯하네요ㅠㅠ
He basically found a fun loophole and tried to exploit it but it wasn't accepted by the other team who countered it seriously. So the mood was ruined and it felt unfair to him.
The loophole was so fun, and had the hyung team accepted it, it would have been the mother of all plot twists that happened here. (And the editor may have edited the payments part for the last reveal.) Had the hyung team accepted that, the show could have been edited better, like a final final reveal of what happened 30 minutes ago or something.
Yes maybe they didn't thought hoshi would use his brain 😭
that time I was literally in my tears watching hoshi face and other dongsaeng line expressions🥺
I’m confused what was going on?
@@itzaisha5145 you should watch the full episodes and the show to understand better
호시도 많이 섭섭했겠고 멤버들도 많이 당황했겠다.. 장난으로 재밌자고 했는데 분위기가 갑자기 싸우는 분위기가 되니까 충분히 짜증이 날 만한 상황인 것 같다.. 저렇게 몰아붙이면 섭섭하지.. ㅠㅠ
I have watched the hole show . if I was hoshi I would act the same way he did . They just wanted to play around but the hyung team kept asking for a receipt and honestly that was too much to spend all those money when they didn't even need those things . hushi is a human being .he totally has the right to be mad
Yes the hyung team were being way too competitive they literally scared all the dongsaeng team including seungkwan and after all hoshi was the hyung in that team so he would feel bad 😭
yeah even I watched the whole show and hyung team were in the wrong. Ngl even I got mad at them too.
Seungkwan looks so adorable when he's serious worried.
난 진짜 호시맘 이해가는게 둘 다 재미있자고 짠건데 형팀에서 동생팀 돈 뺏는거 (?)는 재미있고 동생팀에서 다른 꼼수를 쓴 거는 억지라고 하는게 이해가 안됐음 호시도 재미있자고 그렇게 짠거고 어차피 돈은 각 팀 마음대로 사용해도 되는거였는데 형팀에서 자신들의 행동은 용납이 되고 불이익이 돌아오게 생기니까 동생팀은 억지라고 막나간다고 여긴게 좀 그랬음 호시가 정황을 이야기했는데도 숨긴다고 한것도 충분히 화가날법함 게다가 여럿이서 안된다고 자신한테 뭐라하니까 화났던거 충분히 이해감 덧붙이자면 끝에 싸움 잘 풀어서 해결하는 모습 보여줘서 캐럿입장에서 너무 좋았던거 같아요 👍
엄청 순화해서 말했는데 한마디로 그냥 형팀이 잘못했음 형팀에서 내로남불이였음
그니까여 호시한테 뭐라할 수 있는건 방송인데 욱한 거 하나.. 그마저도 나같아도 욱할 상황 형팀이 만들었음.. 내로남불.. 똑같이 꼼수에 꼼순데 불이익될 거 같으니까 너무 몰아붙이고 말도 막나간다고 심하게해서 호시가 욱할 상황을 만들었음.. 거기까지 그렇다쳐도 자기들은 재밌자고 했는데 호시는 화낸사람 만들어서 호시가 사과하는 상황까지 간 게 진짜 너무함.. 호시도 재밌자고 한건데 먼저 몰아붙이고는.. ( 저는 캐럿이고 13명 다 사랑하고 심지어 최차애 정한 쿱슨데.. 최근에 정주행하고 저 상황에 너무 과몰입해버린 인간입니다 ) 먼저 자리 만든 형들도 잘 했고 나는 진짜 저 상황에서 잘 풀자고 사과하고 분위기 살리는 호랭이가 너무 기특하고 사랑스러워요..
그니까요 형팀 내로남불에 소름 돋았음
okay so to conclude everything Hoshi was in hyung time before right? so he knows about the carat bong uses which is to exchanged game money with dongsaeng team. Knowing that, Hoshi trying to spend all the money but he used it on the ridiculous things such as mingyu kisses, seokmin sings show but he meant to just play around for variety. What makes the environment turn harsh was the hyung team reaction. They react harshly and demand for money. so hoshi got frustrated bcs they didn't understand his intention to play around so he acts harsh too by slamming the money on the table. (being sarcastic) so yeah.
nameless trash exactly. Gosh for once someone gets the situation. Some people are saying that hoshi is being immature and blah blah.... im just a korean carat passing by
WHAT? PPL REALLY SAY SOONYOUNG IS BEING IMMATURE? Those ppl are bloody stupid. like seriously he's just expecting to make some funny environment. Well tbh, if i were hoshi i would get pissed off too. Anyway, hiiii korean carat! Your english so effin good i thought you're international fans lol
Melethasgar that's an unrealistic expectation tbh there are like 5 people HAMMERING him with serious questions obviously he's gonna get defensive especially when no one else is siding with him. wouldn't it be hard to just suddenly joke around and say "ahah got me there!" like... the rest of svt would be so confused o.o
Melethasgar dude... cheating in a GAME show where you're SUPPOSED to have fun. it's really not that deep lmao
ㄓ gosh the line of the script of this show was for fun and he tried to be fun because that’s what the theme was and cheating is what they do and Jeonghan already cheated in a cut part of this show at a diff episode and everyone thought it was cute and funny and this wasnet as bad but coups was being to harsh and yelling DONT HIDE THE MONEY even tho he didn’t and hoshi who was supposed to be the boonekwi sallyer got mad because of that not because he got called out maybe if he just got called out funnily that might’ve been okay but they were too harsh and he was the only one who apologized
그냥 서로 예능이니까 재밌게 가고 싶어서 상황을 극한으로 몰고 가려다 보니 감정이 격해져서 이런 헤프닝이 벌어진듯. 내가 봤을 땐 정말 친구 사이끼리 언제든지 벌어질 수 있는 상황임 누구의 잘잘못을 따질 필요 없음. 그리고 애초에 형팀이 현실에서도 저렇게 공격적인 성격있다면 호시가 저 성황에서 화내지도 않았을 거임. 그냥 호시도 원래 안그로던 형들이 왜그러지? 하는 당황감 때문에 더 서운한 마음이 든 듯.
당연히 여러명이 나만 몰아가는데 억울하고 서운하지....그래도 형 팀에서 먼저 잘 풀자고 손 내밀어서 해결잘된게 너무 멋졌다 오빠들 서로만 믿고가자
그냥 형팀은 동생팀이 첨엔 일부로 장난칠려고 숨긴거라고 생각해서 재밌게 뽑을려 그랬는데 동생팀이 안주니깐 슬슬 열받은 듯. 그리고 호시빼고는 다 완전 동생이니 호시한테만 계속 말한거같고. 근데 호시입장에선 진짠데 계속 몰아붙이니깐 화가난거같고. 형팀은 동생들 애기를 제대로 믿으려하지않았다는 것, 호시는 방송에서 욱했다는게 잘못한거같지만 누구 한팀보고 뭐라할껀 아닌거같네요.
우선 동생팀에서 호시가 맏형이니까 욱해준거 같음. 동생들이 형들한테는 화를 잘 못내니까.. 어쨌든 자기팀 동생들한테 장난으로 라도 계속 몰아붙이니까 속상했는듯ㅠ
몇 십년 본 가족이랑도 싸우고 심한 경우 손절하는 경우도 있는데 13명이 아무리 친하다 해도 당연히 싸울 수 있죠. 참다가 나중에 확 터지는 것보다 그때그때 표현하고 잘 푸는 게 더 오래갈 수 있는 것 같아요. 연습생때부터 지금까지 불화설, 왕따설 이런 거 없이 13명이 다 친할 수 있는 건 싸우기도 많이 싸우고 또 잘 화해했기때문 아닐까요:-)
전 개인적으로 비지니스 관계로 서로를 대하는 것보다 이렇게 싸우는 모습 보는 게 더 친해보여서 ㅋㅋㅋ 다른 영상보면 서로 잘못한 거 인정하고 잘 푸는 모습보여주는데 넘 예쁘네요❣
Don't be disappointed in scoups and hoshi this is just normal, and if you watched the whole ep, the next day they were taking a picture and scoups and hoshi were next to each other while scoups had his arm around Hoshi. so off cam they probably talked it out more and both apologized to each other
This made me feel better
I just wanna hug hoshi and dongsaeng team everytime I rewatch this scene:(
두 팀 다 이해된다… 그리고 권수녕ㅇ 저러고 나서도 철없었던 자기가 부끄럽다면서… 사과하는데… 너무 귀엽고… 자꾸 더 좋아지려고 함 ㅠ
애들끼리 얘기하는 영상보면 다른애들도 화가 났는데 참고있다 이런얘기 오갈때 자막에 호시에 모습에 실망한 멤버들인가? 이런식으로 되있는데 호시에 모습에 실망했다기 보다 카메라앞에서 자신들이 이렇게 비춰지는거의 대해서 화난거 같고 솔직히 말하면 이제와서 잘잘못 따질건 없지만 물론 호시도 저정도로 기분상한걸 표현해내는게 안좋게 비춰질 수 있지만 저게 맞다고 보고 쿱스가 초반에 재밌게 가려던게 분위기가 잘못잡혀서 막나간다는 말은 조금 잘못됬었던거라고 봄 그 말은 싸움으로 밖에 될 수 없었던거 같음 호시입장에선 멤버의 반이 자기한테 그러는데 당연히 서운하고 답답할 수 밖에 없었고 리얼리티 그 자체를 보여줘서 더 좋은거같다
this time, hoshi's literally on fire, "kwon-fire" indeed.
다른 것보다 카메라가 있는데도 감정을 피하지 않고 또 그걸 푸는게 진짜 좋다,,, 세븐틴이 단단한 그룹인게 눈에 잘보임 캐럿들 맘 놓고 덕질 할 수 있게해줘서 고마우 🥹🫶
죤나웃기네 ㅋㅋ
충분히 호시 맘이 이해가 되는 게
여러 명이 나한테 그러면
무안하기도 하고 속상하고 이개 이렇게
뭐라 할 일인가? 생각이 들면서 화나고
그래서 그런 것 같아요
형 팀이 잘못했다는 게 아니고
형 팀도 재미있게 해보려고 하다가 의욕이 생기다 보니
그런 거고 오빠들 모여서 대화하고 서로 사과하고 풀었으니까
혹시라도 유튜브 알고리즘으로 인해 보시가 돼 시면 오해하지 마시고 아~ 이런 일도 있었구나
하고봐주시면 좋겠네요
썸네일만 보고 몰카라고 생각했던 나 반성해...
캣츠 저도 이거 방송으로 봤을 당시엔 몰카라고 생각했는데 몰카치고는 너무 진지하고 그래서 실제구나 했어요 ㅎㅎ
자세한 설명 감사합니다
저도 유튜브에서 부분만 보고 엇..왜저러지 싶어서 풀영상 찾아봤는데 충분히 이해되는 상황이더라구요 이른 판단 하지맙시단❤
It's just like a bunch of friends who're trying to joke around, and the joke replied with another joke but things get tensed.
I believe they faced it a lot in daily life. I'm so proud how they realise there's a problem and managed to solve the problem together. This mature kid, hope you guys doing fine.
그와중에 박력있는 호시의
모습에 또한번 반해버렸습니다 ,,
나만 그런게 아니엿슈ㅓ,.... 걱정되는 마음 + 설렘(?)..
다 사람인데 싸울 수도 있는거고 그후에 대화하면서 잘 푸는게 더 중요하다고 생각하고 이후에 다같이 얘기하면서 잘 푼게 너무 다들 이쁨
The hyung team had the carat bong that allowed them to 'switch pocket/game money' (the one they received from the Japanese grandpa). At first, Vernon and Hoshi attempted to steal the hyung's carrier to take that carat bong (presumably to stop them from switching their game money) but turned out the carat bong wasn't in their carrier. I guess this must have pissed off the hyung team a little + made them more sensitive.
Then Hoshi decided that if they couldn't get the carat bong, they should "spend" all the money and not let the hyung team get it, so he paid Mingyu to kiss him + DK to sing etc. and only left 51 yen or something in his pocket. He expected the hyungs to laugh when he told them this, but the hyungs reacted badly and demanded legit receipts etc. because it's only valid if they actually spent the money (like the hyung team did before they arrived at the accommodation) and Hoshi got pissed off instead haha. Hope this helped!
yes! thank you!
Rania Putri Thank you so much! 😚
Rania Putri even tho you explained it I'm still somewhat confused 🤷♀️
Stephanie grant There's eng sub from loyal carrot channel
Rania Putri they wanted to steal the carat bong because Hoshi knew that Hyung team planned to spend all their money and then exchange with Dongsaeng team and let them nothing... At the end Joshua was the one who put the CaratBong in his backpack so that's why the only thing that Dongsaeng team could do to avoid getting robbed was spending that way... But well Hyng team was competitive and didn't want to accept that... so Hoshi got angry
i read the comments before watching and i seriously was so scared to watch the video and oMG ITS SO SCARY TO SEE HOSHI MAD LIKE WE ALWAYS SAW HIM AS A HAPPY SUNSHINE, IVE NEVER SEEN THIS SIDE OF HIM BEFORE AND WHEN HE SLAMMED THE DRAW THING CLOSE, I WAS SCARED SHITLESS OMG.
THATS LITERALLY ME RN I AM LIKE NOT EVEN IN THAT PART YET IM SCARED
When the scene got serious you can see Seungkwan’s face his smile faded away
호시는 궁지에 몰린 기분 들어서 좀 울컥하고 그랬겠네... 여러명이서 자기한테 막 거칠게 달려드니까...
호시 ㅜㅜ 아너무 속상하다 내가 호시였음 진짜 뒤집어엎었을 듯 그러고 인성논란으로 탈퇴 너무 호시를 몰아가서 아직도 어멋날 보기가 힘들다 걍 여기서 알 수 있는건 호시 존나 멋지고 착하다 그릇이 크다
최근에 정주행 하는데 여기부터 진짜 너무 맘아파서 호시한테 과몰입해서 형팀 너무 밉고 ( 최차애 정한쿱스인 캐럿임 ) 그래서 보기 힘들었어요...... 저 뒤에 다음날에도 너무 호시 기죽어 있는 거 같고 .. 결국 다시 텐션 업 잘 살아났지만..
호시마음이 존나 이해간다,, 내가 호시였다면 저상황에서 울었을듯
완전 공감!!
진짜 지금 본 내가 좀 그런데 암튼 이랬던 시절이 있으니까 지금의 이렇게 멋진 세븐틴이 된게 아닐까.. 하고 생각을 했는데 너무 늦게 본건가 싶기도 하고;;
Idk about others, but this episode made me fall for hoshi. I literally changed my bias to hoshi after watching this. He is so attractive here
i got scared when hoshi mad.. really~
Your pfp KAHDHAHHABS
I cried watching this eps because I felt like I could understand Hoshi frustration and anger and I never wanna re-watch this scene ever again because I don't want to hold a grudge on any members 😭💕
여럿이서 몰아가는데 나같아도 저렇게 말할듯.. 순영아 나도 이해돼 ㅠㅠ
Hoshi 😢
*When his mad, then he will show it even though theres camera.
*when he's not embarrased to do something, then he will not pretend to get embarrased.
*when he's not scared, then he will not pretend to be scared.
***Hoshi is someone that will do anything/everything what his heart wanted to....
진짜 저런상황에 속상하고 화날수 밖에 없었는데 잘 풀어서 다행이다,,,,
What makes me sad is no one from the dongsaeng line helped Soonyoung when the hyung line was all upon Soonyoung forcing him to give the money. The Korean culture of youngers respecting the elders despite the situation and can't being able to talk back is sometimes not very good
That's true and I don't think none of the dongsaeng team is intimidating type. Honestly, I think the team leader (sc, woozi, hoshi ) and Jeonghan are that type and sometimes I see Seungkwan like that too, but maybe because he's the youngest member, and he's cute so not really obvious. Naturally, in my opinion the Dongsaeng team chose to be silent, especially when they were in front of the camera, because their character and position were also the youngest members. if I was in the position of Hoshi I might act like him, but on the other hand I understand why the hyung team is like that, obviously they just want to make the situation exciting, but what happened Hoshi who was unable to tolerate this and got angry. I was still impressed 95's line didn't get angry and ended up choosing to talk about this even though they were actually angry with Hoshi's attitude. I feel sorry for the members of the Dongsaeng team who don't know what to do.
@@blackneko9401 I mean you're not wrong! They are idols and are supposed to be keeping their image clean, but still I'd wish if atleast one or two of the younger members would have spoken up! I liked how Jeonghan took the initiative to settle this!
Btw it's all in the past, they all get together so well, that's what matters hehehe !
that is one of the attitudes that exist in Asia, especially east Asia
Have you seen DK's face? He looks serious.. he even said "amazing. They really spent all 27000"...
Though im waiting for other dongsaengs to counter their hyungs.. sadly it didnt happen
대표해서 순영이 나서서 말하구 왜케 멋있어,,,솔직히 상황만 봐선 순영인 잘못도 없는데ㅠ 그와중에 찬이 눈치보구 수습하는거 왜케 귀여워 ..😢
seungkwan looks so scared to be in the Hyung team now
He really thought that hyung team has a new side of them, well not saying it's bad but
@@fullsun635 im sure he has seen every member mad way before this lol
사실... 세봉이들 기가 세다고 해야하나 은근 압도하는 그런 게 있어서 이렇게 쪼끔 다투는 것두 심각해보이고 그럼ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그래도 잘 풀었고 카메라 앞에서 이런 모습 보일 정도로 솔직한 애들이라 좋다는 생각이 되게 많이 듬
+오잉 언제 100개가 넘었지
근데 기가 세지 않을 수가 없을 듯.
그 혹독한 플디 군기를 견뎌냈는데..
@@yj4383 그니깐요ㅜㅜ
I really enjoy this part to be honest. Apart from all the comments about their harsh conversations, I’d like to remind something that:
1. At the beginning, hyungs team was already very competitive, even within their team, which i guess contributed to their harsh conversations, while dongsaengs team was more chilled and peaceful
2. It was a relief to see that hoshi tried to defense their team, even though he used to be in the hyungs team, and spoke the truth that ‘we just want some fun, why are you guys dead serious and scary’ i think that’s a bold statement to hyungs while all the cameras were there filming
3. Although he showed his anger and he had his points tbh, he apologise loudly in front of everyone. That makes me so warm cuz it is not an easy thing to do - to admit your mistake.
Salute to my lovely hamster and tiger 🐯
I also think that HOSHI IS A GREAT MAN...A TRUE example of What a man should be...i love him so much..what a great human. Being he is
I MEAN IT'S NOT even his mistake. He didn't make any mistake. That's what made me so angry for this moment. He apologized when he pointed out the hyungs' seriousness and hypocrisy. It's great he said sorry but the hyungs didn't even bother to say sorry when they created such an atmosphere. But anyways it's in the past😂😂
이 에피소드에서 호시 너무 안쓰러워서 혼자 주절주절 적어보는 글...
애초에 형팀은 자신들이 가진 돈을 몽땅 흥청망청 다 사용하고 동생팀 돈과 교환할 계획만 세움. 반면 동생팀은 형팀이 가진 돈 몽땅 쓰고 교환하자고 할 것을 미리 예상하고, 한수 더가서 자신들의 돈도 지혜로운 방법으로 다 사용할 계획을 세움. 결과적으로 형팀 계획은 예상에서 빗나갔고 동생팀 계획은 예상에 맞았으니 동생팀이 계획에 성공한게 맞고 동생들 돈은 형들이 뺏어갈게 아니라 동생들이 그대로 가지고있는게 맞다고 본다.
만약 동생팀이 형팀의 계획을 미리 예상하지 못했고, 형들이 돈을 교환하자고 하는 그 순간에 갑작스럽게 말을 바꿔서 돈을 안바꾸겠다고 우기는 상황이였더라면 형팀의 주장처럼 '돈을 숨긴것', '서로의 돈을 교환해야하는 찬스를 거부한 것'이 맞다. 하지만 동생팀은 형팀의 계획을 미리 예상해서 호시가 민규에게 뽀뽀를 구매하거나 도겸에게 노래를 구매하는 과정을 구체적으로 설정하고 예능에 맞게 재미있는 상황까지 만들려 노력한 모습을 영상 증거로 까지 남겨둔 상태라서 제작진이나 시청자 누가봐도 '돈을 사용한것'이 맞았다. 그리고 형들이 돈을 교환하자고 했을때 호시는 미리 계획했던대로 바로 돈이 든 주머니를 건내며 그렇게하겠다고 말하며 서로의 돈을 교환해야하는 찬스를 거부하지도 않았다. 논리적으로 따져봤을때 이 상황에서는 분명 제작진이 동생팀의 편을 들어주는 게 맞았다고 생각된다.
형팀은 동생팀 상황이나 설명을 자세히 들어보거나 제대로 인정하려하지도 않고 공격적인 말투로 이건안된다 저건안된다 강하게 부정하고, 애초에 없었던 영수증과 관련된 내용을 마음대로 지어내서까지 너무 강압적으로 억지부리고 몰아부치는 모습이 보기 불편했다. 형들이 다같이 그렇게 몰아부치니 다른 어린 동생들은 눈치만 보며 말대꾸 해보지도 못하고, 그나마 호시가 동생팀에서 제일 형이라 대응해보려고 시도했는데 형들 말투나 태도가 너무 공격적이라 거기에 이미 감정이 상했고 호시도 괜히 싸우거나 일을 키우기 싫어서 말대꾸 않고 그냥 돈 넘겨주라고 한게 뻔히 보인다. 솔직히 동생팀 입장에서 충분히 억울한 상황에 형팀의 공격적인 말투나 태도 때문에 호시 충분히 짜증낼만함.
여기서 가장 중요한 포인트는 사실 호시는 '돈이 뺏겨서' 짜증이 난게 아니라 '형들의 공격적인 말투와 이기적인 태도'때문에 감정이 상해서 짜증이 났다고 봄. 여기서 만약 형팀이 눈치껏 상황보고 '어? 호시가 기분이 상한 것 같은데... 장난으로 하려고 했는데 우리가 말이 너무 심했나? 의도한게 아니지만 기분이 상했다면 미안하다.' 라고 말했으면 호시도 마음 상한거 풀리고 조금 억울하지만 그래도 예능이니까하며 기쁜마음으로 돈 순순히 넘겨줬을 듯. 근데 형들이 호시가 기분 상했던 말던 상관안하고 마지막까지 낄낄 웃으면서 동생팀 돈을 기여코 뺏어가버린게 이해가 안되고 세상섭섭. 게다가 형팀 멤버들이 '나도 화날뻔 했는데 촬영 중이라 참은거다, 호시가 방송중인데 화난거 티낸거 잘못이다.'라는 늬앙스로 말한 것도 들으니 속상했고, 사실은 호시가 사과나 위로를 받아야 하는 상황인데 13명중에 아무도 그걸 몰라주는게 더 답답했다. 결국 다같이 화해 시간 가지고 좋게 풀어서 다행이지만, 마지막에 호시가 '그렇게 행동해서 멤버들한테 미안하고, 자기자신에게 부끄럽다'고 말하며 자기반성하는 것보고 두번 맴찢 두번 속상... 후... 이번 편은 진짜 몇번을 다시봐도 뜻밖의 호시 대인배 에피소드
와 진짜 설명 잘 해주신 것 같아요
동생팀에서도 형팀이 그렇게 할 것이라는 걸 알고 호시도 역으로 계획을 세운건데 형팀이 분위기를 너무 어둡게 만든 건 맞음...
그때 형팀이 웃으면서 와 이렇게 당하다니 라는 뉘앙스로 허탈하게 웃으면서 하면 동생팀도 웃으면서 끝났을 것 같은데
영수증 있어야 한다, 그런 게 어딨냐 하면서 형팀이 너무 호시한테 강하게 말하는 모습이 조금 그랬음 ㅠㅠㅠ
호시가 화난 상태에서 웃으면서 돈 갖고 나간 모습도 그렇고 형팀끼리 있을 때 자기도 화 날 뻔했다 하고,,
형팀이 나서서 오해 풀려고 얘기하는 시간을 바로 만든 건 좋았지만 그 시간에서도 호시만 나빴던 것처럼 형팀이 말하니까 뭐지 싶었음 ...
뭐 방송에 나온 모습이 다인지는 모르겠지만 편집 된 영상에라도 형팀이 자기들이 그렇게 몰아 가려 해서 미안했다 이런 말 했기를 바람 ㅠㅠ
고잉세븐틴 보고 세븐틴에 호감 가져서 옛 영상들 찾아보고 하는 도중 어느 멋진 날을 보게 되었는데 이 장면때문에 호시한테 더 호감 갔다
자기가 방송 중 화내서 미안하고 가족들이랑 친구들이 이 영상 볼텐데 넘 쑥쓰럽다고 다 자기 잘못인 것 마냥 말하니까 안쓰러우면서도 착한 게 넘 느껴져서 ㅠㅠ
호시도 세븐틴도 더 잘 되길 !
공감..너무 맞는 말인데 좋아요 수가 왜 적지
@@gpd.u.s 공감해요! 이번 에피소드에서 형팀의 격한 말투와 태도가 햄찌분노사건의 원인이었다가 팩트! 그래도 형아들이 원래 승부욕이 강한 성격 + 예능형 꼼수대마왕들이라 동생팀을 오해할 수도있겠구나하고 상황이 이해는 되고, 형팀이 호시에게 실수는 했지만 나쁜 의도는 전혀 없었다고 보여요 :)
다만, 저도 이번 에피소드통해서 호시를 다시 보게되었어요! 충분히 속상하고 섭섭할 수 있는 상황이었는데도 화해시간 가질때 누군가의 잘잘못을 따지기 보다는 자신을 낮춰서 먼저 사과할 줄아는 자세가 참 멋지고 대단하다고 느꼈어요. '이런 자리 마련해줘서 고마웡~' '내가 미안해' '가족들 친구들 볼텐데 쑥스럽네요 아이참~' 라고 곧바로 사과하고 반성하는 모습도 정말 인상깊었어요. 자신의 자존심보다는 팀의 평안을 먼저 생각하는 그런 유연한 리더의 자세랄까. 호시 넘나 착한 순둥이 뽀시래기 호감상인것...! 😚💛
참고로 이 편 이후부터 원우랑 아바타 게임으로 화해하기 전까지 그 사이의 영상들에서 호시 살펴보는 것도 의외의 관전잼이 있습니다! 화해는 했지만 아직 약간 서먹서먹한 기분이 있는지 호시 거의 가장자리를 맴돌며 조용히 있는게 개인적으로 호시 내향형 인간인거 티나는 모먼트라고 생각해서 귀여워요ㅎㅎㅎ 게임 이후에는 목소리도 다시 커지고 깨방정 떨며 씩씩해집니당
@@RINA-qj3wj 맞아요 맞아요 ! 호시 넘 귀여워요 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ❤
For me, of all the 13 members, Soonyoung is the scariest when mad because no one will ever expect a happy hamster to turn into mad tiger in the middle of a fun show.
Even the maknae line got worried coz they knew how scary their Soonyoung hyung is.
Mingyu & Seungkwan admitted that Hoshi is the scariest.
@@dhiaaprena521 when did this happen
사람이니까 싸우는게 당연하지 그래도 저렇게 하고 잘 끝내서 다행이다
세븐틴이 함께 생활한 기간이 얼만데 투닥투닥거리고 싸우고 그럴 수도 있죠! 그리고 뒤에서는 또 잘 풀었어요!
솔직하게 형님팀 보단 호시의 마음에 더 이해가 가네
이건 볼 때마다 심장이 떨려... 아니 당연한 건 아는데 되게 심장떨리구 막 그랭
for the members who are trying to smile and lighten up the mood...this is not scripted...i swear if without camera they will really explode [but we all know even if they'll explode they can fix it] this is a situation which they didn't expect that they'll go on the limit...
Although I lowkey get goosebumps watching this, it's nice that they didn't cut this scene out/sugarcoat anything since it's expected that there would be some arguments with a group with thirteen members. It just shows how much stronger they are as a group.
내 최애는 형팀에 있지만 호시가 너무 이해간다 ㅠㅠ 에고.. 한 명한테 저렇게 몰아세우는 분위기 되면 무안하고 이게 뭐라고 이렇게까지 해야하나..? 하는 마음에 서운하고 울컥했을듯
뭐 근데 결국 싸우고 난 뒤에 모니터링이든 다시 곱씹어보든 해서 잘못한거, 부끄러운거 제일 잘 아는건 본인일거에요. 화해하는 영상도 바로 싸우고 난 직후라서 본인들의 행동이나 말투를 되돌아보기엔 짧은 시간이었기도 하고 오래가고 분위기 좋은 팀인 이유가 뭐겠어요. 서로 서운한거 없이 다시 잘 풀었을거에요. 이 게임이 뭐라고 승부욕이 뭐라고 이렇게까지 과열됐을까 하는 마음이 다 들었을거에요. 형팀도요.
개인적으로 저도 저 때 대처가 잘못되지 않았나 푸는과정이 너무 한쪽에 치우치지않았나 싶었거든요. 근데 결국 본인이 잘못한건 본인이 제일 잘 알고 다들 이후에 다시 풀고 했을걸 생각하니 성장하는 과정이겠구나 다음에 이런일들이 생기지않게 또는 생기더라도 지혜롭게 현명하게 잘 해결해나가겠구나 하는 확신이 들더라구요
I think what triggers Hoshi to explode was when Seungcheol choose him in exchange to Seungkwan for their team. He was still accepting the reality that he will never win over Wonwoo then another circumstances came about the caratbong. Hoshi was pressured because he became the leader for the maknae team and he knew about the next move of the hyung team. Even though he made a plan when the hyung team arrived they pressed him hard that cause him to being annoyed. The hyungs keep talking in unison that triggered him to burst his anger. Hoshi is a bright type of person but do not dare pissed him off. I enjoyed watching this show for couple of times now but in this part of the episode, i also felt what Hoshi felt and we cannot blame him because the hyung team cause him to get mad. Anyway, i just love the part when they talk all together and talk about what just happened right away. In friendship, if you don't argue with each other then your bond isn't strong enough. Seventeen just showed us how strong their bond is and how comfortable they are with each other that they can freely express what they feel in the situation they are making. No worries carats, having arguments with your friends is normal and at the same time fun coz u can used it to teased them later on hahahha
Honestly i kind of liked (?) it to see that they showed him being frustrated. Maybe i didnt word it right but i mean they usually don't show those sides. And Hoshis frustration is totally understandable, i'd be frustrated too.
Beside his angry, i'm very touched and soft how hoshi's deal or treat his young brother, like he will sacrifice his life just to protect his lovely dongsaeng🥺
idk why but hoshi make me love him even more>
i got scared a bit when hoshi slammed that chair
오히려 이많은 사람들이 한번도 싸운적이 없다는게 더 말이안돼고 비지니스 인거임
당사자 끼리 잘 불어서 다향이지만 제3자 입장에서 봤을때는 호시가 억울할만 했음..근데 편집이 호시가 잘못햤고 다른 멤버들은 호시가 왜저러는지 이해 못하겠다는 식으로 나와서 좀 속상하고 기분 나빴움...ㅋㅋ
나 같아도 개빡치겠네ㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄲㅋ 뭐 아이돌이 조금 더 착할뿐이지 부처도 아니고 사람인데 저렇게 말도 안믿어주고 자꾸 몰아가면 빡치지ㅋㄲㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱ 아이고 차라리 화 낸게 더 인간미 있고 좋다 난ㅋㅋㅋ
I suddenly remembered how one of the members chose the "loud" Hoshi over a "silent" one. Cause he's really scary in here. But I still commend how they were able to fix the situation by talking things out. It just shows SVTs bond and teamwork is that good. Having 13 people in the same room and living with them for years, is really is not that easy. But since its SVT themselves it looks easy and fine. BTW, I really miss their 2 OFD. Season 3 when? huehue
Horanghae Hoshi-ah! Seranghae SEVENTEEN!!!
I guess that it will be hard at this point have season 3 😢, since One Fine day is from MBC and now that SVT’s company is a subsidiary of HYBE *(a company that doesn’t have good relations with MBC),* maybe will never have a One Fine Day of SVT again… 😭😢💔
서로 재밌게 할려고 숨기고한거같은데 형팀애들이 조금 강하게 밀어 붙여서 호시 상황에선 그냥 줘보자 해서 주는데 또 거기서 애들이 말하는 바람에 호시 입장에선 당연히 화나고 그렇지 ... 그런데 또 누가 잘못이다 할 수 있는것도 아니고.. 뭐 그래도 잘 해결되서 정말 다행...
To be honest, if I were in Hoshi's position I would also do the same thing, after all, the maknae team's initial intention was to make an interesting, funny storyline that could make you laugh.look when hoshi buys mingyu's kiss and dk's singing looks very fun and funny that's not what the maknae of the team expected to do something interesting and funny, But as soon as the hyung team came like hoshi and the Maknae team said the atmosphere immediately changed, we can also see how depressed the Maknae team is plus the team hyung doesn't want to give up and constantly asking for money from the maknae team, that's where Hoshi's emotions really peaked and he gave all the money feeling annoyed, angry and disappointed. It's a bit too much if Hoshi is called emotional or can't control his emotions in front of the camera. ️🙂
호시랑 동생팀 딴에는 재밌게 하려고 했는데 형팀이 저렇게 나와서 마음이 상한 것 같음.. 호시도 게임승패를 떠나서 동생들 주눅들게 해서 더 화가 난듯
Everytime I watch this, I always get reminded that this is the other side of Hosh that we rarely see on cam. If I'm not mistaken, it was Mingyu who said that Hosh is a bit of a hot-headed and moody. It's a Gemini thing, I guess, to feel all sorts of extremes and I'm pretty sure Hosh here was "judged wrongly" so he felt the need to slam that chair to release his anger instead of blurting out hurtful words.
어멋날 이 편은 진짜 보기가 힘듦 ..
호시 입장에서 보면 너무 화날 상황이라 그런가
호시만 사과하고 찝찝하게 마무리 된 느낌,,
제작진이 판을 잘못 짠 게 문제인듯 ㅜㅜ
어헝..ㅠㅠ 내 말이요... 난 이 영상보다 사과하는 영상이 더 싫어요ㅠㅠ 결국 호시 혼자 사과하고 잘못한걸로 끝....
나도 이제서야 보는데 호시만 사과한게 찝찝하네요 둘다 이런건 내가 미안했다 하고 마무리 했음 좋았을텐데
I got real scared when I watch the live broadcast
kworldtan yes me too 😂
Tiara Cimura where i can see it
where can i see it?
Kimi Reyes search Like17Subs here on yt
Dawon's height thank you fam
honestly I felt so bad watching this, Hyung team acted so selfish that they actually forced Hoshi to give them the money. I don't want to imagine what will happened if younger team actually spended all the money. I know that younger team joke wasn't the best and funnier. Also the hyung team spended their money just for not having nothing to give the younger team and honestly thats too bad, scoups smile at the end makes me angry and I can tell that I can understand why hoshi's behaviour was like that.
i saw it more as they had no choice, going to a store was not included in the dongsaeng team plans, by the time they arrive at their base camp, they wouldn't be able to spend their money. hoshi, being the oldest in the dongsaeng team felt pressured to protect them/their money too. i am more disappointed with the hyung team who can't just give up that they got played. ofc, hoshi's reaction at the end part was also immature.
Hyung team is just making jokes, but Hoshi got mad, he admitted it that immature actions. If I am in Hyung team, I'll be mad too, bcoz hyung team didn't mean that.. They are just making jokes that time.
Hoshi got easily mad bcoz he thinks that their hyung team is bullying them, that's why.
I'm in the middle, I understand both
@@이워도 same with me
It was an incident that can happen when a bunch of people live together. People, even if they're almost like family, still fight here and there. What's important is that they're still close friends so there's no need for us to point fingers here.
@@aimi_rly6752 hoshi's reaction is understandable, its not immature. How would you react when you were in his shoes. The hyung team take his joke too seriously and confronted him, and in the end they indirectly blamed everything to hoshi. Hoshi was the only one who say sorry, the hyungs don't even feel sorry for making hoshi upset.
상황이 좀 심각해보이지만 하나도 안 심각한데ㅌㅋㅋㅋㅋ 다들 싸우고 지내면서 뭐 저런 소소한걸로 꼬투리 잡고 그러세요ㅋㅌㅋ 다들 화날때 일부로 물건 던지듯이 정리하잖아?
Seungkwan who always play around Hoshi is actually scared of him.
호시 진짜 너무 착하고 똑똑하고 현명하고 멋있다 ,, ㅠㅠ
Is it just me or Hoshi is adorable even when he's angry ㅋㅋㅋ Look at those pouty lips and fluffy cheeks 😍
wtf kkkkk
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So from what I interpret, the hyung team wanted the money in the pouch which Hoshi took out previously and 'spend' the amount of money. I think the carat bong had something to do with it. They hyung team wanted the receipts as proof that he spend the money as S.Coups was sure that he hid the money. Turns out, Hoshi used to money for things like making DK sing as seen in the video and he say he made Mingyu kiss him 3 times and pay him too which I'm not sure if it's true or not. The other members looked flustered as they did not know that they hyung were that serious. Even Seungkwan who was in the hyung team at this time. DK then asked what's with the situation which Jeonghan said that nothing's wrong and Hoshi said that they just wanted to see the receipts that showed the money spent. The hyungs just kept pestering for the reciepts until Hoshi burst at 3:32 and said " We are just having fun but why are (you guys) making the atmosphere like this, I'm scared to death." (sth like this) And I think he was being sarcastic. Then he threw the pouch on the table and said that he will give them the money and that was when DK took the money out of the bag and Dino clapped once and said "Ok. Let's give it them".
I think that the hyung team have the chance to exchange money with them. At 4:02 DK said the amount of money the dongseong team was left with, which I think was spent by the hyungs. I think they were left with not a lot of money and the hyung spent almost everything, I think it was 27000won if I heard correctly. at 4:06 Hoshi said just forget about it and shoved that cushion under the table in frustration.
This is just what I interpreted, I'm not that good in Korean so I might be wrong.
At least thank you.
you're welcome😁. After watching otber videos I realised that Hoshi knew bout the advantage the hyung team had cux vernon stole their carrier, but since he can't steal the carat bong he tried to spend his money so that the hyung will be left with no money when they used their advantage. But it backfired
It makes me feel so EXCITED for the eng sub of ep 6!!! LIke aaarrrrggghh!!! INTENSE!!! Just a minute ago, as I watch the other clips of ep 6 (exchange member scene) was so hilarious and then I came here and saw this one. AARRGGHH!!!! I think I'll be having a mixed emotion for this ep. and I LOVE IT!!! hahaha LOL coz I am confident that they are okay with each other already so the most interesting for me now is how they reconcile after this.
One of the short clips showed how they reconcile. sry if i'm spoiling this for u
Oh yeah, I just saw that clip already. It makes me adore them more. I know that misunderstanding within a group is inevitable but the way they handle and resolve it really makes me respect them seriously. It's not easy to be in a group of 13 young boys having different personalities. Even the other boy bands having only 4-6 members was disbanded before coz of conflicts and misunderstanding so imagine how much the pressure it is, in seventeen, but they prove to people that even they have mood swings every once in a while, they can resolve it. Their bond is really not a joke. This is definitely the result of being together (living together) for many years now. I'm so impressed and proud of them.
okay! lemme try and translate this in the most summarized way(not accurate);
hoshi: I will buy dk singing
*soonseok talk talk talk~*
*hyung team.. well, mixed team arrives*
coups: captain..... I'll go first
jisoo: okay
seungkwan: our captain is so kind
*door locked*
coups: open the door
*small arguments*
dk: why?
*the hyung-- mixed team enters*
jeonghan: we have to do a mission
hoshi(?): wait, why is this so scary?
jeonghan: what's your mission?
dk: we don't have a mission
jeonghan: because you guys went to the sea(?)
*hoshi and jeonghan points at each other*
*wonwoo shows the "mission" which I can't read*
hoshi: go and have it(?)
coups: stop kidding around
jeonghan: is it finished? where did you spend it?
*coups checks*
coups: he really spent it all
(??????)
seungkwan: where? (where did he spend it)
woozi: where? where did you spend it?
hoshi: mingyu's kiss was about ¥???
*jeonghan's "huh"*
*opposing team eiiiii*
hoshi: I bought it you know!!
coups: _((did this boy use satoori??))_ the leader is such a joke(?)
hoshi: can't I do that?(?) _((sorry, I'm not that sure))_
jeonghan: I dont think so....
*they start arguing and saying they need to have the receipt*
*they feel the tension*
*seungkwan's short interview explaining the tension*
(??????)
hoshi: we're trying to make it fun, why are you making it so serious??? you're bring really scary right now... fine we'll give you(x2).... give it give it(keeps repeating it)
Chan: *trying to lighten up the mood*
*_shows woozi cause soonhoon knows each other ((lol sorry, not seriously about this part)) then worried meanie ((sorry, still not serious about this part))_*
the8: that's it that's it
Chan: it's just a game, it's just a game
coups: is this really all?
hoshi: yes that's all... go go go....
*some of them leaves*
hoshi: ahhhh this is so annoying *slams the chair*
seungkwan: *is more worried after what hoshi did*
oh thank you so much for the translation!
DK Sebongie ahh, it's quite inaccurate but hopefully you can understand a little till someone does translate it
thank you for the translation !! & i love how u added soonhoon + meanie HAHA
leekwon parkmin your welcome but it's quite inaccurate and I missed some things to translate.
and yes, I've been lacking my ships so I had to add them 😂😂😅
Resumindo os Hyungs pistolaram pq supostamente o Hoshi gastou o money 😔 ✌️ thx bro
호시 서운한게 여기까지 느껴지네..
다시보니까 형들 사이에 껴버린 동생팀이 말못하고 쭈굴대는게 너구리같아서 귀여움..(?) 버노니 어디가찌
Just watch this now and I really wanted to appreciate Hoshi. He is usually fearless, but in that situation he must have felt so cornered and at lost (thus he said the atmosphere was scary) and his reaction was just him being defensive, not because he was mad or annoyed. I understand the hyung team too since it's a game it's normal to be competitive. They just had different idea of making the show fun at that time and it was fine. Shua suggesting them to talk things out, HaniCoups leading the talk, all other members trying to lessen the tension and Hoshi apologizing tho he wasn't really at fault show that they genuinely put their group before their own ego. I really want to give Hoshi a tight hug when he kept apologizing and felt embarrassed for showing this side of him in front of camera. Like seriously, he shouldn't be. If anything, I'd say he had just shown how mature and wise he could be at such a young age, he should be around 21 or 22 at that time. Horanghae 🐯
seungkwan literally wanted the earth to open up beneath him-
The hyung get serious in this game. I feel bad for hoshi. He even said that he's scared when the hyung confronted him that's why he surrender the money. I'm disappointed with the hyungs in here but at least, when things like this happened they talk and fixed it.
형팀은 형팀대로 동생팀은 동생팀대로 속상하고 욱할 상황이였는데 늘 느끼는거지만 싸우더라도 카메라 앞에서의 형식적인 사과가 아니라 많이 해왔어서 자연스러워진 세븐틴만의 화해를 하는것같아서 너무 다행인것같아... 앞으로 싸우더라도 이날처럼 잘 풀거같아서, 더 돈독해질거같아서 안심되고 좋다😊
No hoshi you are not immature, you literally matured enough to say sorry after all this thing. Those who is immature is me! Who still feel salty and bad for dongsang team even this is not my first time watching it after a few years.🙂
And Hyung team is not cruel. The competitive spirit boiling inside them make the situation look bad.
근본적으론 제작진이 너무 대결구도로 판짠게 문제 아닐까 생각.. 걍 다르게 여행하고 좋은 찬스 쓸수 있는걸로 했음 좋았을텐데...재미를 위해서 천국행 지옥행 나누고 저런 찬스권 만들어 주니 써야지 어째;; 나같아도 많이 다쓰고 바꾸겠다 ㅋㅋㅋ
승질낸건 호시가 잘못한건 맞지만 뒤에가서 잘못했다고 잘못도 인정하고 사과도했으니 됐지 동생팀 대장하면서 잘하고 싶었던 마음에 그랬을거임ㅠ 둘다 이해감
난 두팀 다 너무 이해가 된다ㅜㅜ 물론 호시 입장에서는 장난쳤는데 너무 공격적으로 반응하고 몰아세우니까 서운함이 터져버린거고 형들 입장에서는 승관이가 말한거처럼 카메라 앞에 있고 상황을 찍고 있는 걸 알면서 정색하고 표정관리 못하는 호시에게 실망하면서 화가 난거고 ㅜㅜ 우리끼리 놀 때도 저렇게 놀다가 한명이 정색하면 분위기 안좋아지는데 방송으로 찍고 있는 상황이였으니 쿱스 입장에서는 리더로써 책임도 있으니 호시가 대놓고 카메라 앞에서 정색하는게 화가 났던 것 같고ㅜㅜ그래도 마지막에 맏형라인들이 다들 쉽게 못나서는 상황인데 나서서 먼저 오해였고 우리 질못도 있다고 인정하고 호시도 기분 나쁜거 티내서 미안하다고 사과해서 너무 보기좋다ㅜㅜ 세봉이들 영원하자 진짜ㅜㅜ
For anyone taking this too seriously, remember the guys clarified in a VLIVE that they had to film this 3 times and this isn’t the original clip (they basically redid it for the show , seventeen's acting debut). All my frustrations went away after knowing this 😂
이렇게 좀 다툼이 있어도 바로 푸는 모습이 대견하고 멋있다
한명도 빠짐없이 얘기를해서 푸는게 대단❤
보다가 넘 안쓰러워서 그냥 혼자 분 푸는영으로 적어봄
동생팀은 그닥 솔직히 잘못한거없다고 봄 형팀이 돈 다쓰고 용돈 바꿀 걸 아니까 우리도 똑같이 하자 그런뒤에 돈 쓰는 룰에 제약이 없으니까 그냥 그런 식으로 한거고 근데 형팀이 게임에 의욕이 과열되어서 좀 공격적으로 말이 나와서 동생팀들은 형들이니까 아무 말 못하고 듣고있기만 하고… 호시가 그래도 동생팀 리더로써 말 한 것 같은데 말 하다 보니까 서로 과열되어서 이렇게 된거고… 호시 입장에선 섭섭하고 화날 만 했다고 생각함 그리고 형들팀 화나고 실망했다 하는것도 이해가 안가는것만은 아니었음 그래도 본인들이 먼저 공격적으로 나간 거 알면 마지막에 다같이 사과를 하는 게 좀 더 좋지않았을까 함 호시만 사과하고 처음 형들팀 들어올때도 형들이 분위기 무겁게 끌고가니까 호시랑 찬이가 억! 무서운데! 하면서 분위기 푸려고 하는 거 보임 형들이 동생팀 추궁하니까 동생들도 표정 점점 굳어가는거 보이고 형들팀에 있던 승관이도 이럴줄몰랐다고 하면서 표정안좋고 눈치보는거 다 보임 형들팀만 말 많이 하고… 그리고 쿱스가 막나간다고 하니까 웃자고 한건데 왜 그러지 자막이랑 동생팀들 당황한게 넘 잘 보임 물론 호시도 어느정도 잘못은 있겠지만 ..
볼때마다 마음아포 형팀 입장도 이해가지만 동생팀 다 너무 순딩해서 암말도 못하고 있으니까 동생팀 맏내인 호시가 다 말하고 그런거 같은데 자꾸 몰고 막나간다 하고 자기딴에도 재밌게하려고 민규 뽀뽀에 돈 썼다 이렇게 한거같은데 형팀이 영수증 있냐 막 이러니까 게임인데 막 다 자기한테 그러니까 속상하고 열받고 그랬을거 이해감.. 저런 상황 겪어봐서.. 형팀도 뭐 재밌게하려고 그랬는데 뽀뽀에 썼다 이래서 어처구니 없어서 몬걸수도 있겠지만 맘아퍼다
ok I can understand Hoshi here as before in hyung team they were rich right then he was forced to change into younger team which are poorer then the money are bout to be taken by hyung team he must be hiding his angered and finally explode.... he can't even pay his revenge towards wonwoo ehehehe.... i'm super shock and don't think i can watch this again.. it was so scary hoshi ya....
I don't think it's about hoshi being forced to changed with dongsaeng and wonwoo revenge case here he already said after changed in dongsaeng team that it's ok he will adore dongsaeng team now
And situation here was out of control everyone would have reacted same the way Hoshi reacted people believe or not hyung team were too much but it's in past and all is well now but wanted to point out that it wasn't related with those things you were saying.
No! The hyung team had 27,000 won and the dongsaeng team had 32000 won but the hyung team had the advantage of switching their pocket money, so the hyungs decided to spend all their money and then swap which will leave the dongsaeng team with 0 money and the hyung team will get the dongsaeng money which is 32000won even after spending every penny. The hyungs also had the advantage of switching one member from both teams so they chose suengkwan to be in the hyung team and sent Hoshi to the dongsaeng team