@Ryan Jachtmann Aren't you a cynical bastard. Thank God we have you interrupting fun conversations to make sure everyone is "aware" of this sacred knowledge you must have over us.
I'm loving Theros for giving us a ton more strength in Mono Devotion - both this deck and black are really strong right now :) Keep up the great vids man, love them :)
Very excited to see your other creations. Not sure why but your decks always feel very solid to play with. And Blue Lotus is my new favorite so I have to thank you.
The blessing is also pretty good with Heliod. You can target the enchantment to put a counter on it when you gain life, which makes it sacrifice itself.
You actually make a good point cinderheart. Most, if not all enchantment removal is destroy effects. Only black seems to have the ability to snipe the enchantments before they hit the field (the remorse card that exiles from hand and fin lurker). I’m surprised to see no green decks yet taking advantage of the meta.
I know you said in your video you couldn't get the more aggro builds to work well but I've been working on an aggro/lifegain version of white devotion with some success. It relies on the pridemate/Ajani/Heliod synergies to overwhelm the opponent. Here's the list for anyone interested: Deck 4 Ajani's Pridemate (WAR) 4 3 Ajani, Strength of the Pride (M20) 2 4 Alseid of Life's Bounty (THB) 1 4 Castle Ardenvale (ELD) 238 2 Giant Killer (ELD) 14 3 Daxos, Blessed by the Sun (THB) 9 4 Charmed Stray (WAR) 8 2 Gideon Blackblade (WAR) 13 4 Healer's Hawk (GRN) 14 4 Heliod, Sun-Crowned (THB) 18 2 Conclave Tribunal (GRN) 6 3 Linden, the Steadfast Queen (ELD) 20 17 Plains (ELD) 253 2 Unbreakable Formation (RNA) 29 2 Arcanist's Owl (ELD) 206 It has a similar sort of redundancy to your Black/White Lifegain aggro deck from a couple weeks ago but instead of 4 bloodthirsy aerialists we're rocking 4 Heliods. The new white lifegain one drop makes buffing your pridemate's even more profitable by giving them protection to keep alive or get through some troublesome blockers. Any thoughts on Banishing Light versus Conclave Tribunal? Or feedback in general?
I've been experimenting with trying to fit 1 or 2 Angelic Gift into a deck relatively similar to this. Giving flying to a beefed up Pridemate can be really effective.
I made a deck almost identical to this except I run Visitation instead of Guidemother, and I two copies of two other cards whose names I can't remember instead of the owl.
Skyler Blumenthal I agree that it’s win more. I just have a soft spot as I didn’t play magic for a four year gap and it was the first mythic I opened when I got back into it
I just realized I had this video disliked somehow and fixed it. Makes me wonder how many of the dislikes on videos with few dislikes are just people accidentally pressing it and not realizing it
I made a Blue white version (actually I made several decks) of the blue deck you showed off yesterday. Boy howdy I think we are on to something. It is just arena is terrible to manage when you draw almost your entire deck. Mainly you need the 4 lotus, 4 Kiora, 4 of the 2 drop untapper, 3 Gadwick, and at least 3 of the oracles. The owls help but the rest is flexible.
Elspeth, Undaunted Hero. Works well in this sort of deck for the wincon. Oh and Flicker of Fate is probably a better addition than Charming Prince... you don't get the one devotion... but it's a dozen times more likely to cheaply duplicate your hoplight than Charming prince and has a lot of other utility.
35:29 IMO You could block with Tomik, because if you only have the owl, you still have enough devotion Heliod says: not creature if devotion less than five, but you devotion is (owl(4) + Heliod(1)) is five which is not less than five
How do you play this deck against Temur Elementals? They can go wide like this deck can but their pump spells are more reliable. They can keep bouncing your cards to slow you down and remove counters while they get their combo in place and then they play arkoan war and completely wipe you out. If that doesn't fail they usually use a couple agents of treachery that they flicker in and out to steal your key cards and deny you the devotion bonuses. Seems like it hard counters this deck.
Just ran this deck but didn't have any Heliods. So I swapped him out for Haktos and splashed red. It works really well with Exaltation because it buffs his 1 toughness in combat making him less likely to die vs chump blockers.
@@LegenVD Finding Haktos difficult to work around with mana. Another plan, splash blue instead of red and put in Thrassa- then bounce the Owl to help find Exalt, or bounce Hoplite. The owls help with devotion for both colours to get Thassa out. I ended up going: 4 Hawks, 4 Daxos, 4 Birth of Meletis, 2 Ardenvale Tactician, 2 Thassa, 4 Owls, 2 Cavalier of Dawn, 4 Hoplite, 2 Elspeth Conquers Light. I just tested it and ended up rocking over 100 life from the Daxos, Thrassa, Hoplite combo
Exaltation is good when your deck can create tokens. Of course you already knew this, but if Hoplite is your only token creation in the deck, having exaltation does not really benefit it.
Overall, though I'd say if you're REALLY new, then find something that you have a lot of fun playing. If this deck is it (and it could be) go for it. When I first played, CGB did an Esper deck that I just loved to play and still do. If you already have other decks you enjoy, I'd probably hold out on spending wilds on too many copies of cards that might not be useful in other decks. I wasted a lot of wilds to complete a deck that turned out to be not fun to play.
I always wonder what is the reasoning of including Tomik in decks, as it's not that great of a card stat-wise and its ability is very situational. Here of course the double white in the mana cost makes sense for devotion purposes, but it's probably the only deck so far where Tomik can fit somehow.
@@lordfifth4520 yeah the stats are good compared to the cost, I just wonder why would someone choose it over, say, Hushbringer, with a way more useful ability even though it hits for less. I'm not the best at deckbuilding though, so there's that.
@@m4p0 this deck has some etb effects so hushbringer would be double edged sword. Like the 2 mana guy when a creature enters/dies,you gain life and 4 mana guy who makes tokens equal to your devotion. One of the good synergy this deck has is that life gain guy with heliod which puts + counters when you gain life. With both of them on the board,if you play that token generator guy,you can put that many + counters to your creatures.
@@lordfifth4520 the issue is not with this deck, I was speaking generally and not just for Hushnbringer (that's the first 2 CMC white creature that came to mind)
Am I the only one who doesn't like how lands are displayed on Arena? Like, basic lands and full art lands look the same when you're not hovering over them
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Our devotion to LVD is pretty high
If your devotion is twitch prime or higher, win the game
Amen I say you.
@Ryan Jachtmann Aren't you a cynical bastard. Thank God we have you interrupting fun conversations to make sure everyone is "aware" of this sacred knowledge you must have over us.
Love this build
This deck’s synergies are beautiful.
I think unbreakable formation can be pretty good there. And if we are talking about sideboard options, Gideon's Sacrifice comes to mind.
I'm loving Theros for giving us a ton more strength in Mono Devotion - both this deck and black are really strong right now :) Keep up the great vids man, love them :)
I cant seem to get black to work
I need to add divine visitation in this deck! Looks super fun!
Very excited to see your other creations. Not sure why but your decks always feel very solid to play with. And Blue Lotus is my new favorite so I have to thank you.
I do love how it appears the new cards are already being integrated into the meta.
You sound really energetic in this video. Loved that
thank you for the consistently awesome content!
The blessing is also pretty good with Heliod. You can target the enchantment to put a counter on it when you gain life, which makes it sacrifice itself.
Black white could be interesting then. Is there anything else that targets enchantments that isn't destruction?
You actually make a good point cinderheart.
Most, if not all enchantment removal is destroy effects.
Only black seems to have the ability to snipe the enchantments before they hit the field (the remorse card that exiles from hand and fin lurker).
I’m surprised to see no green decks yet taking advantage of the meta.
Nobody:
LVD: 2020 needs more wombo-combos.
LVD : hahaha devotion to WIDE
ME : hahaha nice. May I present you to my devotion to GIN
thank you very very much it helps me so much to build a strong deck as a beginner. big thanks !!!
i mean the forest deck ^^ wrong Video ^^
I know you said in your video you couldn't get the more aggro builds to work well but I've been working on an aggro/lifegain version of white devotion with some success. It relies on the pridemate/Ajani/Heliod synergies to overwhelm the opponent. Here's the list for anyone interested:
Deck
4 Ajani's Pridemate (WAR) 4
3 Ajani, Strength of the Pride (M20) 2
4 Alseid of Life's Bounty (THB) 1
4 Castle Ardenvale (ELD) 238
2 Giant Killer (ELD) 14
3 Daxos, Blessed by the Sun (THB) 9
4 Charmed Stray (WAR) 8
2 Gideon Blackblade (WAR) 13
4 Healer's Hawk (GRN) 14
4 Heliod, Sun-Crowned (THB) 18
2 Conclave Tribunal (GRN) 6
3 Linden, the Steadfast Queen (ELD) 20
17 Plains (ELD) 253
2 Unbreakable Formation (RNA) 29
2 Arcanist's Owl (ELD) 206
It has a similar sort of redundancy to your Black/White Lifegain aggro deck from a couple weeks ago but instead of 4 bloodthirsy aerialists we're rocking 4 Heliods. The new white lifegain one drop makes buffing your pridemate's even more profitable by giving them protection to keep alive or get through some troublesome blockers. Any thoughts on Banishing Light versus Conclave Tribunal? Or feedback in general?
I've been experimenting with trying to fit 1 or 2 Angelic Gift into a deck relatively similar to this. Giving flying to a beefed up Pridemate can be really effective.
Great deck. I'm going to try it out tonight. A lot of great matchups as well.
Had a hard time against this deck in the ladder, great games man, thanks!
Would divine visitation be a card you would consider adding in this deck in place of something to make angels instead of soldiers
One copy could be fun!
I made a deck almost identical to this except I run Visitation instead of Guidemother, and I two copies of two other cards whose names I can't remember instead of the owl.
I'd run elspeth over it, visitation is a bad top deck
Visitation is pretty win-more tbh.
Skyler Blumenthal I agree that it’s win more. I just have a soft spot as I didn’t play magic for a four year gap and it was the first mythic I opened when I got back into it
Quite an interesting deck that has a lot of synergy.
I just realized I had this video disliked somehow and fixed it. Makes me wonder how many of the dislikes on videos with few dislikes are just people accidentally pressing it and not realizing it
Hey, great little deck, instead of charming prince i put in 4x Linden's, super powerful card when combined with Heliod.
I made a Blue white version (actually I made several decks) of the blue deck you showed off yesterday. Boy howdy I think we are on to something. It is just arena is terrible to manage when you draw almost your entire deck. Mainly you need the 4 lotus, 4 Kiora, 4 of the 2 drop untapper, 3 Gadwick, and at least 3 of the oracles. The owls help but the rest is flexible.
1 or 2 divine visitations? works well with the lands . and can be found with the owl. and whats better than 5x 1/1 ? 5x 4/4 flying.
Elspeth, Undaunted Hero. Works well in this sort of deck for the wincon. Oh and Flicker of Fate is probably a better addition than Charming Prince... you don't get the one devotion... but it's a dozen times more likely to cheaply duplicate your hoplight than Charming prince and has a lot of other utility.
35:29 IMO You could block with Tomik, because if you only have the owl, you still have enough devotion
Heliod says: not creature if devotion less than five, but you devotion is (owl(4) + Heliod(1)) is five which is not less than five
I like Flicker of Fate instead of Charming Prince. It also combos with Elspeth Conquers Death.
Cool deck
This is the only white Heliod list I've seen since the set released that had made me think to myself "This deck looks good".
How do you play this deck against Temur Elementals? They can go wide like this deck can but their pump spells are more reliable. They can keep bouncing your cards to slow you down and remove counters while they get their combo in place and then they play arkoan war and completely wipe you out. If that doesn't fail they usually use a couple agents of treachery that they flicker in and out to steal your key cards and deny you the devotion bonuses. Seems like it hard counters this deck.
Just ran this deck but didn't have any Heliods. So I swapped him out for Haktos and splashed red. It works really well with Exaltation because it buffs his 1 toughness in combat making him less likely to die vs chump blockers.
Good point, was thinking of how to build around him.
@@LegenVD
Finding Haktos difficult to work around with mana.
Another plan, splash blue instead of red and put in Thrassa- then bounce the Owl to help find Exalt, or bounce Hoplite. The owls help with devotion for both colours to get Thassa out. I ended up going: 4 Hawks, 4 Daxos, 4 Birth of Meletis, 2 Ardenvale Tactician, 2 Thassa, 4 Owls, 2 Cavalier of Dawn, 4 Hoplite, 2 Elspeth Conquers Light.
I just tested it and ended up rocking over 100 life from the Daxos, Thrassa, Hoplite combo
In historic mono white life gain is insane. Especially with Heliod.
It’s fun to play white/blue and thassa then blink the hoplite
Orzhov control based around doom with devotion to black and white payoffs are sweet asf
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I’ve been having a ton of fun with a heliod brawl deck
Don't tell me you paid the 10k gold (again)?
Of course not - arenabrawl.net
Could Okehame Ranger find a place in this deck? 4 White mana symbols and it has a tap for anthem ability
The 4-drops are a little too crowded.
Exaltation is good when your deck can create tokens. Of course you already knew this, but if Hoplite is your only token creation in the deck, having exaltation does not really benefit it.
There is tension between making tokens and having a lot of Devotion.
What?! Non-combo Heliod deck? Impossible.
Lvd you should play a big red good stuff deck! Just a fun thought
Mono black looks so strong every time I see it
How about one or two shadowspears to get past opposing creatures with an exalted creature?
Could be serviceable.
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**surprised pikichu face at work**
why're u watching youtube at work...?
@@NecromancyForKids why are you replying youtube comment at work...?
Looks like a fun deck. I’m pretty new, is this a good deck for me to invest in to do my dailies and progress with?
I would say investing at least in heliod can be no mistake
Overall, though I'd say if you're REALLY new, then find something that you have a lot of fun playing. If this deck is it (and it could be) go for it. When I first played, CGB did an Esper deck that I just loved to play and still do. If you already have other decks you enjoy, I'd probably hold out on spending wilds on too many copies of cards that might not be useful in other decks. I wasted a lot of wilds to complete a deck that turned out to be not fun to play.
is this worth to craft as first standard deck? it doesnt need much rare
can be good in bo 3?why no potential sidebord ?:(
And that Lady, Linden?
Work so good in that deck...
I tried it, but was pretty underwhelmed.
@@LegenVD take 2 Angelic exaltation and 1 tomik... or u don't need more then 3 legendary card of each one... will be too heavy in manas
Second lost: why note play lifelink on Helios twice where he attacked alone twice? Heliod cant give lifelink to himself?
Can't give lifelink to himself
I always wonder what is the reasoning of including Tomik in decks, as it's not that great of a card stat-wise and its ability is very situational. Here of course the double white in the mana cost makes sense for devotion purposes, but it's probably the only deck so far where Tomik can fit somehow.
2/3 flying for 2 mana is decent. Not the best but white doesnt have many other options.
@@lordfifth4520 yeah the stats are good compared to the cost, I just wonder why would someone choose it over, say, Hushbringer, with a way more useful ability even though it hits for less. I'm not the best at deckbuilding though, so there's that.
@@m4p0 this deck has some etb effects so hushbringer would be double edged sword. Like the 2 mana guy when a creature enters/dies,you gain life and 4 mana guy who makes tokens equal to your devotion. One of the good synergy this deck has is that life gain guy with heliod which puts + counters when you gain life. With both of them on the board,if you play that token generator guy,you can put that many + counters to your creatures.
@@m4p0 Oh also this deck has Charming prince too so Hushbringer would turn off at least 3 of our creatures.
@@lordfifth4520 the issue is not with this deck, I was speaking generally and not just for Hushnbringer (that's the first 2 CMC white creature that came to mind)
Love you.
3 mana gideon planeswalker?
It's better in the more aggro builds.
Huh... No Linden ? She's perfect with Heliod...
edit: also: Resolute rider, oakhame ranger (wich pairs well with hoplite too)
And it's not even that expensive, which is great
More draft pls
Looks like blue is op based on the gameplay
can heliod not give himself lifelink? That would've saved you against bw flyers
He cannot.
Am I the only one who doesn't like how lands are displayed on Arena? Like, basic lands and full art lands look the same when you're not hovering over them
Funny how a mono white lifegain devotion deck doesn't play Linden.
devotion to wide bottom
Your limited videos are really top notch, but when it comes to constructed you seem to avoid playing ranked, what gives?
W I D E
Poor Duck Sauce....
>Devotion to wide
Lewd
i made it first
White looks like the weakest colour once again. I don't get the hate from wotc so many sets in a row