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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 311

  • @adrienkopish3220
    @adrienkopish3220 5 лет назад +44

    Wisconsin has crazy true crime stories. we just solved a 43 year old cold case in my small town last month! Craziness!!!

    • @camvin575
      @camvin575 5 лет назад +7

      Omg what case was that?

  • @jeremyud
    @jeremyud 5 лет назад +97

    I've known about this case for a couple of years. My belief has always been that Janice (the usual babysitter) was the target and Evelyn was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 5 лет назад +5

      I beleive that too. Also it's not out of the realms of possibility that Ed gein was involved since he was staying with family a few blocks away that evening..

    • @andreaturnquist4855
      @andreaturnquist4855 5 лет назад +2

      Me too!!

    • @mommy2rae586
      @mommy2rae586 5 лет назад +7

      I was born and raised in Lacrosse county and we all believe this... No one believes this was all intended for Evelyn.

    • @europa.8150
      @europa.8150 5 лет назад +4

      @@julz3tt3 I do belive he said he had nothing to do with it

    • @shihtzumom1283
      @shihtzumom1283 5 лет назад

      I agree!

  • @edsanchez6173
    @edsanchez6173 5 лет назад +9

    I agree that going into a house where you can see lights on, to burglarize the place, is not an ideal choice unless you know what you want is in that house. The two guys that came forward about the farmer could have been accomplices trying to insert themselves into the investigation (one of them could have been the voice picked up in the bar tape). Could be the two guys that came forward were the killers, implicating a dead man. Sad we may never know. Great video.

  • @Madame_Butterfly_13
    @Madame_Butterfly_13 5 лет назад +78

    I really think that the farmer theory holds the most promise here. It’s just really frustrating that he’s now long dead 😕 I wonder if his house & his land is still there? Unbuilt on? Maybe relatives inherited his belongings & don’t even realise that they could possibly hold the key? 🤔

    • @Madame_Butterfly_13
      @Madame_Butterfly_13 5 лет назад

      Devi Thanks, I’ll check it out.

    • @mommy2rae586
      @mommy2rae586 5 лет назад +12

      As someone who is from LAX county the farm is still there but the actual house is long gone... We all think she's under the pavement from when everything was under construction. Lacrosse is notorious for not ripping up old pavement and just adding on top of it, especially in this area of LAX, at the base of Grand Dad's Bluff.

    • @Madame_Butterfly_13
      @Madame_Butterfly_13 5 лет назад +4

      Shailynn Marie Oh wow. Thank you for commenting, that’s very interesting. Have people ever asked the local gov to dig there?

    • @tamiontherun1461
      @tamiontherun1461 5 лет назад +3

      Maybe the guys who told about the farmer was actually those two guys seen. Maybe they borrowed the farmers car

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 5 лет назад +2

      Wow, so most likely the farmer and a farm hand?

  • @Presca1
    @Presca1 5 лет назад +44

    Perhaps the killer knew folks were at the game so when he drove past the house he spotted Evelyn inside alone and knew no one would be around to see anything

  • @rachozbaxtoz
    @rachozbaxtoz 5 лет назад +109

    My initial reaction was that they were there for the original baby sitter.

    • @johexxkitten
      @johexxkitten 5 лет назад +1

      I thought that too.

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 5 лет назад

      Yes.

    • @shihtzumom1283
      @shihtzumom1283 5 лет назад +1

      I agree

    • @nicolemh
      @nicolemh 5 лет назад +3

      But didn’t she say there were pry marks on the neighbors windows too? That makes me think it was a robbery gone wrong or something along those lines.

    • @Anna-vl8qc
      @Anna-vl8qc 2 года назад

      Why though?

  • @patriciawaring
    @patriciawaring 5 лет назад +34

    Love this case, Gabby! Hardly ever hear it covered. Babysitting stories have always scared me. Maybe its remembering my old babysitting days & all the frightening experiences I had, lol. Thanks so much. From the Great State of Oklahoma!

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 5 лет назад +2

      I know. I've asked a few RUclipsrs to do this tragic case on Evelyn

  • @julz3tt3
    @julz3tt3 5 лет назад +66

    Omg I have been asking and asking for this case to be considered xx thankyou x if they had the DNA technology they did now, I beleive the case would have been solved. 1953 was decades upon decades ago. I've always thought that sadly, Evelyn died that evening. So many theories abound. A transient, Ed gein, A Farmer and his son, random people out for blood.. 😰😨😓 RIP Evie 🙏💐❤️🙏 there was that confession in 1963 by a drunken man. The Farmer theory certainly holds potential. Also how awful that she was on her period at the time to add to the horror.

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 5 лет назад

      @@someone55995 ooh thank you 😊❤️

    • @crochetingcanuck
      @crochetingcanuck 3 года назад +1

      Being on her period makes me believe the mens pants found with blood on them might have been related. Could have made a mess while he was trying to take advantage of her. Poor thing.

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 Год назад

      ​@@crochetingcanuckyes that's absolutely horrific

  • @mommy2rae586
    @mommy2rae586 5 лет назад +16

    Rest beautifully Evelyn, LAX county still loves and thinks about you. 💚 We talk about you all the time.

  • @ccw2613
    @ccw2613 5 лет назад +26

    I think they were waiting for her when she came downstairs. Possibly the baby cried when she was put down and that is when the person entered undetected. I also think that the situation with the farmer is very suspicious but it's unfortunate the witnesses waited 20 years to come forward, although maybe the witness protections we have in place today wouldn't have been in place then. Such a sad story.

  • @punkietheraccoon5773
    @punkietheraccoon5773 5 лет назад +25

    Love the effort, time and energy you put into researching these cases. On a different note, love your hair and makeup!

  • @chriscross2001
    @chriscross2001 5 лет назад +7

    Have you heard of the case of Robert, Helen and Joy Sims? It happened in small-town Tallahassee, Florida in the 1960s right before Halloween. They were all murdered in a town where in those days, no one locked their doors. I thought I'd mention it - Joy was 12 years old - her mother worked for the local church as a secretary and her Dad worked at Florida State University. She had two sisters that weren't home the night of the families murder. Hope you can showcase this unsolved murder.

  • @loribell3530
    @loribell3530 5 лет назад +20

    I wondered if you would cover this one thanks so much!!!!I I love how respectful and accurate you are. Ben following this for a long time so sad I can't even imagine seeing blood you know is likely your child's and then to never know what happened to her. I always wondered if the regular babysitter was the real target .thanks for a great video 💞💞💞💞

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 5 лет назад +5

      Yeah. I have to wonder if the regular babysitter was the original target and Hartley was just a victim of wrong place, wrong time.

  • @andreaturnquist4855
    @andreaturnquist4855 5 лет назад +31

    I have never clicked so fast! Love your channel!

  • @bonniemuehleman396
    @bonniemuehleman396 5 лет назад +4

    La Crosse is my other home (lived there 20 yrs and still have a place there) so it's nice to finally see someone cover her case.

  • @whitneyangelie3682
    @whitneyangelie3682 5 лет назад +31

    Converse definitely stole their design from those old shoes, I literally thought that was a hella old school pair of Chucks!

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 5 лет назад +2

      Your right. They do look like Converse sneakers.

    • @whitneyangelie3682
      @whitneyangelie3682 5 лет назад +4

      Miranda Goldstine Right? They even have the white circle on the upper part of the shoe lol

    • @eatiegourmet1015
      @eatiegourmet1015 5 лет назад +18

      Well, since Converse has been making athletic shoes since about 1915, they probably Were Converse shoes.

    • @pixelette98
      @pixelette98 5 лет назад +8

      i think they are converse..

    • @shari5982
      @shari5982 3 года назад +7

      Goodrich didn’t start making the PF Flyer until 1937, so likely they “borrowed” the design from Converse. New Balance is still producing the PF Flyer, btw.

  • @neannawallace5131
    @neannawallace5131 5 лет назад +10

    I’m at work Rn but it’s not stopping me from watching you’re video lol

  • @EleenaJane
    @EleenaJane 5 лет назад +5

    I love listening to your videos when I’m doing chores, they’re somehow relaxing 😂 must be your voice

  • @deb7412
    @deb7412 5 лет назад +7

    Maybe whoever entered the house turned the music on to disguise/drown out any noise from inside. And lights on to make it look like somebody was home to avoid suspicion.

  • @lese91
    @lese91 5 лет назад +39

    I don’t feel like she or anyone who was supposed to be at the house were specifically targeted since you said there were crow bar marks on surrounding house’s windows

    • @timippolito1182
      @timippolito1182 5 лет назад +3

      @@someone55995 Yea, not a whole lot to go on with this one, but I agree with you guys that no one was
      personally targeted. Probably parked his/their car checking homes (almost certainly not for robbery),
      but pretty much for what he/they pulled off..

    • @ingriddubbel8468
      @ingriddubbel8468 5 лет назад

      You are very, very stupid and have poor grammar.

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 5 лет назад +6

      @@ingriddubbel8468 You are ridiculously rude and petty, O RUclips Grammar Police.

    • @camvin575
      @camvin575 5 лет назад +3

      @@ingriddubbel8468 You are a disgusting person.
      Somebody had to delete their comment section because you said the same thing to a woman who had had a stroke and only had a certain amount of brain function.
      You should feel so crappy about yourself.

    • @leonaheraty3760
      @leonaheraty3760 5 лет назад +1

      I agree.

  • @andreawiseman6255
    @andreawiseman6255 5 лет назад +13

    You look amazing- so refreshed and beautiful 💖

  • @Faythe98
    @Faythe98 5 лет назад +15

    Just watched Brooke MaKenna’s video on this case! So glad to see two fantastic people covering this case! I truly hope one day her remains will be found.

    • @ColorMeShell
      @ColorMeShell 5 лет назад +5

      It's actually Brooke Makenna...in case she gets subs from ur shout out... 👍😀

    • @ratherande
      @ratherande 5 лет назад

      Ikr I love watching multiple videos about the same case so I can get all the details

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 5 лет назад +1

      I looooove Brooke

  • @mrs.elitenugz8491
    @mrs.elitenugz8491 5 лет назад +7

    Wow I hadn't heard of this! Thank you Gabby , you always do an incredible job!

  • @locknessa5194
    @locknessa5194 5 лет назад +11

    Omg this is my city!! As soon as you said the name, I was like about tiiime 😭this case has reappeared in our city newspaper earlier this year, and throughout the years...So sad, and still haunting..La Crosse has a dark history. A lot of tragic endings, ones that hopefully gets solved soon.

    • @camvin575
      @camvin575 5 лет назад

      Can you tell me more about its dark history?
      Sorry I'm from the UK but so interested in history of other places.

    • @7614Kids
      @7614Kids 4 года назад

      I live right by lacrosse, why is it dark?

  • @TheCrazziestGuy
    @TheCrazziestGuy 5 лет назад +5

    Such an interesting case, thank you for putting your time to cover this!

  • @mls617983
    @mls617983 5 лет назад +19

    Excellent video. Thank you. This case has always saddened me maybe more so than some other cases. Kids her age were in general more innocent than kids were when I was going up and especially are today. Of course we know things did happen but not as frequently. She was a sweet really good girl doing a job for her fathers co-worker and she was abducted and most likely murdered shortly afterwards. Like all of these cases it was a senseless crime done by an evil person(s). It will most likely never be solved due to time and any suspects are most likely deceased.

  • @Kimmyyy1999
    @Kimmyyy1999 5 лет назад +5

    I was waiting for another video saw this while working out I literally stopped just to watch this 🤘🏼💕💕 thank you for another insightful content, you’re effort never goes unnoticed

  • @helia6356
    @helia6356 5 лет назад +8

    Can you do a Hit's Home case for Alyssa Wiles? She was murdered in my home town of Duncan, Oklahoma by her boyfriend a few years ago. She was only 14. It is a good example for younger people and being safe while dating. Thank you!

  • @sukilui33
    @sukilui33 5 лет назад +6

    Love these longer vids. Heard of this one before, such a shame her parents died never knowing

  • @alicemerchant3317
    @alicemerchant3317 5 лет назад +2

    Wonderful stories and you do such a wonderful job telling the story for these poor victims.
    Two more cases, Tammy Belanger an eight year old girl missing from Exeter, New Hampshire in the early eighties and eighteen year old Mary Tanner from Kennebunk, Maine.
    Mary Tanners friends and family are trying to bring light to Mary’s unsolved murder that took place in 1978.
    The body of little eight year old Tammy Belanger has never been found.
    A suspect has since died.
    It would be great if you could tell these girls stories so that they will not be forgotten.

  • @emmaconrad17
    @emmaconrad17 5 лет назад +11

    Your hair looks stunning in this! Amazing job, like always!!

  • @trishab4327
    @trishab4327 5 лет назад +4

    Hi Gaby, would you please consider covering the Elizabeth Bain case which occurred in Toronto Canada. She has been missing since 1990 and although it is referred to as a murder case, her body has never been found and no one knows what happened. It is a very bizarre and incredibly haunting case that still lingers in the memory of those from her area . Her boyfriend was tried and convicted of her murder and served 8 years, but than was pardoned because it was believed to be a wrongful conviction. To this day he says he didnt do it.

  • @deettekearns9092
    @deettekearns9092 5 лет назад +3

    Never heard this case before. Thanks for covering. Regarding the last theory: it makes sense what the men said about the farmer. There were only one set of shoes prints. The shoes and jacket fit. But the men should have gone to the police right away. Them holding onto that information for as long as they did was just stupid. Thanks again.

  • @rae7158
    @rae7158 5 лет назад +4

    love you gabbie! your videos make me so happy and never disappoint. literally get so excited when you post. ok i sound like a total freak byeeeeeee

  • @Makeuploveculture
    @Makeuploveculture 5 лет назад +4

    I think that it was not robbery at all- I think their intention was violence as you said. Which also brings me to the point that I really believe that the two men were telling the truth about the farmer because they kept the same story and even tried to continue the investigation going even after the farmer was dead.

  • @SarahE1982
    @SarahE1982 5 лет назад +1

    I've spent a lot of time in and around the La Crosse area in my lifetime and I have never heard of this case! Thank you for bringing it to my attention, poor family never getting answers before they passed away. That's awful.

  • @sunnyjoslynn851
    @sunnyjoslynn851 5 лет назад +2

    Your hair looks so pretty like this!
    I mean you ALWAYS look beautiful, but nice to see you switch it up! Haha 💕

  • @nr3858
    @nr3858 5 лет назад +10

    The babysitter theory sticks out in my mind!

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 4 года назад

      But they have a daughter the same age as Evelyn. Why would they need a babysitter for when the Rasmussen family dudbte all go out together? Unless the daughter was the target. The 15 Yr old Rasmussen daughter perhaps?

  • @Vee8321
    @Vee8321 5 лет назад +1

    Omg I finally understood the pun in the title. And I’ve watched the video 3-4 times cuz I keep falling asleep to it.

  • @john80c
    @john80c 5 лет назад +1

    You cover your cases so thoroughly and professionally as with this one. Even if this was a target killing I think the perpetrator was drunk or stoned. They killed her and disposed of the body. In the morning they were unaware of the enormity of their action. I think if you covered the George (Superman) Reeves something would turn up. Your expertise is up there with the true crime shows that I used to watch and try to solve back in England.

  • @leonaheraty3760
    @leonaheraty3760 5 лет назад

    Well done, Gabby. You are very professional and do excellent research. God bless you for helping to solve these horrible crimes. May dear Evelyn find peace and love on the Other Side. 🌷

  • @amyyoshikawa7698
    @amyyoshikawa7698 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Gabby, this is another sad and tragic missing person case. Hope Evelyn will be found one day. Too many old cold cases. Tomorrow I will be at a hospital for a minor colonoscopy procedure. I am glad I was able to watch your vlog today. So sorry to about this strange and scary babysitting story. I can't trust some people and strangers. Have a great week!

  • @deltatango6793
    @deltatango6793 Год назад +2

    I always wonder about assailants from the community of the team that the homecoming game was playing that night in cases of crime on nights like that.

  • @zoe-lee2522
    @zoe-lee2522 5 лет назад +7

    My favourite RUclips and I'm here early? Blessssss

  • @MrGlittergirl554
    @MrGlittergirl554 5 лет назад +6

    Hey Gabby I found a case on the doe network that i like and I think u should maybe do a video on ....... The case of Rebecca Ann triska , a girl whos the same age as the girl we r talking about here who has been missing since September 19, 1958 and still 2 this day we still don't know what happened to her and there's a man who is a suspect in her disappearance but he claims he has nothing to do with her disappearance and this guy actually died of cancer in the 90s and idk like u say it's very fishy and if u wanna u can make a video on her

  • @JSB1882
    @JSB1882 5 лет назад +2

    I think theory three about the other baby sitter - or the farmer one. Two guys hanging on to a story that long seem pretty determined to get it out there.

  • @leannah9832
    @leannah9832 5 лет назад +15

    Please please please do a video about Brigette Garnier. She's from my home town, Roseisle Manitoba.I know I sound like a broken record.😯😕

    • @gwynethetta4514
      @gwynethetta4514 5 лет назад +1

      I doubt that's possible. I tried to found anything about Brigette via google and there is nothing.

    • @leannah9832
      @leannah9832 5 лет назад

      Sorry it's spelled brigitte

    • @gwynethetta4514
      @gwynethetta4514 5 лет назад +1

      Can you provide any info? I don't see anything about Brigette neither on reddit or websleuths. If she's missing or became a victim of unsolved crime maybe you yourself could help.

    • @leannah9832
      @leannah9832 5 лет назад +2

      She was taken from a rock festival. And found her brutally murdered. Kyle Unger went to jail for her murder but was later acquitted

    • @camvin575
      @camvin575 5 лет назад

      @@leannah9832 Is their much info online about this case though?
      If their isn't much info then I doubt Gabby would be able to do a whole video on it if you no what I mean?

  • @crusiethmaximuss
    @crusiethmaximuss 5 лет назад +3

    It sure seems as if these men knew about her by some means of every house in the immediate area of the majority of them were all void of people at that moment, and that certainly begs the question as to why no one bothered to question any of the home owner's friends, neighbor's friends and so forth... Such a strange situation and I can't get passed the thought of her being targeted specifically... It's terrifying knowing that these kinds of people act well and seldom show signs of their innate madness.

  • @AuroraHolisticLights
    @AuroraHolisticLights 5 лет назад +4

    Love your channel 😻 I miss your conspiracy theories and paranormal videos, though! ❤️😭

  • @morganstone897
    @morganstone897 5 лет назад

    Best lipstick choice you've made! Love it!

  • @Kpink452
    @Kpink452 5 лет назад +4

    Really fascinating thank you . Love your in depth research and respect for the victims thank you

  • @mommy2rae586
    @mommy2rae586 5 лет назад +2

    This case is from my home town and still haunts everyone... We all think that she's buried under the roads that were under construction. LAX is notorious for not ripping up old pavement and just adding new on top... That's why our roads suck 😂

  • @Kim-ji2qo
    @Kim-ji2qo 5 лет назад +5

    Love your channel!!

  • @kasparhartley266
    @kasparhartley266 3 года назад +1

    This is my great aunt (grandads sister). Good video

  • @babydragon5213
    @babydragon5213 5 лет назад +10

    Maybe she wasn't able to break free and scream until a few houses down?

  • @robinbrl
    @robinbrl 5 лет назад +3

    This is a difficult and sad case. I am thinking of the robbery gone wrong. It seems to me that it had to be someone who watched the house and knew that the Ramusens would not be home. I don't know.

  • @SunnySchorpioTarot25
    @SunnySchorpioTarot25 5 лет назад

    Gabulosis & Amber loves mystery are my favorite true crime youtubers 😀

  • @mistressfuhrer2756
    @mistressfuhrer2756 5 лет назад +7

    I think they were after the original babysitter and just settled for the one who was there.

  • @littlefishiesinthese
    @littlefishiesinthese 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for the upload!!

  • @thejoycatcher8189
    @thejoycatcher8189 5 лет назад +1

    Now I want to see you cover the Samuel Little case‼️‼️

  • @katiemecca2806
    @katiemecca2806 5 лет назад +4

    LIVING for the pun in the title

  • @patriciakavanagh6788
    @patriciakavanagh6788 5 лет назад +2

    Gabulosis - a tragic tale well told! Thank you for your professionalism and for your great heart. You have many subscribers and you deserve even more. I discern subtle changes as your work emerges - you never stop growing. Of all the sites I watch yours and MysteriousWV are my favorite. The moment I see your name, I jump to your next mystery. Infinite thanks! PK

  • @cindylwinslow
    @cindylwinslow 5 лет назад +1

    Gabulosis would you please do a story or stories on one, two or all three of the missing little boys that I am going to list? Victor Shoemaker Jr was 5 years old when he disappeared in 1994. I used to work with Victor's mother. Dennis Martin was 6 years old when he disappeared in 1969. Alfred Beilhartz was 4 years old when he disappeared in 1938.

  • @elinbjork3263
    @elinbjork3263 Год назад

    I'm a WI resident and I've never heard of this. Heartbreaking.

  • @alexwallar8608
    @alexwallar8608 5 лет назад +3

    Your hair is beautiful

  • @troia5875
    @troia5875 5 лет назад +2

    Looking into this case and apparently the guy that had taped the conversation that implicated 3 men in the abduction/possible murder of Evelyn said he just....forgot about it a few days later, which was why he hadn't come forward earlier and I'm just like?? HOW???

    • @Anna-vl8qc
      @Anna-vl8qc 2 года назад +2

      Did the police look where the men said they buried her?Why not?

  • @anastasiagirl1342
    @anastasiagirl1342 5 лет назад +2

    What an insane case!

  • @courtneypardo7134
    @courtneypardo7134 5 лет назад +4

    You should do a video on the disappearance of Martha Jean Lambert

  • @IronmanV5
    @IronmanV5 5 лет назад +1

    Ed Gein, the inspiration for the novel, and film, Psycho and for Leatherface from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
    As much of a PITA as they can be(4 AM potty breaks), there are advantages to having a Great Dane and a Great Dane/German Shepard mix.

  • @beccajean4418
    @beccajean4418 5 лет назад

    someone needs to do a video on mother's intuition or intuition in general!!! there was a day I felt sick to my stomach then I got fired that day... I knew something was coming...

  • @jo3llen
    @jo3llen 5 лет назад

    please please please cover Erik Cross. He was from Vicksburg, Michigan where i grew up and still am growing up. it’s an gruesome unsolved murder case, but it was re opened when people started talking. there’s posters all over vicksburg saying “justice for erik” i’ve tried to do my own research, but i couldn’t find anything, hoping somehow you’d be able to find out more?

  • @laurenmacbrock
    @laurenmacbrock 5 лет назад +1

    i love your hair!!

  • @TheGrungy1
    @TheGrungy1 4 года назад +5

    There is no way Ed was involved. His victim profile was older women not kids.

  • @nanettekhoury6514
    @nanettekhoury6514 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for another great video:)

  • @cheslimae6556
    @cheslimae6556 5 лет назад +1

    I don’t know if you do requests but I’d love to see a video about Holly Bobo!

  • @ICHope2007
    @ICHope2007 5 лет назад +12

    Love this! Is the name of the family pronounced Ras-MUSE-SIN?

    • @SolSkinn
      @SolSkinn 5 лет назад +1

      No

    • @gabulosis
      @gabulosis  5 лет назад +10

      It’s pronounced Ras-muss-en, I thought it was pronounced differently as well until listening to podcasts about the case.

    • @justrenee2640
      @justrenee2640 5 лет назад +1

      Fun fact Marilyn Monroe had a long time adored hairdresser named Gladyss Rasmussen who also styled Jean Harlowe💖💕 R.I.P. Hartley😩

    • @SolSkinn
      @SolSkinn 5 лет назад +1

      @@justrenee2640 🙂and her mother's name was also gladys! I've met her once! Gladys the hairdresser, obviously lol!

    • @WinterWitch01
      @WinterWitch01 5 лет назад +1

      I've heard it that way and Ras-miss-sin.

  • @thearcadegamer8128
    @thearcadegamer8128 5 лет назад +25

    As much as I would love to contribute to your patreon I sadly cannot as I am on a tight budget and have personal expenses and am saving up for a car and trying to keep a steady balance. I work part time at McDonald's for twelve an hour and barely work twenty hours a week so at this moment I will be saving my money and building my income but hopefully I might be able.to one day contribute.

    • @gabulosis
      @gabulosis  5 лет назад +12

      The More Things Change it’s just a little side project I work on, no pressure at all to join, any support at all means the world to me ♥️

    • @StephanieMT
      @StephanieMT 5 лет назад +8

      You are supporting her for free on youtube by watching the videos, ads if there are any and liking the videos and i think commenting. At least thats what i heard.

    • @jamiemichelle5981
      @jamiemichelle5981 5 лет назад +5

      I love that @gabulosis has only 1 tier and shows so much appreciation to all of her fans!

  • @germaniejacobs5735
    @germaniejacobs5735 5 лет назад +7

    Being a mom, I have to wonder why the parents didn't want her to leave the blanket at 7pm when she put Janice to bed? Why wait 15 minutes? Am I the only one who finds this odd?

    • @michelewalburn4376
      @michelewalburn4376 5 лет назад +7

      No, you're sure not. Some babies are peculiar though, so maybe the baby would kick it off unless you waited until she was sound asleep?

    • @germaniejacobs5735
      @germaniejacobs5735 5 лет назад +1

      @@michelewalburn4376 okay awesome. I've been thinking about it trying to come up with something. I was thinking that or they didn't want to blanket to end covering the baby's face or kick the blanket off, roll over, and not be able to breathe. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @michelewalburn4376
      @michelewalburn4376 5 лет назад +1

      They would've had to have been very far ahead of the time. People only stopped using baby blankets in the crib very recently. Maybe she had covered her face before though. It just made my alarm bells go off when she said that. I'm trying to rationalize that part of the story, but he could be involved. He could've been watching her since he knew her dad. He could've paid someone to take her out of there or he could've had something over someone's head and blackmailed them until doing it.

    • @germaniejacobs5735
      @germaniejacobs5735 5 лет назад +3

      @@michelewalburn4376 they didn't have curtains in the front window. If she put Janice to bed at 7pm that would give someone the chance to walk around to the house and get in through the basement and her not hear anything. 15 minutes later, she's upstairs with no real way to escape without getting past whoever it was. Definitely a setup. Murder mystery solved by people on RUclips.

    • @michelewalburn4376
      @michelewalburn4376 5 лет назад +5

      I just read an article about this case. It was an interview with Rozalyn Rasmussen. She was the older child that they took with them to the game. It is in the Last Crosse Tribune. I take back my comment about her dad. I don't believe that now. She went into more detail about how paranoid her parents became. That man never got over that. He felt responsible for having get babysit. She talks about how that impacted her life. It's a very good read.

  • @anjachan
    @anjachan 4 года назад +2

    maybe it was someone who knew the parents wont be there but the babysitter. Maybe he/they really wanted the other babysitter but took her since she saw them. I think it could be more than just one person.

  • @michellenava6850
    @michellenava6850 5 лет назад +1

    I love your vids , keep it going❤️💖

  • @vorze6571
    @vorze6571 5 лет назад +1

    well. this reminds me of my uncle which is my mother little brother.
    in 1980s. my grandma gave birth to a little boy named tirta. but few months after she gave birth. my grandma relative wants to take care of my uncle. my grandma gave a note to her. : introduce me to the child once he was big.
    well my grandma met him once a week maybe? idk... until that she never see her child ever again.
    well she got a news that her relative sold her child. but its weird that she never report it to police. and chose to find it herself. until now my grandma died in 2015 not knowing where her child at... if my uncle is alive he would have been 30s. very sad actually. also my grandma relative died at 2016-2017 ish. i wish i could meet my uncle.

  • @hannahcourts4347
    @hannahcourts4347 5 лет назад +1

    I love all of ur videos

  • @GunsNSunflowers
    @GunsNSunflowers 4 года назад +2

    Can you do a video on the murder of Clara Bates? It's a local case in my town that not many people know about

  • @selenasalazar109
    @selenasalazar109 5 лет назад +2

    🚨🚨🚨🚨 Please do the case of Trudy Appleby she was also from Illinois but not the Windy City. She was abducted in Moline, IL and the case is still open it’s small town that gets no attention.

    • @BLincoln2024
      @BLincoln2024 5 лет назад

      Selena Salazar never heard of this case but live about an hour and a half south of Moline...crazy

  • @7614Kids
    @7614Kids 4 года назад

    I live 25 miles away n never have heard of this... I'm 38 years old n always lived around lax

  • @SeareanMoon
    @SeareanMoon 5 лет назад +3

    horrible thought, but maybe the original babysitter accidentally mentioned something thinking the family would be gone because she was not babysitting and the men took the chance... not realizing it was her causal comment, like outside a shop to a friend not noticing the man listening in that the house would be empty...
    yikes,her poor mom, she must never have forgiven herself for not trusting her feeling! I hope they get closure and healing...

  • @kittenneedles9590
    @kittenneedles9590 5 лет назад +1

    I wonder if the farmer could have been the third person mentioned on the cassette? It does sound like he was involved but it also does seem like there would have been more than one person involved in taking her. I think given one of her shoes was found in the basement that they left through the window. That would have been much more likely to happen with two people, maybe one waiting outside. Then the third was driving, doing laps of the area and meeting them back at a specified place and time.

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 5 лет назад

      That’s what I was thinking. It could be possible the farmer and the taped conversation are connected.

  • @rediris347
    @rediris347 2 года назад

    I've seen other small documentaries about this case. And what confuses me is, OK, the bad guy came in through an unlocked basement window to kidnap the babysitter. Why did he take the babysitter back out the basement window? Wouldn't it have been much easier to open the front door and walk out? Or open the back door and walk out? But he took her back down to the basement and through that small window. It makes absolutely no sense.

  • @FayeBush381
    @FayeBush381 5 лет назад +3

    This is a sad case. I share the same birthday with her. I will be praying for more answers in this case. God knows the truth and u pray he will show us the truth soon so her family can have closers.

  • @cynthiagibson2286
    @cynthiagibson2286 3 года назад +1

    I dont think ed left his comfort zone very much

  • @MissLady-pq4hc
    @MissLady-pq4hc 3 года назад

    Thank you for sharing. 💙💙💙👍🏼

  • @Anna-vl8qc
    @Anna-vl8qc 2 года назад +2

    Did the police look for Evelyn where the men on tape in the bar said she was?????

  • @kimwells7245
    @kimwells7245 5 месяцев назад +1

    I also have a theory nobody's mentioned on any video yet. Since the screams were heard at 7:15 pm and 7:15 pm is the time she was to put the blanket on the baby, logic would say that she went to the baby's bedroom to put the blanket on the baby at 7:15 but as she entered the baby's bedroom, the men were already in there waiting for her. She never got to put the blanket on the baby because the men startled her and she screamed. This would explain the screams the neighbors heard at 7:15 pm and it would explain why the baby was not covered at 7:15 pm. I suspect the men entered the home through that basement window and made their way up to the baby's bedroom and sat in wait for the babysitter to come into the room at 7:15 pm. I suspect they had been sitting by the window listening to the mother giving the instructions to the babysitter about putting the baby down for bed at 7: 00 pm and then going back in at 7:15 pm to cover her. So the men, having heard this conversation through the window, snuck in through the basement window and made their way to the baby's bedroom between the time she put the baby down at 7: 00 pm and 7:15 pm. This happened unbeknownst to the babysitter that they had entered the home and went up to the baby's bedroom. Then they waited till 7:15 pm. When she entered the baby's room at 7:15 pm to cover her up, they grabbed her, startling her and she screamed and the baby was never covered with the blanket.

  • @anastasiagirl1342
    @anastasiagirl1342 5 лет назад +1

    Yay! A new video!

  • @emilyfrancis8243
    @emilyfrancis8243 5 лет назад +5

    *reads the title*
    Hehe Hartley a trace that's so punny... I'm gonna be thinking about this for the next hour 😂

  • @jimmymilam3369
    @jimmymilam3369 5 лет назад +4

    For those that dont know Ed Guin (Guien dont know how its spelled) he is the inspiration for Leatherface

    • @reneeandrews7546
      @reneeandrews7546 5 лет назад

      Gein

    • @jimmymilam3369
      @jimmymilam3369 5 лет назад

      @@reneeandrews7546 thank you i dont know why but in my mind there are like 5 different ways to spell it

    • @ashleymcconnell3369
      @ashleymcconnell3369 5 лет назад +1

      I just watched a RUclips video on him a couple of days ago.

    • @heathernikki5734
      @heathernikki5734 5 лет назад +1

      And Psycho aka Norman Bates

  • @bonniijo
    @bonniijo 5 лет назад

    Please make longer videos!!!☺️☺️☺️

  • @Goldnfoxx
    @Goldnfoxx 5 лет назад

    1. I'm legitimately curious how many people buy shoes (then or now) based on what the intended function of the shoe /vs/ things like comfort or just having the right size in stock. I can't remember the last time I actually said, "I'm going to be walking; I need to buy a walking shoe." But either way, it sounds like the thing that is circumstantial, at best. The kind of thing where you find the guy by other means and then when you find out he was in the right profession for them it's a nice bonus.
    2. I have no idea what the state of CSI was in the 1950s, but surely they could've figured out the general weight of the person who left the footprint by way of either plaster casting, or if that didn't exist yet, a slide rule and a keen eye.
    3. The tape recording story is downright bizarre. Did he say what year said recording was made? Is it weird he was listening to the recording AND happened to know about the case when the name popped up on the recording? Is it weird that he was let into a venue of any sort with a damn tape recorder? I mean, an old mini-cassette "note-to-self" type recorder, sure. Either way, by 2004, even I could've faked that one easily.
    4. I know you mentioned DNA at some point in this video, but what you actually said already slipped my mind and I can't seem to find it scrubbing through, so I'll just say that with that much blood on a pair of shoes and denim jacket that surely DNA testing of one variety or another should be on the table at this point? Reverse genealogy seems to be gaining a ton of momentum lately in solving old cases like this.
    5. Random thoughts: I think it's a safe bet that robbery wasn't the motive. Maybe it's just my complete lack of experience in this sort of thing, but while I've heard a billion times about criminals making a murder scene look like a robbery, I've never heard of it going the other way. I can't imagine anyone killing a human being and then not grabbing at least a few things from the house for the trouble. I seriously doubt that this happening on homecoming night is a coincidence, either. And while that makes the robbery theory more logical, it still doesn't make sense that nothing was stolen if that's the case. If they panicked upon having to kill someone, they would've just left the body and run, not dragged her two blocks away and risk being seen. The fact that only someone several houses away hears her scream and not her next-door-neighbors is...interesting, but between sunset and the time her dad shows up to check on her is several hours, and being homecoming night, who knows if the neighbors were even home at the time it would've taken place.
    Also, can't help but sigh at your inability to even talk about Ed Gein without getting demonetized. Not that you'd need to, it's just a sad state of affairs that you'd even have to consider such things.

  • @Cinder526
    @Cinder526 4 года назад +2

    It's almost like they knew the babysitter's routine. Chances are they knew the original babysitter, but maybe didn't know she wouldn't be babysitting that night. I also wonder if she didn't scream at the house so she wouldn't wake the baby, for fear that they would hurt the baby as well.

    • @julz3tt3
      @julz3tt3 Год назад

      That seems possible. They may not have known there was a baby they just took her inbetween burglaries which, I think was the original intention.

  • @49kay
    @49kay 4 года назад

    I hope they find out about this.. I live in LaCrosse area very close. .