If none of you guys never heard Griffin - Flight of the Griffin, you need to check it out. In my opinion is one of the best epic uspm albums of 1984. Also Purgatory - Tied to the tracks another killer album no one ever talks about. Great video as always guys.
I haven’t heard either band. I am admittedly deficient in NWOBHM knowledge. I appreciate the style, especially the the classic bands, but I’m not into it enough to go on a massive dive. Thanks for watching!
@@HeavyMetallurgy Hi Marty, If you like Omen, you should like Griffin. They are epic US power metal from 1984. they were on Shrapnel records. Ask Aaron Metal Theologian he likes them. And Purgatory are from Ohio, Speed/Thrash metal on Auburn Records 1986. Take care.
Missed this last night. Nice to see a NWOBHM band covered on the Wednesday night show. I much prefer the version of Cloven Hoof on their debut EP "The Opening Ritual" and the first self-titled album. It was far more of a sound that we associate with the NWOBHM. Dominator is a very good album for sure, but the band was entirely different. They were effectively TREDAGAR under the Cloven Hoof name, as vocalist Russ North and the two guitar players had just come over from that band. Musically and sound-wise, Dominator always reminds me a lot of SATAN during their BLIND FURY era as Russ North has a lot of that Lou Taylor operatic epic style in his vocals and the music has a similar quasi-power metal feel to it.
Hi Frank! We try to hit upon all the sub-genres in the album club. I haven’t heard any of the other albums, but it seems like this is a band plagued by line up changes and being behind the times because of it. Thanks for watching!
Howdy Marty! You're 100% correct. They were behind the times very quickly with their debut album in 1984. The sound was very 1980. Kinda like early Raven and Venom but slowed down a bit. So many NWOBHM bands were competing in a very crowded field that it took them that long to get it out on the shelves. Lee Payne tells a story about meeting both Rob Halford and Robert Plant. He gave them his Cloven Hoof demo tape which they in turn gave to Tommy Vance of the BBC Friday Rock Show. That boldness on his part secured them a slot on the show, which in turn helped them get a recording contract with Neat Records. Of course, a record contract with Neat really didn't mean much more than a recording session and mixing time in the studio along with a handful of records to sell.
I’m sitting here and asking myself why it is that I’m not overly interested in hearing either one of the albums. I’ve heard a track off of each and was underwhelmed. We shall see. You’re probably right.
@HeavyMetallurgy the blood incantation is heavy on prog rock. It is almost 50%. Challenging listening for not prog fans. Actually surprised by how many people liked it. The Opeth is very very good. Heavy, melodic, progy and melancholic when it needs to be. Progness is adventurous and interesting, not boring as post 2000 Dream Theater. Well balanced and composed album. Will score very high on my end of the year list
Sometimes I'm not sure about all of the material on hese two albums, but I gotta say I just love Russ North's voice, at least on these 80s recordings. Apparently the guy really fell of live in recent years due to alcoholism or something.
Interesting album by an interesting second tier band. Musically, I think it's much better than Marty thinks, but of course not anywhere near the level of the top bands of the time. Overall, they position themselves somewhere between the sci-fi aesthetics of Maiden's "Somewhere in Time", Queensrÿche and 80s US-style Power Metal à la Jag Panzer or Virgin Steel, while still keeping their NWOBHM roots present. However, the production doesn't work for me in this style at all, not like it does in comparatively Epic Metal à la Manilla Road, where such a super low-budget process can bring with it a certain quirky sympathy factor. Rather, it not only deprives the overall result of any dynamics, but also lets the undoubtedly existing musical and technical class sink into a mess of epic proportions.
Hi Mike! I don’t dislike the music. The band does a solid job. The music is just very pedestrian for the time. They put all their stock in the talent of their singer. Again… not a bad thing. I agree with you on the sound. It’s too loose. Sounds low budget, in a bad way and it doesn’t suit what they’re doing. Thanks for watching!
@@Goatscythe Agreed. With Russ North, they kinda sounded like a lot of other bands, but that original lineup had a more unique, albeit somewhat dated sound.
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If none of you guys never heard Griffin - Flight of the Griffin, you need to check it out. In my opinion is one of the best epic uspm albums of 1984. Also Purgatory - Tied to the tracks another killer album no one ever talks about. Great video as always guys.
Griffin is awesome! Haven't heard of Purgatory, I'll have to check that one out.
I haven’t heard either band. I am admittedly deficient in NWOBHM knowledge. I appreciate the style, especially the the classic bands, but I’m not into it enough to go on a massive dive. Thanks for watching!
@@HeavyMetallurgy Hi Marty, If you like Omen, you should like Griffin. They are epic US power metal from 1984. they were on Shrapnel records. Ask Aaron Metal Theologian he likes them. And Purgatory are from Ohio, Speed/Thrash metal on Auburn Records 1986. Take care.
Missed this last night. Nice to see a NWOBHM band covered on the Wednesday night show.
I much prefer the version of Cloven Hoof on their debut EP "The Opening Ritual" and the first self-titled album. It was far more of a sound that we associate with the NWOBHM. Dominator is a very good album for sure, but the band was entirely different. They were effectively TREDAGAR under the Cloven Hoof name, as vocalist Russ North and the two guitar players had just come over from that band. Musically and sound-wise, Dominator always reminds me a lot of SATAN during their BLIND FURY era as Russ North has a lot of that Lou Taylor operatic epic style in his vocals and the music has a similar quasi-power metal feel to it.
Hi Frank! We try to hit upon all the sub-genres in the album club. I haven’t heard any of the other albums, but it seems like this is a band plagued by line up changes and being behind the times because of it. Thanks for watching!
Howdy Marty!
You're 100% correct. They were behind the times very quickly with their debut album in 1984. The sound was very 1980. Kinda like early Raven and Venom but slowed down a bit. So many NWOBHM bands were competing in a very crowded field that it took them that long to get it out on the shelves.
Lee Payne tells a story about meeting both Rob Halford and Robert Plant. He gave them his Cloven Hoof demo tape which they in turn gave to Tommy Vance of the BBC Friday Rock Show. That boldness on his part secured them a slot on the show, which in turn helped them get a recording contract with Neat Records. Of course, a record contract with Neat really didn't mean much more than a recording session and mixing time in the studio along with a handful of records to sell.
The high roller records remastered version sounds better then the heavy metal records original Pressing.
High Roller is such a great label, totally dedicated to the music. Thanks for watching!
Great episode guys. What about a battle between the new Blood Incantation and the new Opeth? might pump up the view count
I’m sitting here and asking myself why it is that I’m not overly interested in hearing either one of the albums. I’ve heard a track off of each and was underwhelmed. We shall see. You’re probably right.
@HeavyMetallurgy the blood incantation is heavy on prog rock. It is almost 50%. Challenging listening for not prog fans. Actually surprised by how many people liked it.
The Opeth is very very good. Heavy, melodic, progy and melancholic when it needs to be. Progness is adventurous and interesting, not boring as post 2000 Dream Theater. Well balanced and composed album. Will score very high on my end of the year list
Sometimes I'm not sure about all of the material on hese two albums, but I gotta say I just love Russ North's voice, at least on these 80s recordings. Apparently the guy really fell of live in recent years due to alcoholism or something.
Well that sucks to hear. This album is decent for sure, but nothing ground breaking. Russ is indeed the shining star on it. Thanks for watching!
Interesting album by an interesting second tier band. Musically, I think it's much better than Marty thinks, but of course not anywhere near the level of the top bands of the time. Overall, they position themselves somewhere between the sci-fi aesthetics of Maiden's "Somewhere in Time", Queensrÿche and 80s US-style Power Metal à la Jag Panzer or Virgin Steel, while still keeping their NWOBHM roots present. However, the production doesn't work for me in this style at all, not like it does in comparatively Epic Metal à la Manilla Road, where such a super low-budget process can bring with it a certain quirky sympathy factor. Rather, it not only deprives the overall result of any dynamics, but also lets the undoubtedly existing musical and technical class sink into a mess of epic proportions.
Hi Mike! I don’t dislike the music. The band does a solid job. The music is just very pedestrian for the time. They put all their stock in the talent of their singer. Again… not a bad thing. I agree with you on the sound. It’s too loose. Sounds low budget, in a bad way and it doesn’t suit what they’re doing. Thanks for watching!
Y'all should hear them rip off Halford songs on their "Who Mourns For The Morningstar" album.
I liked Dominator, but I doubt I’d dig deeper into their catalog. Thanks for watching!
Dominator is okay. But for Cloven Hoof, it's all about the self-titled debut album. The Russ North era is good, but lacks the power of the debut.
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Agreed. With Russ North, they kinda sounded like a lot of other bands, but that original lineup had a more unique, albeit somewhat dated sound.
The power came from their Hanna Barbara icecapades outfits! Haha. Thanks for watching!
@@HeavyMetallurgy Hahaaaa, that's brutal!
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Hanna Barbera approached the band about a potential cartoon deal. They plan was to call it The Power Strangers.