N64 Repair - No soldering required, just sandpaper

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @BoCarlson
    @BoCarlson 2 года назад +30

    The N64 heatsync has alignment marks on everything so you can assemble the whole thing outside of the case then pop it on and it will be fine. I also swap out those old grey pads for new blue thermal pads since that material is 20+ years old and doesn't cover the whole chip. 1mm thermal pads work fine.

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +13

      I am stocked with several thicknesses of thermal pads by Arctic (0.5mm to 1.5mm) but they are a bit pricey so I typically only change them on systems with a bad reputation for heating issues, or when they are degraded from the system being taken apart too many times. But indeed it's a good idea to replace them on a full restoration.

  • @Mighty_Mighty_D
    @Mighty_Mighty_D Год назад +3

    The sandpaper in the drill was absolutely brilliant.

  • @brandonkick
    @brandonkick 2 года назад +2

    Great work! The N64 is a great system :) and I'm glad to see this one saved. You got a nice deal on that parts lot!
    As someone else already mentioned, you don't need to remove the heat spreader and all those screws, you can pull the entire top shield off removing only the two screws around the AV port, the power port, the six screws around the outside edges, the two longer screws near the cart slot, the two tiny screws near the expansion port slot and finally the two offset screws with the lock washers on them. Then separate the shield by from the board in the top corner near the power connector. Once it's cracked free, simply pivot the shield from the front side of the console to the back. It will come free entirely, and no damage to either ram chip which only have contacts on one side with the other side having only those tiny little ground legs. Put the whole unit on in reverse order, front to back. It'll sit right down.
    LOVE the idea of using the fibreglass pen and the drill! Cleaned them puppies right up! I agree too though, take safety precautions. You do NOT want to breath that stuff in nor get it on your skin, Painful. Very painful.
    The N64 is in general pretty robust. Usually, if one doesn't work... its because of a dirty cart connector where the game seats in, a dirty port where the jumper pak / expansion pak sits (or the jumper / expansion pak itself is dirty... or both) or because the game simply isn't working. I tell people to ALWAYS clean the cart slot, clean the games, and clean the jumper pak area. If the system still won't boot, try another game. Very very rarely is it ever something like a faulty chip or bad capacitor (though it can be bad caps sometimes, just rare).
    I bath those N64 boards. I pull the cart slot off and bath the whole thing. Scrub with a soft bristle brush. Scrub the plastic housing for the controller ports, scrub the shell. Unless the console is very filthy, I try not to submerge the shell, so the labels do not get ruined. It's a shame the motherboard serial numbers are wrote on there with that sorta dry erase stuff that wipes right off....
    Great work, lots of good stuff in that lot!

  • @jcon6734
    @jcon6734 2 года назад +6

    If you have a thoroughly borked controller, you can cut the plug off and strip the wires back a little bit. By plugging the cable into the console and checking continuity between the wires and solder points on the motherboard, you can quickly and easily confirm or rule out problems with the ports.

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +6

      I actually have controller extension cables, which I could have used to do a continuity test as you suggest but it didn't cross my mind. Great suggestion.

  • @codyisrude
    @codyisrude 2 года назад +2

    sometimes it's just moisture damage
    my og xbox had a similar issue when i got it from a flea market
    the shield was all rusted and bad so i cleaned it all up cleaned the mobo disc drive and all that checked the caps replaced the thermal paste it still works to this day

  • @GoodVibeCollecting
    @GoodVibeCollecting 2 года назад +8

    The N Six Four is a beast and pretty reliable. The only thing that really goes wrong with them is a dirty pin connector or the controller ports get corroded. Occasionally one of the IC pins lift up or get corroded but that's been pretty uncommon in my experience. I never thought about using a fiberglass pen with a drill but damn those controller pins look brand new again.

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +2

      I will admit it's a little out there but I liked it better than the sandpaper. More gentle on the pins especially because all I had was 220 grit which is quite coarse on metal.

    • @crimesforkibble6912
      @crimesforkibble6912 2 года назад +2

      I once had a disgruntled ex girlfriend fling my N64 control deck off a five story balcony it cracked the hell out of the shell but otherwise was completely unscathed and worked perfectly she was hit by a bus a couple years later but she survived I like to think hitman mario pushed her in front of that bus

    • @GoodVibeCollecting
      @GoodVibeCollecting 2 года назад

      @@crimesforkibble6912 Karma. Also, that situation is why I live the single life.

  • @charlieg6913
    @charlieg6913 Год назад +4

    Sticking the sandpaper and the fiberglass pen into the drill was pretty genius. Nice work dude! 😀

  • @lookitskazzy
    @lookitskazzy 2 года назад +9

    Congrats on the fix. A few things to note when working on these:
    You don't need to remove all those screws for the heatsink, just warm it up and it'll come off in one piece.
    You don't want to run an N64 for too long without the heat spreader attached, it can kill the RDP.
    220 grit (sandpaper in general) is for refinishing, not for electrical work. Good call on switching to the fiberglass pen. Sandpaper is a nuclear option and should be avoided as much as possible.
    Totally agree with your suggestion to wear gloves and avoid touching the fiberglass shavings. You don't want that stuff in your skin, it really sucks. Like a thousand little splinters.
    And props for NOT USING BRASSO.

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      Thanks for the suggestions. What's the deal with Brasso? I've never used it. A few folks here suggested it but I'm not familiar with it.

    • @johnpappas6497
      @johnpappas6497 2 года назад

      Brasso has been around since the dawn of time. It's used to clean metal. It's mainly a British thing (don't ever remember seeing it across the pond). I've never used it on electricals.

    • @kenabi
      @kenabi Год назад

      the older formula of brasso would be fine, its a muuuuch finer grit, but its also a pain to clean out of some areas, and you'd really need to deep clean something like the controller ports to get it all out (or toss it in an ultrasonic).
      that said, brasso wouldn't be ideal here, even if you just put some on a pipe cleaner.
      the new formulas seems to be a heavier grit, and doesn't 'cut' as well as the old one, so you really just seem to get scratches in softer materials, while the old one cleanly polished if you did it right.
      as for what it actually is; petroleum based liquid/paste abrasive polishing compound. it has its place in cleaning up some contacts, but older consoles? not really. though it might clean up those rusty shields nicely if you have a buffing wheel handy.
      as for being available across the pond, i'm about as far from the uk as one can get without being in the ocean, and its on the shelves of almost every hardware store i could care to name around me, and some general purpose ones.

  • @randomsporadicprojects8941
    @randomsporadicprojects8941 2 года назад +20

    Awesome :) I'm not sure I could argue about "Borderline" but I absolutely enjoy your videos. Thank you - very enjoyable videos

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +4

      Ha, let's just call it a labor of love.

  • @yulopiari1
    @yulopiari1 2 года назад +3

    Very cool idea for the controller ports.

  • @elbarry7016
    @elbarry7016 Год назад

    Pal, the way you clean and revive broken/damaged/issued consoles with that tone of voice, its almost therapeutical. Suscribed and amazing tricks like that one with the sandpaper.

  • @28DAYS77
    @28DAYS77 2 года назад +4

    Getting an N64 to live again well-done great console

  • @codyisrude
    @codyisrude 2 года назад +7

    people often crap on the N64 for lacking third party support but if there ever was a console that really says games are what nintendo is all about the N64 would be it so many first party games worth a damn on this thing
    nintendos first party lineup is unbeatable

  • @usdms13
    @usdms13 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video once again. I really liked the fiberglass pen hack. I recently got an N64 with no video. Jumper pack pins were badly wore down. Added solder to pads and works until I get a replacement. I also replaced thermal pads and added Arctic MX4 to top of heat sinks and bottom of heat spreader. Temps were around 85f to 90f. now peak around 105f on the spreader. May be anecdotal but seems to be displacing heat more efficiently now.

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 2 года назад +8

    Just reading the titles scares me a bit lol xD

  • @G_W_U
    @G_W_U 2 года назад +7

    i have been enjoying watching your videos , its giving me the confidence to try out repairs of my own, i bought a mega drive on ebay claimed working but no power and the power connector just needed reflowing

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +2

      Glad to hear it! Indeed many "no power" faults are things like a faulty power adapter or a broken power connector. Once you fix a system or two then you get the itch to keep at it :)

  • @younes474
    @younes474 Год назад

    Seeing a revived ultra64 fills my hearth with joy

  • @samyhx896
    @samyhx896 2 года назад +3

    From all the consoles I've worked on I must say the N64 is one of the most well built and reliable. They almost never break and when they do, it's pretty easy to fix.

  • @jmac79ers
    @jmac79ers 2 года назад

    I've had this problem with a few older consoles. I will usually douse a cheap controller/controller extension with isopropyl, then push it in and out a bunch, then wipe, repeat until black crap stops coming off on the cloth or cotton swabs.

  • @CharlesHepburn2
    @CharlesHepburn2 Год назад

    Two words come to mind when I watch you work... careful diligence. Just thought I'd share that. Thanks for the video.

  • @wallyf7020
    @wallyf7020 2 года назад +6

    Another great restoration video. Always wonderful to watch your videos, you explain everything perfectly

  • @shanez1215
    @shanez1215 2 года назад +2

    The nice thing about old Nintendo consoles is that they use so little power that they don't really break in ways that are completely unfixable.
    I grabbed one for 37 bucks shipped and then got a jumper pack + cables for about 25. All I had to do was disassemble it and scrub the whole board, the cartridge port was absolutely disgusting. After reassembling it booted right up.

  • @SeekingTheTriple
    @SeekingTheTriple 2 года назад +1

    My buds got an n64 with picky controller ports and i might tell him to try this now

  • @chikoavena3407
    @chikoavena3407 2 года назад +1

    thats a really cool technique!

  • @BMR86
    @BMR86 2 года назад +2

    it's like keeping gaming history alive! I can see myself in your shoes and how trying to fix something might feel like spiraling downward hopelessly and very frustrating but it's so satisfying when you find the root cause and actually fix the system! awesome skill! your videos always inspire me to get back at attempting to fix my old consoles!

  • @jackburton8352
    @jackburton8352 2 года назад +3

    Amazing for sure i thought you had a bad i/o chip

  • @KitDoctor
    @KitDoctor Год назад

    Dude, that was an ingenious fix. Well done. I'm new to your channel and also appreciated the sped up disassembly and assembly

  • @peterford9369
    @peterford9369 Год назад

    I love your professionalism. You're very dedicated to a professional outcome.👍👍

  • @subzerosystemx
    @subzerosystemx Год назад

    New life given to the n64 console

  • @theexile4694
    @theexile4694 2 года назад +1

    Dude, I love your videos man. Always great to watch, listen to, etc.
    Thank you for the videos.

  • @HellScream107
    @HellScream107 2 года назад +1

    Another great repair/restoration and helpful pointers. I hope you get much use out of that N64.

  • @Awas79
    @Awas79 Год назад

    Actually love this channel man, stumbled across it some how and your content is sooo frkn good

  • @webbedshadow2601
    @webbedshadow2601 7 месяцев назад

    I'm now regretting all the times I blew on my N64 games, cartridge slot, controllers, and controller ports as a kid, no wonder my jungle green N64 doesn't detect controllers sometimes and isn't playing games right! might be corroded and dirty, thank you for showing how to clean everything and what tools to use!

  • @AfterBurnerTeirusu
    @AfterBurnerTeirusu 2 года назад +4

    From my own experience, most broken N64 just have dirty expansion slots. The entire console turns off if the connection is iffy. (Sometimes with some funny graphical corruptions) This one was a bit dirtier.

  • @74bobby
    @74bobby 2 года назад

    Another Great Video. Glad You got this up and Running again...

  • @horrorableshow
    @horrorableshow Год назад

    Dude this was so awesome! Nicely done!!

  • @gregjarvis1232
    @gregjarvis1232 2 года назад +1

    The back of play 1 and 2 controller port and the power switch still looked like they had a lot of corrosion around them
    Also those sounds sounded like they came out of 80's cartoons or kids shows

  • @jerretschmidt4555
    @jerretschmidt4555 2 года назад +1

    KISS method. Keep it simple stupid. Even the simple fixes I enjoy watching.
    Most accessory switches, like window and mirrors, in older cars can be fixed like this if not working. Pop them apart and spray them down with cleaner and shine up the contacts. Usually work afterwards and last a long time.

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +1

      Hadn't heard that acronym before, nice! From the great minds at Lockheed themselves apparently.

  • @mikuneverdies6288
    @mikuneverdies6288 Год назад

    that N64 looks so much happier ;)~

  • @robertrft
    @robertrft Год назад

    You could use a multimeter in continuity mode and touch the solder point on the motherboard and then around the pins in question.

  • @LCDLCD-cl2qp
    @LCDLCD-cl2qp 2 года назад +1

    Good methods , me I have desoldering and put on ultrasonics bath .

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +1

      Does it work well for corroded contacts? I'd like to own an ultrasonic cleaner at some point, but I don't see myself finding enough uses to justify getting one.

  • @DustinLBooher
    @DustinLBooher Год назад

    That towel should have folded itself. I think it's learned it's lesson.

  • @StefanPiano
    @StefanPiano Год назад

    I've found that the grounding shield for the Jumper Pak slot is not present in some earlier models. I've opened up several that didn't have them, never been opened before. Yesterday I got a new system to fix and that one did have an extra bit of metal near the Jumper Pak slot as well as another set of 2 screws with the toothed spacer to the left and right of the Jumper Pak slot.
    This is not really a matter of it missing due to someone opening it up and losing, it was just never present in the console to begin with. Only with later revisions did it get added, just like those extra screws.

  • @SpikerDragon95
    @SpikerDragon95 2 года назад +2

    I was having something similar with a 1992 Nissan forklift that didnt start or show any warning lights in the cluster, turns out the main concector between the cluster and the body of the forklift have the same green-ish oxidation in the contacts, after some contact cleaner and sandpaper the forklift came back to life and start again

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +1

      Ha, now that's a different order of magnitude altogether in terms of project size.

  • @jeremyalaniz
    @jeremyalaniz Год назад

    8:00 “Well at least we haven’t made it worse” 😂😂😂😂

  • @glassvial
    @glassvial 2 года назад

    I'm surprised it's not the backside of those controller ports that was causing the issue, they looked very corroded/green. I agree with you though, this thing was probably stored in a damp basement hence all that corrosion everywhere. If I was the OCD one, I'd be using Evapo-Rust on any rusted metal in that thing and cleaning any corrosion I could find, but looks like you got it working, and that's what matters.

  • @djmystareez5961
    @djmystareez5961 Год назад

    That was amazing! Thank you you clever sausage ❤

  • @randomretroplays3123
    @randomretroplays3123 2 года назад

    You genius you 😁👍. Great fix. I love your videos because they are very educational . Huge like 👍⭐

  • @SinistarPro_Mike
    @SinistarPro_Mike 2 года назад

    Very nice indeed! I was thinking maybe corrosion or cigarette smoke was the culprit.

  • @Jdbye
    @Jdbye 2 года назад

    Judging by how corroded the power switch and cartridge slot look in particular, compared to how clean most of the metal shielding looks, I'd probably say it's had something spilled over top of it that got into the cracks. If it was just due to being stored in a humid area there should be more even corrosion all over. The corrosion in the controller ports is probably just due to age and humidity though.

  • @deltonviera2051
    @deltonviera2051 2 года назад +1

    Great video 😀

  • @vall545
    @vall545 2 года назад

    Great work! Love this channel. Learn so much 👏🏼

  • @Campinis
    @Campinis Год назад

    Nice work man...

  • @douglasmetal
    @douglasmetal Год назад

    Dude, you are the best... Greetings from Brasil.

  • @acalavidyaraja
    @acalavidyaraja Год назад

    nice easy fix. i enjoy your content. subscribed.

  • @ryangilson9391
    @ryangilson9391 Год назад

    Had to have been a DKOldies N64 at some point looking like that

  • @countandy3066
    @countandy3066 Год назад +1

    Nothing wrong with hillbillies, they have clever ways of making things work, don't hate!

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  Год назад

      I have nothing but love for my redneck brethren 😉

    • @countandy3066
      @countandy3066 Год назад

      @@BorderlineOCD Ha! Just kidding, I know by the way you solve problems you love us rednecks. Your videos are brilliant! I love your channel please keep posting!

  • @gundam654
    @gundam654 2 года назад

    Crl cleaner will get that part. I had to do that on snes console years ago.

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      The corrosion build up? Never used CLR before.

  • @Auxodium
    @Auxodium 2 года назад

    yet another good video. Thanks

  • @javierr3030
    @javierr3030 2 года назад

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @RBKing80
    @RBKing80 2 года назад +1

    Did you order a BennVenn screen for your Lynx 2 ? Great video by the way

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +1

      I'm planning a Part 2 and will likely use the project as an opportunity to teach myself how to diagnose using an oscilloscope. Someone local in my area has offered to lend his working Lynx 2 for comparison readings so I can hopefully track down the root cause of the issue on my unit. There is a chance it is a bad crystal, ram or one of the two proprietary chips.

  • @Majima487
    @Majima487 11 месяцев назад

    drill with sandpaper? i thought i was the only one who did that heh amount of people saw me do it cringed, also there is no dumb ideas just great solutions ;)

  • @sadizz455
    @sadizz455 2 года назад

    When it came to controller ports, your best option would have been using a multimeter to see if there was a connection.

  • @Sa2si28
    @Sa2si28 2 года назад

    Bravo !

  • @bradleymoney07
    @bradleymoney07 Год назад

    If you decided to replace the thermal pads on the n64 can you direct me to a thermal pad that will work really well

  • @pedromimoso8804
    @pedromimoso8804 2 года назад

    Very good! 👍👍👍

  • @marclink0
    @marclink0 9 месяцев назад

    If I use the fiberglass pen (I'm assuming the blue is nylon bristles) without opening the case (I don't have a gamebit), is it fine to vaccuum only the shards that are on the outside of the console?
    I don't want to risk vacuuming on an enclosed circuit because of static, but I also don't want to risk micro-cutting myself when holding the console

  • @blueskin1978
    @blueskin1978 2 года назад

    Great video, just please clean the brown gunk on the gray plastic parts of the controller ports. 😐

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      Evidently you didn't watch the entire video 👎🏻

    • @blueskin1978
      @blueskin1978 2 года назад

      @@BorderlineOCD Hmmm they look to be clean at 15:13. I thought you did just the case but I stand corrected! Im sorry!

  • @ventrue6516
    @ventrue6516 2 года назад +1

    I know this might be irrelevant to this vid o (maybe a idea for next video), but can you fix, or did you encounter a PS2 slim with not working laser. Like there might a broken fuse what won't move the laser up and down, but the laser lights up fine?

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      There are almost a dozen fuses on the PS2 Slim, I have a couple of videos on them. From memory not sure which one is related to the optical drive. You can also test a CD-based game (a blue game disc), sometimes that will work and can be a quick way to diagnose the main laser is on its last leg.

  • @griimlock8922
    @griimlock8922 Год назад

    I got a n64 pikachu edition that I've had for 20 years give or take that needs some TLC, got a jammed ram upgrade as the top of the ram ripped off, missing the original controller, missing the front compartment lid, the av out port at the back is loose missing some stickers, scratched up to hell.....do you think it's still worth fixing?

  • @joshuaguytheproducer316
    @joshuaguytheproducer316 Год назад

    Can you help me? My N64 won't display on my CRT tv and it powers on. I've tried cleaning the game,the pins,and the jumper Pak. The av cable is oem but the power supply is aftermarket.Maybe it's the power supply causing the issue?

  • @NekoRetroGames
    @NekoRetroGames 4 месяца назад

    I have got a serious issue with my N64. I have to take off the heat sync and everything that goes with the jumper pack for the console to work, otherwise it refuses to boot. I haven't cleaned it, or re-flowned it yet. Another detail i always have to unplug evertything (PSU and Jumper pack for the console to turn on), any suggestion?

  • @chongtak
    @chongtak Год назад

    If only removed, won't rust come back if not treated properly?

  • @canibalcorps
    @canibalcorps Год назад

    i dont realy know why but the N64 is the most easyest console to repear only with cleaning.
    I was repeared lot of them only with a bottle of alcool !

  • @notmyrealname1526
    @notmyrealname1526 2 года назад

    It bothers me to no end that you sanded down the RF shield, but did nothing about the rusty cartridge connector.

  • @nubatman
    @nubatman 2 года назад +1

    One of my recent N64 repairs had the same ports buildup. I used Brasso and sandpaper to clean following up using IPA to get the gunk out. I should open it again to clean the cart port.

  • @nrpatel6
    @nrpatel6 2 года назад

    What video capture device do you use to capture footage? Thanks for posting content :)

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      A cheap USB capture card for Mac: amzn.to/2YM4TT7. It only has Composite and S-video but it works well for testing my retro consoles during repairs.

  • @Mewtwoisabeast
    @Mewtwoisabeast 2 года назад

    nice

  • @tazgamerplays
    @tazgamerplays Год назад

    Mine just randomly freezes.

  • @leighsmith2361
    @leighsmith2361 2 года назад

    what cable are you using to connect N64 to a TV?

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      The stock AV cable connected to a USB capture card.

    • @leighsmith2361
      @leighsmith2361 2 года назад

      @@BorderlineOCD I was just wondering as I can't use the stock AV cable so I've ordered an N64 to HDMI cable and waiting for it to be delivered to see if it works, thanks for letting me know 👍

  • @Bugrim
    @Bugrim 2 года назад

    Осталось поставить RGB mod👍

  • @KingPinTheBowler
    @KingPinTheBowler 2 года назад

    How do you need only sand paper to fix it

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      Evidently you did not watch the video.

    • @KingPinTheBowler
      @KingPinTheBowler 2 года назад

      Yeah but I just commented at the beginning of the video before I watched it.

  • @TheDneaves
    @TheDneaves 2 года назад

    Why shouldn't it still start and load up the game without a controller, like all other systems, that I know of do?

  • @epion26
    @epion26 2 года назад

    Never think to use a piece of sandpaper like that, sometimes I use a toothpick tip and cutted by half using brasso to cleaning controllers port, thanks for the information.

  • @jessetamburri5379
    @jessetamburri5379 2 года назад

    I enjoy your videos thoroughly, thank you. For cleaning I usually just use a tooth brush but would like to upgrade to something with a little more surface area. Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. Also I'm glad to see someone else use abrasives to get rid of corrosion, it's always worked well for me. However I always get roasted from the conse repair community for suggesting it's use

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад

      I use a boot brush and an array of paint brushes. Horse hair is best. It actually picks up flux nicely with some IPA and can be washed and reused again and again. Plastic bristle brushes are no good, they just spread the gunk around. I use them for single use (like applying the rust remover gel in this particular video) and then toss them in the trash.

    • @jessetamburri5379
      @jessetamburri5379 2 года назад

      @@BorderlineOCD awesome thank you

  • @roorman
    @roorman Год назад

    please wear a dust mask when working with fiber glass, silicosis is no joke

  • @techtomek5062
    @techtomek5062 2 года назад +2

    Wouldn't it make sense to wear a mask while doing this, as fibreglass is not so conducive to good health?

    • @BorderlineOCD
      @BorderlineOCD  2 года назад +1

      This was a pretty small project but definitely take any precautions that you feel are necessary if you are concerned about breathing any fiber dust.

  • @migue647
    @migue647 2 года назад

    great, once something similar happened to me with my sega megadrive, I used wd-40 and a toothbrush

  • @Heymrk
    @Heymrk 2 года назад

    The N64 was a trash console. A total downgrade from the greatness of the SNES.