Reason for the cue to go left after hitting the cue ball is the grip hand impacting the chest which in turn pushes the cue to the right and the tip to the left for a righthanded person. Trivially, on soft shots the impact is less than on hard shots-this explains the difference of deflection of the grip hand on impact. Also, on draw shots the effect is bigger because by having to lift the butt a bit more to hit the cb lower the chest is crowding the cue more and the grip hand impacts the chest even earlier. - Don't bother too much. Many top players show this symptom. You can weed it out bit by bit by working on a more relaxed grip all the way to the finish position and by working on further smothening your cue action. PS: elbow should be still and not move to the side before delivery… it is minor in your case but monitor this. Finally, there is no need to follow through excessively after impact (like Jasmin Ouschan does) because this is only cosmetics. Just focus on beeing relaxed on follw through and think of finishing the stroke a little bit shy of a slip stroke. // btw Mario He uses a real slip stroke on most draw shots because it gives him more way before impacting his chest with his grip hand. // so relax and good shooting… you are on track with your fundamentals!
Sorry for the late reply, but this is a great comment. I agree, and right now I'm sort of happy with the straightness. To be honest I think there are other aspects of my game that needs more attention in order to reach a higher level. But I'll throw some short periods with focus on fundamentals every now and then to tighten things up! Things are better now since this video, even! Thanks for the comment.
I agree with using a bottle to stroke through, but with a modification… I generally shoot right handed, but decided to shoot left handed this year. One of the things I noticed is my cueing is not straight, mostly horizontally. I checked my stance, alignment, etc. and cannot find much out of line to be cueing that way. My solution: I took two clear plastic water bottles (smallest diameter I had), cut them, and taped them together so both small ends were lined up and on each end. I used cardboard to raise the modified bottle to the height of my bridge hand. I started cueing slowly through one, then through both. It was a bit of a pain starting off because the bottle kept moving, but that was instant feedback for correction. Once I was cueing better, I sped up to my stroke speed while cueing through both holes. Cueing through both holes in the bottles put my focus on cueing straight. If I keep practicing this, I am confident I will cue straighter with this technique. Muscle memory: Once I started stoking through the bottle, I could feel my upper arm muscles getting sore. It did not take too long to feel my muscles getting sore. With that said, I think this method is a way of training my muscles to deliver a straight stroke. -> For those who cannot figure out why you do not stroke straight when everything else seems to be ok, try practicing this technique and you may discover a your muscles need to be “retrained” to help you perform better. - The hard part is finding something that keeps your cue straight while you practice your strokes. You can place a cardboard box on each side of your cue while cueing, as I saw in another YT video. I just find the modified bottle method easier to do at home and it can be adjusted as you see fit. You could even set the bottles up to practice a jump stroke. NOTE: This is a good time to review and work on any other stroke or stance imperfections as well. Hope it helps someone.
Step into each single shot from behind (two steps). Slightly turn your torso when going down; for right-handers, right shoulder goes up. Separate isolated upper arm backwards movement when going down from isolated lower arm movement when shooting; the latter, however, continues the former smooth and straight. Before shooting, let your head be as still as the balls lying in front of you (still head means still body). Again, shooting is isolated lower arm movement. During drawing back and shooting, don‘t loose fixation of your aiming point. Imagine the cue staying on the shot line during the swing and after contact. Loose grip, throughout the entire sequence. Think of shooting like bow shooting: the back swing requires the energy (lifting the arm), the cue then „falls“ into the aim.
Great advice. I do most of them now. The rotation/sideways approach is something I stribe after, but my neck and upper back mobility limits me to some degree. Working on it! Thanks for the comment!
Love the work! One drill I did to straighten my stroke was just stroke into a water bottle (I cut out the end so I could stroke through). Like stroke through the open cap and never hit the edge and don’t knock the bottle around. Keep it up!
I love this video because it shows how hard it is to hit straight and the ball center. It also shows how this complicates learning since one is learning for months or years how to hit cut shots and do English while one’s straight shooting improves. It shows how hard pool is. On another note, I test the straightness of my shooting by hitting the cue ball to the far cushion to let the ball rebound back to the cue stick. The product "Third Eye" describes games in its DVD to win money that rely on straight shooting.
I have the same issue, my cue goes to left, too. I am still working on this, I am doing not dropping my elbow, not to grip too hard and put the cue close to my right eye, I thought my vision center was in the middle of my face. I guess you don't find your vision center, some people said that your body will adjust automatically to where you focus on. You will fix it with your hard working, good luck.
What I noticed. 1) The top elbow moves out after your pause and before your stroke. Anticipating the shot? It is fine during your pre-strokes. 2) Your wrist is not parallel to the ground, it is bent outward; this could cause your elbow issue…and your straight stroke issue. 3) You are bending both legs, which is fine for some people, but it is harder to keep the body still with all that movement. NOTE: I also have a hard time completely stopping the cue ball on stop shots; it tends to go right or left. I think my issue is not seeing straight on the cue ball. I have been told my stroke is straight, so I figured that is what it is. Need to find my vision center and memorize it.
Try turning your knuckles towards the floor(counter-clockwise) on your grip. Not a ton. Just a bit. I got this from Break From Lifes Channel and it really helped. Experiment with it til all is well
Same here , I'm much better but on very hard shots it shows! Old school players like Mark Wilson are standing almost on the side of the shot so they don't crush the cue with their body. good work
You mentioned that your cue is steering to the left after contacting the cue ball, which seems to be the case. However, if you notice your cue ball is moving to the left of the object ball after contacting it. There are two reasons why this could be happening. 1) Your alignment is not straight. 2) You are applying unwanted right spin, making the cue ball deflect to the left. I think lots of players might have this issue (myself included) since we tend to have the habit of using outside spin to help certain shots go in. That's my analysis anyway based on my own flaws and experience. Let me know your thoughts and if you find out something interesting about your game afterwards. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the comment. I think the alignment needs to be checked, yes. I think the fact that the ball goes to the right in some of the shots, is mostly because I didn't line the balls up dead straight. The pockets are 3.9 inch, so you need to pocket them in the far side in order to not catch the point. Anyway, thanks for the comment! Have you gotten the results you wanted by analyzing your own stroke? Was it worth the effort?
Sometimes on a power stroke you might wanna be just a little higher in your stance to allow more room in the stroke under the chest for your freedom of movement
That's good advice. I know the Ko brothers talked about that in one of their videos. Working more on the stroke after this video was recorded, I realized that particular spot on the table was giving me alot more trouble than other places, and I realized it was because of fear of hitting the rail with the cue/right hand. Standing higher definitely helps with that! Any thoughts on the rail issue?
Maybe this will help. I found out the biggest key to shoot straight CONSISTENT(for me at least) is the tempo of the practice stroke before shooting. If I get down and shot without practice stroke I am shooting straight like 7/10(medium distance). Ofc the most comfortable way is with practice stroke but if I change my tempo my shotmaking is going down drastically. I also write this for other pool players, if you are the type of guy which one day makes some break and runs and barely miss and the other day you can't pocket 5 balls, maybe thats the biggest problem,not the stance, not the head placement etc, at least it was for me. Try to remember the tempo when you played the best, shoot some balls then change it and see if there is any difference; if it is, train on the tempo
Shortening your backswing will help a lot. Watch Alex Pagulayan. Jason Shaw. Joshua Filler. Even though they have a long bridge they only come back a short distance. You don’t generate power from the backswing. It comes from the forward motion.
@@PoolProblems It’s difficult to get used to at first but it’s worth the effort once you see the results. I’ll be sure to watch it. It’s good to see a fellow youtuber not shy about calling out their shortcomings and addressing them. TTYL
Been a while since your last video. I am actually drafting a video about consistency when it comes to pocketing the ball and i come across a stance issue and grip issues i am a bit busy to record it at the moment but i should be doing it soon 😅
I noticed that your grip is possibly throwing your stroke off. If you go to 4:19 in the video. You can see that your wrist is in and your knuckles are out. Your knuckles should be down and your wrist should be straight with your forearm. When you finish your stroke your knuckles are down. That is giving an unintentional twist to your stroke. I hope this helps.
Hey bud. 2 things. 1. There's a lot of emphasis (especially by instructors) on straight cueing. I think it's a valid thing to work on, but like you said, all the flaws seem to be after contact. I get pretty annoyed by those who think what happens during your follow through effects what the cueball does. It's a pretty preposterous claim, and breaks all laws of physics as we know them. Of course, you can use what's happening after contact to give you clues as to what's happening BEFORE and DURING contact, but there's no real impact on the shot. many pros have "flaws" in their strokes after contact, it's just natural- especially if you're not hitting the cueball in the center. When you're drawing the ball with more force, you're hitting harder and lower on the ball, which means the cue it deflecting off the ball (and it's weight) more and into the slate as you're following through, so OF COURSE it's gonna look like there's more flaws there. Pay attention to the cueball's movement. What the cueball does should clue you into whether it's a good hit. Simple, effective, no bullshit. 2. If you REALLY want a straighter stroke in the follow through, you can do what I did. I use a stroke slip (and made a video on it). Easily the best choice i've made for my stroke thus far. Like you, i also have a large elbow drop, and it certainly contributes to better timing and a more relaxed, smooth power. It also feels natural for me. adding a stroke slip on top of it just means my followthrough looks ridiculously long, but I'm sure that I'm driving through the cueball straight 99.9% of the time. For you, i'd suggest either trying something like that (adjusting your grip, or not gripping at all), or tweak your wrist position. Some have wrist action that curl inward (like SVB), some have wrist action that turn outwards. The reason this is impactful for guys like us with lose grips and elbow drops is because of our finger placement. Notice where your fingers are holding the cue before contact and after follow through. It's likely that they've turned somewhat (which isn't inherently bad imo), but by playing around with wrist angle, you can effectively change what part of the fingers hold the cue, changing the pressure on the back end of the cue during follow through and thereby altering it's course. Lemme know if you have questions. We have a similar style of play, so I think I get it. Also, when I cue crooked, it also goes to my left ;)
Thanks, Sensei. Your reflections show such a deep knowledge for the game (and learning in general). Like you said in 1 - the most important factor is what happens at impact, I think the consistensy in my shotmaking speaks for itself. It's become so much better, so I must be doing something right, huh? I still don't really understand how cue deflection takes place if I hit center? The cue ball is long gone right after impact, so there should be room for the cue to follow along in a straight line, shouldn't it? I was watching Fedor in his latest challenge match video from Vietnam, and his cue travels dead straight - but he's literally has the straightest stroke of all pool players, so maybe it's wrong comparing to him. Regarding the slip stroke - I'm not a fan personally, but it does happen from time to time on power draw strokes just naturally. I'll give it a try and see. Your video is of course really valuable, and I think there's a Chua draw-shot video somewhere where he demonstrates it also? Anyway: Is it work dwelling on details in the stroke or do you think I should just focus more on playing "real pool"? I know players that probably have worse fundamentals than me that are at a much higher skill level just because they get the job done - pocket the ball, get position, repeat.
@@PoolProblems on 1: I’m saying that the cue veering to the left is more dramatic on draw shots, not center ball hits. That’s because the cue is rubbing off the slate. Of course this means that your cue is veering off to the left anyways regardless, I was just stating that it’s more prominent during draw shots for that reason. I’ve worked really hard on not trying to copy pro players because I used to do it a lot. Fedor has the straightest cueing in all of pool, so yeah comparing to him (and copying him) might not be the most useful. Though I do think that understanding the elements of what pro players do well and implementing those characteristics into your “natural” game is very beneficial. As for what you should work on…I’m unsure. For some folks, working on their cueing make an enormous impact, and for some, the focus needs to be elsewhere. I’m not really a coach, and haven’t spent a ton of time looking at your game so I don’t think I could tell you what to focus on. I can tell you that for MY game, my recent improvements in competition have come from the mental side of the game. In terms of practice and physical skill training, my improvements have come from building good habits and maintaining similar focus through all shots. The through-line there is all about intent. What do I intend to do and how do I intend for the balls to behave? Every decision should be made to satisfy those intentions, and the quality follows. Thanks for the kind words. 💪🏼 let’s both keep working.
Consider aligning your stroke arm to be inline with your head. It seems your elbow position is a bit right of your head and your hand on the stroke isn't coming down straight, it's inward to your body. Practice Infront a mirror. Watch your line with backhand to elbow head and shot line. Keep in mind you want your vision center on the shot line. In short it can be a stance issue.
From what i can see, your first error come when aligning. You are aligning across the ball. And what i mean by that is your head is too far left (our perspective and too far right on your perspective). That causes your cue to be offline to start with and then you seem to kinda work that out when feathering. But at the time of stroke the problem occurs more because you have to go around your chest to get follow through.
The vision alignment is something I've altered a bit back and forth. Actually I've gone more back after this video, so it could be a thing. Things are better now, but swooping still occurs. The biggest issue seems to be the clearance of the chest, like you say. Working on it! Thanks for the comment!
@@PoolProblems Yes, the swooping occurs because chest clearance. But have you thought what causes the chest to be in the way? One thing could be your stance, but for what i could see in your video it didnt look that bad. But it could be it. But if the case is, as i think it might, you align yourself too far to right of the actual line of aim, and then you automatically have that chest clearance issue to deal with even with proper stance.
@@PoolProblemswatch your video again, and stop the vid exactly at 0:27. At that moment if you have aligned yourself properly, you should be online already.
Yes, what seems to help is cueing slightly more out, like maybe aligning towards the toes of the right foot, instead of the heel. Also, more twisting of the trunk, not moving the right elbow out on the backstroke. Alot of things 😅 here's the latest update I recorded before taking a break from the isolated fundamental work ruclips.net/video/x9sd_dfhUqc/видео.html What do you think?
you're right arm/ shoulder moves to the right just before you stoke the cueball. keep an eye on it from 1.31 of the video. you'll see that it moves ever so slighly before you execute your shot
You are left eye dominate and right handed. Your stroke needs to be inline with your visual center. This means you have two options. Move your right arm inline with your visual center. Or practice soo much that you train yourself to deal with the flaw, It is going to take a lot of work a maybe a couple of years to get accustomed to the way you decide to shoot. I would suggest putting your back hand closer to your body. I don't know if this is the best decision for you, but one thing is for sure, you need to get your stroke in line with your visual center.
Centar of gravity is little bit off, move forward little… follow action is really unnecessary.. ok drop elbow, but no need for that in my opinion… right elbow must be in line with your cue action.. you can avoid chest with your body position.. don’t know how to explain…
Your cue action is very jerky, this won’t help at all abs exasperates the issue. I’d recommend watching videos of Shaun Murphy and Neil Robertson to see what a much more flowing action looks like
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Reason for the cue to go left after hitting the cue ball is the grip hand impacting the chest which in turn pushes the cue to the right and the tip to the left for a righthanded person. Trivially, on soft shots the impact is less than on hard shots-this explains the difference of deflection of the grip hand on impact. Also, on draw shots the effect is bigger because by having to lift the butt a bit more to hit the cb lower the chest is crowding the cue more and the grip hand impacts the chest even earlier. - Don't bother too much. Many top players show this symptom. You can weed it out bit by bit by working on a more relaxed grip all the way to the finish position and by working on further smothening your cue action. PS: elbow should be still and not move to the side before delivery… it is minor in your case but monitor this. Finally, there is no need to follow through excessively after impact (like Jasmin Ouschan does) because this is only cosmetics. Just focus on beeing relaxed on follw through and think of finishing the stroke a little bit shy of a slip stroke. // btw Mario He uses a real slip stroke on most draw shots because it gives him more way before impacting his chest with his grip hand. // so relax and good shooting… you are on track with your fundamentals!
Sorry for the late reply, but this is a great comment. I agree, and right now I'm sort of happy with the straightness. To be honest I think there are other aspects of my game that needs more attention in order to reach a higher level. But I'll throw some short periods with focus on fundamentals every now and then to tighten things up! Things are better now since this video, even! Thanks for the comment.
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I agree with using a bottle to stroke through, but with a modification…
I generally shoot right handed, but decided to shoot left handed this year. One of the things I noticed is my cueing is not straight, mostly horizontally. I checked my stance, alignment, etc. and cannot find much out of line to be cueing that way.
My solution: I took two clear plastic water bottles (smallest diameter I had), cut them, and taped them together so both small ends were lined up and on each end. I used cardboard to raise the modified bottle to the height of my bridge hand. I started cueing slowly through one, then through both. It was a bit of a pain starting off because the bottle kept moving, but that was instant feedback for correction. Once I was cueing better, I sped up to my stroke speed while cueing through both holes. Cueing through both holes in the bottles put my focus on cueing straight. If I keep practicing this, I am confident I will cue straighter with this technique.
Muscle memory: Once I started stoking through the bottle, I could feel my upper arm muscles getting sore. It did not take too long to feel my muscles getting sore. With that said, I think this method is a way of training my muscles to deliver a straight stroke.
-> For those who cannot figure out why you do not stroke straight when everything else seems to be ok, try practicing this technique and you may discover a your muscles need to be “retrained” to help you perform better.
- The hard part is finding something that keeps your cue straight while you practice your strokes. You can place a cardboard box on each side of your cue while cueing, as I saw in another YT video. I just find the modified bottle method easier to do at home and it can be adjusted as you see fit. You could even set the bottles up to practice a jump stroke.
NOTE: This is a good time to review and work on any other stroke or stance imperfections as well.
Hope it helps someone.
Step into each single shot from behind (two steps). Slightly turn your torso when going down; for right-handers, right shoulder goes up. Separate isolated upper arm backwards movement when going down from isolated lower arm movement when shooting; the latter, however, continues the former smooth and straight. Before shooting, let your head be as still as the balls lying in front of you (still head means still body). Again, shooting is isolated lower arm movement. During drawing back and shooting, don‘t loose fixation of your aiming point. Imagine the cue staying on the shot line during the swing and after contact. Loose grip, throughout the entire sequence. Think of shooting like bow shooting: the back swing requires the energy (lifting the arm), the cue then „falls“ into the aim.
Great advice. I do most of them now. The rotation/sideways approach is something I stribe after, but my neck and upper back mobility limits me to some degree. Working on it! Thanks for the comment!
Love the work! One drill I did to straighten my stroke was just stroke into a water bottle (I cut out the end so I could stroke through). Like stroke through the open cap and never hit the edge and don’t knock the bottle around.
Keep it up!
Thanks. The bottle is a classic!
I love this video because it shows how hard it is to hit straight and the ball center. It also shows how this complicates learning since one is learning for months or years how to hit cut shots and do English while one’s straight shooting improves. It shows how hard pool is. On another note, I test the straightness of my shooting by hitting the cue ball to the far cushion to let the ball rebound back to the cue stick. The product "Third Eye" describes games in its DVD to win money that rely on straight shooting.
I have the same issue, my cue goes to left, too. I am still working on this, I am doing not dropping my elbow, not to grip too hard and put the cue close to my right eye, I thought my vision center was in the middle of my face.
I guess you don't find your vision center, some people said that your body will adjust automatically to where you focus on.
You will fix it with your hard working, good luck.
Your head lifts slightly when you take your backstroke
What I noticed.
1) The top elbow moves out after your pause and before your stroke. Anticipating the shot? It is fine during your pre-strokes.
2) Your wrist is not parallel to the ground, it is bent outward; this could cause your elbow issue…and your straight stroke issue.
3) You are bending both legs, which is fine for some people, but it is harder to keep the body still with all that movement.
NOTE: I also have a hard time completely stopping the cue ball on stop shots; it tends to go right or left. I think my issue is not seeing straight on the cue ball. I have been told my stroke is straight, so I figured that is what it is. Need to find my vision center and memorize it.
Try turning your knuckles towards the floor(counter-clockwise) on your grip. Not a ton. Just a bit. I got this from Break From Lifes Channel and it really helped. Experiment with it til all is well
I did the bottle drill nearly every night for 2 months straight and my cue improved immensely.
Cool. Did you just stop at opening of the bottle, or follow through in?
Same here , I'm much better but on very hard shots it shows! Old school players like Mark Wilson are standing almost on the side of the shot so they don't crush the cue with their body.
good work
You mentioned that your cue is steering to the left after contacting the cue ball, which seems to be the case. However, if you notice your cue ball is moving to the left of the object ball after contacting it. There are two reasons why this could be happening. 1) Your alignment is not straight. 2) You are applying unwanted right spin, making the cue ball deflect to the left.
I think lots of players might have this issue (myself included) since we tend to have the habit of using outside spin to help certain shots go in. That's my analysis anyway based on my own flaws and experience. Let me know your thoughts and if you find out something interesting about your game afterwards. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the comment. I think the alignment needs to be checked, yes. I think the fact that the ball goes to the right in some of the shots, is mostly because I didn't line the balls up dead straight. The pockets are 3.9 inch, so you need to pocket them in the far side in order to not catch the point. Anyway, thanks for the comment! Have you gotten the results you wanted by analyzing your own stroke? Was it worth the effort?
Sometimes on a power stroke you might wanna be just a little higher in your stance to allow more room in the stroke under the chest for your freedom of movement
That's good advice. I know the Ko brothers talked about that in one of their videos. Working more on the stroke after this video was recorded, I realized that particular spot on the table was giving me alot more trouble than other places, and I realized it was because of fear of hitting the rail with the cue/right hand. Standing higher definitely helps with that! Any thoughts on the rail issue?
Maybe this will help. I found out the biggest key to shoot straight CONSISTENT(for me at least) is the tempo of the practice stroke before shooting. If I get down and shot without practice stroke I am shooting straight like 7/10(medium distance). Ofc the most comfortable way is with practice stroke but if I change my tempo my shotmaking is going down drastically. I also write this for other pool players, if you are the type of guy which one day makes some break and runs and barely miss and the other day you can't pocket 5 balls, maybe thats the biggest problem,not the stance, not the head placement etc, at least it was for me. Try to remember the tempo when you played the best, shoot some balls then change it and see if there is any difference; if it is, train on the tempo
That's actually interesting. I'll try to be aware of that. Thanks!
Shortening your backswing will help a lot. Watch Alex Pagulayan. Jason Shaw. Joshua Filler. Even though they have a long bridge they only come back a short distance. You don’t generate power from the backswing. It comes from the forward motion.
Thanks! I agree. It's actually one of the five tips in my latest video!
@@PoolProblems It’s difficult to get used to at first but it’s worth the effort once you see the results. I’ll be sure to watch it. It’s good to see a fellow youtuber not shy about calling out their shortcomings and addressing them. TTYL
Been a while since your last video.
I am actually drafting a video about consistency when it comes to pocketing the ball and i come across a stance issue and grip issues i am a bit busy to record it at the moment but i should be doing it soon 😅
Looking forward to your video, my friend!
I noticed that your grip is possibly throwing your stroke off.
If you go to 4:19 in the video. You can see that your wrist is in and your knuckles are out. Your knuckles should be down and your wrist should be straight with your forearm. When you finish your stroke your knuckles are down. That is giving an unintentional twist to your stroke. I hope this helps.
I think you might have a point. I'll look into it, thank you very much!
looks like you are droping you shoulder please explain
Hey bud. 2 things.
1. There's a lot of emphasis (especially by instructors) on straight cueing. I think it's a valid thing to work on, but like you said, all the flaws seem to be after contact. I get pretty annoyed by those who think what happens during your follow through effects what the cueball does. It's a pretty preposterous claim, and breaks all laws of physics as we know them. Of course, you can use what's happening after contact to give you clues as to what's happening BEFORE and DURING contact, but there's no real impact on the shot. many pros have "flaws" in their strokes after contact, it's just natural- especially if you're not hitting the cueball in the center. When you're drawing the ball with more force, you're hitting harder and lower on the ball, which means the cue it deflecting off the ball (and it's weight) more and into the slate as you're following through, so OF COURSE it's gonna look like there's more flaws there. Pay attention to the cueball's movement. What the cueball does should clue you into whether it's a good hit. Simple, effective, no bullshit.
2. If you REALLY want a straighter stroke in the follow through, you can do what I did. I use a stroke slip (and made a video on it). Easily the best choice i've made for my stroke thus far. Like you, i also have a large elbow drop, and it certainly contributes to better timing and a more relaxed, smooth power. It also feels natural for me. adding a stroke slip on top of it just means my followthrough looks ridiculously long, but I'm sure that I'm driving through the cueball straight 99.9% of the time. For you, i'd suggest either trying something like that (adjusting your grip, or not gripping at all), or tweak your wrist position. Some have wrist action that curl inward (like SVB), some have wrist action that turn outwards. The reason this is impactful for guys like us with lose grips and elbow drops is because of our finger placement. Notice where your fingers are holding the cue before contact and after follow through. It's likely that they've turned somewhat (which isn't inherently bad imo), but by playing around with wrist angle, you can effectively change what part of the fingers hold the cue, changing the pressure on the back end of the cue during follow through and thereby altering it's course.
Lemme know if you have questions. We have a similar style of play, so I think I get it. Also, when I cue crooked, it also goes to my left ;)
Thanks, Sensei. Your reflections show such a deep knowledge for the game (and learning in general). Like you said in 1 - the most important factor is what happens at impact, I think the consistensy in my shotmaking speaks for itself. It's become so much better, so I must be doing something right, huh? I still don't really understand how cue deflection takes place if I hit center? The cue ball is long gone right after impact, so there should be room for the cue to follow along in a straight line, shouldn't it? I was watching Fedor in his latest challenge match video from Vietnam, and his cue travels dead straight - but he's literally has the straightest stroke of all pool players, so maybe it's wrong comparing to him. Regarding the slip stroke - I'm not a fan personally, but it does happen from time to time on power draw strokes just naturally. I'll give it a try and see. Your video is of course really valuable, and I think there's a Chua draw-shot video somewhere where he demonstrates it also? Anyway: Is it work dwelling on details in the stroke or do you think I should just focus more on playing "real pool"? I know players that probably have worse fundamentals than me that are at a much higher skill level just because they get the job done - pocket the ball, get position, repeat.
@@PoolProblems on 1: I’m saying that the cue veering to the left is more dramatic on draw shots, not center ball hits. That’s because the cue is rubbing off the slate. Of course this means that your cue is veering off to the left anyways regardless, I was just stating that it’s more prominent during draw shots for that reason.
I’ve worked really hard on not trying to copy pro players because I used to do it a lot. Fedor has the straightest cueing in all of pool, so yeah comparing to him (and copying him) might not be the most useful. Though I do think that understanding the elements of what pro players do well and implementing those characteristics into your “natural” game is very beneficial.
As for what you should work on…I’m unsure. For some folks, working on their cueing make an enormous impact, and for some, the focus needs to be elsewhere. I’m not really a coach, and haven’t spent a ton of time looking at your game so I don’t think I could tell you what to focus on.
I can tell you that for MY game, my recent improvements in competition have come from the mental side of the game. In terms of practice and physical skill training, my improvements have come from building good habits and maintaining similar focus through all shots. The through-line there is all about intent. What do I intend to do and how do I intend for the balls to behave? Every decision should be made to satisfy those intentions, and the quality follows.
Thanks for the kind words. 💪🏼 let’s both keep working.
Consider aligning your stroke arm to be inline with your head.
It seems your elbow position is a bit right of your head and your hand on the stroke isn't coming down straight, it's inward to your body.
Practice Infront a mirror. Watch your line with backhand to elbow head and shot line. Keep in mind you want your vision center on the shot line.
In short it can be a stance issue.
100% agree. I think I've developed the habit because I want to avoid hitting the chest. Working on it, but it's easier said than done.
From what i can see, your first error come when aligning. You are aligning across the ball. And what i mean by that is your head is too far left (our perspective and too far right on your perspective). That causes your cue to be offline to start with and then you seem to kinda work that out when feathering. But at the time of stroke the problem occurs more because you have to go around your chest to get follow through.
The vision alignment is something I've altered a bit back and forth. Actually I've gone more back after this video, so it could be a thing. Things are better now, but swooping still occurs. The biggest issue seems to be the clearance of the chest, like you say. Working on it! Thanks for the comment!
@@PoolProblems Yes, the swooping occurs because chest clearance. But have you thought what causes the chest to be in the way? One thing could be your stance, but for what i could see in your video it didnt look that bad. But it could be it. But if the case is, as i think it might, you align yourself too far to right of the actual line of aim, and then you automatically have that chest clearance issue to deal with even with proper stance.
@@PoolProblemswatch your video again, and stop the vid exactly at 0:27. At that moment if you have aligned yourself properly, you should be online already.
Yes, what seems to help is cueing slightly more out, like maybe aligning towards the toes of the right foot, instead of the heel. Also, more twisting of the trunk, not moving the right elbow out on the backstroke. Alot of things 😅 here's the latest update I recorded before taking a break from the isolated fundamental work
ruclips.net/video/x9sd_dfhUqc/видео.html
What do you think?
@@PoolProblemsYes looks better. Still aligning bit offline, so have you changed your aligning, stance or both to get here?
you're right arm/ shoulder moves to the right just before you stoke the cueball. keep an eye on it from 1.31 of the video. you'll see that it moves ever so slighly before you execute your shot
Yes, it's very true. That'll be my main focus from now 👍🏼
You are left eye dominate and right handed. Your stroke needs to be inline with your visual center. This means you have two options. Move your right arm inline with your visual center. Or practice soo much that you train yourself to deal with the flaw, It is going to take a lot of work a maybe a couple of years to get accustomed to the way you decide to shoot. I would suggest putting your back hand closer to your body. I don't know if this is the best decision for you, but one thing is for sure, you need to get your stroke in line with your visual center.
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Centar of gravity is little bit off, move forward little… follow action is really unnecessary.. ok drop elbow, but no need for that in my opinion… right elbow must be in line with your cue action.. you can avoid chest with your body position.. don’t know how to explain…
Yeah, that follow through is too long 😅 update one month later here
ruclips.net/video/x9sd_dfhUqc/видео.html
What do you think?
Your cue action dont need to be straight. No billiard or snooker Player has straight cue action besides maybe Robertson
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Your cue action is very jerky, this won’t help at all abs exasperates the issue. I’d recommend watching videos of Shaun Murphy and Neil Robertson to see what a much more flowing action looks like
Oh, man. I'm a huge fan av Shaun Murphy! Probably the smoothest transition of all cueists!
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