I carried a Sebenza for 14 years. It was the year 2000 engraved edition with Redwood burl inlay. I loved that knife. I lost it digging my truck out of the snow in a blizzard (not with the knife, of course). I was heart broken. I went to great lengths to try and recover it, but never did. That was years ago and nothing has replaced it in my heart, nor my pocket. At the time, it was a ridiculous expenditure, but if you average it out over how long I carried it, and how much longer I would have had I not lost it, it seems reasonable. By the way it’s the only knife I’ve ever lost. I like to think that someone who wouldn’t otherwise have been able to afford it is enjoying it as much as I did.
I own a classic Sebenza as well as a ZT and Spyderco Police. I carry them all. I will tell you though my Sebenza is most often in my pocket. It is nearly 25 years old still rock solid I use it for work with no problems or qualms about it. Chris Reeve Knives has the best customer service as far as I am concerned. I called them after owning the knife for nearly 15 years needing new screws. The lady I spoke to simply asked my name and address and when I asked if she needed my CC info she said no. The hardware was at my house in a matter of days. No questions asked no proof of purchase. I will always be a Sebenza carrier, it will be willed to my nephew to continue to carry.
I went to the Chris Reeve store in 2018. Tim Reeve sold me an Inkosi. He told me the Inkosi is the better choice. I cherish that knife. Tim then gave me a full tour of their factory and personally introduced me to his staff. He was so cool and I'll never forget that day. His mom is super nice as well.
I like the Inkosi better too, but some people don’t fit the finger grooves, and now the Sebenza 31 has large one-piece “annual” style inlays and the Inkosi ceramic ball lockup, so it’s looking better now.
I love to over-analyze everything under the sun, and that includes knives. When a knife enthusiast is looking to buy (yet another) new knife, he or she is really looking for three different kinds of products in one: a tool, a toy, and a piece of jewelry. Some people emphasize the tool aspect above everything else. They’d be happy as a clam with any robust budget model. Some people are interested mainly in the knife as a toy- how well it flips opened and closed, or any tricks they can perform with it. Some prioritize the jewelry aspect- fit and finish, premium materials, customization, etc. A Sebenza really can best be understood as something that was intended by the maker to be a robust tool, but is viewed almost exclusively by the market as a piece of jewelry. That viewpoint is exacerbated by the fact that you can void your warranty so easily just by flicking it open forcefully. Sebenzas sit in an ironic paradox of being nearly indestructible, yet no one wants to use them aggressively for fear of damaging them. But I can’t simply throw disparaging words on people with expensive tastes. There are analogies in every aspect of life. A homeless person manages to scrape together enough discarded food or pocket change to avoid starvation just one more day. A wealthy person spends hundreds of dollars on a single gourmet meal. The wealthy person creates ample resources for himself (money, amongst other things), so he doesn’t have to opt for the barest necessities possible. Is it wrong or evil to enjoy an expensive meal? Not necessarily. Someone who can’t afford expensive meals would say without hesitation that it’s evil, yet I guarantee you that if that person won the lottery one of the first things they’d do is celebrate with an expensive meal. All of that said, I do have to laugh at the idea that my slip joint Case knife has probably seen more hard use than a room-ful of Sebenzas. 🤷♂️
Good thoughts. In a free country, the wealthy guy provided jobs for those involved in his splendid meal. Rumor has it, the dishwasher run out after work to buy a Honey Badger, the prep lady a colorful Spyderco and the chef went online to order a Sebenza 31.
It probably has and that's a shame. They really are great tools designed for many years of use. I saved and bought a 21 when I heard they were changing the original design. Just had to see for myself. Figured I could always sell it or keep it as the jewel of my small knife collection if it was too nice to use. The 31 was long available by the time I had scraped enough together to get one of the last few available at a retailer. I don't regret it one bit and once I scratched it up I've never looked back. I just don't use my knife as a field expedient screwdriver anymore.🤣
Reminds me of the wrist watch industry. Tho, it's even a bigger rabbit hole when you start to learn about it... much bigger and almost totally insane. The best watches are the cheapest ones. And as the price increases, the quality declines.
I've been in the knife business since the 70's. I think a lot of new knife enthusiasts don't know how influential Chris Reeves is/was as a knife maker. Tolerances, tolerances, tolerances- his were/are still top notch. He was hitting .001 numbers decades ago. Frame lock? It was originally called the RIL, Reeve integral lock, yup, he invented it. Premium steel? Reeves paired with some top metallurgists to produce one of the first premium knife steels, S30V. He was a true innovator.
I’ve been carrying CRK’s for 14 years now and no matter how many new, fancy and trendy knives I’ve tried during that time, I always come back to my Reeve’s.
I bought an Inkosi years ago and it got mixed use with all my spydercos, hinderers and other knives. I just bought 2 Sebenza 31s this year, one Damascus micarta one and one Plain Magnacut tanto. As with anything new I planned to carry it a lot for the first week but it hasn't left my pocket for 2 months. It's just such a great all around knife, for every situation. It's not the best at any 1 thing but it does everything better than most. Magnacut at 63HRC is just awesome by the way.
Outstanding video. Plenty of praise for the Sebenza, which it completely deserves, without overly gushing to shill. Lots of other super options provided with awesome commentary. Well done 👏🏻 IMO the Seb is still the king 👑 best lock, best hollow grind, great blade metal, Ti lightness, perfect pocket clip, amazing real world use strength & durability… and simple, easy ability to self-service 👍🏻
Best lock? What drugs are you smoking? The frame lock is the most average lock on the market. Plus with all the latest lock rock issues on their new sebenza 31 models? Hardly the best lock mate, not by a long shot. Demkos shark lock destroys almost any lock for comfort, strength, and ease of use, not to mention fully ambidextrous. Sorry, but no.
For me, Chris Reeve will always be no. 1 since I'm left handed and hardly any alternative knife maker makes knifes dedicated for lefties! I can never get enough of asking my righty friends to try opening the knife one handed. Most end up failing and just stare at the knife confused. Only had a couple guys actually figure out that it requires the other hand.
0562ti has that double clutch. Completely ruins it for me, and the fact that its on bearings and a flipper. If it was on pb for reliability it would be one of the best
One knife that I absolutely love and felt not only completed with the Sebenza but beat it in many cases was the Italian made Fantoni HB-03 in M390 and CF. As a Bill Harsey design it was absolutely phenomenal but sadly Fantoni went out of business back in 2018 and few will ever get a chance to handle one
Opinions based on an opinion of another person’s opinion whose opinion of someone else’s opinion is just that…their own opinions. So much anger and hatred throw at one company who makes an excellent product, and I don’t recall them ever saying in interviews or otherwise that they were the “industry standard”. I mean just because they won awards year after year, for what?? Almost two decades?? Yeah, that doesn’t say anything about the company. No one in this world will be happy with anything someone else does, and you can’t please an opinionated person who has never been told that in the real world, NO ONE owes you anything. You want something, work for it, you want to win, train for it, if it’s too expensive, apply for a job where things “aren’t expensive”. At the end of the day, I love my CRK’s, and I carry mine for work and I use mine for work, and I love owning mine. Are they the BEST folders I own, probably not, but then again, they probably are. They cut when I need them too, and as far as everyone else goes, y’all can carry what you want and tell me it’s the best, and I might even agree with you, because I understand that the thing you call the “best” works for you, just as my proverbial “best” works for me.
Very Very well said ! I picked up a sebenza second hand and it is a great knife simple yet showy,I absolutely love it! That being said, I wouldnt want to spend 425$+ for one ! And I don't thinkI'd sell mine for that amount either! I can think of at least 4 other knifes 4 the price
@@xDooksx Matter of fact I was doing very well. Then your comment sent me into a bit of a quandary. You see when I first read it I believed it to be exclamatory in nature, and thus was thinking to be ordered to feel okay, at which point I thought to myself, “yes, for you, I will feel better”. Once upon and theretofore putting on my spectacles; I saw that your comment was not exclamatory but indeed interrogative in nature, by the obvious use of the question mark at the end, which was there the entire time. So once I realized you were asking a question and not enjoining a prepatory command…needless to say I felt a bit silly and reluctantly decided that I would still feel better even though it was not an order, but instead a question. So now, to answer your original question: “yes”, yes I do feel better, and it’s all thanks to you. Enjoy reading till the end.
Pro Tech Malibu. Tough to find currently too, but generally a lot less expensive for equivalent luxury level Sebenza’s, and it has its own unique build choices that play on the company’s strengths (button locks, fast action, and beefy blade stock). Full retail price for a base Malibu is $270 (you can find them if you look hard enough), base Sebenza is $450. The Malibu is made of anodized aluminum, so maintaining a new looking finish is an impossibility outside of a museum case, but they do make other handle materials, I imagine there might be aftermarket too. BTW, If Chris Reeve is concerned with flipper forces on a knife, please don’t show him any Pro-Tech autos lol. I sound like a fanboy but I only own 2 pro techs (for less money than a mid range sebenza lol). They just do what they do very well, and I think it’s pretty clear that the Malibu is intended for the Sebenza space. ZTs are great too, a bit ornate and not as usefully designed for my taste, mine doesn’t make it to my pocket as much as the Malibu, but more than my Half-breed. They don’t mess around with their steel, but their blade shapes just aren’t at utilitarian (on the smaller, “classy” models anyway, hinderers are still no joke). Anyway, my “knife of record” is the Malibu, it’s in the sweet spot of uncompromising USA build quality and price. It’s beyond me why they don’t make more of them, seems like they could print their own money with them, but maybe they sold slower than they hoped. Or maybe they can’t tool up enough production at their desired quality.
I've never really thought the Sebenza was all that appealing, certainly not at the price point. Then again I'm not a Ti frame lock guy, so tbh most these knives don't really do it for me. I do have the Fox 525 and I love it, but its the wood handled version w/ damasteel. Only knife on the table I've ever really considered is the Spartan Harsey. I'll prolly pick one of those up one of these days.
Do it. What’s a lot of fun w that knife is choosing from the vast array of color choices and different engraving. They have alot of options that appeal to me. And being made in America tics the last box. Interested what one you end up deciding on. 💪🏻💪🏻
As you know, the Harsey and the Sebenza have many similarities and few differences. The sharping choil, in my opinion, is the biggest difference between the two. You will not see a smile on the Sebenza blade for at least 3 generations.
My 1969 Buck 110 folding hunter knife has worked very well for about 50 dollars new and most likely field dressed 16, to 18 Whitetails. A 4" to 5 inch blade is a must now
Some great knives on that table, and a bunch of others could be mentioned. That being said, I sure like my Sebenza’s. I will be in line for more when they come with Magnacut as a standard steel next year.
The fact that they decided to go back and retroactively charge people more for things they’d already purchased, but not received yet, makes them a F tier company.
Nobody had paid a dime the orders were simply placed no money was exchanged and it’s funny people will pay 100 dollars over retail for a Chinese made knife from a American maker that’s been out sourced but as soon as a truly 100% American made knife has a price increase then their wrong and a crappy company I don’t get it
I've had several Sebenza's (and other CRK's); I have a 31 on my desk now. I personally think they are a bit overrated. Pretty much any modern mid-tier (benchmade, spyderco) and up folder is just as good at being a knife. My 31 wasn't even built that well. It has lock rock and side to side blade movement, but not enough for me to send it in. I think they were miles ahead 30 years ago, but now they are classics; almost like a classic car: look cool from the outside, but not that great to actually drive. I won't be buying another CRK. Just imo.
I love knives and have a big collection. Have always wanted one but hesitant. I really appreciate your honest opinion. I think you just made up my mind. Thank you sir.
I would agree to a degree. Every Sebenza I have owned, including both of my 31’s have been absolutely perfect. Any Benchmade I’ve owned, which there are several, are poorly made. Even my 940-1 has a blade that is not even close to being centred. I will say that I love my Spyderco knives though. They are smooth, well put together, and just simply awesome. I also love how many alternate scales and such are out there for the Spydies. I love my CRK’s and will totally buy more. Also love my Spydies and will add more of those. I have five Benchmades and they have gotten worse over the years. I won’t buy another BM.
@Tyler I’m with you. For price to quality, BM has to be on any most-overrated knives list. Many look so cool in pictures, then feel pretty cheap and often have issues out of the box. I’d rather have a Shiro than a BM gold class whatever. I do like my crooked river though. Solid knife.
@@dl733sak the Sebenza deserves a counterpoint. I own six CRK’s - 2 small, 2 large Sebs, an Umnumzaan & a Mnandi (+many other top models ie. XM18’s, 940’s, Ultratechs etc). IMO it’s the greatest folder ever made. It is the benchmark that has spawned hundreds of knife designs and models over the last few decades. It’s an outstanding knife, especially in the small size for EDC and actual use day in day out. To me the 21 was better than the 31 but the 31 is still awesome. It’s such a simple and great design. And in the Insingo blade design is amazing for EDC uses. They literally invented the frame lock, S30 and now S35 metals. It’s an incredible knife that will last a lifetime. It’s super light, thin and comfy in the pocket, it has the best hollow grind blade made and it’s just tough, including perhaps the best pocket clip made. Don’t write it off on one YT comment from a rando. Just my two cents. Happy carrying! 🤙🏻
My Sebenza 31 sits in my knife drawer mostly collecting dust while my trusty old Rat 1 does all the work. I’m sure I’m not the only one with this story.
I bet later on in life you'll be glad you never used the Sebenza and carried a rat all the time instead. Nothing wrong with the rat but a Sebenza isn't a show piece, time to dust it off and enjoy it.
Just love the Ulrich Hennicke designed Task 1. I know it's been around for a while but it's got very classy, sleek visual detailing of the blade and handle and nice size. Great price too.
Just buy the Sandrin Monza, and call it a day! You will not be disappointed!!! *Knife owner/collector/user with 20+ years experience, (with over $110,000 in knives) & owning nearly every one on the table!*
Me, too that is exactly why I do not own one. In addition, Lynn Thompson and his brownies totally destroyed one, on one of their advertisements for their triad lock. I can buy two Spydiechefs for the price of a Sebenza.
Agree with that outlook. I've been tempted to buy some of these finer knives but then I think I can buy a handgun at that price. I can buy 2,000 rounds of 9MM for that. I could buy the knife I have and lose and rebuy it 5 times over and still have a knife. When I think like this I never pull the plug, I'm concerned I'd wind up losing / misplacing it.
I really wish you could still grab those. I got the first Emerson ZT the tanto and it is so well made. ZT have great f&f anyway imo but this thing is special.
@@gabrielbaker2667 Ive done it multiple times with CRK, Strider, RHK, Emerson. We all have. At some point there are diminishing returns, especially with knives like CRK which (in my experience) are typically collectors knives. 💯🤝
@@skookumdanger I do not carry mine every day, but it does stay in my rotation of knives I carry. Mine is not a collector. But I could see why people do collect them
@@gabrielbaker2667 I've spent over $1k on a knife before, and I still think CRK are overpriced for a plain handled Ti frame lock knife with a mid-tier blade steel. They don't appeal to me at all.
Love this, seeing the Sabenza, an nice alternatives, I EDC mostly my Spyderco Amalgam, an absolutely love it. I have yet to find anything close as far as light, the feel in my hand is like it was custom made for me. Thanks DCA, for all you do for the the knife folks!
I also carry a Spyderco daily. The para 3 to be exact. No other knife has provided my use case with the ergonomics and utility that this knife has. I feel the same way about my para 3. A Spyderco is my go-to for daily use.
@@landscapingspecialist I recently got the KC exclusive Griptilian. Its my new work EDC. Nice enough to be proud of in pocket, but not too nice that I'd cry if I lost it. The bright colored handle is a plus since I drop knives in customers yards somewhat often it seems lol
I own a Sebenza 21. I use a Sebenza 21. It’s a good knife. I’ve had a few & no complaints about any of them. Yes there’s knives that are a better value but there’s a joy of ownership to them.
I recognize the Sabenza’s history and contribution to where are now, but I can’t get past my opposition to the frame lock, esp on knives with scale on only one side ( *shudder* ), Having said that, the We entrant definitely seems the best bang for yer buck on that table. Another excellent offering, DCA.
One thing I love about my Sebenza is the ease of cleaning. I can disassemble, clean and reassemble in no time and CRK includes the tools to do it. I suspect some of the knives shown would be difficult to disassemble and may even void your warranty if you do so. If you are worried about getting your knife dirty what’s the point?
I've never been happier to still be carrying my 20+ year old Gerber Harsey AirFrame, the ancestor of the Spartan Harsey Folder. Although the AirFrame is a liner lock, rather than a frame lock, its lock up is totally solid and it has what I believe are UHMW polyethylene washers instead of bronze washers. Being a knife that was designed some 25 years ago, the AirFrame has a 154CM blade, which while not being as exotic as later Crucible powder metallurgy steels, was considered a premium steel way back in the late 1990s. Remember that the Sebenza was originally made in ATS-34, which is virtually identical to 154CM. The 3D machined titanium scales are every bit as attractive as those of the Sebenza or Spartan, perhaps even moreso. This is the best folding knife Gerber ever made, and it was made in the US. In fact, Gerber ended up discontinuing the knife because it cost more than they expected to make it. The best part of the knife for me is that it has a tip down pocket clip, which I prefer and believe offers inherently superior safety to any tip-up design.
There are definitely better knives for the dollar, especially over seas made. The sebenza 31 still loves in my pocket every day. It's hard to beat their work performance, quality, and manufacturer support.
Great video. CR Sebenza grabs more that its fair share of reviews and show time. Great alternatives here. While the James Brand may be the closest (IMHO) I just love Chaves knives (grail brand). Hard to pin down why - probably a collision between their overbuilt design, compound blades and exacting engineering (thanks Reate). However, as nearly all of these are outside my budget, the closest I'll get to actually owning one is watching this video. 😢
Knowing nothing about this situation except for the occasional photo I see posted to Facebook from Instagram (since I don’t have my own Insta account), my guess is 90% of the back-ordered Sebenzas are for guys who already have five or six other Sebs, and who only take them out of a padded Pelican case long enough to kind them up all pretty next to expensive alcohol served in an expensive glass, and take a nice picture of them, then seal them all away again.
There are sebenzas available through retailers currently and can be bought all day on the crk bst facebook pages. The waitlist is only if you're buying direct from CRK. With the prices of inflation for all goods, it isn't unreasonable for them to raise prices accordingly. They make American products and support 40+ families. Some of the wait lists are over 5 years but they're ramping up production and making more knives than ever
Bought my first Sebenza in 1990 , Over the years I’ve purchased 9 Sebenza’s in total the last one I bought in 2017, They are beautiful show pieces but that’s all they are in my opinion a show piece not a EDC moderate use knife .Every Sebenza I owned had issues with lock disengagement doing moderate cutting tasks, I can’t give the argument that I just got a defective one when I had issues with all 9 purchased over a 27 year span .I’ve only kept my first Sebenza I purchased in 1990 for sentimental reasons the others I sold. Spartan Harsey , Hinder knives and Medfod knives just to name a few have just as good fit and finish in the same price range with Medford being the exception they are considerably more expensive but unlike the Sebenza’s I never had issues with any of those knives doing the same moderate cutting tasks. I still think Sebenza’s are beautiful knives just not a edc
Interesting. I had the same lock troubles on my spartans. A full size and 3.25. My 21 has always been rock solid.🤷 Guess we are all out here just trying to get lucky with the knife of our dreams🤣🤣🤣
Ive got 2 sabenza 21s that ive used to do all kinds of work. Its popped locks, stripped wire, and tightened screws...none of these things are recommended but it works flawlessly.. .
Another awesome BEAT THE ICON video DCA! I'd have to say that Chavez makes some insanely good looking rugged knives. And that ZT AND Shiragorov are gorgeous. I own two integral knives (Benchmade Anthem and Lionsteel SR11A) and the the Anthem is an absolute dream to own and carry.
How do we feel about MBK’s Old Guard in the mix? I liken it to the Kizer T1, but I like the Ray L. design a lot more on the Guard. Food for thought. Great video!
Beautiful knives. I own a 21 and two old guards. A ti linerlock and one of the newer ones in zdp189. The ti is a great, classy knife and one of the few I own that'll make me put my 21 in the drawer for a few days. The newer one, not so much. It's either very tight(so tight it doesn't always lock when opened) with no blade play, or with blade play and opens so hard the lock sticks...😞 I suppose the real test will come when I try to reach out to MBK to remedy the situation.
I still prefer my 21 for most days but the OG is a great knife too and I would definitely recommend it if you wanted to save a few bucks. Go for the ti linerock if you can find one
I own a sebenza 25 or inkosi and I love it but I like my zt 0850 better. And now that I've had my vero synapse xl a week I like it more also. Just my opinion on my knives. Great review DCA..
Every so often I contemplate adding a Sebenza to my collection. But, I think the design needs an update. I can't bring myself to buy a Ti frame lock that does not have a steel lock bar insert. Especially considering the price of Sebenzas. Without the steel insert, the titanium isn't wear resistant enough to do well over the long haul. I know the end of the Sebenza lock bars are carbonized. But, I don't think it's enough. I have a friend who has an older Sebenza, where the lock bar is now extremely late, almost touching the opposite handle scale. Also, CRK doesn't want you flick their knives open. Are you kidding me? That's part of the action the majority of knife nuts look for.
They've been updated with a ceramic ball haven't they? Still imo you can get better materials in a more updated design, with similar levels of finish for less money.
Had my Sebenza for a little over a year now and love it. Use it daily from general cardboard cutting to harder use cases. Can it be beaten? Yes, certainly but it's still a great knife. Luckily I've had no QC issues with mine but I've heard that not always the case. Also carry a ZT 0562 which is a better slicer but not quite as tough feeling (imo).
I'm like you w/ the knives. I have two customized ZT 0562Ti(s). You can't beat the metal "bang" they make. Yet, with all of today's, new faster-action, wildly-designed knives, the honorable Sebenza is in a different class.
That was a fun one, just seeing a whole bunch of premium knives in a similar class. I always enjoy your videos. I would like to see a video on work knives with washers rather than bearings price range anywhere from$30 up to $250 price range.
I think Rockstead could have been included with Higo II (vs Large Sebenza). If you were to release a video of a Gentleman's Pocketknives, please include Nehan vs Mnandi
Well, I thought that I might splurge and buy the LionSteel TiSpine shown in this video, except that it doesn't exist on the website. The link in the video goes nowhere, searched the website, nothing. Any reason for this???
When was the last time CRK prices went up? Just curious. I thought they were pretty reasonable considering other knives in that tier like SHF, Chaves, and others shown here which go for more than 500. Admittedly, it’s an expensive tier, but I’ve often thought CRK could charge more and I’m not surprised they raised prices.
While the sabenza is a fine piece of cutlery it is showing its age as far as overall design. The price is still fairly reasonable and if you look at USA made specifically there aren't nearly as many alternatives. I think a good comparison is the AD20. USA made and around the same price point and fit and finish and arguably the strongest lock mechanism but also inluding a buttery smooth deployment and a more recent trend being more fidgety. My point is for a company that set the standard back in the day they don't seem to be the gold standard today as a company.
the sebenza is not a "hard use knife" not like the ad 20 with its flimsy construction and ball bearings. they are a completely different category of knives. they are still the gold standard has nothing to do with some other knive with a randomly strong lock.
When it came time for me to get a premium pocket knife, I considered the Sebenza but choose the Rockstead Hizen. S45V is a great steel but not unlike a blade from Spyderco or Benchmade. I'm not sure it constitutes a step up from them. But the Rockstead blade...that is a step up.
The inkosi has a thicker blade stock and thicker scales. Inkosi also has the ceramic ball for the lockup interface. I think it is a more comfortable knife to hold onto also.
One thing not talked about is the warranty, spa and customer service the Sebenza offers! I sent my Sebenza in for spa service and it came back looking New. Can we even reach a person on the phone for some of the other knives ? 🤔
That’s something that most people seem to forget. Not only are you paying for the price for materials and craftsmanship, but you are also paying into the services that come with the knife itself. You can disassemble and reassemble your CRK over and over, and when the day comes that it needs to be serviced years down the line, they have you covered for the life of the knife. Lots of companies do not do that, some even outright claim that disassembly voids your warranty. I just got my first CRK, an Inkosi, but I have full faith that I will be taken care of when need be. So honestly, none of these choices even come close to what you get with CRK.
There are alot of knives out that are just as good or better at being a cutting tool. But we all know that if all we were buying the knife for was to cut then a box cutter with a fresh blade when ever you want is best. It's alot more than that and the Sebenza is still number one to me. That spartan was the only one on that table that competes with it or maybe a Arius which wasn't shown.
The real omission here was the Rockstead Higo and Hizen. They share the bushing pivot that the Sebenza uses. Of course the blades are different class, but in my collection, these knives are the closest competitors for my pocket!
I've bought a lot of premium knives...sold off a lot, still have some...but a CF Elite Bugout serrated has kicked every other knife I have to the curb for some time now. I don't see that changing. I can appreciate nice knives now... but I have no desire for any more. Like my old trusty Glock 26 (my edc since 2008) the bugout just does it for me.
I have bought and sold at least 30 Sebenzas in the last 20 years. If I could have any single one of them back it would be a Large Plain Regular. They always seem to leave me cold for some reason. Try as I might, I just cannot hold onto one for very long.
Did you like that Kizer T1, folks? Beautiful action, innit? And a great-looking knife. I sure thought so. So I bought one. And got one with what I now know is the famous brutally tight and finicky detent. Struggled with it all day until my thumb literally bled. Yes, I know about staying off the lock bar. So, so disappointed and angry. Beautiful packaging, though, very nice. Black and silver. Very classy. You can tell you've got a premium knife in every way except how it works.
I carried a Sebenza for 14 years. It was the year 2000 engraved edition with Redwood burl inlay. I loved that knife. I lost it digging my truck out of the snow in a blizzard (not with the knife, of course). I was heart broken. I went to great lengths to try and recover it, but never did. That was years ago and nothing has replaced it in my heart, nor my pocket. At the time, it was a ridiculous expenditure, but if you average it out over how long I carried it, and how much longer I would have had I not lost it, it seems reasonable. By the way it’s the only knife I’ve ever lost. I like to think that someone who wouldn’t otherwise have been able to afford it is enjoying it as much as I did.
Great way to look at it!
Metal detector?
Just buy another?
@@spoopy9689 I know. I've bought one.
Sucks that you lost it mate, but man absolutely respect your outlook on someone else being able to enjoy it. Stay blessed!
I own a classic Sebenza as well as a ZT and Spyderco Police. I carry them all. I will tell you though my Sebenza is most often in my pocket. It is nearly 25 years old still rock solid I use it for work with no problems or qualms about it. Chris Reeve Knives has the best customer service as far as I am concerned. I called them after owning the knife for nearly 15 years needing new screws. The lady I spoke to simply asked my name and address and when I asked if she needed my CC info she said no. The hardware was at my house in a matter of days. No questions asked no proof of purchase. I will always be a Sebenza carrier, it will be willed to my nephew to continue to carry.
I went to the Chris Reeve store in 2018. Tim Reeve sold me an Inkosi. He told me the Inkosi is the better choice. I cherish that knife. Tim then gave me a full tour of their factory and personally introduced me to his staff. He was so cool and I'll never forget that day. His mom is super nice as well.
I like the Inkosi better too, but some people don’t fit the finger grooves, and now the Sebenza 31 has large one-piece “annual” style inlays and the Inkosi ceramic ball lockup, so it’s looking better now.
Man this might be one of my favorite episodes, every knife is a winner in my book. Nice work KC 🤘🏻
I love to over-analyze everything under the sun, and that includes knives.
When a knife enthusiast is looking to buy (yet another) new knife, he or she is really looking for three different kinds of products in one: a tool, a toy, and a piece of jewelry. Some people emphasize the tool aspect above everything else. They’d be happy as a clam with any robust budget model. Some people are interested mainly in the knife as a toy- how well it flips opened and closed, or any tricks they can perform with it. Some prioritize the jewelry aspect- fit and finish, premium materials, customization, etc.
A Sebenza really can best be understood as something that was intended by the maker to be a robust tool, but is viewed almost exclusively by the market as a piece of jewelry. That viewpoint is exacerbated by the fact that you can void your warranty so easily just by flicking it open forcefully. Sebenzas sit in an ironic paradox of being nearly indestructible, yet no one wants to use them aggressively for fear of damaging them.
But I can’t simply throw disparaging words on people with expensive tastes. There are analogies in every aspect of life. A homeless person manages to scrape together enough discarded food or pocket change to avoid starvation just one more day. A wealthy person spends hundreds of dollars on a single gourmet meal. The wealthy person creates ample resources for himself (money, amongst other things), so he doesn’t have to opt for the barest necessities possible. Is it wrong or evil to enjoy an expensive meal? Not necessarily. Someone who can’t afford expensive meals would say without hesitation that it’s evil, yet I guarantee you that if that person won the lottery one of the first things they’d do is celebrate with an expensive meal.
All of that said, I do have to laugh at the idea that my slip joint Case knife has probably seen more hard use than a room-ful of Sebenzas. 🤷♂️
Good thoughts. In a free country, the wealthy guy provided jobs for those involved in his splendid meal. Rumor has it, the dishwasher run out after work to buy a Honey Badger, the prep lady a colorful Spyderco and the chef went online to order a Sebenza 31.
It probably has and that's a shame. They really are great tools designed for many years of use. I saved and bought a 21 when I heard they were changing the original design. Just had to see for myself. Figured I could always sell it or keep it as the jewel of my small knife collection if it was too nice to use. The 31 was long available by the time I had scraped enough together to get one of the last few available at a retailer. I don't regret it one bit and once I scratched it up I've never looked back. I just don't use my knife as a field expedient screwdriver anymore.🤣
Reminds me of the wrist watch industry. Tho, it's even a bigger rabbit hole when you start to learn about it... much bigger and almost totally insane. The best watches are the cheapest ones. And as the price increases, the quality declines.
@@damyr praise GOD for cell phones. If they only had blades, I might be much richer.
Good assessment! Funny, and true. 👌😅
I've been in the knife business since the 70's. I think a lot of new knife enthusiasts don't know how influential Chris Reeves is/was as a knife maker. Tolerances, tolerances, tolerances- his were/are still top notch. He was hitting .001 numbers decades ago. Frame lock? It was originally called the RIL, Reeve integral lock, yup, he invented it. Premium steel? Reeves paired with some top metallurgists to produce one of the first premium knife steels, S30V. He was a true innovator.
I’ve been carrying CRK’s for 14 years now and no matter how many new, fancy and trendy knives I’ve tried during that time, I always come back to my Reeve’s.
You can't beat the robust build. I get bored of fast flicky action really fast. But the slow smooth roll out is always satisfying
I bought an Inkosi years ago and it got mixed use with all my spydercos, hinderers and other knives. I just bought 2 Sebenza 31s this year, one Damascus micarta one and one Plain Magnacut tanto. As with anything new I planned to carry it a lot for the first week but it hasn't left my pocket for 2 months. It's just such a great all around knife, for every situation. It's not the best at any 1 thing but it does everything better than most. Magnacut at 63HRC is just awesome by the way.
Exactly the sort of review I needed.
Outstanding video. Plenty of praise for the Sebenza, which it completely deserves, without overly gushing to shill. Lots of other super options provided with awesome commentary. Well done 👏🏻 IMO the Seb is still the king 👑 best lock, best hollow grind, great blade metal, Ti lightness, perfect pocket clip, amazing real world use strength & durability… and simple, easy ability to self-service 👍🏻
Best lock? What drugs are you smoking? The frame lock is the most average lock on the market. Plus with all the latest lock rock issues on their new sebenza 31 models? Hardly the best lock mate, not by a long shot. Demkos shark lock destroys almost any lock for comfort, strength, and ease of use, not to mention fully ambidextrous. Sorry, but no.
For me, Chris Reeve will always be no. 1 since I'm left handed and hardly any alternative knife maker makes knifes dedicated for lefties! I can never get enough of asking my righty friends to try opening the knife one handed. Most end up failing and just stare at the knife confused. Only had a couple guys actually figure out that it requires the other hand.
I had owned 2 Sebenzas, sold both. Now I carry a ZT 0562 ti, best knife ever for me.
0562ti has that double clutch. Completely ruins it for me, and the fact that its on bearings and a flipper. If it was on pb for reliability it would be one of the best
One knife that I absolutely love and felt not only completed with the Sebenza but beat it in many cases was the Italian made Fantoni HB-03 in M390 and CF.
As a Bill Harsey design it was absolutely phenomenal but sadly Fantoni went out of business back in 2018 and few will ever get a chance to handle one
I clicked on this video thinking, “I better see a Spartan Harsey folder.” I’m glad to see that we think alike.
Opinions based on an opinion of another person’s opinion whose opinion of someone else’s opinion is just that…their own opinions. So much anger and hatred throw at one company who makes an excellent product, and I don’t recall them ever saying in interviews or otherwise that they were the “industry standard”. I mean just because they won awards year after year, for what?? Almost two decades?? Yeah, that doesn’t say anything about the company. No one in this world will be happy with anything someone else does, and you can’t please an opinionated person who has never been told that in the real world, NO ONE owes you anything. You want something, work for it, you want to win, train for it, if it’s too expensive, apply for a job where things “aren’t expensive”. At the end of the day, I love my CRK’s, and I carry mine for work and I use mine for work, and I love owning mine. Are they the BEST folders I own, probably not, but then again, they probably are. They cut when I need them too, and as far as everyone else goes, y’all can carry what you want and tell me it’s the best, and I might even agree with you, because I understand that the thing you call the “best” works for you, just as my proverbial “best” works for me.
Very Very well said ! I picked up a sebenza second hand and it is a great knife simple yet showy,I absolutely love it! That being said, I wouldnt want to spend 425$+ for one ! And I don't thinkI'd sell mine for that amount either! I can think of at least 4 other knifes 4 the price
Feel better now?
@@xDooksx Matter of fact I was doing very well. Then your comment sent me into a bit of a quandary. You see when I first read it I believed it to be exclamatory in nature, and thus was thinking to be ordered to feel okay, at which point I thought to myself, “yes, for you, I will feel better”. Once upon and theretofore putting on my spectacles; I saw that your comment was not exclamatory but indeed interrogative in nature, by the obvious use of the question mark at the end, which was there the entire time. So once I realized you were asking a question and not enjoining a prepatory command…needless to say I felt a bit silly and reluctantly decided that I would still feel better even though it was not an order, but instead a question. So now, to answer your original question: “yes”, yes I do feel better, and it’s all thanks to you. Enjoy reading till the end.
Agreed.
Pro Tech Malibu. Tough to find currently too, but generally a lot less expensive for equivalent luxury level Sebenza’s, and it has its own unique build choices that play on the company’s strengths (button locks, fast action, and beefy blade stock).
Full retail price for a base Malibu is $270 (you can find them if you look hard enough), base Sebenza is $450. The Malibu is made of anodized aluminum, so maintaining a new looking finish is an impossibility outside of a museum case, but they do make other handle materials, I imagine there might be aftermarket too. BTW, If Chris Reeve is concerned with flipper forces on a knife, please don’t show him any Pro-Tech autos lol. I sound like a fanboy but I only own 2 pro techs (for less money than a mid range sebenza lol). They just do what they do very well, and I think it’s pretty clear that the Malibu is intended for the Sebenza space.
ZTs are great too, a bit ornate and not as usefully designed for my taste, mine doesn’t make it to my pocket as much as the Malibu, but more than my Half-breed. They don’t mess around with their steel, but their blade shapes just aren’t at utilitarian (on the smaller, “classy” models anyway, hinderers are still no joke).
Anyway, my “knife of record” is the Malibu, it’s in the sweet spot of uncompromising USA build quality and price. It’s beyond me why they don’t make more of them, seems like they could print their own money with them, but maybe they sold slower than they hoped. Or maybe they can’t tool up enough production at their desired quality.
I've never really thought the Sebenza was all that appealing, certainly not at the price point. Then again I'm not a Ti frame lock guy, so tbh most these knives don't really do it for me. I do have the Fox 525 and I love it, but its the wood handled version w/ damasteel.
Only knife on the table I've ever really considered is the Spartan Harsey. I'll prolly pick one of those up one of these days.
Do it. What’s a lot of fun w that knife is choosing from the vast array of color choices and different engraving. They have alot of options that appeal to me. And being made in America tics the last box. Interested what one you end up deciding on. 💪🏻💪🏻
@@landscapingspecialist Oh I already know which one I want. The Plague Doctor!
Thats a good one . Been eyeballin the Plague dr myself. Waiting on that 50 % off sale 😆
As you know, the Harsey and the Sebenza have many similarities and few differences. The sharping choil, in my opinion, is the biggest difference between the two. You will not see a smile on the Sebenza blade for at least 3 generations.
@@hdrider2071 LOL You and me can both hold our breaths waiting on that sale to happen
Can confirm Shirogorov's are flawlessly put together.
I'd like to be able to. Perhaps DCA will send me one so I can speak from experience.
Insane prices and wait times.
I'd love to see an episode of this regarding the Grimsmo Norseman.
My 1969 Buck 110 folding hunter knife has worked very well for about 50 dollars new and most likely field dressed 16, to 18 Whitetails. A 4" to 5 inch blade is a must now
Some great knives on that table, and a bunch of others could be mentioned. That being said, I sure like my Sebenza’s. I will be in line for more when they come with Magnacut as a standard steel next year.
The recent price increase makes it less of a top contender for quality frame lock knives. Asking $425 for a plain Jane small sebenza is insane
I agree. They've been really ridiculous recently. Hard to say good things about a knife maker that overprices their products.
he even raised the prices on people who already had their knives on order. Pretty crazy that he shows a 4 year backlog of orders too. -_-
The fact that they decided to go back and retroactively charge people more for things they’d already purchased, but not received yet, makes them a F tier company.
Nobody had paid a dime the orders were simply placed no money was exchanged and it’s funny people will pay 100 dollars over retail for a Chinese made knife from a American maker that’s been out sourced but as soon as a truly 100% American made knife has a price increase then their wrong and a crappy company I don’t get it
exactly the same as a small xm-18 pretty standard pricing
I've had several Sebenza's (and other CRK's); I have a 31 on my desk now. I personally think they are a bit overrated. Pretty much any modern mid-tier (benchmade, spyderco) and up folder is just as good at being a knife. My 31 wasn't even built that well. It has lock rock and side to side blade movement, but not enough for me to send it in. I think they were miles ahead 30 years ago, but now they are classics; almost like a classic car: look cool from the outside, but not that great to actually drive. I won't be buying another CRK. Just imo.
I love knives and have a big collection. Have always wanted one but hesitant. I really appreciate your honest opinion. I think you just made up my mind. Thank you sir.
I would agree to a degree. Every Sebenza I have owned, including both of my 31’s have been absolutely perfect. Any Benchmade I’ve owned, which there are several, are poorly made. Even my 940-1 has a blade that is not even close to being centred.
I will say that I love my Spyderco knives though. They are smooth, well put together, and just simply awesome. I also love how many alternate scales and such are out there for the Spydies.
I love my CRK’s and will totally buy more. Also love my Spydies and will add more of those. I have five Benchmades and they have gotten worse over the years. I won’t buy another BM.
@Tyler I’m with you. For price to quality, BM has to be on any most-overrated knives list. Many look so cool in pictures, then feel pretty cheap and often have issues out of the box. I’d rather have a Shiro than a BM gold class whatever. I do like my crooked river though. Solid knife.
Not to mention the price increase 🙃
@@dl733sak the Sebenza deserves a counterpoint. I own six CRK’s - 2 small, 2 large Sebs, an Umnumzaan & a Mnandi (+many other top models ie. XM18’s, 940’s, Ultratechs etc). IMO it’s the greatest folder ever made. It is the benchmark that has spawned hundreds of knife designs and models over the last few decades. It’s an outstanding knife, especially in the small size for EDC and actual use day in day out. To me the 21 was better than the 31 but the 31 is still awesome. It’s such a simple and great design. And in the Insingo blade design is amazing for EDC uses. They literally invented the frame lock, S30 and now S35 metals. It’s an incredible knife that will last a lifetime. It’s super light, thin and comfy in the pocket, it has the best hollow grind blade made and it’s just tough, including perhaps the best pocket clip made. Don’t write it off on one YT comment from a rando. Just my two cents. Happy carrying! 🤙🏻
My Sebenza 31 sits in my knife drawer mostly collecting dust while my trusty old Rat 1 does all the work. I’m sure I’m not the only one with this story.
I bet later on in life you'll be glad you never used the Sebenza and carried a rat all the time instead. Nothing wrong with the rat but a Sebenza isn't a show piece, time to dust it off and enjoy it.
I’ve had the same SOCOM Delta in my pocket since 2012 and I’m glad i bought 2 more. They should last me the rest of my life.
Sounds like you need to pull out an use that Sebenza
i got a sebenza and now i nearly only have sebenzas
Love my Rat1 in D2 think bout this you could buy10 rat1s for the price of 1 sebenza
Just love the Ulrich Hennicke designed Task 1. I know it's been around for a while but it's got very classy, sleek visual detailing of the blade and handle and nice size. Great price too.
Are there any alternatives to Swiss Army Knives? Maybe some with more premium steel, or with bigger tools?
For upgraded steel, have a look at the SAK alternatives made by Boker, Ruike and MKM.
That Chaves Redencion 229 is absolutely stunning.
My favorite
Just buy the Sandrin Monza, and call it a day! You will not be disappointed!!!
*Knife owner/collector/user with 20+ years experience, (with over $110,000 in knives) & owning nearly every one on the table!*
I'm shocked at how expensive some of them are. Insane.
Me, too that is exactly why I do not own one. In addition, Lynn Thompson and his brownies totally destroyed one, on one of their advertisements for their triad lock. I can buy two Spydiechefs for the price of a Sebenza.
It's pocket jewelry. I find the more I spend on a knife, the less I treat it like a tool and put it to use.
Agree with that outlook. I've been tempted to buy some of these finer knives but then I think I can buy a handgun at that price. I can buy 2,000 rounds of 9MM for that. I could buy the knife I have and lose and rebuy it 5 times over and still have a knife. When I think like this I never pull the plug, I'm concerned I'd wind up losing / misplacing it.
Kinda surprised not to see the ZT 0640 on this list. It seems to be an even better direct competitor than the 0470 you showed.
I'm with you on that
I really wish you could still grab those. I got the first Emerson ZT the tanto and it is so well made. ZT have great f&f anyway imo but this thing is special.
Thoughts on the Spydiechef? That knife is fantastic
Considering the price (and recent price increase) yes, yes you can absolutely beat a Sebbie. 💯
People acting like a $30 price increase makes these no longer desirable. Like you were already willing to drop $350 plus on a knife lol
@@gabrielbaker2667 Ive done it multiple times with CRK, Strider, RHK, Emerson. We all have. At some point there are diminishing returns, especially with knives like CRK which (in my experience) are typically collectors knives. 💯🤝
Not really. Maybe made in china, but not something to this caliber made in USA for the price.
@@skookumdanger I do not carry mine every day, but it does stay in my rotation of knives I carry. Mine is not a collector. But I could see why people do collect them
@@gabrielbaker2667 I've spent over $1k on a knife before, and I still think CRK are overpriced for a plain handled Ti frame lock knife with a mid-tier blade steel. They don't appeal to me at all.
Love this, seeing the Sabenza, an nice alternatives, I EDC mostly my Spyderco Amalgam, an absolutely love it. I have yet to find anything close as far as light, the feel in my hand is like it was custom made for me. Thanks DCA, for all you do for the the knife folks!
I also carry a Spyderco daily. The para 3 to be exact. No other knife has provided my use case with the ergonomics and utility that this knife has. I feel the same way about my para 3. A Spyderco is my go-to for daily use.
@@landscapingspecialist I recently got the KC exclusive Griptilian. Its my new work EDC. Nice enough to be proud of in pocket, but not too nice that I'd cry if I lost it. The bright colored handle is a plus since I drop knives in customers yards somewhat often it seems lol
This comment section is such a gift LOL thank you DCA and KC!!
This is the most perfectly timed video release.
I’ve always wanted a Spartan Harsey. So many different color ways and designs. But the knife itself is something that I would carry.
Which one would YOU get?
Bro, I got the warthog spartan Harsey and LOOOVE IT!! go for it, you won't be disappointed!!!
Shiro is king for sure but definitely a different beast. Love DCAs version the most out of all I've seen tho. Great blade shape.
Try beating the hell out of one and sending it back to the manufacturer and see if they’ll return it in like new condition.
I own a Sebenza 21. I use a Sebenza 21. It’s a good knife.
I’ve had a few & no complaints about any of them. Yes there’s knives that are a better value but there’s a joy of ownership to them.
One knife I was looking at recently is the GiantMouse ACE Sonoma - Ti Satin. It's much cheaper that the Sebenza.
More Beat The Icon please! MORE MORE MORE!!!! 💪🏻💪🏻
Hope they do the 940 Osborne next
I recognize the Sabenza’s history and contribution to where are now, but I can’t get past my opposition to the frame lock, esp on knives with scale on only one side ( *shudder* ),
Having said that, the We entrant definitely seems the best bang for yer buck on that table.
Another excellent offering, DCA.
Really good timing since the price change lol
One thing I love about my Sebenza is the ease of cleaning. I can disassemble, clean and reassemble in no time and CRK includes the tools to do it. I suspect some of the knives shown would be difficult to disassemble and may even void your warranty if you do so. If you are worried about getting your knife dirty what’s the point?
Totally agree. Everyone loves an integral until you have to maintenance one. They're a super big pain in the ass to get back together
I've never been happier to still be carrying my 20+ year old Gerber Harsey AirFrame, the ancestor of the Spartan Harsey Folder. Although the AirFrame is a liner lock, rather than a frame lock, its lock up is totally solid and it has what I believe are UHMW polyethylene washers instead of bronze washers. Being a knife that was designed some 25 years ago, the AirFrame has a 154CM blade, which while not being as exotic as later Crucible powder metallurgy steels, was considered a premium steel way back in the late 1990s. Remember that the Sebenza was originally made in ATS-34, which is virtually identical to 154CM. The 3D machined titanium scales are every bit as attractive as those of the Sebenza or Spartan, perhaps even moreso. This is the best folding knife Gerber ever made, and it was made in the US. In fact, Gerber ended up discontinuing the knife because it cost more than they expected to make it. The best part of the knife for me is that it has a tip down pocket clip, which I prefer and believe offers inherently superior safety to any tip-up design.
All great knives, the only problem is that you will know it's not a sebenza everytime you hold it.
There are definitely better knives for the dollar, especially over seas made. The sebenza 31 still loves in my pocket every day. It's hard to beat their work performance, quality, and manufacturer support.
Great video. CR Sebenza grabs more that its fair share of reviews and show time. Great alternatives here. While the James Brand may be the closest (IMHO) I just love Chaves knives (grail brand). Hard to pin down why - probably a collision between their overbuilt design, compound blades and exacting engineering (thanks Reate). However, as nearly all of these are outside my budget, the closest I'll get to actually owning one is watching this video. 😢
OfCourse you can beat the Sebenza, I've seen it done with a CS Code-4 once. 😅
the real question is, can you buy a sebenza with waitlists of 2-4 years?
Knowing nothing about this situation except for the occasional photo I see posted to Facebook from Instagram (since I don’t have my own Insta account), my guess is 90% of the back-ordered Sebenzas are for guys who already have five or six other Sebs, and who only take them out of a padded Pelican case long enough to kind them up all pretty next to expensive alcohol served in an expensive glass, and take a nice picture of them, then seal them all away again.
There are sebenzas available through retailers currently and can be bought all day on the crk bst facebook pages. The waitlist is only if you're buying direct from CRK. With the prices of inflation for all goods, it isn't unreasonable for them to raise prices accordingly. They make American products and support 40+ families. Some of the wait lists are over 5 years but they're ramping up production and making more knives than ever
Bought my first Sebenza in 1990 , Over the years I’ve purchased 9 Sebenza’s in total the last one I bought in 2017, They are beautiful show pieces but that’s all they are in my opinion a show piece not a EDC moderate use knife .Every Sebenza I owned had issues with lock disengagement doing moderate cutting tasks, I can’t give the argument that I just got a defective one when I had issues with all 9 purchased over a 27 year span .I’ve only kept my first Sebenza I purchased in 1990 for sentimental reasons the others I sold. Spartan Harsey , Hinder knives and Medfod knives just to name a few have just as good fit and finish in the same price range with Medford being the exception they are considerably more expensive but unlike the Sebenza’s I never had issues with any of those knives doing the same moderate cutting tasks. I still think Sebenza’s are beautiful knives just not a edc
Interesting. I had the same lock troubles on my spartans. A full size and 3.25. My 21 has always been rock solid.🤷 Guess we are all out here just trying to get lucky with the knife of our dreams🤣🤣🤣
That blue and gray together a great combo
Great Video Mr. Anderson!
Ive got 2 sabenza 21s that ive used to do all kinds of work. Its popped locks, stripped wire, and tightened screws...none of these things are recommended but it works flawlessly.. .
Bought a set of beacons, one for me and one for my brother, and we both love it, great knife for the price
Great video topic. Thanks. Very well executed.
Another awesome BEAT THE ICON video DCA! I'd have to say that Chavez makes some insanely good looking rugged knives. And that ZT AND Shiragorov are gorgeous. I own two integral knives (Benchmade Anthem and Lionsteel SR11A) and the the Anthem is an absolute dream to own and carry.
How do we feel about MBK’s Old Guard in the mix? I liken it to the Kizer T1, but I like the Ray L. design a lot more on the Guard.
Food for thought. Great video!
Beautiful knives. I own a 21 and two old guards. A ti linerlock and one of the newer ones in zdp189. The ti is a great, classy knife and one of the few I own that'll make me put my 21 in the drawer for a few days. The newer one, not so much. It's either very tight(so tight it doesn't always lock when opened) with no blade play, or with blade play and opens so hard the lock sticks...😞 I suppose the real test will come when I try to reach out to MBK to remedy the situation.
I’ve had my eye an a ti old guard, and you may have just made up my mind. Epic that it can compete with your 21! Thanks for the reply.
I still prefer my 21 for most days but the OG is a great knife too and I would definitely recommend it if you wanted to save a few bucks. Go for the ti linerock if you can find one
The James Brand pricing kills me. Great video
I own a sebenza 25 or inkosi and I love it but I like my zt 0850 better. And now that I've had my vero synapse xl a week I like it more also. Just my opinion on my knives. Great review DCA..
You had me at the AC Sirius. Lovely !
Every so often I contemplate adding a Sebenza to my collection. But, I think the design needs an update. I can't bring myself to buy a Ti frame lock that does not have a steel lock bar insert. Especially considering the price of Sebenzas. Without the steel insert, the titanium isn't wear resistant enough to do well over the long haul. I know the end of the Sebenza lock bars are carbonized. But, I don't think it's enough. I have a friend who has an older Sebenza, where the lock bar is now extremely late, almost touching the opposite handle scale. Also, CRK doesn't want you flick their knives open. Are you kidding me? That's part of the action the majority of knife nuts look for.
They've been updated with a ceramic ball haven't they? Still imo you can get better materials in a more updated design, with similar levels of finish for less money.
I’m a bit surprised there was no Rick Hinderer on the list. Specifically the Eklipse.
Yeah, a Hinderer is the perfect example because you can’t get them either : )
Hey man! What about the Real Steel Phasma in titanium and M390 steel? Keep the excellent work! Cheers!
Excellent video David!
Arno Bernard is nice alternatives too
Had my Sebenza for a little over a year now and love it. Use it daily from general cardboard cutting to harder use cases.
Can it be beaten? Yes, certainly but it's still a great knife. Luckily I've had no QC issues with mine but I've heard that not always the case.
Also carry a ZT 0562 which is a better slicer but not quite as tough feeling (imo).
I'm like you w/ the knives. I have two customized ZT 0562Ti(s). You can't beat the metal "bang" they make. Yet, with all of today's, new faster-action, wildly-designed knives, the honorable Sebenza is in a different class.
@@cliffbunyea8416 100% agree.
Ti Spine is pretty sweet too, i like that monolithic handle design on it. 👌🏻
Love my toor merchant so much I bought another. Great knife
That was a fun one, just seeing a whole bunch of premium knives in a similar class. I always enjoy your videos. I would like to see a video on work knives with washers rather than bearings price range anywhere from$30 up to $250 price range.
Me too
I think Rockstead could have been included with Higo II (vs Large Sebenza). If you were to release a video of a Gentleman's Pocketknives, please include Nehan vs Mnandi
I have a Toor admiral, and love it minus the pocket clip (super weak) if they can fix that it'll be a serious contender for more pocket time
Man I love this episode!
The milling on that Lion Steel is *insane.*
Well, I thought that I might splurge and buy the LionSteel TiSpine shown in this video, except that it doesn't exist on the website. The link in the video goes nowhere, searched the website, nothing. Any reason for this???
When was the last time CRK prices went up? Just curious. I thought they were pretty reasonable considering other knives in that tier like SHF, Chaves, and others shown here which go for more than 500. Admittedly, it’s an expensive tier, but I’ve often thought CRK could charge more and I’m not surprised they raised prices.
CRK just raised their prices a couple of days ago (but it has been a while since that price bump)
Another fine job DCA, have impeccable taste
Great selection. I carry Benchmade 781 Anthem and I think it is a great option too. High quality integral and similar blade shape.
How long do you think it will be before you have CRKs in stock?
Its ok...i can do everything sebenza do with my buck 110 🤘🏻 cheers boi
Except make anyone envious when you tell them what knife you own. But yeah, other than that I'm sure.
Thanks for comparisons. Fancy pants!
While the sabenza is a fine piece of cutlery it is showing its age as far as overall design. The price is still fairly reasonable and if you look at USA made specifically there aren't nearly as many alternatives. I think a good comparison is the AD20. USA made and around the same price point and fit and finish and arguably the strongest lock mechanism but also inluding a buttery smooth deployment and a more recent trend being more fidgety. My point is for a company that set the standard back in the day they don't seem to be the gold standard today as a company.
100% agree! But one big difference...CRKs are widely available with just a little searching. AD20s are almost unicorns.
the sebenza is not a "hard use knife" not like the ad 20 with its flimsy construction and ball bearings. they are a completely different category of knives. they are still the gold standard has nothing to do with some other knive with a randomly strong lock.
Huge huge like on this particular episode ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you DCA
When it came time for me to get a premium pocket knife, I considered the Sebenza but choose the Rockstead Hizen. S45V is a great steel but not unlike a blade from Spyderco or Benchmade. I'm not sure it constitutes a step up from them. But the Rockstead blade...that is a step up.
And would we now include the Iridium on this list? After a year, maybe run this again.
I love toor knives, they have really cool, simple, designs.
Tables FULL of bangers today 👌🏻👌🏻😌
what a nice informative video!
this video is bad for my bank account. much excellent. 0 dislikes. thats near impossible for youtube....
What is the main difference between the sebenza & Inkosi? Is it the pivot size ?
The inkosi has a thicker blade stock and thicker scales. Inkosi also has the ceramic ball for the lockup interface. I think it is a more comfortable knife to hold onto also.
One thing not talked about is the warranty, spa and customer service the Sebenza offers! I sent my Sebenza in for spa service and it came back looking New. Can we even reach a person on the phone for some of the other knives ? 🤔
That’s something that most people seem to forget. Not only are you paying for the price for materials and craftsmanship, but you are also paying into the services that come with the knife itself. You can disassemble and reassemble your CRK over and over, and when the day comes that it needs to be serviced years down the line, they have you covered for the life of the knife. Lots of companies do not do that, some even outright claim that disassembly voids your warranty. I just got my first CRK, an Inkosi, but I have full faith that I will be taken care of when need be. So honestly, none of these choices even come close to what you get with CRK.
There are alot of knives out that are just as good or better at being a cutting tool. But we all know that if all we were buying the knife for was to cut then a box cutter with a fresh blade when ever you want is best. It's alot more than that and the Sebenza is still number one to me. That spartan was the only one on that table that competes with it or maybe a Arius which wasn't shown.
Enjoyed the video!
The real omission here was the Rockstead Higo and Hizen. They share the bushing pivot that the Sebenza uses. Of course the blades are different class, but in my collection, these knives are the closest competitors for my pocket!
These are all gorgeous
What is the the action like on the TiSpine?
I've bought a lot of premium knives...sold off a lot, still have some...but a CF Elite Bugout serrated has kicked every other knife I have to the curb for some time now. I don't see that changing.
I can appreciate nice knives now... but I have no desire for any more. Like my old trusty Glock 26 (my edc since 2008) the bugout just does it for me.
I have bought and sold at least 30 Sebenzas in the last 20 years. If I could have any single one of them back it would be a Large Plain Regular. They always seem to leave me cold for some reason. Try as I might, I just cannot hold onto one for very long.
Did you like that Kizer T1, folks? Beautiful action, innit? And a great-looking knife. I sure thought so. So I bought one. And got one with what I now know is the famous brutally tight and finicky detent. Struggled with it all day until my thumb literally bled. Yes, I know about staying off the lock bar. So, so disappointed and angry. Beautiful packaging, though, very nice. Black and silver. Very classy. You can tell you've got a premium knife in every way except how it works.
Alot of beautiful steel and titanium