Salvador: what a terrific, raw film. There's usually a scene in an Oliver Stone film, when an older man let's a younger man in on the secrets of how the world really works.
Fantastic film. I happened to be in El Salvador in 1986 and when I returned to the States, there was the film Salvador playing at a theater in Santa Barbara. Very emotional experience being down there then.
I think even former soldiers like myself can see through the hollywood parts...and get the message....how the u.s. government operates...training and/or advising so to speak or not...as with the current ukraine situation where green berets had trained the Ukrainians and 200 national guard soldiers were there training Ukrainians and national guard arty units are training Ukrainians in Germany and soon back in somalia/africa......the raw death that latin america still sees, the way the local authorities work, the military, rebels, diplomats. I get the gist of it and it connects oliver's movies to how the government works.....it's a trail or education that most can't or won't see....
@@CondorSkyGhost the school of the Americas hasn't really done much good to the Nations in Latin America. Noriega, Pinochet, galtiari, contras, El Salvador junta, Mexican sfs guys that later become the zetas
The El Salvador war must have been a tough subject to make a movie out of. So little was really known about it because most of the news and literature at the time was partisan agenda-driven.
There was plenty of accurate reporting coming out, but anything that made the Junta look bad and contradicted Washington was denounced as communist propaganda.
Yo estuve en eso yo vi eso para todos esos que no saben yo era un niño vi cabezas de jente para mí fue como una muve de terror pasaron muchos años para pasar eso
Back in the 1980's a good friend of mine at age 26 commited suicide. He graduated with good grades in Communications from Weber State College. Today in 2017 he'd be 54 years old. He was starting his career in radio , news and DJ.. Back in the 1980's ED was convinced that Reagan or Bush was going to bring back the draft , and draft him into a war with Central America. As a boy Ed was always sickened by what we did in Vietnam and did not want to see a repeat of Vietnam. Ed was rite,, in 2002 Bush II repeated a Vietnam in Iraq !!
You won't find a bigger fan of James Woods the actor than me, but I bailed at 30 some minutes in. Lenny Brown is only interesting as a fictional character.
Wow, Propaganda & Laziness Effective , Shame on the Filmmaking investigation process... Stoneone of our fav. director but states 3 facts not true, or at least not objective about history of El Salvador war on this interview , on the Movie itself that´s another critic history, but here , the Film Society of Lincoln Center must allowed us our respond on the subjects that our work clearified or at least desmistified .
What was propaganda? The government was a military junta, it ran death squads, they assassinated Romero, they raped nuns, they butchered the village of El Mozote and numerous others. It was a travesty fuelled by American guns and money.
@@kentallard8852 Stone said that there was never a killed made by guerrillas, it's not true, he states that the Massacre of QUEBRADA seca didn't happened, that he delete the scene on Salvador, were some guerrilla killed soldiers, now that he knows that didn't happened, that is so wrong andn a lie, that happened and a lot, it's not the only case those cases u mentioned are just propaganda blowing of proportion cases, all the cases u mention were made by Death squads not the junta they didn't have the full control, Nd were not the worst, remember urban Comandos from the Fmln are death squads and they killed as many as the others but seems like is better to deal with propaganda than real facts, like the Massacre of the paracentral and more
@@LObostudios19 yeah, like the Azov CIA-trained Nazis are propaganda, like McCain shaking hands with IS rapists is propaganda, like Kissinger's "make the economy scream" and Chicago Boys' Friedman cheerleading for the butcher Pinochet is propaganda, hope leeches like you get what they disserve, soon
@@LObostudios19 the truth commission after the war estimated most of the war crimes was done by the Salvadoran army. El Salvador is a country plagued by gang violence now. And fox news always acted like Ms 13 is this scary foreign threat when they literally started in Los Angeles by Salvadoran war refugees
@@jonathanramos8414 the ms gangs started in USA thats true, and the US government and primitive social structurehas to be blamed on that, the truth comission was based on false and propaganda info, they hide the fmln, different groups crimes, or where you can find the RN, Fpl, Communist party crimes?, nowhere if the truth comission includes this facts or investigations the balance of the estimates will be more balance and real, but is fake, those are some of the reasons why we have those problems you mentioned
I'm curious to know how wrong Stone and this film were. He's renowned for his inaccuracies, even in his own stories such as Platoon. The Village massacre never happened and he even said last month he thought that stuff was far overblown, but he made the scene anyway because it made the war in Vietnam look even worse.
@@johnbailey2850there were some village massacres but everything in that movie is more of a loose retelling (ofc there are deniers in real life), the way they killed Romero was way different, the names were different, so don't take anything at face vallue, the only real accurate thing was TicTac (the firewater brand), and Oliver's purpose of conveying that the US was involved
James Woods is hilarious.All of his stories are great, and it was nice hearing him appreciate his friend.
Particularly since Stone’s and Woods' politics are diametrically opposed, Woods is graceful in his praise for Stone.
@@Tristan_again is Woods a conservative?
@@ValerioMansueti Woods is extremely right wing - have a look at his pro-Trump twitter feed!
@@ValerioMansueti who cares? He's an amazing actor with great respect for Oliver Stone's directing despite their political differences.
As for me , I’m away to battle aliens in a far away planet
Salvador: what a terrific, raw film.
There's usually a scene in an Oliver Stone film, when an older man let's a younger man in on the secrets of how the world really works.
Great film - great director and great actor.
I would love to see a director's cut of Salvador.
Fantastic film. I happened to be in El Salvador in 1986 and when I returned to the States, there was the film Salvador playing at a theater in Santa Barbara. Very emotional experience being down there then.
I was one of those American soldiers in El Salvador in the 1980s. A lot of this movie was Hollywoodized, but I recommend it overall.
Must have been a tough one Bro. But at least Oliver has tried to tell some semblance of the story. Hes always tried to do you great guys justice.
Just out of curiosity, What were the moments in the movie that were hollywoodized?
training death squads & torturers or field operations?
I think even former soldiers like myself can see through the hollywood parts...and get the message....how the u.s. government operates...training and/or advising so to speak or not...as with the current ukraine situation where green berets had trained the Ukrainians and 200 national guard soldiers were there training Ukrainians and national guard arty units are training Ukrainians in Germany and soon back in somalia/africa......the raw death that latin america still sees, the way the local authorities work, the military, rebels, diplomats. I get the gist of it and it connects oliver's movies to how the government works.....it's a trail or education that most can't or won't see....
@@CondorSkyGhost the school of the Americas hasn't really done much good to the Nations in Latin America. Noriega, Pinochet, galtiari, contras, El Salvador junta, Mexican sfs guys that later become the zetas
Super. Your channel is providing a greatly informative service with videos like this. Thank you for sharing.
The way Woods and Stone just gave their brutally honest opinion of each other but its so cute at the same time…😂❤
Thank you for this!
Very nice salute to Oliver by James Woods there around the 38:00 mark. Bravo. Nice panel here.
James Woods is hilarious here!
I'm watching it now.
Always liked Woods
The El Salvador war must have been a tough subject to make a movie out of. So little was really known about it because most of the news and literature at the time was partisan agenda-driven.
There was plenty of accurate reporting coming out, but anything that made the Junta look bad and contradicted Washington was denounced as communist propaganda.
17:22 Oliver Stone steals James Woods' water bottle!
he would.
Yo estuve en eso yo vi eso para todos esos que no saben yo era un niño vi cabezas de jente para mí fue como una muve de terror pasaron muchos años para pasar eso
What’s better Under Fire or Salvador?? Similar films
Salvador
I just watched El Salvador I think that's better than Under Fire but they're both good
Back in the 1980's a good friend of mine at age 26 commited suicide. He graduated with good grades in Communications from Weber State College. Today in 2017 he'd be 54 years old. He was starting his career in radio , news and DJ.. Back in the 1980's ED was convinced that Reagan or Bush was going to bring back the draft , and draft him into a war with Central America. As a boy Ed was always sickened by what we did in Vietnam and did not want to see a repeat of Vietnam. Ed was rite,, in 2002 Bush II repeated a Vietnam in Iraq !!
Such a sad story.
No need to draft anybody after a 9/11. A beautiful disaster, as Oliver called it “impossibility of reason”
Jesus, next time mic the audience asking the questions. Lame.
You won't find a bigger fan of James Woods the actor than me, but I bailed at 30 some minutes in. Lenny Brown is only interesting as a fictional character.
I would never in a million years believe a word out of the mouth of Stone.
why
Gay serial killer? wasn't that Dahmer lol
And Gacy
How much of what drugs are these people on? Get real
Strange to see Communist Stone and Conservative Woods to gether.
What's so strange about it? Stone's not even a communist you moron.
why do you call him a communist?
@@kentallard8852 because we arnt allowed to look out for each other
@@kentallard8852 because, unfortunately, morons like this one here are a majority in the US of A
Was Woods still normal at this time - not the MAGA nut of 2020? Saw this film at festival screening, didn't get national distib.
James Woods is likely the best actor of all time. Why does he act like a trump addled goofball anymore?
Wow, Propaganda & Laziness Effective , Shame on the Filmmaking investigation process...
Stoneone of our fav. director but states 3 facts not true, or at least not objective about history of El Salvador war on this interview , on the Movie itself that´s another critic history, but here , the
Film Society of Lincoln Center must allowed us our respond on the subjects that our work clearified or at least desmistified .
What was propaganda? The government was a military junta, it ran death squads, they assassinated Romero, they raped nuns, they butchered the village of El Mozote and numerous others. It was a travesty fuelled by American guns and money.
@@kentallard8852 Stone said that there was never a killed made by guerrillas, it's not true, he states that the Massacre of QUEBRADA seca didn't happened, that he delete the scene on Salvador, were some guerrilla killed soldiers, now that he knows that didn't happened, that is so wrong andn a lie, that happened and a lot, it's not the only case those cases u mentioned are just propaganda blowing of proportion cases, all the cases u mention were made by Death squads not the junta they didn't have the full control, Nd were not the worst, remember urban Comandos from the Fmln are death squads and they killed as many as the others but seems like is better to deal with propaganda than real facts, like the Massacre of the paracentral and more
@@LObostudios19 yeah, like the Azov CIA-trained Nazis are propaganda, like McCain shaking hands with IS rapists is propaganda, like Kissinger's "make the economy scream" and Chicago Boys' Friedman cheerleading for the butcher Pinochet is propaganda, hope leeches like you get what they disserve, soon
@@LObostudios19 the truth commission after the war estimated most of the war crimes was done by the Salvadoran army. El Salvador is a country plagued by gang violence now. And fox news always acted like Ms 13 is this scary foreign threat when they literally started in Los Angeles by Salvadoran war refugees
@@jonathanramos8414 the ms gangs started in USA thats true, and the US government and primitive social structurehas to be blamed on that, the truth comission was based on false and propaganda info, they hide the fmln, different groups crimes, or where you can find the RN, Fpl, Communist party crimes?, nowhere if the truth comission includes this facts or investigations the balance of the estimates will be more balance and real, but is fake, those are some of the reasons why we have those problems you mentioned
i'm from El Salvador.... 50% fake 50% close fake, did not like the movie...
I'm curious to know how wrong Stone and this film were. He's renowned for his inaccuracies, even in his own stories such as Platoon. The Village massacre never happened and he even said last month he thought that stuff was far overblown, but he made the scene anyway because it made the war in Vietnam look even worse.
@@johnbailey2850 where did he say that?
@@johnbailey2850there were some village massacres but everything in that movie is more of a loose retelling (ofc there are deniers in real life), the way they killed Romero was way different, the names were different, so don't take anything at face vallue,
the only real accurate thing was TicTac (the firewater brand), and Oliver's purpose of conveying that the US was involved
Woods tiring to listen too.
What you're really saying is, you don't like Trump.