What do you think Shabani and Kiyomasa were thinking and feeling in the scene where they stared at each other for so long? シャバーニとキヨマサが長い間見つめ合っていたシーンで、彼らはお互いに何を思い何を感じていたと思いますか？
To the videographer. I have just watched the video, and you mentioned numerous times that the troop were "depressed." The troop are not depressed. That is a very harsh word to be throwing around, as depression is a serious illness and ignorant towards people who suffer badly. The troop were maybe "out of sorts" or "restless" but not depressed. Maybe think about the statements you make on these videos, as you could offend someone.
Awww I feel for the Shabani troop. Gorilla growing pains and transitions! I hope the zookeepers are on top of Annies health. Love to the Shabani troop! 🧡🦍🧡🦍
It goes to show you that these animals are heavily invested in each other. Their love and concern for each other runs deep. We as humans don't act like this when father and son fight, we certainly don't stop eating! They are very sensitive animals!,💗🦍🇺🇸 ! What will happen when Kiyo has to leave?? This troop will fall apart if they can't even find him! This is the down side of raising them in captivity ❤️
It almost looks like Shabani is in a therapy session with the zoo keeper when he is lying down. SHABANI "Oh sure, they always blame the Silverback, like it's my fault! Is it too much to ask for a little respect around here?" ZOO KEEPER "And how does that make you feel?" LOL Poor Kiyomasa. 🦍😥❤️🇨🇦
One thing that's always been apparent is how dependent each Gorilla is on the other gorilla's routines. If a gorilla's routine is off they will notice, and if it's off enough it leads to them losing energy, and then eventually depression. Humans are kinda like that, but maybe more independent in general. So if one of your family member's is depressed, or friends are, it won't necessarily lead to your own depression. But for gorilla's they seem not only more in tune, but more dependent on that.
Annie est très proche de shabani 🦍 et aime beaucoup son père ! C est pourquoi je pense que c est celle qui est le plus perturbée et stressée. Car elle reste solidaire de sa mère ai et néné. Et dois ressentir l énorme stresse de ai ... Shabani doit sentir que toutes lui en veulent.... Belle famille en tout cas j adore 🖤
I realize this video is from last week and things have improved somewhat. But it is still distressing to see Annie’s concave belly and the destabilization of this endearing family. Shabani and his little twin Annie are so damn cute! So be it if we are being anthropomorphic.
I always think it's Shabani's face with the sharpness of Nene's features. I always see Shabani when I see his face but with the sharper features of Nene.
Even though your video was Shabani you can’t seem to not focus on Annie. She really is alone her Mom seems to continue to reject her an Nene never liked her. Shabani an Kiyomasas fighting has isolated them all. The zookeepers take such good care of them an I know Annie will eat again she has a trim body type but stress is wearing her down
Some people don't look at the back of your posts, it was on the 9/2 so I have seen the latest upload & Annie is eating, so is Nene & Ai. This lands differently as it was after the drama & things have improved a little. It's sad, but it might get worse as they have no where to house Kiyomasa unless he eats some humble pie. ✌️ Edit: Sorry I missed the first minute of the video where you put it on the screen..
Hi Sonja, It must have really come as a shock to Kiyo to be disciplined for the first time in his life, hopefully Kiyo will eat humble pie and everything will get back to normal routine. Ai doesn't have her injuries on this video so there must have been more trouble later on this day.
@@glynisakabonniekenzie7664 G.Day Glynis, funny the whole thing took alot out of me. I realise how invested we are in the welfare of these beautiful gorilla's. Glad you pointed out Ai's wound because we don't know how she got it & people are saying Shabani did it with no proof. Mary said maybe Ai was doing something & her dizzy ass fell.😅 We may never know but I really want to kiss it better.🌺🌷 Kiyomasa as of latest video still hasn't made amends, I worry as there is no where to place him.🙆🙏
Kiyomasa needs to get over it now and stop sulking. Its because he not used to been scolded and usually has everything his way. Poor Gentaro is always getting scolded by momotaro but you don't see him sulking
Me da no sé ver a Annie tanto delgada para ser una gorila fémina Deben ayudar a esta bella señorita por favor. Kiyosama regresa a tu casa que todos están preocupados por ti
Annie va para el concurso miss universo por eso no quiere comer para estar en la línea. Ojalá le estén dando vitaminas para que no le vaya a dar anemia
Eu não estou preocupada com Kyomasa e sim com a Annie, antes da confusão ela já estava muito magra, agora piorou, ela fica a maior parte do tempo deitada, não tem energia, o que realmente está acontecendo? Porque tudo parece muito estranho, o único absurdo é o estado de saude da Annie, o que o Zoo está fazendo para reverter isso, porque o Zoo é responsável pela saúde dos gorilas, não estou vendo nenhuma atitude mais urgente, lamentável, vejo Shabani, acredito que preocupado com a Annie, até quando a Annie vai ficar nesse estado sem a intervenção do Zoo?
Makes me really sad to see them like this. I'm hoping things have gotten better since this video. Annie definitely needs to be checked out. She's looking so incredibly thin....
Poor Kiyomasa,, `he should not of flexed to Dad like that, son was puffing up, you cant do that to the leader of the house, plus your dad. Leader needs to show the rest who is Boss only he leads , when his son puffed up like that it was a direct threat to Shabani as leader. I dont think Kiyomasa, was fully committed or if he was testing his father to see what he would do, he found out quickly you dont play games like that . His daughter was trying to stop grandma and grabbed her pulled her down she new what would happen if she went after him. Its a great sceniro, you can see how they talk to each other just with there body movements and when Shabani seen his son puff up like that his whole dameaner changed, his eyes get black his back hair silver streak puffs up, when you see that its on . great video here you can learn a lot from this short family squabble🐒..
No me gusta la actitud que esta tomando Kiyosama se está aislando porque Sabanis lo ve como rival ha crecido mucho y Annis da lastim a verla tan delgada preocupada por Kiyosama Nene tan adulta como cuida de su hijo por favor los cuidadores deben resolver esta situacion
Annie looks so skinny and weak. Is anybody checking her health. She looks very week. Even Shabani looks little. I think I am going to stop watching this troop before something bad happens. It really breaks my heart.
Oh yes I saw today what everyone else can see..I was shocked honestly to see her little waist (the area under ribs) maybe she is stressed about the atmosphere. I really hope she starts to recover now she's eating. Beautiful little girl. And they get over their squabble soon .xxxx
Some of the comments are so off the mark. Some people really need to educate themselves on Gorilla behaviour! Stop humanising them and projecting your own human feelings onto them.
That's just condescending, people can feel what they feel without having to read everything. Most of the comments are out of concern for Annie being so skinny, ya don't need to read a book to know that...
@@sonjavandam1306 Remember when Momotaro(kyoto zoo) was ill and was kept inside, Kintaro got so thin worrying about dad and the whole family was really out of whack until Momotaro got better and was with everyone again. Nobody was playing and so that is their sad and worrying about Momo, same situation here except it's about Shabini and son and it's affecting all of them. Totally agree with you. It is out of concern only.
@@dreamcatcherjulie1 Even though I stopped watching Momo troop a few years ago, I always popped in now & then to see how beautiful Kinny was doing & followed the health of Momo & family until he got better. When you invest so much time with a troop you know well, it's natural for us humans to have empathy for our cousin's. That's how I feel anyway.🙏
Everyone is just worried about this troop and they are more human like then some think. They all look sad and unhealthy and someone has to step in and have Annie removed and cared for❤️❤️
I've got an idea. Stop reading other people's posts. Not unless you are an expert on gorillas (more than watching videos), you yourself aren't an expert and just guessing or expressing. So, if you want to express yourself in a condescending way, then others can express themselves as they see fit. If it bothers you, keep scrolling
What do you think Shabani and Kiyomasa were thinking and feeling in the scene where they stared at each other for so long?
シャバーニとキヨマサが長い間見つめ合っていたシーンで、彼らはお互いに何を思い何を感じていたと思いますか？
Kiyomasa was thinking Dad don't you love me anymore and Shabani was thinking this is hard but my son has to grow up and start his own family
シャバーニがこのとき怒っていたとしたら、キヨマサに向かって行ってたと思うので、『やっと顔を見せたか、キヨマサ』と安心してるんじゃないかな？
I think it is time for Kyiomasa to go i know shabani love his son so much 😢😢😢😢but shabani says son the dispute was now too much 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Poor Shabani I think he is sad 😢 Kyiomasa wille always fighting and he it does shabani hurt hey son why grab do me ein 💔😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
To the videographer. I have just watched the video, and you mentioned numerous times that the troop were "depressed." The troop are not depressed. That is a very harsh word to be throwing around, as depression is a serious illness and ignorant towards people who suffer badly. The troop were maybe "out of sorts" or "restless" but not depressed. Maybe think about the statements you make on these videos, as you could offend someone.
Awww I feel for the Shabani troop. Gorilla growing pains and transitions! I hope the zookeepers are on top of Annies health. Love to the Shabani troop! 🧡🦍🧡🦍
It goes to show you that these animals are heavily invested in each other. Their love and concern for each other runs deep. We as humans don't act like this when father and son fight, we certainly don't stop eating! They are very sensitive animals!,💗🦍🇺🇸 ! What will happen when Kiyo has to leave?? This troop will fall apart if they can't even find him! This is the down side of raising them in captivity ❤️
It almost looks like Shabani is in a therapy session with the zoo keeper when he is lying down. SHABANI "Oh sure, they always blame the Silverback, like it's my fault! Is it too much to ask for a little respect around here?" ZOO KEEPER "And how does that make you feel?" LOL Poor Kiyomasa. 🦍😥❤️🇨🇦
I like the way you think.🤣
Did you see when the zoo keeper puts lotion on Shabanis feet and hands , its hilarious.
It was adorable when they put lotion on his hands & feet through the bars.😅
One thing that's always been apparent is how dependent each Gorilla is on the other gorilla's routines. If a gorilla's routine is off they will notice, and if it's off enough it leads to them losing energy, and then eventually depression. Humans are kinda like that, but maybe more independent in general. So if one of your family member's is depressed, or friends are, it won't necessarily lead to your own depression. But for gorilla's they seem not only more in tune, but more dependent on that.
飼育員の方も膝を突き合わせて心配してますね
ゴリラは群れで生活していますが、動物園では人間も群れの一部なんですね
考え深い動画でした！
They are all so pitiful 🥺…… I sure hope the keepers make the right decisions and know what’s best❤❤❤
I do hope they are tending to Annie, she's fading before our eyes!
She is so thin.
Shabani was so very depressed and Ai still rejects her daughter when she’s looking for comfort!
12:30…that was so funny! 😢. I hope they will get it all worked out! ❤️🦍
Annie est très proche de shabani 🦍 et aime beaucoup son père ! C est pourquoi je pense que c est celle qui est le plus perturbée et stressée. Car elle reste solidaire de sa mère ai et néné. Et dois ressentir l énorme stresse de ai ... Shabani doit sentir que toutes lui en veulent.... Belle famille en tout cas j adore 🖤
I realize this video is from last week and things have improved somewhat. But it is still distressing to see Annie’s concave belly and the destabilization of this endearing family. Shabani and his little twin Annie are so damn cute! So be it if we are being anthropomorphic.
Exactly!😊❤
Kiyomasa il cima alle scale che si guarda tutta la scena, e proprio carino perché gli si vede solo la testa. Chissà cosa starà aspettando!!?🙂♥️🍀♥️🙈🙉🙊😊
Kiyomasa has Nene’s face. The older her gets the more he looks like her.
I always think it's Shabani's face with the sharpness of Nene's features. I always see Shabani when I see his face but with the sharper features of Nene.
@@evo2542 I hope he starts wrinkling his nose like Nene when he’s an old silverback
06:18 アイちゃんが壁を何度か叩いているが、下にいるキヨマサに『シャバーニがきたよー』って知らせてるのかな🤔
You guys should make a video on where the gorilla sleep
Poor Shabani😢
I think he's mentally tired.
Even though your video was Shabani you can’t seem to not focus on Annie. She really is alone her Mom seems to continue to reject her an Nene never liked her. Shabani an Kiyomasas fighting has isolated them all. The zookeepers take such good care of them an I know Annie will eat again she has a trim body type but stress is wearing her down
Exactly! Ai acts so cold to Annie.
Some people don't look at the back of your posts, it was on the 9/2 so I have seen the latest upload & Annie is eating, so is Nene & Ai. This lands differently as it was after the drama & things have improved a little. It's sad, but it might get worse as they have no where to house Kiyomasa unless he eats some humble pie. ✌️ Edit: Sorry I missed the first minute of the video where you put it on the screen..
Hi Sonja, It must have really come as a shock to Kiyo to be disciplined for the first time in his life, hopefully Kiyo will eat humble pie and everything will get back to normal routine. Ai doesn't have her injuries on this video so there must have been more trouble later on this day.
@@glynisakabonniekenzie7664 G.Day Glynis, funny the whole thing took alot out of me. I realise how invested we are in the welfare of these beautiful gorilla's. Glad you pointed out Ai's wound because we don't know how she got it & people are saying Shabani did it with no proof. Mary said maybe Ai was doing something & her dizzy ass fell.😅 We may never know but I really want to kiss it better.🌺🌷 Kiyomasa as of latest video still hasn't made amends, I worry as there is no where to place him.🙆🙏
Why is Kyi is acting the way he's acting, it's like he is afraid of his father now, when they were so close.
Annie🥺
シャバーニも、飼育員さんに、あーだこーだと、愚痴をこぼしてるのかな😅ここまで凹んでしまうと、下手に怒れないですね。
Annie esta realmente muy delgada y se les ve a todos demasiado tranquilos , espero esto pase pronto y vuelvan a estar unidos
It was so sweet seeing her wanting to be with AI and only her. I bet she felt torn between her love for Dad and her best friend Kiyo. 😢😢
Kiyomasa needs to get over it now and stop sulking.
Its because he not used to been scolded and usually has everything his way.
Poor Gentaro is always getting scolded by momotaro but you don't see him sulking
Kiyomasa need's to eat some humble pie 🥧
Kiyomasa was too much pampered by his over reacting mom. That's make him like that.
@@staypeace5955 yup so true 👍
Kiyo is a Mama's boy and has been spoiled by his parents . Ai used to also give him piggy back rides and attention when he was little also.
Me da no sé ver a Annie tanto delgada para ser una gorila fémina
Deben ayudar a esta bella señorita por favor.
Kiyosama regresa a tu casa que todos están preocupados por ti
Annie va para el concurso miss universo por eso no quiere comer para estar en la línea. Ojalá le estén dando vitaminas para que no le vaya a dar anemia
12:30 is Yoga time
Why is my beautiful Annie so thin😢
This depressing scene makes me wanna clean up that enclosure as it's filthy
Shabani looks so sad!
Annie seems to be a little upset with her dad.
Eu não estou preocupada com Kyomasa e sim com a Annie, antes da confusão ela já estava muito magra, agora piorou, ela fica a maior parte do tempo deitada, não tem energia, o que realmente está acontecendo? Porque tudo parece muito estranho, o único absurdo é o estado de saude da Annie, o que o Zoo está fazendo para reverter isso, porque o Zoo é responsável pela saúde dos gorilas, não estou vendo nenhuma atitude mais urgente, lamentável, vejo Shabani, acredito que preocupado com a Annie, até quando a Annie vai ficar nesse estado sem a intervenção do Zoo?
Makes me really sad to see them like this. I'm hoping things have gotten better since this video. Annie definitely needs to be checked out. She's looking so incredibly thin....
Poor Kiyomasa,, `he should not of flexed to Dad like that, son was puffing up, you cant do that to the leader of the house, plus your dad. Leader needs to show the rest who is Boss only he leads , when his son puffed up like that it was a direct threat to Shabani as leader. I dont think Kiyomasa, was fully committed or if he was testing his father to see what he would do, he found out quickly you dont play games like that . His daughter was trying to stop grandma and grabbed her pulled her down she new what would happen if she went after him. Its a great sceniro, you can see how they talk to each other just with there body movements and when Shabani seen his son puff up like that his whole dameaner changed, his eyes get black his back hair silver streak puffs up, when you see that its on . great video here you can learn a lot from this short family squabble🐒..
Anyone know what it looks like in the basement ?
The basement is not open to the public, but I heard there are three rooms for the gorillas.
No me gusta la actitud que esta tomando Kiyosama se está aislando porque Sabanis lo ve como rival ha crecido mucho y Annis da lastim a verla tan delgada preocupada por Kiyosama Nene tan adulta como cuida de su hijo por favor los cuidadores deben resolver esta situacion
It's going to be sad when they eventually separate them
Annie looks so skinny and weak. Is anybody checking her health. She looks very week. Even Shabani looks little. I think I am going to stop watching this troop before something bad happens. It really breaks my heart.
She is getting better and eating better.😊
Oh yes I saw today what everyone else can see..I was shocked honestly to see her little waist (the area under ribs) maybe she is stressed about the atmosphere. I really hope she starts to recover now she's eating. Beautiful little girl. And they get over their squabble soon .xxxx
These stories are so much taken out of the creators arse.
Being on that concrete 24/7 would be terrible.
They have access to the outdoors during the day.
they need to clean the pen,,its almost as bad as the kyoto zoo
I’m so sad to see
The Shabani Family so sad with each other ❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢
Quem vocês pensam que são para ter o direito de causar tanto sofrimento? Que crimes eles cometeram para estarem enjaulados?😡
I think they must move Kiyomasa.
Why is Annie so thin? Is she sick?
Do you know how AI’s battle wounds are?
I haven't been able to visit the zoo yet, so I don't know how Ai's injury is going. I will let you know in the next few days.
@@SomethingAboutGorillas Thank you!
No me gusta las condiciones que viven en el cemento frío no tienen las plantas d3 su agrado para comer
Some of the comments are so off the mark. Some people really need to educate themselves on Gorilla behaviour! Stop humanising them and projecting your own human feelings onto them.
That's just condescending, people can feel what they feel without having to read everything. Most of the comments are out of concern for Annie being so skinny, ya don't need to read a book to know that...
@@sonjavandam1306 Remember when Momotaro(kyoto zoo) was ill and was kept inside, Kintaro got so thin worrying about dad and the whole family was really out of whack until Momotaro got better and was with everyone again. Nobody was playing and so that is their sad and worrying about Momo, same situation here except it's about Shabini and son and it's affecting all of them. Totally agree with you. It is out of concern only.
@@dreamcatcherjulie1 Even though I stopped watching Momo troop a few years ago, I always popped in now & then to see how beautiful Kinny was doing & followed the health of Momo & family until he got better. When you invest so much time with a troop you know well, it's natural for us humans to have empathy for our cousin's.
That's how I feel anyway.🙏
Everyone is just worried about this troop and they are more human like then some think. They all look sad and unhealthy and someone has to step in and have Annie removed and cared for❤️❤️
I've got an idea. Stop reading other people's posts. Not unless you are an expert on gorillas (more than watching videos), you yourself aren't an expert and just guessing or expressing.
So, if you want to express yourself in a condescending way, then others can express themselves as they see fit.
If it bothers you, keep scrolling
Higashiyama Zoo Gorilla Family Movie
This is hard to watch. I wish it would be against the law for anybody to own and operate a zoo.
DO SOMETHING TO THIS PROBLEM! HE IS REALLY BAD FOR THE GROUP !!
Shabani made everyone uncomfortable They don't know what to do rt now except Ai, she knows her man cray
Kiyo is the one that needs to stop sulking. Shabani as the silverback has all the right to discipline him period!