Thank you!! My children watched with me... Blood from Alberta, Blackfoot from Alberta and Cree from Alberta... They want to make one now!!! Your sharing of this is so important !! You rock !
Thank you for such a nice video. It was very clear. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us "peeps" (smiles). I will be trying this soon. Yes, a drum stick video would be nice and also an embellishment comment or two on how to dress it up, hang it up, etc. One minor suggestion: Please next time slow down and make sure the technique is clear a few times, before fast forwarding. Again, Thank you and I do appreciate the instruction you provided!
Very nice video, thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have almost the exact same sort of system for flatting, only I got a 2 foot square marble floor tile with 60 grit paper glued on with spray adhesive. It works fantastic for doing segmented shells to get perfect flush joints. Instead of a torch use a piece of soft graphite and draw 2 or 3 lines all round the edge to show up any low spots, when theres no graphite lines left on the edge of the shell when you sanded, its flat. Believe me the segmented type shells are STRONG. No word of a lie, I had a 14 x 6 shell, 1/4 inch finished thickness, fall off a shelf, land on the concrete floor and it bounced (the shell not the floor) , but not one joint shattered. I am almost 6 foot tall, and the shelf was above my head. I was amazed! If you have a good accurate band saw the segments are easy to do. Can I ask please, did you glue up and ring-clamp the stave's for the shell and THEN drill the holes for the dowel reinforcements once that glue up had cured? It looks like it would be a nightmare trying to glue dowels in, then line up all the staves and then strap them tight.
I normally test drop my rims every now an then, About five feet from the floor. If they break, I burn them. After I glue the rim together, I let them cure for 24hrs, with the ratchet clamp on, after that i drill the holes and peg them with dowel.
Wonderful how you made the drum ndn joe! Must sound awesome!?...i have 2 hand drums one is deer hide and the other one is moose hide wonderful.wonderful sound with moose!! Will tiniki ndn joe!
I will never use hot water again to soak the skin it shrinks and hardens. I been making drums for years now think I am on my 40th drum now.i like this video good job.
Yes sir, I made that mistake many times before , now it's always cold, even tho takes longer and the Outcome is a great sounding drum. Thank you for watching
ive ordered 2 elk hides so far im still new to making my own drums but if u still make them i know a place here in washington you can get them between $150 and $195
Joe, thanks for the video. I'm mixed Cherokee and white but It's always good to know how things are done and how to do them, as well. Question: When you were lacing, is the reason the thongs are twisted, to keep them closer together so that when you make the handle its easier to do the wraps and the weave? The vid was very easy to follow and quite detailed! Thanks, again!
AWESOME! TRADITIONAL with the exception of the frame which would have been hollowed out and scraped log? Can you give some advice on finishing and applying stains/pigments to the surface? Very well done vid!!!
I'm not into using die in my drums never did, the log story is true. I was told by some elders form Nova Scotia reserves about how they used to drum on a Hollow Log that was half buried in the ground , the other side was used as the drum, they would tap the outside of the log and that's how they achieved the one of the first drums. The story keeps going on after that..
Hi Joe it’s an honour to watch your video I am going to be getting a goats hide or I have the choice to get kangaroo as deer and elk is expensive here in Australia but is it the same process with a soft hide as you have done with a raw hide. Also on your 19 inch board you have the spaces between each set of holes how wide is the spaces please. As you did Joe mention how far apart the little holes are. I have a 20 inch ring to now make my own Drum with the help and tips you have provide. Thank you so much Joe for your help loved your video but if you have any other tips to give would be very much appreciated hugs and blessings Gina
I wonder what it looked like once dry and what it would of sounded like. Do you decorate it with symbols? If you do. What would you use to paint or stain it with? Loved your teaching and video. This was the first time I got to see how a beautiful drum was made. It is really good.
I really don't decor my drums, I love to make them for others and always leave it to the individual to decor their own drums. I do Varnish the rim to protect from the elements. From what I hear , Oaker, red, yellow are very popular , acrylic paint and so on .. Thank you for watching
Hey Joe where you going with that drum in your hand I been making some drums been a while I just started making the hoop I used to make 8 sided easier I need to know what glue works cause the wood glue I got dont hold up good enough it keeps coming loose in pulling it still holds once dry but it moves my friend taught me how to make them but I need help bro Thanks for the video
Like the video. Like the speeded up parts where most would just go through long boring cutting or description. I do have a question regarding your handle and I also noted this on another hand drum video. When you tie the 4 sections together you use an overhand knot. Those knots look really bulky, couldn't you use the lace and weave it through somehow to prevent that huge bulky knot?
good job..have made 15 or so drums,but all were made with fresh rawhide,deer and elk..my question,i processed 6 rawhides 5 yrs ago ,6 deer and one elk,,is this too long of a time period to make drums from ..thanks
jack george I really see nothing wrong with the hides being processed, stored for that long . I've seen drum hides that last more than a 10 years on a drum.
As you could see I was using my jig that I've pre measure where each hole would be placed, if you don't have a jig , I would fold the circle in half and Mark each end, then fold the marks together forming another half and Mark an so on . Plus I used my finger to space out the two holes .. I hope this helps out Joe
Joey Peterpaul that does help what should the measurements be? And how can I make my own jig? Sorry to be a pain I have been called to start making healing drums in Australia I’m entering into shamanic work and just want to do it right Btw your video is super good very informative x
Interesting video. As a hobby and part-time job I also do native crafts (Cherokee) but have yet to do drums. Also, though aware you're from Canada, which nation do you belong to out of curiosity? Thanks. :)
Cool. I saw the Mikmaq (more used to seeing it spelled "Micmac") flag in the little store you visit in a couple of videos but all these other videos you do show mostly Cree. So it had me wondering. You do chip carving? From what they say that's supposed to be an important art form in your culture.
Have you restretched a drum? I have a drum but when its cold it sags. I have to reheat it quite a bit for it to tighten. I'm thinking of restretching it.
@@joe0374 I was gifted one. It is tacked and not laced. So I was thinking of taking out the tacks.. Soak it then retack to frame but pull it tight some. That sound about right?
Might just have to ask my grandma to hunt one down for me because I have a lot of Huskies and taking care of all 8 of them and paying my bills and rent, I wouldn't have enough money just to buy some skin. Also do you think deer skin would work? Around were I live we have white tailed deer.
Remember if it doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to, you can always re soak the hide and re do it again. Trial and error is the best way to learn some times. Joe
Joe Peterpaul Sometimes the hide doesn't dry flat on the rim. I've got a couple of spots where it raises up away from the rim while it dries. What can I do to fix this and prevent it from happening again?
Depends on how thick the skin is , Normally i'll let it soak till it gets soft , pliable and easy to work with. More than a couple of hours for sure .. If you have to cut lacing , make sure your scissors can cut threw it.
I been making drums for a few years now ,but the frame size I use are to small I need something to match the power of my voice for my music on my channel.and thanks go the reply.
Not sure if their site is up, there is a phone number that you can phone and find out if they still sell hide. Iroqrafts - Location: 1880 Tuscarora Rd, Ohsweken ON Contact: (519) 445-0414 Try them out.
I'm Cree
And this video helped me alot thank you
u have to be the best diy channel
Thanx !
Thank you!! My children watched with me... Blood from Alberta, Blackfoot from Alberta and Cree from Alberta... They want to make one now!!! Your sharing of this is so important !! You rock !
+Kimmy Songbird Thanks
This video is well done. Thank you for the effort.
I'm in a drumming group down in Rincon reservation and we're making hand drums, this video helped me a lot with the handle lacing thank you so much
I'm glad you found this video helpful. From the East Coast Canada
Awesome! Thank you for sharing your process and wisdom
Thank you for such a nice video. It was very clear. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us "peeps" (smiles). I will be trying this soon. Yes, a drum stick video would be nice and also an embellishment comment or two on how to dress it up, hang it up, etc. One minor suggestion: Please next time slow down and make sure the technique is clear a few times, before fast forwarding. Again, Thank you and I do appreciate the instruction you provided!
Thanks so much! Super informative. I love that you didn’t edit out when things broke. It happens right? Keep posting Joe!
Great video, thank you I needed to learn the lacing.
Your Welcome .. Have fun singing
Very nice video, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I have almost the exact same sort of system for flatting, only I got a 2 foot square marble floor tile with 60 grit paper glued on with spray adhesive. It works fantastic for doing segmented shells to get perfect flush joints. Instead of a torch use a piece of soft graphite and draw 2 or 3 lines all round the edge to show up any low spots, when theres no graphite lines left on the edge of the shell when you sanded, its flat.
Believe me the segmented type shells are STRONG. No word of a lie, I had a 14 x 6 shell, 1/4 inch finished thickness, fall off a shelf, land on the concrete floor and it bounced (the shell not the floor) , but not one joint shattered. I am almost 6 foot tall, and the shelf was above my head. I was amazed! If you have a good accurate band saw the segments are easy to do.
Can I ask please, did you glue up and ring-clamp the stave's for the shell and THEN drill the holes for the dowel reinforcements once that glue up had cured? It looks like it would be a nightmare trying to glue dowels in, then line up all the staves and then strap them tight.
I normally test drop my rims every now an then, About five feet from the floor. If they break, I burn them.
After I glue the rim together, I let them cure for 24hrs, with the ratchet clamp on, after that i drill the holes and peg them with dowel.
Wonderful how you made the drum ndn joe! Must sound awesome!?...i have 2 hand drums one is deer hide and the other one is moose hide wonderful.wonderful sound with moose!! Will tiniki ndn joe!
I will never use hot water again to soak the skin it shrinks and hardens. I been making drums for years now think I am on my 40th drum now.i like this video good job.
Yes sir, I made that mistake many times before , now it's always cold, even tho takes longer and the Outcome is a great sounding drum.
Thank you for watching
That was very good and informative. Thanks!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your skills!
thanks
i think u mske the best hand drums ever
ive ordered 2 elk hides so far im still new to making my own drums but if u still make them i know a place here in washington you can get them between $150 and $195
Great video. May I ask, how do you set the drum to dry. Do you hang it? Let it sit? Not sure?
Hell yes,,,,good video.
U can tell that's going to be a nice tuned hand drum
Joe, thanks for the video. I'm mixed Cherokee and white but It's always good to know how things are done and how to do them, as well.
Question: When you were lacing, is the reason the thongs are twisted, to keep them closer together so that when you make the handle its easier to do the wraps and the weave?
The vid was very easy to follow and quite detailed!
Thanks, again!
Nice Drum! I like your weaving on the handle.
+Dallas Nelson Thank you
AWESOME! TRADITIONAL with the exception of the frame which would have been hollowed out and scraped log? Can you give some advice on finishing and applying stains/pigments to the surface? Very well done vid!!!
I'm not into using die in my drums never did, the log story is true. I was told by some elders form Nova Scotia reserves about how they used to drum on a Hollow Log that was half buried in the ground , the other side was used as the drum, they would tap the outside of the log and that's how they achieved the one of the first drums. The story keeps going on after that..
how much do the hand drums cost u make really buetiful drums
Would love to see and hear how the drum turned out when it was completely dried :) Lovely video :)
Unfortunately I don't the drum no more, Sold it to a good friend, It did turn out nice and sounded great . Thanks
Hi Joe it’s an honour to watch your video I am going to be getting a goats hide or I have the choice to get kangaroo as deer and elk is expensive here in Australia but is it the same process with a soft hide as you have done with a raw hide. Also on your 19 inch board you have the spaces between each set of holes how wide is the spaces please. As you did Joe mention how far apart the little holes are. I have a 20 inch ring to now make my own Drum with the help and tips you have provide. Thank you so much Joe for your help loved your video but if you have any other tips to give would be very much appreciated hugs and blessings Gina
I do beleave the little holes are about 1 inch apart.
Yes I knew that one but how many cm or inches are the 16 slice sections on your 19 inch board thanks Joe that’s the part I am enquiring about
I wonder what it looked like once dry and what it would of sounded like. Do you decorate it with symbols? If you do. What would you use to paint or stain it with? Loved your teaching and video. This was the first time I got to see how a beautiful drum was made. It is really good.
I really don't decor my drums, I love to make them for others and always leave it to the individual to decor their own drums.
I do Varnish the rim to protect from the elements.
From what I hear , Oaker, red, yellow are very popular , acrylic paint and so on .. Thank you for watching
Hey Joe where you going with that drum in your hand I been making some drums been a while I just started making the hoop I used to make 8 sided easier I need to know what glue works cause the wood glue I got dont hold up good enough it keeps coming loose in pulling it still holds once dry but it moves my friend taught me how to make them but I need help bro Thanks for the video
nice video. very helpful.
Like the video. Like the speeded up parts where most would just go through long boring cutting or description.
I do have a question regarding your handle and I also noted this on another hand drum video. When you tie the 4 sections together you use an overhand knot. Those knots look really bulky, couldn't you use the lace and weave it through somehow to prevent that huge bulky knot?
+Elc0chin0 I do weave my handles , it depends really on the person , once the hide dries it shrinks.
I would love to see how you make your drum sticks.
fmx8383 Maybe sometime in the future i'll make another vid on drum sticks
good job..have made 15 or so drums,but all were made with fresh rawhide,deer and elk..my question,i processed 6 rawhides 5 yrs ago ,6 deer and one elk,,is this too long of a time period to make drums from ..thanks
jack george I really see nothing wrong with the hides being processed, stored for that long . I've seen drum hides that last more than a 10 years on a drum.
With the measuring how do I know what space to put between the holes
Please
As you could see I was using my jig that I've pre measure where each hole would be placed, if you don't have a jig , I would fold the circle in half and Mark each end, then fold the marks together forming another half and Mark an so on . Plus I used my finger to space out the two holes .. I hope this helps out
Joe
Joey Peterpaul that does help what should the measurements be?
And how can I make my own jig?
Sorry to be a pain I have been called to start making healing drums in Australia I’m entering into shamanic work and just want to do it right
Btw your video is super good very informative x
Love your work now where can i buy one. pls let me know.
luv luv ur handle beautiful
Interesting video. As a hobby and part-time job I also do native crafts (Cherokee) but have yet to do drums. Also, though aware you're from Canada, which nation do you belong to out of curiosity? Thanks. :)
Mikmaq on the East Coast of canada.
Cool. I saw the Mikmaq (more used to seeing it spelled "Micmac") flag in the little store you visit in a couple of videos but all these other videos you do show mostly Cree. So it had me wondering. You do chip carving? From what they say that's supposed to be an important art form in your culture.
Have you restretched a drum? I have a drum but when its cold it sags. I have to reheat it quite a bit for it to tighten. I'm thinking of restretching it.
Yes I have many of Times
@@joe0374 I was gifted one. It is tacked and not laced. So I was thinking of taking out the tacks.. Soak it then retack to frame but pull it tight some. That sound about right?
Might just have to ask my grandma to hunt one down for me because I have a lot of Huskies and taking care of all 8 of them and paying my bills and rent, I wouldn't have enough money just to buy some skin. Also do you think deer skin would work? Around were I live we have white tailed deer.
Yes sir, Deer will work, the hides this time of the year are great, due to the change of season to winter.
Sooo, by all means use deer if you have it.
thank you this was wonderful to watch...music from your drums would be nice too.
Thanks .. I make some of my own music on some other vids
Hey do you sale hand drums or either drum rings?
Nice work joe where are you from I’m ditidaht
How much bigger do you cut the hide for the drum ring? 2 inches from the rim, 3 inches? Thanks!
It was about 2 inches, 3 inches if you wanna over lap the ring.
Thank you sir!
Remember if it doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to, you can always re soak the hide and re do it again. Trial and error is the best way to learn some times.
Joe
Joe Peterpaul
Sometimes the hide doesn't dry flat on the rim. I've got a couple of spots where it raises up away from the rim while it dries. What can I do to fix this and prevent it from happening again?
What I do after everything is done , is i'll take left over lacing wrap it around the outside of the rim to prevent that from happening
Sweet
What would you recommend on how long I should soak a skin for?
Depends on how thick the skin is , Normally i'll let it soak till it gets soft , pliable and easy to work with.
More than a couple of hours for sure .. If you have to cut lacing , make sure your scissors can cut threw it.
I been making drums for a few years now ,but the frame size I use are to small I need something to match the power of my voice for my music on my channel.and thanks go the reply.
You must have a strong voice .. Sing Loud
Just got a elk skin and a 15"rim
Awesome .. Are you working on it right now or are you soaking the hide
How much for a ring?
40bux
@@joe0374 add me on face book
Owsow muskwa
Do you sell just hoops?
I do
How do I purchase from you?
any wisdom to why a newly weaved drum would vibrate?
how much would u sell one to me with the cheapest hide
Ar you from India, wow
Hehehe ... Nooo, From the East Coast of Canada
Whats the angle of pieces ?
11.25 degrees
jeez what was that website on the computer
Not sure if their site is up, there is a phone number that you can phone and find out if they still sell hide.
Iroqrafts - Location: 1880 Tuscarora Rd, Ohsweken ON
Contact: (519) 445-0414
Try them out.
@@joe0374 thnx appreciate it. i do want to start buying hide and selling drums or kits like the video btw
@@lucioavila63 No Problem, If your in Canada Halfords is another great place to shop at ,if you want try hunting your hide
I also gots buffalo fuzzzzzz for the drum sticks.
make sorry and with the rim red pine
beautiful i mean sorry
i like yhis
The for responding and for the help, P.S I'm not a sir, I'm female. 😂
"The" was supposed to say "thx".😯😤
Thank you. Also I'm not a sir,I'm female. 😂
Oops ... My Bad, Yes Mam . Have your self a great day.
Joe Peterpaul It's OK. And thank you, you have a nice day too. 😊
mske
so contact with me that leather skin
it's hide not skin
Ok
hello we make a leather drum goat skin cow skin calf skin bufflow skin any human want a leather
Enoosentt KURRI wow, where are you from?
i am from pakistan
i am from pakistan my father leather working
I didn't know that you also have drum makers in your country , now that is cool.