Great work Owen you are an amazing person to keep bringing people to talk about this issue. I haven't seen any clips of you on mainstream media lately. Hopefully you get back on there soon to win over the boomers.
Since the end of WW2 Australia has been destroyed beyond repair both ecologically and socially . This was due to covert foreign psychopathic controlled . Currently to accelerate the total destruction . Millions of Third World Migrants are flooding in ...
Lets do a fact check on this ´apartheid claim´ 1) Do Palestine have a Palestinian Government - YES 2) Do Palestine make their own laws and rules - YES 3) Do Palestinians own and run their own businesses - YES 4) And until they voted in despotic Hamas, did they have a democratic right to hold elections and choose their own Government - YES 5) Are any Israelis in position of power in Palestine - NO The only ´Apartheid´ being practiced is against the Israelis. The racial discrimination based on colour and birth is against Israelis. These fact are all true. Do your research.
Indeed, South Africa 🇿🇦 knows will how to dismantle Apartheid from Israel, for the liberation of Palestine 🇵🇸. *_South Africa 🇿🇦 stands with Palestine! Now and forever!_* 🇵🇸
I am actually German, and while my fellow Germans cannot bring themselves to even think that Israel might be in the wrong, I grew up in Cape Town, and I learned about Apartheid and colonialism in school, and I am glad I did. Very proud of SA.
I remember my parents teaching me about the power of boycotting. They never bought anything that came from S/A until the day apartheid ended, neither have they bought Israeli products for years. The wisdom of the elders in my family has always humbled me, and this wisdom is always being passed on. In a nutshell be a human and never support the oppression of any other...
I’m 76, I know boycotts work. I would never buy Israeli products. We can also buy Palestinian products, we all need to do what we can, I’m thankful I can still march, but boycotting is a powerful tool. Viva Palestine.
Brilliant, brilliant guest and interview!!! As a fellow former South African (Cape Tonian) I salute his honesty, moral integrity and strength of conviction! It's people like Andrew and his family who are the real moral heroes we need to listen to!!!
yes, I agree. It would be much more impactful if only Owen Jones weren't considered an antisemite... for being a whistle blower... Years ago... And not because Israel labels everyone antisemetic...
I'd forgotten what I had done, how I had fought. And here I am again, but this is different. These dudes are supported by our politicians. That's where we need to start. I find talking to the person next to me is as rewarding as commenting here. Strength to you 🤗 Peace and freedom for Palestine 💪✌️
Even if there are differences in the apartheid spectrum no one can doubt clear cut persecution, dehumanisation and systematic destruction of human spirit in SA and Palestine. That practice had existed in occupied West Bank and Gaza way before October 8. Many human beings around the world are watching it from the lens of injustice and the western politicians are bent backwards to justify injustice exercised by Israel.
How about we stand up for ourselves? The ANC has NO right to lecture ANYONE on the treatment of people. Disgusting, corrupt and morally bankrupt politicians are all as bad as each other.
Yes were thousands of South African children are murdered every year and thousands of South African children give birth to children. Oh how wonderful freedom is!
Another riveting interview. As a white South African who lived in South Africa during those awful, horrific years, it is a constant deep sadness for me that I wasn’t more active and more vocal during that time. I had no real platform except as a teacher, and I spent many years teaching both black and white high school students, trying to open minds and support individual struggles. It came to the point where my sense of helplessness overwhelmed me and I left. I’m back in South Africa now and every day I’m almost on my knees with gratitude that this beautiful country is where is it today. My support for Palestine is absolutely unconditional. Keep on keeping on Owen.
Why were you poor white? Were your parents not able to make use of the opportunities and privileges made available to all white people? Did they have mental or addiction problems? @@ritamedina-molina8550
Thank You Andrew for talking about our South African Apartheid system. I am in my 70's, being of color and having grown up in the Apartheid system. My heart is completely with the Palestinians. Their Apartheid is so much worse, its Brutal 💔
Thank you for speaking out, I think its so important that people hear from people like you who grew up in that system, no one, other then Palestinians themselves, are better to speak on apartheid in Israel. It seems so crazy to me that there are people out there who still deny that Israel is an apartheid state, considering how much evidence there is it almost feels like people who deny this live in a whole different reality.
I was actually really surprised but so grateful that South Africa has recognised that what is happening to Palestinians is indeed apartheid and oppression. I saw a video today of a sniper having shot a baby and father in Gaza as they were walking, the father as dying puts his hands on his daughter who is already shot dead. I am just truly sickened by Israel 's brutality. What makes me feel better is that there is always an end for the opressers and Israel will see its end, humanity always wins over Evil. 😢
Thought the newest nation would have known better, with its many constituents grandparents having gone through so much in another place and time, but greed (oil), knows no bounds. Never mind a better view of the Med.
Happening now: The Israeli Foreign Ministry sends urgent messages to all world leaders through their embassies to condemn South Africa's lawsuit before the International Court of Justice. They are scared to death, as the lawsuit is fat and loaded of crimes.
@@brian33270And are you aware that that was a (albeit horrible) response on 75 years of apartheid, occupation, oppression, land grabbing and killing of civilians and children? Where is YOUR understanding here now? And where is YOUR compassion with 30.000 people killed in a few months, 40% children (who definitly were not responsible for 7th of oct). Stop defending genocide. Israel is not the greatest "victim" here. And yes, OP understood what the 7th would provoke and that it would mean immense suffering for civilians in Gaza, bc Israel has been rather clear in their capacity for cruelty for a long time (way before the 7th).
“You can’t go about your daily life if you could conceive what is happening in Gaza” As an affluent agnostic person living in İstanbul this is what’s happening to me.
Me too. I’m in the US, greater-metro NYC. I start my first day of university classes way up north of here in ten days. I still haven’t confirmed my housing assignment so I can pay the first bill in five days. I don’t even have it together enough to go to DC for the protest in a few days.
We have that's why their is such an outcry through the world,I am so sorry for what has been don't to you, we have suffered so much with you,we have been depressed and cried a million tears every day for you and prayed a million prayers for you,and spoken up for you exactly as Andrew Feinstein describes,we have been insulted and suspended and abused for standing with Palistine but we will never give up..❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Having spent my life in Greece I have always felt that the greek society has always had feelings of solidarity and understanding for Palestinians. A few years ago our politicians did too. Not now, unfortunately. But many greeks never stopped caring, worrying, getting informed and helping in any way possible. Personally I admire your courage and the love for your motherland. I hope your suffering will soon end up in peace and freedom! ❤️
Having lived through the worst of apartheid, I have always said what Israel has done for over 70 years has been way, way worse than south african apartheid
You understand any claims of apartheid could only ever possibly apply to Israel proper and not Gaza or West Bank, right? You can't have apartheid with an occupied territory. If that were the case, the Western occupation of Germany was also apartheid, so was Soviet occupation of Germany, so was German occupation of European countries, etc. Basically every single military occupation in history would be "apartheid". And then the word has no meaning anymore.
@MustardSkaven what the hell are you talking about? Let me get Julius Malema to explain it to you. Unless you see anything remotely close to apartheid or living under apartheid or an ancestors of slave.
Another magnificent guest. On a selfish yet embarrassing note, since Oct 7th, I have learnt so much about our world. It has been so depressing with feelings of helplessness. So reassuring to know there are brilliantly powerful people out there who are on the side of humanity, love, and care.
Nelson Mandela would not have supported Hamas. He supported the Palestinian right to self-determination. Big difference. He wasn't into Jihadism masked as nationalism
Thank you Owen and Andrew. As a South African, thank for giving Andrew the platform to discuss our struggle and relationship with the Palestinian people ❤🇵🇸🇿🇦
You both are people ... no ... human beings with the moral compass intact and pointing straight at what makes us humans. Thank you so much for this deep reaching interview and also insight into SA Apartheid. We took to the streets in my young days in Switzerland in support of Nelson "Madiba" Mandela - may he rest in eternal peace 🙏🙏 - and I feel honoured to have had the privilege to listen to Andrew Feinstein. Thank you and stay safe!!
Eloquent, articulate and just an absolute pleasure to have listened to! Please could you invite Andrew again and again, he is an absolute gem. Thank you, well done with this interview, it was intriguing, interesting and informative 👏
Agree wholeheartedly with the last statement, " Palestine is the moral issue of the times!!! " Anyone with principles and morality will be unable to stay away or be blind to what is happening!!!
Listening from South Africa 🇿🇦 and can’t be more grateful for this to be in the public domain. Courage in adversity! 🇵🇸Truth to power. Praying this genocide end’s & reflection on our global morality ensues because when one turns one’s eyes on injustice humanity looses! Tomorrow who’s next…
A truly unique point of view that only a South African can give. Thank you Andrew for all you've done for our country and our people and for what you continue to do.✌🇿🇦
the goal of apartheid in south Africa is to maintain dominance of minority white Afrikaans in politics and economy, while in Israel it is designed to break Palestinians will to continue to live on their land, and facilitate the ethnic cleansing.
$500 Billion dollars worth of Gas has been discovered off Gazan shores. That plus the value of nearly 20 miles of shoreline are factored into their plans.
The goal of apartheid in South Africa was to steal the gold and diamonds. Highest exporter in the world during apartheid, the South African rand was stronger than the GBP.
And I'm finding it more and more unacceptable that they've been allowed to do whatever they want - and what they want is to do whatever they please. It's beyond disgusting. But the effing gaslighting about "antisemitism" should come with criminal charges.
Apsrtheid should be written with a capital A as it was the name of a system exclusively to SA. What Israel has is a thousand times worse, so not Apartheid.
Thank you Owen for spreading the knowledge of Palestine one interview at a time. Daily, weekly, monthly, you have expanded the minds of so many. Knowledge is a powerful tool.
Knowledge according to Owen, who fixates on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, demonises Israel and avoids discussing real genocides like in Syria, where Bashir Al Hassad poisoned his own people. What a hero Owen is
that's clearly false and demonstrates his racism and moral vacuity. firstly, ABORTION is the most important. In uk alone something like 100 000+ lives are snuffed out every year! Just 2-3 years of abortion in uk kills more human lives than entire arab israeli conflict. ever. secondly more lives have been ended in yemen since 2014 than in entire arab israeli conflict! Andrew is morally blind.
Thank you again, another insightful and interesting interview. Please keep using your voices to speak out and call out the atrocities happening, not only across the globe, but more so in Palistine and for the Palistinians who are being exterminated. Shame on all those who conspire and collude with the Israeli defence.
The truth wil always reveal I live in south Africa ur guests talking the truth iam so happy that south Africa 🇿🇦 taking Israel to the ICJ court other countries needs to follow
@@hanobeukes3918 Exactly. They don't and both Jones and Feinstein know very little about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Look on RUclips for a brilliant journalist called Haviv Rettig Gur. You will understand very quickly how limited these journalists are
For the first time after listening to such a profoundly important interview, I can actually feel a little bit of hope that maybe just maybe, justice is on its way to Palestine after75 years of struggle and incomprehensible suffering. ❤
Extremely clear, thorough, and powerful interview from someone who stood with Nelson Mandela against injustice and is standing up again now. Thank you Owen and Andrew. Please like this video and increase the reach. Let’s not let those who are dying in Gaza while exposing the horrors that they are witnessing die in vain.
Thank you! As a German who is just experiencing how the freedom of speech as guaranteed by our constitution has been restricted by the government and people are frightened to speak out, it is a relief to get thoughtful voices based on the principles of the general human rights. As of now everybody in Germany who gets a funding by the government has to sign an agreement to conform to the IHRA definition of antisemitism, meaning that basically every critique of the Israeli system is deemed antisemitic and will lead to the loss of fundings. The silence and opportunism of the cultural sector and media is the most shocking.
The only way to change that, is to fight the system. Perhaps it's easy for me to say as a South African. Perhaps it's in our blood to always stand up to bullies. Question for your German people: why are you so accepting of dictatorships? Let's face it, it's exactly what you've described and of course, we know your history. Is it not time to change this?
And, if some politicians have their way, someone who immigrated to Germany, and became a citizen, would lose their citizenship and face deportation ... for criticizing another country! !
You're getting some great interviews Owen; intellects like Andrew's really help us to understand the forces driving social and environmental destruction. That in turn helps us to be better advocates and activists, even if it's just in discussions with family and friends.
Definitely one of the most powerful interviews you've ever done! Thank you Owen...I identify with Andrew Feinstein he is a true South African. Thank you Andrew ❤️🇿🇦🇵🇸
I haven't even watch this yet, saw my fellow South African Andrew on the thumb nail and had to express my absolute delight to see him on this channel! ❤🇿🇦
Massive props to Andrew. Always liked his words. I met Desmond Tutu back in the early eighties in Brussels. He was the first person I encountered who made this comparison. I knew nothing about Palestine at the time, and he led me to the facts. He also said it was worse than apartheid in SA. It's been really telling that the loudest voices in opposition to Israel's actions have been the South Africans and the Irish. People who really grok solidarity. None of the cosplayers ever got it.
Hi there Owen, your interview with Andrew Feinstein, for me growing up in Apartheid era South Africa and having spend over 3 years in Israel really struck a cord with me. Brilliant. Many thanks and solidarity. Eric
Amazing, brilliant interview! I teared up as well in the end. Thank you so much for your work, Owen. The least we can do is inform ourselves and bear witness to injustice. 🙏🏻
it seems to me he is a hammer and sees everything as a nail youtube channels are an apartheid to youtube companys are apartheid to teh government and employees are apartheid to there jobs veiwers are apartheid to youtube channels the point is if you spend your whole life looking for apartheid your gonna find it everywhere and your gonna have arguments for why its an apartheid in a moments notice
@@canteluna You are incorrect. Israel is a blatant Apartheid state, but don't take my word for it. Go to the *Amnesty International website* and see for yourself that Israel is an Apartheid State. Or even Google *_B'tselem Apartheid_* to see the *Israeli Human Rights organization classify Israel as an Apartheid state.*
Genuine compassion from a mainstream journalist here is something that is sadly so rare. If the media had an ounce of the compassion and courage that you have we'd be in a much better world. Also, thank you for such a brilliant interview. Andrew is a hero. Had me teary towards the end, powerful and inspiring words.
He only woke up in as far that he will lose the election this year,thats all..he don't care about Palistine and every child being killed..@celestialtreetarot4260
A brilliant and in depth interview. Many thanks for the guest's personal experience and insight into the nature of apartheid and the brutal genocide in Palestine.
This interview took place a month before Andrew Feinstein was chosen to stand against Keir Starmer in the forthcoming GE which makes it all the more relevant. Especially to Holborn and St Pancras constituency.
Well bloody said Andrew. Thanks for expressing what every South African can see, esp. white South Africans who woke up to reality. You are a national treasure and a much needed voice. Thanks Owen for hosting this show
If this interview can be cut into small pieces (each Q&A made into one clip) and posted to Tiktok / Facebook / Instagram /RUclips shorts, they would reach more views for the world to listen to. Great interview.
I am a South African of the same age and political standpoint as Feinstein. He is absolutely on point in every instance, imo. Thank you both for a finely tuned interview 👌🏻
Thank you both for all your moral stand and the amazing work you do. Andrew, I remember as a teenager that I forbid my parents to buy any South African products as part of my opposition to the abhorrent apartheid system. I hope that there can be an effective boycott against Israel too. I am also very grateful that the South African government filed a case against Israel at the ICJ.
@yisraelwoolf2936 Gross victim blaming. And why should they accept foreign forces carving their ancestral homeland like Swiss cheese and then only receiving the crumbs???
Owen, I love the way you bring so much balance and humanity in your interviews. You and Mr Feisntein speak the reality of the situation in Palestine in the most articulate and insightful ways , which would be the normal way to speak and view it but what we hear from our mainstream medias and politicians is the total opposite, their moral decay and political insanity is beyond belief, and they also destroy the fabric our own societies . As you said it is not surprising and yet it is appallingly shocking. However the suffering of Ghaza but also of the West bank and East Jerusalem people, the latter two being subjected to unprecedented assault as well, has brough an awakening to millions in the world and especially in the West and a support for Palestinian people as never seen before. As ordinary citizens, we are still weak to fight this corrupted system, but the day will come and I believe Ghaza is a seed of indignation and outrage which will keep growing. Thank you Owen and to all the people you interview for this extraordinary work of awareness you are doing together and that in the most humble ways.
@@evgeniya7853 What weapons to start with? the West has sent all its outdated weapons to Ukraine, the sole aim of the war of Ukraine was to weakened Russia and they viciously used Ukrainians to that end. The West does not care for Ukrainians and probably never did, if they had they would have put all their ressources to prevent the war to happen or at least to bring a peaceful solution immediately after it did. Ukrainians have been sensessly sacrificied to the US hegemony and with the appalling cowardness of the EU. It is extremely sad and illustrate the hypocrisy of our governments. Life does not matter only their insane thirst for power and profits does.
Deeply moving. I am a South African who admired Andrew's courage in our country, but his analysis and his moving commitment to truth, coming like a river from his heart and his background is unbelievably inspiring. Thank you both.
As a young white South African adult (22) I would like to personally thank you Owen and Mr. Feinstein for this fascinating discussion. I've only recently gained an understanding of where I stand in politics and have always found topics like these messy and very complicated, but you both made it easy to understand and expanded my knowledge of my nation's history. Thank you very much and I sincerely hope that there will one day be a time where we can finally say that we have won the struggle for freedom.
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you're interviewing all my friends Owen. Haha. Great job!
Great work Owen you are an amazing person to keep bringing people to talk about this issue. I haven't seen any clips of you on mainstream media lately. Hopefully you get back on there soon to win over the boomers.
@@captainmajed2078 Yep. Owen work is superb.
Since the end of WW2 Australia has been destroyed beyond repair both ecologically and socially . This was due to covert foreign psychopathic controlled . Currently to accelerate the total destruction . Millions of Third World Migrants are flooding in ...
Lets do a fact check on this ´apartheid claim´
1) Do Palestine have a Palestinian Government - YES
2) Do Palestine make their own laws and rules - YES
3) Do Palestinians own and run their own businesses - YES
4) And until they voted in despotic Hamas, did they have a democratic right to hold elections and choose their own Government - YES
5) Are any Israelis in position of power in Palestine - NO
The only ´Apartheid´ being practiced is against the Israelis. The racial discrimination
based on colour and birth is against Israelis.
These fact are all true. Do your research.
No country or state is better placed to know what apartheid is than South Africa.
agree superpower south africa with 24/7 electricity and private security forces larger than army and police combined.
Indeed, South Africa 🇿🇦 knows will how to dismantle Apartheid from Israel, for the liberation of Palestine 🇵🇸. *_South Africa 🇿🇦 stands with Palestine! Now and forever!_* 🇵🇸
✌✌✌@@meetings3071
@@Kingzombiemyanmar exactly
And no better state is better placed to know what genocide is than Israël. South Africa is making a big mistake. It will be a huge snub !
All South Africans can feel justly proud at being the first nation to step forward and say this must stop.
More will follow, itis a moment for the annals of history..
Indeed. I feel very proud of my country, South Africa. *_South Africa 🇿🇦 will always stand with Palestine! Now and forever!_* 🇵🇸
🇿🇦 ❤️ 🖤 🤍 💚 🇵🇸
Indeed, I feel proud of that when I'm not even south african.
I have a lot of love and respect for South Africa ❤️
Indeed
I am actually German, and while my fellow Germans cannot bring themselves to even think that Israel might be in the wrong, I grew up in Cape Town, and I learned about Apartheid and colonialism in school, and I am glad I did. Very proud of SA.
Fellow German here. It is obvious once you know enough and do not only get twisted facts. Which is the decisive point...
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Thank you...❤❤❤
What did you learn - IEB or CED history syllabus, lol - what a joke!
I actually thought it would be Germany doing what south Africa did to take isreal to the un justice court
I remember my parents teaching me about the power of boycotting. They never bought anything that came from S/A until the day apartheid ended, neither have they bought Israeli products for years. The wisdom of the elders in my family has always humbled me, and this wisdom is always being passed on. In a nutshell be a human and never support the oppression of any other...
I avoid Israeli products as well.
Thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Your parents sound amazing! ❤🇵🇸
I’m 76, I know boycotts work. I would never buy Israeli products. We can also buy Palestinian products, we all need to do what we can, I’m thankful I can still march, but boycotting is a powerful tool. Viva Palestine.
"Palestine is the most important moral issue of our time." This made me cry.
Think you could see me holding back the tears there!
@@OwenJonesTalksgod bless your soul
Fact
That resonated with me too
Totally agree.
Brilliant, brilliant guest and interview!!! As a fellow former South African (Cape Tonian) I salute his honesty, moral integrity and strength of conviction! It's people like Andrew and his family who are the real moral heroes we need to listen to!!!
Indeed. Thank you for this amazing gift. Regard from another Capetonian from South Africa. 🇿🇦
@@RIETIE761
There is always one clown in the audience. 😅
@@RIETIE761 Clearly, you did not listen to the same interview that we listened to.
Don't ever forget the victims of racism and apartheid.
Powerful interview,, as someone who was part of the anti-apartheid movement, this is powerful stuff
It is powerful indeed, and gives _excellent contextual, political and historical colour to Palestine 🇵🇸 and South Africa. 🇿🇦_
🇿🇦 ❤️ 🖤 🤍 💚 🇵🇸
yes, I agree. It would be much more impactful if only Owen Jones weren't considered an antisemite... for being a whistle blower... Years ago... And not because Israel labels everyone antisemetic...
Punks were anti apartheid and pro Palestine. We still are.
I'd forgotten what I had done, how I had fought. And here I am again, but this is different. These dudes are supported by our politicians. That's where we need to start. I find talking to the person next to me is as rewarding as commenting here. Strength to you 🤗
Peace and freedom for Palestine 💪✌️
Even if there are differences in the apartheid spectrum no one can doubt clear cut persecution, dehumanisation and systematic destruction of human spirit in SA and Palestine. That practice had existed in occupied West Bank and Gaza way before October 8. Many human beings around the world are watching it from the lens of injustice and the western politicians are bent backwards to justify injustice exercised by Israel.
Thank you, South Africa, for standing up for the children of Gaza.
Yes, the children of Gaza, who spit on the corpses of naked women. Show some gratitude!
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How about we stand up for ourselves?
The ANC has NO right to lecture ANYONE on the treatment of people.
Disgusting, corrupt and morally bankrupt politicians are all as bad as each other.
South Africa is the biggest dump on the planet, Itl have zero effect
Yes were thousands of South African children are murdered every year and thousands of South African children give birth to children. Oh how wonderful freedom is!
Another riveting interview. As a white South African who lived in South Africa during those awful, horrific years, it is a constant deep sadness for me that I wasn’t more active and more vocal during that time. I had no real platform except as a teacher, and I spent many years teaching both black and white high school students, trying to open minds and support individual struggles. It came to the point where my sense of helplessness overwhelmed me and I left. I’m back in South Africa now and every day I’m almost on my knees with gratitude that this beautiful country is where is it today. My support for Palestine is absolutely unconditional. Keep on keeping on Owen.
We South Africans have so much to offer the world ❤❤ I love our country! 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
I also grew up during apartheid as a poor white..stop begging for attention mr Feinstein
@@sibzismOur people are great! 🇿🇦🇵🇸❤
Why were you poor white? Were your parents not able to make use of the opportunities and privileges made available to all white people? Did they have mental or addiction problems? @@ritamedina-molina8550
Thank you ❤😢🇵🇸
So much respect to your guest and South Africa 🇿🇦 in general in case opposing Apartheid, Genocide and Ethnic cleansing!
Somebody must open a case against South Africa because they are ethnically cleansing the white farmers in South Africa
Thank You Andrew for talking about our South African Apartheid system. I am in my 70's, being of color and having grown up in the Apartheid system. My heart is completely with the Palestinians. Their Apartheid is so much worse, its Brutal 💔
Thank you for sharing! Agreed on all fronts, but I was wondering how SA is these days? I’d love to visit some day.
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Thank you for speaking out, I think its so important that people hear from people like you who grew up in that system, no one, other then Palestinians themselves, are better to speak on apartheid in Israel.
It seems so crazy to me that there are people out there who still deny that Israel is an apartheid state, considering how much evidence there is it almost feels like people who deny this live in a whole different reality.
I’m really sorry for all that you must have experienced in your years.
I was actually really surprised but so grateful that South Africa has recognised that what is happening to Palestinians is indeed apartheid and oppression. I saw a video today of a sniper having shot a baby and father in Gaza as they were walking, the father as dying puts his hands on his daughter who is already shot dead. I am just truly sickened by Israel 's brutality. What makes me feel better is that there is always an end for the opressers and Israel will see its end, humanity always wins over Evil. 😢
Thought the newest nation would have known better, with its many constituents grandparents having gone through so much in another place and time, but greed (oil), knows no bounds. Never mind a better view of the Med.
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Despite all our political despots and short falls…. I am SO proud to be South African
Maybe when they say never again they really mean it…
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Happening now: The Israeli Foreign Ministry sends urgent messages to all world leaders through their embassies to condemn South Africa's lawsuit before the International Court of Justice. They are scared to death, as the lawsuit is fat and loaded of crimes.
is this really happening? source? if i may ask
@@trulyyoursshinchanJust look at the document bruh
As should the USA as the convention in section 3 article E states that complicity is also an offence.
@@Oddesie i completely disagree with you but damn that's a weirdly funny comment. XD
@@Oddesie Are you 5 years of age? You certainly talk like one.
I’ve felt angry, numb and despairing everyday since Israel started destroying Gaza and its people.
And you were oblivious to the slaughter of Israelis on the 7th of October? What a lovely sensitive soul!. Your tears started on the 8th of October
@@brian33270And are you aware that that was a (albeit horrible) response on 75 years of apartheid, occupation, oppression, land grabbing and killing of civilians and children? Where is YOUR understanding here now? And where is YOUR compassion with 30.000 people killed in a few months, 40% children (who definitly were not responsible for 7th of oct). Stop defending genocide. Israel is not the greatest "victim" here. And yes, OP understood what the 7th would provoke and that it would mean immense suffering for civilians in Gaza, bc Israel has been rather clear in their capacity for cruelty for a long time (way before the 7th).
@@brian33270and you need to read a history book because it didn't start on Oct 7th. This is what you took from this interview?
@@brian33270It’s not about “October 7th,” it is about October 6th!
@@brian33270comments for the shitbag.
Thank you South Africa for standing for the rule of law for everyone 🙏💚🇵🇸🇿🇦
Rule of law. Hysterical
And for defending humanity. 🇿🇦 🇵🇸
“You can’t go about your daily life if you could conceive what is happening in Gaza” As an affluent agnostic person living in İstanbul this is what’s happening to me.
SAME HERE 🇨🇦🎯💯🇵🇸
Me too. I’m in the US, greater-metro NYC. I start my first day of university classes way up north of here in ten days. I still haven’t confirmed my housing assignment so I can pay the first bill in five days. I don’t even have it together enough to go to DC for the protest in a few days.
Mostly because I don’t have a car. It’s a whole thing to travel publicly, and extra time.
@@izebellebluereadsoutloud3715there are buses for a modique sum
Same here. I can't even enjoy everyday pleasures when I think about the people of Palestine and their daily plight to be free.
Why do I cry when I listen to this? I'm Palestinian but I live in an European country and I feel that nobody have listen to us before 7 October?
We have that's why their is such an outcry through the world,I am so sorry for what has been don't to you, we have suffered so much with you,we have been depressed and cried a million tears every day for you and prayed a million prayers for you,and spoken up for you exactly as Andrew Feinstein describes,we have been insulted and suspended and abused for standing with Palistine but we will never give up..❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
We were aware but now it's been underlined
We love you ❤
We’ve been listening. We’ve been crying with you for a long long time in South Africa. We are just so relieved that the world is catching up.
Having spent my life in Greece I have always felt that the greek society has always had feelings of solidarity and understanding for Palestinians. A few years ago our politicians did too. Not now, unfortunately. But many greeks never stopped caring, worrying, getting informed and helping in any way possible.
Personally I admire your courage and the love for your motherland. I hope your suffering will soon end up in peace and freedom! ❤️
Having lived through the worst of apartheid, I have always said what Israel has done for over 70 years has been way, way worse than south african apartheid
Really?
@@gabebabe1 really.
You understand any claims of apartheid could only ever possibly apply to Israel proper and not Gaza or West Bank, right?
You can't have apartheid with an occupied territory. If that were the case, the Western occupation of Germany was also apartheid, so was Soviet occupation of Germany, so was German occupation of European countries, etc. Basically every single military occupation in history would be "apartheid". And then the word has no meaning anymore.
@@MustardSkavenPlease educate us on the best way to describe what is happening between Israeli and Palestinians.
@MustardSkaven what the hell are you talking about? Let me get Julius Malema to explain it to you. Unless you see anything remotely close to apartheid or living under apartheid or an ancestors of slave.
Another magnificent guest. On a selfish yet embarrassing note, since Oct 7th, I have learnt so much about our world. It has been so depressing with feelings of helplessness.
So reassuring to know there are brilliantly powerful people out there who are on the side of humanity, love, and care.
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Thank you for this Andrew and Owen. Proudly South African.
I hope you have your passport in order. Cyril and Jacob can stamp it for you. Didn't Malema promise to shoot the Boer? Proudly South African simian
Same here! ❤️ 🇿🇦 🇵🇸
Ditto
Powerful interview. Huge respect for your coverage on this genocide against the Palestinians, my heart breaks 🇵🇸
Mr Feinstein you have spoken powerfully. Nelson Mandela has physically departed but you are the proof He lives!
@Simon-xc6iy: This exquisite tribute to Andrew makes me cry. What you say, Simon, is so true. (From Cape Town) 💖
Nelson Mandela would not have supported Hamas. He supported the Palestinian right to self-determination. Big difference. He wasn't into Jihadism masked as nationalism
@@brian33270 thanks for that Brian.
Free Palestine
And yet Benjamin Netanyahu and Isreal supporterted and help sponsor Hamas to undermine the political efforts of PLO etc....
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Thank you Owen and Andrew. As a South African, thank for giving Andrew the platform to discuss our struggle and relationship with the Palestinian people ❤🇵🇸🇿🇦
You both are people ... no ... human beings with the moral compass intact and pointing straight at what makes us humans. Thank you so much for this deep reaching interview and also insight into SA Apartheid. We took to the streets in my young days in Switzerland in support of Nelson "Madiba" Mandela - may he rest in eternal peace 🙏🙏 - and I feel honoured to have had the privilege to listen to Andrew Feinstein. Thank you and stay safe!!
Eloquent, articulate and just an absolute pleasure to have listened to! Please could you invite Andrew again and again, he is an absolute gem. Thank you, well done with this interview, it was intriguing, interesting and informative 👏
I think Americans tend to forget that the US in the days of slavery was a system of apartheid.
Merica= root of fas cism
Yes, without the bombing .
No slavery was slavery. Jim Crow was America’s apartheid.
Our American politicians are owned by Israel lobby aipac 😡
@@tinaforbes1059my comment vanished, I can't see it anyway, Philadelphia, May 13th 1985
Agree wholeheartedly with the last statement, " Palestine is the moral issue of the times!!! " Anyone with principles and morality will be unable to stay away or be blind to what is happening!!!
Listening from South Africa 🇿🇦 and can’t be more grateful for this to be in the public domain. Courage in adversity! 🇵🇸Truth to power. Praying this genocide end’s & reflection on our global morality ensues because when one turns one’s eyes on injustice humanity looses! Tomorrow who’s next…
Honestly, this was one of the best interviews I've watched in quite some time. Thank you. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Brilliant! Thank you. One of the most powerful interviews I've ever listened to. Gives me hope that a fight for justice might prevail for Palestine.
Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere. Let’s hope for peace and justice to prevail.
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A truly unique point of view that only a South African can give. Thank you Andrew for all you've done for our country and our people and for what you continue to do.✌🇿🇦
the goal of apartheid in south Africa is to maintain dominance of minority white Afrikaans in politics and economy, while in Israel it is designed to break Palestinians will to continue to live on their land, and facilitate the ethnic cleansing.
That’s the whole truth.
$500 Billion dollars worth of Gas has been discovered off Gazan shores. That plus the value of nearly 20 miles of shoreline are factored into their plans.
The goal of apartheid in South Africa was to steal the gold and diamonds. Highest exporter in the world during apartheid, the South African rand was stronger than the GBP.
And I'm finding it more and more unacceptable that they've been allowed to do whatever they want - and what they want is to do whatever they please. It's beyond disgusting. But the effing gaslighting about "antisemitism" should come with criminal charges.
Wow, well said
An excellent interview. Thank you Andrew Feinstein for your crucial insight and always standing with humanity
Thank you, Owen and Andrew, for restoring my faith in humanity; there is always hope when we have wonderful people like you in this world.
In South Africa, we don't dignify apartheid with a capital A
I'm sorry. Need a safe space?
But these days, I give Apartheid a capital "A" so people don't forget, eg Apartheid Israel ☠️
(I am also South African.)
Grammatically, Apartheid as a single subject is always capitalised. But you have freedom of choice.
Apsrtheid should be written with a capital A as it was the name of a system exclusively to SA. What Israel has is a thousand times worse, so not Apartheid.
If you know you know.
Fantastic interview. I don't think I have ever heard the moral case against Israeli apartheid so brilliantly and movingly articulated.
I would highly suggest watching Two Blue Lines. It's HEARTBREAKING. I watched it a couple years ago, then again today, and cried.
Thanks, Owen Jones, for this report, you are amazing + so is your guest, PRAYERS YOU ALL SUCCEED TO FREE PALESTINE N-O-W, TODAY❤ 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸
An astonishing interview Owen, i was in tears by the end. Thank you for using your voice.
Excellent interview, brilliant journalism. Thank you, Owen
Incredibly moving talk and explanations. This needs to be broadcast far and wide.
Thank you Owen for spreading the knowledge of Palestine one interview at a time. Daily, weekly, monthly, you have expanded the minds of so many. Knowledge is a powerful tool.
Knowledge according to Owen, who fixates on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, demonises Israel and avoids discussing real genocides like in Syria, where Bashir Al Hassad poisoned his own people. What a hero Owen is
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Thank you Owen and Andrew for speaking up with such clarity and humanity.
"Palestine is the most important moral issue of our time" - Andrew Feinstein
that's clearly false and demonstrates his racism and moral vacuity. firstly, ABORTION is the most important. In uk alone something like 100 000+ lives are snuffed out every year! Just 2-3 years of abortion in uk kills more human lives than entire arab israeli conflict. ever. secondly more lives have been ended in yemen since 2014 than in entire arab israeli conflict! Andrew is morally blind.
He was quoting Mandela
@@biscuit4259And Nelson Mandela had nothing to do with Hamas.
Thank you again, another insightful and interesting interview. Please keep using your voices to speak out and call out the atrocities happening, not only across the globe, but more so in Palistine and for the Palistinians who are being exterminated.
Shame on all those who conspire and collude with the Israeli defence.
Absolutely brilliant Owen,I could have listened to Andrew for hours. Thank you both.
The truth wil always reveal I live in south Africa ur guests talking the truth iam so happy that south Africa 🇿🇦 taking Israel to the ICJ court other countries needs to follow
Me too. Warm regards from Cape Town, South Africa. 🇿🇦
Bravo South Africa 🇿🇦
As a South African and also hailing from Cape Town, I couldn't agree more with Andrew. He makes us proud as a principled man.
Andrew Feinstein is such a moral human being. It is just such a contrast with the moral depraved people we find in American media. Thanks Owen.
What else do you know about him to make such a statement?
@@hanobeukes3918 Exactly. They don't and both Jones and Feinstein know very little about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Look on RUclips for a brilliant journalist called Haviv Rettig Gur. You will understand very quickly how limited these journalists are
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For the first time after listening to such a profoundly important interview, I can actually feel a little bit of hope that maybe just maybe, justice is on its way to Palestine after75 years of struggle and incomprehensible suffering. ❤
Extremely clear, thorough, and powerful interview from someone who stood with Nelson Mandela against injustice and is standing up again now. Thank you Owen and Andrew.
Please like this video and increase the reach. Let’s not let those who are dying in Gaza while exposing the horrors that they are witnessing die in vain.
Well done Owen 👏 great interview.
Excellent interview. 👍 Thank you, Owen.
well done Owen Jones...an incredibly powerful interview and what a privilege to hear Mr. Feinstein tell his story. Salute to both of you. Many thanks.
Always love that you bring guests to talk about this! I hope this horror stops soon 💔 💔 💔
Thank you, Owen & Andrew for keeping it real, with heart. Grateful for your support of inspired & informed action 🙏🏽
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Thank you! As a German who is just experiencing how the freedom of speech as guaranteed by our constitution has been restricted by the government and people are frightened to speak out, it is a relief to get thoughtful voices based on the principles of the general human rights. As of now everybody in Germany who gets a funding by the government has to sign an agreement to conform to the IHRA definition of antisemitism, meaning that basically every critique of the Israeli system is deemed antisemitic and will lead to the loss of fundings. The silence and opportunism of the cultural sector and media is the most shocking.
The only way to change that, is to fight the system. Perhaps it's easy for me to say as a South African. Perhaps it's in our blood to always stand up to bullies.
Question for your German people: why are you so accepting of dictatorships? Let's face it, it's exactly what you've described and of course, we know your history.
Is it not time to change this?
Absolutely egregious and Germany will live to regret being on the wrong side of history again
And, if some politicians have their way, someone who immigrated to Germany, and became a citizen, would lose their citizenship and face deportation ... for criticizing another country! !
From 🇬🇧 : F the proportionate grabbing descendents. OK? Okeh.
Wonderful that you're in the underwhelming minority, and will remain as such.
This is one of the most incredible interviews I have heard. Thank you both for the enlightenment.
Thank you Owen. I watch each and every video of yours. And i am learning so much about Israel and Palestine through your videos
You're getting some great interviews Owen; intellects like Andrew's really help us to understand the forces driving social and environmental destruction. That in turn helps us to be better advocates and activists, even if it's just in discussions with family and friends.
Definitely one of the most powerful interviews you've ever done! Thank you Owen...I identify with Andrew Feinstein he is a true South African. Thank you Andrew ❤️🇿🇦🇵🇸
South African on the right side of history 🇿🇦✊🏿👏🏽
I haven't even watch this yet, saw my fellow South African Andrew on the thumb nail and had to express my absolute delight to see him on this channel! ❤🇿🇦
Massive props to Andrew. Always liked his words.
I met Desmond Tutu back in the early eighties in Brussels. He was the first person I encountered who made this comparison. I knew nothing about Palestine at the time, and he led me to the facts. He also said it was worse than apartheid in SA.
It's been really telling that the loudest voices in opposition to Israel's actions have been the South Africans and the Irish. People who really grok solidarity. None of the cosplayers ever got it.
cosplayer nations?
@@jonasdownerthe self appointed leaders of the free democracies.
@@jonasdowner complying progressives, like Starmer.
Hi there Owen, your interview with Andrew Feinstein, for me growing up in Apartheid era South Africa and having spend over 3 years in Israel really struck a cord with me. Brilliant. Many thanks and solidarity. Eric
Amazing, brilliant interview! I teared up as well in the end. Thank you so much for your work, Owen. The least we can do is inform ourselves and bear witness to injustice. 🙏🏻
Comrade Owen, Comrade Andrew well done! Thank you!
Comrade. Lol🤣😂🤣😂
Amandla 👊🏼
Andrew brings real experience in the current ongoing apartheid in Palestine. He has seen Apartheid before and knows what he sees is Apartheid.
it seems to me he is a hammer and sees everything as a nail
youtube channels are an apartheid to youtube
companys are apartheid to teh government
and employees are apartheid to there jobs
veiwers are apartheid to youtube channels
the point is if you spend your whole life looking for apartheid your gonna find it everywhere and your gonna have arguments for why its an apartheid in a moments notice
I agree 💯. Andrew's experience brings depth of knowledge and insight into the Genocide being perpetrated by Apartheid Israel.
Except comparing Israel-Palestine to South African apartheid is completely factless.
@@canteluna You are incorrect. Israel is a blatant Apartheid state, but don't take my word for it. Go to the *Amnesty International website* and see for yourself that Israel is an Apartheid State. Or even Google *_B'tselem Apartheid_* to see the *Israeli Human Rights organization classify Israel as an Apartheid state.*
@@canteluna Oh does it…please enlighten us?
Genuine compassion from a mainstream journalist here is something that is sadly so rare. If the media had an ounce of the compassion and courage that you have we'd be in a much better world. Also, thank you for such a brilliant interview. Andrew is a hero. Had me teary towards the end, powerful and inspiring words.
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Wow.. Respect to both these amazing individuals
Oh my goodness! This is such an emotional and powerful dialogue. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Thank you Owen, thank you Andrew ... You are heroes ✊🇵🇸✊
Thank you, Owen and Andrew. Powerful discussion. If only Biden, Sunak and Sholz would understand where they will stand in history.
They don’t GAF!
Biden is too arrogant. He really seems to believe this stuff. I hope he wakes up and starts listening
He only woke up in as far that he will lose the election this year,thats all..he don't care about Palistine and every child being killed..@celestialtreetarot4260
@@celestialtreetarot4260and sunaks in laws have huge amounts invested in bp for the oil and gas in gaza and the west bank..
He'll stand with Thatcher and Reagan, evil pompous pricks.
Very powerful! This interview should be primetime TV so the masses could start to digest the truth. Two wonderful people being epic.
They wont dare... Its against the agenda they have to follow
Hi Owen and your guest
Thank you for the immense outstanding Humanity.
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That was amazing, and so inspiring, I'd love to hear more things like this in the media. Thank you to both of you!
Thanks!
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A brilliant and in depth interview. Many thanks for the guest's personal experience and insight into the nature of apartheid and the brutal genocide in Palestine.
I still recall the concert in tribute to Mandela‘s 70th birthday in 1988. I was 14 years old and it politicised me. We can do this again🍉🇵🇸
Wonderful discussion, thank you for sharing. We won't be silenced, they deserve to live to!!
Wow Owen. Such a powerful interview. I'm still in tears. Thank you and Andrew sooo much! share this with everyone, everyone!
This interview took place a month before Andrew Feinstein was chosen to stand against Keir Starmer in the forthcoming GE which makes it all the more relevant. Especially to Holborn and St Pancras constituency.
Wish I could give this interview 10 thumbs up.
Well, why not do it 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
Well bloody said Andrew. Thanks for expressing what every South African can see, esp. white South Africans who woke up to reality. You are a national treasure and a much needed voice. Thanks Owen for hosting this show
Thank you to speak out Owen Jones! Please don’t stop ! Save Palestine !
I promise I never will
And the world
@@OwenJonesTalksthank you so much
@@OwenJonesTalksStop, or save Palestine?😊
Owen is trying to save himself in Gaza, but he can't save Palestine. They throw gays from buildings in Gaza
Fantastic interview, concise and educational, well done Owen.
Absolutely. 💯
If this interview can be cut into small pieces (each Q&A made into one clip) and posted to Tiktok / Facebook / Instagram /RUclips shorts, they would reach more views for the world to listen to. Great interview.
This interview was amazing✨🇿🇦!!! From a fellow South African🇿🇦❤️.
I am a South African of the same age and political standpoint as Feinstein. He is absolutely on point in every instance, imo. Thank you both for a finely tuned interview 👌🏻
Outstanding interview Owen. Wish everyone could watch it with an open heart and mind.
Thank you both for all your moral stand and the amazing work you do. Andrew, I remember as a teenager that I forbid my parents to buy any South African products as part of my opposition to the abhorrent apartheid system. I hope that there can be an effective boycott against Israel too. I am also very grateful that the South African government filed a case against Israel at the ICJ.
Now there is nothing to buy!
Thank you to Andrew for adding such a moral and inspirational interview. As a human I'm thankful. Keep safe. Lucy from off grid boat.
Thank you❤️🇿🇦 Andrew Feinstein.
Haven't watched video yet, but based on title alone, this is exactly it. This is apartheid plus much much much more.
Enjoy it. The video is excellent. 👌
you should watch, it's an incredible interview
Typical leftist. Agreeing with a premise without knowing the facts.
Wow it really was incredible
Listen to this as podcast.
"The Palestinians have the right to hate the people who destroyed their lives"
-Norman Finkelstein
Very right
EXACTLY.
They destroyed their own lives. Why have they refused every offer of their own state?
@@yisraelwoolf2936palestine has never been offered full statehood with the rights to have a military.
@yisraelwoolf2936 Gross victim blaming. And why should they accept foreign forces carving their ancestral homeland like Swiss cheese and then only receiving the crumbs???
Owen, I love the way you bring so much balance and humanity in your interviews. You and Mr Feisntein speak the reality of the situation in Palestine in the most articulate and insightful ways , which would be the normal way to speak and view it but what we hear from our mainstream medias and politicians is the total opposite, their moral decay and political insanity is beyond belief, and they also destroy the fabric our own societies . As you said it is not surprising and yet it is appallingly shocking. However the suffering of Ghaza but also of the West bank and East Jerusalem people, the latter two being subjected to unprecedented assault as well, has brough an awakening to millions in the world and especially in the West and a support for Palestinian people as never seen before. As ordinary citizens, we are still weak to fight this corrupted system, but the day will come and I believe Ghaza is a seed of indignation and outrage which will keep growing. Thank you Owen and to all the people you interview for this extraordinary work of awareness you are doing together and that in the most humble ways.
We are not weak. Just divided all over the world. when the time comes the Spartans will unite
@@nileshmorar8676 Spartans? 😆
Do you support sending weapons to Ukraine?
Meaning Warriors@@petesmitt
@@evgeniya7853 What weapons to start with? the West has sent all its outdated weapons to Ukraine, the sole aim of the war of Ukraine was to weakened Russia and they viciously used Ukrainians to that end. The West does not care for Ukrainians and probably never did, if they had they would have put all their ressources to prevent the war to happen or at least to bring a peaceful solution immediately after it did. Ukrainians have been sensessly sacrificied to the US hegemony and with the appalling cowardness of the EU. It is extremely sad and illustrate the hypocrisy of our governments. Life does not matter only their insane thirst for power and profits does.
Fantastic interview! This needs to be spread far and wide.
Andrew: “I wish I knew how Thatcher reacted”
Owen: “So would I!”
Me alone in my car: “me too!!!!”
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She probably had a little pee running down her leg.
Thank you so much Owen for the work that you do bringing these matters into the conversation. I look forward to your posts every day.
Yay yay!!!
Deeply moving. I am a South African who admired Andrew's courage in our country, but his analysis and his moving commitment to truth, coming like a river from his heart and his background is unbelievably inspiring. Thank you both.
Hat's off to both of you for a great discussion / expose' of this tragic dituation.
As a young white South African adult (22) I would like to personally thank you Owen and Mr. Feinstein for this fascinating discussion. I've only recently gained an understanding of where I stand in politics and have always found topics like these messy and very complicated, but you both made it easy to understand and expanded my knowledge of my nation's history. Thank you very much and I sincerely hope that there will one day be a time where we can finally say that we have won the struggle for freedom.