@@hmq9052I observe no promotion. Perhaps an assessment of some description would be beneficial? When perception deviates greatly from reality, it advises that some form of intervention is required.
@@davidoldboy5425 the early release scheme specifically excludes rapists. Will that fact help you realise that you are not perceiving reality around you. But instead spouting disinformation party politics BS.
WHY are these people being treated with such tough measures, whereas the pro Palestinian disgusting disorders were treated with white kid gloves, and at NO TIME did they get “swift justice “! Disgusting behaviour from the British government!
To be fair the pro palestine people were not burning people alive in hotels and smashing up shops. Although the aggressive pro palestine ones have been charged.
Are you serious? So if you destroy property, set things on fire, attack people, you think you should be forgiven because "free speech"? Are you serious? Complain all you want. Post banners. Yell. Chant. When you set fire to things, you are a criminal. And you are going to jail.
Look up the bradford Riots 2001 and then you will realise that actually this is has been done before and is exactly the text book approach regardless of who you are.
I didn’t see the level of violence among the pro-Palestinian demonstrators again where did one of those demonstrations decline into a violent riot with cars burning and property looted. And to be clear I support Israel’s right to defend itself against the Nazis of Hamas and condemn ‘River to the Sea’ chants and Hamas flags on our streets. What you are doing here is trying to garner support for violent rioters some of whom are fascists by drawing false comparisons. That is a danger to our democracy but you probably know that.
Why aren't the Times encouraging arrests for all crimes in the country. Locally a man who had committed a minimum of 125 house burglaries got 18 months. 2 tier policing.
That person is going through the justice system and will receive either a very lengthy prison sentence or, more likely, spend the rest of his life in Broadmoor. What's your point? That because someone somewhere commits a crime it's ok for anyone else to, literally, run riot? Any excuse will do, right?
Arrested within minutes, charged his plea hearing is this October and if he pleads guilty he will be sentenced and sent to prison for life. Do keep up and stop being a racist wally
10 year sentence after a single day in court where it seems guilt is presumed ..... now that guy who mugs a pensioner isn't going to get that much and he's much more of a danger to society. That Muslim lad who broke a policewoman's nose in Manchester airport been charged yet? and will he get 10 years?
I consider riots such as these to be far more dangerous and repellent than one guy hitting someone - even a policeman - on the nose. Acquire a sense of perspective.
So far all those in court have pled guilty, of course there will be a quick trial. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Why are you wallowing in self-inflicted victimhood?
@@SonnymonsterNo. However many of those involved have been arrested and will face justice. There is a big difference between random acts of ineffectual vandalism and acts that deliberately target individual law-abiding citizens with violence, arson and hate.
What is going on in this country? And yet no major Labour politician has addressed the immigration elephant in the room. The media coverage of this is WARPED. These journalists are beyond clueless.
It certainly is warped, the Mail and Express run anti migrant headlines virtually every day, GB News and TalkTV panic about it daily and the Torys have spent 14 years talking about little else Blaming the "others" for everything is a time honoured tactic to distract attention from the Governments abysmal performance.
Don't forget that many of the people that were arrested were getting on in years and all the problems that come with age. It is going to be very expensive keeping these people in jail.
What about the Muslims who also acted in violence……. This is the exact issue…. We have no issue identifying and throwing homelanders under the bus but when it comes to other culture it’s silent Too many police involved in bribes with Imams in the mosques and community’s …… feeble nation we are
@@verystripeyzebra because it's a kangaroo court and pleading not guilty is a waste of time that will get you stuck in limbo for ever. Either you do what they want or you disappear in a bureaucratic mist of red tape cycled between prisons and mental health units until you break. Plenty of evidence of this, what happened to Julian assange?
They are listening, just not agreeing. Immigration is essential to the UK - without it the NHS would cease to function and there would not be enough people to pay you pension: you need immigrants.
Are you making a similar complaint about all the British ppl living in South Africa and other parts of Africa where they have not been kicked out, I think not so I would therefore remind you that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Immigration is and will always be a way of life if you don't like it then do not ever venture into any foreign lands
Stop it! These are not the people who elected them. These right wing thugs voted reform UK or whatever far right group they thought would bring in fascism!
It's not starmer rioting, but typical loony right can never accept any responsibility, it's the politics of grievance and victimhood. Poor you everyone's picking on you.
Most of us have no issue with criminals receiving appropriate sentences for crimes, but this must apply to all criminals. There are numerous cases of people receiving light or suspended sentences for vile crimes such as sexual assaults, killings, racially aggravated offences and so on and so on. Additionally there are cases of ludicrous non crimes resulting in fines, or jail time for non payment of licence fees and council tax. This is totally backward!
Some of them probably have and their trials will be a while yet. Given the amount of evidence much of it helpfully provided by other rioters livestreaming the violence many of them are probably going to end up being found guilty in which case as they refused to take responsibility for their actions they will end up with longer sentences than the ones who plead guilty.
Yes, you can do that, but if the weight of evidence is overwhelming, which I expect it is in these cases, then they are advised by solicitor to plead guilty, and get a lesser sentence. If they go for trial by jury, which is their right, and the weight of evidence is overwhelming, they will get a much tougher sentence. That's why some of those poor Postmasters pleading guilty.
James “Not so” Cleverly proving once again why we all considered him a right plonker while he was mismanaging his role as Home Secretary . (And all his other roles too).
That's not how English law works... Everything is unspecified and determined by court. This is why our self defence laws are unusable, what is a "reasonable" level of force? You're liable if what you think is reasonable force isn't agreed by the court.
@@garethkalum8297 no. The offences are defined by statute. The concept of reasonableness is a well established legal concept. Of course the court decide if any force used is reasonable.
@@verystripeyzebra no. Reasonable is an unspecified dynamic and dependent on the specifics of the situation in judgement. Of course the court has judgement on reasonable force when put before court, which happens after the actionable offence, which should be judged by officers who attend the scene of the crime. Do you understand that there is de jure and de facto law? Do you have any training in this topic? I'm qualified level 2 under SIA.
Have you spoken to your Neighbours or go to work not one person agrees with that I have spoken to everybody that is person is seriously concerned and looking to stage of protest peaceful protest or leave the country immediately I work with extremely wealthy individuals that are currently plotting to remove their wealth from this country immediately and I know four police officers that have resigned since last week so prove how much you don’t leave the house
This does not appear to be justice of any description. It looks like what it is. Politically driven use of the law, applied unevenly and disproportionatly administered in relation to the crime. The speed removes anslysis of the evidence and the ability to form a defence. I am certain that anyone with financial resource could destroy the case. This simply highlights the desperation of those in power to suppress the idea. They compound the view that the working class are currently abused and mistreated by the state. The ones in prison may be guilty but the guilt is overlaid onto others who have not commited crimes but hold the same view. Smear suppress and silence. Note the complete ignorance of the primary concerns and complaints that led to the disruption. Be quiet, you are the same as the criminals if you raise the same issues. The inference and covered threats to online discourse are obviously meant to stop everyone from talking about the wizard, who everyone has now observed behind the curtain. Don't discuss the wizard, you didn't see him, that was the man from the gasboard reading the meter.
What's frightening is that it plays out exactly as some games ahead of their time have predicted up to 25 years ago, including the manipulation of the masses by the media to believe what those in power want them to believe.
A serious question - have the rioters who rioted when those kids were removed arrested and convicted on television? If yes then all is equal if no then i am concerned!
The Nom Dom's are leaving the country, can't blame them, wasn't it Keir's plan to tax them.? And everything labour wants to do is down to growth and what if we don't get growth...??
Sentencing guidelines are issued by Parliament, judges interpret the law and apply those sentencing guidelines. The PM has no part in directly setting sentences. The "law lords" have not existed since 2009 when the Supreme Court was created. Do keep up.
I remember BLM. Missed the part went out looking for 'white' people to beat up and 'white' homes and businesses to burn to the ground. I just remember occasional acts of vandalism
Did you know that 5000 immigrants have crossed the channel since Starmer became Crime Minister. They are not thugs. Just ordinary people who have had enough
What do you get for inciting protests and riots , as this is exactly what our delightful 2 Tier Starmer caused , as for Cleavly wasn’t he someone who tried to fleece paying his taxes , talking about paying for crime did he , no he paid his way out of it , one rule for them another for us , haven’t heard Ricky Jones has been remanded in custody???
A former Labour councillor has been remanded in custody after he was charged with encouraging violence while addressing a crowd during an anti-fascist protest. Ricky Jones, 57, was wearing a Hugo Boss T-shirt as he entered no pleas during an appearance at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Friday. Due to apper in court 6 Sep.
You don’t get fair trials under a Dictator Clown Starmer.. His Brown Shirt stormtroopers will arrest you and throw away the key.. No descenting voice will be allowed
@@alwayssunny4007 all the evidence....what evidence. It'll likely be video evidence. This isn't complicated fraud. The easiest cases will be heard first ...ie those pleading guilty. How long do you suggest would be reasonable? You're just bending over backwards to come up.with anything at all.
If they've got any sense they'll all plead 'Not Guilty'. Then they won't be starting any prison sentence 'just after that'. In the current state of the Court System they'll all be retired.
So where there's a will there's a way? For the last however many years the Law's been turninng a blind eye to shoplifting which has turned into an industrial pasttime for some, and has negative knock-on consequences for communities: from higher prices to a society blighted by a sub-section for whom this life is normalised thus lubricating the passage into violent organised criminality.
‘To send out this political system’? I take ‘message’ is meant. Absurd question it is a message from the courts that violent disorder will not be tolerated. It seems that getting tough on violence can be defined as ‘political’?
Soo just to be clear. They want the police to act swiftly when the law is broken by 'grooming gangs', but don't want the police to act AT ALL when buildings are being burnt down, innocent citizens being beaten up and police being assaulted and put in hospital. Got it.
Who are these far right groups. Who runs them. Where are they based. How do we go about joining them. This bloke should have never been in a position of authority he is either delusional or is spinning a thin political lie.
Scotland represented 37 Labour Party MP's Westminster parliament actually won Scotland Thomas. Adam Tompkins lawyer he vote Labour party he auper Rich Thomas.
What about the covid have we forgot about how the MPs m8s made millions. Nighthoods Dame Sir and all that jazz look am in agreement if you brake the law you pay price. People power we need yo come together we're not here long.
Labour has declared war on the culturally native, British working class
What happens to the real criminals and crimes that's right if you ask questions your a criminal
Yeah but not in the way you think.
Yeah swift justice, not exactly swift arresting the grooming gangs were they?
Says it all.
The Glasgow one? The saville one? The glitter one? Or any of the 850,000 registered pedos in UK?
You should be locked up for promoting terrorism.
Unevenly applied, it ceases to be justice and becomes injustice.
@@hmq9052I observe no promotion. Perhaps an assessment of some description would be beneficial? When perception deviates greatly from reality, it advises that some form of intervention is required.
@@jamescoburn6789 You're on their side. And hopefully you'll be jailed
Yet we're gonna release 500 prisoners from their original sentences just to fill the cells with these political prisoners
Why is there not the same eagerness to clamp down of grooming gang offences?
Quite right the church should also be held to account
@@TW-pq6prdon't think he was expecting that haha
10 years is ridiculous ! This is appalling !
It's grotesque. I'm really worried about where this country is going - we're becoming a byword for authoritarianism.
Thats what happens when you question the corrupt government and fight the system.. What a shame‼️
You've made Starzi look a fool in front of the rest of his cronies, your punishment will be severe, he'll let out rapists to fit you in.
No rapists will be released early. Violent crimes are excluded from the early release scheme.
Keep up deluding yourself about the world around you.
? Odd. They have explicitly said they will not do that.
I hope you are not trying to spread misinformation and win up hatred.
Just saying.
do what??? Rewind you're making absolutely no sense what so ever are you off your meds?
@@davidoldboy5425 the early release scheme specifically excludes rapists.
Will that fact help you realise that you are not perceiving reality around you. But instead spouting disinformation party politics BS.
Exactly
I wonder if this will apply to thuggish muslim rioters.
The one's convicted of violent disorder will, the Braford riots resulted in an average sentence of three years and some got over six years.
Of course it won't.
Of course not! We need to protect those who want to change this Christian country into a Muslim one(!)
@@Steve_Coatescolloquially known as Bradistan, even as far up as Newcastle 😅
@@xbluebae Sameer Ali, 21, and Adnan Ghafoor, 31 got 20m and 18m.
General public far right. Two tier kier.
Clown Starmer is a dictator
@@DaWorldIzYourzz which one? A clown or a dictator?
Is like Biden, a bumbling idiot who securely behind everything! 🤷♂️
@@wardjunior1450 “two tier kier” it rhymes so it just has to be true. 🤦
@@jstoner9029 ok
Kangaroo courts for working class
How long do you think a trial takes when the criminal pleads guilty?
.courts for rioters you mean.
Most are pleading guilty. So…
70% of those arrested have a previous criminal record.
@@Steve_Coates : Don’t really understand what a kangaroo court is , do you? Hint, it has nothing to do with the length of the actual proceedings.
Does this go for the Muslim thugs too
I don’t think so 🤔 😂
@@harold6863 Sameer Ali, 21, and Adnan Ghafoor, 31 have been convicted..... But of course that doesn't fit with your 2 tier Policing B*ll*cks
WHY are these people being treated with such tough measures, whereas the pro Palestinian disgusting disorders were treated with white kid gloves, and at NO TIME did they get “swift justice “!
Disgusting behaviour from the British government!
To be fair the pro palestine people were not burning people alive in hotels and smashing up shops. Although the aggressive pro palestine ones have been charged.
Are you serious? So if you destroy property, set things on fire, attack people, you think you should be forgiven because "free speech"? Are you serious?
Complain all you want. Post banners. Yell. Chant. When you set fire to things, you are a criminal. And you are going to jail.
Look up the bradford Riots 2001 and then you will realise that actually this is has been done before and is exactly the text book approach regardless of who you are.
I don't recall anything like these riots coming from pro-Palestinian protesters. This could be why.
I didn’t see the level of violence among the pro-Palestinian demonstrators again where did one of those demonstrations decline into a violent riot with cars burning and property looted. And to be clear I support Israel’s right to defend itself against the Nazis of Hamas and condemn ‘River to the Sea’ chants and Hamas flags on our streets. What you are doing here is trying to garner support for violent rioters some of whom are fascists by drawing false comparisons. That is a danger to our democracy but you probably know that.
How can they be subjected to over ten years - total BS
Don't commit the crime.
He said upto 10 yrs. That's for the offence of rioting. It carries a max of 10 yrs imprisonment.
Why aren't the Times encouraging arrests for all crimes in the country. Locally a man who had committed a minimum of 125 house burglaries got 18 months. 2 tier policing.
It’s the courts that pass sentences not the police and the Crown Prosecution Service that decide what goes to court.
Come on ffs.are you that naive and clueless? This is revenge and they're telling you that they're making an example of these guys. Wake up.
@@UKsoldier45 did he riot, set light to buildings and throw bricks at people?
Just wondering.
Because all the press are complicite with pushing the narrative
What about the person who murdered the three children in Southport. All gone quiet on the north western front .
That person is going through the justice system and will receive either a very lengthy prison sentence or, more likely, spend the rest of his life in Broadmoor. What's your point? That because someone somewhere commits a crime it's ok for anyone else to, literally, run riot? Any excuse will do, right?
Arrested within minutes, charged his plea hearing is this October and if he pleads guilty he will be sentenced and sent to prison for life. Do keep up and stop being a racist wally
@@LordOfLightWell said!
You're a sheep who just follows what everyone else is saying right now. Do your research if you're just gonna spout complete bs.
Pretty sure they caught him. African family, Christian background, diagnosed autistic.
Elon something
10 year sentence after a single day in court where it seems guilt is presumed ..... now that guy who mugs a pensioner isn't going to get that much and he's much more of a danger to society.
That Muslim lad who broke a policewoman's nose in Manchester airport been charged yet? and will he get 10 years?
I consider riots such as these to be far more dangerous and repellent than one guy hitting someone - even a policeman - on the nose. Acquire a sense of perspective.
@@LordOfLightWhat do you think of the Muslim response? Is Muslim rioting justified?
So far all those in court have pled guilty, of course there will be a quick trial.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Why are you wallowing in self-inflicted victimhood?
@@Sonnymonster No, it isn't. What "muslim rioting" was there? I recall none.
@@SonnymonsterNo. However many of those involved have been arrested and will face justice.
There is a big difference between random acts of ineffectual vandalism and acts that deliberately target individual law-abiding citizens with violence, arson and hate.
I've unsubscribed, I can't listen to this station anymore. This article is the final straw for me. It's exhausting.
Too many big words for you?
@@Steve_Coates Not the words,my PhD's gave me the right grounding for that. It's partly down to the toxic replies you get from absolute bafoons.
@@peterfalk7084don’t lower yourself to their level
What is going on in this country? And yet no major Labour politician has addressed the immigration elephant in the room. The media coverage of this is WARPED. These journalists are beyond clueless.
It certainly is warped, the Mail and Express run anti migrant headlines virtually every day, GB News and TalkTV panic about it daily and the Torys have spent 14 years talking about little else Blaming the "others" for everything is a time honoured tactic to distract attention from the Governments abysmal performance.
What is going on? Putin and other totalitarians are trying to destabilize Europe and the world. Do your research.
And yet most of the media is Right-Wing . Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph etc .
@@garyh1572 The media has been captured on all sides. The Telegraph coverage is just as warped as The Guardian - this is a cross party, elite virus.
Ten years cost the taxpayer nearly 1 million to keep each on in jail
Don't forget that many of the people that were arrested were getting on in years and all the problems that come with age. It is going to be very expensive keeping these people in jail.
What about the Muslims who also acted in violence……. This is the exact issue…. We have no issue identifying and throwing homelanders under the bus but when it comes to other culture it’s silent
Too many police involved in bribes with Imams in the mosques and community’s …… feeble nation we are
You need to worry about me not the Muslims
Any examples? Nope none!
@@seanoconnor8843 why who are u lad…… some head the ball pretending your mad
What about the right to a fair trial and the opportunity to prepare a defence?
We all know that this will not be enforced even-handedly.
Maybe that's why the first hearing everyone has pled guilty.
How long do you think you need to prepare a defence.
The Uk is in a full blown dictatorship.. no descent will be tolerated.. You will be jailed.. Clown Starmer is evil
@@verystripeyzebra because it's a kangaroo court and pleading not guilty is a waste of time that will get you stuck in limbo for ever.
Either you do what they want or you disappear in a bureaucratic mist of red tape cycled between prisons and mental health units until you break.
Plenty of evidence of this, what happened to Julian assange?
What bull!! And what do " grooming gangs" get ???
Times radio is far far left
add a 'far'
Once upon a time in a land far far far away.
Your channel has no content and you joined RUclips on 14 Oct 2023. Fairly obvious what you are comrade.
And do you realise that Times Radio is part of the Times group which is certainly not "left"
😂😂😂
Politicians aren’t listening to the people who elected them. Too many immigrants coming in in an ad hoc manner.
They are listening, just not agreeing.
Immigration is essential to the UK - without it the NHS would cease to function and there would not be enough people to pay you pension: you need immigrants.
Did you learn that word "ad hoc" ? Ewu
Are you making a similar complaint about all the British ppl living in South Africa and other parts of Africa where they have not been kicked out, I think not so I would therefore remind you that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Immigration is and will always be a way of life if you don't like it then do not ever venture into any foreign lands
Stop it! These are not the people who elected them. These right wing thugs voted reform UK or whatever far right group they thought would bring in fascism!
Yes, way to many immigrants and you use words you don't understand.
Starmer has just made a new law stating if the public swear in public they will be fined over a hundred pounds. Good luck with that one Starlin
Grow up.
Starmer just made a new law to arrest people with low IQ.
You'd better run...
Two tier Keir will be the downfall of Britain, communism on the way. 10x More social media imprisonments than Russia
@@LordCicad There speaks the true fascist.
Just making stuff up. Typical right wing loser.
Starmer should make a documentary on how to ruin an entire country in less than a month
Starmer should be arrested for inciting misinformation
Only English rioters
There is no justice anymore period.It’s completely cockeyed.
What a mess starmer is making of uk
It's not starmer rioting, but typical loony right can never accept any responsibility, it's the politics of grievance and victimhood. Poor you everyone's picking on you.
Not the previous 14 years of Tory rule then?
All his fault, even though he has been in power for an about a month.
Yeah right.
How long he been in office?
@@nessah23 starmer looted a Greggs and burnt down a community library did he?
Most of us have no issue with criminals receiving appropriate sentences for crimes, but this must apply to all criminals. There are numerous cases of people receiving light or suspended sentences for vile crimes such as sexual assaults, killings, racially aggravated offences and so on and so on. Additionally there are cases of ludicrous non crimes resulting in fines, or jail time for non payment of licence fees and council tax. This is totally backward!
I thought Starmer was on a campaign to empty the prisons not fill them even further.
You object to violent and dangerous people going to prison?
He is a dictator.. Wants to arrest all descenting voices.. Putin on steroids
@@Steve_Coates don't know about any deaths caused by these people...do you? However, on the other side of the coin...
@@Steve_Coates How many went during BLM riots in 2020?
he is emptying the prisons, and replacing those imprisoned with Englishmen
Imagine if they showed the same swift justice to anybody carrying a knife, get caught you're in court within days and in prison within a week.
Nigel Farage is advocating this.
What about the 2 Muslim thugs that attacked the police at Manchester airport get the equivalent heavy handed punishments !
What about your football fan thugs,no mention of them. Do they not attack the police, burn and destroy shops etc.
The ethnicity is really important to you?
How about a trial by jury? If U R arrested offer no comment and plead not guilty! And demand a trial by jury at crown court
Some of them probably have and their trials will be a while yet. Given the amount of evidence much of it helpfully provided by other rioters livestreaming the violence many of them are probably going to end up being found guilty in which case as they refused to take responsibility for their actions they will end up with longer sentences than the ones who plead guilty.
Yes, you can do that, but if the weight of evidence is overwhelming, which I expect it is in these cases, then they are advised by solicitor to plead guilty, and get a lesser sentence. If they go for trial by jury, which is their right, and the weight of evidence is overwhelming, they will get a much tougher sentence. That's why some of those poor Postmasters pleading guilty.
James “Not so” Cleverly proving once again why we all considered him a right plonker while he was mismanaging his role as Home Secretary . (And all his other roles too).
I take it ricky jones has been jailed right
We'll never here his name mentioned again.
Could someone define precisely in law what constitutes thuggish behaviour, and quote the precise details of this law!
The offence you will be looking at is violent disorder.
Anything Clown Starmer doesn’t like.. He is a dictator and will arrest any descenting voice.
That's not how English law works...
Everything is unspecified and determined by court.
This is why our self defence laws are unusable, what is a "reasonable" level of force?
You're liable if what you think is reasonable force isn't agreed by the court.
@@garethkalum8297 no. The offences are defined by statute.
The concept of reasonableness is a well established legal concept.
Of course the court decide if any force used is reasonable.
@@verystripeyzebra no. Reasonable is an unspecified dynamic and dependent on the specifics of the situation in judgement.
Of course the court has judgement on reasonable force when put before court, which happens after the actionable offence, which should be judged by officers who attend the scene of the crime.
Do you understand that there is de jure and de facto law?
Do you have any training in this topic? I'm qualified level 2 under SIA.
Absolutely no justice this is horrendous Every British person is now looking to leave the country or go on Peaceful protest
Have you spoken to your Neighbours or go to work not one person agrees with that I have spoken to everybody that is person is seriously concerned and looking to stage of protest peaceful protest or leave the country immediately I work with extremely wealthy individuals that are currently plotting to remove their wealth from this country immediately and I know four police officers that have resigned since last week so prove how much you don’t leave the house
This does not appear to be justice of any description. It looks like what it is. Politically driven use of the law, applied unevenly and disproportionatly administered in relation to the crime. The speed removes anslysis of the evidence and the ability to form a defence. I am certain that anyone with financial resource could destroy the case. This simply highlights the desperation of those in power to suppress the idea. They compound the view that the working class are currently abused and mistreated by the state. The ones in prison may be guilty but the guilt is overlaid onto others who have not commited crimes but hold the same view. Smear suppress and silence. Note the complete ignorance of the primary concerns and complaints that led to the disruption. Be quiet, you are the same as the criminals if you raise the same issues. The inference and covered threats to online discourse are obviously meant to stop everyone from talking about the wizard, who everyone has now observed behind the curtain. Don't discuss the wizard, you didn't see him, that was the man from the gasboard reading the meter.
You live under a dictator.. Clown Starmer is the law now.. No descent is allowed.. Get it yet?
Im sure Elon can find some bad tweets from them he will be scouring the internet as we speak then it will go back to them
Are we supposed to be impressed. Nothing impressive about our justice system
What's frightening is that it plays out exactly as some games ahead of their time have predicted up to 25 years ago, including the manipulation of the masses by the media to believe what those in power want them to believe.
Also, written the Bible 🌟
A serious question - have the rioters who rioted when those kids were removed arrested and convicted on television? If yes then all is equal if no then i am concerned!
Why would Clown Starmer arrest his shock troops? He only arrests descenting voices against his dictatorship..
And yet met police cheif still not arrested for a criminal act
You don't get arrested for a civil offence.
According to starmer you do and what rowley did was not a civil act it was vandalism full stop ,,two tier policing at its finest@Steve_Coates
Damned right. Criminal damage, but he gets away with it.
@@Steve_Coates What rowley did wasn't a civil offence. It was criminal.
Swift response, it’s all about punishing the working class ! Justice ? I think not !
times radio has to be forbidden.
From what?
Why listen/watch
No that's what they do
It seems we have another 1789 French Revolution on our hands.😮
The Nom Dom's are leaving the country, can't blame them, wasn't it Keir's plan to tax them.? And everything labour wants to do is down to growth and what if we don't get growth...??
You mean NON Doms?
He means the Nom-Noms
@@mrharry448Nah, that's what they are.
You'll get to vote in an election.
I was under the impression the Law lords , were in charge of sentencing not our PM ?
Sentencing guidelines are issued by Parliament, judges interpret the law and apply those sentencing guidelines. The PM has no part in directly setting sentences.
The "law lords" have not existed since 2009 when the Supreme Court was created. Do keep up.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar thank you for your information, I’m now enlightened
Clown Starmer is a dictator and will do anything to imprison any descenting voice..
How on Earth can some of these sentences be justified. Where is the incremental approach for those with no offending or next to no offending history?
It’s called living in a totalitarian dictatorship.. Get used to it.. Clown Starmer makes your decisions now
Amnesty International !
Thunderbirds!
FAB @@LordOfLight
Then 15 years , then 20 , then 30 years...... I reckon that there are government inlisted agitators out there causing destruction
Apparently the trade union is running the County... What could go wrong..
PRISON for STARMER ! Where's the JUSTICE ? BRITISH 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤️🤍💙 JUSTICE ?
What is average time of incarnation for rapists or child molesters? Isn't that below 10 years?
people can protest that's our right that's the law sort the border out
Remember BLM?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
I remember BLM. Missed the part went out looking for 'white' people to beat up and 'white' homes and businesses to burn to the ground. I just remember occasional acts of vandalism
I don't recall them sending hundreds of police to hospital or trying to burn people alive.
@@Steve_Coates 27 police they sent to hospital.
So try remembering better.
Goverment....should send themselves to jail. They are responsible for this mess at the end of the day.
Did you know that 5000 immigrants have crossed the channel since Starmer became Crime Minister. They are not thugs. Just ordinary people who have had enough
What do you get for inciting protests and riots , as this is exactly what our delightful 2 Tier Starmer caused , as for Cleavly wasn’t he someone who tried to fleece paying his taxes , talking about paying for crime did he , no he paid his way out of it , one rule for them another for us , haven’t heard Ricky Jones has been remanded in custody???
A former Labour councillor has been remanded in custody after he was charged with encouraging violence while addressing a crowd during an anti-fascist protest. Ricky Jones, 57, was wearing a Hugo Boss T-shirt as he entered no pleas during an appearance at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Friday. Due to apper in court 6 Sep.
I don't believe for a minute that they will arrest Starmer.
Swift justice, political show trials...... the UK in 2024😢
It’s called living in a dictatorship.. Clown Starmer will allow no descent..
Starmer should be in prison for treason.
How on earth can they have a fair trial fast tracked its idiotic at best . It will probably be a technicality of which they can appeal
How do you think you can appeal after you've plead guilty and there's lot's of video evidence?
By having a trial and following the rules of disclosure and evidence.
You don’t get fair trials under a Dictator Clown Starmer.. His Brown Shirt stormtroopers will arrest you and throw away the key.. No descenting voice will be allowed
@@verystripeyzebra rather quick to gather all the evidence though and seems not very thorough considering it's . Very rushed indeed
@@alwayssunny4007 all the evidence....what evidence. It'll likely be video evidence. This isn't complicated fraud. The easiest cases will be heard first ...ie those pleading guilty.
How long do you suggest would be reasonable?
You're just bending over backwards to come up.with anything at all.
What about the 2 men who assaulted the police womens and other officers at Manchester airport....
Absolutely disgusting two tier justice and policing 🤬
If they've got any sense they'll all plead 'Not Guilty'. Then they won't be starting any prison sentence 'just after that'. In the current state of the Court System they'll all be retired.
Musk has been helpful and accurate
So where there's a will there's a way? For the last however many years the Law's been turninng a blind eye to shoplifting which has turned into an industrial pasttime for some, and has negative knock-on consequences for communities: from higher prices to a society blighted by a sub-section for whom this life is normalised thus lubricating the passage into violent organised criminality.
Just 10 years while people not paying tv licenses get longer
I need to leave this country it is a mess. RIP England😢
Starmer aint going to last his behaviour is appalling. Makes you wonder why they fought in two world wars it's a massive insult to our war heroes.
what about those that beat up the police officers in Manchester airport, 20 hours community service and a pat on the back?!?!?
Nothing for the Duggan protestors or the ones who battered the police in Manchester Airport though.... Ahh well.
Over 3 thousand were before courts from the Tottenham riot's.
And what about people carrying and using knives and rapists ?
Will that include " thuggish rioters " of every colour creed and religious leaning ? Just asking for a friend
STOP THE INVASION Starmer ! 2 Tier Kier
Will this apply to thuggish police officers?
Strange how this reaction from the powers that be is different to the BLM riots
‘To send out this political system’? I take ‘message’ is meant. Absurd question it is a message from the courts that violent disorder will not be tolerated. It seems that getting tough on violence can be defined as ‘political’?
Soo just to be clear.
They want the police to act swiftly when the law is broken by 'grooming gangs', but don't want the police to act AT ALL when buildings are being burnt down, innocent citizens being beaten up and police being assaulted and put in hospital.
Got it.
It’s called living in a Dictatorship.. Get used to the boot on your throat.
It depends on were the police are aloud to police but if they busy catching far right then it will be down to the community leaders to police the rest
Who are these far right groups. Who runs them. Where are they based. How do we go about joining them. This bloke should have never been in a position of authority he is either delusional or is spinning a thin political lie.
“Capacity to protect the community…..” Which community? The Jewish community in London every Saturday? Is it one particular community?
I thought we were releasing prisoner early because prisons full ????
What about polite, well-heeled and eloquent rioters?
Will this apply to the Muslim mobs chasing oeople and police with machetes and assaulting innocent people? I hope so
‘Consequences’ ?
I am age 73 and really wish there was a ‘Block’ option on Channels such as this 😡
The only one that should be facing prison is starma look what future he is giving his kids surely his wife doesn't agree with him .
Prisons are full. Is this what they call a prison swap?😊
Scotland represented 37 Labour Party MP's Westminster parliament actually won Scotland Thomas. Adam Tompkins lawyer he vote Labour party he auper Rich Thomas.
What about the covid have we forgot about how the MPs m8s made millions. Nighthoods Dame Sir and all that jazz look am in agreement if you brake the law you pay price. People power we need yo come together we're not here long.
But only if they are white and British in 2 Tier Kier’s watch
Poor rioters
They’ve already been released
Dystopian
How about the Muslims with machetes are they going to prison. Let's see. Nope.
Only british ones
Not a chance getting ten years
The Times - the toilet paper of record .