My excavator, ("VOTE" Brand), has the pull start cord assy removed and a piece of duct going tight to the side panel, drawing fresh air by the engine flywheel fan/impeller allowing for positive air flow into and out of the engine compartment. Thanks for making this video. Good luck to you!
Just wanted to say "THANK YOU" as I did this to mine as well with fusible (15a) inline link. Also added aluminum heat shielding around the exhaust, gas tank, and full sheet under the seat. Changed all new American zerks also. Works Great.
Several commenters, here, seem to believe the fans are 12" fans. They are 7 inch fans. I have almost the same machine, and a 12" fan would never fit in those areas. I can guarantee that those are 7 inch fans. I hope this is helpful information.
Nice video. One recommendation…get that plastic off your seat. Took mine off right after buying it and the seat bottom was covered in mold and rust. Thanks for the video!
I would also recommend extending your exhaust pipe, before the muffler, to re-locate the muffler outside of the engine enclosure. Also, wrap the exhaust pipe in exhaust pipe shielding, to minimize the heat radiating inside of your engine enclosure. Use a reflective insulation on the bottom of the seat.
Frank. You are right. With most cooling systems on almost everything, the goal is to extract or pull the heat from the area. But any air movement I'm sure is a definite upgrade.
@@jaybrown651 Nah. With an air cooled engine, you want to get cold high velocity air to the engine, sucking out the warm air is way less effective and recirculates a lot of cold air. Ever tried to inhale the air over a hot beverage to cool it down? Nah, because it doesn't work. Same thing with a hair dryer. You can blow a piece of paper around from 6ft away with the high velocity air, but if you try to suck anything from more than a few inches, you're out of luck.
When building high power computer towers. You have cool air pulling into the case through lower front fans and pulling air out of the case at the top rear of the case. This seems like the most effective way to cool. I'm no engineer though 😂
Would it not work better with one fan pulling and the other pushing to create a flow rather than two fans pushing against each other and negating flow? The fact that you removed the back panel shows that this does not work as well as hoped. Since they are bi-directional fans it would be an easy experiment.
I'd say the grate on the back of the cover has enough holes that the fans aren't really going to be fighting each other. If these two fans were covering the only grates in the machine, one puller and one pusher would certainly be better. In this case, it probably doesn't matter and it'll prevent the fans themselves from being completely heat soaked.
just posted a video to my channel of me testing one of these mini excavators with a TMK 150 tree sheer. I was mind blown how well it handled 5-6" diameter trees!
Amazon sells a 200 watt flexible solar panel (100 watt at harborfreight) for $80 that could either keep the battery charged or power another fan, and the panel fits perfectly on top of the sun canopy.
I'm curious if your battery is holding up? I believe the charging circuit is only 10 amp on that engine, and the fans draw about 6.7 amps each, so theoretically running both would drain the battery over time.
This has been my issue. I have an H15 and installed 2 10” fans and the battery kept dying. I have installed a switch for the fans that I can turn them on and off hoping that works. Fans made a huge difference but battery dying twice was annoying.
@@johnabraham2290 I used 7" fans on mine, they more or less fit the circle of holes on each side. As of yet, they have not killed the battery, even running both for a couple of hours. I have the fan on the left coming on with the battery disconnect, and the right one is switched so I can use it as needed.
That’s what I am switching mine to coming on with a switch only as selected. They were powered through the hour meter wiring so when the battery disconnect came on it would run both but I think 2 10” fan draw too much when they are both running non stop. Also do you run yours only at full power all the time? Also have to redesign the exhaust. It already cracked and the shield also cracked.
@@johnabraham2290 I would think the 10" fans would draw more current than the 7". I just use one most of the time, I have it exhausting on the left side where the engine air comes out and the pump is. I just kick the right one on if very hot out and I'm working the machine hard. Also, I have one set up blowing in and the other exhausting. To reverse the one, I had to flip the blade AND reverse polarity on the wires. Then it will move the same amount of air, but in the opposite direction.
If you don't have a Pull - Push setup for the area you're cooling the setup is completely useless, if you're pulling air in.. And not pushing it out, the air is just stagnant. It's the same with a computer case setup
@@bman6502 Correct, You want air to be transferring though the engine compartment, not just being blown on the engine. You could technically have a push-pull setup also! It's the same theory, just turn the fans the other way. I would opt for a push-pull setup considering you're taking the air from the outside, cycling it though the engine, while the other fan is pulling the hot air from the engine out.
Thanks to our environmental extremists, the Briggs and Stratton is the only motor to pass emissions unless you want to get the Kubota diesel which doubles the price.
@@dalethornton1113 I kept contacting different eBay sellers that indicated the Vietnam engine Kopu KD192F engine in their listing description, but when asked about the engine they all edited their auctions to show it was a B&S. So the EPA change must have just occurred. Sucks damn it. I'm waiting for a delivery on one from the AGT sellers in Chicago. Watched many videos here that had only positive things give the cost. Only negatives I found were from dealers that were pushing their branded product.
Yes most US buyers are now getting the Briggs gas engine, cuz the Koop or ChangChai 1-cyl Diesels are not EPA- or CARB-compliant. In the latter case, the main flywheel fan is ducted to the outside to bring in cool air. Most of the makers have not bothered doing this with the gas engines. I did for mine when I bought it 5y ago from China and installed my own gas engine. If you use an internet search engine, you will find pix of how I did it. Utube is great for vids (see mine for the XN08), but does not allow commenters to respond with pix. The automotive electric fans do move a lot of air, but some of the gas engines, like my Duromax 420, do not put out enough current to power them. The B&S alternator puts out more current.
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My excavator, ("VOTE" Brand), has the pull start cord assy removed and a piece of duct going tight to the side panel, drawing fresh air by the engine flywheel fan/impeller allowing for positive air flow into and out of the engine compartment. Thanks for making this video. Good luck to you!
Great Video. The manufacturer should add at least 1 fan to those small excavator. 🎉
did the exact same thing to my QH12.. both pulling air in, works fantastic
Great idea. Where did you buy the fans. I recently got an excavator very similar to yours and would like to do the same thing.
those are standard radiator car fan 12v i believe, you can buy those in any car parts store
Just wanted to say "THANK YOU" as I did this to mine as well with fusible (15a) inline link. Also added aluminum heat shielding around the exhaust, gas tank, and full sheet under the seat. Changed all new American zerks also. Works Great.
once you dial them in they are solid machines
Several commenters, here, seem to believe the fans are 12" fans. They are 7 inch fans. I have almost the same machine, and a 12" fan would never fit in those areas. I can guarantee that those are 7 inch fans. I hope this is helpful information.
Great job! Thanks for sharing. Looking to buy one of these minis so the upgrade is nice to know.
Nice video. One recommendation…get that plastic off your seat. Took mine off right after buying it and the seat bottom was covered in mold and rust. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the video. I am going to wire mine up with the harness for a LED lightning system with a switch.
Where did you get the fans? And what size are they 12inch ?
I would also recommend extending your exhaust pipe, before the muffler, to re-locate the muffler outside of the engine enclosure. Also, wrap the exhaust pipe in exhaust pipe shielding, to minimize the heat radiating inside of your engine enclosure. Use a reflective insulation on the bottom of the seat.
Has that worked okay having a fan on each side blowing on the motor, Any issues since you have done? Also, what gauge wiring did you use? Thanks
Thank you for posting this. May I ask what amperage the fuse is?
If both fans are blowing out of the machine it would would seem to be most efficient to me.
He was probably trying to create positive pressure
Frank. You are right. With most cooling systems on almost everything, the goal is to extract or pull the heat from the area. But any air movement I'm sure is a definite upgrade.
@@jaybrown651 Nah. With an air cooled engine, you want to get cold high velocity air to the engine, sucking out the warm air is way less effective and recirculates a lot of cold air. Ever tried to inhale the air over a hot beverage to cool it down? Nah, because it doesn't work. Same thing with a hair dryer. You can blow a piece of paper around from 6ft away with the high velocity air, but if you try to suck anything from more than a few inches, you're out of luck.
Would it not suck in hot exhaust? That’s why I think he wants them sucking in through the sides and out through the back.
When building high power computer towers. You have cool air pulling into the case through lower front fans and pulling air out of the case at the top rear of the case. This seems like the most effective way to cool. I'm no engineer though 😂
Would it not work better with one fan pulling and the other pushing to create a flow rather than two fans pushing against each other and negating flow? The fact that you removed the back panel shows that this does not work as well as hoped. Since they are bi-directional fans it would be an easy experiment.
I'd say the grate on the back of the cover has enough holes that the fans aren't really going to be fighting each other. If these two fans were covering the only grates in the machine, one puller and one pusher would certainly be better. In this case, it probably doesn't matter and it'll prevent the fans themselves from being completely heat soaked.
@@GarrettGalloway👌 that back has plenty of air flow gap
just posted a video to my channel of me testing one of these mini excavators with a TMK 150 tree sheer. I was mind blown how well it handled 5-6" diameter trees!
Good Job, friend, It is nice machines. I purchased one about a month ago from Denny. I had mine shipped down to TX. It works perfect the work I do.
Nice they moved the hydraulic tank forward now. H12 it's where your cup holder is. I've found with one fan it pushes a lot of heat up under your feet.
Nice clean install !!!
Wouldnt they be hot all the time if it was connected to the starter
Amazon sells a 200 watt flexible solar panel (100 watt at harborfreight) for $80 that could either keep the battery charged or power another fan, and the panel fits perfectly on top of the sun canopy.
Are these 12 inch fans? Wondering what is the largest size that fits to maximize the effect.
Use 7inch 8:05
I'm curious if your battery is holding up? I believe the charging circuit is only 10 amp on that engine, and the fans draw about 6.7 amps each, so theoretically running both would drain the battery over time.
Iv had no issues with charging, it appears to be keeping up with the demand
This has been my issue. I have an H15 and installed 2 10” fans and the battery kept dying. I have installed a switch for the fans that I can turn them on and off hoping that works. Fans made a huge difference but battery dying twice was annoying.
@@johnabraham2290 I used 7" fans on mine, they more or less fit the circle of holes on each side. As of yet, they have not killed the battery, even running both for a couple of hours. I have the fan on the left coming on with the battery disconnect, and the right one is switched so I can use it as needed.
That’s what I am switching mine to coming on with a switch only as selected. They were powered through the hour meter wiring so when the battery disconnect came on it would run both but I think 2 10” fan draw too much when they are both running non stop. Also do you run yours only at full power all the time?
Also have to redesign the exhaust. It already cracked and the shield also cracked.
@@johnabraham2290 I would think the 10" fans would draw more current than the 7". I just use one most of the time, I have it exhausting on the left side where the engine air comes out and the pump is. I just kick the right one on if very hot out and I'm working the machine hard. Also, I have one set up blowing in and the other exhausting. To reverse the one, I had to flip the blade AND reverse polarity on the wires. Then it will move the same amount of air, but in the opposite direction.
This is what my QH12 looks like, but it's Orange.
How are the fans working out blowing air into the engine compartment.
Probably trying to create positive pressure
they work great, provides a constant breeze over the engine
so did it make it cooler
If you change the rotation, I believe you have to flip the blade around.
Are they both flowing air the same direction
yes both blowing air into the engine bay
No relay?
If you don't have a Pull - Push setup for the area you're cooling the setup is completely useless, if you're pulling air in.. And not pushing it out, the air is just stagnant. It's the same with a computer case setup
So are you recommending one brings air in and the other pulls it out??
@@bman6502 Correct, You want air to be transferring though the engine compartment, not just being blown on the engine.
You could technically have a push-pull setup also!
It's the same theory, just turn the fans the other way. I would opt for a push-pull setup considering you're taking the air from the outside, cycling it though the engine, while the other fan is pulling the hot air from the engine out.
What size fans you run?
7 inch 12v off amazon
@@restoration-projectsThank you 👍
Thanks for the video
Thanks for this.
Absolutely
These only have petrol engines in America, for the rest of the world they are diesel and don't need additional cooling
Thanks to our environmental extremists, the Briggs and Stratton is the only motor to pass emissions unless you want to get the Kubota diesel which doubles the price.
@@dalethornton1113 I kept contacting different eBay sellers that indicated the Vietnam engine Kopu KD192F engine in their listing description, but when asked about the engine they all edited their auctions to show it was a B&S. So the EPA change must have just occurred. Sucks damn it.
I'm waiting for a delivery on one from the AGT sellers in Chicago. Watched many videos here that had only positive things give the cost. Only negatives I found were from dealers that were pushing their branded product.
Yes most US buyers are now getting the Briggs gas engine, cuz the Koop or ChangChai 1-cyl Diesels
are not EPA- or CARB-compliant. In the latter case, the main flywheel fan is ducted to the outside to bring
in cool air. Most of the makers have not bothered doing this with the gas engines. I did for mine when
I bought it 5y ago from China and installed my own gas engine. If you use an internet search engine, you will
find pix of how I did it.
Utube is great for vids (see mine for the XN08), but does not allow commenters to respond with pix.
The automotive electric fans do move a lot of air, but some of the gas engines, like my Duromax 420, do not
put out enough current to power them. The B&S alternator puts out more current.
Couldn't follow how you wired fans together and went to fast. Can you go slower and steps better?
No link in the description to the fans.😡👎 That's why you got a Dislike.