Nami still having that voice honestly makes the skin more fun to me in the sense that I can totally see some eclipse knights who don't know better underestimating her despite her best efforts to sound intimidating and then those people die horribly
I cannot fathom that akali was in coven and not in street demons Edit: I get the points that akali wouldn't fit into street demons cause she a) is a human b) already has KDA, which are fait points, but still why is her coven skin so boring, if you had to make an alkali coven skin, then at least make it interesting
My biggest issue with the Akali skins is that the Prestige one to me almost looks like it could pass as whatever the Nightmare Crime City skin line is, given it looks like a dark suit jacket and tie
Here's a fun fact about the legendary Nami: In Brasil, the voice actress sung a reinvented evil Nami version of "Poor Unfortunate Souls" from Little Mermaid outside of game stuff, she was just as happy as the players and gave them a whole SONG, it was amazing
At least some of them realised the ocean song hair situation was stupid and now that Crystal rose Sera exists in WR they changed to being chill and asking politely to maybe port it over to PC
@@P.H691 Hey I actually understand where the Gwen mains are coming from, she has more skins in other games than she does in the main one, exclusive skins are a dumb and manipulative practice used to get player to try and spend on Riot's other games so let's not pretend they are a good thing or that this isn't Riot's fault to begin with, they're a giant company that wants your money and doesn't care about you so let's stop pretending they're our friend.
I'm not mad at more melee champs finally joining Camille in the coven, I am however disappointed at how unimaginative Akali and Elise were. Akali as a witch that casts darkness and flays her enemies, working in the animal skull themes to maybe wear a beak in place of her ninja mask or something could have been really stunning and genuinely dark and fashionable, but unsurprisingly they just picked the most polished and bland concept. And Elise is frankly giving paintbrush spider, it's an exceptionally basic design and I would've personally really liked to see the spider give Old God vibes like Warwick did, being made of leaves, metal, and rock, but given that she already has 2 'flower spider' skins I suppose they wanted to step away from the Elderwood core thematic, which begs the question - why even pick her?
Xayah and Rakan already have broken covenant, and elderwood skins, which are both from the same alternate universe that coven is from, not to say they couldn't get the skins you suggested, it's just unlikely
How hard was it for Riot to make a bark-skinned leafy Old God Mordekaiser instead of another metal-plated Mordekaiser... That would've been awesome. Oh yeah, Nami's is the best hands down.
Yeahh i think could've made efforts to make his color pallette and texture more reminiscent of Voli or Warwick's boney texture armor. He looks great but its justt missing something that connects him more to the rest of the old gods
The sad part is that Riot listened to the Syndra fans but the Xayah and Rakan fans are just asking to please get skins with effort put into them for a fan favorite theme and Riot is ignoring it. Makes it obvious Riot only listens to threats cause it takes anything less than that as “who cares theyll buy it anyways”
Xayah and Rakan fans ask nicely, and Riot only listens to the crazy people while asking people to not act like crazy people. Never sell your soul to league of legends enough to be a main of anyone
The thing about that that's bothering me the most is those skins are on a time limit now, they're gonna be Mythic vaulted at the end of the year so there's no voting with your wallet, you either get it or don't.
Dude, the rioter handling the syndra damage control on twitter said that it wasn't entirely the harassment that made them delay the skin but because they needed to "do better" but if that is the case why didn't they have the same energy for all the other skins that had a ton of feedback like taliyah's X/R's, SF samira etc. Hell, Yorick mains only wanted a hat but you'll get a lot of excuses. A modder already accomplished that 2 years ago. I don't condone harassment but if the syndra mains didnt make a fuss they would've shipped that skin without a care in the world, they just wanted to "do better" he says lol.
@@AdMerIinthey listen to whatever they think will make them the most money. Syndra mains have high expectations for coven so Riot thinks they’ll lose money if they don’t listen. Meanwhile xayah and Rakan are star guardian skins, as well as xayah/rakan matching skins so people will buy them anyway and they won’t lose much money.
As an Akali main I apporove of this justification! XD I actually caught myself saying she "ninja'd" her way into many skinlines she really didn't belong.
I am a very happy Nami main. I have been wanting a Legendary for years, but I never posted about it on any forums, nor did I scream and yell at riot about it. I was just waiting patiently and hoping for the best. I wouldn't have minded if Syndra got the Legendary either.
I feel like Nami's voice works for half her lines, like she feels like a young overconfident "hmm yes i'm so powerful and cool and pretty i'm the best and now i'm gonna kill you" even if the other half of the lines are a bit...
I got the skin and I think it sounds a lot more believable in-game than just the ripped voice lines tbh, and the voice lines were my only real issue with the skin at first. I’d say many of them are too long though
Nicky, you are so brave by stating that neither Syndra or Nami, deserved the legendary. Can't wait to see the reaction in Twitter. Also, yeah, must be nice, getting a legendary or any other tier of skin for your champ, after 8 years. (Kindred copium)
Syndra and nami mains: figthing to see who gets the legendary skin and whining a lot Me: disapointed that old god fiddlesticks is still not a real thing
I would like a cute floating nickyboi head accompanied with a dissapearing thumbs up rat to reassure me about every hard decision I have to make in my life.
the worst thing about this is riot listening after being threatened whereas all those civil complains about other skins are just being left on read. you're right, they are just encouraging this behaviour.
@@scarletwarlock9325 i feel you are forgetting the point susvik make. they are saying that riot IS listening to the loud, dumb minority instead of the calmer rational majority, which in turn teaches the fanbase that being loud and dumb will get them what they want
As a Rell main, you didn’t see all three of us start throwing death threats at rioters when Rell ended up in SG instead of high noon, which was the skinline put out RIGHT BEFORE SG. Sometimes you get what you get and you don't through a fit.
After a certain point i feel like it falls on Riot. Like no obviously no one deserves death threats. But if Taliyah, Yorick, and Ornn player's asking nicely gives them nothing but a middle finger and 5 minute adjustments while sending death threats gives seraphine and friends whole new skins.... well at that point they're just encouraging it.
It literally happened with Pentakill Lost Chapter Yorick's hat. People asked them to either keep it or just make it into a toggle, since Yorick wears it in his recall, and Riot essentially said "No, lmaoooo"
@@danielbarnes1241 We were almost part of the Three Year Club twice in a row since launch. We're prepared for our options to be base, Thunder God, Elderwood (goat skin), and Space Groove until the bombs drop tbh.
Sometimes I fantazise about a Syndra main coming home drunk and beating me until I feel numb. Kicking me in the ribs until I can hardly breathe, only to start apologizing, holding me gently all night until I fall asleep crying in their arms
My favorite part about this controversy. Whenever we bring up the harassment and how it's never ok to send death threats there's a small community that have a need to insert themselves and relentlessly defend themselves saying that they're were genuinely sharing there criticisms and that the death threats meant nothing but a small minority. Even though it takes less than 5 seconds to understand that if anyone wasnt harrassing and just sharing their thoughts and criticisms respectful aren't the ones we are talking about it and just because you weren't involve in the problem doesnt nullify the general issues and it doesnt detract acutall meaningful criticisms. Like i know it sounds pedantic when reading this but it drives me nuts Whenever we just trying to address horrible actions like harassment there always someone going: WeLl I dIdN't Do AnYtHINg WrOnG sO tHeRe Is No CoNtRoVeRsY tHeReFoRe tHeRe Is No HaRaSsMeNt OnLiNe
4:48 this is what happens when you do lack of research. The Coven designer Riot Stellari said Syndra was the inspiration for whole Coven skinline and she was saving her for legendary in future but she left Riot due to mistreatment. Syndra as Scarlet Witch as legendary was the whole point.
Both true damage and K/DA already mimic the effects of street demons without the lore. It would be redundant to make a third street thug skin of Akali that looks and feels the exact same way. Her coven skin does not dip deeper into the dark nitty gritty of the coven lore and barely scratches it in appearance. Meanwhile the prestige makes her look like she's from the battle academy universe with the bright colors on the jacket and her hair.
On the topic of champions with two skins in the same universe, the coven universe has it very very bad. They've shoved omen of the dark, elderwood, death blossom, coven, old god and eclipse (i might be forgetting even more) into the same universe, and champions like ahri, leblanc, elise, kayle, nocturne, etc. all have multiple skins in this universe by now. This one universe makes up roughly 4% of all of the skins in league, iirc
heh I think it fits tbqh, the only odd one out would be death blossom. It's basically an epic tale of witch hunt and all of it being kept in the book Spectral Fiddle is keeping.
On the whole fiasko with the conven syndes situations. Id like to tell that i as a ahri main when pool party first was teased along with jinx so was pool party ahri. So many fan consepts but riot has never gone threw feels more like the synda situation was Them gas lighting Them selfs
Imagine the biggest criticism that you can give a banger skin, is that the champ got better ones already. Valid, but just shows how insane the quality standards are by now
I am so glad I didn’t know about this skin line until this video. How the fuck are people having wars over skins when there’s two actual wars going on? There are more important things than Syndra’s fucking thighs or Nani’s fucking… fish guts. Anyways thanks for the video :)
Through a lot of discussion, I have found something VERY funny. Akali and Briar… should have swapped skins. If they need to fill the Akali Quota, put her in street demons, make them more splotchy and messy with the paints and the skinline would have sold like hot cakes. Briar in Coven as a Witch or a ghoul created to harvest energy? It was written in the stars!
Even tho i (and arguably the 90% of Akali players as well) dind't think of Akali as a fitting champ for a Coven skinline, it's the same argument but reverse as the Syndra fits into it and deserves a legendary in the thematic... and you said to it something like "Syndra doesn't deserve a legendary only because you think she fits in it" ?
As a syndra main and a nami main I’m super happy about the nami skin, I don’t keep up with league news or anything so it was an awesome surprise! Of course I’m still waiting for a syndra legendary skin but til then I’ll be using star guardian, tho ngl most her skins are kinda basic oops
Honestly, I loved Nami Coven, but what I want is an Elderwood or Old God Legendary, both are still part of the Eclipse universe, it's sad to see only the Knights and Covens winning, but I'm happy if they still at least continue to win something like Karthus and Wukong this year. Although in the end they will end up making Lux or Sera the Legendary of Elderwood...
The Akali one is such a mess... But I can sort of see the idea of a vampire coven witch skin totally working for her, if her dashs changed her to look like a shadowy vampire demon flying at you, and her shurkins and kunai were replaced with magic bolts.. and they atleast gave her a voice fliter to make her sound more eerie.
@@taelynjessica435 I mean, good point that also would ahve worked better, but my point is more that they could ahve made this skin work if they actually put the effort into doing it properly. But it's like they didn't even try.
Great video; but on the controversy topic. The MAIN issue i see (or notice imo) is that riot JUST responds to harassment (IM NOT IN FAVOR); but today vandril uploaded 2 champ breaking bugs that were on PBE and mentioned, yet they didnt care, but something like this, there are posts on posts from tons of rioters. At the start of the year they wanted more clarity, and i feel that went down a drain again. People just see what works and lizard brain it when OBVIOUSLY its not the way to do anything
Harassing devs is a problem, but so is the fact it takes harassing devs to get anything done at all, if a big stink isn't raised about something then Riot will just ignore it, we see the same thing with other huge companies like RUclips or Activision Blizzard, giant companies only react to negative stimuli and that's a fact.
Ignoring the completely crazy Syndra mains acting like anyone DESERVES A COSMETIC, I get the critic that Syndra really fit the skinline perfectly. Riot just... doesnt care. They showed again and again that they rather do repetitive products for the sake of doing it regardless if they fit the universe or not. In this very SAME skinline you have damn COVEN AKALI, with TWO skins, NEITHER who look like Coven. Its more about a complain about Riot in general instead of about this skinline
Coven Akali fits the general aesthetic of the Coven skin-line, but I do agree that the Prestige version (which should be inspired by and loosely linked to the skin-line) is not remotely Coven in the slightest. It feels more like a Crime City Nightmare or Broken Covenant prestige than a Coven one.
Feel bad for syndra mains but nami mains have always been some of the the sweetest most passive of the playerbase and the former totally blew this out of proportion xd Coming from a nami/sera main who is proud of rito for Nami’s new skin but won’t be buying it, and is indeed, salty about Gwen and sera wr exclusives
You are clearly being delusional if you think Nami mains are sweetest and most passive LMAO. The whole fight between Nami and Syndra started because Nami mains going into Syndra mains sub just to harass and trash talk about Syndra and the players. It got to the point even Nami mains mod had to apologise to Syndra mains lmao.
@@scarletwarlock9325 I never heard abt this lmao not even in syndramains sub mentioned any nami Reddit users trashing on them?? Either way I was talking abt the playerbase as a whole, not the minority on Reddit. I know I am biased, but saying I’m delusional when you’re putting words in my mouth is ironic.
My faves are definitely Nilah and Nami Nilah's crimson robes, whip and effects look so cool and they contrast well with her white hair And Nami because shes fuckin Ursula and thats cool!
Nami main here - this was a wild rollercoaster of emotions. From shock and wishing the leak was wrong, to maximum hype to see lots of passion put into the skin, as well as the Sea Witch nods and the *freaking Leviathan*. Wanted a dragon skinline (Dragonmancer is LoR-only so far 🙃) or Shan Hai Scrolls for her first legendary, but Coven surprised me in a very good way! Can't negate that all the chaos soured the hype though... Syndra could've been an amazing Coven legendary too.
Something i want to see in a future coven return is either coven Aurelion sol or coven rek’sai as the leviathan that Nami worships. Personally i think it would be really cool
Calling nilah a universally good champion is a weird take lmao. shes literally a slave to a god, not permitted to even feel her own emotions anymore and being incapable of rejecting its demands
I love the Nami skin! Honestly I think it’s great. A Syndra legendary would just be evil witch Syndra. With Nami it allows for an Ursula type siren witch of the seas
Yall delusional. Coven Nami didnt bring anything new to the table. This "ursala siren thingy" she can get the same theme from crime city nightmare or Nightbringer while Coven Syndra got anticipated due to Scarlet Witch especially after Multiverse of Madness. Syndra would bring so much to Coven lore as an prophesied Witch that against both Coven and Knights while Nami is just another witch.
Evelynn's Coven legendary is heavily similar to her base and it still ended up being amazing. I think legendaries can reevaluate and expand some traits a character already has there's nothing wrong with choosing safer and obvious options, if anything we need that because Riot has been doing questionable shit lately.
Ever since Necrit referenced Rell in his video covering the Coven situation I would've loved to see Rell in Coven with a scary bone horse. It would make sense too given her lance making her look like a knight and would connect her to Morde's creepy walking bone armor he's got going on. I imagine Morde would be her patron god in that universe.
While I agree the Syndra legendary was never promised and people weren't entitled to it, Riot was very aware of the expectations people had. And I think the reasons they're so mad are: 1, the epic skin is bad even when compared to other epics, and 2, the epic skin means the legendary will never, ever happen. They'd be less angry if she hadn't gotten. A skin at all and they could still dream of the legendary one day. And while the behavior of some Syndra mains was deplorable and cannot be excused, we also need to acknowledge that for while Riot's MO has been to keep silent and leave the developers to be the ones bracing the reaction from the community, and that's deplorable too. In general, I think there were so many things that could've been done to avoid this whole thing, ND when the two weeks are up and the skin barely changes things will get even worse.
Exactly like i was upset that she didn’t a legendary oh well maybe she will for an upcoming new skin line, I’ll just take the epic but when you look at the epic it’s completely lackluster. Barely any effects on ult or passive, if her old god is morde then where is the symbolism. They added weird orbs that look like dirty poros and called it a day. For the amount of anticipation for a legendary I was expecting this to at least be the best epic in this batch not the worst…
We Pyke mains have been eating mad good for a long time so my perspective might be a bit skewed but damn! Even though we arguably got too much attention, the war between these goobers has kinda just made me glad we haven't had to suffer the same fate. The coven skinline has never been too big a thing for me so I'm relatively indifferent to these buuut Mordekaiser is really fucking cool.
I love this skinline so much, so seeing this dumb controversy (with Syndra, one of my favorite champs to play and design wise) hurts me. Like, yeah, she would've been cool as a legendary, but, well, wasn't meant to be. And yeah, most of my favorite champs in the top 3 don't have legendaries (Pantheon, Warwick, Quinn, Syndra and Aurelion Sol, the only one that has is Ahri). But that means that I'll just have to wait a bit more and usually that pays off (except if you are a Samira main)
In my personal opinion, Nami’s voice being so cute actually adds to the character, she tries to be this intimidating and imposing witch, but she’s trying too hard and that’s fun
As an Akali user I’m particularly pissed that she got the prestige, if they have given the prestige to Syndra the drama would have been reduced (which b4 you say she already has star guardian, Akali has KDA )
True also giving Syndra a lore update or ASU would have made this 0 drama but Riot refuses and "Syndra is a very powerful character so we not gonna update her unless she supports a big event like Ruination" so our hope to get new voicelines and animations is only through legendary 😢
Morgana is my favorite coven skin along with Eve, and Mordekaiser. I won’t use any chromas as base fits the theme best. . Nami looks good and while I feel Syndra should have gotten the legendary, Nami benefits more (an epic coven Nami’s voice and mermaid model would not have fit the theme).
It's weird that all 3 Rell mains haven't gotten upset at her lack of skins.
Hey now there are at least six of us since the rework😂
If a Rell main screams on the internet, do they make a sound?
@@UnkillableMrStake Seven! I'm getting back into Rell.
as long as we don't need to wait 1000 days
I’m a rell main and akali getting the coven spot in a skin line that includes all of rell’s enemies (morde, cass, lb, Elise) is painful 😂
Nami still having that voice honestly makes the skin more fun to me in the sense that I can totally see some eclipse knights who don't know better underestimating her despite her best efforts to sound intimidating
and then those people die horribly
It reminds me of Mila Kunis playing the wicked witch of the west.
I think it works great, she's sorta like Veigar - an adorable evil gremlin.
Put Nami in a comically oversized witch hat and it's perfect.
She sounds like Morgana from Persona 5
@@thetruestar6348She is lol
I cannot fathom that akali was in coven and not in street demons
Edit: I get the points that akali wouldn't fit into street demons cause she a) is a human b) already has KDA, which are fait points, but still why is her coven skin so boring, if you had to make an alkali coven skin, then at least make it interesting
I'm kind of expecting her if they ever release more street demons skins, but then again this is riot we're talking about
Money, my friend, money
It would just be k/da akali without the music
Doesn't KDA Akali use Spray-paint?
coven worlds need ramen
I love how the joke about Poro screaming in 7:05 appears in ALL of his new skin videos and never loses its fun.
it also sounds like skoohc screaming in jeopardy vids
@@drakensong9953 i was gonna say it sounded like tyler one screaming but with a really quick cut
@@betalite because it is Tyler1 screaming
Considering Nilah's whole water thing, my headcanon is that the Old God she sealed is actually the Leviathan that Coven Nami calls
That'd actually be funny, classic head cult leader bbeg getting cucked by something unrelated to a main faceless hero
Wrong.
She sealed Old God Ashlesh
My biggest issue with the Akali skins is that the Prestige one to me almost looks like it could pass as whatever the Nightmare Crime City skin line is, given it looks like a dark suit jacket and tie
Or Broken convenant or battle academia lul. But tbh the effects are good
Looks like broken covenant
Looks like everything except coven
Nightmare Crime City Akali accomplished what Coven Akali tried to do. I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds Coven Akali so bland
Here's a fun fact about the legendary Nami: In Brasil, the voice actress sung a reinvented evil Nami version of "Poor Unfortunate Souls" from Little Mermaid outside of game stuff, she was just as happy as the players and gave them a whole SONG, it was amazing
And I thought seraphine stans were bad, until I saw the syndras and the massive army looming in the distance
At least some of them realised the ocean song hair situation was stupid and now that Crystal rose Sera exists in WR they changed to being chill and asking politely to maybe port it over to PC
Its like that monty python lancelot skit of him running to you but you don't worry about it until it hits you right in the face.
Oh you think Syndra mains are bad. Their actions has encouraged an even bigger evil to arise, the Gwen mains
@@P.H691 Hey I actually understand where the Gwen mains are coming from, she has more skins in other games than she does in the main one, exclusive skins are a dumb and manipulative practice used to get player to try and spend on Riot's other games so let's not pretend they are a good thing or that this isn't Riot's fault to begin with, they're a giant company that wants your money and doesn't care about you so let's stop pretending they're our friend.
wait for the Xayah and Gwen stans bestie
I'm not mad at more melee champs finally joining Camille in the coven, I am however disappointed at how unimaginative Akali and Elise were. Akali as a witch that casts darkness and flays her enemies, working in the animal skull themes to maybe wear a beak in place of her ninja mask or something could have been really stunning and genuinely dark and fashionable, but unsurprisingly they just picked the most polished and bland concept. And Elise is frankly giving paintbrush spider, it's an exceptionally basic design and I would've personally really liked to see the spider give Old God vibes like Warwick did, being made of leaves, metal, and rock, but given that she already has 2 'flower spider' skins I suppose they wanted to step away from the Elderwood core thematic, which begs the question - why even pick her?
In Riot's words: M O N E Y
We got lux in soul fighters and akali in coven. What on earth happened.
@@Guille2033elise? Selling skins? Nah... someone just noticed she went a while without a skin and shoehorned her in
elise was just the champion that the magic wheel of who gets the skin landed on
Elise is literally perfect for a femme fatale high fashion witch skinline let's not lie they just didn't have good execution for her
Old God Mord might not distinguish itself very well from his other skins, but it still looks fucking amazing
Morde skins never miss tbh they are all at minimum a solid 7/10
It’s fucking trash and y’all only hype it up cause it’s him. Syndra>
For real, I thought it was absolutely amazing
I think it looks like the Morde pre VGU
@@KagamineRinVocaloidwhat i always wanted
I thought i gonna see xayah and rakan in this skinline.
Xayah being coven
Rakan being old god
Being different but still love each other.
HOLY MOLY YESSS
Xayah and Rakan already have broken covenant, and elderwood skins, which are both from the same alternate universe that coven is from, not to say they couldn't get the skins you suggested, it's just unlikely
How hard was it for Riot to make a bark-skinned leafy Old God Mordekaiser instead of another metal-plated Mordekaiser... That would've been awesome. Oh yeah, Nami's is the best hands down.
it's bone skin
@@chakradarrat8832It really doesn't try very hard to look like bone.
Yeahh i think could've made efforts to make his color pallette and texture more reminiscent of Voli or Warwick's boney texture armor. He looks great but its justt missing something that connects him more to the rest of the old gods
@@chakradarrat8832 they probably should've looked into paleontology cuz that does not look like a bone at all 😭
It looks like bones and teeth. Wood doesn’t fit for Mordekaiser and he’d look like elderwood.
If they reversed the roles of coven akali and street demon briar, that would have made for two awesome skins that made more sense in both cases
Ooooh coven bruar could be really interesting
With all this drama I completely missed that Akali snuck her way into this skinline- what's more her prestige looks like a Battle Academia prestige 💀
Proud of all the seraphine mains that have undergone character development
Im not, i want that entire champion and fan base to be redesigned in fire
Ehhhh.....Not really
@@obsidianfuryarg they’re asking for her crystal rose skin to come to pc but yet again they’re not sending death threats
@@TheDripalorian yeah, at least that's an improvement
@@obsidianfuryarg they’re asking nicely so it is a massive improvement
The sad part is that Riot listened to the Syndra fans but the Xayah and Rakan fans are just asking to please get skins with effort put into them for a fan favorite theme and Riot is ignoring it. Makes it obvious Riot only listens to threats cause it takes anything less than that as “who cares theyll buy it anyways”
Xayah and Rakan fans ask nicely, and Riot only listens to the crazy people while asking people to not act like crazy people. Never sell your soul to league of legends enough to be a main of anyone
How about the so called Samira Ultimate that really looks like a legendary
The thing about that that's bothering me the most is those skins are on a time limit now, they're gonna be Mythic vaulted at the end of the year so there's no voting with your wallet, you either get it or don't.
Dude, the rioter handling the syndra damage control on twitter said that it wasn't entirely the harassment that made them delay the skin but because they needed to "do better" but if that is the case why didn't they have the same energy for all the other skins that had a ton of feedback like taliyah's
X/R's, SF samira etc. Hell, Yorick mains only wanted a hat but you'll get a lot of excuses.
A modder already accomplished that 2 years ago.
I don't condone harassment but if the syndra mains didnt make a fuss they would've shipped that skin without a care in the world, they just wanted to "do better" he says lol.
@@AdMerIinthey listen to whatever they think will make them the most money. Syndra mains have high expectations for coven so Riot thinks they’ll lose money if they don’t listen. Meanwhile xayah and Rakan are star guardian skins, as well as xayah/rakan matching skins so people will buy them anyway and they won’t lose much money.
Akali getting a coven skin makes perfect sense, you see she is a ninja. Ninja's are great at infiltrating and sneaking into places they don't belong.
cringe
As an Akali main I apporove of this justification! XD I actually caught myself saying she "ninja'd" her way into many skinlines she really didn't belong.
She used her W to sneak in😂
@@CuckooCocoa she e'd onto a passing witch
I am a very happy Nami main. I have been wanting a Legendary for years, but I never posted about it on any forums, nor did I scream and yell at riot about it. I was just waiting patiently and hoping for the best. I wouldn't have minded if Syndra got the Legendary either.
Faster than Lightning McQueen
Finally a controversy free skin line
Ha ha ha......
Yeah....
I feel like Nami's voice works for half her lines, like she feels like a young overconfident "hmm yes i'm so powerful and cool and pretty i'm the best and now i'm gonna kill you" even if the other half of the lines are a bit...
I got the skin and I think it sounds a lot more believable in-game than just the ripped voice lines tbh, and the voice lines were my only real issue with the skin at first. I’d say many of them are too long though
3:30 ahri had the same too, she became coven witch from an elderwood something
Same as LB and Elise, at least, is what i think, all they have another Skin in the Eclipse Universe
Xayah and Rakan receiving the Post-credit scenes in all the last videos about this topic, is just so funny ngl.
As a Xayah main, i had a laugh but sad at the same time :( :)
Nicky, you are so brave by stating that neither Syndra or Nami, deserved the legendary.
Can't wait to see the reaction in Twitter.
Also, yeah, must be nice, getting a legendary or any other tier of skin for your champ, after 8 years.
(Kindred copium)
Syndra and Nami are 13/12 years old champions.
Everything changed when the Syndra mains attacked
Yea lets ignore Seraphine, Kayle, Yorick, Evelynn who's even worse.
Syndra and nami mains: figthing to see who gets the legendary skin and whining a lot
Me: disapointed that old god fiddlesticks is still not a real thing
If gonna be an old god, I hope is like "a fragment of the sun that Kayle didn't eat" or stuff, cuz Fiddlesticks deserves glory.
The reason I was a little sad about Syndra not getting the Legendary is that she literally looks like the Scarlet Witch in the splash art
I would like a cute floating nickyboi head accompanied with a dissapearing thumbs up rat to reassure me about every hard decision I have to make in my life.
the worst thing about this is riot listening after being threatened whereas all those civil complains about other skins are just being left on read.
you're right, they are just encouraging this behaviour.
"You're right" yea few toxic minority represents a whole playerbase so let's ignore the actually feedback and criticism 🤦
@@scarletwarlock9325 i feel you are forgetting the point susvik make. they are saying that riot IS listening to the loud, dumb minority instead of the calmer rational majority, which in turn teaches the fanbase that being loud and dumb will get them what they want
As a Rell main, you didn’t see all three of us start throwing death threats at rioters when Rell ended up in SG instead of high noon, which was the skinline put out RIGHT BEFORE SG. Sometimes you get what you get and you don't through a fit.
Well yeah how are you guys gonna make a protest when there's only three of you 😭
Street demons akali woulda been cool. Her dashes leave paint trails on the ground… but that steps on K/DA Akali’s toes with how similar they would be
After a certain point i feel like it falls on Riot. Like no obviously no one deserves death threats. But if Taliyah, Yorick, and Ornn player's asking nicely gives them nothing but a middle finger and 5 minute adjustments while sending death threats gives seraphine and friends whole new skins.... well at that point they're just encouraging it.
Also voting with your wallet only works on hyier popular champs. I bet Ornn ain't getting another skin for years lol
It literally happened with Pentakill Lost Chapter Yorick's hat. People asked them to either keep it or just make it into a toggle, since Yorick wears it in his recall, and Riot essentially said "No, lmaoooo"
@@promethiadathats... what he said
@@nu_kercat1 im aware, i left this for people who dont know about it
@@danielbarnes1241 We were almost part of the Three Year Club twice in a row since launch. We're prepared for our options to be base, Thunder God, Elderwood (goat skin), and Space Groove until the bombs drop tbh.
I actually like the idea of the Syndra ords, live ravens or crows morphed into balls or energy is some kinda body horror goodness.
Sometimes I fantazise about a Syndra main coming home drunk and beating me until I feel numb. Kicking me in the ribs until I can hardly breathe, only to start apologizing, holding me gently all night until I fall asleep crying in their arms
Wtf…
POV: The edible is out of control
Kids this is why you shouldn't take drugs
My favorite part about this controversy.
Whenever we bring up the harassment and how it's never ok to send death threats there's a small community that have a need to insert themselves and relentlessly defend themselves saying that they're were genuinely sharing there criticisms and that the death threats meant nothing but a small minority.
Even though it takes less than 5 seconds to understand that if anyone wasnt harrassing and just sharing their thoughts and criticisms respectful aren't the ones we are talking about it and just because you weren't involve in the problem doesnt nullify the general issues and it doesnt detract acutall meaningful criticisms.
Like i know it sounds pedantic when reading this but it drives me nuts Whenever we just trying to address horrible actions like harassment there always someone going:
WeLl I dIdN't Do AnYtHINg WrOnG sO tHeRe Is No CoNtRoVeRsY tHeReFoRe tHeRe Is No HaRaSsMeNt OnLiNe
cry about it
@Bez1lob already proving my point, cool👍
4:48 this is what happens when you do lack of research.
The Coven designer Riot Stellari said Syndra was the inspiration for whole Coven skinline and she was saving her for legendary in future but she left Riot due to mistreatment. Syndra as Scarlet Witch as legendary was the whole point.
Both true damage and K/DA already mimic the effects of street demons without the lore. It would be redundant to make a third street thug skin of Akali that looks and feels the exact same way. Her coven skin does not dip deeper into the dark nitty gritty of the coven lore and barely scratches it in appearance. Meanwhile the prestige makes her look like she's from the battle academy universe with the bright colors on the jacket and her hair.
On the topic of champions with two skins in the same universe, the coven universe has it very very bad. They've shoved omen of the dark, elderwood, death blossom, coven, old god and eclipse (i might be forgetting even more) into the same universe, and champions like ahri, leblanc, elise, kayle, nocturne, etc. all have multiple skins in this universe by now. This one universe makes up roughly 4% of all of the skins in league, iirc
heh I think it fits tbqh, the only odd one out would be death blossom.
It's basically an epic tale of witch hunt and all of it being kept in the book Spectral Fiddle is keeping.
I was planning on going to sleep but Nicky decided to drop a vid.
I'll just wait another year for old god Chogath
we need his vgu first
Isn't making a purple lovecraftian monster skin out of a purple lovecraftian monster champ a little redundant?
@@OakenTomeredundant doesn't have to be bad if it's done well.
@@OakenTomeeclipse leona? The sun themed knight turned into a sun themed knight😂
I mean, they waisted the possibility of making a legendary coven syndra, the potential she had, omg
once again nicky, another wonderful rapid-fire skin
On the whole fiasko with the conven syndes situations. Id like to tell that i as a ahri main when pool party first was teased along with jinx so was pool party ahri. So many fan consepts but riot has never gone threw feels more like the synda situation was Them gas lighting Them selfs
I didn't bought a skin day one in years but this Nami skin was worth the money ✨
if I knew we could've bullied riot like the syndra mains have I would've gotten soul fighter nilah in game by myself
Btw Riot changed Prestige Ocean song Seraphine hair 3 times due to harassment.
The fact that Syndra mains fucking gaslighted themselves into thinking that they are owed a legendary skin is fucking hilarious.
Old god is actually my new favorite mordekaiser skin simply because of that charming smile
Imagine the biggest criticism that you can give a banger skin, is that the champ got better ones already. Valid, but just shows how insane the quality standards are by now
Me, a Nami main who lives under a rock and had no idea any of this was going on: "Y'all did what now?"
I am so glad I didn’t know about this skin line until this video. How the fuck are people having wars over skins when there’s two actual wars going on? There are more important things than Syndra’s fucking thighs or Nani’s fucking… fish guts.
Anyways thanks for the video :)
This is the third video I edited back to back in a week
The things I do for love
I have been waiting for this... heheheh! Another great rapid fire skin review!
Through a lot of discussion, I have found something VERY funny. Akali and Briar… should have swapped skins. If they need to fill the Akali Quota, put her in street demons, make them more splotchy and messy with the paints and the skinline would have sold like hot cakes. Briar in Coven as a Witch or a ghoul created to harvest energy? It was written in the stars!
I can hear Coven Yuumi from Coven Nami and I cant stop imagining it
Even tho i (and arguably the 90% of Akali players as well) dind't think of Akali as a fitting champ for a Coven skinline, it's the same argument but reverse as the Syndra fits into it and deserves a legendary in the thematic... and you said to it something like "Syndra doesn't deserve a legendary only because you think she fits in it" ?
Main point of Coven is too elevate champ base personality thats why Morg and Eve got legendary but its suddenly a problem if its Syndra?
I'm SO pleased by this Nami skin, the splash art is awesome the voice lines are fire, sfx and vfx are fucking amazing, AND THE SQUIDWARD DANCE
unrelated but i had to point out the editing on this video is immaculate
anyways when kayle got a shitty epic skin instead of a legendary for solar eclipse you didn’t see kayle mains sending death threats to riot
As a syndra main and a nami main I’m super happy about the nami skin, I don’t keep up with league news or anything so it was an awesome surprise! Of course I’m still waiting for a syndra legendary skin but til then I’ll be using star guardian, tho ngl most her skins are kinda basic oops
same, considering how many skins syndra has she doesn't really have any bangers
Coven Morgana is still my all time favorite. I don't even play anymore. I just enjoy her aesthetic more than others in the skin line.
7:30
OH GOD are we getting a male equivalent to KDA???
What rock have you been living under
@@ZamrayzRayzoray Top Main, I live on an Island
I can now no longer look at the syndra balls without seeing ornn heads now thanks.
Also riot is actually redesigning Syndras skin now. Turns out all Yorick enjoyers had to do was send Devs death threats. Amazing precedent there rito
They changing due to feedbacks. They did the same to Prestige Ocean song Sera and firelight Ekko
NickyBoi: Akali what are you doing here?
Akali: I'm here to commit robbery in broad daylight.
Honestly, I loved Nami Coven, but what I want is an Elderwood or Old God Legendary, both are still part of the Eclipse universe, it's sad to see only the Knights and Covens winning, but I'm happy if they still at least continue to win something like Karthus and Wukong this year.
Although in the end they will end up making Lux or Sera the Legendary of Elderwood...
Having played with coven nami, that skin makes me feel power I haven’t felt before. I was running down adcs
It could of been so cool if belveth wasn’t forced into cosmic and could of been namis god the “Leviathan”
The Akali one is such a mess... But I can sort of see the idea of a vampire coven witch skin totally working for her, if her dashs changed her to look like a shadowy vampire demon flying at you, and her shurkins and kunai were replaced with magic bolts.. and they atleast gave her a voice fliter to make her sound more eerie.
There's a skinline for Vampire Coven Witches.... it's called Broken Covenant
@@taelynjessica435 I mean, good point that also would ahve worked better, but my point is more that they could ahve made this skin work if they actually put the effort into doing it properly. But it's like they didn't even try.
didn’t we miss a skinline?? where is the rapid skin review for the La Illusions??
Loving the Mystic Mansion playing in the background
Great video; but on the controversy topic. The MAIN issue i see (or notice imo) is that riot JUST responds to harassment (IM NOT IN FAVOR); but today vandril uploaded 2 champ breaking bugs that were on PBE and mentioned, yet they didnt care, but something like this, there are posts on posts from tons of rioters. At the start of the year they wanted more clarity, and i feel that went down a drain again. People just see what works and lizard brain it when OBVIOUSLY its not the way to do anything
I think Syndra would have worked better honestly. I guess the one thing holding it back is she looks fairly close to her normal coloring
Harassing devs is a problem, but so is the fact it takes harassing devs to get anything done at all, if a big stink isn't raised about something then Riot will just ignore it, we see the same thing with other huge companies like RUclips or Activision Blizzard, giant companies only react to negative stimuli and that's a fact.
Ignoring the completely crazy Syndra mains acting like anyone DESERVES A COSMETIC, I get the critic that Syndra really fit the skinline perfectly. Riot just... doesnt care. They showed again and again that they rather do repetitive products for the sake of doing it regardless if they fit the universe or not. In this very SAME skinline you have damn COVEN AKALI, with TWO skins, NEITHER who look like Coven.
Its more about a complain about Riot in general instead of about this skinline
Coven Akali fits the general aesthetic of the Coven skin-line, but I do agree that the Prestige version (which should be inspired by and loosely linked to the skin-line) is not remotely Coven in the slightest. It feels more like a Crime City Nightmare or Broken Covenant prestige than a Coven one.
@@Slenderneer I really disagree with her fitting the aesthethic, cause I only see the hair being similar
Syndra is 12 year old champ. She deserves a legendary.
Feel bad for syndra mains but nami mains have always been some of the the sweetest most passive of the playerbase and the former totally blew this out of proportion xd
Coming from a nami/sera main who is proud of rito for Nami’s new skin but won’t be buying it, and is indeed, salty about Gwen and sera wr exclusives
You are clearly being delusional if you think Nami mains are sweetest and most passive LMAO. The whole fight between Nami and Syndra started because Nami mains going into Syndra mains sub just to harass and trash talk about Syndra and the players. It got to the point even Nami mains mod had to apologise to Syndra mains lmao.
@@scarletwarlock9325 I never heard abt this lmao not even in syndramains sub mentioned any nami Reddit users trashing on them?? Either way I was talking abt the playerbase as a whole, not the minority on Reddit. I know I am biased, but saying I’m delusional when you’re putting words in my mouth is ironic.
that sonic heroes ost is just chef's kiss
The la illusion skins were pretty good. You should review them
Love the sonic heroes hang castle background music 👌
My faves are definitely Nilah and Nami
Nilah's crimson robes, whip and effects look so cool and they contrast well with her white hair
And Nami because shes fuckin Ursula and thats cool!
Nami main here - this was a wild rollercoaster of emotions. From shock and wishing the leak was wrong, to maximum hype to see lots of passion put into the skin, as well as the Sea Witch nods and the *freaking Leviathan*. Wanted a dragon skinline (Dragonmancer is LoR-only so far 🙃) or Shan Hai Scrolls for her first legendary, but Coven surprised me in a very good way!
Can't negate that all the chaos soured the hype though... Syndra could've been an amazing Coven legendary too.
oh hi Nami guy
Am i the only one that i everytime i throw ult and hits an enemy i hear the gulp gulp gulp gulp meme ?
Or gogogoggo something like that
Something i want to see in a future coven return is either coven Aurelion sol or coven rek’sai as the leviathan that Nami worships. Personally i think it would be really cool
I can imagine Mordekaiser doing the equivalent of a highschool girl giggle after Nami gives him an order
Sonic heroes's musics in the back ground. So good. ❤
During the video I just noticed how cool Mordekaiser's weapon looks in the skin :O
Lets pray this place will stay safe
Ngl the thing that made me the happier from this coven returns was the Bel’veth teaser
The Cassiopeia fanart at the very end is hot, no objections possible.
-,.;~]´[-Gris ;;; xoxo --2023
Calling nilah a universally good champion is a weird take lmao. shes literally a slave to a god, not permitted to even feel her own emotions anymore and being incapable of rejecting its demands
I love the Nami skin! Honestly I think it’s great. A Syndra legendary would just be evil witch Syndra. With Nami it allows for an Ursula type siren witch of the seas
I totally agree with you
Yall delusional. Coven Nami didnt bring anything new to the table. This "ursala siren thingy" she can get the same theme from crime city nightmare or Nightbringer while Coven Syndra got anticipated due to Scarlet Witch especially after Multiverse of Madness. Syndra would bring so much to Coven lore as an prophesied Witch that against both Coven and Knights while Nami is just another witch.
@@scarletwarlock9325 liking ur own comment is lame
Evelynn's Coven legendary is heavily similar to her base and it still ended up being amazing. I think legendaries can reevaluate and expand some traits a character already has there's nothing wrong with choosing safer and obvious options, if anything we need that because Riot has been doing questionable shit lately.
Ever since Necrit referenced Rell in his video covering the Coven situation I would've loved to see Rell in Coven with a scary bone horse. It would make sense too given her lance making her look like a knight and would connect her to Morde's creepy walking bone armor he's got going on. I imagine Morde would be her patron god in that universe.
Necrit carrying the rell community
Coven Prestige Akali is straight up a battle Academia skin.
for some reason mordekaiser slapping away the poro sounded like skooch in jeopardy
While I agree the Syndra legendary was never promised and people weren't entitled to it, Riot was very aware of the expectations people had.
And I think the reasons they're so mad are: 1, the epic skin is bad even when compared to other epics, and 2, the epic skin means the legendary will never, ever happen. They'd be less angry if she hadn't gotten. A skin at all and they could still dream of the legendary one day.
And while the behavior of some Syndra mains was deplorable and cannot be excused, we also need to acknowledge that for while Riot's MO has been to keep silent and leave the developers to be the ones bracing the reaction from the community, and that's deplorable too.
In general, I think there were so many things that could've been done to avoid this whole thing, ND when the two weeks are up and the skin barely changes things will get even worse.
Exactly like i was upset that she didn’t a legendary oh well maybe she will for an upcoming new skin line, I’ll just take the epic but when you look at the epic it’s completely lackluster. Barely any effects on ult or passive, if her old god is morde then where is the symbolism. They added weird orbs that look like dirty poros and called it a day. For the amount of anticipation for a legendary I was expecting this to at least be the best epic in this batch not the worst…
We Pyke mains have been eating mad good for a long time so my perspective might be a bit skewed but damn! Even though we arguably got too much attention, the war between these goobers has kinda just made me glad we haven't had to suffer the same fate.
The coven skinline has never been too big a thing for me so I'm relatively indifferent to these buuut Mordekaiser is really fucking cool.
WHERE IS MY FUCKIN CYBERPUNK APHELIOS SKIN 👺
I love this skinline so much, so seeing this dumb controversy (with Syndra, one of my favorite champs to play and design wise) hurts me. Like, yeah, she would've been cool as a legendary, but, well, wasn't meant to be.
And yeah, most of my favorite champs in the top 3 don't have legendaries (Pantheon, Warwick, Quinn, Syndra and Aurelion Sol, the only one that has is Ahri). But that means that I'll just have to wait a bit more and usually that pays off (except if you are a Samira main)
In my personal opinion, Nami’s voice being so cute actually adds to the character, she tries to be this intimidating and imposing witch, but she’s trying too hard and that’s fun
As an Akali user I’m particularly pissed that she got the prestige, if they have given the prestige to Syndra the drama would have been reduced (which b4 you say she already has star guardian, Akali has KDA )
True also giving Syndra a lore update or ASU would have made this 0 drama but Riot refuses and "Syndra is a very powerful character so we not gonna update her unless she supports a big event like Ruination" so our hope to get new voicelines and animations is only through legendary 😢
Dont harass the developers... harass *THE COMPANY* It is morally right and sometimes work (just look at Unity CEO getting kicked out)
Morgana is my favorite coven skin along with Eve, and Mordekaiser. I won’t use any chromas as base fits the theme best. . Nami looks good and while I feel Syndra should have gotten the legendary, Nami benefits more (an epic coven Nami’s voice and mermaid model would not have fit the theme).