Here's a link to Zach's Dune player aids for those of you who were asking for it - boardgamegeek.com/filepage/269814/single-sheet-player-aids-each-faction
This is the first video I have seen on your channel. You two are great blokes. You both seem so genuine and would love to play games with you guys. Best of luck!
Your rating scale is a work of genius! I HAD to subscribe after this. I agree: a game that I would play again always gets at least a 5. I tend to give high ratings (9+) to the games (300+) I really like. Most of the games I don't like, I won't play them ever again, so I give them a rating below 3. Any game between 3 and 6, I have to like you very much to comply and play - there are at least 300 other games I'd rather play!
Bastard Tower had me in stitches! Love the banter between you two. Also, I'd love to see a list of 1's from y'all and the analysis of why (besides Night Cage, we know why), I don't think I've ever seen that from a content creator.
Dune Imperium is easily our most played board game of the year. Everyone we teach it to is asking us to play again & again. It just offers so much, and the constant tension it brings to the table is so enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing your list. That was fun. Dune Imperium and Everdell are in my top 5 too. I have both Dune Imperium expansions, and I upgraded to the Complete Collection when I started thinking about getting expansions for Everdell. Also, I've only played Star Wars Rebellion once so far, which was like 6 months ago, and it was a super fun, very thematic, and epic experience. I recently ordered my own copy that will be here soon. Oh, and Nemesis is owned by a friend, and we play that like once a season. Pretty much always a good time, but yeah, it can miss.
The Everdell complete collection is great, but don't expect to bring it anywhere unless you're driving. It is possible to use an old empty box and just bring what you need sometimes, but that's kinda defeating the purpose of the big box.
Where can I get these rules for Dune? I have the galeforce 9 edition and would be interested in a list of player aids and anything else that can make this great game even deeper and richer. Thank you!
i made a player aid for each faction that listed each phase of the game from 1-9 and had a description of what happens in that phase. lots of board games have a handout for game phases, no idea why dune didnt have one. then i added the faction specific rules for each phase on each faction's handout and underlined it so players could tell what parts of which phase were their special faction ability. so for example every hand out explained how the bidding phase worked, but the Atreides handout also explained how that phase was different and that text was underlined. it made teaching the game easier, on the first play with new players, instead of teaching the game and then teaching how every faction breaks all the rules before we started. We just started at phase 1 and did what the handout said and if anyone had underlined text, they read it out and did a diffrent thing. by the end of the first round everyone had learned the phases and all the special rules for their faction. teaching it that way meant that we were alot less likely to have a round 1-2 victory, which is possible in DUNE, just becuase players didnt have a full picture of the game until the end of that first round but it made a potentially nightmarish first time teach kinda effortless. i also had a handout with a list of all the card in the decks with short bullet point explanations of what they do. I think veteran players would perfer not to have that handout, but a big part of the game is trying to figure out what cards are in players hands and what may or may not be up for auction. that is a whole part of the game new players cant interact with if they dont have a card list. it also meant that when a player on the other side of the table played a card everyone could peak at the handout and understand what that card did without everyone asking what was happening of passing around the card. as for the "house rules" we used it was nothing huge, but honestly i dont remember all the changes becuase now that just teh way we play in my brain. here is an example: at the start of the game each player is dealt 4 traitor cards and chooses 1 to keep. in the gale force 9 rules everyone discards the 3 un-chosen traitor cards. Instead everyone kept those three unchosen cards and tucked them away. that way players could remind themselves of what those cards were, or sell eachother info like: "give me 2 spice and i will show which leaders of yours i know are safe". this just helped new players keep track of all the info the game throws at them and let people sell or share info without leaving the table to whisper or whatever, they could just pass a card and look at it. Stuff like that, a handful of changes to just make the game approachable. i would share a google doc link to my handouts but i cant post links in chat or it will be deleted. i posted it in the room and board discord if your their. chris may pop it in the info box for this vid if he sees it.
Excellent list! I have an upcoming game of dune I'm hosting and would love to see the player aids that you have. Also, are you using the optional + advanced rules or the old classic rules? You said you played the one the internet said to play but I've heard the classic's 15 turns and some other clunkiness is not optimal. I'd love to hear your thoughts though, thanks!
i cant post links in the comments or they get deleted, otherwise i would shoot you a google doc link to my handouts. I mostly use the gale force 9 rules for the advanced game with a couple tweeks. I dont know exactly what all the tweeks are, thats just how i learned the game at this point. someone else in the comments asked about it and i posted a big response so i will point you up there
Zach's scale is great but I suggest having an even numbered scale to avoid fence sitting. It makes you put that middle pile in to "I like" or "I don't like". So how about: 1, 4, 7 & 10?
I love this list. It's honest and real and not the standard from the top 100 bgg ----- even though those are all bad games. I'm kidding. I have played a few, and some I need to try. Fun video, gents.
I do like the rating scale, though I agree it needs to have a bit more resolution, maybe a 4 point scale would work... but no game is perfect, so I NEVER give a game a '4!' Certainly some crossovers with games I love (Abomination and Everdell), but I tend to not enjoy negative interaction. So, I fear the 'take that' cards in Abomination (they don't seem to get played frequently, but they can ruin an entire round I feel) and the Fool card in Everdell! I do play the Prometheus variant in Abomination, never played the base rules. Thanks for the video!
ya, i use the 1-5-10 scale to decide what games i buy or to make choosing what to play on a game night easy for myself. If i was trying to use the scale to recommend things to other people or rank large quantities of games at once i agree i would want some more granularity.
@@zacharygroombridge6511 yeah, for sure! I guess my attempted joke felI a bit flat. I do think for me I might do a 4 point scale. A 1 would be the same as yours, my 2 would be I'll play the game because my friends love it and I love gaming with them. My 3 would be your 5 and my 4 would be your 10. Maybe a 5... games that I will take advantage of my special day privileges (birthday, fathers day) to actively make my family play. 😁 Further granularity might be meaningless for me because it really depends what i feel like at the time. The distinction on ratings to decide what you'd buy is useful. I presume you'd happily buy a 10, might buy a 5 if it was cheap and a 1 you'd get rid of as quick as humanly possible.
@@RoomandBoardReviews I suppose you're saying that because maybe the generally accepted scale is 1 to 10. But I just have three levels: yes, meh and no. Which would be one two and three.
if i can convince everyone in the world to use my scale, we can review everything everywhere and fix every review site on the planet! everything on rotten tomatoes or board game geek is ranked between 7 and 8? well! my 1-5-10 army will decend and stretch that range out to fill the whole 1-10 scale! but also, i just think its fun.
You should have put all Zach's names for the games in the timestamps on the video. It would have funny to click through and try to figure what game it is but overall nice list. Altered Fate at two players and he loves it, i would really like to hear how he likes it at higher play counts especially on teams. I had to edit this post to now see BASTARD TOWER is actually Il Magnifico oh wow lol. Editing again I must say I from now on will teach lorenzo with the bastard analogy, its akin to the bastard cousin in istanbul.
Zach- before you play your physical copy of Rebellion, go get the expansion. Trust me. Makes a great game even better and combat is so much more satisfying.
what kind of a hack do you take me for? of course i got the expansion! and i have played my real life copy bunch since we filmed this vid. its very fun, though i must admit that i shuffled the expansion deck into the main deck even tho the rules told me to use one or the other. so maybe i did it wrong? but i dont care, mixing it all together has made for some really fun games
@@ImaginEric rebels are the most fun for me. its just really fun knowing everything and watching the imperial squirm, losing as the rebels is also so climactic and fun, planet go boom. losing as the imperial is a bit of a wimper, the track reaches the end and the game just ends, its still fun to play imperials i just think the highs and lows are better as rebels
I love this rating scale. For myself, I would add a 3, to represent " I'll play just to spend time with you guys, but I would personally never choose this one". And then 1 would be "You guys go ahead. I'll be washing the dishes."
Yeah, 3s for me are also “cuz the kids like it and it has one thing that’s arguably helpful about it”. 5s are those games that when they’re suggested or looked at, the players are all silent or collectively sigh. 8s are the games that eventually beat the 5s in the above scenario when someone sees it. Also they’re the games that are almost perfect every time like when Nemesis (or other game) needs the right group. Or when there is just one tweak the fan would like seen changed.
no i am not. i was tempted by the IP in the kickstarter but i am not sure about the game itself. i may change my mind after i get to play someone elses copy or hear what the word on the street is after it reaches retail. i really want to want it, but what i saw on kickstarter was not enough for me to buy in. when it comes to big 2 player games, like that lord of the rings game or war for arrakis i feel like you need one freind to really get stuck in and play it a bunch to really get at the juicy center of them. i dont know if i have that second person to get stuck in with atm. (and when i find that person they may have a copy of war for arrakis already lol)
Fair enough. I'm sort of in the same boat, really hoping it will turn out great and only end up being an hour and a half to two like they say. The latest updates have it looking like a beautiful game and they tweaked some rules since the kickstarter, hopefully that is enough. It does have a solo mode which ultimately is why I decided to go for it. If my wife doesn't like it so much I can always play with myself 😅 I haven't played rebellion, it's sort of on my bucket list but that one for me seems the least likely to find someone willing to spend the full time for it. Have played war of the ring a couple times and really enjoyed that (except the random bag draws at the end of the game...)
Also your recent how to paint video was so good (makes me want to try it, i mean, if Chris can do it, so can I...) that if war for arrakis is a dud, I have at least supplied myself with ample minis to start/practice painting on and wont worry about messing them up lol.
i know that there is a game by the same designer that re-impliments alot of the mechanics and people are saying it is as good/better, don't know the name. I have not played that yet. If you mean the dune imperium expansions i havn't played those either. i want to play the expansions, but its chris's game so i gotta wait till he gets em.
Haha I say them verbally! I thought Aeons end would be number 1, but I was wrong. I think I guessed aeons end, dune, nemesis, galactic era and then I knew abomination would be 10-6.
My collection is full of 8.5s. the games that aren't exactly feature wall - always wanna grab - ready to play for any group, but also appeal to me enough constantly to never actually let them go. Examples? Mice and mystics, Fort, Dwellings of Eldervale (which i freaking love and almost always win at, but is a chore to get tabled), Death May Die, Roll Player Adventures...
Everdell was very off putting for me personally. I got it to play because I was fooled into thinking it was a family game. It is not a family game. It is a game for grown die hard board gamers to crush complex point scores with card combos. The experience was literally the exact opposite of what I was expecting or wanting. Then I felt the incredibly beautiful family friendly art was wasted on such a deep and mature game. It would take a long time to master, and I would get very tired of the childish theme long before that would ever happen. I respect the game, but never want to paly it again. I sold my all in Everdell Collection withing a week of receiving it.
Everdell didn't work for me either. The worker placement spots are perhaps the most dull I've ever encountered, whereas the engine building with the cards was too deep by comparison. In general I found it very dependent on drawing the right cards (making card draw very powerful). It also has a pacing problem: some players can finish half an hour before others!! That's an unforgivable fault in my opinion; especially since Euro game design initially was intended to solve that problem by not having player elimination.
My rating scale is similar, and for the same reason. If someone asks what you rate a game and your system is so granular you have to reference your BGG profile before answering, then the granularity is meaningless. I have a four point system, on BGG it uses 1, 8, 9, and 10. 1 = HELL NO 8 = I'll play it if the group insists, but I won't request it and would prefer to play something else 9 = HELL YES 10 is a rarely-used, special category reserved for games that hold a place in my heart beyond mere game play (generally nostalgia or other emotional connection, or the depth of the experience created while playing it). It's purely subjective and indescribable but I know them when I experience them. Eights and nines may move up and down as I play them, but 10's will probably always be 10's even if I never play them again.
Yeah, it definitely really shines with a large group who are committed to that length of time. Definitely hard to get to the table, but when it happens whoo baby does it shine.
My prediction before starting. Wrong, wrong, are you kidding me, really you picked that over #9, what planet are you from, of course fan boy, wrong, wrong, idiot, yes Blood Rage is the best game. Let's begin!
Chris, I’d try to be careful with the use of “I’ll be honest” or other popular versions like “Honestly” and “Truth be told” cuz it implies one lies all the other times.
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Here's a link to Zach's Dune player aids for those of you who were asking for it - boardgamegeek.com/filepage/269814/single-sheet-player-aids-each-faction
I love the 1-5-10 ranking method!!
Thanks for sharing your passion and favourites 🤙🤙
This is the first video I have seen on your channel. You two are great blokes. You both seem so genuine and would love to play games with you guys. Best of luck!
"Never say no to a 5."
Simple, elegant words to live by.
Your rating scale is a work of genius! I HAD to subscribe after this.
I agree: a game that I would play again always gets at least a 5. I tend to give high ratings (9+) to the games (300+) I really like. Most of the games I don't like, I won't play them ever again, so I give them a rating below 3. Any game between 3 and 6, I have to like you very much to comply and play - there are at least 300 other games I'd rather play!
Great show! You 2 have a nice, respectful, and funny synergy, making this video very enjoyable to watch.
Bastard Tower had me in stitches! Love the banter between you two. Also, I'd love to see a list of 1's from y'all and the analysis of why (besides Night Cage, we know why), I don't think I've ever seen that from a content creator.
Dune Imperium is easily our most played board game of the year. Everyone we teach it to is asking us to play again & again. It just offers so much, and the constant tension it brings to the table is so enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing your list. That was fun. Dune Imperium and Everdell are in my top 5 too. I have both Dune Imperium expansions, and I upgraded to the Complete Collection when I started thinking about getting expansions for Everdell. Also, I've only played Star Wars Rebellion once so far, which was like 6 months ago, and it was a super fun, very thematic, and epic experience. I recently ordered my own copy that will be here soon. Oh, and Nemesis is owned by a friend, and we play that like once a season. Pretty much always a good time, but yeah, it can miss.
Great list! You are a man of class Zach
That he is!
The Everdell complete collection is great, but don't expect to bring it anywhere unless you're driving. It is possible to use an old empty box and just bring what you need sometimes, but that's kinda defeating the purpose of the big box.
I love abomination! No one has ever mentioned it!
This is nice.
What a great list and great video with honest and super valid opinions. Zach you have my like. Let’s see Zach owning the channel now. 😂
Where can I get these rules for Dune? I have the galeforce 9 edition and would be interested in a list of player aids and anything else that can make this great game even deeper and richer. Thank you!
i made a player aid for each faction that listed each phase of the game from 1-9 and had a description of what happens in that phase. lots of board games have a handout for game phases, no idea why dune didnt have one. then i added the faction specific rules for each phase on each faction's handout and underlined it so players could tell what parts of which phase were their special faction ability. so for example every hand out explained how the bidding phase worked, but the Atreides handout also explained how that phase was different and that text was underlined.
it made teaching the game easier, on the first play with new players, instead of teaching the game and then teaching how every faction breaks all the rules before we started. We just started at phase 1 and did what the handout said and if anyone had underlined text, they read it out and did a diffrent thing. by the end of the first round everyone had learned the phases and all the special rules for their faction. teaching it that way meant that we were alot less likely to have a round 1-2 victory, which is possible in DUNE, just becuase players didnt have a full picture of the game until the end of that first round but it made a potentially nightmarish first time teach kinda effortless.
i also had a handout with a list of all the card in the decks with short bullet point explanations of what they do. I think veteran players would perfer not to have that handout, but a big part of the game is trying to figure out what cards are in players hands and what may or may not be up for auction. that is a whole part of the game new players cant interact with if they dont have a card list. it also meant that when a player on the other side of the table played a card everyone could peak at the handout and understand what that card did without everyone asking what was happening of passing around the card.
as for the "house rules" we used it was nothing huge, but honestly i dont remember all the changes becuase now that just teh way we play in my brain. here is an example: at the start of the game each player is dealt 4 traitor cards and chooses 1 to keep. in the gale force 9 rules everyone discards the 3 un-chosen traitor cards. Instead everyone kept those three unchosen cards and tucked them away. that way players could remind themselves of what those cards were, or sell eachother info like: "give me 2 spice and i will show which leaders of yours i know are safe". this just helped new players keep track of all the info the game throws at them and let people sell or share info without leaving the table to whisper or whatever, they could just pass a card and look at it. Stuff like that, a handful of changes to just make the game approachable.
i would share a google doc link to my handouts but i cant post links in chat or it will be deleted. i posted it in the room and board discord if your their. chris may pop it in the info box for this vid if he sees it.
Just uploaded it to BGG, I'll pin a link to the description when it's approved by BGG admin
@@zacharygroombridge6511 Thanks for the very informative response. I really appreciate it. Good gaming and great list 😁
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Thanks that would be really helpful. Loving the videos, keep up the good work! 😁
@@RoomandBoardReviewsawesome thanks!
Excellent list! I have an upcoming game of dune I'm hosting and would love to see the player aids that you have. Also, are you using the optional + advanced rules or the old classic rules? You said you played the one the internet said to play but I've heard the classic's 15 turns and some other clunkiness is not optimal. I'd love to hear your thoughts though, thanks!
i cant post links in the comments or they get deleted, otherwise i would shoot you a google doc link to my handouts. I mostly use the gale force 9 rules for the advanced game with a couple tweeks. I dont know exactly what all the tweeks are, thats just how i learned the game at this point. someone else in the comments asked about it and i posted a big response so i will point you up there
Just uploaded it to BGG for Zach, I'll put a link in the description when BGG admin approves it
Everdell, The Complete Collection, was the first big Kickstarter I ever backed.
Zach's scale is great but I suggest having an even numbered scale to avoid fence sitting. It makes you put that middle pile in to "I like" or "I don't like". So how about: 1, 4, 7 & 10?
Great taste Zach! I need you to teach me Rebellion 😂
I love this list. It's honest and real and not the standard from the top 100 bgg ----- even though those are all bad games. I'm kidding. I have played a few, and some I need to try. Fun video, gents.
Zach, preach it brother, I totally agree with your scoring philosophy. Decimals are dumb.
No cross over for Hotels. Come on Chris.
I'm a hack!!
5/7 the perfect score.
I do like the rating scale, though I agree it needs to have a bit more resolution, maybe a 4 point scale would work... but no game is perfect, so I NEVER give a game a '4!'
Certainly some crossovers with games I love (Abomination and Everdell), but I tend to not enjoy negative interaction. So, I fear the 'take that' cards in Abomination (they don't seem to get played frequently, but they can ruin an entire round I feel) and the Fool card in Everdell! I do play the Prometheus variant in Abomination, never played the base rules. Thanks for the video!
ya, i use the 1-5-10 scale to decide what games i buy or to make choosing what to play on a game night easy for myself. If i was trying to use the scale to recommend things to other people or rank large quantities of games at once i agree i would want some more granularity.
@@zacharygroombridge6511 yeah, for sure! I guess my attempted joke felI a bit flat. I do think for me I might do a 4 point scale. A 1 would be the same as yours, my 2 would be I'll play the game because my friends love it and I love gaming with them. My 3 would be your 5 and my 4 would be your 10. Maybe a 5... games that I will take advantage of my special day privileges (birthday, fathers day) to actively make my family play. 😁 Further granularity might be meaningless for me because it really depends what i feel like at the time.
The distinction on ratings to decide what you'd buy is useful. I presume you'd happily buy a 10, might buy a 5 if it was cheap and a 1 you'd get rid of as quick as humanly possible.
Ok. I like the scale
Please do a playthrough of Rebellion w/expansion, it is a long game but sooo worth it. 😀😀😀
First top ten I’ve ever seen where the list-provider doesn’t know the names of some of them 😂
Haha Zach barely knows my name half the time and we've known each other 14 years
Does he have the base Nemesis at 6 or does he mean the duo of Nemesis and Nemesis Lockdown?
I ranked them both into the same slot. I prefer lockdown personally but they are nearly the same game.
So....... Why not just use the numbers one two and three?
Because nobody wants to play a game rated a 3!
@@RoomandBoardReviews I suppose you're saying that because maybe the generally accepted scale is 1 to 10. But I just have three levels: yes, meh and no. Which would be one two and three.
if i can convince everyone in the world to use my scale, we can review everything everywhere and fix every review site on the planet! everything on rotten tomatoes or board game geek is ranked between 7 and 8? well! my 1-5-10 army will decend and stretch that range out to fill the whole 1-10 scale!
but also, i just think its fun.
You should have put all Zach's names for the games in the timestamps on the video. It would have funny to click through and try to figure what game it is but overall nice list. Altered Fate at two players and he loves it, i would really like to hear how he likes it at higher play counts especially on teams. I had to edit this post to now see BASTARD TOWER is actually Il Magnifico oh wow lol. Editing again I must say I from now on will teach lorenzo with the bastard analogy, its akin to the bastard cousin in istanbul.
Lol, honoring Nemesis with this video to make up for the #6 rank!
Zach- before you play your physical copy of Rebellion, go get the expansion. Trust me. Makes a great game even better and combat is so much more satisfying.
This - the expansion improves a lot of the combat complaints people had with the core game
what kind of a hack do you take me for? of course i got the expansion! and i have played my real life copy bunch since we filmed this vid. its very fun, though i must admit that i shuffled the expansion deck into the main deck even tho the rules told me to use one or the other. so maybe i did it wrong? but i dont care, mixing it all together has made for some really fun games
@@zacharygroombridge6511 Do you prefer playing as the Imperials or the rebels?
@@ImaginEric rebels are the most fun for me. its just really fun knowing everything and watching the imperial squirm, losing as the rebels is also so climactic and fun, planet go boom. losing as the imperial is a bit of a wimper, the track reaches the end and the game just ends, its still fun to play imperials i just think the highs and lows are better as rebels
I love this rating scale. For myself, I would add a 3, to represent " I'll play just to spend time with you guys, but I would personally never choose this one". And then 1 would be "You guys go ahead. I'll be washing the dishes."
Yeah, 3s for me are also “cuz the kids like it and it has one thing that’s arguably helpful about it”.
5s are those games that when they’re suggested or looked at, the players are all silent or collectively sigh.
8s are the games that eventually beat the 5s in the above scenario when someone sees it. Also they’re the games that are almost perfect every time like when Nemesis (or other game) needs the right group. Or when there is just one tweak the fan would like seen changed.
Zach, are you getting Dune: War for Arrakis?
no i am not. i was tempted by the IP in the kickstarter but i am not sure about the game itself. i may change my mind after i get to play someone elses copy or hear what the word on the street is after it reaches retail. i really want to want it, but what i saw on kickstarter was not enough for me to buy in.
when it comes to big 2 player games, like that lord of the rings game or war for arrakis i feel like you need one freind to really get stuck in and play it a bunch to really get at the juicy center of them. i dont know if i have that second person to get stuck in with atm. (and when i find that person they may have a copy of war for arrakis already lol)
I also feel Rebellion will scratch that 2 player long game itch
Fair enough. I'm sort of in the same boat, really hoping it will turn out great and only end up being an hour and a half to two like they say. The latest updates have it looking like a beautiful game and they tweaked some rules since the kickstarter, hopefully that is enough. It does have a solo mode which ultimately is why I decided to go for it. If my wife doesn't like it so much I can always play with myself 😅 I haven't played rebellion, it's sort of on my bucket list but that one for me seems the least likely to find someone willing to spend the full time for it. Have played war of the ring a couple times and really enjoyed that (except the random bag draws at the end of the game...)
Also your recent how to paint video was so good (makes me want to try it, i mean, if Chris can do it, so can I...) that if war for arrakis is a dud, I have at least supplied myself with ample minis to start/practice painting on and wont worry about messing them up lol.
@@nickgiannini8860 oh for sure if I can do it you can! I'm awful and also so proud of those simple washes!
All of the Dune!
Wait, is night cage not good? I was gonna get that.
It would be in my top 5 worst games personally.
good to know, thank you@@RoomandBoardReviews
@@n8rluva I also have a full review on it if you want a further breakdown :)
@@RoomandBoardReviewsyeah I’ll check it out
#4 rocks! Have you tried the new one?
i know that there is a game by the same designer that re-impliments alot of the mechanics and people are saying it is as good/better, don't know the name. I have not played that yet. If you mean the dune imperium expansions i havn't played those either. i want to play the expansions, but its chris's game so i gotta wait till he gets em.
WHERE'S THE LIST, CHRIS?! 😤 YOU SAID YOU'D SHOW THE GUESSES YOU MADE!
Haha I say them verbally! I thought Aeons end would be number 1, but I was wrong. I think I guessed aeons end, dune, nemesis, galactic era and then I knew abomination would be 10-6.
Jabba the Hutt cannot lead a Star Destroyer invasion against Chewie. He has no tactic value.
My collection is full of 8.5s. the games that aren't exactly feature wall - always wanna grab - ready to play for any group, but also appeal to me enough constantly to never actually let them go. Examples? Mice and mystics, Fort, Dwellings of Eldervale (which i freaking love and almost always win at, but is a chore to get tabled), Death May Die, Roll Player Adventures...
Everdell was very off putting for me personally. I got it to play because I was fooled into thinking it was a family game. It is not a family game. It is a game for grown die hard board gamers to crush complex point scores with card combos. The experience was literally the exact opposite of what I was expecting or wanting. Then I felt the incredibly beautiful family friendly art was wasted on such a deep and mature game. It would take a long time to master, and I would get very tired of the childish theme long before that would ever happen. I respect the game, but never want to paly it again. I sold my all in Everdell Collection withing a week of receiving it.
Everdell didn't work for me either. The worker placement spots are perhaps the most dull I've ever encountered, whereas the engine building with the cards was too deep by comparison. In general I found it very dependent on drawing the right cards (making card draw very powerful). It also has a pacing problem: some players can finish half an hour before others!! That's an unforgivable fault in my opinion; especially since Euro game design initially was intended to solve that problem by not having player elimination.
@@NtropEIf you finish 30 minutes early, that gives you plenty of time to Google how to play better lol...
My rating scale is similar, and for the same reason. If someone asks what you rate a game and your system is so granular you have to reference your BGG profile before answering, then the granularity is meaningless. I have a four point system, on BGG it uses 1, 8, 9, and 10.
1 = HELL NO
8 = I'll play it if the group insists, but I won't request it and would prefer to play something else
9 = HELL YES
10 is a rarely-used, special category reserved for games that hold a place in my heart beyond mere game play (generally nostalgia or other emotional connection, or the depth of the experience created while playing it). It's purely subjective and indescribable but I know them when I experience them. Eights and nines may move up and down as I play them, but 10's will probably always be 10's even if I never play them again.
Dune #1? You probably have friends😔
Yeah, it definitely really shines with a large group who are committed to that length of time. Definitely hard to get to the table, but when it happens whoo baby does it shine.
For me Aeons end in coop feels more like "Well, I coule solve one of our problems, .... but I want to use my money for more crystals😅
Crystals are overrated. ;)
First card to buy should be a spell in most (like 95%) cases so you dont up with an "all money, no spells"-hand.
With Zach Rating System 99% of the games would be a 5. Surely helpful information when most games have the same rating when you look it up.
Man...I really wanted to love Abomination. I was very disappointed. Just an okay game for me. I would sell it my wife would let me.
While I do the 1-10 scale on BGG, I respect Zach's reasoning and can get on board with his scale.
you are the internet and you know
My prediction before starting. Wrong, wrong, are you kidding me, really you picked that over #9, what planet are you from, of course fan boy, wrong, wrong, idiot, yes Blood Rage is the best game. Let's begin!
Oh it's Zach's Edition, missed that...I'll never get the upcoming 60 minutes back. LOL.
Based on #10 there might be hope!
Nope! 🤣
Chris, I’d try to be careful with the use of “I’ll be honest” or other popular versions like “Honestly” and “Truth be told” cuz it implies one lies all the other times.
But I do!! I'm lying LITERALLY every time I don't say it!!
hmmmmm..... now was this the lie? @@RoomandBoardReviews
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