@@ryanhau1073 and I think Sylvanas finally realized that what Anduin said in the last cinematic was right. Even Denathrius was expenxable to the jailer. She's beginning to doubt her permanence in the grand scheme of things
Slyvannas: "Join us or be forced to serve." (proceeds to lay down on a couch) Anduin: (pulls out notebook and puts on glasses) "Hmm, I see. And how does that make you feel? What do you think you should be doing?"
@@birdofterror6628 Read War Crimes. Both him and Garrosh spend a LOT of time talking together after Garrosh is captured in the Seige. Garrosh even has a chance to snap Anduin's neck, but lets him go after he realises Anduin just saved his life. Great book. Also some nice Sylvanas lore in it too with Valeera.
@@lewismassey9312 I'm something of a purist. If the Warcraft Team wants us to see something they'll show it to us. There's no reason to get a third party writer to create lore for a character they don't own. Blizzard screwed up Garrosh, that was their bad. You can't just retroactively improve him through a third party book. War Crimes can very easily just not have happened and we can just continue and nothing really changes.
@@birdofterror6628 i dunno man, it was pretty well written and garrosh was right about being forced into a position of power without being ready I don't think blizzard ruined his character. In fact they even had a bronze dragon say that this timeline is the absolute worst outcome of garrosh, and that in others he's hailed as a benevolent ruler
@@birdofterror6628 actually they just commission writers to give the story a good flow. Check out some interviews with the writers, you'll see that they say" blizzard gives you the outline for the story and you fill in the gaps". So the books are totally what the warcraft team intend for us to see
@@VDA19 To be fair, Denathrius helped the other Eternal Ones imprison the Jailer in the first place. So huh, yeah, Zovaal is probably still mad at him.
@@VDA19 ah well i kindaget it..i mean its the same brother that initially trapped him in the maw. But im also, almost sure he will be just evil for evils sake kinda villain.
i think its a reference to runescape theres a quest calle ape toll or such and there are bananas that teleport you which are required for a spell. correct me if that is not what you meant?
You have never heard a good voice actor, have you? Want good? Listen to Uther's voice actor. He actually acts out emotions. Listen to Ticker (a goblin from the Gobsquad) he has an amazing Brooklyn accent, and is voice by John DiMaggio who has no accent. Sylvanas' voice actor is completely monotone and only ever screams when doing something different. That's just lazy and litearlly anyone could do her job as good as her, if not better.
@@oluftheexplorer9476 Let People Enjoy Whatever They Want. Idk why you go into comments like 'Oh no these people don't enjoy and fave the same things as me WAAH.' 'Want Good? Listen to--' OK Boomer.
Glad to see someone at Blizzard actually remembers how diplomatic, perceptive and sassy Anduin is in-lore. Hopefully we'll see more of this in the future, I was really upset when BFA made him Saurfang's plot-stool.
I mean they make Jaina a crazy murder bitch by throwing idiot-balls at her and multiple horde characters just so Anduin could have her former plot niche so they'd better damn well use it. But I'm not liking where this is going unless Sylvannas gets obliterated by a horde character, preferably Cairne's soul. The Warchief we should've had over Garrosh. If they try to redeem her now, at the 11th hour, I'm gonna be super pissed.
Ah, did they shove Jaina back into the "crazy bitch" trope again for Shadowlands? I actually haven't played past the intro questline but I thought she magically got over her trauma in BFA so she could forgive the Horde of genocide. Also you're not wrong, but let's be real, all the characters have been playing hot-potato with the idiot ball since BFA dropped.
@@jem5378 No, she literally rescued Thrall and helped rescue Baine in Shadowlands. Also I disagree with “magically” doesn’t hate the horde. She still has hatred for some aspects of the horde but she learned to forgive the past and try to make things work during her questchain in Kultiras
@@samanosuke4851 Not only that. If you read the book Warcrimes there is a whole process of her reliving the past and realizing that she doesn't want to be like garrosh and doesn't want him to define what she is or how her future will be. That means her process of healing actually started right before warlords of draenor because this book ends with garrosh escaping.
I like how she's pointing this blade at him *exactly* like Arthas did in WotLK and Warbringers, right after he reminded her about her past and simularities
I love the tiny details they have in those cutscene. If you pay attention, once she says “I have not come this far to falter” she begins shaking as if to keep her composure. What a amazing cutscene blizzard
Considering Denathrius is his brother he seemed rather apathetic about him. Also what is the point of the Dreadlord Conspiracy ( documents strongly suggest Dreadlords are Denathrius' creation and have infiltrated and orchestrated every major Cosmic Power, causing Sargeras to find the Void and start a Titan Civil War ) if Denathrius' story is done? He has to escape.
@@VDA19 My working theory is that Keal'thas was being prepped to become a Dreadlord and when he surprises the Venthyr with his transformation he'll free Denathrius.
@@VDA19 I don't think they're literally brothers lol. Its more a term denoting their rank/status as the leaders/most powerful beings of their respective domains.
@@VDA19 I don't think Denathrius story is done, he's not dead, he's been defeated and confined in his sword, but I think will eventually play a role of some kind in the future!
This was mostly me in therapy when i knew my therapist knew that i wasnt entiely out of stone/ice and there was a spark of hope that not everything in my life was lost. It took years but i did it. Sylvanas also seems more soft every cinematic and more "human" again.
But we still don’t know WHAT caused Sylvanas to give up all but a sliver of hope and what is the sliver of hope she hold on to? Is their still a elven ranger general to wants to defend her people deep in her heart?
@@mikeparez She's sort of in that mental state of. "My past self is dead, this is who I am." And has been able to hold that persona for many years, but Anduin putting it together of "Why" She wants to give him a chance is for one thing. If she takes the choice away, she's just the next arthas.
Sylvanas tries to play Anduin forgetting the Little Lion's bestie is a literal black dragon, son of Deathwing, a master manipulator. They were playing friendly mindgames while Anduin was just a teen.
Oh damn. The Jailer was just using Denathrius all along. I was hoping he'd come back at some point this expansion! Also, they seem to have really improved the facial rigging, the animation on Sylvanas in particular looks really good in these cinematics.
As expected. What benefit does he have from Denathrius anyway and also he played a part in prison him in the first place. I wouldnt trust him if i were the jailer
@Invictus_trax i think Denathrius just does whatever he feels will empower him, rather than what is humanitarian. I wouldn’t be surprised if he planned to betray the jailor himself
Ok, but can we talk about "It's the choice you never had"? The way it, like, strikes him, and it puts what she's doing in perspective. She is *so desperate*, even in it as deep as she is, to not become Arthas, that's she's practically desperate for him to choose it willingly. Because she doesn't want to do to him what Arthas did to her. Holy crap, this is one of the most nuanced moments (to me) that I've seen in a HOT SECOND
@@HappyroosterYT I mean, don't they? Where has this Sylv been for the past hundreds if not THOUSANDS of azerothian races she's raised and forced to server her? Why all of the sudden is she so hell bent on willingness, she's never cared about it before.
@@oscuro_4890 I mean, maybe this is just me, but most of the Foresaken, seem genuinely loyal to Sylvanas? At least to the Foresaken, we’re led to believe she was a just and good ruler. Anything having to do with raising the dead in regards to consenting is... iffy at best, so idk if there is a “good” way. But she doesn’t take their free will, they can come and go as they please, it’s just that, most of them stay because Azeroth is just, really racist towards Undead. Again, just my take, but I don’t think she forces subjugation, that’s the one things that’s kept her apart from Arthas, that’s the line she’s drawn, which is why she hesitates here. (Also, yes Blizzard’s writing is inconsistent at best, but, I’m working with what I got)
@@w0rmsinger Isn't that wrong though, doesn't Sira herself say she didn't want this? In Shadows rising? and also most of her Dark Rangers abandoned her, including Velonara.
Gotta say, even if it is pretty elementary and not exactly a deep plot, this has been my favorite Shadowlands cinematic so far, and I say that as someone who hates Sylvanus.
Denathrius steals anima, creates Dreadlords to keep other cosmic factions busy (and wrecked the Titans/Order lol). He might have taken out the Arbiter and Primus too. But he's done all he can, he can be rescued AFTER the war has been won.
I don't know about lore much but Frostmourne is a very different. Arthas lost his humanity and basicaly became someone else. Silvanas is looking fine holding this sword it's like they're just transmoged it
@@rousrouslan4023 While the method is different, in the end its pretty the same which that both weapons would corrupt the soul of the user. Sylvannas is fine at the moment because the Jailor 'trusts' her, for now.
I'm not sure if it's the same sword, or just one that looks like it (in the same way that Mograine has a new sword in the image of Ashbringer). Anyways, what some people may have missed is that the Jailer says Denathrius fulfilled his purpouse while picking a crystal from a portal. I think that crytal is the result of Denathrius' experiments with the Naaru to create something like the crystal used in the Ashbringer. It makes sense to use a Light bearer to wield it. I'm calling it now, the name of the sword will be Lightmourne. xD
@@sgtsaldl Bruh they made her warchief in Legion and she had a role in Broken Shore... that's pretty front-and-center, at least if you are playing as Horde anyway, which I don't... not to mention the BFA prepatch, which happened at the end of Legion, was pretty much all her...
lick king? I guess thats what she wants yeah :D Since she has a thing for Wrynns she wants her own lick king. Edit: You cannot hide your spelling mistake!!
She wasn't lying when she said she respected Anduin or else she wouldn't have hesitated to use that mourneblade on him. She knows what it does, it's what made her into what she is now.
I have doubts that Shalamayne will be able to turn Anduin, even with that mourneblade crystal they imbued it with. It's why they want Anduin so badly, his inner power, his light, seems to be that potent.
it's not respect lol, anduin literally said in the video why she's hesitating and she's hating herself because he's right. Or at least it seems like he's right. I don't think even the writers know what are they doing with sylvanas. XD
Anduin: "Search your feelings, Sylvanas. You can't do this. I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate. " Sylvanas: "It is too late for me, Little lion. The Jailer will show you the true nature of the Death. He is your master now. " Anduin: "Then Sylvanas Windrunner is truly dead."
the difference is sylvanas has a choice where arthas' soul was consumed by frostmounre and he was just a slave to it granted he did choose to wield the sword he couldn't have known the outcome despite the warning
@Julia Díaz Sylvanas didn't. She was made to serve against her will - will she do the same to Anduin knowing what that means? My hunch - she hesitates for too long, Jailer comes in and decides to stab Anduin himself, Sylvanas shields Anduin and takes the hit, being transformed into the Lich Queen where Anduin escapes and she's later defeated, however, her soul spared because of her choice.
@Julia Díaz Arthas free will died when he taken up frostmourne. Sylvannas was forced to be unliving sure but no outside entity was forcing her to kill innocents.
In case anyone hasn't figured it out, the Jailer is testing her. He's not an idiot, he knows she was once mortal and thus has a soft spot for mankind despite all she's done and been through. By stealing Anduin's soul the same way Arthas stole hers, she'll have completed the transition into what is essentially the Shadowlands equivalent of the Lich Queen and become the very thing she always despised more than anything else. It's the only way the Jailer can trust that she is fully capable, willing, and committed to the cause with no remaining emotional attachments.
Honestly reflecting back on that finally makes her heel face turn following the soul shard reunion *make sense.* She is face to face with the realization that, with that final choice, she had become what she once vowed with all her power and fury to destroy. *She* made that *choice.* *That* is why she stays in the Maw and doesn't try to do something conniving to escape.
Indeed. We are once again at a crossroads. Another human royal, blessed with the Light, finds himself before a blade of Death and Despair. Where the Paladin fell to darkness, I have faith that the Priest will rise to the Light, as he always has.
Damn, the look in her eyes when she tells Anduin "I didn't come this far only to falter now". It's exactly the words the Jailer said and to me it feels like she's telling herself that rather than to Anduin like she doesn't want to use force on Anduin at all but she's compelled to do so in some way.
@@janeokeson-harlow4125 Hello and Merry christmas , is it really Varian's sword ? but it looks like with the power of frostmourne ? and is that cristal coming from frostmourne ? thx for your help ;)
this might be the best cinematic (done in-engine) in the history of WoW from the animation to the voice acting -- really top shelf. So many little touches like Anduin glacing down at Shalamourne before looking back up to face Sylvanas. All the cinematics since the prepatch have been stellar, but this is the best one yet in my view.
aww, there is still good inside her. Even tho she commited genocide against the Night elves and tore the Horde apart and did awful war crimes she still is go- wait..
@@soggybiscuit4208 except they don’t, Anduin has been a character pretty much since Cata and Sylvanas has always been jelly/scared or angry at someone ever since she became a corpse
it is basically evil guy dialogue 101 in my opinion. They always go for the "You know what must be done" to a X or Y character so they won't hesitate to do evil things.
@@orrthehunter See that's the thing - it's a good piece of dialogue if used once, maybe twice. Problem is, they use it so often and have literally have never changed how it is said. It is always verbatim "You know what must be done" and I'm amazed that isn't caught in rewrites.
Anduin: "Then how about I become your... big lion? You'd like that, wouldn't you?" Sylvanas: "Oh Anduin, you have no idea how long I've waited for you to say that. Take me here and now, boy!" Anduin: "At your side, milady!"
Anduin realized that if Sylvanas let him lose hope, then Sylvanas could finally let her go too ... But in Sylvanas's case, it's still hope for what? Free will? Sylvanas has always said that she never had a choice ... so at the end of the cutscene, Anduin gives her the opportunity to make a choice that Arthas did not give her once - enslavement with the runeblade or not. In the cinematic in the role of Arthas - Sylvanas, and in the role of Sylvanas - Anduin, even the scenes are very similar. "Make your choice, Sylvanas Windrunner" Sylvanas did not have that choice on the day of her death, so her choice becomes very interesting.
I don't care if people hate both of them this scene is amazing for so many reasons. Her holding the runeblade is an EXACT mirror of arthas, except she has her free will and he didn't. She can CHOOSE not to commit these atrocities. She's giving anduin the choice she never had and he's showing her how she became the thing she swore to destroy. The thing that took everything from her and her people....and she knows this and she HATES it. It's great.
The mind battle between the two is so good! I'm shook that the Jailer turned Shalamayne into a mourneblade, though. I was speculating on Reddit that Anduin would get a light-forged runeblade to become the anti-Arthas. It seems that I was only partially correct. He is getting a runeblade, but it's his, and it's likely to be used to make him the next Arthas instead.
It’s weird seeing facial animation this subtle and good at what it’s trying to show in the same cinematic as a guy who still has bananas for bangs. There’s really no good way to apply physics to that boy’s hair.
Yeah, I honestly have hated Sylvanas for a lot of reasons but moreso for the loyalist fanboys she has that defend everything she does, but he as a character plainly I don't mind, you're not supposed to like her or the things she's done which makes her compelling as a villain, or anti villain. This interaction with Anduin was actually really well acted and it set Anduin on par with her when she always seems to try to be elusive and subtle about her inner thoughts playing 4D chess. It felt good to see Anduin stand against Sylvanas and for her to not have some form of clap-back ready.
@@roguepoison She literaly had no problem brainwashing Derek to kill his entire family in their sleep, She having moral troubles now with the same choice but with anduin Is either Hypocrisy or their are writing with their arses.
@@PsicoPrime well for one, she didn't try to turn Derek with a mourneblade, she raised him from the dead and wanted to subjugate him and make him an assassin/spy, this scene clearly showed the parallels of how Arthas turned her into a Banshee which does strike a cord in her. I'm not saying that there isn't any hypocrisy or inconsistent writing, but there's a big difference from from raising the dead through her Valkyr and using a mourneblade.
@@PsicoPrime I personally haven't played WoW in years so I can't speak for character consistency or not, tbh. I only judge these cinematic as they are and based on what I knew of Sylvanas from WC3 and classic WoW
Is it just me, or is 1:08 the moment Anduin sees the sword? ^^ As if there is a flicker of sadness followed by an almost instant "okay, this is it". The facial expressions are so cool, though!
I need the music of this cinematic! So good especially when it starts building up while Anduin makes his shrink talk and when it escalates to where Sylvanas cutting it off!
Also, I love how much Anduin fights Sylvanas'/Jailer's classic villain banter. Sylvanas saying things like "The choice is yours to make", "Join us as an ally or serve us as a slave" and "You are only making this harder". Meanwhile, Anduin is like "No no. I don't play like that" and proceeds to psychoanalyze her. Even better is that he finally puts the pieces of the puzzle together, causing Sylvanas' cold shell to crack. Anduin turned this into Sylvanas' choice. He's in no position to threaten Sylvanas like this, yet he manages to do so because Anduin finally figured her out. And she knows that everything Anduin is saying is right. That "Don't" delivery is when Sylvanas realizes this. She wants so badly to force him to submit, but something is holding her back from doing so. Also, when the Jailer suggests that it's time to corrupt Anduin, Sylvanas, in a roundabout and ass backwards way, defends Anduin, saying that he isn't ready yet and to give them more time. Sylvanas is in the position of power now, but she has to tell herself that she *has* to do this, repeating the same thing the Jailer said to her along with the cliché "You know what must be done". But now, Sylvanas is questioning this. She's been trying to break through Anduin's mental wall, but has failed to do so with words alone, all the while wearing Sylvanas down so that by the time she's told to force Anduin into submission, she hesitates. TL:DR This is a really good cinematic to deconstruct and I'm excited to see where the dynamic between these two takes them.
Also also, When Sylvanas heard about Sire Denathrius' capture, her immediate question to the Jailer was asking how they are going to rescue him from the enemy. All the Jailer had to say was that Denathrius had fulfilled his purpose and moved on just as quickly as the subject was brought up. That right there told Sylvanas that the Jailer didn't see Denathrius as anything more than a weapon or a tool that had played his part. Now he's intent to simply put that tool away. Anduin warned Sylvanas that the Jailer is going to use Sylvanas, caring little for her ideals and wants. At that moment, Sylvanas realized Anduin was right. I love that instead of Sylvanas convincing Anduin to join forces with death, he made Sylvanas question her allegiance with death. The mirco facial expressions and the voices say it all. It's very subtle but very well done. Props to the animators and voice actors. They be killing it!
I think it might just be more of a proxy for her little brother or a son she never had, especially if she feels somewhat responsible over what happened to Varian at the Broken Shore.
I have been amused by the fact that the Jailer lets his prisoners keep their armor and weapons while he has them locked up. Seriously, does Anduin sleep in that freaking armor?
i would imagine its probably just for cinematic model convenience sake. unless of course part of being tortured in the maw is being forced to sleep in armor.
Anduin:"Then why are you hesitating?" (flash-back to Nathanos in Ghostlands) Nathanos: "When the time comes, there can be no hesitation." Inside Sylvanas's brain: "internally flips table like she just lost a game of psychological monopoly.
*Meanwhile somewhere in Torghast* Arthas shouting in the background: Purge! Purge! Purge! Purge! Purge! Sylvanas: I can still hear his voice tormenting me inside. Arthas: This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged!
![Sylvanas Turns Anduin Into Death Knight With Arthas' Soul: All Cinematics [WoW: Eternity's End]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mqChfYMhBwo/mqdefault.jpg)
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Anduin unlocks a new priest spec: Psychologist.
STOP 💀
Ajshahahahha
OMG XD
MY MAN HAS BECOME THE JORDAN PETERSON OF AZEROTH LMAAAAAAAAAO
hahahahha !
Anduin’s human racial “Diplomacy” coming through strong here.
Ahahah
Underrated comment!
More like "Human Racial: make an elf woman fall in love with you".
@@Dendarang Well as far as High Elves and Humans go your not wrong... Look at both of the other Windrunner sisters for good examples of that
@@xeraxe3485 Not just ‘both’, all three of them. If the Windrunner brother lived, he would have has a human girlfriend.
Sylvanas keeps trying to play mind games with Anduin but she forgot that Mindgames is a priest card.
underated comment
ooooof. Genius.
@@cainabel6356 he's a praladin, basically both
@@cainabel6356 nope, Priest
@@EricoBotelho Both Main Characters are often two or three classes combined
Sylvanas: I'm gonna persuade him
Anduin: *uno reverse card*
Anduin uses Empathy, it’s super effective!
Anduin's Talk no Jutsu
Wanna bet that the stone is Arthas soul
@@barramuti27 like me :))
I would gladly serve sylvanas. My queen. So hot, so pretty.
Sylvanas: Sire Denathrius has been captured
the Jailer: oh no... Anyways...
that made me go ughhh
To the Jailer, Denathrius is just another Arrow in the Quiver, just like everyone else
@@ryanhau1073 and I think Sylvanas finally realized that what Anduin said in the last cinematic was right. Even Denathrius was expenxable to the jailer. She's beginning to doubt her permanence in the grand scheme of things
@@joeblow3145 which is why she hesitates to do what Arthas did to her....
Jailer is jelly that Daddy Denathrius is more popular.
When your healer invests all his points into Charisma.
I laughed
paladins be like
You might have more likes if this was true.
Anduin has just no charisma :/ I am surprised he is still alive tho
New Bard class confirmed, right?
@@Tybonhomme Disliked Anduin in BFA starting to like him more myself.
Sylvanas: You are only making this harder for yourself.
Anduin: NO U
check that " tism " of yours
@@jsw78 What "tism"?
Is this how the UNO card game was created?
Phsycology 101
@@Oaglor I think he talks about astigmatism or maybe obscurantism. xD
It’s a no-wrynn situation
Take your thumbs up and go.
*Angry upvote*
Well played sir
literally hate you but take my thumbs up
Blizzard should stage a show in blizzcon only with these puns/jokes from the community 😂
Slyvannas: "Join us or be forced to serve." (proceeds to lay down on a couch)
Anduin: (pulls out notebook and puts on glasses) "Hmm, I see. And how does that make you feel? What do you think you should be doing?"
hahaha, good one ! Man what an underated comment !!
First Garrosh, now Sylvanas... Anduin sure does love his psychology courses.
Garrosh ended up breaking Anduin's legs. I wonder how this is gonna go.
@@birdofterror6628 Read War Crimes. Both him and Garrosh spend a LOT of time talking together after Garrosh is captured in the Seige. Garrosh even has a chance to snap Anduin's neck, but lets him go after he realises Anduin just saved his life. Great book. Also some nice Sylvanas lore in it too with Valeera.
@@lewismassey9312 I'm something of a purist. If the Warcraft Team wants us to see something they'll show it to us. There's no reason to get a third party writer to create lore for a character they don't own. Blizzard screwed up Garrosh, that was their bad. You can't just retroactively improve him through a third party book. War Crimes can very easily just not have happened and we can just continue and nothing really changes.
@@birdofterror6628 i dunno man, it was pretty well written and garrosh was right about being forced into a position of power without being ready
I don't think blizzard ruined his character. In fact they even had a bronze dragon say that this timeline is the absolute worst outcome of garrosh, and that in others he's hailed as a benevolent ruler
@@birdofterror6628 actually they just commission writers to give the story a good flow. Check out some interviews with the writers, you'll see that they say" blizzard gives you the outline for the story and you fill in the gaps". So the books are totally what the warcraft team intend for us to see
Sylvanas: "Switch sides"
Manduin: "No u"
[ *IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!* ]
*Crowd gasps*
And his dad said that psychology course was a waste.
I want to like this comment, but it's at 69 likes. I'll just state my appreciation here.
Dude, you can't leave us hanging like that.
I know, right? I want more!
same dude ^^
why do I have a low-key vibe she going to "change of heart" later in the game idk.... I have this weird feeling
eh, its false cliff hanger. Turned out they played pool for the next few hours then decided to catch a movie.
The scene ending will come on the next christine golden book for only 100U$D, thats it friend, the expansion is over, clean the room before u go.
In essence
Sylvanas: My lord, sire denathrius has been imprisoned.
Jailer: well now he knows what its like.
I expected Zovaal to at least show SOME form of compassion towards his brother. They're making him too dumb evil.
😂👍
@@VDA19 To be fair, Denathrius helped the other Eternal Ones imprison the Jailer in the first place. So huh, yeah, Zovaal is probably still mad at him.
@@VDA19 ah well i kindaget it..i mean its the same brother that initially trapped him in the maw. But im also, almost sure he will be just evil for evils sake kinda villain.
this comment made me laugh out loud for real
*Meanwhile The Glorious Horde Leaders In Oribos*
"Hey Thrall, want some Tel-Abim bananas?"
"Thanks Baine, I was really starving!"
*Expansion Ends*
lol wut xD
lmao
God dammit Baine, i told you already, too much SHAFT !
Logic never works on women this is fake
i think its a reference to runescape theres a quest calle ape toll or such and there are bananas that teleport you which are required for a spell. correct me if that is not what you meant?
Im guessing shalamayne is now Shalamourne
Save this comment for later. Maybe you are right
Nice.
Ooo, can 100% get behind that. Shalamourne, sounds pretty great.
Shalamourne? It sounds like an italian meal.
@@joxerd 🤌🏼 italiano shalmournee
" I for one, do not trust her, her heart is still elven "
- Balnazzar
AHHHHHH cries in W3 flashbacks
Eheheh I was about to say that XD
Only hardcore warcraft 3 players remenbers this!
I mean you don't need to be a hardcore player, just to have done the campaign once...
"She will never side with us " Balnazzar she is going to betray them
Sylvanas' voice actress gives me goosebumps she's so good.
Yeah. Like her or not, her voice is amazing, we can't deny it.
You have never heard a good voice actor, have you?
Want good? Listen to Uther's voice actor. He actually acts out emotions. Listen to Ticker (a goblin from the Gobsquad) he has an amazing Brooklyn accent, and is voice by John DiMaggio who has no accent.
Sylvanas' voice actor is completely monotone and only ever screams when doing something different. That's just lazy and litearlly anyone could do her job as good as her, if not better.
@@oluftheexplorer9476 Okay. Boomer.
@@eilert_ Your statement there really just proves my point since you getting that defensive is never without reason lol
@@oluftheexplorer9476 Let People Enjoy Whatever They Want.
Idk why you go into comments like 'Oh no these people don't enjoy and fave the same things as me WAAH.' 'Want Good? Listen to--'
OK Boomer.
Glad to see someone at Blizzard actually remembers how diplomatic, perceptive and sassy Anduin is in-lore. Hopefully we'll see more of this in the future, I was really upset when BFA made him Saurfang's plot-stool.
I mean they make Jaina a crazy murder bitch by throwing idiot-balls at her and multiple horde characters just so Anduin could have her former plot niche so they'd better damn well use it.
But I'm not liking where this is going unless Sylvannas gets obliterated by a horde character, preferably Cairne's soul. The Warchief we should've had over Garrosh.
If they try to redeem her now, at the 11th hour, I'm gonna be super pissed.
Ah, did they shove Jaina back into the "crazy bitch" trope again for Shadowlands? I actually haven't played past the intro questline but I thought she magically got over her trauma in BFA so she could forgive the Horde of genocide.
Also you're not wrong, but let's be real, all the characters have been playing hot-potato with the idiot ball since BFA dropped.
wtf? he did exacly diplomacy thing with saurfang
@@jem5378 No, she literally rescued Thrall and helped rescue Baine in Shadowlands. Also I disagree with “magically” doesn’t hate the horde. She still has hatred for some aspects of the horde but she learned to forgive the past and try to make things work during her questchain in Kultiras
@@samanosuke4851 Not only that. If you read the book Warcrimes there is a whole process of her reliving the past and realizing that she doesn't want to be like garrosh and doesn't want him to define what she is or how her future will be. That means her process of healing actually started right before warlords of draenor because this book ends with garrosh escaping.
I like how she's pointing this blade at him *exactly* like Arthas did in WotLK and Warbringers, right after he reminded her about her past and simularities
YES
Or how literally anyone would point a blade at someone they're threatening.
@@LuckySmurf no one points a blade at someone THAT close, you can get easily disarmed.
@@LuckySmurf the camera angle, the way she holds it, the pose, it's a DIRECT reference to the WOTLK cinematic
just like when arthas pulls the ice in, in the cinematic.
I love the tiny details they have in those cutscene. If you pay attention, once she says “I have not come this far to falter” she begins shaking as if to keep her composure. What a amazing cutscene blizzard
i think the offhand dismissal of Denathrius' plight showed her how insignificant the jailor considers his allies.
Considering Denathrius is his brother he seemed rather apathetic about him. Also what is the point of the Dreadlord Conspiracy ( documents strongly suggest Dreadlords are Denathrius' creation and have infiltrated and orchestrated every major Cosmic Power, causing Sargeras to find the Void and start a Titan Civil War ) if Denathrius' story is done? He has to escape.
@@VDA19 My working theory is that Keal'thas was being prepped to become a Dreadlord and when he surprises the Venthyr with his transformation he'll free Denathrius.
@@VDA19 I don't think they're literally brothers lol. Its more a term denoting their rank/status as the leaders/most powerful beings of their respective domains.
@@VDA19 I don't think Denathrius story is done, he's not dead, he's been defeated and confined in his sword, but I think will eventually play a role of some kind in the future!
@@meryl_96 plus they can't kill the dude without killing the whole realm of Ravendreth since...."I AM THE WILL OF RAVENDRETH!"
I really love the "Don't" From Sylvanas. She knows he's right.
*softly* Dont
So do I, she remembers her past and hurts her thats why she said that don't
This was mostly me in therapy when i knew my therapist knew that i wasnt entiely out of stone/ice and there was a spark of hope that not everything in my life was lost. It took years but i did it. Sylvanas also seems more soft every cinematic and more "human" again.
But we still don’t know WHAT caused Sylvanas to give up all but a sliver of hope and what is the sliver of hope she hold on to? Is their still a elven ranger general to wants to defend her people deep in her heart?
@@mikeparez She's sort of in that mental state of. "My past self is dead, this is who I am." And has been able to hold that persona for many years, but Anduin putting it together of "Why" She wants to give him a chance is for one thing.
If she takes the choice away, she's just the next arthas.
Sylvanas tries to play Anduin forgetting the Little Lion's bestie is a literal black dragon, son of Deathwing, a master manipulator. They were playing friendly mindgames while Anduin was just a teen.
Somewhere wrathion wants to smile smuggled and doesn’t no why.
Wrathion: I don't know why, but I think Anduin's providing therapy to Death itself. ...My man.
He may not be a fighter like his father- but he sure knows how to use words. Long live the King
"Words can often hurt more than any blade."
Power word: Roast
Master of Talk No Jutsu
he's got one hell of a bubble too
@@mattemattics5667 Didn't work on garrosh
Varian: "Look how they massacred my sword."
yup
Im pondering if the blue stone is meant to be Varian. Much like Frostmorne would hold Terenas' soul while Arthas was the Lich King.
@@FreakkeTheClown Varian's soul was obliterated by fel
Referencing The Godfather I see. Well done lad well done. Laughs in Marlon Brando lol.
@@emilklingberg1623 Is this confirmed or speculation?
Sylvanas: Denathrius down
Jailer: Keep combat ress for tanks and healers.
I am waiting for Denathrius' "Nathria is merely a setback moment".
This made me laugh for real because it is so real!
*Healer* .... " I use on low DPS anyways... ok!"
Sylvanas: *remembers that she's a marksmanship hunter dps* "I'm in danger"
Sylvanas: Sire Denathrius has been captured.
The Jailer: I Don’t Know Her 💅
LMAO
Who is she? We don't know her.
Lol
it is now Ghostmane
Denathri-ain'tus 😌💅
Oh damn. The Jailer was just using Denathrius all along. I was hoping he'd come back at some point this expansion! Also, they seem to have really improved the facial rigging, the animation on Sylvanas in particular looks really good in these cinematics.
As expected. What benefit does he have from Denathrius anyway and also he played a part in prison him in the first place. I wouldnt trust him if i were the jailer
Denathrius is arrogant. He will want to take revenge as Remornia.
Azshara 2.0? Ends up helping us in the future maybe??
He if definetly coming back for revenge in this expansion. He was out in the fridge not the freezer (like Illidan) for future expansionist
@Invictus_trax i think Denathrius just does whatever he feels will empower him, rather than what is humanitarian. I wouldn’t be surprised if he planned to betray the jailor himself
Ok, but can we talk about "It's the choice you never had"? The way it, like, strikes him, and it puts what she's doing in perspective. She is *so desperate*, even in it as deep as she is, to not become Arthas, that's she's practically desperate for him to choose it willingly. Because she doesn't want to do to him what Arthas did to her. Holy crap, this is one of the most nuanced moments (to me) that I've seen in a HOT SECOND
@@HappyroosterYT I mean, don't they? Where has this Sylv been for the past hundreds if not THOUSANDS of azerothian races she's raised and forced to server her? Why all of the sudden is she so hell bent on willingness, she's never cared about it before.
@@oscuro_4890 Been a long time, but dont all forsaken get a choice when they get raised? To 'stay or go'? Cant remember the lore...lol
@@oscuro_4890 I mean, maybe this is just me, but most of the Foresaken, seem genuinely loyal to Sylvanas? At least to the Foresaken, we’re led to believe she was a just and good ruler. Anything having to do with raising the dead in regards to consenting is... iffy at best, so idk if there is a “good” way. But she doesn’t take their free will, they can come and go as they please, it’s just that, most of them stay because Azeroth is just, really racist towards Undead. Again, just my take, but I don’t think she forces subjugation, that’s the one things that’s kept her apart from Arthas, that’s the line she’s drawn, which is why she hesitates here. (Also, yes Blizzard’s writing is inconsistent at best, but, I’m working with what I got)
@@dustinjones7458 yeah, they have a choice, there’s just, not many other places for undead to go, so most end up staying
@@w0rmsinger Isn't that wrong though, doesn't Sira herself say she didn't want this? In Shadows rising? and also most of her Dark Rangers abandoned her, including Velonara.
Everyone: Master, Sire Denathrius has been defeated
The Jailor: Sire The Who?
Someone: Master. A Soul told me there is an edgy imprisoned Nephrazim-thing. What is that?
Jailer: The Edgy BaTsOuP
Sylvanas: THIRD BASE!
@@Servellion Goddayum. Varimathras was just beginning.
Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave…
The voice acting is top notch
Yea, I wish all the other voice acting in the game was like this and not like a Saturday morning cartoon
If only the storytelling was as good.
Gotta say, even if it is pretty elementary and not exactly a deep plot, this has been my favorite Shadowlands cinematic so far, and I say that as someone who hates Sylvanus.
@@windumaster14 out of interest what exactly is bad about the story telling? Like other than you don’t personally like it’s direction?
This has got to be one of the best cinematics so far. The voice acting, facial expressions (especially Sylvanas in my opinion), is fantastic.
They captured her hesitation enough to show she wasn't completely on aligned with the jailer
Sylvanas: denathrius just lost
Jailer: kick him from the party
Grimmy
I guess Denathrius wasn't a AOTC/CE Lead big pumper like those that downed him LOL.
The Jailer got fed up with him always spamming Dancing Rune Blade.
Denathrius steals anima, creates Dreadlords to keep other cosmic factions busy (and wrecked the Titans/Order lol). He might have taken out the Arbiter and Primus too. But he's done all he can, he can be rescued AFTER the war has been won.
"Clutch or kick."
Anduin used talk no jutsu!
*_It's super effective!_*
Humans always did have the gift of the gab.
Naruto: "that's my boy"
They corrupted Varian's sword as a new "frostmourne", they be trying to turn Anduin into the new Arthas, that's pretty clear.
I don't know about lore much but Frostmourne is a very different. Arthas lost his humanity and basicaly became someone else. Silvanas is looking fine holding this sword it's like they're just transmoged it
@@rousrouslan4023 While the method is different, in the end its pretty the same which that both weapons would corrupt the soul of the user. Sylvannas is fine at the moment because the Jailor 'trusts' her, for now.
sylvanas is already on the forsaken's corruption, she cant be anymore different.
@@oussamaradouane4534 She is buffed by the Jailor's power.
I'm not sure if it's the same sword, or just one that looks like it (in the same way that Mograine has a new sword in the image of Ashbringer). Anyways, what some people may have missed is that the Jailer says Denathrius fulfilled his purpouse while picking a crystal from a portal. I think that crytal is the result of Denathrius' experiments with the Naaru to create something like the crystal used in the Ashbringer. It makes sense to use a Light bearer to wield it. I'm calling it now, the name of the sword will be Lightmourne. xD
Uff "sylvannas windrunner" to completely call back those memories of her
Sylvanas: "I will mentally break you."
Anduin: "Uh, excuse me, do you know who I am?"
Logic never works on women this is fake
Oh No!....
Anyway...the new Dacia Sandero.....
@@thegreenreaper6660 James from bottom gear is hesitate to roight through the groin
@@ihatemyself2208 haha, like that old German Navigation system? That 'odd man giving handsignals' Take the third Reich? :P
Denatharius has been captured..
Jailer: Damn, that's crazy... so anyway.
Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave…
Chad Jailer confirmed...
OH NO
Anyway
sylvanas: *wants to make anduin serve her and the jailer*
sylvanas' ptsd: now hold on
*I should not have laughed so hard at that*
I feel bad for laughing-
I have PTSD, I don't feel bad for laughing at all XD
vietnam(silvermoon) flashbacks inscoming
Sylvanas: 👁👄👁
Sylvannas' voice actor is superb
"There she is again." LOL XD
Every WoW player's response to Sylvanas being front and center for the third expansion in a row.
@@Veloziraptor111 Third? second unless you count the 1 zone in legion she was part of as a center?
@@sgtsaldl Bruh they made her warchief in Legion and she had a role in Broken Shore... that's pretty front-and-center, at least if you are playing as Horde anyway, which I don't... not to mention the BFA prepatch, which happened at the end of Legion, was pretty much all her...
@@ddl9228 Yeah but she got side lined right after the broken shore and BFA prepatch is BFA
@@sgtsaldl Hardly matters as she's still a overrated and really poorly written character.
She’s making our blond baby into lich king 2.0!
lick king? I guess thats what she wants yeah :D Since she has a thing for Wrynns she wants her own lick king. Edit: You cannot hide your spelling mistake!!
@@thor.mukbang they changed Wrynn sword though, made it into runeblade
@@Overlich It's Lich King, not Lick King. The two are very very different jobs.
-Arthas
@@Dionyboz Yeah but the inital comment from the OP had a spelling mistake
"There must always be a Lich King."
She wasn't lying when she said she respected Anduin or else she wouldn't have hesitated to use that mourneblade on him. She knows what it does, it's what made her into what she is now.
I have doubts that Shalamayne will be able to turn Anduin, even with that mourneblade crystal they imbued it with. It's why they want Anduin so badly, his inner power, his light, seems to be that potent.
That's shalmalyne anduin sword in Sylvannas hand, they turned it blue 😒
Still looks awesome and badass
Imagine we can obtain that sword
Are they trying to make Anduin like Arthas?!
it's not respect lol, anduin literally said in the video why she's hesitating and she's hating herself because he's right.
Or at least it seems like he's right. I don't think even the writers know what are they doing with sylvanas. XD
Anduin: "Search your feelings, Sylvanas. You can't do this. I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate.
"
Sylvanas: "It is too late for me, Little lion. The Jailer will show you the true nature of the Death. He is your master now.
"
Anduin: "Then Sylvanas Windrunner is truly dead."
9.3 - "Anduin...Tell my sisters you were right about me. You were right..."
👏 bravo i don't think I've ever considered a rewording of that line.
Hehe I love this!!
Where is this from?
From star wars nice👍👌
I want people to appreciate the VA of Anduin. Especially with that initial dialogue.
The initial part of dialogue was so unnatural, and doesn’t fit to the Abduin’s character. I don’t understand what you want to appreciate here
@@shahaman5694 Dude read the books, Its 100% Anduins character or do the entire Pandaria Anduin questline.
Josh Keaton.
@@TheeRevdude You don't always get to see the sass though.
The Sylvanas-Arthas parallels are amazing.
Oh hey Remus ^^ Glad to see ya here!
the difference is sylvanas has a choice where arthas' soul was consumed by frostmounre and he was just a slave to it granted he did choose to wield the sword he couldn't have known the outcome despite the warning
@Julia Díaz Sylvanas didn't. She was made to serve against her will - will she do the same to Anduin knowing what that means?
My hunch - she hesitates for too long, Jailer comes in and decides to stab Anduin himself, Sylvanas shields Anduin and takes the hit, being transformed into the Lich Queen where Anduin escapes and she's later defeated, however, her soul spared because of her choice.
@Julia Díaz Arthas free will died when he taken up frostmourne. Sylvannas was forced to be unliving sure but no outside entity was forcing her to kill innocents.
I got a feeling by the end of this, we will get an Arthas Apology to sylvanas, and by extension an redemption for both
In case anyone hasn't figured it out, the Jailer is testing her. He's not an idiot, he knows she was once mortal and thus has a soft spot for mankind despite all she's done and been through. By stealing Anduin's soul the same way Arthas stole hers, she'll have completed the transition into what is essentially the Shadowlands equivalent of the Lich Queen and become the very thing she always despised more than anything else. It's the only way the Jailer can trust that she is fully capable, willing, and committed to the cause with no remaining emotional attachments.
So that's what Nathanos meant when he said to her, "When the time comes, there can be no hesitation."
Honestly reflecting back on that finally makes her heel face turn following the soul shard reunion *make sense.* She is face to face with the realization that, with that final choice, she had become what she once vowed with all her power and fury to destroy. *She* made that *choice.*
*That* is why she stays in the Maw and doesn't try to do something conniving to escape.
Anduin calling her "Sylvanas Windrunner" instead of "Banshee Queen".
I ship
Anduin might be or was inlove Winth sylvanas :)))
@@SirJohnatan you know, not everything has to be sexual or has to be shipped.
@@Nightbrrd It's a psychological trick. Not him hitting on her.
It's him reminding her of who she is, not the name that was given.
You know, I thought I was going to hate this. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by it.
This is legit the most interesting thing Ive seen in Warcraft since the "I am my scars" Illidan video.
Well, time to watch that scene again.
Now I am imagining Anduin looking all corrupted but then stabbing the jailer. "MY DESTINY IS MY OWN!"
Compassion is his power. I always liked that about him.
Anduin for the win. Ő a legjobb
Indeed. We are once again at a crossroads. Another human royal, blessed with the Light, finds himself before a blade of Death and Despair. Where the Paladin fell to darkness, I have faith that the Priest will rise to the Light, as he always has.
The jailers voice is so soft and weirdly made that not even the automatic subs can pick it up.
They picked it up when I turned on CC.
But it annoys me that I had to in the first place.
😅
That is one of his ways to torture souls, not being able to understand what he says when he speaks.
I understand no one word, what he is saying :D:D
Heard it just fine at normal volume.
Anduin sounding a lot more like his daddy in this one. Finally he’s starting to show confidence.
Varian could’ve never done this. He had confidence in battle. Anduin has the mental confidence not to break.
"Shadowlands is free!"
Then why do I have to pay for it?
can, it just, not...
God that gave me PTSD
Please no...
we all know its coming, well finally have an ending even more cringe than WoD. and then the cycle will begin anew
"Choose."
Uno reverse card is played. "No. You choose."
lol
Damn, the look in her eyes when she tells Anduin "I didn't come this far only to falter now". It's exactly the words the Jailer said and to me it feels like she's telling herself that rather than to Anduin like she doesn't want to use force on Anduin at all but she's compelled to do so in some way.
Looks like Anduin is finally understanding Sylvanas’ 3D chess
Me:*sees the thumbnail*
Also Me: *Wrath of the lich king flashback*
Even the blade she's holding resembles Frostmourne!
reminds me of the trailer, where he swings the blade
@@DBZ-Mousa It's Varian's sword reforged!!
@@janeokeson-harlow4125 Hello and Merry christmas , is it really Varian's sword ? but it looks like with the power of frostmourne ? and is that cristal coming from frostmourne ? thx for your help ;)
@@atishalii it is varians sword reforged with the power of the maw
I'm lovin' Anduin in the cinematics.
Damn thta is some solid narrrative construction here . Great dialogue , great cinematic , we don't always need big battle to reach awesomness
I love how at 1:08, you can see Anduin look down, recognize Shalamane and then see him look a little sad, then look back up
this might be the best cinematic (done in-engine) in the history of WoW from the animation to the voice acting -- really top shelf. So many little touches like Anduin glacing down at Shalamourne before looking back up to face Sylvanas. All the cinematics since the prepatch have been stellar, but this is the best one yet in my view.
aww, there is still good inside her. Even tho she commited genocide against the Night elves and tore the Horde apart and did awful war crimes she still is go- wait..
I doubt she;s actually good probably jelly that Anduin is more mature than her
I don't what would be more stupid, having a 19 year old dude be more mature then the old ass elven lady or a Sylvanas redemption arc.
This expansion actually makes these two characters instead of just plot devices.
@@soggybiscuit4208 except they don’t, Anduin has been a character pretty much since Cata and Sylvanas has always been jelly/scared or angry at someone ever since she became a corpse
Classic Darth Vader move.
I swear, "You know what must be done" has to be the most common phrase said in Warcraft history.
it is basically evil guy dialogue 101 in my opinion. They always go for the "You know what must be done" to a X or Y character so they won't hesitate to do evil things.
@@orrthehunter See that's the thing - it's a good piece of dialogue if used once, maybe twice. Problem is, they use it so often and have literally have never changed how it is said. It is always verbatim "You know what must be done" and I'm amazed that isn't caught in rewrites.
WITNESS THE TRUE POWER OF.....
Second only to "ENOUGH." [stuns you and runs away]
" X was merely a setback"
Anduin "I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate!"
Sylvannas "It is too late for me, my little lion."
Anduin: "Then how about I become your... big lion? You'd like that, wouldn't you?"
Sylvanas: "Oh Anduin, you have no idea how long I've waited for you to say that. Take me here and now, boy!"
Anduin: "At your side, milady!"
Actually Varian was her lion, Anduin is her baby *-*
then, a hardcore porn scene starts.
For some reason, it seems to me that after the completion of this cinematic, Tyrande will burst in there and chaos will begin
Go ahead and add Greymane screaming "Sylvanas!" ..
@@MrCliverandy Exactly :D
Nathanos can't forget him
Oh yeah, where the hell is Nathanos?
@@Sanguiris Tyrande ganked him, so he's dead. So unless Blizz actually brings him back in he's gone
1:57 SHE DID THE THING
Wrath of the lichqueen
"My child, our line has always ruled with wisdom and strength..."
Caligo Caelum
Anduin realized that if Sylvanas let him lose hope, then Sylvanas could finally let her go too ... But in Sylvanas's case, it's still hope for what? Free will?
Sylvanas has always said that she never had a choice ... so at the end of the cutscene, Anduin gives her the opportunity to make a choice that Arthas did not give her once - enslavement with the runeblade or not. In the cinematic in the role of Arthas - Sylvanas, and in the role of Sylvanas - Anduin, even the scenes are very similar.
"Make your choice, Sylvanas Windrunner"
Sylvanas did not have that choice on the day of her death, so her choice becomes very interesting.
I don't care if people hate both of them this scene is amazing for so many reasons. Her holding the runeblade is an EXACT mirror of arthas, except she has her free will and he didn't. She can CHOOSE not to commit these atrocities. She's giving anduin the choice she never had and he's showing her how she became the thing she swore to destroy. The thing that took everything from her and her people....and she knows this and she HATES it. It's great.
I'm still eagerly awaiting for Sylvanas to die horribly, but this is a good scene (minus Anduin's exposition for newcomers sake).
she hesitated.
GOD THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD I NEED MY POPCORN
Being real, the animation quality of these is top freaking notch. The tiny touches--a lip tremble, a quick flicker of the eyes--it's soooo good.
Wow forums: “anduin is a loser”
Shadowlands:
Anduin has been a sassy know-it-all since he was a child. People dislike him for being so one-dimensional.
He’s not a loser...he’s just been kinda boring until now.
clearly they never bothered to see his character in any media besides the game
those wow forums spittin facts!
@@Ahoykatieee He's still boring.
The mind battle between the two is so good! I'm shook that the Jailer turned Shalamayne into a mourneblade, though. I was speculating on Reddit that Anduin would get a light-forged runeblade to become the anti-Arthas. It seems that I was only partially correct. He is getting a runeblade, but it's his, and it's likely to be used to make him the next Arthas instead.
Jesus, I need subtitles for all the damn reverb on the Jailer's voice
It’s weird seeing facial animation this subtle and good at what it’s trying to show in the same cinematic as a guy who still has bananas for bangs. There’s really no good way to apply physics to that boy’s hair.
Plot-twist : the anima-drought of the shadowlands is actually caused by all the mystical energy needed to maintain Anduin's hairstyle.
Lmaooo banana bangs
It's like anime hair. It's supposed to be bananas.
@@urboisimon4614 the banana bangs are a tradition that must be upheld at all costs
Apparently you never experienced the Banana plate armor from Vanilla
The faces and expressions are so good.
Man, Sylvanas' voice is just perfect and smooth
Arthas: Frostmourne hungers
Sylvanas: Shalamourne hungers
Death Knight mains: Hippity hoppity that new Mourneblade's our property! *Frostwyrm's Fury intensifies*
Anduin: Sylvanas hungers
anduin becoming Naruto by talking the enemy into submission
More like Luke-Vader type of stuff...
Anduin datebyao!!
Hard to do anything else, unlike Naruto, his hands aren't weapons.
@@rafaelantoniobazzanadossan9451 frpm the cell to the enemy bed
Those last few seconds from Sylvanas is "I'm literally shaking rn"
Anduin's so sassy, I love it!
Surprisingly, the conversations between Anduin and Sylvanas are kinda well written (if blunt) and got some character depth to them.
Yeah, I honestly have hated Sylvanas for a lot of reasons but moreso for the loyalist fanboys she has that defend everything she does, but he as a character plainly I don't mind, you're not supposed to like her or the things she's done which makes her compelling as a villain, or anti villain.
This interaction with Anduin was actually really well acted and it set Anduin on par with her when she always seems to try to be elusive and subtle about her inner thoughts playing 4D chess. It felt good to see Anduin stand against Sylvanas and for her to not have some form of clap-back ready.
They've been like that for quite some time. Even in Legion
@@roguepoison She literaly had no problem brainwashing Derek to kill his entire family in their sleep, She having moral troubles now with the same choice but with anduin Is either Hypocrisy or their are writing with their arses.
@@PsicoPrime well for one, she didn't try to turn Derek with a mourneblade, she raised him from the dead and wanted to subjugate him and make him an assassin/spy, this scene clearly showed the parallels of how Arthas turned her into a Banshee which does strike a cord in her.
I'm not saying that there isn't any hypocrisy or inconsistent writing, but there's a big difference from from raising the dead through her Valkyr and using a mourneblade.
@@PsicoPrime I personally haven't played WoW in years so I can't speak for character consistency or not, tbh.
I only judge these cinematic as they are and based on what I knew of Sylvanas from WC3 and classic WoW
Is it just me, or is 1:08 the moment Anduin sees the sword? ^^
As if there is a flicker of sadness followed by an almost instant "okay, this is it".
The facial expressions are so cool, though!
Anduin here sounds so decided. It's amazing
The Jailer: "We will win!"
The heroes of azeroth after defeating 99% of the world: Hah!
Blizzard: "THE JAILER WILL DROP EPIC LOOT!"
The heroes of azeroth: begin multiplying out of each other for jailer drops
The Jailer: "We will win!"
A level 1 Orc Warlock: "Hah!"
@@lukealvarez8359 The First Ones: All according to plan! :D
Old gods are eating popcorn right about now.
@@nahalastone8027 They dead my man.
Love their dynamic.
This expansion is so damn hype. I'm loving it so much so far.
was talking to Nicki Minaj
What would make it better is a cinematic or cutscene where Jaina gets into an argument with Tyrande over the actions of the Horde.
@@cameronmcewen9666 Yessss!!! THIS. I also would love for Jaina to get a full CGI cinematic since she's never been in one
I need the music of this cinematic! So good especially when it starts building up while Anduin makes his shrink talk and when it escalates to where Sylvanas cutting it off!
Someone has to be brave and tell the Jailer that he’s going a little too heavy on the blush.
Anduin: Ah.. I've been expecting you.
I can never understand the Jailer. Too many effects on his voice.
THISSS!!! His voice is absolutely awful, its unintelligible.
I was just thinking the same ..
Same!
Like they nailed Sargerases voice in Legion. They can do a great villaint voice. Why should I listen to this hard metalist?
Arthas's voice was also a mess, but you loved him cuz it's Arthas
Same voice actor as in Batman
Also, I love how much Anduin fights Sylvanas'/Jailer's classic villain banter. Sylvanas saying things like "The choice is yours to make", "Join us as an ally or serve us as a slave" and "You are only making this harder". Meanwhile, Anduin is like "No no. I don't play like that" and proceeds to psychoanalyze her. Even better is that he finally puts the pieces of the puzzle together, causing Sylvanas' cold shell to crack. Anduin turned this into Sylvanas' choice. He's in no position to threaten Sylvanas like this, yet he manages to do so because Anduin finally figured her out. And she knows that everything Anduin is saying is right. That "Don't" delivery is when Sylvanas realizes this. She wants so badly to force him to submit, but something is holding her back from doing so. Also, when the Jailer suggests that it's time to corrupt Anduin, Sylvanas, in a roundabout and ass backwards way, defends Anduin, saying that he isn't ready yet and to give them more time. Sylvanas is in the position of power now, but she has to tell herself that she *has* to do this, repeating the same thing the Jailer said to her along with the cliché "You know what must be done". But now, Sylvanas is questioning this. She's been trying to break through Anduin's mental wall, but has failed to do so with words alone, all the while wearing Sylvanas down so that by the time she's told to force Anduin into submission, she hesitates.
TL:DR This is a really good cinematic to deconstruct and I'm excited to see where the dynamic between these two takes them.
Why I think she will be Alarak in Warcraft?
Also also, When Sylvanas heard about Sire Denathrius' capture, her immediate question to the Jailer was asking how they are going to rescue him from the enemy. All the Jailer had to say was that Denathrius had fulfilled his purpose and moved on just as quickly as the subject was brought up. That right there told Sylvanas that the Jailer didn't see Denathrius as anything more than a weapon or a tool that had played his part. Now he's intent to simply put that tool away. Anduin warned Sylvanas that the Jailer is going to use Sylvanas, caring little for her ideals and wants. At that moment, Sylvanas realized Anduin was right. I love that instead of Sylvanas convincing Anduin to join forces with death, he made Sylvanas question her allegiance with death. The mirco facial expressions and the voices say it all. It's very subtle but very well done. Props to the animators and voice actors. They be killing it!
This cinematic was amazing. Also my guess is she'll betray the Jailor but still persue her ''antagonistic'' goals.
Ofc she betrays jailer....she still have humanity inside her ..she is afraid of death , she wants to chose how will "live" eternity,
I'm still standing behind my theory that Sylvannas secretly loves Anduin.
I absolutely hate you for giving me this ship! Thsi theory will never leave my brain again! Good job
You're welcome! :D
*Yeah Nathanos is just a hopeless and useless dude*
I think it might just be more of a proxy for her little brother or a son she never had, especially if she feels somewhat responsible over what happened to Varian at the Broken Shore.
@@sir_weltschmerz thanks this cleansed my soul
Anduin out here Hannibal Lector-ing Sylvanas I am thriving.
Thats unexpected but I like that. I always liked sylwanas but even more when she was on good side before she becomes undead
I have been amused by the fact that the Jailer lets his prisoners keep their armor and weapons while he has them locked up.
Seriously, does Anduin sleep in that freaking armor?
He also shits inside the circlet.
It probably wouldn't be that comfortable to sleep in.
i would imagine its probably just for cinematic model convenience sake. unless of course part of being tortured in the maw is being forced to sleep in armor.
I mean they made an armorless Maiev
He's a priest. It's cloth obv and very comfortable.
Anduin:"Then why are you hesitating?"
(flash-back to Nathanos in Ghostlands) Nathanos: "When the time comes, there can be no hesitation."
Inside Sylvanas's brain: "internally flips table like she just lost a game of psychological monopoly.
*Meanwhile somewhere in Torghast*
Arthas shouting in the background: Purge! Purge! Purge! Purge! Purge!
Sylvanas: I can still hear his voice tormenting me inside.
Arthas: This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged! This entire Citadel must be purged!
ahaahhaha canon