Scoring A Film In One Hour |
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Scoring a film to a deadline sort of comes with the job, but to do it with cameras, lights and microphones on you makes it all the more terrifying! Today, I'm attempting to write music for a 3.5 minute animation in 1 hour. In aid of the Backup Hardship Fund, this is a free-to-enter scoring competition. I'd humbly recommend you enter if you're interested in this sort of thing.
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Disclaimer: please realise that the quality of composition will be lower when done so quickly. This film is aimed to be just a bit of fun, so no haterz please! 😅
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3.5 minutes of music in 1 hour - how hard can it be?? Thanks for watching. Just a bit of fun, this one, but for a great cause! Donate to the Backup Hardship Fund if you can!
@Dan Keen Music - Great content! goes way above the title!!
If you wont mind I would like to ask you, how and where would you recommend to start with beggining to composing for films. in terms of DAW , music libraries, plugins, keyboards and basically the get go. im working on windows so logic is not an option for me unfortunately.
Hoping to hear from you ! thank you again for this video , subbed !
Sweet man I would love to collaborate
So cool, love it
it was really nice to watch this to be put together
"Sorry if this is boring"...man this is AWESOME! Thanks so much...I'm loving it!
Awesome! I was told a while back I need to be in the film scoring industry. This is really inspiring!
I think I know EXACTLY what i wanna do for the rest of my life after watching the first 15 minutes of this video; this is great!!!
Me too bro.... Me too
"I've only got a few minutes left..." Let me just alter time and compose twice as quickly...Dan's Marty McFly moment!
It's always fun to see other people's workflow. Especially because it oftentimes presents an opportunity to see how you can learn/improve! Awesome job!
Man, this is just a 1 hour masterclass! Thank you so much for that! You are very talented.
Dan this was absolutely mindblowing to witness!! started my scoring journey half a year ago and this was one of the most informative videos i have ever found in terms of peeking behind the curtain of scoring film. thank you for this! youre so talented.
Very impressive for that amount of time! The composer I used to assist would set a timer and write professional-sounding queues in 30 minutes when we ran into tight production schedules. The first time I saw him do it blew my mind. When I saw 3.5 minutes of music in an hour on the video description, I assumed you were going to be doing a queue that didn't have much complexity. Expected to see lots of pads, but you scored an animated sequence with all kinds of tempo and emotion changes and a crazy chase scene. Props! Thanks for sharing!
Great job Dan! Had this on in the background while slogging through creating a big old template. Some really nice moments in there, and the end result is far better than you give yourself credit for! Better than anything I could have done in an hour, thats for sure! Really enjoyed this format of putting yourself against the clock too, I definitely learnt quite a bit 🙂
Thanks for watching, Sam! Really pleased you enjoyed
@@DanKeenMusic You’re welcome Dan. Looking forward to the next one 🙂
Man, watching your workflow is amazing. I’m an absolute noob when it comes to compositions. It’s something i always wanted to get into but never die until now. I’ve been playing guitar for 17 years and it’s exiting to start this additional chapter. Channels like yours are invaluable for people like me.💪
That was really impressive and the final result goes flawlessly with the film. I loved it. I would be very interested if you could explain what's your process to decide where are your hit points for entrance and exits and how you decide what tempo changes are needed. That would be awesome! Thanks a lot and keep doing those great videos :)
Thank you, Adrien! I'd definitely be interested to share my rationale for this in a future film
Excellent work. Amazing! I've been searching RUclips trying to find someone that doesn't score big-budget films. Yours was so inspiring. I found a new passion.
Awesome job Dan! As a hobbyist composer whose biggest struggle is getting the first note written, I appreciate any insight into someone else's composing process. I'd definitely watch you live stream this sort of stuff!!!
This was SOOOOO GOOD!!! Definitely one of my favourite videos I’ve ever seen , it was super helpful and inspiring!
Not bad . Iv been playing and writing for 33 years now with 14 of those years practicing for film score and im sitting at about an average of 3 min per hour sometimes more sometimes less depending on the complexity of the scene. Finally after 30 years Im now officially scoring for films and working on my 3rd movie now XD.
This is a great composition & about what I'd expect from an expert. I was pleased that you attacked the project almost exactly as I did (sync pts, click track, plethora of pads & ensembles, IR/convolution, the IDEAS, etc.), even though I have no score training & can't read music. The engineering is where we differ.
Incredible video man. Can't believe we're getting this for free. Learned so much, appreciate you time and effort. And what a great piece of music as well! Can't wait to try my hand at this.
This is so inspiring Dan! Thank you for giving us some of your time and providing a window into your creative space. Awesome!!
Thank you for your kind words, Tim!
Man this was a great watch, didn't want to skip a minute. Nice work
Will come back to watch and listen again soon. So far so good!! An interesting method of scoring a film by basically playing the parts into your DAW as opposed to the very old school pen and paper for instance. Lots of ways to get it done. Lots of things to think about at once. Could be a very stressful job. Nonetheless I like what you are doing how you are doing it and how it sounds. Bravo!
amazing....the idea of sidechaining the score with SFX + Dialogue is genius. very effective tool.
Thanks so much! I use the same technique when mixing arrangements for vocalists!
I concur, It makes so much sense now that he said it. Thank you Dan!
Sidechaining makes a lot of sense. Very clever idea.
Never would’ve imagined watching this entire one hour video, but I did... it was very cool to see your process compressed into one quick hour and creating music on the spot. Loved to see the ideas flowing and you just running with them... interestingly enough, now I know to add an intro into my music... overall, COOL!
I'm an animator trying to get some insight on this part of production since it feels so alien and this process was amazing to watch. Thanks for sharing.
Great work Dan. I really love the chasing bits of the music. So good 😃
Very enlightening. Very talented. A great example of massive amount of layering without becoming muddy.
Very nice Job Dan ! Amazing quality and speed.
Congratulations on everything, Dan: this video in particular (and the great music you brought to life), the content on the channel, and your sampling work with Pianobook. Keep on doing you, best wishes!!
Wow! This is really great to see your workflow. My entry took me almost 4 days to be composed and produced, and now i see you doin' it in one hour. That is amazing and really enriching... So much to learn ! :) Thx for your video
Thank you for this insight. So much to learn. Many useful techniques!
Hi Dan, you made it wonderfully! Very interesting and impressive to see such a speed in the creation process! I tried and took me a long time to distribute my ideas in the timeline and match the timings (finally I gave up because I had passed the delivery time limit :-). And you made it in ONE HOUR!! WOW!!! Would love to see some live streams from you, I think we all can learn a lot from you! Keep the wonderful work and stay safe! Best Regards Christian
18:36 omg i'm watching ur video whilst eating lunch in-between assignment compositions ( I study film music) and this is exactly what I needed to hear! My music is too blocky right now- thanks!
This was so amazing to watch. I learned so much, including how important it is to have a mastery of your daw. Your work flow was very impressive. I tend to get bogged down in the technical process and then the musical inspiration gets lost. Thank you so much!
If I learned one thing from this, it is that dynamics is emotion
Thanks Dan! really well done. As I could not do this one, it was great to at least watch it be done with a masterful, with ease approach. It takes me half a day to create edit points!
To do that in one hour, phenomenal! Great score
Thanks Alan, you're too kind
I think Radiohead might be in touch to talk about the last part of your music...
Nice job mate, some lovely ideas in there. Quite pastoral a la Vaughan Williams.
This was special to watch, not once was I bored! This is really helpful, insightful and inspiring.
Thank you for taking the bold move to capture the entire session. Great work that I will be referring to no doubt in the future!
After 8 years of scrolling on RUclips never have i ever heard a musician says the word donation and I couldn't hit the subscribe button fast enough!!
8:00 is dangerously close to pyramid song. Beautiful progression
Hi Dan, this was soo good! Would you please do a video on spotting and setting the tempo points and your thought process behind that? Would be super insightful!
Hey Dan - Bravo! Impressive and inspiring workflow. Considering adding a stopwatch to my writing time now... 😂 Well done and thanks for continuing to provide interesting and informative content. Paul
Watching your workflow kept me on the edge of a seat till the end. Very inspiring and I'd certainly welcome more videos of that kind from you. Awesome!
Always good to see someones working methods as there is always something to learn. I’d already done mine before I saw this but thanks for sharing. Good luck
That was great! I'm a filmmaker who works with what I have to tell stories, and seeing you go through this process gives me ideas on how to improve my films until I can get someone to do a real score. Thanks for this.
Thanks for your posts. Amazing work, and very insightful when it comes to deciding on my first Orchestra Library. And I don't want to sound like a hater, but the final playback seems to be in mono :( Would love to hear it in stereo!
Amazing job man - can definitely hear some Radiohead influence in that main motif that comes through more clearly in the naked piano part around 56mins for sure - that’s never a bad thing though. 😜 It’d be great to see you do a post talk through/ breakdown of parts of the process here so you’re not having to think about explaining why, how and what when you’re in the creative zone and under a hectic time restraint! Will definitely watch more of your content - impressive!
I'm so pleased I've found this channel. This is wonderful. Thank you!
Great work dan! You've definetely give me some ideas for my score ^^ Btw I would absolutely watch your livestreams on twitch etc.
Oh my god this was AMAZING. I got chills so many times, your talent is incredible and your score was absolutely exceptional. You are so so so very talented, and please make more of these! I subbed!! 😁
This is REALLY cool! And like that you used Spring as the film :D
"Envy is the sincerest form of recognition." - Wilhelm Busch.
So I think I hate this guy...
Haha! Let it out!
😘
It was amazing watching you create that! I’m impressed with your talent and stamina. Working against the clock like that adds stress to the creative process. Thanks for sharing your process.
Thank you very much Dan for this video! Very informative and helpful! Great composition, I love it! I think it really serves the narrative of the movie...
That really was brilliant and amazingly enjoyable to watch!
just woaw and the animation and the performance, thx for sharing the way to do it, 🙂
I wish I knew about this contest earlier... I would've had so much fin doing this. Great job on this entry!!!
It's pretty amazing how you managed to score several minutes worth of film in just one hour, but at the same time you can really tell this was, well, scored in an hour! Several key moments in the story aren't marked at all by the music, and in general it feels kind paper thin, if that makes sense. I mean, still a ridiculously good job for an hour's worth of work (like, truly nuts). But I also walked away from this realizing just how much time and effort one needs to really knock it out of the park.
Thanks for your thoughts, Peter. The most important thing for me was to share a good cause
@@DanKeenMusic Yep, and I can only imagine what you'd do with a full week on this thing.
So inspiring! Learning so much from watching this! So smart to re use the intro! Both for the listiner to feel the sense of familiarity and also as a time saver!
Wipe the sweat off your brow and enjoy a cold beverage, you did it! Thanks for sharing your effort with us, it's great to get insight into how someone else works. One takeaway I have is that having good keyboard chops definitely makes the process faster-I often have to step enter more complicated passages. No way could I have done my version of this in one hour.
I'm curious if you gave any thought to the tonality suggested by the wood block notes that are heard in the beginning? I did, and tried to use that as a home key for at least the first part of the film. Other scores submitted for the competition did not. Neither way is right or wrong, I suppose, but what are your thoughts? (Mine: when music scored over the intro clashes with those notes, I cringe :-) )
Awesome! Just amazing!
I’m learning orchestral programming these days and have a special taste for Spitfire products, and been watching a ton of videos lately.
This one is by far one of the most interesting of all. Not a single moment of boredom my friend, watched the whole thing in one sitting.
Thank you so very much
Oh. My. God. This is the most interesting and exciting thing I‘ve ever watched in my life! I want to be your student, for real!
Some gems in this video! Thanks
Really enjoyed this one! You’re an amazing musician... Don’t know if you ‘have’ to do this sort of thing in a livestream, since this is more or less the same... But keep going! Very inspirational 😉
Thanks, Kobe, you're too kind! I only mention livestreams as viewers can interact with me and have an effect on what happens next in the piece, but not for everyone
What an undertaking! Nice work and bravery. I've got a question for you Dan Keen, regarding your prep to create the tempo track - I see this time you mapped the whole tempo track first before setting any music, is this your usual practice? I generally will start at the beginning and set the tempo for the first few sections and start tracking it and then continue to map the tempo as I work through the piece. I like to see how the tempo works with the specific parts I'm writing as I go but I can see that in a time crunch it may be beneficial to map the thing first and just stick to it. One needs some constraints after all, or it is too easy to get sidetracked and never finish!
Livestream or not - keep 'em coming!!! G R E A T !
This is Awesome! Thanks for putting this together Dan :D
You're awesome ❤️
EXCELLENT JOB, Dan! Thanks for this video and all of the libraries that you used to create this track! I learned a lot from watching you work.
That was great Dan! I enjoyed both the video and the result.
Thanks so much!
Absolutely great. Thanks
Brilliant! A very brave thing to do and done so well! This competition has been invaluable in seeing how so many different people can interpret and approach film scoring in so many different ways. As someone who's just starting to get back into this, I would love to see more of how you would finalise your mixing and (maybe) mastering ready to present. You did touch on it in this, but would be great to see in more detail as that was the most time consuming bit for me. Thanks for the video!
Oh man. That was wonderful.
Well done! congratz
I love everything about this
Brilliant!
I can't listen. LOL. I hope to enter and don't want to be influenced by any entries. Good luck man!
Haha, thanks mate! Looking forward to watching your score!
@@DanKeenMusic no problem. Thank you too!! I need to lock in with it one day. Before the deadline. LOL.
There's still time!
This was incredible to watch. I wish more people would just show their unedited work flow.
Amazing demonstration of making an epic score in 1 hour. Very inspiring!
Working on my score to submit by tonight. Thanks so much for taking the time to go through your work flow. Excellent!
same here. just started! haha
Amazing work! For being on a tight deadline you did an amazing job! Beautiful composition
"Sorry if this is boring" Bro you're a beast. Don't ever say that.
Compose your entry in an hour. You are a brave young man Dan (Doffs cap) - it took me two days! I take two lessons from this episode - (a) I need to improve my keyboard skills if I am to write quicker and (b) I'm glad I do this as a hobby where time limits are not critical to putting food on the table.
Really interesting to see how people approach this wonderful short film. One thing I would be grateful if you could help me with - when playing the ostinatos for the winds and brass - how do you work out when the player needs to take a breath? and how long is the breath? (I've tried breathing as I play but I'm not a wind/brass player so I'm not sure how long they are able to play.)
Well done Dan!
Thanks, Bob! Fortunately, time constraints like this are rare for my work, but I learn a lot about myself and areas of improvement I need to make when watching frantic writing sessions like this back so I like the challenge! I'd practise by singing the parts rather than breathing and that will be a good indication for you. There's a resistance in playing wind instruments so your breaths may run out more quickly than players' would, plus their lung capacities will have increased while learning their instruments over many years. You want it to be as musical as possible, so I'd rather write in more rests than necessary so they don't have to snatch breaths at awkward times
@@DanKeenMusic Thanks for the advice Dan - I'll try that.
Astonishing!!! Subscribed.... Such a talented man!
Turned out awesome dude. Super cool to see you work it in real time
Thank you for this! You make it look so easy. Very interesting to have an insight into your creative process. Great concept. Looking forward to seeing more!
Thanks Dan for the video. I am trying to learn the craft and it would be cool if you could go into more depth in how you spot the video and what make you to change tempo and where. Also on how to create nice transitions between different cuts. Thanks
Hi Attila, thanks for the suggestion!
wow! superb! thank you so much!
I enjoyed that and got some definite Radiohead 'Pyramid Song' vibes at the end there. I wish I had set myself a 1 hour challenge rather than the do it slowly over several days challenge!
Or Shawshank Redemption 😊
This is awesome. Thank you for sharing with us. I was wondering if you could tell me how you started getting into this kind of work. Did you go to school or self-taught or online courses? I have always been interested in film scoring and hope someday to get into it.
Great job Dan... so pleased I didnt watch before uploading and completing my own effort ;) Not sure I'd have ever felt confident enough to press that upload button. It was really interesting to see how you approached each segment. I tend to start with a piano improvisation but will perhaps start to rethink my approach... thanks again!
Thanks, Mike! I look forward to watching your score!
this is amazing oh my god!! So for the whole composition he's slowly filling in the chords with different instruments? I heard a d major in there, every instrument used is a different note in d major?
any help would be appreciated thanks!
This is FANTASTIC thanks so much Dan for letting us into how you work. Really enjoyed it!
Thank you, Peta! Really pleased you enjoyed this very exposing film!
This is just amazing, really helpful and inspiring, thank you so much for sharing Dan!
Thanks, Fabrizio! So pleased you enjoyed
This is amazing. Congratulations for such an impressive masterpiece!
Thank you for making such an amazing and detailed tutorial on scoring.
Masterfully done
Great performance. Keep going and shine bright 👌😎
I love the compression chain you showed off at the end, I'll definitely try that!
Thanks mate. As Graham Cochrane says, "compression is really just a smart volume fader" so a lot of riding issues can be solved with a bit of side chain!
I really like, that movie with the original soundtrack, and with yours as well!
Wonderful! Very helpful and inspiring. Thank you, Dan. :) !
Incredibly helpful mate! A livestream would be very welcome. I’m in Australia so unsure if time difference will mean I miss it but I’d definitely tune in to watch the video afterwards :)