The Problem with Rebooting Ghostbusters
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- The new Ghostbusters movie is finally here and I have some shit to say about it. Please leave a comment with your thoughts on the film or reboots in general. Please don't leave a comment if you're a sexist dickhead. Cheers.
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I'm 8.17 in and I'm getting emotional about a sequel of a film that I haven't seen that doesn't even exist
don't worry dodie me too
same tbh
aw, Dodie!
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same hahaha
How about instead of giving women strong roles already played by men, we give women strong female roles which were written for women??
Thank you!
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both? I think something to think about is that if it is a really well written character, the gender of said character dose not really matter. That being said, i am certainly all for better written origonal female characters!
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How about instead of giving women strong roles in movies we give women strong roles in real life?
Roles which offer danger, risk, violence, injury and death. Roles which we currently only give to men, which is why 95% of workplace deaths are men. Basically, roles which are naturally exciting to watch when re-enacted in movies.
Then we can make movies about these real life women, and we can enjoy watching female actresses pretend to be real women doing dangerous risky stuff and probably getting injured or killed along the way, like a man.
At the moment we have female actresses pretending to be women who do not really exist in real life.
Or alternatively... we could carry on pushing men into all of those dangerous jobs, while letting women do jobs in environments which are as safe and comfortable as the kitchen (such as the modern office environment) .... but in movies we can still demand 'gender equality' and 'equal representation', even though we demand the opposite in real life. Have cake and eat it! :)
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if someone takes all your ideas and re-reboots Ghostbusters in 10 years; I'd actually watch that
I hope that person in 10 years is Hazel directing her own Hollywood sequel! It sounds so watchable a loveable!
Abigail Spear Soprano same tbh
So I'm pretty sure that's an owl pillow behind you, but unfocused it sort of looks like a maniacal Spongebob.
I'm getting that a lot
This wasn't the point but your eyeliner skills have IMPROVED
I was thinking that ^-^
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+candycain OH MY GOD YOUR A NERDFIGHTER TOO!!!!!
+The Sexy Alpaca yup!!
You should definitely do more film reviews! This one showed how clearly you can explain and critique a film while addressing both pros and cons. It's great to hear a film maker really analyze a movie, not just talk about how great it is
Thanks Ella, lovely comment :)
Random: I spent most of the video thinking that the front pillow in the background was a creepy Spongebob pillow. Until near the end that I realized that it is actually an owl... anyway! I loved this. You have such a great way of analyzing things as well as a great skill of conveying your thoughts to your audience. It really made me think. Love it!
I definitely thought it was actually Spongebob until I read your comment and looked again...
oh my god sameee
God I thought it was superhero spongebob. Argh!
I don't see scary spongebob 😕
It literally took me 5 min to see the owl
You should have been the director for the new Ghostbusters :)
If only time weren't linear...
+ChewingSand you should do some sort of short film or documentary or something on your channel though you would be great at it... and definitely more film reviews 😄
1. I like your eyeliner.
2. I like your pillow that sort of reminds me of sponge bob.
3. I like this video because of a lot of reasons including the two I've listed.
Hahaha, me too!
IKR She's a dreambooat! *Daydreams*
I'd love some kind of genre review/ recommendation, as in you'd have a genre say 'fantasy' and name some of your favourite films within this genre and give your opinion. X
Or instead of genres different film franchise like Star Wars or Harry Potter or something. X
That sounds great! Hope she sees this!
Yes!
Didn't they reboot a live action Beauty & theBeast and apparently similar plans are afoot with The Little Mermaid. Seems a pattern with Disney
little mermaid won't be the disney version
+Mandy S good to know. Thanks.
Ihaven't heard of a live-action beauty and the beast but the live-action Cinderella was spectacular
+Maria Grant haven't seen either. Emma Watson plays Belle
yeah, they did all the gruesome cinderella stuff in into the woods
I dislike the gender swap because it just feels like women are playing second fiddle or getting the leftovers from men, rather than having a strong film of their own original property.
david's head would you say this about Jurassic World. I think you're trying to get offended
"Who are they gonna call? Not the fucking ghostbusters"
Love it 😂
We're probably going to disagree which is fine, but considering the lack of representation in film I'd say replacing a male cast with a female cast is enough of a change for a reboot. I can see the problems with having made it a reboot instead of a sequel (breaking the fourth wall in a bad way, etc.), but it doesn't really bother me, and I like that this squad of Ghostbusters formed on their own accord instead of through some kind of familial tie to the business. (But I'm not disagreeing that bigger character arcs would make it better. I'm just tired of female stories tied to family.)
I agree with you that I want to see a group of characters like this, a great group of female actresses like this, in other stories. Please, give me anything! It's unfortunate, like you said, that they were set up for failure by being put in a Ghostbusters reboot, but since it's already done and made, I really want to support this film. Because I don't have much of a reason not to.
Ran out of space in my first comment -- just want to add (and this observation isn't necessarily directed at you, I just feel safe saying this here since you're not a whiny pissbaby man complaining about the women), but a lot of people who enjoyed the original Ghostbusters saw it when they were young, when they were still in the absorption stage and not yet in the critical-thinking stage. This Ghostbusters wasn't great, but... neither was the first one....
Anyway, thank you for the well thought out video. It was a refreshing change from all the blind rage.
Well said. A lot of the points Hazel made were misguided or lifted off of several articles I've read about the movie. Hopefully she can provide her own thoughts, I don't like her take on how the movie should have been: when you make a big movie you expect lots of eyes on the screen. Making a sequel alienates a good part of the audience who frankly does not care for the original.
Such lovely, rational comments :) Thank you for taking the time to leave them. And I totally see where you're coming from.
None of my points were "lifted off" anything else. I saw the film and I formed an opinion.
please give us straight up film reviews. i'd love to hear your opinions.
I personally thought it was really funny and well done and replacing the characters with females gave girls a strong female lead and I can't see how that can be a bad thing and it was a wonderful film
I don't think it was done just to have a female lead it's a good film and gives it a modern twist
I have no issue with female characters but the film tried too hard to be like 'yeah only girls are competant fuck men' to the level of being obnoxious. It's like an artist who's like 'I tried this new style, all other styles suck, you are all scum'. A mixed cast would be better.
Also the film didn't need to be made. it wasn't a continuation of the story, it was a reboot to make more money. the original Ghostbusters is still there, it's not like the film has to be recreated from scratch because it was 'lost'. Hollywood needs more new ideas and this system of working on nostalgia as a cash cow is toxic and stifles any originality in Western film-making.
If you found the film good though, that's fine! I respect your view. I just politely disagree.
Yeah I totally agree, I loved it! Laughed so much & I thought it was a great reboot
Imho it's humor fell very flat, and was filled with boring jokes. It was a remake that didn't need to be done. I'm just tired with all the remakes of movies that were already good. When Hollywood remakes a crappy movie with a cool storyline, I'll be happy.
+Madison Johnson and I wouldn't say it was near good tbh
i think you're thinking about the film too much from an artistic perspective. which in itself isn't a problem, but it's worth baring in mind that i think a big part of why this movie was made is representation. which in some cases does justify a reboot. having female ghostbusters has given young girls a new brand of role models and they obviously really enjoy it. movies are art. and when something is art, it has cultural impact and significance. since this is a factor, you have to take into consideration how this piece of art affects society generally.
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eviemay i guess i used the term artistic to best describe where my thoughts were in terms of hazel over-prioritising cinematic quality and literal artistry and all that. which i would agree are highly important elements of film, it's just being the social justice-y person that i am, think that creating a movie for social equality reasons is a good reason to do so. of course ideally a film will have both artistry and fair representation and positive ideals, and i am a huge appreciator of artistic film, i just think that with ghostbusters specifically, there was a clear goal with that film, and i'm a fan of that goal. i hope i'm making any sense lmao
RachelKatWalsh yeah dw , you're making sense
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They could have just done something totally original. This would have been even better because the film would stand alone, and not get the backlash from being associated to an already established brand and rebooting a beloved classic that did not need a total reboot or reimagining whatsoever.
The new generation this seems to be intended for is not really familiar with it anyway. It is clear the only reason they went with the ghostbusters name was just to make money of the people that are familiar with the original, but it totally backfired with its fake and try to hard attempt of reaching nostalgia.
I love the way your mind works and how you can so clearly envisage how you would have done it differently. Loved this video!!!
If it was going to be a reboot it was good that they switched genders. Its better than, idk say, 2 reboots of spiderman with a different white peter parker.... :-)
No, it's implying that females can't have strong leads without them depending on previously established male leads :^]
+no hecks given true and as Hazel said they were set up for failure , ahhhh
Peter Parker is white though...I've no problem with a Black Spiderman but you can't have Peter Parker be under the mask and suddenly be black that's crazy.
As I said, I have no problem with a Black Spiderman. Miles Morales is Hispanic and he's a fantastic Spiderman. I just don't like changing core elements of any old character like that. This isn't a racist thing please please don't think that that I can't stress that enough, I think it'd be just as bad if they Made Miles Morales white. The Superhero (Spiderman, Iron Man etc.) themselves can be be any race or even Gender under the mask (With exception of probably Black Panther, you can't have a white guy as Black Panther because he has to be an African King) but the characters themselves, Parker/Morales/Steve Rogers, should stay as they were first written in terms of core elements. Personality can change, certain aspects of the look can change, but for me I just don't think anything else should be.
PS. Please Please don't take this as me being racist, That's really truly not where this comes from :)
Donald4Spiderman
I'll leave a more on-topic response when I have watched the video, however, at this moment I must say; you look absolutely fierce in this video. I'm not sure quite what it is, but you very much give off the vibe that you mean business, and you look fucking great
I agree with a lot of what you said here, there wasn't much need for a Ghostbusters reboot. I feel the movie execs knew that they would get a lot of money from remaking it with a female cast and be able to get away with not really making it that unique, as we as a society are very hard done by on the aspect of strong female leads. I also personally was put off by the woman of colour (not sure of her name) who, in the trailer at least, seemed to take on the stereotypical role of "independent sassy black woman".
Firstly, thank you. I'll try to look like I mean business more often :) And secondly, I totally agree. It would have been a whole other topic to add to an already long video but the racial stereotype wasn't great. I'd have much preferred to see her as one of the scientists instead of the "street smart black woman". That said, she played the character brilliantly and was hilarious throughout.
I think one character being the daughter of a ghostbuster would work, but I think two would just be silly, just because it would lend to the idea that the scientists were only influenced by men/emotional connection to become scientists. I think the original ghostbusters could hold auditions or interviews to find a new team maybe? But yeah, I get your points
i honestly really enjoyed it. i went in very sceptical, and as a massive fan of the old one, i know it backwards and forwards, and i honestly do not understand all the hate it's getting. i will admit that it wasn't 100% necessary, but it was pretty good? the acting was good, they definitely cast the right actors for the reboot. i didn't love all the cameos and some of it was a little dull, and it sure is different but the hate seriously isn't necessary. the special effects were good with the same old school touch as the original, and there were some casual nods to some iconic scenes (like the tablecloth) and as a reboot, it's not terrible. im still a bigger fan of the original movie and original theme song but it definitely wasn't absolutely shit.
agreed
Of course you enjoyed it. You're a woman. It must be great watching women kill the bad guy by shooting him in the bollocks.
dtz1000 My brothers enjoyed that too. By jove! they must be trans women then! there's no way a man could enjoy this movie, good god!!!!
There's also the fact that they abandon their own movie logic. "We have to capture ghosts" and then they start shooting, punching, and stabbing them like that makes sense? You broke your own rule!
Also I think Bill and co would regret handing over the mantle the moment they shoot the final ghost in the dick out of some dumb articulation of "yeah women!" that permeates throughout and does more harm than good.
First point: there's no contradiction. They use the proton packs and traps to capture ghosts, they use the sidearms to destroy them. Different weapons with different properties. You can think it's stupid, but it's not inconsistent.
Second point: It wasn't sexist. It was a guy getting hit in the balls joke. It was immature and not that funny, but it wasn't some attack on masculinity. It was a dumb joke about being hit in the balls.
+RunDoubleRun It is inconsistent, or at least poorly explained. They introduce technology that is specifically designed to capture ghosts and then break that rule later on. Plus they shouldn't be able to kill ghosts since they're already dead! The main reason the new film is seen as non-progressive and sexist is because all the men in this movie are awful characters, which is such a shame as the 1984 movie had great male and female characters.
they had to capture them at first to STUDY them and gain credibility as scientists, but had to kill them later to SAVE the CITY. honestly its not that hard to understand
Exactly. It's one thing when you have to suspend disbelief to go along with a movie, but when that movie steps on it's own premises, it leaves that world with no gravity; so to speak. It was established from the beginning that the proton lasers only hold ghost in place; but they're in this movie shooting ghost like it's Stawar's lasers, and turning the phasers to blast, and blowing ghost away like it's Star Trek. The movie is supposed to make jokes, not be a joke.
You are actually making a very valid point here. People like you should be making more of these sequel/reboots. So many better ideas. Don't get me wrong ghostbusters is an amazing franchise but they could've gone round remaking it a completely way. Hazel for director!!!
I think there is something very valuable about rebooting the film with all women. It was amazing, I had never really seen women portrayed the way they were. They were the creators- no ties to men that had done it first or carrying a legacy or anything. And I understand it could have been almost as empowering while maintaining continuity, but I value having the women be the pioneers, the ones that were nay-sayed and met with hate and fear and people who doubted them their whole lives. The character arcs were simple but I thought they were important and powerful- Kristen Wiig's character learns to stop pushing away what she loves and values for the sake of other people's approval, true friendship wins, and they get to help people and make the world better (like Leslie's character and how much you can see she wants to spread happiness and good will in the beginning, and despite her fear of the supernatural and not being a scientist, she joins them in saving the world). Overall I fell in love with it and I know it wasn't cinematically brilliant but it had heart and it was so inspiring to see these women of different shapes and sizes, not sexualized, and allowed to be all these things I hadn't ever really seen women be in hollywood be.
"They were the creators- no ties to men that had done it first or carrying a legacy or anything."
The problem with that is that we, the audience, know that men _did_ do it first.
Yeah, and then we said "but you know what, we're going to ignore that", rebooted the series and made women the creators
if you don't like reboots, you must really dislike the Spiderman films
Don't get me started. Although, I don't mind a good reboot. Nolan's Batman trilogy for example is a great example.
+ChewingSand please make more reviews, I love when you make videos like these and I really do appreciate the way you critic and analyse films and stories!
1. Ur eyeliner is sharp af
2. Would definitely watch film reviews by u
and 3. I would definitely watch your version and probably would cry in the process
Dear Hazel. Please direct this version. Because everything you just said is literally everything I wanted from this new Ghostbusters movie. Thank you for getting film so completely. It's a pleasure to watch you talk about film.
Side note: your wings are perfection.
Okay so why didn't you direct the new ghost busters movie
I'm not entirely sure...
they rebooted it to show that women can star in a huge lovable classic film without playing stereotypical female characters. they broke so many gender roles and stereotypes in this movie with four badass girls doing gore comedy and straying far away from the hollywood prototype of female protagonists. this film was a masterpiece
no because there was a sassy black woman stereotype and so many boob jokes
Crazy fact regarding the original _Planet of the Apes_. It won an academy award for best special effects for the ape makeup used, beating out 2001: A Space Odyssey. Which film aged better? You decide.
Damn, Hazel you should have directed it yourself! I'd definitely pay to watch what you described when saying what it should have been like!
yes yes yes yes yes! thank you so much! I have been called every name in the book for not wanting this movie! it's not because it's women doing the film it's because no one wanted a REMAKE! I was so excited at first because I thought it was going to be a sequel and when I found out it wasn't I was like why, why would you put brilliant female actors with their own comedic personalities in a film and make them act like the guys in the original? it makes no sense!! i wanted something new like you said! and because it isn't I refuse to see it because it feels like they are replacing such a true classic film!!
That's a good point too, why force the women to try to live up to the men instead of letting them do their own thing?
A bit late but god I need Hazel to make this ghostbusters sequel!!!!!!!
Is this weird? You kind of look like my stepmum with better hair and mascara
I'll take it!
Hi Hazel! The original intention was something along the same lines of what you suggested, but it was impossible due to the original actors lack of interest. The original cast didn't want to do anything more than a cameo, and even then Bill Murray didn't agree to do it until they were doing reshoots. After the first trailer premiered, apparently a massive amount of things were changed causing a huge amount of upheaval overall with the film. I completely agree with the plot holes, and that the ending is a bit of a mess. It seemed liked it lacked the heart of the original. I believe that Melissa McCarthy and Kristen Wiig have expressed interest in writing a sequel, which I think would work amazingly! I'd love to see some more film reviews as well! 💕
Oh dear, that's too bad! Hope they can get the sequel right!
It's a shame the original cast didn't want anything to do with it, but perhaps that should have been an indicator that it shouldn't have been made...
That is really interesting George, thanks for the info. I know sometimes things just don't work out in Hollywood. I get it. And I'd definitely be keen for them to write the sequel.
I liked it. I liked that it took the ideas of the original and made it their own. It was funny, women were portrayed as smart and they kicked ass. In the end, it's a movie. And a summer comedy at that. It's for fun. I don't go see movies like Ghostbusters and think it's going to change the world. It's not Schindler's List. I also enjoy reboots. Gives good characters/stories a way to 'upgrade' things like effects and bring it to a new generation. TMNT are back and no one threw a fit about that.
hazel - i love videos in which you discuss the film industry, reviews or otherwise. you have very clear and interesting opinions and, watching your videos, i am learning to better appreciate and understand the film industry and grow my own opinions about it and discuss it more clearly and confidently.
I like your ideas, and I can see what you're saying, but the problem with making them daughters is that then instead of them being somebody, they become somebody's ( as in somebody's mother, or daughter, or sister, or girlfriend, or wife ) and then the attention will go back to the other person. Perhaps they should have rebooted an entirely different film instead, so that we didn't have the issue of strange plot holes, or just poorly done films. I'm still glad that the movie was done despite this, because it's about damn time we tried to show some representation. Interesting ideas though, I can understand where you're coming from.
HUh?? Everybody is somebody's something. It's kind of impossible not to be.
No, you can be someone's daughter without becoming less than your parent. In this case the parents were crackpots, so you do not have to make such a stretch to make the daughters better than the parents.
What you cannot do is make this film about feminism and then fail to give the women a decent script. Most people who liked the film saw it as a remake of Bridesmaids, so I will not even try to make my own opinion about it. If I ever decide to put my money in the box office, it will be to watch Bridesmaids.
Cool to see you getting your Landis style movie pitching going. More thoughts on films would be awesome :)
You can tell I've been watching him a lot :)
He's a great watch, and the style suits you
This video is the equivalent of reading fan fiction that turns out to be better than the original work
It's just shit because they decided to make a film with a legacy and completely throw it out of the way.
Also, being against this film isn't sexist.
nobody said it was sexist to dislike the movie, the problem is with people being against the movie *because* the cast is women
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+The Geekinator source?
+The Geekinator yeah, no, gonna need more of a source than that
The problem I have with this movie is not that they replaced all the men with women but that they did this for NO GOOD REASON. The hype and therefor the movie became all about them being women and not about any kind of a story or anything else. It was like putting these actresses under a glass cage and charging admission to come see the freak-show about "women who think they can be ghostbusters". I felt pretty sickened by the whole process of this movie and it's pre-release hype.
This is such a good video! I completely agree with your opinions and your idea sounds so much better haha. I was expecting more from the Ghostbusters reboot but I don't think it offered much. There wasn't much depth for it as a female reboot, it was simple and they needed to flesh it out more! I mean I still enjoyed it, because it was a fun film, but not as much as others seem to have. The actresses are amazing, so I definitely think it's down to the writing/directing.... it's not the women that are the issue. It's definitely the general filmmaking!
PLEASE DO FILM REVIEWS, I DEFFO WANNA HEAR THAT SHIZ
I love your version of the new Ghost Buster a lot more
I would like more review videos!
Could not agree more with everything you've said here! And I definitely wish you had written the film, everything you've described would have been an amazing sequel.
I'd definitely watch more film reviews Hazel, you made loads of really good points here :)
I really like these film reviews (kind of things) Hazel and would love to see more !!
Oh wow hazel kinda hoping somebody works your ghostbusters idea out because it sounds so good !
Well, Hazel, you've got it all planned out. So i guess now you'll just have to call up the ghostbuster ladies and have them over for a tipsy talk and a business meeting about doing the film right.
Hearing you talk about your ideas for a sequel made me feel like I need to start writing more. You are such a good storyteller, Hazel! 😍 Teach me your ways!!!
I look forward to seeing movies under ur name as the director.
As do I
came back to watch this again for an essay i'm writing and i'm so emotional despite having even watched the original ghostbusters yet
hi i just wanna say that you have really nice eyes. So eh yea continue with your day idk
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Omg! Holy emo trinity!
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I love hearing your opinions on films! You always have an interesting perspective and you have an amazing understanding of what makes a good film. I'd watch your film reviews/opinions any day!
I fully hear everything you're saying Hazel (and disclaimer: I haven't seen the film yet but am going to this week!) but I feel like relating female characters back to well liked male characters is a bit of a crutch and I'd personally much rather see female characters that I like independent of their relation to any previous male characters. I just feel like if they'd done it with this reboot it would've been to subdue the pissbaby "you've ruined my childhood" men and I'd rather they be upset by an all female cast than only liking them because of their relation to the old cast/characters
1. I'd love to see you do film reviews! You have my favorite insight into movies on RUclips. 2. I haven't seen the new Ghostbusters, but everything you said about reboots is incredibly spot-on and why I'm a bit reluctant to go see it. 3. OKAY, DID YOU JUST COME UP WITH THAT SEQUEL IDEA ON THE SPOT? BECAUSE IT WAS BRILLIANT!
i think i could listen to hazel talk about anything. forever. also. my favorite reboot is total recall. the cool thing about them is they were based off of a short story by philip k dick, leaving tons of room for interperetation so it doesnt really even feel like a reboot, you know?
ALSO I LOVE YOUR IDEA FOR THE SEQUEL PLS MAKE IT HAZEL
+BringOnTheRainxx3 maybe you and Jack should write it !!!! Go hazel be fierce
I love hearing your opinions on films as they are well thought out and you know what you are talking about. I'd love for you to make videos on film reviews of your favourite films or newly released films. yes I would. this is just positive reinforcement for you hazel. yes
and now i want to see a ghostbusters sequel that doesn't even exist
I can only assume they rebooted Ghostbusters in the way they did for people like me. Teenagers who are starting to get into film but have never seen the originals, so it makes more sense for me to see them start from the beginning again rather than carry on from something I never saw. They had cameos in the film from the original cast just as a nod to those who had seen the originals, but ultimately I think their intention was just to restart the films again for a modern audience - one to whom a main cast of women is a strong selling point for a film they're otherwise only vaguely aware of.
I definitely think your sequel idea is brilliant, but I think the remake was more about showing women can make their own team without needing men, it's kind of basic in terms of feminism but still, I think that's what they were going for, rather than men showing women what to do. As for the film itself, I haven't seen it so can't comment on the content.
this is my first video of yours I'm watching, I've never seen Ghostbusters or the reboot but holy shit you created such a good scenery for me when you were describing if there was a sequel, I loved this video you should make more! Also I COMPLETELY understood the Jungle book thing like just because we have technology doesn't mean it'll be better, you should direct one day, Love you Hazel!!!
I will say I loved them film and don't mind that's a reboot. However your idea about it being a sequel relating to the original film is really good but then I'm sure people would find something wrong with that film. The only thing I didn't quite get is when you said when you saw the cameos you were pulled out of the film. Actors play different characters in loads of films so does that mean every time you see Bill Murray in a film you think of Ghostbusters?
He's literally playing a Ghostbuster-buster.
(ok preface i love u and ur videos and this is in no way meant to be demeaning/belittling of that)
you brought up episode VII of star wars which was definitely a really good movie with a really smart plan to diversify the star wars universe without infringing upon the canon of the original movies. however, i think that actually only worked out successfully because of the prevalence of star wars long after they stopped making movies. the original trilogy was radically well-known, but it also spawned an entirely new trilogy, comics, multiple spinoff TV series, and overall the development of a very popular and very prevalent star wars universe. enough people from different generations are now aware of what was canon in the original trilogy and the prequels. that same familiarity just simply didn’t happen with the ghostbusters franchise. the first film was definitely a classic, and both films were popular enough to garner a significant following that is still loyal to this day. to simply make another movie in the same universe just wouldn’t do as well, because not nearly enough people are as dedicated to or interested in the original films enough to understand the nuances of plot details that would borrow from the older movies. the plot you mentioned in your video is really fun! and it’s great and it introduces the idea of all female ghostbusters really well! but i think there’s a tiny bit of a problem with making the characters the daughters of the old ghostbusters because it takes away from the idea that women can do this on their own without having to have grown up in the shadow of men. that isn’t really brought up in the new movie necessarily, but it’s important. i disagree that the sentimentality/familiarity of handing over the mantle is as important as you bring up that it is; i feel like it takes away from the fact that these are real female characters who are perfectly capable of functioning without the wisdom/guidance of Male Men who have done all this before. and again, it works in the star wars universe because enough of the audience knows the original story, and that simply doesn’t apply to as many people with the ghostbusters franchise. the element of nostalgia doesn’t work on a blockbuster level for a movie like ghostbusters 2016 simply because this movie is made to make money. it’s an unfortunate fact, but it is relevant. because they made a movie that doesn’t rely on the characters or plot of the old movies, they’re able to truly reintroduce the franchise to an entirely new generation in the hopes of replicating the familiarity that already exists in the star wars universe (albeit on a smaller scale).
wow this is long thanks for reading if u did
I'm just mad because now people are going to make sexist comments just because they made the characters female :/// (also your eyeliner is great omg)
I haven't seen Ghostbusters since I was little but now I REALLY want the movie you described please please make this Hazel somehow
I think rebooting classic movies but with female leads is a cheap way of compensating for all the sexism that's been in the film industry for generations. People should just accept the fact that there's been a lack of female leads in movies for generations and just move forward, making more films with female leads that have a fresh, new, original plot. Ghostbusters and many other movies didn't have a female leads, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need to reboot a franchise and make it less sexist. Just make new franchises in the future that have strong female characters more frequently in lead positions. Then you get new movies and less sexism. It's a win win situation.
That bit about "just accepting it happened and moving on" is something I can agree wholeheartedly with. IMO, it's the best way to try to overcome divides in history.
What a great point!
Every once in a while I always come back to this video, because the way you describe how to pay homage to the original is something 9/10 remakes still don't do. It's always been a barometer I use to assess a film now. You may not see the comment but just wanted to let you know how a video from 4 years ago is still impactful on me :)
LOVE this!
I feel like the thought process for making this film was "Why should we reboot ghostbusters....... oh yeah cash."
Yessssss yes yes. Character arcs were deff missing. Something about the daughter idea doesn't quite sit right with me- since it implies they had to have inherited these roles from men. Buuuuuuuut yes please write the next one. Did you find the editing weird? So many jokes and responses seem disjointed. Also Kirsten Wig's random bland bedroom scene??
That said it was super fun an entertaining !
whats so wrong with inheriting something from men?
wouldnt it just mean that you are perfect for the role as your dad was or something to that effect?
After just watching it, I agree that there was no need to reboot rather than be sequel. Although, I don't see a problem with woman being a ghostbusters as most may thing. Personally, good movie still wish it was a sequel to the classic.
OK. I'm glad this was brought up.
Other than the fact that this was an unnecessary reboot, I would like to come at this from another perspective. The WOC perspective - don't like it. don't read it. I don't intend to be butthurt and i'm trying to state this as objectively as I can from a perspective of a women of colour but ey.
The idea of women being the only main roles in a movie is refreshing however, this movie has easily forgotten about every other woman other than the white woman.
NOW BEFORE YOU START WITH THE "THERE'S A BLACK WOMAN IN THE CAST" SHIT. She wasn't even given the status of a scientist because god forbid right? She was a loudmouthed, street savvy black woman who bursts onto the scene because why stray from them stereotype right? If I had children, why would I want them to see this film and feel that they can be nothing but the comedic relief? Why can't they be a scientist? THEN THERE'S THE FACT that there are no other women from other races/cultures - none from the orient culture or the asian culture - NOTHING and why? because this was an excuse not to push up all women but to push up white women and not only that, but white women who are already rather established in the industry.
I'm trying to be objective and i'd love to hear anyone elses views on this but that's just how i feel in addition to the points that Hazel has pointed out.
have a splendid evenin'.
This is a good point and one I wish I'd covered now. We actually said all that when we saw the movie.
Glad I could offer another perspective :)
I for one appreciate the insight so thank you. I'm a middle-aged white guy but I love the chance to get multiple view points from multiple diverse people.
My thoughts on the subject are summed up like this; I hope for the day that we can see (in media) good, strong, smart, etc. characters/role-models who also just happen to be women or just happen to be black, or Muslim, or fill-in-the-blank.
I am happy that we are seeing more and more diverse people in major roles I just think that the idea of leading with the fact that they are diverse undermines the whole goal/point of their diversity. I dream of the day that humanity no longer needs the label of "minority" and that all people are just accepted as being wonderfully different, diverse, and unique and that those differences and uniqueness are just naturally accepted as being a part of being human.
I hope that made some kind of sense (it's still early where I'm at).
I loved this! It's always so interesting to hear your opinions on films, I'd love more film reviews!
So you just freeballed a better film than we got. Why weren't you involved.
you nailed it - the stated reason to do it as a remake instead of a follow up was that having the female characters invent the technology instead of inherit it would be "a stronger feminist message." They say this with a straight face and no sense of irony over the fact that they're using an established brand to do it.
i love you hazel!
i also would love to see more film reviews
Good to know!
I've not seen the new Ghostbusters yet, but I'm going next week. I'm intrigued. Not ruling it out yet because I've heard it's great and I've heard it's shite. I LOVED Ghostbusters as a kid, so a new one excites me, but not a reboot. Not hating the idea though but your idea though, is BRILLIANT. That's exactly what they should've done.
You forgot to say How much this movie hated Men. This movie was sexist as fuck and racist....If a Movie treated Woman like they did to men in this Movie you would have seen woman in the streets rioting! Men are made to look stupid and Evil....and I understand why! The reason this Movie hates men is that Paul Feig hates men, plan and simple. I agree with you on some parts but blatant sexism to Men or Woman is never ok! And keep the straw man fallacies out of this please if anyone comments back!
Now I don't watch reviews. But when I do, it's going to be coming from you. That story you just made up about the characters' daughters, that kind of sequel, totally blew me away and I agree 100%. Hazel, I love what you do and I admire your passion for directing, and I would like to see more of these movie reviews!
I loved listening to you talk about how you would have done it!!! It sounded amazing haha
I was SO interested in your rendition of the film... it definitely should've been a sequal!
damn. now i just want you to write all the films. all of the films. or at least rewrite them. it's not like the concepts of character arcs and strong plots are revolutionary, but they're rarely utilised in a lot of stories. and you just get it. also, you fuel my love for writing and film and inspire me to keep creating and moving forward, so thank you.
i have to say I am SO glad they weren't their daughters, I like that they were into science and ghosts on their own, not bc they were sort of "taught" to be (specially by male role models). But the characters and story def needed way more development, even if they weren't related to the previous GB'S
I'd love for you to make a video about the best and worst film reboots, or about which sequels were better or worse than the first movie. I think you talk about this subject really well with a lot of good insight and its super interesting - would love to see more!
I'll be honest, I preferred this one to the original (although that could be the generational gap in the sense that I won't get some of 80s comedy because I simply wasn't around then). It was just really funny and kick ass and a beautiful movie in terms of the colours and the shooting of it. I completely understand what you're saying in the sense that there didn't need to be a reboot and the premise seemed a little pointless for for the lack of a better word, but even with all of that I completely loved it
I was hesitant about this video after seeing so many positive reviews for the film since it was released, but I loved your perspective and the arguments you made.
Definitely wish I could see your version of Ghostbusters.
Also have to add that I would love to see you post film reviews/more film-related content!
This has nothing to do with anything but I can't stop looking at your eyeliner... it's GLORIOUS!
YES HAZEL! Completely took the words out of my mouth. They really should have consulted you on the reboot, cause I would watch it in a heartbeat. And I would love to see more film reviews on this channel. I really love getting to hear your thoughts and getting a different perspective that I may not have even thought of about different films.
Hazel, I would love to see you do more film reviews on the channel. The way you give your reviews are detailed and truthful without being too in your face. You talk through both what you liked and didn't like instead of just slamming it or singing its praises. I found this video really interesting (to be frank I find all your videos interesting I cry at Time of the Month and laugh at Tispy talks) but I personally would be interested in seeing you do reviews if you wanted to :)
My problem with the reboot is not that they switched males with females, it's that they used the wrong actresses to do the roles.
Melissa McCartney, Really?
I rewatched the original Ghostbusters after seeing the new one, and the new one is much better and more polished and smooth in terms of effects (obviously) but also in cohesive storyline. I think creators can create/redo/reboot whatever they want and if both are good they will be able to both stand as important parts of the culture.
Also, I think that it was great that new Ghostbusters had the interactions with the mayor and people treating them like "ghost girls" because how the original movie had the whole city fawning over the Ghostbusters was a bit too hard to suspend disbelief and accept fully. Also, the interaction of modern technology with the ghosts and the women's lives was great new territory to explore.
TLDR: Totally disagree with you, but hey, that's what makes the world great.
I'd actually quite like to see film reviews from you Hazel. Also I get what you mean by remaking the same film without changing anything. The remake of Rocky Horror doesn't look as good as the original and there's literally nothing different apart from the cast :(
I never thought about the new Ghostbusters this way. Your idea sounds incredible, honestly - I wish I could go see that instead of the actual movie. I haven't seen the movie, but it seems that the cast is the fun part, so I think I will go see it solely because of that.
You're so intelligent and I'd love to hear your thoughts on other movies as well! ♥
A.) I think your ideas are fantastic, and you should definitely get into film making.
B.) I do agree when you say that Ghostbusters didn't need a reboot, I hadn't really though of that before watching.
C.) I personally don't really care whether or not it was necessary, as I enjoyed the film, but you brought up some great points when it comes to creating sequels and reboots.
Great vid Hazel, as always.
Hazel I thought this was a very well thought out video and it made so many great points, I am curious about your opinion on an idea I had. It seems really often in film, male actors/directors/writers get the opportunities to make truly horrible films simply because of who they are. They are 'insert famous name', so their projects are greenlit, and if the film fails, those men tend to not have that stigma of a 'bad film' follow them throughout their career. Whereas here, I feel like these women also had the opportunity to make something simply because of their fame/prestige, regardless of if the film was a great idea or not. For me I think they should have the same right to fail? Let the film fail if it's going to fail, but they shouldn't be receiving the backlash that they are because it feels like so much of it is just because they are women. I hope that makes sense, I'd love to hear your opinion.
I loooove listening to you talk about films! Your passion is amazing and I would love to see more film reviews or videos about specific topics addresses in films.
How you could so easily makeup and figure out how a successful film would work out really shows how talented you are, thank you Hazel for allowing us to really see your talent 💕