Why American farmers are throwing out tons of milk
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- The coronavirus supply chain problem, explained through milk.
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Coronavirus continues to infect nearly every aspect of American life - on US farms, it’s led to the widespread destruction of fresh food. Take milk, for example. Dairy farmers across the country have dumped millions of gallons of fresh milk. This, at a time when millions of Americans are dealing with food insecurity. Since so many schools and businesses are now closed, dairy farmers have nowhere to direct those products. Check out the video above to learn more about this break in the food supply chain, and why it’s not easy to redirect supply that was going to schools and businesses to consumers or food banks instead.
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It's finally the time to cry over spilled milk.
Brilliant
You’re a genius
:o
*21st Century Humor*
Underrated comment
This reveals a much larger problem: An inconceivable amount of food is wasted everywhere. This crisis just reavls the top of the iceberg.
Absolutely. And man made. Deliberately done by an international government.
The solution would be to go back to small supply chains. People would rely more on local farmers rather than factory farming
Food is wasted while people go hungry
@Allan Reford It also has nothing to do with capitalism.
No industry is designed to deal with a global quarantine, its also impossible.
The crisis has revealed many many things that's wrong with society.
It pains to see this enormous amount of food wastage while so many people suffer starvation...
It brings me joy tbh lol
Boominaughty are you ok in head
Boominaughty you ok? mentally?
It pains me to see millions of cows being tortured for nothing.
@@boominaughty9531 Imagine your family was starving would u still be laughing
As a person living in a third world country, the amount of food wasted is triggering me so much.
it would be so nice if they could send it to less rich countries but everything in this world is a money issue.
ophelia_n1 how do you get it to them
twitch moments the same we’ve been transporting foods across the world for decades.
Philippines disposed the carrots they grew. No one's transporting them, and they are spoiling. And locals aren't going to eat that much carrots.
Milk is like literally the last thing you'd send to starving people. It spoils extremely quickly, has to be refrigerated, and most people are lactose intolerant as it is.
"You can't deliver a 500 lb barrel to someone's house and say 'here's your cheese'"
Try me.
Make this a meme pls
And send us that link.
Right, give me the 500 pounds
Yes, what I was thinking. Give it to me.
Well u only have to pay the delivery costs...
This virus has exposed the major problem of the hyperspecialization and focusing on efficiency to our economy: it works great in ideal conditions, but one major shock to the system and it collapses. I hope this crisis creates a movement within the business world towards resilient systems and not just efficient systems.
Yeah ..but this type of crisis happens once in a century. That isn't enough for them to change their entire system.
Focusing on efficiency helps them reduce the cost and until consumers are gonna be price sensitive they're not gonna do much to change it
@@hijack69 Once is enough to destroy a nation's economy permanently. That is no excuse to not be resilient
Won't happen as long as the money printing and cash giveaways continue to support the status quo. Federal government is essentially a form of reinsurance for most large industries to continue doing what they have always done.
The problem is that only way to gain from added security is to go trough a crisis. And that doesn't make a sustainable business model.
This isn't just a coronavirus which brings these problems up. The supply chains are so optimised and play with such volume, that most every so often waste unimaginable amount of resources because it is more profitable on expected variance than always having some redundancy. Keyword: more profitable, not more logical.
Because capitalists don't invest on a 50 or even 30 year expectations, as they don't need to commit to a single investment; they can have risks such as imaginable waste of products happen every so often, and even if worst comes to worst they already made a profit and can liquify the rest and move on.
An economic system were the only reason to produce is to sell for profits, and not to meet the needs of the people will always be irrational; this is the same thing with housing, there are more vacant houses than homeless people, and I am surprised people are not burning those vacant houses to keep prices up. In all, good luck supporting capitalism.
“You can’t deliver a 500 pound barrel of cheese to someone’s house and say here’s your cheese” Yes you can. I wake up everyday and pray for someone to do this
"Herea your cheese delivery sir!"
"Oh tha k you so mu-"
"Its all American cheese!"
"....send it back"
@@matthewbaker4885 bruh cheap americsn cheese is disgusting
Brilliant comment 🤣
Matthew Baker I.
i feel bad for you cause they just turned your vulnerability into a joke
We produce enough to feed this world... but distribution lacks...
Not true. We would produce enough to feed everyone if the world went vegan.
Animal farming is occupying 85% of all cultivable terrain while producing only 25% of worlds protein intake.
With only 15% of that terrain dedicated to vegetables we would end world hunger, and sustain 11 billion people.
Well. Your government is in a trade war with China.
Europe does not need any of those products and poor countries don't have the money to buy it.
Corona put the icing on the cake.
Send it to latín América
@@matteoalberghini2040 PERIOD
Matteo Alberghini veganisism is unsustainable
"You can't deliver a 500lb barrel to someone's house and be like, 'Here's your cheese.'"
I don't think he's met me...
Preach brother! 😅
4:17
😂 Same here, I've been called "Cheese Goblin"
"Not even Lactose Intolerance can stop me!"
Are you really going to pay for it?
This really shows that we have a seriously fragile supply chain system.
@Daniel Chang Not only that, but more people would suffer during a global shutdown/depression if they tried to make a more flexible industry chain. More people would lose their jobs, more people would struggle to get what they need and more businesses would struggle to stay afloat without more government support, meaning even less for unemployed...
We optimise things to make them better for everyone, more people can have jobs if more work is required, more jobs are created when specialists are needed, the economy grows stronger when supply and demand are equally higher.
the supply chain was developed by Sam Walton, why his hideous children are billionaires, not because they actually do anything themselves. It was adopted by everyone because maximization of profits, i don't think it was Sam Walton's intent for the whole country to run like Walmart, but here we are.
@@mykeh3155 Well, sorta. We do not optimize for everyone, we optimize for investors and owners. The current supply chain is great for a small number of large centralized companies and their investors, but is not that great for everyone else. It means less jobs created and more concentration of benefits in the hands of a few.
The problem with a more robust, more flexible supply chain is the wealth ends up better distributed, and the decision makers who have the cash to influence the market are not interested in that kind of outcome. Do not confuse 'good for the rich' with 'good for everyone'.
@@mykeh3155 we threw demand out the window a long time ago. supply is dictacted by the plutocrats and choice is an illusion. The rest of the world marvels at how the US has oatmeal with 100 different labels and price points and you can't get a head of chicory. White exceptionalism at its finest.
The supply that goes to schools gets rerouted every year in the summer and the school year would normally be over right now. So this video info isn't totally accurate. And businesses are mostly reopened right now so I think they made this video a month ago and are just now posting.
Schools and businesses should’ve accepted the surplus and instead of selling it, they can give it away to their community in manageable take home bundles for families that are struggling during this time the same way food banks are giving it away
Great idea.
I agree with you, but in that case, the dairy price will crash even harder. Remember Economic 101
Kyle U Volunteers? People willing to build their community
666NedFlanders why not
Kyle U unwillingness to build your community
What he meant : *ACCOUNTANT*
What he said : *MATH SCIENTIST*
or a.... mathematician
The moment the "best" and richest country has millions of people hungry, without jobs and without health insurance. That's third world problems you have there
Heck,some third world countries slove this third world problem lol
exactly! and they have the audacity to make fun of 3rd world countries who have been colonised for 200 years and been looted so much, and are still pretty powerful lol
I remember a quote:
" America is a third world country wearing a Gucci belt"
the worst is that the people in charge don't seem to really care that much... :(
some of them do but not all
Correct. The only thing first world for them is their military. Others, third world.
The food waste makes me scream
isn't capitalism great?
@@ChRis6i I like how the video says the issue is a lack of demand but somehow "capitalism bad".
@@ChRis6i yes, yes it is. Id rather have excess food than scarcity of it.
So what do you want the system to be then, an utopia is not a real thing
Juan 233 there are a lot of hungry people in America right now.
Normally they separate calfs from their mothers soon after birth so that the industry can take all the milk. A solution could be to not separate them, it benefits everyone in this situation. Cows are breed to produce a lot more milk than to just feed their calfs, so they will only drink around half of the milk that the mother cow produces. Half the milk supply and less waste. Also the baby cows gets to stay with their mother for longer
Holstein and Friesian heifers are not good mothers and their calves do not do well.
the solution is not consuming dairy
The calves still need to be taken care of, require space, vaccination, sanitation, etc. which dairy farmers are not prepared for.
I wish they included about how you can go to most local dairy farms rn and get FREE milk!
You just need to bring a container
Right! And make a donation, little bit or none, or more
Farmers or any business for that matter needs to make profit to survive. If they're going to give it for free, who's going to shoulder.their operational costs? Pay their bills, their workers?
That is very true for most places, personally buying from the source is more reliable if you're not introverted, plus most farms are really interesting places, thanks for pulling this out kind stranger!
Local being operative, the centralised, monocultures of the USA make farms less likely to be local
@@robbypatrisio9589 those costs are there whether they give milk away or not. Cows have to be milked.
This is like the food version of the American Education System...
It wasn’t designed to be flexible...
We lead the world in medicine and we have the best hospitals in the world. Education is not a problem. The food waste is
Jiggly Juice no we don’t 😅 (talking about medicine) or at least I heard it was Japan or India but yes food waste is definitely a problem
@@AlarSenpu do your research US states are at the top
Jiggly Juice i did and it said Japan so that’s why I’m confused 😓
Jiggly Juice but I mean tbf medicine is a big topic it shouldn’t really be simplified like that
It can't be a Vox's video without "but here's the thing"
Ikr😄
ey that's their catchphrase 👀
and without neoliberalism ^^
but here's the thing:- it can't be Vox without the "but here's the thing"
reminds me of "It's lou and here's the thing" from BEME
When you have food to give away but don’t even know how to give it away cause your society taught you to not just give away food
Angel E imports cost money and they also need funds to produce the milk
For years we've been hearing about how bad for the environment the cattle and dairy markets are and now this story is telling it as if its some great tragedy.
Farms always have to adapt to markets so maybe its time to diversify?
Right? The video itself shows how the industry had been on the decline
Heh cow farts
It's not about diversifying, it's that the market has literally shrunk. No matter how diverse your farm or company is if you produce too much you will simply not make enough money on the products. And yet more and more people in the US need food banks. This just shows how broken the capitalist system is when it comes to basic necessities.
@@superduperfreakyDj Sometimes things happen for a reason. Is milk something that we should be consuming in these large quantities or should it be a specialty item? People accessing food banks need a large amount of quality fruits and vegetables with a small amount of dairy.
@@teebelles921 waste is waste mate, doesn't matter if it's good or bad
The rats in the drain: **intense diarrhea**
Oh boy
Pizza rat going into withdrawal.
After seeing your profile pic i was confused for a bit
The lactose intolerant aren't affected by this news.
@@abde4645 no
When you build an economy around over consumption and over production....
as opposed to being built around too little production and consumption....?
@@thomahperin7953 are you in support of unsustainability ?
Thomah Perin No. its unsustainable.
There's no such thing as an economy without consumption
Thomah Perin the economy is a subset of the environment
Here's the *obvious* downside to the lean, "just in time" supply chain.
Supply and demand is a java virtual machine
"Not doing it for the money, that's for sure" hahahha oh boy......
Why hahaha?
Dude shut up ALL people in the world are “in for the money” they have to survive you know. If your parents weren’t “in for the money” you would live on the street.
Well they can’t stop then the cows will explode
@@banger2998 believe it or not some people choose a career they enjoy rather than a soul crushing dull job that will fill their years with meaningless depression, seems wild I know but it is a thing.
@@emmychou4790 That's not exactly true. Cows only produce milk when they have recently had a calf. By only selling milk at certain times of the year and stopping the artificial insemination process which keeps cows pregnant all the time, you could clear up a lot of these issues.
I would’ve happily bought several burlap sacks of potatoes if I lived near a potato farm.
Yeah I noticed they didn't even mention anyone just trying it and seeing what happens.
Things like the potatoes I'm sure food banks could have found ways to have collected if they had been asked too their clients probably wouldn't be able to afford the extra fuel expense but a lot of their volunteers and donors have a lot more free time than they were expecting sure one of them would be up for a drive.
Mmmm fries 🍟
at fuel price?
Milk industry - lobbying for more cheese on pizzas, more scoops on icecreams, more cream in coffees
Potato farms - lobbying for more chips with burgers, more chips less air in chips bags
Meat industry -lobbying to upgrade single burgers to double and double burgers to quadruple
Flint from cloudy with a chance of meatballs: I am proud of you guys!
Hahahaha
overprocessing of perfectly natural products thats the American way
more chips less air is a good!!!
The farm lobby is a corrupt tragedy on the modern world.
The air in the bag of chips is literally there to keep the chips from crushing each other in transit
Yemen: 👁👄👁
For anyone that doesn’t know, they’re having a bit of a food crisis at the moment.
Willy ytr I’m saving to donate, but I’m just trying to find the right website. Also, people do donate, especially during Ramadan :)
@@friendusesthisaccountnocom9928 the iranic peoples throughout iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Tajikistan also have conflicts with each other but you don't see them committing mass murder. What is wrong with you Arabs?
Hussein .S I- I’m not Arab. Also, I’m a bit confused, please can you explain a bit more?
@Willy ytr how am i being a racist?
@Willy ytr I understand where you're coming from-- it's not wise to make a group of people dependent on a donation. However, desperate times call for desperate measures. I'm not saying they should continuously donate their product, but if every dairy farmer donated one of their month's surplus, covered that transportation cost for the sake of humanity, even just one time, it would make a huge impact without breaking the farms entirely. It's not bad to support people in a crisis, especially when millions are being affected, because it likely won't reflect how their lives will be forever. It won't make them happy nor rich, but it might buy them some more time to fix their current situation or get themselves to a better situation. i.e., you could use the energy from one free meal to work more hours, work on fixing your situation, keep your children alive another day who could help with any other tasks, etc. It's not about making someone reliable-- when your friend breaks an ankle you might offer your shoulder for support until they can get to the hospital, even if it means you have to go out of your way for a little bit.
"We don't do this for the money" biggest lie I've ever heard
bc local farmers might not just want money. some of them actually care avt their job. not everything HAS to be about money. yes they profit from it, but im sure some of their goals arent just to get cash.
There shouldn’t be so much shame in that. Ya gotta pay those bills somehow.
@@leah8894 no shaming just saying
When the milk price in Germany was to low the farmers stopped selling it and bathed in it as a protest
It’s good for your skin
haha als wir noch ne butterreserve hatten lol
Big dairy corps be like "we're not in it for the money"
no she was talking about the small farmers, and they aren’t because prices are cut half they aren’t making enough
Well, farmers are in it for the money, just not the big bucks. Honestly, farmers are some of the richest people, but all their assets are in machinery, land, and livestock. An uncles friend of mine told me that he is worth at least 5 million, but he only ever has around $2000 in his back account on average. Farmers are rich, they just dont have actual dollars to spend.
bruh small farmers don’t exist to earn a living as a farmer you need at least 5 million dollars worth of equipment on loan
@@Azivegu, yes, land and assets rich, cash poor.
@@alexc5699 everyone is in for the money. always.
thats capitalism i used to work as a social worker and i was in for the money all my colleagues were in for the money everyone is and will be
Lesson of the day: Start eating big cheese
But seriously, what do we do now? I wanna help, but I dont know how
Ok but honestly if there was a restaurant that only worked with ingredients that farmers had excess of, that would reduce business costs for the restaurant while also helping the farmers. Not a bad idea.
maybe charities focused on supplying those factories with the right equipment could work
Y'all need to get together and start a Gofundme or something, this is one good frickin idea
In my country, the majority of milk is turned into powder first, and then reconstituted as needed. That turns it into a dry store product, which is much more efficient to keep, as no refrigeration is required once processed, and it can just be stored away until the market stabilises again (up until a certain point, of course).
You live in ?
Meanwhile, grocery stores have raised there prices 30%.
lol
Their*
That’s capitalism for ya
Well yeah, there is a supply shortage.
@@danny5637 I'm sure prices will go back down after the shortage...right?
I remember seeing a farmer plaque somewhere said "Despite all of our achievements, we owe it all to the fact there's 4" of dirt and it rains."
That and centuries of technological development.
ArmchairWarrior it is horribly inefficient to farm the old way in any country. To quote my high school teach “ we could pay 1000 people a good wage to dig a road with spoons. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.”. Also all of those traditional farmers are using genetically engineered crops.
Tavern Burner Using the spoon analogy doesn’t correlate well to the problems of agriculture. Both traditional and conventional have their own ups and downs. Not all traditional farmers use engineered seeds, many rely on heirloom seeds that have been selectively bred for generations (refrain from generalizing datas from information you know). Enginereed seeds aren’t bad either, we can create the traits desired in crops for just mere days than years (the testing process can take aproximately 10 years though, genomics can accelerate the time, but not much atm). Too much efficiency, fertilizer, pesticides can drain the soil and creates dust bowls (that’ll turn into desert), but it can quickly provide crops for the masses. Traditional farming might take too much space and time to grow a fraction of the conventional method, but more sustainable in the long term. Of course there are also methods in between the two, it’s not all black and white.
The more you study agriculture and its history, the more you realize it’s about “pick your poison” type of situation and less about which is better...
"drive to food bank "
imagine you own a car and you still need help .
This is very America .
Imagine you have billions of gigabytes of data in reach of your fingertips and you still manage to type uneducated comments like this. Truly remarkable.
Abby Moore well said
I have not seen such an ignorant comment yeah just blame everything on America
Especially with the ecological footprint milk has, this can't get much more sad.
This is exactly the situation the government is supposed to step in, buy up the millk, turn it into shelf stable products and distribute it.
government cheese!
won't happen it will be gasp! socialism in todays politic.
Australia creates ultra pasteurized ilk that requires no refrigeration until opened. I would do that or make cheese
BuT tHaT’s SoCiAlIsM!1! /s Honestly I am curious what you can process out of milk besides cheese and cream. What if you could add some odd coagulant to turn it into fertilizer or something else.
If anything the real socialism are government subsidies to farmers. They are not only a form of voter bribery to ensure the farmers vote, but it also leads to exactly this situation where the market fails. "I pay you to produce stuff, even if you won't find enough buyers for it!"
This leads to a question: if everyone still has access to enough food to feed themselves (obviously there are people who live below the poverty line, but I mean if that hasn't gotten any worse due to the pandemic), does that mean that all this food waste was still being wasted anyways but just at the manufacterer and consumer level?
There definitely was a food waste problem, but not in this scale. Most of milk being dumped was produced for schools and restaurants. In normal time most of it would be used.
The grocery store I worked at didn't waste very much milk at all. Milk sells at a pretty constant rate so stores tend to have that number calculated pretty well.
@@AbliusKarfax people don't stop drinking milk because they're out of school. They'll eventually if they don't have the money to pay for it. Making things in industrial scale is cheaper, but there's no flexibility in such cases. A car factory can't start making bicycles overnight, and dairy farms can't change packaging overnight as well. That's the second most important thing. And food waste has the main role. We throw in the garbage almost 45% of what we make. But these numbers are diluted through the whole chain, from the farm until it gets in our tables, so we don't see how bad it is.
Yep, pretty much
AltSysRqSync yes, I see what you mean. I just thought the following: pretend that produced milk is split between stores, schools (incl hospitals, kindergartens, etc), and restaurants as 33%/33%/33%. In normal times, some of milk is wasted in each category. Let’s say, a third (probably a bit lower). So it means: 1/3 of store-bought milk + 1/3 of school milk + 1/3 of restaurant milk is dumped. Total: 33%.
Now: all of school milk is dumped, and most of restaurant milk. So, it’s already 50% + usual food waste at households.
soo...when they setup this "highly efficient" system, noone ever stopped and thought "huh, what if one part of this system stops, and what do we do then?"
Put it simple, their food production system doesn't have the flexibility to divert the food supply
Efficient systems are also vulnerable, when everything is stretched to it limits, one tiny issue can cause a total collapse.
@minecraft creeper are you implying capitalism is an efficient system?
i living in asia... don't see the problem... let face it... usa is a fool anyhow...
@@campkira guess asians also put extra effort to make said efficiency resilient & robust against disruptions
@minecraft creeper I guess, what you are refering to is the best system? lol just because you was made to hate the name communism, unreasonable is now the best? ....
@minecraft creeper I am sorry, as you define the video as capitalism and the best system, seems like you are implying unreasonable as the best. Arguing for a system, which causes such a waste, against every law of nature and calling it the best system, creates a certain impression.
And that's how one part of the Great Depression is starting.
*The greatest depression*
Xeno Phon have you ever gone to school and learned any history?
Xia piao piao
Not Playboi Cactus
The big sad
@Xeno Phon Disagreed.
I really hope this crisis makes dairy farmers shift to something else so the cows can stop being exploited. When I saw all the milk going down the drain, I couldn't stop thinking that all their suffering was reduced to waste. This makes the exploitation worse, if that's even possible.
That's a very vegan thing to say. It's just cows.
@@DStein22 What do you mean by ''just'' cows? What do you think they are? Milk machines?
*Vegans have entered the chat*
Truuuu 😂
ppl that are lactose intolerant too bahahhaha
The Wandering Aristotle wow you’re so funny for discriminating against people who refuse to support a system responsible for leaving animals and the environment in such bad shape. bravo!
TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!! Bro I’m vegan! I just thought it was funny because I really did enter the chat! Lol
RetroGang good on you for being vegan.
If there is this amount of milk, why it's taken my dad long time to come back?
Who's gonna break it to Odin?
Anonymous not me
your adopted
Lord Odin *sNiFf*
He's just in quarantine. Will be back after corona vaccine.
Well deserved for abusing these animals.
Not all dairy farms abuses their animals ,they treat the animal with kindness and gentleness
I'll bet you've never even produced a mouthful of the food you eat & yet you feel entitled to pass judgement on those that feed you & keep you alive? Go grow all your own food for a year, THEN you get to judge
alright tree hugger
Please be a troll, please.
K G kindness and gentleness is unfortunately very difficult (impossible in some people’s opinions) to achieve in an industry like this :(
The answer my friends, is cheese. It always has been.
Throwback to the government cheese days
ya , I thought of the same but where do you store that much of cheese and you need to take care of that milk immediately cuz milk spoils fast.
Storing cheese requires climate control which complicates things more but doable.
Also where do you sell the huge amount of cheese afterwards to get a return on the storage and maintenance cost.
And I'm sure laws require you to get the process and the environment , tools inspected / approved first to sell the finished product later on .
sulizu the grocery store? food banks?
@@sulizu4572 there are MANY types of cheese my friend. Dry cheeses dont require as much if any climate control. And some form thin layers of mild over the top and can hild for years. You just break the seal over the top and its cheese time.
@@jslasher5330 say that to the lawmakers , the farmers will 100% be sued !
Best thing to do is just take a percentage and give the milk to the cheese makers , they can arrange the stuff for cheese .
EASY too , they are already liscensed and inspected and a simple contract might solve legal issues. :)
Stead of throwing tons of milk why can't donate to people who need greedy farmers.
takes too much money and infrastructure that hasnt been put in place
coronavirus disease yeah
Rather than dumping the milk, maybe they could give it to the calfs that the cow made it for?
Those calves have mostly been murdered for veal. Or taken from their mothers and enslaved to make more milk.
Already been pasteurised. The cows can’t consume it.
@@steviedavidson5130 pastuerised milk can be consumed by cows however waste milk can not be fed because of potential pathogens.
Too bad they turn the baby calves into veal....🤮🤮🤮
Inferno Tube no they can’t consume it because the system immediately turns baby cows into veal or enslaves them to make more milk. Then the milk cows are fed corn and other weird stuff they’re not supposed to eat bc obviously they can’t drink OUR milk. 🤮
Dairy farmers already dump out tons of milk because there is too much milk in the USA
Not to mention consumption isn’t as high as it used to be
dairy farmers dump milk, retailers dump milk and the consumers again dumps milk. the system is just not efficient. Its actually kinda disgusting if you think about all the starving people.
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Jerry OK well there really isn’t much else you can do... oh wait we can over produce and dump milk or under produce and starve like most of the world... you pick.
I’ve been scrolling and scrolling for this comment! I live in WI. They’ve been dumping excess milk since at least 2016.
Its not about giving “wasted” food to starving people, we need to limit our waste by not producing or buying too much. There would be no food wasted if we didnt produce them at an excessive amount.
That's right! I understand the school part, but Restaurants and Starbucks? How many of them do we really need? Overpopulation and overconsumption are destroying our world and punishing innocent animals. Coronavirus is teaching us the hard way.
No, that's wrong, that's not how economies evolve, it's not the surplus being from excess, it's from prices and sellers going down the drain. Sure most people drink/eat too much dairy/food but that doesn't cause the whole surplus, the economy and output does.
TL;DR: It's not the Excessive amount we make, it's the economy crashing.
Stop spreading misinformation!
There's nothing wrong with having an excess of something essential like food. It's not hurting anyone and is far preferable to the alternative.
Carpe Diem You switched it around. Most adult mammals, including 70% of the human population, can’t tolerate cow milk.
Hence why they're now advocating for a quota...
Did any of you watch the video?
People starving and desperately looking for food
farmers and processing facilities with excess supply.
*WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY DO WITH THIS EXCESS PRODUCT?!?*
And it is supposedly educated people running these businesses
As the video said, they can't even give it away as that takes resources to make it happen which they don't have.
what are they gonna do send 10 gallons of milk to homeless people and have them be tortured by the milk curdling over the next few days
"Too much food being created and prices are too low? Just throw out that food to raise prices again."
Isn't Capitalism great?
Technically, one of the main problem with milk is that it is perishable.
If you give away milk, chances are they will spoil and cause more public health problems.
Then why dont you go out and fix it, think about everything needed to move the milk, store the milk, and distribute the milk to the destination. The time needed to make the system would also render the milk unusable.
Yeah, I understand your sarcasm.
2017: "oh hey Canada, we hate your milk supply management system, it's unfair to American dairy farmers"
2020: "milk prices are too low, we should have a milk supply management system to ensure stable prices and prevent a glut of overproduction"
Hi US dairy farmers. 🙋♂️
Exactly lots of people don't know Canada has a system like this
I dont understand how its not possible to make the food last longer. You could start creating cheese with longer shelf-life, you could use the milk to spray on farmland for calcium boost - they do that in other countries when there is a surplus, you can seperate the milk from the protein and make protein powder etc...
That's why Canadians pay 5x as much for our milk
@@Munchausenification simple: the cheese that can stay longer om shelf is more expensive, if they make more of it itll make it less valuable and theyll lose momey anyway.
and the spraying i dont know if itll work, if milk is a good fertilizer
@@RamseyKilani CAD$4.50 (so $3.31 USD) for effectively a gallon of milk isn't the end of the world. And judging by a cursory look online, that's almost the same in the States.
How about.. This might be a novel and radical idea.. But.. Let the cows feed their babies instead of milking them.. 🤯
Hmm...Great Idea!
Cows produce way more milk than it's calves need. If you have ever owned a cow you would know. the average dairy cow produces more than 7.5 gallons of milk per day. If she was producing just enough to feed her calf, a dairy cow would only produce about one gallon of milk per day. and the cows get sick if the extra milk is not milked out. they get sour bud and other diseases. Domestic cows are a result of 10,500 years of domestication and selective breeding process. I like how vegans just straight up make comments without knowing the simple facts and scientific data.
They do🤯😱
So that’s why I haven’t seen my dad in 4 months......no wonder, mans been waiting on line.....gotcha
The amount of french fries that could've been made
By whom, for whom? (French fries keep less well than potato).
Bryan Hann I’m pretty sure they’re joking
Right!,.... and or potato chips. Lol 🥔
Where I live they are giving away free packages of fries tomorrow
Looking at gallons of milk down to the sewers makes my heart ache....
“Capitalism”
"We aren't doing it for the money"
😒
What she's saying that for the past years, farmers aren't even making a profit anymore. See the graft in the video. They're just breaking even. All bec big companies are doing for for cheaper that independent farmers are having a hard time competing.
The people who say they're lying when they say they aren't doing it for the money have probably never been to a farm. Yeah, some farmers have comfortable houses, but they aren't getting rich.
What a waste... How can the private and goverment sector adjust and adapt to the distribution of these products...? So many hungry people
Yes! And the trauma that the animals had to go through + the work that the farmers had to go through is such a waste of time! Essentially working for nothing.
The government could definitely do something but farmers would just waste more time working for no return.
@@stuehl8607 Well the solution to that would be to produce sustainable food instead, such as vegetables, nuts, carbs etc.
@@burningflower1 But there is demand for those kinds of foods.
@@stuehl8607 Cows have to be milked. It's not like they're working for no return by choice.
All this is happening when yemen is dying of hunger. Strange
It's not. You can't transport that many perishable goods even inside one country when all the transportation systems are shut down.
@friday detox I was referring to the original comment, didn't see yours at the time of writing.
I guess you can pay the bill of moving the food to yemen then.
The world isn't perfect. People are dying everywhere - what's your point?
You only noticed because it was a trend. Yemen has been suffering for years.
People should stop drinking cows milk anyways, switch to almond milk.
Almond milk is not very sustainable either, given how resource intensive it is. Oat milk seems to be a better alternative, if we are talking about plant based substitutes of milk.
Casually sips milk while watching video about milk being wasted... suddenly wants more milk to drink. As someone who loves to drink milk, seeing this much milk wasted makes me sad.
Gee, it's almost like capitalism deliberately generates waste that could feed people, but keeping profits from failing is more important.
Oliver Cant that’s literally
what Capitalism is all about = profits
Capitalism doesn't promote waste. The opposite actually. It is governments and industries trying to prevent people from going out of business that is promoting continued waste. And this waste isn't a new thing. Food is just being wasted at the top now, while before it was wasted further down the supply chain.
👏👏👏 that part
The solutions for a lot of these problems appear to be more adaptive packaging planets and distribution. If a plant can quickly switch from large containers to smaller ones less food would be wasted. The other option, for cheese at least, is more cheese counters - they can deal with huge blocks of cheese, subdivide it when there is too much and better serve their customers needs when people are watching their budget but would still like to buy some cheese.
I also wounded why America doesn't have more long term food stores like the EU has. When prices drop, you could start shipping the excess product to plants that turn it into a long-lasting product (long-life milk or cheese, or frozen/dried/canned vegetables) and you place that all into long term storage warehouses - like a warehouse in a very sunny part of the country where the warehouse can be refrigerated off solar energy or a naturally cold part of the country like north Alaska where the building could be designed to take in cold air in the winter and insulated for the summer months. If these stores are run by the government then these long term stores can be used for relief efforts - like when a hurricane makes people homeless or there is something that affects the supply chains - or you can use it to feed national organisations like the military for less money. Maybe that idea is just too socialist for America.
There's nobody to pay for all that machinery and change in distribution so it ends up being cheaper to dump the milk. The government would rather just give you direct cash handouts than try to help industries change for the better.
@@spark9040 if you are an American citizen you have already paid plenty of money towards that infrastructure its just that you keep voting in governments that would rather spend your taxes on more weapons than ensuring you don't go hungry or sick. The money exists, it's just going to the wrong locations - like militarizing American police forces or paying off Trump's business interests.
@@EaterOfBaconSandwiches it does not equate to a loss of money. Currently there is a loss of money because product is being produced and instantly scrapped because of a lack of storage capacity. Plus the loss of income from American tax payers who would buy that product if it were available to them in a form that they could use. If America utilised it's wealth from the public purse to build storage for rainy days then farmers would stay in business for longer, which would have a positive impact on the average American - who are the ones who paid the taxes in the first place - as they would be able to buy the long life milk or canned/dried food for example.
If farmers go under then food prices will skyrocket in the future as either monopolies become the norm or new farmers have to pass on their high setup costs onto consumers. It's better to support farmers through the tough times and store the food for the very tough times, than loose both because some in your country are frightened of the word socialism.
Think of it this way, if you over produce skrews or cars or some other long term product, what do you do with it, you put it in storage and put on a sale to clear some of the stock while retaining an income. Then when times are better you empty that storage. What America is missing, clearly, is an ability to store their food which is leading to a loss of income.
@@idontwanttopickone I think you right, However police militarization is cheaper because that equipment comes from federal surplus and sells to the police at extremely discounted price.
the us doesn't like anything that isn't capitalism
U can make it to other dairy products like ghee whose shelf life is 1 year. Its called clarified butter
Exactly bro
Well where are they going to make it, they can’t pop up a new factory’s overnight
@@worldbuilder3262 they can all they need is some washing machines to make butter and some heavy duty boilers
So, you'll go teach them how to do it and provide all of manpower and machinery right? because these local farmer doesn't even have mean to send their milk off, let alone change their business direction right now.
It not work the way cause it pandamic time
It's not India or Muslim country like u think
Just give the excess milk to the calves that it was actually intended for???
Many milk getting dumped out because of covid-19
Cows: *Why are we still here just to suffer*
Right I was just thinking about how messed up that is all these cows being tortured for literally nothing
Farmers: Maybe, but you're going to give us hamburgers! Now get in the slaughter house.
ariel I know it breaks my heart. It’s already such a messed up industry, but for all the horribleness to be happening just to waste the result is even worse :(
They get sick if you don't milk them actually, that's what mastitis is.
@@xjayx113 They get mastitis if you don't milk them because their calves, who are supposed to drink the milk, are taken away at birth. It's not like we're doing them a favor by milking them.
I am glad to hear that (non animal) farmers are able to till their harvest back into the ground; that is how manure free farms fertilize; by growing nitrogen rich crops like clover and then tilling them back into the soil to fertilize it. At the very least the non animal farmers can send to compost or compost themselves. They are much more protected from having to completely waste their harvest should supply chains dry up suddenly and that makes me glad
Good outlook
Plus they're more easier to bottleneck the production than milk, modern cow need to be milked to keep them stay healthy, irony
I work in the cheese industry, corona saw a 40% drop in demand and production had to shift quickly from 1kg containers to the smaller retail tubs of around 175 gram. Such a shift was not easy to perform. For instance, the 1kg containers were going directly to restaurants, where as the retail containers were going to shops. Whilst the larger containers meant small vans delivering around the city, the small retail products needed to be shipped interstate.
Here's the next issue, it's a small facility, which changes production depending on which day of the week, your interstate customers require the fresh product straight from production, whereas your local restaurants take whatever is oldest, because they have a twice weekly delivery. With a small production facility, you can easily accommodate restaurants, but big interstate customers cause a substantial damage to production targets as you have to change everything.
Then the kicker, is that my two hands can place two 1kg tubs into a box, but my same two hands can place two 175 gram tubs into a different box, therefore the packing requirements of a smaller container are much larger, it requires more staff inside production and then in packing. This increases costs, uses more plastic.
Production lines have been made more and more efficient over time, but they are not at all adaptive. The margins are tighter as a result, and so major change upsets the entire system. And I think it's only made worse by these riots and things are going to take a very long time to get better.
To all the people commenting "why dont they just donate it?" Who is going to pay for this? The farmers? They have explained in this video that the farmers are running at a loss, they are struggling to pay their own bills. Its like asking why someone who has just lost their job isnt donating millions of dollars to charity.
To get this milk out of the farm and to where you are suggesting it be sent would require:
-longer working hours (unpaid) (possibly paying workers too depending on how big the farm is)
-cost of materials to package
-electricity for machines
-wear and tear on machines
-delivery (higher depending on how far away this country you want to donate to is, and potentially subject to extra expenses to get it into the country and to the people)
If you've played Factorio, you understand this video intuitively.
Haha seriously
except in factorio you have buffer chests for that kind of problem, and you dont have spoiling food to worry about
kirtil5 Imagine if gears or plates spoiled even on belts.
I'm just hoping that someone would make a mod for perishables goods. Would be interesting to see how the gameplay changes with perishables.
YIOTRO FAN!!!
Omg this is heartbreaking. If just a tiny amount of all that food that is being wasted goes to Yemenies people dying from hunger everyday 😢😢😢😢😢
Really such a cruel this world is💔😭
Yeah but this is capitalism sending that much food to other countries cost money, a lot of money. The company's rather take a hit in tossing food away then shipping it with no return profits.
rim abdelali how about you donate to organizations that ship the excess food to another country? It’s not the farmers job, the distributors job, consumer, or government or anyone else’s job to do so. If you feel led the go ahead.
@@ninja1inblack105 but for that one has to purchase it from the farmers 🤔
If someone would shoulder the logistics cost, then there would be no problem.
All the people in the comments obviously haven't seen the whole video lol
I won't waste time over spilled milk, that I can't help with. At least comments are funny.
@@zytolen5356 They can eat food from the garbage like dogs if they want it so bad
Why the HECK do they take the milk from the cows if they are just going to throw it away? JUST GIVE IT TO THE BABY COW WHO ACTUALLY NEEDS IT!
They probably have to milk the cows so that the cows stay healthy and don't get clogged up so it's probably going to the baby cows and they are still forced to milk the excess kinda like when women decide to breastfeed, some women produce more milk than needed. I imagine its the same with cows
”Were trying to get the milk to those who need it ” you mean to those that can afford it
Well it is more expenses than just the milk, they are already running at a loss and to then continue to package and deliver it would cost a lot of money which they receive no reimbursement from. That is just asking for the farm to go bankrupt!
Laggy Wizard yup. You just gotta bottle and process the milk yourself. And then drive all those processed milk back home before it spoils.
But yeah, they could give you all the milk you want.
Everyone can afford milk. The poorest person will still get food stamps that can pay for milk.
@@yuutokasane3332 you do not need to process milk you can drink from the milktank it just doesnt hold long
cow babies are the only beings who need the milk. humans don't need their milk
Meanwhile fish: this is not the average toxic waste we're used to, why I'm developing acne?
Ok Karen
@@dantheman_4765 do you know what a karen is?!
Daniel Ellison ok zoomer
My bad
@@dantheman_4765 let me guess burger 24/7
Not your mom, not your milk.
Elaborate???
Donate that milk to the hungry children all over the world 😪, who are starving to death for food.
Did you not watch the video?
It costs money and effort to transport.
BLANK Give it away for free
A.S Bernard but how can you do that without costing more money and effort? It’s not like you can just grab something and fill it out with milk without using more money. Other things like Potatoes are different because you can just leave the potatoes there and tell people to come and grab as much as they want. No need to cost more money for packaging and handling out to people. They just come and get it.
It's impossible, dairy products spoil too quickly.
@@Theo-bk6qj even with potatoes you cant really just leave them for people to take. there is an extreme amount of government regulation, liability, and general "red tape" for that to happen. source: my family runs a potato farm
I've cried a total of zero tears for dairy farmers. i feel bad for the cows and the unnecessary artificial insemination they have to endure for naught.
"lobbying pizza chains to put more cheese on pizza"
Yaass!
Now I don't feel guilty for adding that extra ounce or two of cheese on pizzas at work (Domino's)
Yes, i agree here. pizza with more cheese. That's good.
Back when I spilled my morning glass of milk, I held my tears in. Now after seeing this I know it’s ok to cry (This hits harder for me since I hate wasting food)
I'm still waiting to see the lower price of milk and cheese at my store. I have seen the price increase ever since this is Coronavirus started
"oh no, we have too much food, too bad we're gonna have to trash it :( "
If no one wants to buy their product further down the supply chain, they have no other choice than to get rid of their product. You saw some farmers send it to food banks, but they cant distribute it or store it either. Overall it is a basic mismatch in supply-demand. high supply and little demand in terms of willingness to buy. That is also why the prices fall, low demand means farmers have to sell for less.
“Capitalism”
literally no idea what you're talking about
Too bad our government prioritizes income over the wellbeing of people.
If the farmer can't pay the bills, then they can't make the food next year. As the video said, they can't even give the food away as that takes resources that are not available and would only serve to exacerbate the problem. Your comment is brutally ignorant as without income, there is no well being of people.
Economics is more complicated than romantic ideals.
Tavern Burner dude he might not have said it in accurate economic terms but he’s right govt should be a welfare orgn. But it does misallocation with the fund it has. I mean is 1 trillion military budget really necessary when veterans are homeless .
If exploiting nature had never became the norm this wouldn’t be an issue 🤷🏾♀️
Kendra Latrice, that would also mean we would have to stop eating plants, by your philosophy.
what does this have to do with the video?
cherry_skiies * Actually, I meant what I said. Understanding the definition of EXPLOITING would be a good start to comprehending my “philosophy”
MARCO WULLIAM POPIRERS what does your comment to me have to do with the video?
I agree! Deforestation for farming which is said to be the reason for virus transmission. Its all a cycle. Anything done in excess is not good.
Give them to Nikocado Avocado, nothing's going to waste 😂 he is the waste lol
jesus haha
That human trash
Best comment
at least the cows dont need to be artificialy inseminated again.
Evan no, they’re just gonna get slaughtered
to be fair it is much safer for all parties involved to use AI and not a bull.
@@kimberley83721 True
@@kimberley83721 yeah but we could also just... not drink milk?
@@kimberley83721 The safest option for human health, environment, and animal welfare would be to stop breeding cows into existence and switch to plant based milk and plant based food.
It's happening all over the world too :(
No,we still buy milk from poland.
it seem to me america already had a little problim made massive by the virus
@Eric 23 love that shade at miles
third/second world countries: allow us to introduce ourselves
Ok but like we don’t need dairy
Yes we do.
Eliminate all dairy now you only have dairy alternatives now people need to grow a insanly large amount of almonds,peanuts,cashews and coconut just to make up for milk not even including other dairy products like cheese.
We don't "need" any one particular food, but we really like dairy because it tastes great, has numerous derivative food products, is fairly cheap to mass produce, and provides nutrition to a massive number of people, so suddenly taking it away would be disastrous
Krombopulos Michael the dairy industry is really bad. We aren’t baby cows so we shouldn’t consume milk. Also plant based milks are way healthier than cows milk.
This is AWESOME!!! That milk was not for us in the first place.
I don't believe her for one second when she says they're "not doing it for the money, that's for sure" 9:30
_Press X to doubt_
What's wrong with that?
It is about causing a food shortage
Well farmers aren’t exactly rolling in the big bucks are they. It’s a lot of work to make slightly above average income.
Super Markets are still charging a bit for cream. Drug stores are selling a gallon of milk for three dollars. I cant wait to see the end of year profits for Walmart and grocery stores considering for three months they were the only place to shop.
This is great thing, no more suffering for cows!
FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT I HAVE BEEN SCROLLING FOR SO LONG
No, pointless suffering for cows. The dairy farmers aren't shutting down; they're going to ramp up again when the covid crisis passes.
Humans aren’t supposed to drink other animals milk in the first place.
this was infuriating to watch and has made me even more disgusted with the diary industry than i was before.
stray animals: "am i a joke to you?"
Yeah, cats and dogs will happily accept the milk.
GrinFlash Most adult cats and dogs can’t metabolize milk. Lactose tolerance in adults is rare in mammals.
@@GrinFlash007 yeah you are probably right but I share my life with six cats They all ignore milk believe it or not
@@tgnedas7060 Your dog would eat anything it's a dog
or I am sure they can dump it into the ground or give to farmers to fertilize their grounds
Supply chain management is very important... Even for a developed country
Especially for a developed country.
They’d rather “throw” it away.
No kids at school cause of COVID. You deliver the small milk cartons to the kids not able to get it cause of the school shut down. We're hearing Alot of ridiculous excuses without any answers to the problem.