Using Fruit in Wine Cider and Mead

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  • Using Fruit in Wine Cider and Mead. We get asked all the time how to add fruit, when to add fruit, and what kind of fruit you should use in wine, or cider or mead. So we decided to put together this Brewtalk about some ways we like to use fruit and some things we plan to brew using fruit.
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  • @petermaguire2632
    @petermaguire2632 4 года назад +20

    "I'm going to call it George". Great looney tunes reference. I like the nerd.

    • @sunglint
      @sunglint 3 года назад

      So, when I shampoo my hair, then rinse it, I then secondary ferment it, or George it?

  • @alienkushkilla
    @alienkushkilla 3 года назад +22

    I live in the USA but when my grandfather came here from Greece in the 60s he snuck some grape vines that grew locally in Greece and they've been growing in our yard ever sense, I'm brand new to mead making but I hope to incorporate some the grapes in some brews that he planted all those years ago in his memory. Thanks for the tips you both have helped so much!!

  • @danwinks4917
    @danwinks4917 4 года назад +14

    " Conditioning " is a good word when I have to explain to my friends why I don't any ready yet.

  • @robertgaskell6663
    @robertgaskell6663 4 года назад +15

    In my day job, I work in a winery. We have large open top fermentation tanks for our reds. We punch down the cap twice a day to keep the fruit moist. Before fermentation starts we blanket the top with CO2. Once fermentation has begun, turn off the CO2. I don't know how well that would translate to smaller batches but, the more you know...

  • @georgecolby7488
    @georgecolby7488 4 года назад +13

    I have several apple trees in my backyard, last year I made a cider press. That's actually what got me interested in brewing, with a fresh source of apples every year. I always grab 'drops' which are the tree's way of saying "it's ripe!", cut off the soft spots and freeze them. You get about twice the amount of juice from frozen apples as fresh/chopped.
    I don't call it secondary fermentation, I always call it just 'secondary', like the 2nd step. But I approve of the name George wholeheartedly!
    Cheers!

  • @Dave_en
    @Dave_en 4 года назад +11

    I'm learning a lot from both of you. This channel is the holy Grail for hobby winemakers like us. The subtle details on methods you pass on to us makes huge difference in end result.
    Currently I have 4 gallon spiced Pyment in secondary stage and I'm extremely satisfied with the outcome. My test batch of banana mead also came out wonderful.

  • @mikeyunovapix7181
    @mikeyunovapix7181 3 года назад +7

    I personally would like to make wines from exotic fruits and others that most people never heard of. There is this video series that showcases so many different fruits and so many I make wine from like miracle berries or a mix of cactus fruits, perhaps even ice cream bean.

  • @geckoman1011
    @geckoman1011 Год назад

    I like the the clarification of terms on using conditioning rather than secondary

  • @DSK2007
    @DSK2007 4 года назад +33

    I like the new level of content. Appreciate the amount of work you guys are putting in.

    • @controversialhunter8032
      @controversialhunter8032 4 года назад +1

      Agreed Daniel, for that reason I'll soon be making a one time Donation, but I'm sure I'll be doing it more than once. Right now just don't have the means to be a patron.

    • @jeaninedelong5741
      @jeaninedelong5741 2 года назад

      Thank you

  • @TheNutCollector
    @TheNutCollector 4 года назад +9

    I am making your grape juice wine right now. I considered adding grape juice concentrate to the juice instead of using sugar, but thought because this is one of my first brews that I should stick to a recipe. Gotta learn the rules before you break them.

  • @NeonRazor7
    @NeonRazor7 4 года назад +2

    I really like the idea of calling secondary fermentation "conditioning" to clear up confusion with new brewers. It describes what that step in the process is actually accomplishing. I've personally called it the primary and secondary steps (plus additional bulk aging or bottling), leaving out the "fermentation" part.

  • @thisguyaa63
    @thisguyaa63 4 года назад +2

    Like anything, put good in and you'll get good out. When I make melomels I like to add organic juice in primary to get the fermented nuance but then add frozen fruit in secondary for the punch of flavor I know a lot of my friends and family are looking for when I say "blueberry mead"

  • @MeadyBeard
    @MeadyBeard 4 года назад +6

    Cool.
    I'm making a blueberry melomel right now, with half the fruit in primary, and the rest in secondary.
    For ultimate Blueberryness!

    • @michaelhaugen9878
      @michaelhaugen9878 4 года назад +2

      As am I. It's the 2nd one I started. I'm rethinking how I handled adding the blueberries though. I will have to pop the bucket open this weekend and pray I don't find Mold.

  • @NativeDaemon
    @NativeDaemon 4 года назад +4

    I am Brewt! I am brewt. I am Brewt! (rough translation: Love info videos! Much to learn. Mead is life!)

  • @jasonmyersOU812
    @jasonmyersOU812 Год назад

    Loved the Ferris Bueller Ending.

  • @benjaminjumche1174
    @benjaminjumche1174 2 года назад

    Thank you guys for this, 2 years later, very useful :)

  • @thebadjew3136
    @thebadjew3136 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for all the helpful info. You have inspired me to brew again. In 20 twenty WON. These skill are dying and thank you for the smiles and science babel but not an info overload. Truly you are an impression

  • @patlawson1659
    @patlawson1659 2 года назад +1

    I live in Florida too , but we don't have a Publix's , we only have a Winn Dixie , Grocery Outlet and Walmart . We did have a Save-A-Lot , But, Hurricane 🌀 Michael Blew it Away . 🤠

  • @invadertangent8304
    @invadertangent8304 Год назад

    I definitely recommend freezing bananas to prep them for use in any brew. Why? Besides breaking them down, it's easier to handle frozen bananas.

  • @randomlife718
    @randomlife718 2 года назад

    So... I just racked my primary pear ferment that has been lost for 14 months... Wow, it taste great. Those pears are quite potent to eat.

  • @dlynnmorse
    @dlynnmorse 2 года назад

    We grow cherry and apple trees. I freeze cherries every year will cherries make a good brew. What a great idea we also grow many berries. So excited to try this venture.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  2 года назад +1

      Cherries make a fantastic brew! ruclips.net/video/cP4mYH9jNeY/видео.html

  • @rebeccagodinez185
    @rebeccagodinez185 4 года назад +3

    Hi Derica and Brian,
    This is a fruit and spice question. I make a mulled apple juice with a cinnamon stick, 7 cloves, half and orange sliced, an inch of fresh ginger sliced, and a bottle of apple juice. I heat it all up for 45 minutes, and end up with mulled apple juice. My question is, can I let drink cool strain it, and then make a hard cider with that mixture infused with fruit and spice flavors?

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад +4

      In theory, yes... but all that clove and cinnamon... maybe? They are natural antibiotics, so.. it could harm the yeast. But it's worth a try.

  • @bostjerndahl1779
    @bostjerndahl1779 4 года назад +2

    I am always a winner when you put up new content

  • @jeffclark9500
    @jeffclark9500 4 года назад +2

    Another well timed video. I have several pounds of dark sweet cherries frozen until I had a better understanding of how to use them as a whole fruit. I now have a favorite juice wine, I have made pretty decent wine from off the shelf preserves and now want to try a wine using fruit. Keep that information coming!

  • @bostjerndahl1779
    @bostjerndahl1779 4 года назад +1

    Nice and informative video as always. If you chop fruits and or berries and mix with sugar. The sugar will pull the juice out of the fruit. Stir every now and then for up to seven days. When you are ready to make wine just add water to your prefered gravity and of course the yeast of your choice. Happy brewing.

  • @paulr8308
    @paulr8308 4 года назад +2

    Love her laugh.

  • @Acetyleni
    @Acetyleni 3 года назад +1

    I just picked the most delicious "wood strawberries" (at least we call them that in german...the small ones with the intense flavor) from the garden. We resisted the urge to eat them because they're just so incredibly flavorful - I put them in the freezer and will collect more as they ripen over the next days/weeks to try and make some mead (melomel?) with them. If this turns out as delicious as it sounds in my head I'll be very happy :D

  • @oskarjohansson6435
    @oskarjohansson6435 4 года назад +3

    Strawberries are apparently extremely yummy to yeast, ive noticed. Started a strawberry lime melomel 3 weeks and 1 day ago today. Its currently at 1.010 with an OG of 1.120. Fastest fermentation ive ever had.

    • @scottmiller9490
      @scottmiller9490 4 года назад +3

      Strawberry-Lime melomel... that sounds amazing, care to share your recipe?

  • @nathanjherring
    @nathanjherring 4 года назад +1

    You guys are awesome. Love the channel. I'm a beer brewer, but after watching some of these videos, I'm thinking of brewing some mead too. Thanks for what you do

  • @scottbrown5970
    @scottbrown5970 Год назад

    i rarely subscribe to channels, but you guys are quite entertaining. you make learning fun and that's how it should be. thanks for the great videos! cheers!

  • @kellyosullivan990
    @kellyosullivan990 2 года назад

    I am so glad that I found this channel. I have learned a lot from your videos. I have done two batches of straight mead and learned a lot. Now I am going to try my hand at a raspberry mead. I just put my fresh raspberries in the freezer and will mash them when I get a-brewing.

  • @nakiatraversy5323
    @nakiatraversy5323 3 года назад +1

    You guys made my brewing experience so much better and fun. Thank you

  • @KaribeCuebas
    @KaribeCuebas 2 года назад +1

    Love you guys!! Great info! I wish I had discovered your channel before I started brewing my wine but hey…it’s all good. I’m learning a ton from you now. Thanks!!!

  • @chaseb6728
    @chaseb6728 3 года назад +12

    Did we ever get the fruit in primary vs. secondary test video? Couldn't find it.

    • @tylerhart8029
      @tylerhart8029 Год назад

      Same

    • @babaG819
      @babaG819 Год назад

      I'd say it depends on your preference or what you're going for. I tend to prefer just throwing everything in and letting it go. It's going to change flavors, some for the better and others maybe not. Throwing it in at the end will give a more or less exact flavor of that additive because you're not fermenting it, it's staying the same. And of course doing both will be a mix of both.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  Год назад

      We did a video on this: ruclips.net/video/EzaMkTp5B_0/видео.html

  • @fredturner7079
    @fredturner7079 4 года назад +4

    In the late 60's & early 70's I used jelly & perserves to make wine, have you ever tried this? Love the show, will probably get back into wine/mead making because of you guys!

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад +1

      Haven't tried, but it's in the works to do this!

    • @blueberrymuffenman
      @blueberrymuffenman 4 года назад

      Making a marmalade wine right now currently in primary all is looking good one of the easiest recipes I have ever done

    • @tearren1
      @tearren1 4 года назад

      @Fred
      Thats really interesting about using jelly and preserves. Youd be getting the benefits if concentrated fruit and sugar.
      So, what were you using for yeast back then? Bread yeast, natural yeast like from grapes, or something else?

    • @fredturner7079
      @fredturner7079 4 года назад

      @@tearren1 There was a local brew supply store, don't remember the name.

  • @lukeshedid650
    @lukeshedid650 Год назад

    A note on seeds. I could see how most seeds would come out bitter but my first successful mead, a fig melomel (which I may be ashamed to say I made in a used wine bottle with a punctured piece of plastic wrap on top), had this really good depth to it that tasted like fig seeds. I would have never guessed it would pair so well with honey!

  • @sityoubousit
    @sityoubousit 4 года назад +1

    I'm thinking a questi... Oh, thanks guys that's the answer I was looking for!

  • @pedrocavaleiro9122
    @pedrocavaleiro9122 4 года назад +10

    Hey guys. When adding fruit to the conditioning stage how long do you think it's safe to leave it in ? Having in mind that fermentation has "theoretically" stopped, isn't it more prone to oxidation and infection at this stage ? Will a week still be safe ?
    Love the channel and it has helped me ALOT in understanding and gaining the "courage" to start my own brews. Thank you so much. I've started with the CS ginger beer and going to start a traditional mead soon (we produce our own honey so I'm excited to see what I can achieve with it). Biggest regards from Portugal.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад +9

      During conditioning, I recommend keeping it submerged, then, theoretically... you can leave it as long as you like.

  • @chiho9158
    @chiho9158 4 года назад

    try adding frozen juice concentrate to regular strength juice, or add water to concentrate until you reach desired SG. nice way of replicating a ice wine. be careful with some types of juices, acid levels can be a bit overwhelming.

  • @medsurgcutie
    @medsurgcutie 3 года назад +1

    Love me some Aldi!!!

  • @miguelfernandes333
    @miguelfernandes333 3 года назад +1

    you guys are amazing

  • @tearren1
    @tearren1 4 года назад

    Wow, you guys really packed a lot of good information into this video.
    I would be very interested and am looking forward to the video were you add fruit during the different stages of mead making, and also half in the primary and half in the secondary.

  • @kenw7098
    @kenw7098 4 года назад +1

    Great video, lots of information about fruit.
    Love the idea of doing a all fruit juice wine.
    Didn't win a shirt this time round but there's always next time, the new Odins Brewery is great looking. Hope Brian can see this comment this time....lol

  • @lucasbbv
    @lucasbbv 4 года назад +1

    12:14 i'm doing something different with a wine I'm making, I pic the fruit from my garden , frozen it , than I place the frozen fruit on a container and cover it with sugar, than I let it sit for about 1 to 2 weeks so the sugar pull out the moisture with all the flavors and color from the Berrys ( I'm using "acerola" I don't know the translation from Portuguese to English , is a South America native fruit, kind of a berry that is a little sour), a important information is that you need to put 1:1 ratio of sugar and fruit by weight , if not more , so the gravity is too right to star fermentation, and actually encourage the good yeast present on the fruit to flourish and get kind of a natural ferment in this step. And them after that I dilute the must to the OG desired and put the yeast to start proper fermentation.
    I start a batch of this couple weeks ago and put the yeast yesterday. Of you have interest I can keep you up on this .
    This method certainly not work for all kinds of fruit , but I find interesting the flavor outcome it gives with "acerola" particularly.
    See you next vid

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад +1

      Similar to a method I'd heard of before actually!

    • @lucasbbv
      @lucasbbv 4 года назад

      I actually come with this method accidentally , I do not see the wild fermentation starting when I was doing a extraction to make a licor, and when I check and saw the extraction bubbling then I change plans and dilute it and add the years to make wine and come out pretty good .

    • @lucasbbv
      @lucasbbv 4 года назад

      The interesting thing came when I compare it with a previous batch of acerola wine, and I note a more complex flavor on the wine with wild fermentation on the start

  • @roberttiffany3101
    @roberttiffany3101 4 года назад

    Thanks for all the great info - we are new to mead making and you two are our go-to youtubers for info - thanks again!!

  • @colinkingrealtor
    @colinkingrealtor Год назад

    Recently I have tried a few Black Currant Ciders and have absolutely loved them. So I figured why not make some of this at home. I live just outside of San Antonio, TX and needless to say we don’t have black currants readily available, and since this video is all about fruit in cider I figures I would ask a few question here. I checked at my local grocery store and they have black currant juice but it has a sorbate in it so I know that wont work. I went to the internet to look at options.
    First there is the option of getting them sent to me frozen but for 5 pounds this will end up costing about $90 dollars so this option is out because that is a lot of $$ for fruit. The next option I came across is dried black currants and after shipping it would be around $17 a pound. The final option I came across is to get a black currant wine base. Which is about $50 for gallon which is good for 5 gallons of wine. I figure should be able to get about 5 to 6 gallons or cider out of it. However it is just not straight currant juice, it has high fructose corn sugar, other juices, citric acid and water added.
    My question is with the frozen fruit being cost prohibited what is the lesser of two evils between the dried currants and will they add enough to the party since the are dried, or is the wine base a better option?
    Thank you in advance for your time.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  Год назад +2

      I would go with the wine base. Least amount of effort and a good price.

    • @colinkingrealtor
      @colinkingrealtor Год назад

      @@CitySteadingBrews Thank you. That was kinda the way I was leaning. Since I posted this yesterday I did find a company that sells frozen concentrate. Trying to figure out the cost and practacality of it but it may be an option that will work too for a reasonable price. I will try to update you with what I do once I make a final decision and the results.

  • @patriotsedge6730
    @patriotsedge6730 3 года назад

    Made a strawberry mead with Fresh (not frozen) strawberries. Turned out ok but I wanted a bit more "strawberry" to my Strawberry Mead. In George, I mean, Conditioning phase, I added about 3 oz of Freeze Dried Strawberries. They smell amazing. Will see how it turns out.

  • @baijokull
    @baijokull 4 года назад

    Costco Kirkland lemonade is great. You can just add some yeast and an airlock and you'll have really nice hard lemonade.

  • @patlawson1659
    @patlawson1659 2 года назад +1

    Watching your Video on adding Fruit to Wine, Cider & Mead , again . Was wondering if you can use , Sugar Beets, to make a Wine worth a Hoot . I was given a bucket of Beets , this past weekend . And since I'm not really a Fan of Beets . I took em outside to wash & scrub the dirt off in the sink . Took em inside to cut in half , then sliced em into 1/4 inch slices , to help get as much out of em as possible . Put em in a Big Pot of water , added Cinnamon & Cloves . Cooked em on low boil until tender . Let em cool a little . Poured the juice into a big fermenter , added sugar . Poured the solids into a Brew Bag . Added that to the rest . Sweeten to 1.100 . When it started activity , I could Smell the Beets . Not much to my liking . But in 24 hours could only smell em a little bit . Day 2 not at all , day 3 it actually smells good . They didn't take off at a Hard Boil like Fruit 🍑🍓 , but just as steady as it could be , real consistent . The Color is simply Beautiful ❤️ . What are your thoughts on making Wine from Sugar Beet ? Have you ever heard of anybody doing it ? Will it Taste Good ? Will it Even Work . It seems to be working now , and it even started Smelling good after 2 Days . I know it's not a Fruit , or is it .🤔 I took a taste at the start . Better than I would have thought . Better than Pears with Sugar & Cinnamon . And I don't even like Beets . But this is Different . I just couldn't bring myself to throw em away . Only thing I could think of to do with em . P.S. if it's not to my liking , I know Plenty of people who'll Drink it . If it works . 🤠

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  2 года назад +2

      I've not ever used beets, but I know people who've made beet wine.

    • @patlawson1659
      @patlawson1659 2 года назад +1

      @@CitySteadingBrews Thank You for Your Response , at least I'm not the only Nut 🥜🔩 out there . 🤠

  • @Cionaoith
    @Cionaoith 4 года назад +1

    I hate strawberries, too. I put them in my freezer to make them suffer. They know why. ;)

  • @drsrwise
    @drsrwise 4 года назад +5

    Less than one minute in and I'm commenting 🤦‍♂️ but I made an amazing 14%ABV sour apple cider/wine using only concentrated apple juice

  • @brazilnut8898
    @brazilnut8898 3 года назад

    You guys should do a video on fruit acquisition. I've found all kinds of resources like commercial and restaurant supply avenues but I would love to hear from someone that has actual experience sourcing bulk fruit.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  3 года назад

      We don’t actually. We grow some. We biy from farmers markets and grocery.

  • @namelessjoe11
    @namelessjoe11 4 года назад +1

    Hey guys. what do you think about getting a vacuum chamber to "boil" down juice to make a concentrate... It might keep the nutrition to help the fermentation going and not cooking out other flavors?

  • @trevtreloar1449
    @trevtreloar1449 4 года назад

    I think George is a great name for secondary fermentation

  • @syphirmenoti1468
    @syphirmenoti1468 4 года назад +1

    congrats winners

  • @dillonfisher7756
    @dillonfisher7756 4 года назад

    Lover your guys videos watch them every week

  • @Hammarchorp
    @Hammarchorp 3 года назад

    Hi! Sorry, I have some trouble finding recipes on RUclips, but if you haven't made a rasberry mead you should definitely try to do one! It's hard to beat the honey and rasberry mix, and if you want to get creative you can add some herbs into ut 🤤

  • @TheKekkers
    @TheKekkers 4 года назад

    After hearing you say the thing about someone saying boil the juice to get rid of preservatives, I looked up an SDS on sodium benzoate to satiate my own curiosity. Its melting point is 816°F, and decomposes at a higher temperature than that, so yeah, you can boil your juice away and have preservatives left. LOL

  • @Coxeysbodgering
    @Coxeysbodgering 4 года назад +1

    Being in the UK, in the X points per pound of sugar/honey would it be different for imperial gallon as there is 20% difference to the the US gal. And is there a difference for different types of sugar? Table vs caster (cooking?) vs demerara vs soft vs dark (muscovado). Thanks for all the videos and the information experimets you're sharing. Take care, Mike

    • @Coxeysbodgering
      @Coxeysbodgering 4 года назад

      Hi Deri ca and Brian, are you able to answer my question? thought it might be covered in today's sprg video but wasn't. Take care, Mike.

  • @patlawson1659
    @patlawson1659 2 года назад +1

    Watching your Video on adding Fruit 🍑🍓 to Wine, Cider & Mead . You covered it ALL . P.S. I'd like my T shirt 👕 to say , ( Da-Much ) 🤠

  • @stonerainproductions
    @stonerainproductions Год назад

    I love your content and you got me to start brewing again (used to brew beer with my Dad but he passed and I stopped). I started making Mead for the first time and I have a question about adding fruit. If I add fruit, should I put it in a neutral spirit before adding it to the primary or is there a way to pasteurize the fruit before putting it in the primary fermenter? We want to make a raspberry Mead and it has a ton of seeds, I just want to make sure fruit is clean and safe from bacteria and such. Thanks for your help and terrific content!

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  Год назад +1

      We freeze fruit to help with this issue. Or you could use campden tablets

  • @georgehardisty8948
    @georgehardisty8948 4 года назад

    I also like your videos and wouldn't mind if you used George as replacement for secondary. I do add fruit to my meads now and am using a large stainless steele fermenter, so I add the fruit in a bag and only leave it in for 1 week if doing a low ABV mead 2 weeks if doing a higher ABV. Pineapple has been the best one for me 14% ABV and clear in 32 days with now stirring degassing or anything else. I get a little over 5 gallons per batch. The bee keeper loves me because it takes 17 pounds of honey per batch (low ABV 8 pounds). Your infromation here and your cooking channel is giving me an enjoyable retirement. Lots of bread to go with my mead. Thanks and keep it going.

    • @georgehardisty8948
      @georgehardisty8948 4 года назад

      @@CM-oe9kyI just let it do itself. This is from my last batch, I cut the top and bottom off of the pineapple, slice it in about 1 inch thick slices then quarter them. One pound pineapple per gallon:
      2 pineapples cut with skin
      17 lbs Kieth’s honey
      4.5 gallon water
      LALVIN 71B-1122 1 1/2 pack (59-86 Degree 14% will enhance fruit flavors and add fruity esters)
      added no nutrients
      SG 1.098 14.63% possible ABV
      Should remove fruit 1/30/20
      2/6/20 FG .994 14.63% ABV, took a sample from the top, it was clear already, bottom still cloudy.
      Should be clear 2/16/20 (31) days
      Bottled 2/16/20. Still tastes green, but good and clear

  • @lescobrandon2202
    @lescobrandon2202 Год назад +1

    I was thinking using meat in my next brew. Pork Cider maybe..

  • @neutronstarlord5716
    @neutronstarlord5716 2 года назад

    wish i had watched this video earlier lol I just strained a batch of mead that i made. The cherries that i added to the must i pitted, boiled, and mashed. added some cherry juice as well....and added a whole pack of yeast...meant for 5 gal (i was making 1 gal....) I didnt pull out much cherry flavor so ill try the freeze and smash method next time.

  • @cristimelvin7092
    @cristimelvin7092 3 года назад +2

    Love watching you guys! My bag of dried cherries list sunflower oil as an ingredient so I brought water to a boil added my 2lbs of cherries and let sit for a few minutes and drained that water off then added the cherries to my Pomegranate juice. Did this remove enough of the oils, or should I have avoided using these dried cherries? Thanks!

  • @rova4652
    @rova4652 4 года назад +1

    Awesome to see my comment made the video! Looking forward to it. Also name was correct the first time so congrats lol

  • @inotaarto8719
    @inotaarto8719 4 года назад

    Was thinking about questions awnserd here🤗 so thank you.

  • @hbg8683
    @hbg8683 2 года назад

    Watching this one too.
    💪😁✌🌷🌷🌷

  • @shawnlewis9607
    @shawnlewis9607 2 года назад

    For me, the question of boiling fruit is more about how to get rid of the Lactobacillus on the fruit rather than concern about wild yeasts. I know in wine, winemakers will use "camden tablets", which AFAIK is all about killing that Lacto. Which, incidentally, is why you have to boil Liquid Malt Extract when you make extract beers.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  2 года назад +2

      Camden tabs are sulfites and kill everything. I prefer not to use them. I have never had a problem with lacto fermentation in a brew.

    • @shawnlewis9607
      @shawnlewis9607 2 года назад

      @@CitySteadingBrews I haven't done that much with fruit, so I don't know from my own experience. I did have some trouble with Lacto infecting my early beers. One was caused by not boiling the LME, I'm pretty sure. A couple others were caused by insufficient sanitisation.
      I just brewed a concoction yesterday with Bavarian Wheat LME, apple juice and brown sugar and that I did boil because of the LME.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  2 года назад +2

      I don’t even boil beers… the only real reason is for hops extraction. Not heard about laco fermentation problems in beer myself.

  • @michaelhaugen9878
    @michaelhaugen9878 4 года назад

    Thanks again Brian and Derica for that amusing and highly informative Video. Ferris Buehler would have smiled....... but not Deadpool.
    Now I have to buy BrewBags......

  • @steveskouson9620
    @steveskouson9620 4 года назад

    Conditioning. Count me in.
    (Oh, great video.)
    steve

  • @williammentink
    @williammentink 4 года назад

    Brian and Derika. What about freezing some cold pressed juice to make it more concentrated (or using frozen concentrate(like Scott Wiseley commented.).)

  • @jamesmason8147
    @jamesmason8147 3 года назад

    LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, We would get along well. I don't shop at walmart either.

  • @genericpill
    @genericpill 4 года назад

    Dear Derika and Brian, Please consider doing cyser and more cider vids. Also, how do you recommend getting the fruit out of the carboy when it comes to orange slices and apple slices.....just shake really hard...🤣

  • @kevinkult
    @kevinkult 4 года назад

    Hmm, I like conditioning instead of secondary. But now you might need to explain the difference between this conditioning and bottle conditioning.

  • @bruceprosser8332
    @bruceprosser8332 3 года назад

    Immersion blender in small batches in your must prior to pitching yeast to somewhat liquify pre frozen fruit might be a good way to oxygenate/ariete the must. Just an idea get a 2 for 1 in one step maybe?

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  3 года назад

      I suppose you could do that. I don't worry about liquefying it though... yeast are microscopic, so if the cell walls are broken up from freezing, should be good to go.

  • @paulmorson2268
    @paulmorson2268 4 года назад +1

    "George" HAS to stay!!!

  • @FunkyFyreMunky
    @FunkyFyreMunky 4 года назад +1

    Hey guys. I was wondering, do you had any experience with vegetable wines? I've started a carrot wine on my Grandad's say-so. Apparently, it's delicious. I've also heard good things about beetroot and (weirdly!) garlic wine.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад +2

      Hmm... no? We really haven't much to be honest.

    • @FunkyFyreMunky
      @FunkyFyreMunky 4 года назад

      @@CM-oe9ky Yeah, I'm thinking of doing seasonal flower wine/mead as and when they're available. Dandelion, elderflower, rose and honeysuckle are at the forefront of my mind to experiment with. Definitely with a sauternes yeast.

  • @exsoulpyro
    @exsoulpyro 2 года назад

    At about the 1:39 mark, there is a question about adding fruit in primary vs secondary fermentation. You said you were going to make a video, I am just wondering if you have made that yet, and if so what is the name of the video? Thank you, I appreciate the advice I have gotten from your videos so far.

  • @DoctorDeadsmile
    @DoctorDeadsmile 4 года назад

    Hey I love you videos you've taught me so much but I wanted to let you know that fermentation is going on in secondary fermentation it's malolactic fermentation

  • @TheKrinkled1
    @TheKrinkled1 4 года назад

    Hmm, i guess cutting up an orange whole and tossing it in my jug wasn't the best course of action. lessons learned!

  • @j.o.a.t.miscellaneous4778
    @j.o.a.t.miscellaneous4778 4 года назад

    Mangos...you want to use mangos for the fruit only wine... Look up mangos. They're about to come into season too so should be easy access.

  • @keeperofthegood
    @keeperofthegood 4 года назад

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest cooking the juice at a temperature to reduce it would change the flavor, even slowly water reduced fruit has a flavor change. Consider making wine entirely from rasins. Tomato past is a reduction made in vacuum for just this reason, by reducing the pressure the water evolves at a lower temperature faster thus preserving better the tomato flavor. I would say go ahead and try because maybe the flavor change would be pleasing in the finished brew but first take a cup of apple juice, reduce it to half a cup and taste that.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад

      Yep, this is something we have to remember as we experiment.

  • @DKsupreme69420
    @DKsupreme69420 4 года назад +1

    So what if you used a cyser recipe for a melomel instead of a gallon of cider, use a natural juice of choice like mango, or guava nectar/concentrated

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад

      Sure, you can do that.

    • @jameskeal8957
      @jameskeal8957 4 года назад

      Do it! You'll enjoy it.
      I Experimented with mango and guava juices, just to see how it would taste as a mead. But i step feeding it. Allowing the yeast to work more on the juices and fead it honey more to balance the flavors.
      Matter of fact I bottled it yesterday. As a young mead it's light full of flavor with a about 13.2% . If i can keep my hands off it and with some aging. I believe it will only improve.
      The only regret i have is i don't make a bigger batch. I will make it again but not a gallon but at lease 3 gallons , it turned out that good.
      Tey it you'll love it. Just make more than a gallon.
      Jim

    • @DKsupreme69420
      @DKsupreme69420 4 года назад

      James Keal mines fermenting as we speak, didn’t step feed just followed a basic cyser recipe but used a mango nectar/puree

  • @michaelhaugen9878
    @michaelhaugen9878 4 года назад

    Just rough racked my Blueberry Melomel to a Carboy today. Now I have an empty Fermenting Bucket. My wife queried "Could you make a Green Mead???" I immediately thought........... KIWI...Why NOT!
    Technique question would be: chop, freeze, thaw, pitch? -or- mush, pitch? -orrrr- chop, simmer down to concentrated syrup, add honey at safe temperature to incorporate and go from there?
    So many questions........

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад

      Each method might make different results. Cooking will make it less vibrant in flavor, but freezing, thawing and chopping is good too.

  • @natederov
    @natederov 4 года назад +1

    I like using a two gallon bucket for primary so I can yield a full gallon of mead. I haven't tried adding fruit to the conditioning stage because I'm hoping for some tips and tricks to get the fruit of the glass carboy. Have you got any?

  • @jordanpark5533
    @jordanpark5533 3 месяца назад

    I didn't want to make a large comment, though I enjoyed the video.
    However, I will mention that I'm in the UK and I'm calling it conditioning and so the trend is spreading lol
    The name is more fitting for the concept in my mind as well. Even if some fermentation does occur, your goal is not fermentation(unless you're literally aiming for a second fermentation, like the habanero and mango video.), you're adding to the flavours and some fermentation may be a result of that. You're conditioning the flavours, perhaps setting it up because you want a long conditioning period and you know "this" will age quite well....therefore conditioning the product to become a final aging product.
    Makes sense...

  • @darthepirate3033
    @darthepirate3033 4 года назад

    Hey Brian, I have heard that you alcohol itself will “ferment” in secondary. The alcohol will mellow and change. You will loose some of the fusels will actually change and become more drinkable due to fermentation in secondary. I guess this could really be considered aging as well. Would love to hear you opinion on this. The another great video really love your channel.

    • @noxcarakus
      @noxcarakus 4 года назад

      I have never heard of alcohol fermenting, but in secondary yes off gassing does occur so a lot of the undesirable smells/gasses will leave, which in and of itself will mellow things out a little bit. And if you leave it long enough yes it would be bulk aging, which will meld and mellow flavors a lot more.
      I actually have a cranberry/cherry mead that ended up around 17%, but when it was first put in secondary/bulk aging, and one bottle to drink, I really didn't like it much. It was more of a "I want to do something for the holiday season.". It had taken the bitterness of the cranberry juice and the tartness of one of the cherry juices and amplified it to the point I had lemon mouth. The only person who said they liked it was humoring me, I found out later. I put it in my closet and forgot about it , until close to the next Christmas when I was looking for something else. Decided what the hell, try it again. It is amazing now, and everyone enjoyed it...Had five empty bottles to take home that night.

  • @fuolku1006
    @fuolku1006 4 года назад

    im sure yeast doesnt die when freezed.
    my bread yeast packet says translated to english:
    storage: preferably cold. opened package stays for week. in freezer stays for months.
    sorry for bad translation.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад

      Not instantly no, but some die off, and over long periods of time, could be significant.

  • @LcdoEduardoNeuman
    @LcdoEduardoNeuman 4 года назад +1

    One question, can a weight (stainless steel) be placed on the bag with the fruit so that it does not float? It is advisable? Greetings from Lima, Peru.
    Una pregunta, se le puede colocar un peso (acero inoxidable) sobre la bolsa con la fruta para que no flote? Es recomendable? Saludos desde Lima Perú.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад +1

      Certainly, good idea actually.

    • @deezynutz4742
      @deezynutz4742 4 года назад

      If you use a copper weight it will attract sulfur’s and sulfides (bad off smells and tastes) and make your end product better tasting and smelling 😉

    • @darthepirate3033
      @darthepirate3033 4 года назад

      I would recommend using glass marbles in the brew bag to keep it at the bottom of the fermentor. The bag has to be small enough to keep the fruit from floating to the top though.

  • @gabrielpauly7931
    @gabrielpauly7931 6 месяцев назад

    " the less ingredients the better" ... true
    my question or pondering is why pure juice, with nothing added, costs twice what the ites and ates juice costs?

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  6 месяцев назад +2

      I couldn't say for sure, as we're not juice manufacturers!

  • @mileskdonahue75
    @mileskdonahue75 4 года назад +1

    Great video! Question: How do you account for the sugar within fruit when measuring original gravity? Is the idea that you've mashed up the fruit to the extent that you can measure the "liquid+fruit" in a hydrometer and go from there? Thanks!

  • @rickstirling2270
    @rickstirling2270 4 года назад

    Hi guys, I found it so funny that Derica wanted to call it George! I use that name ALL the time!

  • @daedaluslv2032
    @daedaluslv2032 4 года назад +1

    I make all my wines at 16 % alocohol. Never experienced mold.

  • @sobarsmachado7666
    @sobarsmachado7666 4 года назад

    OK, so we use fruits to make wine. What about using nuts, for example Peanuts, Almonds, Cashewnuts to make wine out of them and to get their flavour in the wine?

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 года назад

      You 'can' but they have oils too which can go rancid. I'm working on ways to make it happen though :)

  • @mattregan1862
    @mattregan1862 3 года назад +2

    Question: since it is important to keep your fruit cap wet, could you not weigh it down so that it stays submerged?

  • @tonydavies8683
    @tonydavies8683 4 года назад

    any chance you will ever make a blackberry mead ? would love to see/hear your take on it ...... freezing also concentrates the sugars in the fruits ..

  • @dottiespringer5098
    @dottiespringer5098 2 года назад

    I have a question for you! I hope it's not a repeat, but I've looked through your videos and not found exactly the answer I'm looking for. I've used a steam juicer on my elderberries this year and have about two gallons of elderberry juice. (This is in addition to canned syrup and jam and many pounds of berries still in the freezer... I may have a problem.)
    What would be the best way to use that in a mead? I'm aiming for a semi-dry mead, not dessert-sweet but not distractingly dry either. Just mix it with honey and add water to a target gravity? I already cleaned up one bottle bomb after backsweetening my first batch of elder wine; I'd like to avoid that by starting with a high gravity and reaching the yeast's alcohol tolerance before all the sugars are gone.
    Also, I didn't realize you were in Florida! If you hapepen to be in the Tampa-ish area and want some elderberries (or juice), I'll gladly share. I got a little carried away with the harvest this year. :D

  • @dantm1048
    @dantm1048 Год назад

    Hi @CitySteadingBrews, or other. I got hold of 2kg fresh Rhubarb. Any experience with usage for cider. Many years back I made some juice with Rhubarb and to taste lemon, vanilla and suggar. Tips combinations are welcome. Thx

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  Год назад +2

      We haven't played with rhubarb yet, it's hard to get good and fresh down here.

  • @wildheart5086
    @wildheart5086 3 года назад

    What about juice concentrate as the main product. With less water. Instead of juice in bottle or fresh fruit? How would that work?