Connect a Coleman 2 burner propane stove to a 20lb bbq tank.
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- In researching the subject of if it is legal / safe to refill a 1lb DOT39 cylinder, I reached out to the DOT, here is their response.
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Hi David,
It is illegal to transport refilled DOT-39s. We have many resources on the subject:
49 CFR 178.65 specifies (A) For cylinders manufactured prior to October 1, 1996: ‘‘Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $25,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 1809)’’ or ‘‘Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).’’ (B) For cylinders manufactured on or after October 1, 1996: ‘‘Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).’’
We produced a poster and video warning about the dangers of refilling these cylinders, as well as putting out a safety alert in 2014, notifying the general public about the safety hazard of refilling and transporting DOT 39s.
We have worked with retailers to warn them of the danger of selling such devices, but the punitive section of the regulation directly applies to the transportation of refilled cylinders.
Please let me know if I can be of any more assistance.
Cheers,
Jim
Jim McKinney
Public Affairs Specialist
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA)
Department of Transportation
James.mckinney@dot.gov
202-366-9423 (desk); 202-875-3769 (cell)"
Very helpful. I’m a charcoal guy but after the winter we just had here in Texas I’m going to invest in a propane stove for that just in case moment and this was a very helpful video. Thank for making it.
I love cooking over pecan coals, but there are times we need a stove!
I liked the birds chirping in the background.
1st time viewer here, I sub'd!!
I have the older model Coleman stove, I finally found the propane converter for it! Works good.
Do you have a link for the converter?
Thanks. I've got a Coleman Classic just like yours and wanted to make sure the adapter hose was all I needed to hook one of my propane bottles to it Thumb up. 🙂
Awsome. Hopefully this video will help someone that's getting into prepping.
I have the same setup for mine. Its been in 3 power outages and there a nessity.
I am coming back around to this but yes. Feb ice storm, May electrical storm, and then Hurricane Nicholas this year so far... I USE my Coleman stoves!
I agree 100% the 20 pound tank is better. Having said that, You can buy brand new refillable propane 1 pound bottles, they are designed to be refilled. Safe and legal. Brand is Flame King. Pretty cool.
That is a very good catch thank you! I completely forgot about the flame king. My focus was more on budget oriented and the flame king bottles tend to be a little expensive.
@@Wildersport you video was so very helpful to me, sir. How do you dispose of those 1lb canisters?
it is ( NOT) illegal to refill the 1 pound bottles. it (IS) illegal to transport the 1 pound bottles if you refill them. please read the label on the bottles. but they may have changed the laws since then and many states may have made laws against it. but i refill them with no problems. been doing it for years you just have to be safe and take all precautions. now im not telling anyone to do it nor am i giving legal advice. like i said, read the label on the 1 pound bottles
Hello Dave. I camp with a Mr. Heater and an old Coleman burner. Can I buy fittings that attach to their respective hoses to turn them into a quick disconnects or do I have to buy quick disconnect hoses? Love your channel!
Does the buddy heater hose work for this coleman stove?
Really great and informative.
Found this helpful as far as hooking up the big tank to the camp stove, but my camp stove has 2 burners and requires 2 of those demon green cans! Is there some sort of hose connection to make 1 attachment at the big tank and a "splitter" or something to hook the two places the green tanks would go? Thanks.
Appreciate this video
Thanks for sharing
Great video. Where did you get the hose?
It's an old hose. I probably got it at Walmart. Tank to appliance hoses are on Amazon for cheap though...
I'm looking for a hose for my two burner on a bbq tank
The valves in the 1lb canisters are not designed for refilling and are dangerous.
I have an Atwood 3 burner in pop-up that runs off tank that's plumbed to hook up. Question do I need a regulator on the adapter hose if I choose to use cook stove (portable) some place else? Thanks
Not familiar with the Atwood. But pop ups typically use one or two 20lb bbq tanks. You are effectively running off the same supply. So if the mfg used a regulator in the fuel line you should use one in an adapter hose.
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What is the part sticking out of the stove?? You didn't mention what that was and where you got that and the connector tube.
Are you talking about the silver tube on the right as you face the stove? That is the regulator that comes with the Coleman Propane stove. If you mean the black Hose, that is an old Coleman hose, the current model is amzn.to/3iN7Gou and features a plastic handwheel now making it more comfortable to use when cold.
Is 100 pound cylinder can be used?
So the hose with the regulator is not necessary?
The metal pipe that comes out of the side of the stove that attaches to the hose is the regulator. I have a propane shower other than the Zodi that uses standard BBQ hoses and fittings and MUST use the hose with a regulator in it... I can connect a propane lantern via a distribution tree to the 20lb tank and no it does not require a regulator. It all depends on the appliance.
Hello, don't you need a regulator or filter and where can i get that hose???
The stove has a regulator. That is what that pipe with the knob on it is for, not just to make a connection to a bottle. And no filter needed. The Mr. Heater buddy heaters however DO need a filter.
What is that hose called?
Propane adapter hose. amzn.to/3iN7Gou
Thanks !
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I haven't been able to get the gas to flow to my Coleman stove using the 5lb propane tank. I contacted Coleman, they told me the unit is designed for either the 1lb cylinder or 20 lb tank. I tried the 20lb route, still no flow, any suggestions?
Check the hose, possibly the regulator.
did you find a solution @Michael Campbell i have a new stove and i cannot get flow to it or if i do, it burns off in 10 seconds and then there is nothing again
@@ex_yz I gave up, bought a new stove (Camp Chef) and am currently trying to sell my Coleman Stove. Coleman was not helpful at all. Only rec offered was to turn the propane a,quarter turn to ignite and once there was a visible flame, turn on full. I couldn't get as much as a peep of flame
Ivr been struggling with the same issue since last year. I know it should work, that's why i haven't given up. It seems like the flow stops at the regulator that comes with the grill meant for 1lb cans. When i plug in to the 20lb tank it seems like the regular stops flow, back to the 1lb and it works fine
@@daftnord4957 tightning the hose that connects to the stove regulator, with pliers worked for me. hand tight wouldnt seat properly. worked everytime now if i use pliers
I'm trying that same start up and I don't know why the propane ain't coming out of the tank. I turned the bleeder screw for 4 mins and still nothing comes out when all is connected. using a 5 inch propane hose assembly
Hey Carlos I'm not sure because you didn't say you checked it but when you connect the hose and all did you make sure you turn the gas on at the tank before turning on the stove side? And I am not sure what you mean by the bleeder screw.
@@Wildersport you're not going to believe this brother but I bought the 5-in 1 lb to 20 lb conversion hose from Walmart and the 20 lb propane tank this is what happened after posting that message on your video I went to Walmart to get help and to find out why it was working and this is what happened somebody went inside Walmart and bought a new conversion hose then returned their old conversion hose and since it looked good and was still nice Walmart restocked it and we sold it and with my luck I happened to buy it. Closer investigation you can see the where's that the hose has so in all actuality the hose that I bought from Walmart was bad. They told me they could not restock it or resell it so they were not going to replace it with the newer one and on top of that it wasn't even a product that they sold as far as the hose was the type of hose. So that's why it doesn't work it's because the hose I bought from Walmart somebody had returned it with thorough hose and Walmart restocked it for resale and with my luck I was a lucky person to buy a no good one pound to 20 lb propane conversion hose LOL life is good God is good amen 😎💯🤣
Would a 30 pound tank work the same way?
If it has the standard RV / BBQ tank POL valve, and not some odd forklift fuel tank then it should.
@@Wildersport Thanks.
We refill our 20 LB saves money
2:33...a paint brush is better-!!
It is absolutely legal to refill a 1lb tank for personal use . You need to check your facts. It took all of 30 seconds to learn that you were ignorant of the truth and need to apologize to the individuals refilling legally.
William, Thank you for your feedback, however no I do not owe anyone refilling DOT39 cylinders any sort of apology. I made it rather clear that I was simplifying my statement in the video. Since you insist though please read on...
Prior to making this video, I was tasked as part of my prior job role with creating safety presentations for our organization. Our group consisted of a variety of folks that enjoyed outdoor activities ranging from total newbies to folks that might have pretty much hiked the width and breadth of the continent over the decades and everything in between, so yes, Propane safety was a good topic. With the Mr. Heater adapters being found at our local Walmart it was a concern brought to my attention and so I did my research. Instead of trusting a 30 second Google search I investigated with the authoritative source. The United States Department of Transportation Public Affairs Office. Please feel free to reach out to the DOT and their public affairs office for further clarification if you need to. However I did indeed do my research. And yes to a very limited extent you are sort of correct. Yes it is legal to refill, but illegal to transport refilled 1lb propane canisters. I stand by my statement though as the most common use for 1lb cylinders is to be transported and used. Here is the body of email response I got from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
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Hi David,
It is illegal to transport refilled DOT-39s. We have many resources on the subject:
49 CFR 178.65 specifies (A) For cylinders manufactured prior to October 1, 1996: ‘‘Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $25,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 1809)’’ or ‘‘Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).’’ (B) For cylinders manufactured on or after October 1, 1996: ‘‘Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).’’
We produced a poster and video warning about the dangers of refilling these cylinders, as well as putting out a safety alert in 2014, notifying the general public about the safety hazard of refilling and transporting DOT 39s.
We have worked with retailers to warn them of the danger of selling such devices, but the punitive section of the regulation directly applies to the transportation of refilled cylinders.
Please let me know if I can be of any more assistance.
Cheers,
Jim
Jim McKinney
Public Affairs Specialist
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA)
Department of Transportation
James.mckinney@dot.gov
202-366-9423 (desk); 202-875-3769 (cell)"
@@Wildersport I can appreciate that DOT does not want these containers transported and that's creating a grey area by DOT on admission. I would not recommend transporting these devices per DOT, mainly because of wall thickness and the lack of a relief valve. They can be refilled for home use admittedly with some risk or one can purchase a certified 1 lb refillable canister from Flame King and transport them with the approval from DOT and that would be my recommendation.