WCS Valencia Finals! Has(Cheeselord) vs Serral(The Finnisher)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- The dramatic conclusion of another exciting WCS Circuit event, and a dramatic clash of two very very different players and playstyles.
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Thank you Has for making professional players feel the pain of the lower ladder cheeseland!
cjfletcher325 it’s no longer just the lower league man. Now the whole NA server is cheesy. If you hate cheese, play on EU.
If you play EU you're just going to get cheesed.
Sooner or later, they are going to make AI cheese too, you'll never be safe.
JustThatTaco technically is AI cheese....(rushes)
@@justthattaco531 AlphaCheese is the new Google project
Has is playing Protoss just like Terran, clearing creep with his mineral based units, with a warp prism medivac transport, charge as stim LOL
Roasted Lemon what’s that avatar @„Roasted Lemon“
@@KenjiVdusc It's Yukino Yukinoshita from OreGairu. Hope that helps.
it's actually good and incredible at the same time that players are bringing something new and unique on the table after so many years. Has' strategies are all around the containing of the opponent in the main, or at best the natural. He focuses on that, leaving behind all the common fundamentals (both strategic and technical) of the game. that is AWESOME, even if he loses (btw he got to the finals which is still a huge result).
spirit_crusher spirit crusher? Are you going to crush spirits?
This is such fun to watch gameplay. This game stagnates at the pro level so much that it's more like a formal dance and the one to lose is usually just the first one to make a mistake. To use a music analogy, most pro players are like math rock shred masters who have completely mastered their instruments but have no soul and Has is like an old blues player whose technique might not be the best, but they play three notes and you have goosebumps. If he makes the other pros start to play with heart, then so much the better.
It isn't breaking the norms. It's a new spin on the old cannon-rush before the TO's re-mapped ramps so they couldn't be blocked.
It's also not "playing with soul." It's simply playing with, "I can't compete with the best, so I'll use every cheesy shortcut I can come up with and hope to steal the win."
It is interesting - for now - but it will get old. That said, I do agree that the top level is a bit like a formality now. It's just perfect timing and mechanics to the point that you wonder why a calculator doesn't just decide who wins. Have you ever met them in person? They have such insane OCD at the concept of ever doing anything off script from a build order or timing perspective.
can you really call it cheese if it works on a consistent basis ?
And today, dreams were dashed, memes were created, Serral won the game, and Has won my heart.
well said sir
I love the overlay of Winter swimming in the Spawningpool :D
In all honesty without a lick of sarcasm, this is one of the best finals I have ever seen. It is so refreshing to see a player such as Has at this level. He reminds me of my all time favorite player SoS but more extreme on the cheesy side. StarCraft is a strategy game but with most the pros playing the conventional ways even with their god-like apm and mindgames, it gets boring for me. But this, this I can watch all day long. This is why I love Has and SoS.
Sadface... hoped Has would take home the victory...
In a way - Has did win - because I usually find Starcraft matches utterly dull to watch, but this tournament I was glued to the screen.
Thank you for the entertainment Has!
Watching Has play has really made me appreciate Serral. Has just makes some blatant mistakes, losing those immortals in game 3 and stuff like that I really think he would have won some more games in this series.
10:08 perfect music timing lol
used to be the biggest mlg sc2 nerd back in the beginning, and after watching some pro play for the first time in years, i can say this guy is a great caster lol. want to pat him on the back
You're right about serral interviews. Almost as emotionless as abuthur, but twice as efficient at zerg clearly.
If you've ever seen an interview by a Finnish dude, like Patrik Laine or Kimi Räikkönen... they're all exactly the same.
Has's micro is incredible, but Serral's macro is just too good
That HAS to be the best Warp Prism micro ever...
First time in my life that i see such proxy Hatchery.
Nerchio did that vs Has earlier in the tournament and I guess Serral figured that it was a good idea. Serral is notorious for picking up strats on the fly and either using them or adapting them for his future games. The man is a knowledge sponge.
LIGHTDX So you are gonna cheese my cheese? Time to smell the bacon!
The mental speed serral has is incredible, im convinced he processes information twice as fast as the others.
Chargelots didn't work the first time, better keep doing it.
Despite being a Serral fan and always sad to see him lose a map, game #2 is possibly my favourite SC2 game of all time. Hilarious.
26:53 MAH HEART WAS POUNDING AF
"if he just got rid of the probe he could get rid of so many probelems!"
hes like the abathur of protoss
10:08 oh, the tension music came right on time
HAS is an absolute MADLAD
33:09
When you think of a funny joke but you miss your opportunity.
Serral: why you no meta?!
Has:. Pfft, tactics...
I think Has will have an allergic reaction now. Taking a third gas! Blech! He is SOO allergic to that THING!
34:20 if he just got rid of the probe, he could get rid of so many probelems 8) 8) 8)
8:45
Too real
You know, "Cheesecraft" is a much more entertaining spectator-sport... :p
I mean, watching SOS cheese game after game got me interested in this stuff to begin with.
Yo. Give it to Has. Doesn't follow the META. Comes up with his own things. Makes it work. Best player ever. Absolute best.
This game, the protoss looks like zerg and the zerg looks like terran
I don't think Has should have left Game 3. Without roach warren and spawning pool all Serral could build was drones and overlords. It is hard to kill zergling with immortals, but with some patience he could have done it. Spawning pool take a lot of time and also Serral couldn't afford much spending with that few drones. 200 minerals + 1 drone for the pool is a lot. If you want a roach warren as well you need another drone and 150 minerals. This is taking a lot of time. With good micro I think Has could have won, even with just 3 immortals.
erf no
Has played really boring this tournament. Yes, they were off meta builds, but he typically went seven gate zealot rush 80% of the matches in the ENTIRE tournament.
If you cheese in every single of your game can you even call it a cheese anymore?
PS: no hate towards cheeses and/or Has I love everyone
Man I miss husky so so much
bo7 -> 55 minutes ;]
The cheese is so good. Serrel was close to losing a few times there.
HAS is my favorite player
I mean come on he cheesed his whole career and got to the finals,second place like wtf
darkhorse0404 nothing wrong with cheese
Malcom Clark what if your cheesing doesn’t work and get beaten 4-1?
So is this Has guy the 4th race?
Deja vu ! I have been to this place before !( didnt lowko cast it ? Or sc2hl?)
Pop Khorne both...
STAR MAN hahaha but i guess thats fair i mean its fckin has vs fckin serral in a final
They did, but winter is far more entertaining and he doesnt just cast the games he explains in detail whats going on
I always thought the song says I have been to space before.
just make a few more queens! seriously would squash all these cheese attempts.
how come all that cheese didn't work?!?
😋
Cheeselord xD Btw, Has is great. Shakin up the meta, makin the pros feel some ladder pain!
Its funny that Pewdiepie influences how other people speak now, thats how big he is.
Um... No.
You realize that Pewdiepie wasn't the first one who invented that way of speaking, right? That shit is old. At best, he popularized it more off his personal brand he grew into a juggernaut, with a lot of factors going into it, but also, yeah, with that noteworthy personality.
is it just me, or does this gameplay look more starcraft then current or prior. 9 unit micro to determine the ability to play the game...
Gotta give it to HAS, he's got balls, big balls, to pull these stunts
Well maybe because he had no other choice.
If you cannot match Serral in mechanics, play to your strengths.
Tactics - Scarlett
Speed - Rayner
Cheese - Has
@@AdmiralBison i like it. He has an approach all his own. I only wish his approach can guarantee a better win rate. Cause its freaking great to see in action.
Not even close baby
This was not as entertaining as the breaking the meta video and ruined my self cause someone suggested i watch this from last video but watched for winter commentary since he is the best caster imo XD
Hey, don't diss the mentality of Finns we aren't yelling Americans alright =)
Guys. can someone please PRO-toss my salad? That would be great.
Who’s better, dark or serral?
Have you watched their matchups all year in 2018?
Has just needs a transitional plan. You cant just have plan A and nothing else. That's not a good strategy
starcraft isnt on steam :(
its on battle.net like all the blizzard games^^
Hello there Winter!
42:58 name of song?
winter do you think you could make it to code s
Winter does not want to play competitively because according to his own words he sucks. He would rather be a streamer / entertainer.
I wonder why the zerg never tried to 12 pool 13 gas when he knew he was getting cheese everygame.
I believe the mindset is that to win, he needs to both survive and have the economy to overcome the opponent. if you simply play a faster build for units, you lose out of the progression you are needing for the mid game, making Has's gameplan more effective.
Alan Frias ruclips.net/video/hibHEveElro/видео.html if u Watch this video, u will understand why ppl like playing long game vs Has. Just watch game 3, starting from 39:32.
Has is so outclassed what am I watching
As a bronze protoss myself, Has is my hero!
how the hell did has get to the final any way?!!! HE IS SO BAD!!!
has is the opposite of maru
I watched that 2nd game on stream and I had a seizure
Yes, that oracle was clearly very turned on
When you see serral 1300 apm :)
FINNISH HIM!
Micro vs macro on display here.
serral displayed better micro as well so no
One third of the day one
gotta love HAS xD
Has is a POS for trying to cheese 3 times in a row like this..
“Cheeselord”
I feel like I would like your content more if your microphone volume was higher than the background crap going on. I feel like I have to concentrate to listen to what you're saying.
Just my 2 cents.
i wanted the cheezlord to bring it home for us dirty cheese players
Serral 2 op
Do you have to have your face on the whole fkn video?
PROOF WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL! TRUMP 2020
Has should ve won
If you really think that I can't express my feelings without insulting you ...
Sp4tenkeks fucc off
Why? Serral is just overall the better player, that's why he wins everything outside of korea right now and cheese is definitly not what will break the brick wall that is know to us as Serral.
Yeah but has cheesed sooo much,he wemt for the most retarded strats and won,serral is kinda standard
And why would "retarded" strats be good? Cheese definitly has it's place in Starcraft 2 but as soon as cheese makes it to the final of a big tournament, something is wrong. Oh and btw isn't it a lot more interesting to see 2 really good players (Showtime vs Serral) fight it out a final in long macro games from which you can learn to improve your own gameplay or would you rather watch this lame final with Serral stomping the cheese?
The match is great. But the commentator us sooooo boring
I wish has would shower and get a haircut before her goes to these events. I root against him simply because of how deplorable he looks whenever he shows up.
Has is not Cheese he is just Mr Unconventional. Most entertaining player.