Anime Compositing in After Effects
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Let's learn about Anime compositing! Part one!
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I worked as a compositor in a western anime style TV show (Pantheon) and I need to say that what I did at my job and what you showed in your video is pretty much EXACTLY the same. I remember using the same plug-ins, the OLM Smoother to give anti-aliasing to the lines, the magenta shadow masks I had to color key and recolour... It's crazy! Hahaha
Love that show!
Same though in my process I make the image sequences videos before sending them to AE or Davinci. It keeps the shots to exact length without slowing down the renderer.
Are you guys working on Season 2? I Love that show!
@@jelanibyrd5031 My contract ended December last year. I worked on a good chunk of Season 2 stuff. I think it's pretty much ready, AMC just didn't release it.
I cannot get into too much detail, so I'll leave it at that :p
@@Satierf_art sounds like good news to me!! Thanks!
Edit: btw who’s your favorite character and scene that you worked on? Just curious.
I never thought of how anime is composited but this is actually so cool to see.
yea
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holy shit man i've been looking for this for eternity, despite of how anime became so popular there's almost to nothing about actual japanese compositing tips you can find seriously i can't thank you enough
I've been casually animating for years and have been watching videos on the production pipeline for a similar amount of time, but this is the first I've seen to detail how to do compositing really well!
Thanks Dong Chang, we're lucky to have you!
What I love about this is that I've not seen many videos on RUclips explaining this as well as you have, sir. Thank you so much!
As someone who is exploring this technique in my own personal use, I have made a few videos on TikTok and Instagram Reels of how I replicated this type of compositing in other software such as Clip Studio Paint or HitFilm Pro.
HOWEVER, one of my TikTok videos went viral because hundreds of people started to comment that "the anime industry does not use aliased lines!" These were commenters that were not animators, nor did they show any proof disproving my video.
I even got angry comments from people who say they've "graduated from a (western) animation college, and this information is incorrect!" That, or people saying "That is NOT the industry standard for animation".
This was DESPITE me sharing actual videos from anime studios showing the aliased lines being used when coloring in the cels during the process, and many Japanese animators coming to my aid and assuring commenters that I was correct in my fact-finding.
So finding this video is extremely reassuring and I'm grateful that this topic is being shared more and more. I would 100% take a masterclass of you simply teaching your entire animation process from start to finish.
I may reference/show your video as further reference that this compositing process IS INDEED used in the anime industry. Again, thank you for creating this, and I look forward to more videos!
Yes. More compositing videos. This is a subject I am very interesting in learning more. My goodness, all that work just to add a subtle touch, yet it makes all the difference. This is amazing.
As a compositor (of traditional and 3D footage) I found this incredibly fascinating! It's so different, I didn't know anime was done this way
More videos on this would be insane. There is such a lack of good anime style compositing guides in English so please keep making more of these.
Omg my brain just overloaded lol
Thanks for this... digital applications really has made so many things possible with just clicks, it's insane
RUclips randomly recommended me this video, and I'm glad it did! I've seen a ton of Anime behind the scenes videos where they show them working in After Effects, but I never understood how it all came together. This is the first video I've seen to really explain it well in a short and concise format. Would definitely love to see more of these kinds of videos!
As from the comments here, there is interests in exploring more compositing content so YES PLEASE! and Thanks Dong Chang you're really a Chad!
All your videos are so interesting and informative of actual step by step processes in actual professional environments. I don't think there's any english speaking channel that goes this indepth
*Also yes, I would love if you could go further into the topic
I would absolutely be down for another compositing vid from you. There’s a severe lack of comprehensive videos regarding the topic; especially when it comes to animation.
here's another good one buddy
ruclips.net/video/jv4axtpnZps/видео.html
couldn't agree more
Proprietary infromation im assuming.
I am in awe of how the colors can be softened without going out of bounds into areas you don't want. I had no idea that was possible! In my defense though, I am not very bright and I am used to the different approaches of illustration versus animation lol.
THIS IS SO HELPFUL DONG!! you really are helping me BIG TIME with every content you put!
I've never seen this stuff before so this was a pretty interesting video.
I never knew how much control compositors had over how an anime turns out, really cool to see a pro in action showing off how much you can affect the final product vs the animation
I've always wanted to do compositing and was really curious how anime compositing worked so this was an awesome breakdown!!
I'd love to see more videos on this ty for your hardwork!
Yes Mr Chang I’d love to! Might be good as well to explain differences of compositing pipelines (if there’s any) between several animation studios or industries for the future videos!
OMG THANK YOU I BEEN WAITTING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG XD UGH I'M SO HAPPY I CANT WAIT TO STEP UP MY ANIMATION
It is the best video about anime compositing on youtube so far.
I wanted to join the military and become a soldier for the USA spec ops. it’s kinda odd but since came across this channel I been in love whit animation. I know you might not read this but Im supper great-full you changed my pad in life.
Finally a video for which i have been waiting for so long your tutorials have helped me a lot ❤
Very cool process, thanks for shedding light on it for me!
Every time I excited for your new videos sir, thank you for teaching me a lot of things about anime and their techniques
Dude there is absolutely zero good tutorials in English about satsuei/anime compositing! This is super appreciated! Would you mind going through different scenes of popular anime and give some guides as to how they might have been composited? OR just more anime scene compositing tips in general?
you have no idea how helpful this video is thank you so much
damn i always wonder how they created or animating animation/anime in the real industry. and finally i have the answer, thank you very much for this video. i think im gonna try it tho
You have an amazing and very clear way of explaining things and you maintain an engaging tone throughout the whole video... I sincerely believe you'd be able to make bank doing paid courses. It's so generous of you to provide all this info for free here on RUclips. I wish you all the best and lots of patreon followers. I didn't even know there was an effect like the OLM Smoother.
Colud you do interviews with your colleagues and their experience s in the anime industry, nothing big five to 8 toos.
Ps: really love your channel
Thanks Dong! As a pro comper in the west, this will be incredibly useful for me since the pipelines are a little different. Two thumbs up!!! Cheers!!
Wow. I had no idea that After Effects is used for anime. Thanks for this video.
So much helpful as I am starting to dive deeper into the freelance animation industry!
I find this to be especially interesting and I would personally like it if you made a few more compositing-related videos in the future. The sorta glowy effect you showed is typically called bloom, it's common in video games, though the way it's achieved is slightly different here. Really interesting.
He estado esperando un video como este, gracias ✨
Thank you! Recreating these steps in hitfilm! Composting is always a challenge so I’d love to see more of these videos!
I love this, anime compositing is so cool!
So glad programs are catching up in making digital anime art more like anime. Back in the day all we had was RETAS. You’d scan in the animators sketches and put it into Retas Paintman after cell painting discontinued. RETAS was not one of my favourite programs it felt like colouring in ms paint but RETAS Renderman would render it beautifully for TV.
"Simpler style". Took 10 minutes to animate 3 seconds with already drawn frames and bg.
I always respected animators, but now I respect them even more. Especially when they are churning amazing fight scenes every damn week!
I really would like to see more behind the scenes of how anime are made and animated!
Excellent tutorial brother. Keep on and looking forward. Thanks for sharing! Subscribed and liked!
Wow, this is just fantastic! Thank you, the last steps are really complex to make and you explained so well. I would like to see more compositing in the future. Great video!
Thank you brother 🙏🏻 That is top quality content 💕 Please go on!
Absolutely amazing tutorial! I struggle to find these information and it’s so well presented here.
as an LO animator, I appreciate this.
Man if regular anime Compositing is this complex I don't even want to know what Kentaro waki Compositing process looks like lol
Thank you for sharing Dong 先生!
Applying special effects to a piece or animation is my favorite part
it took me 3 min to start auto watch mode , but great video thanks for sharing i will watch multiple time to get the whole picture
I did compositing work for American cartoons (Disney Channel) and it was nothing like this at all. This is shockingly more work.
finally there's a video about it
fast and concise, thanks for the tutorial would like to know more about the process
As a wise man once said, "Binge-watching anime is good for the soul." And after watching "My Name" animation, I can confirm that my soul is feeling pretty damn good right now
amazing sir, just what I was looking for.
Really awesome content my reaction unbelievable
This is so cool to see even though I'm not learning it
Love this, if you ever come up with a full tutorial of how to make a professional looking animation in the industry standard, i would watch the hell out of that
I learned lot from this tutorial. thanks
Thank you so much for the video! I try to use F's Plugins myself whenever I can, but for some reason some of them don't render the text properly in the Effect Controls panel.
Can't wait for part two!
we need more of compositing
thank you for this! Please make more of compositing topics too!
Thanks for your video! It helps me so much in my project.❤
Holy hell this was insanely useful. Thanks so much Sensei!
what i found to be interesting is how much does Compositing do the work...
Like the Line-Art with no AA (so the Compositor can Add it...)...
Overall Shadows done in Compositing etc...
Interesting... i Need to Study more on that Topic since its a Blind Spot at the moment... Interesting...
The linework can be done manually, but it makes the rest of the pipeline more difficult. It really is just using a smooth brush versus an aliased one. Nothing more.
The anti aliasing, like Dong stated, just makes it easier to pluck apart the image elements in a compositor.
And then just anti alias it there. Back on traditional cels that was not needed since the paint and ink itself is 'smooth', and digital compositing just had to keep the transparency smooth.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
So cooooll, please keep making videos like this
great video! I'm also casually making anime too
Thanks a lot. I would love to see more about Compositing!
interesting video, would have liked a comparison of before and after at the end tho
I never knew NF's plugins existed until now. You really need to dig down the internet to get the treasure.
I benefited from the video a lot, thank you
Thank you for sharing this much love
Been waiting for something like this
I've always wondered how to do this! Thanks for the video
Thank you very much for this video!
Yes please!!! Expand the topic of anime composing techniques using AE.
And more anime filters (or effects) if you please! Like "Glow", "Granulated monitor look" etc.
Thanks in advance!
Ugh. Almost forgot! Special thanks for the shadowing technique using specific color! So easy but too hard to guess. : )
Very interesting! I didn't think keying out a white background like that was industry standard practice. Would have figured they'd use an alpha channel format.
Thank you so much for this! This was a huge help for a project I'm working on!
I would really love to do anime-style compositing like this, but I can't afford an After Effects subscription. Are there any good, affordable alternatives that anyone can recommend for compositing similar to this?
Natron (open source, Nuke style workflow)
DaVinci Resolve (proprietary, but has a free version that is still very capable despite some reductions, and it also has a compositing engine)
Neither of these will accept the workflow of this video, but both can do everything that was shown in it (and more). You just have to approach it differently.
So, if you understand what is being done in this video, then, with some studying, you can achieve it in those programs once you know how.
Pirate it
yeah i'd like to know more about
compositing
THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS!!!
Is there an OLM smoother you can use just in Clip Studio if you are just doing 1 drawing and don't want to use After Effects?
If you're doing a still image and are not going to import to AE, just draw with a smoother, anti-aliased brush right off the bat.
The pixelized lines are used so colours can be easily selected, adjusted or changed compositing later on. We use the OLM Smoother to make them look how they're always supposed to look.
The reason we don't get smooth lines from animation is because if you need to change the colour of her hoodie in comp, for example, the anti-aliasing would make it 1000x harder as some pixels that are in-between the hoodie's colour and the line's colour wouldn't change along with the rest, making it look like someone lazily used the bucket tool in MS Paint to change the colour.
So we get the pixelized lines to get full control over the colour areas. Then we add the smoother.
@@Satierf_art hey man your comments on this video have been super helpful but i was wondering if you could point me towards some more good places to learn compositing? ive been trying to do a lot of research but would love your insight.
@@coatMVs I might not be the best person to ask as I only did one gig as a compositor and it's not what I usually go for.
What I had in my portfolio were some school projects and stuff I did for fun! Mostly using After Effects to make some of my concepts have motion and feel more alive, as well as some shots with camera moves and effects like Rim Lights and blurs.
Compositing is all about making all the elements of a scene fit together in a way that they all look like they're in the same world as well as adding some post-production and polish quality to the shots. Without compositing, shots look rough and unfinished (and that's something there's too few examples in the internet).
I guess you can just do a project for fun. Draw and paint some characters and backgrounds (you can even animate them if you have the time and are willing to do it) and make a little pitch trailer, giving the scenes some motion and some life with lighting, camera moves and all that. Also, matching characters colours to the environment in a natural way is very important.
But yeah, I am not the best person to ask. I never actively put together a compositing portfolio, I just had a tab on my portfolio with some stuff I did in After Effects and some process breakdowns and that seemed to work my way when landing a compositing gig.
Hope that helps at least a little bit, but definitely reach out somebody who does compositing more consistently to get better advice :)
So cool !
Thank you as always
Can you make a video covering how and what to practice to make it to the anime industry overall ?
Maybe some fun exercises that you used to do or how to study an anime scene ? :)
Man, this is so much information to take in xD
Thank you so much Dong!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ this is exactly what I needed uwu
Interesting that so many animation companies use After Effects and VFX use Nuke. I know which one I prefer.
thanks for the tutorial, can you please make a tutorial on action lines/ moving outlines in action scene.
thank you so much, it's exactly what I was looking for !
We need more
Interesting to see why anime cels are often blurry, even at 1080p
bro all the stuff just flew out of my ear 11:15 can´t even remember half of the steps.
This is quite informative, been compositing for a while so i found this quite useful knowledge. Question though, is there a reason the f color key is preferred to the Keylight plugin? also is there a particular reason the composition size is different from the actual render size
dude! your videos are awesome! please keep it up!
Obrigado por compartilhar seu conhecimento connosco m
I appreciate these videos so much
ありがとうございます!👍
This is such a weird way to do things, with the aliased lines and color key shadow. You'd think it's easier to use a format that can store an alpha layer and just export without the background. But I guess that's tradition.
brooooooo you help me a lotttt thankyouuuuuuuu !!!! 😭
wow this was super informative. thanks for telling us about this. Look, I dont want to come across as weird or anything, but im also an animator as well. I know I don't have anything posted yet, but I haven't found the inspiration yet, but I think this might be the boost I need.
Will you please let me ont o your show sometime? I bet I can give really interesting perspective on the anime industry as I have watched it since I was 13 years old!
xoxo
Can't thank you enough!
I would love a before and after shot.
hey dong, i love your video, i have a suggestion to make, maybe you could incorporate
zoom in or zoom out in your video, sometime things like setting (like you are showing a lot here) are hard to see (for me at least), love your video, also a question if i may, if i apply to a studio in japan (or any place) as a complete beginner (fresh grad), do the studio gonna give some kind of training first or straight into a project? thank you