Watercolor VS India Ink ☾ Painting Pros + Cons

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @cattkingsgrave2247
    @cattkingsgrave2247 5 лет назад +12

    I did a lot of mixed media painting in my Underhill Arts days, and what I found about combining india ink in paint mode with watercolors is that the ink HAD to be the last thing I put down. Because it's waterproof, it created a repelling layer on the paper that the water based paint can't really sink through. Layering more ink on ink is fine, because the ink will stick to itself, but trying to put watercolor on top is basically like painting a layer of latex down first. The pigment will be there, but it will also brush off and smudge very easily.
    If you're looking for a blendable medium that works amazingly well in process with watercolors, consider chalk pastels. There's a fascinating play between the chalk pigments and the watercolor blend that I could play with for days on end. I still enjoy adding india ink to my watercolor works, but I always save that step for last.

    • @teresafuller3912
      @teresafuller3912 4 года назад

      i noticed that. makes for an interesting texture tho

  • @lexcraftsandstuff1677
    @lexcraftsandstuff1677 6 лет назад +61

    I really want to see more of your painting with the inks. They seemed to go on so nicely. I might have to try them some day

  • @KimberlyCrick
    @KimberlyCrick 6 лет назад +71

    I love using both watercolor and the PH Martin's Bombay india inks in the same painting. Sometimes if I know I want a color on the bottom layer that is prone to re-wetting easily in watercolor form, I'll start with the ink instead so that the bottom layers are totally waterproof. Nice part is the india ink, even though waterproof, still allows you to glaze layers on top with watercolor OR more inks. I was also really happy with the quality of those india inks, all the colors are totally lightfast and they are so vibrant. There are 24 colors that can be mixed to get some darker values, my only problem with the india inks is their brown colors tend to be very gunky/have pigment separation. These pieces turned out beautiful, the green hair was a really cool design in the linework!

    • @Xan1120
      @Xan1120 6 лет назад +3

      Kimberly Crick Art I agree! I usually use a set of Ecoline liquid watercolors or watercolor pencils when painting in combination with inks, as I feel it makes it easier for the colors be used simultaneously. I typically will draft my piece in watercolor pencil, blend out some areas for base hues, and then add more through details with liquid watercolor and inks on top, so that I get the same softness I like in my work, while still having the ability to rework things if I need, as the liquid watercolors can still lift some like regular ones.

    • @kitsunethefeytouched
      @kitsunethefeytouched 6 лет назад

      The browns are a disappointment in the set, but I've had good results using a dropper to remove small amounts of the browns from the bottle to a metal pallet and then mixing/using them from there, since you can remix just moments before putting brush to paper again.

  • @GlitterandReverie
    @GlitterandReverie 6 лет назад +11

    I actually have recently fell in love with using acrylic ink and watercolors together in pieces. I like to add base washes in water color and then add more deep rich colors and details with inks. then do more glazing with the watercolors. It's been a lot of fun for me :)

  • @hannahnott-concepttoart7141
    @hannahnott-concepttoart7141 6 лет назад +2

    You can make the india ink more flexible with gum arabic. I use a solution of 1:1 water and gum arabic. Dip my brush in this then pick up my diluted ink on the brush as well then put it to paper. It makes the ink more flexible and behave just like watercolor - reactivate-able and liftable (almost to white!). If you want to use inks and still have those gradients where you just want them, gum arabic is perfect

  • @JenniferCharleeArt
    @JenniferCharleeArt 6 лет назад +25

    This was really informative. I've been wanting to experiment more with both and was wondering about all the differences. I'm curious about using the inks on the hot press paper since I have some that I haven't enjoyed using with watercolor but I may enjoy using inks on it more. My main concern is that I have gotten so accustom to always being able to rewet watercolor and not wasting any paint. I think I may start doing underpaintings in ink and use watercolor on top for more depth and detail.

    • @fuzzywondersock1722
      @fuzzywondersock1722 6 лет назад +2

      I have never thought of doing an underpainting in that way, I always use purple or brown watercolor to do it, thanks for sharing that idea!

  • @evelynl.4554
    @evelynl.4554 3 года назад +2

    I love Bombay India Ink way more than water color. I love the permanence and lightfast qualities. To do subtle shifts in color it’s easier to slowly build up with glazing than to lay the color on thick at once. I also have much more control and crispness with inks than watercolor.
    I like watercolor, but not as much as the inks. The inks work so much better with the way I paint…I prefer to build up and with watercolors I always muddy up the picture with watercolor.

  • @julianneholzschuh5552
    @julianneholzschuh5552 6 лет назад +3

    I've found that layering different colors will allow you to get darker colors with India inks. The only problem is it can start feeling water resistant after you've built up a lot of layers.
    For smooth gradients with the inks, it really helps to wet the paper first, and work wet into wet. You can get very subtle transitions this way

  • @Scereyaha
    @Scereyaha 6 лет назад +31

    Somewhere very precise around 3:26 the whole screen flashes red... I managed to pause it enough to confirm there's nothing on it and it just appears to be flat red.
    Have you made something using both?

    • @mochibunnyan6556
      @mochibunnyan6556 4 года назад +2

      Scereyaha yeah... wonder whats up with that

  • @droddy9768
    @droddy9768 6 лет назад +5

    For India ink, you have to layer them to get a darker color. Sometimes it doesn't get dark enough so I have to use like charcoal. Then go over again with India ink.

  • @ArtWorkOfDR
    @ArtWorkOfDR 6 лет назад +2

    When I was getting back into watercolor a few years back I actually picked up my first set of Bombay India inks and fell in love with Painting with them I like putting them down as a base layer because as u said with watercolor it reactivates but the inks do I also like the vibrant colors I can get from inks but I love opinions I have with watercolor and as well as Gouache using them all in one piece can be a lot of fun any way live both of these nicely done Doll

  • @fuzzywondersock1722
    @fuzzywondersock1722 6 лет назад +27

    I'm basically exclusively a watercolor person, but I dabbled in ink for a while. The main drawback I had was it was easier to ruin my materials. It's entirely my fault, but the way I work doesn't involve cleaning my palette (or brushes) off after painting. I do this because it saves paint for later and makes it easier to get "muddy" earthtones which I love. I have ruined a few palettes (and brushes) by letting ink dry there because I forget about the permanent aspect. Again, totally not the inks' fault, it's mine, but it's why I prefer watercolor. (Disclaimer: this method of not cleaning after painting is not for everyone and that's ok please don't come at me I'm just a person who likes "muddy" colors)

    • @kitsunethefeytouched
      @kitsunethefeytouched 6 лет назад +8

      Pick up a metal serving plate from your local Salvation Army type-store and use that as a pallet for your inks. If they dry to the pallet you can soak the thing with rubbing alcohol to clean it. Or, at least, that's what I did.

    • @fuzzywondersock1722
      @fuzzywondersock1722 6 лет назад

      @@kitsunethefeytouched thanks for the tip!

    • @kitsunethefeytouched
      @kitsunethefeytouched 5 лет назад

      @@fuzzywondersock1722 You're welcome. All I have are plastic pallets and I hate that I could never see the exact colour I was making. I still kinda have that problem, but I now compensate by using a sheet of spare paper to test colours on before I use them.

  • @nicolecastanheira1954
    @nicolecastanheira1954 6 лет назад +1

    I'm anxious to see more of your potential on personal takes for the Egyptian Mythology. I follow your work since last year and oh my, what I love watching is an artist doing their design for a myth or a god.

  • @christinegoodnight2915
    @christinegoodnight2915 6 лет назад +1

    Lately, I have been experimenting with mixing the two. I don't know if it will keep in an archival quality (that is to say after a decade or more), but thus far, I have found that laying down inks as my base layers and taking advantage of their steadfast qualities and then building on top of them with watercolors works really well. I only mention the archival thing because, in art school, I overhear a teacher scolding a student for mixing charcoal and ink in the same piece. According to her, something about their chemical structures don't keep the same way under the same conditions (like the ink would yellow or the charcoal break down or otherwise become more dull). So, who knows what will happen with these pieces in the long term

  • @SarahNewburyArt
    @SarahNewburyArt 6 лет назад +3

    Hi! This was really useful and interesting, thank you! I’ve used inks quite a lot on cold pressed paper but now want to try hot pressed! Like the idea of using both ink and watercolour on a painting to make use of both their properties 😊💙

  • @HeatherBryant22
    @HeatherBryant22 6 лет назад

    I love using both the PH Martain and Inktense as under paintings and then using other mediums on top!! I agree they each have pros and cons but the outcome of combining the two is fun!

  • @preet4920
    @preet4920 6 лет назад +3

    The woman with blue green hair is so beautiful i love it❤

  • @charlottesmom
    @charlottesmom Год назад

    Thank you for this video, it was a question I just thought up while shopping for ink...

  • @lifeismusicparnadonkers
    @lifeismusicparnadonkers Год назад

    I love to paint whit the cheap budget brand Pebeo. I use acrylic,oil and watercolours of pebeo. I paint whit 5 colours all the same colours for my diffrent paints. Alizarin crimson,Cadmium primary Yellow,ultramarine blue,tittanium white and mars black. My extra colours are gold,silver and magenta. I love magenta. After this i wanna try Winsor and Newton paints. I love you,re ink and you,re watercolour paintings

  • @BengtRosini13
    @BengtRosini13 4 года назад

    I recently bought a set of the Dr. Ph Martin's India Inks and thus far I like them though have experienced the same issue you mentioned about value limits on the strong end. This is only with the color hues, as the black ink is just that, black as can be expected save for Vanta Black. I still need to get some proper watercolors as I've only used watercolor pencils.

  • @hkandm4s23
    @hkandm4s23 6 лет назад

    Laovaan has a video talking about how he uses both.... He mentioned that is easy to over saturate the colors when using the inks in skin tones but he tends to mix them. Both came or beautifully, I definitely think you should incorporate ink washes where it seems helpful in your watercolor process

  • @7h1n9
    @7h1n9 6 лет назад +19

    What’s that red flash a bit before 3:27??

    • @lexcraftsandstuff1677
      @lexcraftsandstuff1677 6 лет назад +4

      It’s just an editing glitch

    • @aleahdodson1889
      @aleahdodson1889 6 лет назад +2

      Joanne Flynn it’s just plain red there’s no image on it so it’s not a secret message lol idk y it’s there or where it came from though

    • @fuzzywondersock1722
      @fuzzywondersock1722 6 лет назад +1

      I assumed it was her hair jumping into the frame since it's currently dyed bright red, but I could be very wrong

    • @fernandamartins9851
      @fernandamartins9851 6 лет назад

      @@fuzzywondersock1722 makes sense

    • @notimpressedever277
      @notimpressedever277 6 лет назад +4

      fuzzywondersock no I paused it at the exact time and it’s too perfect and bright and uniform to be hair. It’s definitely just a glitch.

  • @leilazerrouki7040
    @leilazerrouki7040 6 лет назад +2

    Be careful when using both watercolors and inks, inks can go on top of watercolors but the reverse can be tricky as inks are waterproof/ water-resistant. Many mediums are kind of difficult on top of ink, black India ink in particular. I don't know the composition of the bombay inks, if the colored one are in fact shellac with dye/pigment or not. On both cases they can go on top of things but some things can't really go very well on top of them. Or they can but with limits. To have dark shadows, I know that we should not add black go got a darker shadow but with the winsor and newton for instance as the black ink is real india ink with a viscosity to add it on medium/light colors can help darken it in a beautiful way (it depends, some will stay transparent, some won't mix well and some will become a kind of pretty tinted black). And it can give reaaally pretty shadows. Plus using the ink nearly pure can got it more saturated which means darker if you used light wash with a lot of water beneath. On that point they act like watercolor. I'm surprised you that had darker shadows with watercolor. I experience the contrary... But I have quality inks and medium to low range watercolors.

  • @kitsunethefeytouched
    @kitsunethefeytouched 6 лет назад

    Trying to get the darker values with India ink is incredibly difficult. I've found that adding a black wash (pre lightened considerably) can help, but its something you really have to play with. I have used my India inks to outline, but not yo do a base with watercolour. I would be very interested in a video where you lay it out for us step by step, and discuss what you're using and why, while you play with both.

  • @ciannacoleman5125
    @ciannacoleman5125 4 года назад

    I’ve never seen anyone use a rigged as their main brush, you use it with such ease

  • @BumbleteaArt
    @BumbleteaArt 4 года назад

    I'm so happy I found another artist to watch

  • @Hallxwxxn
    @Hallxwxxn 5 лет назад

    I’d love to see you do more paintings with the ink!

  • @lifeismusicparnadonkers
    @lifeismusicparnadonkers Год назад

    Hello Dancia Sills. I have a question. Can you do a acrylic vs oils comparison? I love to see that thank you if you do

  • @mariepelosi23
    @mariepelosi23 6 лет назад +2

    Yes I really love mixing my media's... Great work... New Subscriber...

  • @Trish0978
    @Trish0978 6 лет назад

    I feel like, from the way it looks how you used them, you were able to get that kind of "effortless"/natural gradient in the hair color whereas with the inks you were able to get a bit more of a line arty look/a stronger line art (also really cool looking), which makes sense given everything you said, but I think that's pretty cool

  • @RAWD77
    @RAWD77 6 лет назад

    I use India inks for dark colors, dark shades, and some mid tones. Watercolor for mids & light tones. That way I'm not pushing my darks out the way. As I would do with watercolor

  • @birdy369
    @birdy369 2 года назад

    EXCELLENT video thank you so much. I've been split with where I wanted to go on my color journey - having been a graphite/charcoal artist since forever - thoughhhh I'm still such an indecisive decider... I liiiiike ink, but watercolor may be more... beginner friendly?

  • @thatonebean2179
    @thatonebean2179 6 лет назад

    I FLIPPING LOVE THE INDIA INK DRAWING! HOLY HECK

  • @tamaradahlager8233
    @tamaradahlager8233 4 года назад

    I like inks both inktense and ph martins

  • @gabrielricks8340
    @gabrielricks8340 4 года назад

    I use both together in my current work. What is mentioned here is spot on. Watercolor is great for textures and India ink is perfect for line work. Watercolor = free mover. India ink = concrete.

  • @josephangel4905
    @josephangel4905 3 года назад

    Can you line with the ink then color with alcohol markers without picking up the ink on the marker nib?

  • @emilythesmelly
    @emilythesmelly 6 лет назад +2

    Do you find that one or the other is more likely to warp the paper? I know what paper you use and if you stretch it etc. is going to affect it, but I was wondering if ink v watercolors affected it, too.

    • @fuzzywondersock1722
      @fuzzywondersock1722 6 лет назад +2

      With the paper I use it is pretty much the same amount of warping, but like you said it really does depend on a lot of variables. I use 100% cotton watercolor paper weighted as high as I can find.

  • @lifeismusicparnadonkers
    @lifeismusicparnadonkers Год назад

    I wanna try Pebeo oil and acrylic paints. They are a frence paint brand and i wanna see if i paint better whit Pebeo than the expensivere paints i,ve used in the past. I,ve used every medium and i always come back to acrylic paints. I wanna try oils too. Pebeo its not expensive you get in the Pebeo oil,s 30 tubes of 20 ml for 38,36 and the acrylic set comes in also 30 tubes of 20 ml. So if these are the right paints for me than i am so happy. I,ve been sick of using expensive paints and not using them cause i don,t like them. I love you,re India inkt and watercolour paintings

  • @kioshekat7931
    @kioshekat7931 3 года назад

    I know you usually post the list of main supplies but I was wondering what are your top brushes for painting line art?

  • @calska140
    @calska140 3 года назад

    well they are kind of the same in that the ink youve used is pigment based. i bet that water color paint solution and pigment based inks have roughly the same color particle size. i'd love to see a comparison with dye based inks like diamine inks. dye based inks seems easier to blend, merge, and intensify. also they have sheen effects to play with which is really cool. i may be totally off though, my skill is definitely not as great as yours so my ability to judge it is probably not as great. what i do know is i love the crispness and constancy of inks. i try to do extremely fine detail drawing work that looks gradient from a distance and ink has been great for that.

  • @craftynails8487
    @craftynails8487 2 года назад

    Hi , while shading do you dry brush in tissue paper

  • @Jazzatic2011
    @Jazzatic2011 4 года назад

    What if you used rubbing alcohol with the India inks. Does it blend better?
    I always find your work to be top notch and it’s interesting how you use different mediums.

  • @MeekNotWeak77
    @MeekNotWeak77 5 лет назад

    This was really helpful thanks! love the paintings.

  • @domhardycreative1635
    @domhardycreative1635 6 лет назад

    I am going to try india ink after this! Thank you :)

  • @lifeismusicparnadonkers
    @lifeismusicparnadonkers 4 года назад

    I have orderd the india bombay ink set 1. And i have watercolours from the Dutch brand ecoline. I wanna use both for my drawings. But my india bombay inkt set whitch i orderd today will be at my home on wensday the 30 of december. I realy wanna buy the second set of India inkt of dr Ph Martins but that set is more expensive and the first set. Yeah thats my status on the watercolours and the india inkt dr ph martins

  • @koshkathecat6550
    @koshkathecat6550 5 лет назад

    Do you draw directly on your watercolor pad? Or do you draw the sketch beforehand and transfer it? I'm curious what the best way to start a watercolor painting would be. I was inspired by your paintings and I think it would be really awesome to experiment with portrait similar to the example you showcased in the video.

  • @alwaysalways1907
    @alwaysalways1907 5 лет назад

    What brushes are you using please? :) your thin lines look great with them

  • @a.stubbs962
    @a.stubbs962 4 года назад

    Hi danica! I found this video when i was searching about india ink set which i just bought from a local art supply, but just wondered what brand your point brush is. May i ask what brush you use?

  • @lifeismusicparnadonkers
    @lifeismusicparnadonkers 4 года назад

    OMG i love you,re art. I love both girls.

  • @aleahdodson1889
    @aleahdodson1889 6 лет назад

    What colour do you sketch in is that yellow-green? And would you recommend it over anything else only because I love painting with watercolour and I’m starting to think about potentially inking it after like you do

  • @hisashi660
    @hisashi660 6 лет назад +5

    When she said that it's kinda hard to get a nice smooth wash with watercolor on hot pressed paper I immediately thought of Laovaan watercolor paintings xD
    He's the KING of smooth watercolors haha :'D

  • @ParadiseofDarkness
    @ParadiseofDarkness 6 лет назад

    Hi do you do story like pictures instead of headshots? Do you make your own comics or something more to your art?

  • @geraldineconway1865
    @geraldineconway1865 5 лет назад

    Beautiful work

  • @wirormiror
    @wirormiror 6 лет назад

    Having use both acrylic ink and watercolors, I have to admit I like the liberty of watercolor and it's texture a bit more than the inks. Acrylic ink are great to work with until it makes small deposit in the bottle (maybe I got a defective one but the blue made weird crystaline deposit which sometimes made weird blue blotches in an otherwise well mixed purple). I also prefer the texture of watercolors and have to admit I am a big fan of earthy tones, which tends to look better in watercolor. Nowadays I reserve my inks to lineart only with a specific brush so it doesn't ruins my good brushes (the acrylic part tends to ruin the bristles over time much quicker than watercolors). I did not test india inks per se because the only ones available here are caligraphy inks (which are not waterproof at all).

    • @kitsunethefeytouched
      @kitsunethefeytouched 6 лет назад

      Have you tried India ink or just acrylic inks? It would be interesting to see the difference from someone who has used both.

    • @wirormiror
      @wirormiror 6 лет назад

      @@kitsunethefeytouched haha just go to the end of the post, I did write down that I couldn't try india inks that weren't for calligraphy only due to availability in shops :) I tried some black calligraphy inks, but for lettering only and the speedball onewas terrible with nibs hence why i went to acrylic ink. But yeah I am curious on how the ph martin one works they seem gorgous to work with but a tad expensive. I still like acrylic inks but mostly for line art because it tends to ruin my paint bruses. As with everything acrylic, I wouln't recommend using real bristle brushes. Synthetic ones work and cleans best with them or metal nibs if you like them. Sorry I'm not the best help, haha

    • @kitsunethefeytouched
      @kitsunethefeytouched 6 лет назад +1

      @@wirormiror That's what I get for responding before reading all of it. They sound like an interesting art supply though.

  • @kraftykat1048
    @kraftykat1048 5 лет назад

    Can you use same brushes for ink and watercolor? Or do you need designated ink brushes? Thanks,

    • @TerminalJack505
      @TerminalJack505 5 лет назад +1

      Yes, you can use the same brushes. When using watercolors you can clean the brushes with water and soap but you may need a harsher cleaner when using India ink. If you use the Dr. Ph. Martin's Bombay India inks then their so-called Pen Cleaner product will work best for cleaning brushes.

  • @LuxStrangelove
    @LuxStrangelove 4 года назад

    What brushes are you using?

  • @meriimouse8140
    @meriimouse8140 6 лет назад +3

    Where did you get, or how did you make, the glass thing you are taping your painting to?

    • @hanneulveseth7006
      @hanneulveseth7006 6 лет назад +3

      isnt it just a glass pane from a picture frame with tape on the edges.

    • @meriimouse8140
      @meriimouse8140 6 лет назад

      @@hanneulveseth7006 I was thinking it was but I just thought of asking

  • @averyn.v.432
    @averyn.v.432 6 лет назад +1

    Danica, your style reminds me a lot of the art style in the cartoon 'Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated'. Anyone else see that?

  • @irinairinka6915
    @irinairinka6915 6 лет назад

    There was a moment I think with the know where you have have the line art and half not. I think that would work great for you,to do line art only on the things you want eyes drawn to and things in the background or not needing that sharpness to be left as is,or lined with the same color,it will still show.

  • @dangodaydreams7872
    @dangodaydreams7872 6 лет назад

    How on earth could anyone dislike this??

  • @anony5021
    @anony5021 4 года назад

    Ty. helpful

  • @celinaglasglow2512
    @celinaglasglow2512 6 лет назад

    What is the brandname of your brushes ? :)

  • @izzysauls7737
    @izzysauls7737 6 лет назад +3

    Yoooo did anyone else see that flash of red at 3:27

  • @talonmclaren2070
    @talonmclaren2070 3 года назад

    Brilliant

  • @mikuenjoyerXD
    @mikuenjoyerXD 6 лет назад

    I really want india inks to get more popular!!

  • @oppalitenight7228
    @oppalitenight7228 6 лет назад

    Both of those are Dope :)

  • @JFOX720
    @JFOX720 6 лет назад

    Very nice!

  • @rebbecahisrael2631
    @rebbecahisrael2631 6 лет назад

    Amazing Art 💙You

  • @zimrianispresent8123
    @zimrianispresent8123 6 лет назад

    It said 1k when I liked!! 👌👽👌

  • @PMacMoraes
    @PMacMoraes 6 лет назад

    Ugh yes, the Payne's grey problem.

  • @mckenziezialcita1700
    @mckenziezialcita1700 5 лет назад +1

    went to subscribe and realized I already was lol

  • @カルマルビジウム
    @カルマルビジウム 6 лет назад

    Why am I watching this I don't even use water color lol.

  • @beau9026
    @beau9026 6 лет назад

    I can paint with ink but I can't with water color... Why is that 😲😲

  • @LihimSidhe
    @LihimSidhe 5 месяцев назад

    so i watched two of danica's vids. they've been helpful. but what i've noticed is while she pushes her patreon and shop hard, she can't be bothered to interact with her comment section at all. pretty s--tty if you ask me. oh well.

  • @beanstaIkjack
    @beanstaIkjack 5 лет назад

    So quiet

  • @Trish0978
    @Trish0978 6 лет назад +14

    I feel like, from the way it looks how you used them, you were able to get that kind of "effortless"/natural gradient in the hair color whereas with the inks you were able to get a bit more of a line arty look/a stronger line art (also really cool looking), which makes sense given everything you said, but I think that's pretty cool