The truth about oil in your blood stream | Dr William Li

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  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
  • What is the journey of oil in your bodies when you eat a fatty foods?
    Dr William Li joins Jonathan to explore the topic.
    Dr. Li is a world-leading specialist in blood vessels and preventative health, and the author of countless papers on the topic. He possesses the gift for communicating about this complex subject in terms we can all understand.
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  • @davesmith826
    @davesmith826 3 месяца назад +30

    Think about it this way: almost all the animals our forebears hunted and killed were not fat in the way that farmed cattle, fish, poultry, or lamb are. They existed in their own food chains, where getting fat meant getting eaten. What modern farming has done is remove predators from the equation, giving us meats that contain vastly more fat than you'll see in any game animal. Add in the food that these animals are fed - the lowest quality corn money can be, ground up vegetables that are unfit for human consumption - and you can see why these foods might be unhealthy.

    • @beantreats
      @beantreats 3 месяца назад +3

      Well put

    • @annakissed3226
      @annakissed3226 3 месяца назад +3

      Yes, your correct stockade farming as practiced in the USA by Big Ag is terrible and should be banned. Which it largely is in Europe. Most Ruminants live on grass.
      And yes your right we have genetically engineered Ruminants via selecting animals with 'acceptable' traits. But that is as nothing to how much plants have been completely changed. If you compare a natural cabbage/brussel sprout/broccoli/kale? To the what we eat now, it would be considered inedible given that you would first need to strip it of all its woody bits, its thorns, it's hard scaly outer, and then you would need to cook it for a lot of hours at high heat to kill off all the chemical weapons its produces to kill anything that tries to eat it.

    • @ellie698
      @ellie698 3 месяца назад +1

      Good point!

    • @brucejensen3081
      @brucejensen3081 3 месяца назад

      Yes, did depend a bit on climate, with fat stores, but basically correct. They also didn't eat much energy dense carbohydrate. The argument you put forward is that we should be eating like a kilogram of protein per day and very low on other macros. I don't think that would be optimal

    • @mikecrawford9537
      @mikecrawford9537 3 месяца назад +1

      Wild bison still have a lot of fat (more or less seasonally), in the areas of their body which are designed to store fat. This fat would have been the most valuable part of the animal. It seems obvious that our ancestors ate a lot of fat. There are plenty of humans who eat plenty of fat with no issues at all, it's the carbs which are the issue.

  • @billywade4916
    @billywade4916 3 месяца назад +2

    My 2 favourite nutritional experts in a video !!!!!

    • @bonwrentaylor2743
      @bonwrentaylor2743 3 месяца назад +1

      Dr Will may be a nutritional expert, Johnathan Wolf however is not ....(I also like them both though).

    • @billywade4916
      @billywade4916 3 месяца назад

      @@bonwrentaylor2743 hopefully tim spector is there (who i really meant, too much anticipation)

  • @albertnetoth-xn6of
    @albertnetoth-xn6of Месяц назад

    I do not understand. Many times it seems as if the doctors don't even want us to see clearly . Honorable exceptions . The exception is you Dr.Li. Thank you. ❤❤

  • @Caladcholg
    @Caladcholg 3 месяца назад +36

    1:08 Dr. Li, this seems to be at odds with a video ZOE did last year about the ketogenic diet where Christopher Gardner actually explained how the amount of fat in your blood (triglycerides) increases when you eat carbohydrates, and goes down when you eat a high fat diet.
    ruclips.net/video/oTccIyHjxVU/видео.htmlsi=QJ5n4vC369BsCr-N
    Around the 24:25 mark.
    Since you are specifying blood lipids, it seems both can't be true?

    • @ajayrbhat8056
      @ajayrbhat8056 3 месяца назад +5

      same doubt....

    • @gregorygreene1940
      @gregorygreene1940 3 месяца назад +16

      Welcome to the world of YT nutrition. There is a study both favorable and unfavorable to every single measurable metric out there. You are at the mercy of what the presenter cherry picks for data. Usually done in order to promote a book, diet, or supplement. Sadly, YT has become the great equalizer of all data. So much so that you can't draw any conclusions from it.

    • @Caladcholg
      @Caladcholg 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@gregorygreene1940​true that. YT or not, you think one channel at least would be able to keep it's own 'story' straight, if that's what's going on.

    • @davesmith826
      @davesmith826 3 месяца назад

      The great equaliser is Gil Carvahlo (Nutrition Made Simple)). No one comes even remotely close to him in terms of objectivity and data-driven analysis. @@gregorygreene1940

    • @followyournature
      @followyournature 3 месяца назад

      When you see the word "truth" in the title, you can bet it's not actually the truth. There is actually no single doc or medical professional that knows what is happening in our bodies... because every "body" is different and there are tons of factors to take into consideration, such as environment, physical activity, and on and on.

  • @CristinaAcosta
    @CristinaAcosta 3 месяца назад +12

    Eliminating meat and coconut oil from my diet dropped my cholesterol by about half. Despite fasting for years , my body couldn’t handle saturated fats. This advice is science based. Thanks.

  • @robertperruzza4590
    @robertperruzza4590 3 месяца назад +2

    All very confusing when these Doctors have different views and advice

  • @julliannedlc
    @julliannedlc 3 месяца назад +12

    Would love to see you folks do an episode on specific ultra processed food ingredients and if they're good or bad. Whenever I read ingredients lists I'm still not fully sure what I should be looking out for. I used to avoid "Guar Gum" because of its name, but now I'm reading that it's a form of soluable fiber and actually beneficial for controlling blood sugar. Please breakdown common ingredients like gums, acids, enriched flours, etc. It would be a delight to get more insight on this! Tim Spector and Chris van Tulleken would be perfect for discussing this topic.

    • @annettestephens5337
      @annettestephens5337 3 месяца назад

      Best and most natural way to control blood sugar is.....don’t eat much sugar / carbohydrates. Eat unprocessed fatty meat and keep carbs to low amounts and blood sugar will stay lowish and stable without the need for any blood lowering additives

    • @julliannedlc
      @julliannedlc 3 месяца назад +2

      @@annettestephens5337 I'm aware of this and am trying to limit sugar and carbohydrate intake when I can. Guar gum lowering blood sugar was just an example of how some processed food ingredients might have benefits while others don't. My apologies. I'd just like to see an episode breaking down common processed food ingredients is all. Thank you for your insights!

    • @annakissed3226
      @annakissed3226 3 месяца назад

      ​@@julliannedlc​@julliannedlc go look at Jason Fung on time restricted feeding & fasting. It doesn't matter if your carnivore or vegan, fasting can help massively. I am currently on a 1 week fast because I am on antibiotics. Bacteria cant eat Ketones so it kills the infection faster. However, antibiotics do damage our biome so I will be re-establishing the gut biome by eating lots of fermented foods e.g. kimchi, along with lactobacillus & Kefir Yogurt & eggs, blood, asian & indian meals etc

    • @annteather2826
      @annteather2826 3 месяца назад +1

      I wondered about guar gum; it sounds horribly processed, but Guar is a vegetable used in Indian cooking. I think I would much rather cook the whole guar.

    • @bobadams7654
      @bobadams7654 3 месяца назад +1

      Chris VT covers much of this in his talks. Latest ones I've found are 2 Norwegian podcasts. He always says, if you don't find it in a regular kitchen, then it's upf.

  • @AnthonyCassidy50
    @AnthonyCassidy50 3 месяца назад +9

    Wish this guy would give more evidence based commentary. "All of these conspire together to thwart the natrual resilience of our circulation"

  • @mountaingoat1806
    @mountaingoat1806 3 месяца назад +1

    Predictably, in demonising Sat fats you go after meat but not all that cheese Tim seems obsessed with.

  • @carolinesykes3636
    @carolinesykes3636 3 месяца назад

    I had very low cholesterol until I went though menopause. Total cholesterol was 2. I don’t eat UPF. Then about a year after menopause it started going up. At 6 I started taking satins having tried being vegan for a year. This seems very odd.

  • @81redddd
    @81redddd 3 месяца назад +2

    Dr gunthry has a commercial that I see on RUclips all of the time where he says you should have about three table spoons of olive oil a day 🤔

    • @roch369
      @roch369 8 часов назад

      Dr. Gunthry is a quak.

  • @davidr1431
    @davidr1431 3 месяца назад +2

    Does he actually say why circulating fat in the blood from diet is bad?

    • @kopiec6565
      @kopiec6565 3 месяца назад

      Because high levels of lipids in blood will create fatty deposits and block your arteries

  • @MsMousepusher
    @MsMousepusher 12 дней назад

    Some people watch a lot of stuff, they are pretty educated. Zoe has these scientists, but they only know one thing, and the interviewing is not very probing. For instance this guy seems to be taking quite an old fashioned line with blaming animal saturated fats on atherosclerosis and heart disease, but there's no questioning of this. What about the rise of seed oils and the concomitant rise in obesity, diabetes and heart disease? What is his proof? Wouldn't a more challenging, scientific debate be better?

  • @philipthompson4487
    @philipthompson4487 3 месяца назад +7

    How on earth does greese, go into your blood stream?

    • @simonround2439
      @simonround2439 3 месяца назад +7

      |t doesn't

    • @kopiec6565
      @kopiec6565 3 месяца назад

      Of course it does, just not directly but through the lymphatic system. What do you think happens to the fat you eat after it gets digested, how does it get absorbed?

    • @ImYourHuckleberry205
      @ImYourHuckleberry205 3 месяца назад

      @@kopiec6565 a hundred years ago they would call that dirty blood

    • @kopiec6565
      @kopiec6565 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ImYourHuckleberry205 no but lipids are after they are broken down, which is what he refers to if you weren't trying to listen to him in bad faith. Saying grease doesn't get into your blood is like saying that sucrose doesn't get into your blood, just because it's first broken down into its components.

    • @k8eekatt
      @k8eekatt 3 месяца назад +1

      It is taken in through capillaries (small blood vessels) lining the intestine. First it is broken into tiny droplets with bile, in the small intestine. You can actually see droplets of fat in the blood under a microscope trained on circulating blood in the vessels. It makes the red blood cells stick together, and clog up little passages.

  • @Pobotrol
    @Pobotrol 3 месяца назад

    Ugh, I'm more confused and unhealthy than ever! How do I lower my blood pressure? Loose weight! How do I lose weight? It's complicated!

  • @Littlejoys24
    @Littlejoys24 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m getting so confused with Zoe, I’m not sure you’re being totally clear what you mean here because at face value this seems to conflict with other content. And sadly the daily diets series was seriously lacking nuance or understanding of the arguments at hand. Still love this pod just a little disappointed at the moment.

  • @brandon3872
    @brandon3872 3 месяца назад +5

    It seems like there are some comments by AI bots on here 🤔

    • @StephenMarkTurner
      @StephenMarkTurner 3 месяца назад +1

      you mean comments like "Dynamic presentation style keeping the audience captivated and engaged from start to finish" - lol

    • @brandon3872
      @brandon3872 3 месяца назад +3

      @@StephenMarkTurner
      Lol yes, these bots aren't quite sophisticated enough to go unnoticed 😅

    • @Caladcholg
      @Caladcholg 3 месяца назад +2

      Wait until you see the one that mentions how great the 'pixles' are. I really hope these 'automatically post a generic compliment' bots aren't 'hired' by Zoe...

    • @ricado372
      @ricado372 3 месяца назад +2

      Not just bots. This channel is being targeted by trolls spouting disinformation. I caught one out the other day. He goes by nudger5 . When I started calling out his nonsense, he blocks messages . What I haven't worked out yet is why and whose interest it is to pay him.
      But clearly, someone's feeling threatened by this channel.

    • @Caladcholg
      @Caladcholg 3 месяца назад

      @@ricado372 haha, what video was that on?

  • @Imstarshine
    @Imstarshine 3 месяца назад +2

    He's not finishing sentences in the context of how the sentence began. Jumping around all over the place.

  • @Amanda_downunder
    @Amanda_downunder 3 месяца назад

    the thing is, if one has fats in the blood, how do the wonderful carbs get into our cells ??? Also, @Peter Rogers MD has done videos on oils, fat, blood sludge. I prefer HCLF. #love my carbs #no carb phobia here

    • @brucejensen3081
      @brucejensen3081 3 месяца назад

      Carbs are the preferred source, but will deplete rapidly. If you want to last longer than 5 minutes, you need some fats for sustained energy

  • @gails2134
    @gails2134 3 месяца назад

    I hate these videos that stop practically in mid-sentence. Is there a way to tell when it's just a piece and not the whole thing up front?

  • @Richard_L_Y
    @Richard_L_Y 3 месяца назад +2

    This was interesting, except, right at the most important part, it's cut. Totally unprofessional, insulting, and counterproductive; to say the least.

  • @jodonn2285
    @jodonn2285 3 месяца назад +3

    Zoe, your losing your way, please stop lecturing ppl and help ppl

  • @ttfan3257
    @ttfan3257 3 месяца назад

    cdn

  • @ellie698
    @ellie698 3 месяца назад

    Why does this finish halfway through a sentence 😡😡😡😡😡

  • @jamesalles139
    @jamesalles139 3 месяца назад +1

    No. It is the continuous grains, sugar and industrial seed oil consumption.
    A one-two punch to our glycocalyx.
    I eat a plate of spaghetti, and my blood pressure goes up.
    sigh.

  • @kevinostler
    @kevinostler 3 месяца назад +4

    Very biased. Mixing processed foods with red meat. Was looking for the discussion about fat? Fat does not go straight into the blood it is digested and broken down to monoglycerides and fatty acids, then into the blood. Very disappointed in this video.

  • @ChefJollyRoger
    @ChefJollyRoger 3 месяца назад +2

    Whats with the bots?

  • @250txc
    @250txc 3 месяца назад +1

    Oil is not in your blood...lol... Fats that are broken down are carried through your body are present but it is NOT oil like in your car engine..lol This is just a click bait line for us ignorant ones.

  • @deedeedoes818
    @deedeedoes818 3 месяца назад +1

    I learnt nothing from this

  • @TomCoutfit
    @TomCoutfit 3 месяца назад +1

    What a stupid - it didn't even finish.

    • @musicloverUK
      @musicloverUK 3 месяца назад +1

      It's a 'short', the full length video link is in the blurb

  • @250txc
    @250txc 3 месяца назад

    Can't go with guy downside of fats this guys says...

  • @Michael-4
    @Michael-4 3 месяца назад +5

    Makes you wonder how we survived as a species for 100s of thousands of years eating meat. I love the informercial style of questioning to feed the answers too.

    • @tomscum61
      @tomscum61 3 месяца назад +12

      We didn't actually eat that much meat. Aside from shell fish which was easy to gather. Meat was occasionally available rather than daily.

    •  3 месяца назад +7

      Carnivore propaganda

    • @Fitzrovialitter
      @Fitzrovialitter 3 месяца назад

      ​@@tomscum61Thanks for the insight; congrats on your 100,000 years of experience.

    • @Caladcholg
      @Caladcholg 3 месяца назад

      @tomscum61 right, we didn't eat everyday. Even nowadays, once your stop mobilizing your insulin, you wonder how you even did the corporate 'eat morning, noon and night' routine we all grew up on.

    • @PETROS_GGG
      @PETROS_GGG 3 месяца назад

      @@tomscum61 "occasionally available" OK, 50 or 100 thousand years ago, meat was so "occasionally available" that our ancestors in caves carved-painted hunting animals as an "occasionally available" sport...

  • @anthonyrondolino8148
    @anthonyrondolino8148 3 месяца назад

    Lol…

  • @papag1961
    @papag1961 3 месяца назад +4

    Misinformation and disinformation

  • @julesclay8142
    @julesclay8142 3 месяца назад +1

    This guy knows absolutely zero.

  • @jimhignett6993
    @jimhignett6993 3 месяца назад +9

    Utter nonsense. This guy is out of the stone age. My lipids are spot on and I eat meat every day. I practice intermittent fasting though.

    • @alessandro3139
      @alessandro3139 3 месяца назад +3

      Like those saying smoking is bad for your health! My friend's grandfather smoke 2 packs per day and is 104!

    • @jimhignett6993
      @jimhignett6993 3 месяца назад

      @@alessandro3139 No, not at all.

    • @alessandro3139
      @alessandro3139 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jimhignett6993 Why not? He is 104 and is totally fine, smoking two packs per day since he was a teenager! If you think smoking is bad you are clearly out of the stone age!

    • @jimhignett6993
      @jimhignett6993 3 месяца назад

      @@alessandro3139 Don't be ridiculous.

    • @alessandro3139
      @alessandro3139 3 месяца назад +2

      @@jimhignett6993 I'm glad you realized that your fallacious way of reasoning, which takes one lucky case and generalizes it to the entire population, is absolutely ridiculous!

  • @Kathy-kr1sv
    @Kathy-kr1sv 3 месяца назад

    Bull#hit

  • @jonstern7511
    @jonstern7511 3 месяца назад +2

    Truly dreadful video.
    Talking about fat rather than the particular foods
    Lumping all fats together
    Perpetuating the likely saturated fat myth
    No mention of things like keto
    Saying red meat is bad when (unprocessed) it isn't
    All in all appalling. And I don't even eat meat so I've no axe to grind

  • @annettestephens5337
    @annettestephens5337 3 месяца назад +9

    I totally DISAGREE with this information. Yes I have more fats in the blood than I used to, but that’s because I eat a high fat ketogenic diet. If there was no fats in my blood I would have no energy. I am using that fat for fuel. My blood pressure is normal.

    • @TheFreeMelonSociety
      @TheFreeMelonSociety 3 месяца назад +5

      Yes.. but the point is.. it is a very physiologically impairing thing in the not too long run, for one to make the unfortunate decision to eat tons of fatty foods and so few of the more appropriate fruits and vegetables. This has been so thoroughly tested its baffling how many people are taken by the same atkins style diet that left a war-path of dead bodies in its wake. . The problems with choking your body tissues with fat have far more potential implications than just blood pressure, and a normal blood pressure is no insulation against the weight of biochemical tumult that a diet so absurdly rich in fat cultivates in your body. Anyhow, we re all trying to be healthy and doing what we feel is best. Sending best wishes for your health. God bless

    • @off-the-record6613
      @off-the-record6613 3 месяца назад

      Yes ..but you are fat adapted....if anybody reading this, if you're not fat adapted, DONT eat fat.

    • @stevelanghorn1407
      @stevelanghorn1407 3 месяца назад +2

      Heart disease is relatively low in China, Vietnam, Korea etc and they eat plenty of fatty red meat, like fatty, greasy Pork for example. What they don’t eat (yet!) is masses of processed carbs and sugar-laden fodder that we in the West habitually consume…or are “offered”@@TheFreeMelonSociety

    • @Kathryn-Alexander
      @Kathryn-Alexander 3 месяца назад

      There's a long-term downside to chronic adrenal exhaustion. As the body measures glucose, not fatty acids, as a fuel, when we rely on fats for energy the adrenals will keep secreting cortisol. That's a known fact. It can make you feel great to begin with, along with the adrenaline That's also released. The other hurdle is managing the acidity that's generated from these diets. The kidneys are limited in their capacity to eliminate acids and they have a daily threshold and what then occurs is a state of chronic acidity that is buffered by the bones. So we may not see the effects for 10 years or so in our own bodies.

  • @peterjgreaves
    @peterjgreaves 3 месяца назад +18

    Propaganda, last video for me, to many contradictions with other views even their own. Science is a debate, where you have opposing views where you make your arguments, propaganda is one eyed with no challenges to the speaker. This is very British, polite commericals nothing is challenged. Name the last guest challenged, if you cannot theres a problem.

    • @semi-mojo
      @semi-mojo 3 месяца назад +10

      Science is not debate wth

    • @Caladcholg
      @Caladcholg 3 месяца назад

      ​@semi-mojo then what is it? How do you even know what to look for?

    • @bobadams7654
      @bobadams7654 3 месяца назад +2

      @peterjgreaves can you explain a bit more about the unchallenged contradictions you've noticed?

    • @hannahmulligan1103
      @hannahmulligan1103 3 месяца назад +9

      The science is not up for debate. The problem is science is not properly understood by the general population. The general population has little understanding of how research works.
      This channel discusses what the majority of RESEARCH IS SHOWING US. What the results of the research compiled are. If you have an issue with that, you aren't looking to learn. You are looking to cherry pick from the conversation what you would like to believe. People who 'debate' science back and forth usually use one or two studies to back up their point and miss the overwhelming amount of research showing the opposite. Sometimes research as adds on and provides a greater understanding of a topic. That's different. The conflicting information you are likely thinking about is research that can be added on - there are two different types of LDL cholesterol. Pattern A and pattern B. One of them is associated with disease and the other is associated with a lower risk of disease.
      A high fat diet in items such as Grass fed butter, bacon, cottage cheese, etc. Increases the beneficial pattern.
      Regardless of this though, a high fat diet combined with a high carb diet will result in higher triglycerides and weight gain.
      I think the reason the channel is not condoning a high fat diet is because they encourage a high fiber diet. Fiber is a carb. If you were eating a high fiber diet, you would likely be eating a high carbohydrate diet. It wouldn't be beneficial for your health.
      They also do not tell people that they cannot eat bread or carbs. Most of the listeners have not cut carbs from gluten containing items. To advice them to eat a high fat diet may be harmful. Hopefully they have an episode where they get into the different patterns of LDL cholesterol. :) I think that would fill in some missing peices and add to the conversation.

    • @hannahmulligan1103
      @hannahmulligan1103 3 месяца назад +2

      To determine what type of pattern you have, you would need an advanced cholesterol panel completed. You can ask your doctor for this though they likely won't complete it. You'll have to pay for it privately.

  • @anitahernandez1207
    @anitahernandez1207 3 месяца назад +4

    My blood pressure is good, 112/70 from recent check up 👍I am omnivore because God allowed the consumption of meat for a reason, probably due to the effects of the Global Flood on vegetation and animal life. However, in the Bible, the Levites, since their service at the temple took them away from the benefits of year round farming, were allowed to consume parts of the animal sacrifice as food. They were not to consume the fat from animal sacrifices. That was to be cut away from the meat and cooked separately as an aroma. This does not mean that God was tasting that or needed fat for himself. He needed that ancient nation to be healthy (those that adhered to the laws) for the birth of a Messiah, which would not arrive for a few thousand years later. That law of not eating the fat, did not apply to the entire nation but served as an example to the nation. Other nations had their own laws or customs on how to eat meat, which is why many of them suffered from health problems. They did not bleed meat properly or raise them properly. They also did not understand the ecosystem in the way that knowing how animals eat, their microbiomes and what would be healthy to consume for longevity. The problem today is not necessarily the fat but mostly, how the animals are raised. Animals are raised to be fattier because they are fed corn and soy (GMO and organic plants, normally not part of their intended diet). That is what God did not want Ancient Israel to do. He did not need them to be experimenting with livestock and hurting their health to get the most flavorful cut of meat. Pasture raised, grass fed, grass finished with no added soy or corn was how they ate their meat. They are leaner by nature but the modern processed food world complicated the assimilation of fat in people by adding excess sugars, GMO produce, altering genetics of animals, excessive processed carbohydrates, pasteurizing milk, etc. Now, for many, their systems need a resetting.