Supporter code(remember to renew): creators.nexon.com/s/vashcowaii%236354?serviceId=74 Forgot to add 2 things to the video: 1) Analysis master can apply to her unique weapon if you have it equipped on whatever weapon you used before you swapped. This would only really matter if you're doing aggressive melody and buffing gun damage because Analysis Master only reduces Firearm Crit Resist. If you're in a skill-team, then it is worthless. On that same note however you can as you see in the video, as luna end the AOE early if you know the reg buff will last long enough on your teammates and pull out a gun to try and debuff the target. In this case it was python for the -toxin res effect. 2) I forgot to add an insult on the build screen so have it here instead: if you screenshot and dip, you enjoy eating cauliflower. Weirdos. I'm working on getting the update ready for the website, ideally I should have the update finished before I go to sleep today but we'll see. Worst case scenario, I finish the update tomorrow. The luna teambuffs option on the calculator is super cool though and it'll help you build out any character you want to when using a luna in your team.
Even after they make her less miserable to play, her other biggest drawback is that she's useless if the team isn't built to use her buffs effectively... so she's basically never going to be useful in PUGs, only coordinated group play. Her potential is so high but only a small fraction of the playerbase is ever going to see or benefit from it.
A team of randoms may not know how Luna works, and doesn't know if she is using aggressive melody or not. She relies on a pre made team. If she ends up on a team with another Luna, things become problematic.
True, but that's the same for most support chars. You don't need 2 lunas/yujins/ajaxes. Maybe 2x enzo for 100% uptime 4, but in randoms they're more likely to cancel each other.
This argument is just as stupid the 50th time as it was the first. You don't pick your transcendent mod based on your party, you pick it based on *the content you chose to play*. The last few colossi are all gun-based encounters, so you always take aggressive melody. If you aren't running those colossi, then you don't. This isn't rocket science. Luna is one of the least played descendants in the game. You are never going to see another Luna on a team. If that changes with her rework, it still only takes all of 2 seconds to type in the chat who you're going to concentrate on buffing. The only problem with the character right now is the difficulty of setting up and maintaining her buffs.
I literally play this game after seeing her promos. . The problem with playing her, or any support in this game is, we are relying too much for other players to at least do something and not hugging the floor in public, in coordinated private team, sure.
No, it doesn’t. You can buff either skill damage (better), either weapon damage but not both. When matchmaking with randoms you don’t know the team in advance. Don’t listen to this clown, if you know how to build and play her as AoE dealer, she’s second to the broken Freyna for mob clearing… and it’s much more fun to play.
Im glad you did this video. I knew most of this about Luna, but just like your Kyle and Freyna vids theres always that 10% of details you provide that I didnt know. You killed it on R2 and your doing the same here. Salute!
Damn dude her buffs are insane. She just doesn't feel fun to play so hopefully they make her feel less jank. I've been playing a lot of Yujin and Enzo recently and they're great for Deathstalker pubs. It would be nice to have another support to play:)
"Boring" my ass videos. It's refreshing because they're to the point, math-based, and not pandering. The counter-style works because it's done constructively. We're here for information, not a twitch stream. No toxic positivity BS to be found! Thanks for all the work. While I don't like Luna myself, it's good to understand her anyway so I know how to work with a Luna in my party and know what she is trying to do so I can appreciate the good ones.
Well sounds like Luna is impractical for randoms because you're relying on RNG matchmaking to put you with someone who knows how Luna's buffs work and is built around the right kind of Luna (skill power vs firearm).
Yup, it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what a build majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN the she’s just not needed for the fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed. That’s a big frustration with trying to play Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.) I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being.
Yup, it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what a build majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN the she’s just not needed for the fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed. That’s a big frustration with trying to play Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.) I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being.
Yes, she is impractical with randoms. I play her as AoE dealer (Noise Surge) and she is great for mob clearing. For 400% and defence missions she is second to Freyna, which I refuse to play (don’t like broken stuff).
@@dinvsl Honestly, I respect his opinion not to (At the moment) because she is already getting reworked and it would suck for him to invest so much into this champ NOW and then be obsolete in a month or 3 ya know. But still, kinda sad he didnt try lol
Staying alive while hitting every note is a hassle and I can’t even look at the best part of her if I’m focused on the music mini game😫 Also most people just don’t know or care about her value. Some players already don’t stand in Ajax bubbles, OoT invasion drone wipe circles, or the various Colossi mechanic circles. So I don’t expect them to stand next to Luna😂
Vash, love your content. Are you going to be doing gun builds? Would be interesting for you to do say the top 5 weapons and who they integrate with ie Freyna and the secret garden. Showing the damage difference with or without the weapon.
Vash, I don't play First Descendant and don't plan on playing it, but just because I've discovered via Remnant that you are a fellow Spreadsheet Rat Brain Cooked Looking I find enjoyment in watching your content
Another amazing Vid, you really sound like your bored and dont care, but we all know how much you do care by the effort put into these builds. Keep up the great work.
It’s difficult to assemble a good one. From 20 drops 19 are junk, similar to the reactor drops. I tried to collect a good one, then gave up, it will take too much time. I had to beat Pyro about 3-400 times to get a relatively good Slayer set, don’t expect better experience with this one unless you’re willing to accept any trash pieces just to have the set.
@dinvsl for sure, but same could be said for bravery set as there is no solo queue. Took me 4 months of avg 15 pyro kills a day to get a double gold slayer sensor. I got on the Yujin train and got an adequate sonic set healing and should be easier now glut has been nerfed. It's clearly designed for Luna and curious how it compares.
hot take: dev should add more complicated char like luna. i admit im a warframe smoothbrain who slap everything and go. but once in a while, i'd like a trigonometry and quantum entanglement lesson before playing a character so i can better fine tune them for my preferred playstyles
We know how :D. She is a Pom Pom girl , to give you 100% crit and almost double your damage. But since she is useless in PUB, only 0,00000000001% of People actually consider her being a useful character
Appreciate the in depth look at luna. An Aggresive Melody Luna makes me wonder if she and a Firearm Enhancer Enzo can give a substantial combo to a pair of gun Gleys. On an unrelated note, do you happen to play an ult bunny with a supernova set and a peace maker equipped? I always get excited seeing another bunny running around with a peace maker.
Yea, her buffs are VERY strong, but it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what build the majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN then she’s just not really needed for that fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed. That’s a big frustration with trying to play support Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.) Trying to do any content with her utilizing her support build is just a complete coin toss, it’s either you will actually be a benefit (of course this depends on your teammates on if their actually going to stay relatively nearby to receive your buffs.) or your going to be a detriment because you came in with the wrong Ascendant module (like joining 4 Enzo’s with nimble fingers.) it’s just unnecessary frustrating. I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being. (That one isn’t much better, but at least it’s not so heavily dependent on what your teammates are doing.) Love Luna allot but she needs a lot of work. (She also has a lot of unnecessary drawbacks and is the ONLY character in the game that can actively mess up her skills, and the minigame can get very distracting/be overwhelming to manage at times.)
Yes, it sounds like you made "a lot" of great points, even though I don't use her atm. If I did, something tells me I would re-read your pros and cons. Gj, even though you didn't thank me for the grammatical correcrion. You're a lot of fun anyway.
Noise Surge is great actually. I made a quite strong non-crit. build with huge aura and good survivability and her AoE is like lawn mower. She is second to the broken Freyna for mob clearing. And it’s much more fun to play her that way instead of support for boss fights, where she may be useless if not matched with specific characters.
@@KingConan it is once u make sure the rice is soft and the butter is mixed in well with the suger like melted and then u blend the buttr with sugar then when is liquidy enough add water and blend add a lil more sugar and then mix with the soft rice white rice is bttr with it try it out its good.
Two things: God dam you! I can't trust anyone else with builds since i've discovered ur channel, and now im reliant on you cause im too lazy to do the maths myself. But thx for the calculator and the improvements, in the end i dont have teh energy to make my own, so it's good that you added teh compare feature :) Second, just for those that are confused as i am, its not 'Toxic intensive' it's 'Toxic Integration'
Nice vid luna is slept on heavily i hope you do sharen next because shes even more slept on & have done over 10 mil in 1 swipe of her sword but most say she useless just like luna
Soooo do or don't add aggressive melody here? Also, no thoughts on Hungry Sonic components? Growing tired of the same annihilation/slayer sets :') but i get it.
@ Im stupid 🥲😂 I read the mod after commenting lol Tis why I watch your videos to be explained to like a 5th grader 🥹😂 I’m waiting on the gun builds finally!
Until they fix two luna player double buff overlapping the stronger with the weaker one, i won't even touch the chick. Even if you tryhard enough to get the buffs, you also need a reliable. Once you see another Luna casting... abort to Albion.
I only play Luna in her dps build against mobs, and for bosses, I just use more suitable descendants. I hope the rework reaches her and more people start playing her; in fact, a lot could be changed for the better.
She isn’t complicated, are you just retarded? You press skill and shoot on the notes. That’s literally it. Your 30 second attention span tiktard brain can’t handle it so they gotta rework it. I’ve seen way more complicated rhythm based interactions and characters and this is not hard. You’re just a dumbass.
Idk it just so confusing for me I guess every time I do it just never works correctly ive watched to many guides but can't do it yet I can grind get and do anything in this game and destiny or any raid or puzzle and all endgame content gets destroyed but this confuses the f out of me lol
Should've made her rhythm game like BPM: Bullets Per Minute (Not opposed to making it more convenient though). Make the notes actually in line with the song/beat and just have the notes be consistent with the bpm of the song. Have each song be different bpm for "variety" if needed.
You are absolutely goated Vash. There's so much to this game and you've been my reliable resource for how things actually work instead of community yapping.
Luna is only good for mobbing cause of pugs if you can find a good team then she shines mine is only running noise surge and i don't see me changing her any time soon.
Thanks for this. As a Luna main, I already knew most of what was discussed, but I still learned a few things (such as the tooltip’s wrong values). I do seek clarification on something though. Regarding skill critical rate, is your most recent video about critical resist (2 months ago on Sep 14) still accurate?
Ye that vid is still right. Some of the values have changed since then which is why at the time I mentioned I'd keep up on it on the website, but how the values are calculated or applied has not changed since then.
Her skills are pretty much useless to me as i can't play the mini game and fight properly at the same time. So i just use her as a defensive gun platform hiding behind the freyna's and bunnies while in a dungeon.
I hate that your viewerbase seem snotty, self entitled and self absorbed. I love your content. I hate your fans. Edit: It's like everyone is trying to channel your energy and be you. It's gross.
I don't care how strong she is ( and she is ) , her trash gameplay/mechanic is enough for me to have had min maxed her for Rank and then literally deleting her
Luna is the hardest Descendant to play but Ive seen some really good Luna players. I wanted to learn more about her, shes gorgeous but I cant, its too difficult for me.
I think ppl don't really know what "strongest" means anymore. Then again, ppl are using it wrong. She actually relies on her team to be coordinated just like the skil based characters rely on a Luna to dish out good skill damage. Same with Enzo except its just firearms. Dislike for no cat in the thumbnail
For those of you saying that she’s too hard there’s plenty of brain dead characters for you to play. Just because she isn’t one that don’t mean you need to turn her into another one. People that actually enjoy the character like her the way she is maybe her notes could be a little more on beat but other than that, we’re fine over here. Stay over there.
It’s much more fun, and usually more helpful for a team, to play her as AoE dealer with Noise Surge. Works great for any 400% or defence mission (not for Colossi of course). Yesterday I got buffing Luna when I was Gley against Molten Fortress and her help was zero for my “infinite” ammo build. Buffing Luna works good for premade teams, not for teams with randoms. I tried her in support role and gave up. People should use their own heads and experience instead of listening to RUclips clowns who claim that people like me with their real 1150 in-game hours are “fuck1ng posers”.
@@VashCowaii And you play the game in Web browsers and spreadsheets obviously. 😂 She’s a great support if there are proper characters to support. And if they aren’t spread over the entire map. Doesn’t work with randoms but you can’t learn this from spreadsheets, the Laboratory or premade teams used in your videos. There are no bigger posers than people who think they represent the Absolute Truth. LOL
But see I know you know I play the actual game, because you're here video after video checking for what is next. Posture all you'd like to for everyone else to see, but I at least know you're here because you don't know half of what there is to know about the very characters you profess to play. So I'll see you next time.
Your analysis is pertinent, but the title of the video is not. The strongest, didnt do justice. I dont think she 's the strongest, and for beginner, strongest on which parameter. What is strengh in tfd... Maybe the most valuable teamate, will be most appropriate.
Do a brother a sold and come back to Remnant 2, we need your expertise on the Prism system, nobody will explain it properly, I figured it out, but I need you to confirm it or add to it.
![Lepic & the 0-Crit Bait [Optimized] - The First Descendant](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RhEg_zfxN3Y/mqdefault.jpg)
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Forgot to add 2 things to the video:
1) Analysis master can apply to her unique weapon if you have it equipped on whatever weapon you used before you swapped. This would only really matter if you're doing aggressive melody and buffing gun damage because Analysis Master only reduces Firearm Crit Resist. If you're in a skill-team, then it is worthless. On that same note however you can as you see in the video, as luna end the AOE early if you know the reg buff will last long enough on your teammates and pull out a gun to try and debuff the target. In this case it was python for the -toxin res effect.
2) I forgot to add an insult on the build screen so have it here instead: if you screenshot and dip, you enjoy eating cauliflower. Weirdos.
I'm working on getting the update ready for the website, ideally I should have the update finished before I go to sleep today but we'll see. Worst case scenario, I finish the update tomorrow. The luna teambuffs option on the calculator is super cool though and it'll help you build out any character you want to when using a luna in your team.
The hardest part of Luna is find the teammate that know her value.
@@bk-altair it’s just annoying to play the game with no sound as that’s only way I can play as her
Even after they make her less miserable to play, her other biggest drawback is that she's useless if the team isn't built to use her buffs effectively... so she's basically never going to be useful in PUGs, only coordinated group play. Her potential is so high but only a small fraction of the playerbase is ever going to see or benefit from it.
Pppffff! Every time I try to use her in group content, people just leave...
I just wish she got a mod that lets her heal even if its just for ult version
damn its almost like she has a gun mod for pubbing that they dont have to play or know what you do you just buf their WP or crit dmg
@@lunar69666 i don't even disagree with you but you gotta clean up that word salad my guy.
Yea, I mean You'd still get a buff, but you don't join a que with your "Luna" build on, hoping to find one lol.
I'd like to file a complaint for the lack of cat thumbnail 😾
Agreed. That’s the only reason I come here
Same
A team of randoms may not know how Luna works, and doesn't know if she is using aggressive melody or not.
She relies on a pre made team. If she ends up on a team with another Luna, things become problematic.
True, but that's the same for most support chars. You don't need 2 lunas/yujins/ajaxes. Maybe 2x enzo for 100% uptime 4, but in randoms they're more likely to cancel each other.
Ive never seen 2 Lunas on a team. Never.
This argument is just as stupid the 50th time as it was the first. You don't pick your transcendent mod based on your party, you pick it based on *the content you chose to play*. The last few colossi are all gun-based encounters, so you always take aggressive melody. If you aren't running those colossi, then you don't. This isn't rocket science.
Luna is one of the least played descendants in the game. You are never going to see another Luna on a team. If that changes with her rework, it still only takes all of 2 seconds to type in the chat who you're going to concentrate on buffing. The only problem with the character right now is the difficulty of setting up and maintaining her buffs.
I literally play this game after seeing her promos.
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The problem with playing her, or any support in this game is, we are relying too much for other players to at least do something and not hugging the floor in public, in coordinated private team, sure.
I've been building my Luna for last 2 weeks. This helps a lot. Thank you for the vid.
No, it doesn’t. You can buff either skill damage (better), either weapon damage but not both. When matchmaking with randoms you don’t know the team in advance.
Don’t listen to this clown, if you know how to build and play her as AoE dealer, she’s second to the broken Freyna for mob clearing… and it’s much more fun to play.
Im glad you did this video. I knew most of this about Luna, but just like your Kyle and Freyna vids theres always that 10% of details you provide that I didnt know. You killed it on R2 and your doing the same here. Salute!
You're so smart and special. Thank you for letting us know you knew most of this.
@ryukaganzeroful dont let your insecurities trigger you. Just learn and do better.
@christopherayala6964 the irony in your comment is hilarious lmao
Damn dude her buffs are insane. She just doesn't feel fun to play so hopefully they make her feel less jank.
I've been playing a lot of Yujin and Enzo recently and they're great for Deathstalker pubs. It would be nice to have another support to play:)
"Boring" my ass videos. It's refreshing because they're to the point, math-based, and not pandering. The counter-style works because it's done constructively. We're here for information, not a twitch stream. No toxic positivity BS to be found! Thanks for all the work.
While I don't like Luna myself, it's good to understand her anyway so I know how to work with a Luna in my party and know what she is trying to do so I can appreciate the good ones.
Well sounds like Luna is impractical for randoms because you're relying on RNG matchmaking to put you with someone who knows how Luna's buffs work and is built around the right kind of Luna (skill power vs firearm).
Yup, it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what a build majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN the she’s just not needed for the fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed.
That’s a big frustration with trying to play Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.)
I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being.
Yup, it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what a build majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN the she’s just not needed for the fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed.
That’s a big frustration with trying to play Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.)
I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being.
Nah just bank on aggressive almost everyone runs and shoots a gun its that easy
Yes, she is impractical with randoms. I play her as AoE dealer (Noise Surge) and she is great for mob clearing. For 400% and defence missions she is second to Freyna, which I refuse to play (don’t like broken stuff).
Where's the kitty cat thumbnail? 😢
so niche but powerful you need so much coordination with her
I asked for this.. and the fact that you said Noise Surge sucks made me sad. I out DPS a few bunnies in 400% dungeons :(
Because he’s the real poser who has never tried it. LOL This guy is playing the game only in the laboratory and spreadsheets.
@@dinvsl Honestly, I respect his opinion not to (At the moment) because she is already getting reworked and it would suck for him to invest so much into this champ NOW and then be obsolete in a month or 3 ya know. But still, kinda sad he didnt try lol
Now that the Luna video is finally out it's only uphill from here 😎
Staying alive while hitting every note is a hassle and I can’t even look at the best part of her if I’m focused on the music mini game😫 Also most people just don’t know or care about her value. Some players already don’t stand in Ajax bubbles, OoT invasion drone wipe circles, or the various Colossi mechanic circles. So I don’t expect them to stand next to Luna😂
Vash, love your content.
Are you going to be doing gun builds? Would be interesting for you to do say the top 5 weapons and who they integrate with ie Freyna and the secret garden. Showing the damage difference with or without the weapon.
Vash, I don't play First Descendant and don't plan on playing it, but just because I've discovered via Remnant that you are a fellow Spreadsheet Rat Brain Cooked Looking I find enjoyment in watching your content
Another amazing Vid, you really sound like your bored and dont care, but we all know how much you do care by the effort put into these builds. Keep up the great work.
Dang, I had guessed Arche Concretion was designed for Luna, but this is ridiculous
Great video. Wish I had a team to run this on as I actually don’t mind playing Luna 😂
What are your thoughts on hungry sonic for her, would it better for dungeons because you need to ramp it up?
Only thing i hope they change is the beat of her music, it doesn't follow the input prompts fully, it feels off imo
No mention for hungry sonic set? Its at least better than bravery and i would think better than duration sets if going for 0 duration
It’s difficult to assemble a good one. From 20 drops 19 are junk, similar to the reactor drops. I tried to collect a good one, then gave up, it will take too much time. I had to beat Pyro about 3-400 times to get a relatively good Slayer set, don’t expect better experience with this one unless you’re willing to accept any trash pieces just to have the set.
@dinvsl for sure, but same could be said for bravery set as there is no solo queue. Took me 4 months of avg 15 pyro kills a day to get a double gold slayer sensor. I got on the Yujin train and got an adequate sonic set healing and should be easier now glut has been nerfed. It's clearly designed for Luna and curious how it compares.
hot take: dev should add more complicated char like luna. i admit im a warframe smoothbrain who slap everything and go. but once in a while, i'd like a trigonometry and quantum entanglement lesson before playing a character so i can better fine tune them for my preferred playstyles
Devs should add a puppet master descendant with 8 skills
Yess Finally Luna is getting the respect she deserves 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
luna one of the best characters to make your team rage quit. Her songs always glitch my screen and I can’t aim
We know how :D.
She is a Pom Pom girl , to give you 100% crit and almost double your damage.
But since she is useless in PUB, only 0,00000000001% of People actually consider her being a useful character
Most people dont a guy tried to tell me you still build crit less freyna with a luna
@@lunar69666 Invite him for Nobel Prize
Appreciate the in depth look at luna. An Aggresive Melody Luna makes me wonder if she and a Firearm Enhancer Enzo can give a substantial combo to a pair of gun Gleys.
On an unrelated note, do you happen to play an ult bunny with a supernova set and a peace maker equipped? I always get excited seeing another bunny running around with a peace maker.
Yea, her buffs are VERY strong, but it’s a nightmare trying to do stuff like Deathstalker or any other colossus with her because of the rng of what ppl are using, about the only Colossus you can consistently know what build the majority of people are going to be running is Gluttony, but EVEN then she’s just not really needed for that fight, same with Death Stalker, her buffs are nice in that fight too but they just aren’t needed.
That’s a big frustration with trying to play support Luna in most content. (I have 16 catalysts into the character, and I LOVE playing her, but man it’s a headache to do pubs Colossi with her, and the Xbox LFG is basically dead so it’s REALLY difficult to join dedicated groups.)
Trying to do any content with her utilizing her support build is just a complete coin toss, it’s either you will actually be a benefit (of course this depends on your teammates on if their actually going to stay relatively nearby to receive your buffs.) or your going to be a detriment because you came in with the wrong Ascendant module (like joining 4 Enzo’s with nimble fingers.) it’s just unnecessary frustrating.
I’m thinking I’ll put her down till her rework, either that or just run Noise Surge Luna for the time being. (That one isn’t much better, but at least it’s not so heavily dependent on what your teammates are doing.)
Love Luna allot but she needs a lot of work.
(She also has a lot of unnecessary drawbacks and is the ONLY character in the game that can actively mess up her skills, and the minigame can get very distracting/be overwhelming to manage at times.)
"allot" is not a word. It's "a lot". ty
@@silverdollar-k4zedited.
Now do you have anything constructive to say about the actual subject of the original comment?.
Yes, it sounds like you made "a lot" of great points, even though I don't use her atm. If I did, something tells me I would re-read your pros and cons. Gj, even though you didn't thank me for the grammatical correcrion. You're a lot of fun anyway.
@@silverdollar-k4zOnly on the internet can I see stuff like this... The absolute irony lmao.
Noise Surge is great actually. I made a quite strong non-crit. build with huge aura and good survivability and her AoE is like lawn mower. She is second to the broken Freyna for mob clearing. And it’s much more fun to play her that way instead of support for boss fights, where she may be useless if not matched with specific characters.
If yall skip anything in his video you put sugar and butter on your rice
I do deal with it
Ok and?
@@yoda8569 a true menace
That sounds kinda good 😂
@@KingConan it is once u make sure the rice is soft and the butter is mixed in well with the suger like melted and then u blend the buttr with sugar then when is liquidy enough add water and blend add a lil more sugar and then mix with the soft rice white rice is bttr with it try it out its good.
I think I missed something. Should I use the Aggressive Melody mod for the Freyna buffer build?
if its a freyna you know they should be crit and you should be nimble if its a rando use aggressive cause chances are they are non crit
argh, this triggers me how the skill description numbers are not accurate. first time seeing numbers this off and rounded up.
Two things:
God dam you! I can't trust anyone else with builds since i've discovered ur channel, and now im reliant on you cause im too lazy to do the maths myself. But thx for the calculator and the improvements, in the end i dont have teh energy to make my own, so it's good that you added teh compare feature :)
Second, just for those that are confused as i am, its not 'Toxic intensive' it's 'Toxic Integration'
Nice vid luna is slept on heavily i hope you do sharen next because shes even more slept on & have done over 10 mil in 1 swipe of her sword but most say she useless just like luna
YESSSS IVEEE BEEN WAITING FOR SOOOO LONG FATHER YES YOU HAVE SEEN TRUEEE POWERRRRR
They're bullying her. (death stalker) 😢😢
Soooo do or don't add aggressive melody here?
Also, no thoughts on Hungry Sonic components?
Growing tired of the same annihilation/slayer sets :') but i get it.
Well aggressive doesn't buff skills and base doesn't buff guns. So you tell me when you should or should not use it
@ Im stupid 🥲😂 I read the mod after commenting lol Tis why I watch your videos to be explained to like a 5th grader 🥹😂
I’m waiting on the gun builds finally!
Shes like Octavia with extra steps
She def is, but those extra steps are not very fun
i was waiting for this shit for so long
finally Luna video *-*
Until they fix two luna player double buff overlapping the stronger with the weaker one, i won't even touch the chick.
Even if you tryhard enough to get the buffs, you also need a reliable.
Once you see another Luna casting... abort to Albion.
Ah the one resource I'll never be able to grind friends...
I only play Luna in her dps build against mobs, and for bosses, I just use more suitable descendants. I hope the rework reaches her and more people start playing her; in fact, a lot could be changed for the better.
How do you feel about the Hungry Sonic Set? Seems overly complicated and really not worth it.
it's a trap mainly for noise surge and its still garbage
You shouldn’t need an advanced MIT degree to understand a character.
Lol, she is simple. He is going over why she is good, she buffs if you have mad skills.
She isn’t complicated, are you just retarded?
You press skill and shoot on the notes.
That’s literally it. Your 30 second attention span tiktard brain can’t handle it so they gotta rework it.
I’ve seen way more complicated rhythm based interactions and characters and this is not hard. You’re just a dumbass.
Still complicated vs everything else
It's not really that complicated it's just a lot of information to take in because of the different things Luna can do.
Idk it just so confusing for me I guess every time I do it just never works correctly ive watched to many guides but can't do it yet I can grind get and do anything in this game and destiny or any raid or puzzle and all endgame content gets destroyed but this confuses the f out of me lol
does this work with bunny:
if we ever get a elec weak, skill dmg, boss,
is it possible to go luna + crit bunny?
Should've made her rhythm game like BPM: Bullets Per Minute (Not opposed to making it more convenient though). Make the notes actually in line with the song/beat and just have the notes be consistent with the bpm of the song. Have each song be different bpm for "variety" if needed.
Let’s goooooooo (been waiting for this vid)
I know I'm gonna hate watching this. But still
literally what I said when I started testing her lmao. It's worth learning about if nothing else
You are absolutely goated Vash. There's so much to this game and you've been my reliable resource for how things actually work instead of community yapping.
Luna is only good for mobbing cause of pugs if you can find a good team then she shines mine is only running noise surge and i don't see me changing her any time soon.
Big red, big nuke
Thanks for this. As a Luna main, I already knew most of what was discussed, but I still learned a few things (such as the tooltip’s wrong values). I do seek clarification on something though. Regarding skill critical rate, is your most recent video about critical resist (2 months ago on Sep 14) still accurate?
Ye that vid is still right. Some of the values have changed since then which is why at the time I mentioned I'd keep up on it on the website, but how the values are calculated or applied has not changed since then.
@ Cool, thanks!
Luna (in my eyes) has surpassed Gley in terms of being the most complicated Descendant in the game
Do you think you can release a fix your valby video next
Octavia?
Does nimble footsteps have any negative effects? It seems like pure upside from tooltips as long as you have energy for it.
Correct
Big brain reference for JJK
He's just trolling with the Noise Surge thing lol. People get mad so easy. Noise surge is fun in dungeons.
The God has spoken!
Bro cooked...
Did they just finish deathstalker under 40 seconds ?
Does luna buffs stack with other lunas or no?
No
I think the higher stats skill overwrites and is used
Luna desperately needs a rework # .LET.LUNA.FIRE.HER.WEAPONS.WHEN.USING.BUFFS!!!!!!! Also let her buff both weapon and skill DMG at same time
Just started her after 900 hours of playtime
Her skills are pretty much useless to me as i can't play the mini game and fight properly at the same time. So i just use her as a defensive gun platform hiding behind the freyna's and bunnies while in a dungeon.
Also why no cat on thumbnail 😢
There are times I feel like I'm an awesome gamer .... And then you post a video and I feel dumb again... lol 🙂
I hate that your viewerbase seem snotty, self entitled and self absorbed. I love your content. I hate your fans.
Edit: It's like everyone is trying to channel your energy and be you. It's gross.
Viewer is the reflection of the creator/streamer after all
I love this fucking channel, fuck.
PEAK THUMBNAIL
Why the cooldown though? It’s not affected by Lunas cooldowns… it’s static at 8 seconds for her 2 and 12 for the 3. It only affects her 1.
theres no cooldown the site has it labeled wrong
It's not mislabeled, MP accel is a "cooldown" category mod, but that doesn't mean it gives cooldown.
@@VashCowaii then I’m confused. What does it exactly gives then?
@@xlK4RMAlx literally, watch the video
Thank god
I don't care how strong she is ( and she is ) , her trash gameplay/mechanic is enough for me to have had min maxed her for Rank and then literally deleting her
Nah, I'm good.
❤❤🎉🎉Blair mains 🎉🎉
They will destroy their game with all the simplification
Luna is the hardest Descendant to play but Ive seen some really good Luna players.
I wanted to learn more about her, shes gorgeous but I cant, its too difficult for me.
Did not know aggressive melody added to base firearm crit damage, thats actually insane. Good stuff!
Yeah, very insane if the matchmaking pairs you with Haileys and Lepics who exclusively rely on their skill power, not weapons. LOL
I think ppl don't really know what "strongest" means anymore.
Then again, ppl are using it wrong. She actually relies on her team to be coordinated just like the skil based characters rely on a Luna to dish out good skill damage.
Same with Enzo except its just firearms.
Dislike for no cat in the thumbnail
i have over 500 hours in TFD and i met Luna 4 times so far in pug content. So even if you buff her x637.55 times, no one will play her.
not trusting the provided description is a pain though. I will stick to "close enough" mindset
Valby non crit Meta oh great TFD nerd
This is amazing,but as a Solo player,I will stick to Noise surge.I still can do all content in the game with her.
For those of you saying that she’s too hard there’s plenty of brain dead characters for you to play. Just because she isn’t one that don’t mean you need to turn her into another one. People that actually enjoy the character like her the way she is maybe her notes could be a little more on beat but other than that, we’re fine over here. Stay over there.
No ty.
@@VashCowaii wait a minute so you don’t like the way she is? I just want to beat that be more on par and I’m fine.
It’s much more fun, and usually more helpful for a team, to play her as AoE dealer with Noise Surge. Works great for any 400% or defence mission (not for Colossi of course).
Yesterday I got buffing Luna when I was Gley against Molten Fortress and her help was zero for my “infinite” ammo build. Buffing Luna works good for premade teams, not for teams with randoms. I tried her in support role and gave up.
People should use their own heads and experience instead of listening to RUclips clowns who claim that people like me with their real 1150 in-game hours are “fuck1ng posers”.
But you are, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, just a terrible support and a huge poser if you think that
@@VashCowaii
And you play the game in Web browsers and spreadsheets obviously. 😂 She’s a great support if there are proper characters to support. And if they aren’t spread over the entire map. Doesn’t work with randoms but you can’t learn this from spreadsheets, the Laboratory or premade teams used in your videos.
There are no bigger posers than people who think they represent the Absolute Truth. LOL
But see I know you know I play the actual game, because you're here video after video checking for what is next.
Posture all you'd like to for everyone else to see, but I at least know you're here because you don't know half of what there is to know about the very characters you profess to play.
So I'll see you next time.
Toxic Intensive mod?? don't see it in the game
please do ajax
Gley when???
Aaah~
Plss do blair next
Any buff wont make her Popular way to niche compared to any other character unless you play with a dedicated team
EwWww Luna
Your analysis is pertinent, but the title of the video is not. The strongest, didnt do justice. I dont think she 's the strongest, and for beginner, strongest on which parameter.
What is strengh in tfd...
Maybe the most valuable teamate, will be most appropriate.
Is this just me or this video is quiet as hell?
Imo i think Yujin is the strongest Decedent
I level up my Luna to 40 and left her for Hailey. I didn't like playing with Luna.
Do a brother a sold and come back to Remnant 2, we need your expertise on the Prism system, nobody will explain it properly, I figured it out, but I need you to confirm it or add to it.
I already said I'm not doing any more R2 content. That's not gonna change. If they make an R3 I'll be back to talk about that, but R2 is done
@@VashCowaii Thank you sir for your response, and I understand. Good Luck with whatever you're working on.
yeah im just gonna play Enzo if i want to be credit to team, instead of this glorified dance dance evolution character