Are AMD FX CPUs good enough for budget gamers in 2023?
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- With the price of gaming PCs and components increasing, budget gamers are having to look at the older generations. Before Ryzen there was the AMD FX CPUs and they are pretty cheap now but can you still game on them? In this video we take a look at a few options and see how well they perform with todays games.
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Every AMD FX RUclips comment section boils down to two types of comments. It's either a fondness for them, "I remember my first computer used an FX cpu and it lasted me 10 years; such a great CPU!" or "I'm still rocking my 8350 still going strong!". The other comments are like, "OMG AMD FX CPU'S ARE TRASH!!!!!" or essentially "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!!" posts. 😄
Yup the propaganda train on the internet over these cpus brainwashed narrow-minded simpletons for years.
You need to look at every variable and not just performance...
I just turned on the cpu from my first build the 4170 and it still works XD still handles win 10
@@jackdorward8636 I got Windows 10 working on an ancient AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ that runs surprisingly decent. I've got another computer with the legendary AMD Phenom II X4 965 and it runs well too.
The AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 and the FX-8350 are my favorite CPU's
Went from a Phenom II 555 unlocked to X4, then a FX4100@4ghz, then a FX6100@4ghz till a week ago I got an FX8320@4ghz. Things looking good I already maxxed my motherboard now, all I need is another 8gb stick and a better card than my current Vapor-X 7770. Long live to AMD the chips of the people. Edit: Upgraded to 16GB DDR3 1600 ram, got an 8gig Asrock RX580, a 750W Gold CoolerMaster psu and a terabyte SSD, this thing is a monster now.
I could recommend if you have more money to buy 8350 or 70.
These are really great CPUs but cant recommend also bcuz a Ryzen costs less or same prices.
But MOBOs are cheaper
@@agostonpalatinus1513 8350s with mobos are way cheaper than the cheapest brand new Ryzen combo though. Yesterday I ordered another 8gig stick so I hace 16gb ddr3 now, also i'm waiting for an SSD. It's gonna be more bearable till the 8350 comes around
Going from a 7770 to an RX580 is a huge jump and a really nice pairing with your 8320. I probably would have tried to max the RAM out to 32GB if your motherboard supported it but 16GB should still be serviceable. The 1TB SSD is a great upgrade too. About 7 years ago I put together two computers, one for my father in law and one for my nephew, that are both rocking an 8320e for basic browsing and office work. I got a hell of a deal at Microcenter and paid $90 for the 8320e and it came with a free motherboard so the value that it provided was just insane at the time. These will probably last another 10 years barring hardware failure.
I wouldn't say a monster but good on the upgrade
@@gamer8622 In most gaming and multitasking I see no difference with modern gaming computers. I built 12700 i7s with 3060s and Ryzen 5 5700s, besides gaming in high presets there's not a single difference to an old gaming system. The 8 core FXs are starting to shine.
I have owned both a FX-6300 and a FX-8350 since 2014. Both CPU's can handle most games on the market today. I [plan on buying a new PC soon with the AM4 socket, so I will be retiring my FX chips soon. FX CPU's are still a good beget buy.
Why retire it? Why not give it secondary duties? I use my to play videos or music while I am in the kitchen, for example.
@@KitsuneVosstoo power hungry.
no its a horrible buy now. For the same price you could find much faster Ryzen or Intel CPUs. IPC is just bad even for that era of CPU and it isnt a true 8 core CPU, more like a 4 "module".
I owned one for 5years. A pentium g is probably faster 🤣
@@wetpants1996 Can't buy a Ryzen unless I buy a new mother board to fit the socket, so I will just get a a whole new PC soon, but Its still holding up. Have to get a quiet fan for it otherwise the standard CPU fan will be really noisy.
@arik2216 I agree, but, if you underclock to 3.5 and get down to 1.2v or less, 25w at idle is quite achievable.
I had an FX-8350 system here recently, decent price for it when sold. The move to anything Ryzen based is a massive improvement!
indeed my buddy was lookin to upgrade from phenom 2 965 and a ryzen 1700x cropped up for under 100$ i said thats your baby there get a good mother board and your double jumping past the highest fx chip performance and at the price it was good deal. even tho its first gen 1700x for price ..still knocks my socks off and its first gen .. i cant quantify bigger and newer for my own personal use. id feel like id just be buying a Ferrari but never driving it over 30mph just tons of un used potential.. so by the time i get the scratch change to do the Big all 3 upgrade cpu mobo ram . i'll be gunning for a #700 series ryzen hopefully even cheaper used market by then lols.
This. Today a used ryzen 5 3600 goes for 50 quid (buy with warranty from certain resellers to protect yourself) a used 1080ti at 150 quid and motherboards in the 320/450 range cost nothing (get hold of asrocks b450 steel legend it is a beast for budget gaming) and DDR4 16gb is very reasonably priced now. This build would perform miles beyond the fx builds and the fx are still not cheap. How many idiots rush out to pay 200 quid for a maxwell titan from 2015 still? when you can get an rx 5700 or gtx 1080 for well under 200. Same thing, going backwards to pay more for less is nvidias marketing not the average budget gamers idea of smart.
I currently have a FX-6300 paired with a RX 560 with 16gb of ddr3 memory it’s not a fps warrior or the fastest thing in the world but it is my first gaming PC (previously being a console gamer) she atleast gets the job done really wanna upgrade her tho but it’s pricey asf 😭
Can’t go wrong with AMD….always fantastic 😎
They work fine for those who just want to play a game or two.
They should change the name from amd to af
Always fantastic
I built my dad an FX-6300 with RX 570 8GB because he only wanted to play two games: Doom 2016 and no mans sky, back when no mans sky was new.
They both ran really well on the system and he was happy because he was an artist and I was able to spend the remainder of the budget on a nice IPS monitor back when they where the hot new item. The picture quality was much better than I expected any 1080p to be. He was flooded! The colors popped so well...and doom ran at over 100 fps on the over clocked 6300 and 570 combo
Rest in peace dad I'm glad you had fun one last time!
I put together a computer with my old FX 8350 that i had used in my previous computer(CPU was used between 2013-2021. but now it is up and running again).
24 GB RAM, a 5500 XT 8gb GPU and a M2 using an adapter for a M2.
my spouse use it and seems happy with it. Works perfect for casual gaming.
Tried Diablo 4 this weekend and it had no problems running it.
Respect for reviving your old build and even making it faster and meaner. I do that with my cherished old builds aswell.
Very relevant video for this guy; getting ready to do a budget build with an FX-6300. Informative, but pertinent as always! Thank you 👏😊
After playing around with these ones the FX-6300 gained our interest. Should be a pretty decent CPU.
@@TechLabUK It is, I run one, doesnt' give me any real trouble with gaming. Though I'm considering an FX-8xxx for a cheap upgrade.
1:44 the FX 4300 outperforms the 6100 not only because of clockspeeds, but also it's one generation ahead, you should've gotten the 6350.
I had the FX4100 then the 6100 the 6100 had way better performance. Idk if the 300 of both gens are newer.
@@Toxic2T for editing and newer games yes, the 6100 should outperform the 4300 because of the extra 2 cores. And the 6350 is a newer architecture (Piledriver vs Bulldozer), so it has a slight increase in clocks and performance. This makes it an "ideal" upgrade, and I say that with quotes because the best upgrade would be the 8350, but it has almost thrice the price, at least on Aliexpress. In fact, I would argue it's better to get a 6300, slightly slower but also cheaper and with less TDP (95w vs 125w), this is useful to avoid playing roulette with the motherboard's VRMs, some state they support 125w CPUs but they actually don't.
@@sovo1212 I have the 8320E the 6300 never had a chance against the cheap FX8s. They do run good but for gaming and streaming the 4 and 6 cores struggle real bad, even when overclocked.-
@@Toxic2T Yes, the 8320E is also good because it's 95w and for modern games the extra cores are a bless. However, it's still over twice the price of a 6300/6350. And for older games even the 4300/4350 would outperform the 8320E because of having higher clockspeeds.
@@sovo1212 I paid the same price of a FX6100 for this 8320E though. FX4100, FX6100, and 8320E all of them on 4GHZ the 8 core is the smoothest one. I know I have no 300s series but thats all I could get over the years
Great video, cheers. I had an FX 8150 for a long time before upgrading to Ryzen. Loved overclocking on it
They have all surprised us tbh. For ages people told us they were awful but seem alright for what they are tbh.
I'm using a FX9590 @ stock 4.7ghz. I use it as a heater right now for the Central Coast of Cali. It games ok with a 1080 GTX.
How do you cool that thing? I am using an AM3+ stock cooler and a little gaming, it restarts.
@@alparslanmetehan9678we built a huge system around it - watercooled, huge power supply,tons of heat...
@@alparslanmetehan9678 don't use stock cooler for 9590
I had the exact same set up, as far as cooling I had a Corsair h60 water cooler and ram that rig for years
Nice video, i had the FX 4300, 6300 and the 8320e, you can OC them over 4Ghz all core easy, and near 4.5ghz too, the FX line up only support up to PCIe 2.0, so the RX 6600 that had 8 lanes is running at PCIe 2.0 8x, maybe with something like an RX 5700 with full 16 lanes will performce better or at least had better 1% and 0.1%
definitely
i noticed...cpu usage was pretty high in some cases so changinch gpu will not change results much i think but in some games...yes sure
@@theanglerfish some games are more bandwith sensitive than others, but is a bottleneck you can decreas to see if the fps get more stable
I can't go over 4.2GHZ on my 8320E by just increasing the CPU Multiplier, it starts crashing. Lucky how many people are going over 4.4. Silicon lottery I guess.
Im still running a 6350 at 4.7ghz paired with a gtx 969 200+ on core and 300 on memory. 2 x 8gb crucial ballistix 1600 1.5v. aio water-cooling. Never gets above 55c and runs recent games pretty damn well. cyberpunk medium/high/low settings mix and fsr on balanced im hitting 40fps avg.
I still use an FX 6300 though i do have an intel i5 6600k. The I5 is indeed stronger but with the fx 6300 i have no issue running newer games were the 4 core 4 thread I5 has issues.
Nice work and comparison, you should have a look at the top of the line 8370E BE, which was very much liked even back in the day, great overclocking potential with low stock wattage. 🎉🎉🎉
We just looked at what we had. This was sent to us by our community.
@@TechLabUK that's alright, in case you come by one example you may give it a go
@@robadzso If we come across one we definitely will 👍
8370E BE is still great for 1080p gaming. Haven't had any reason to change it.
I've got an fx6300 that i OC'd and paired with a R9 390. System does alright but im really thinking CPU is the bottleneck for my GPU. Looking at upgrading to a fx8350 sometime
@TechLabUK Should I try to run FX 8350 on my motherboard(GA-880GMA-USB) without flashing bios from F2 to F3 thing is I'm currently running Phenom II X6 1090T its a good CPU but its missing allot of instructions there for cant run newer games , so I bought this FX 8350 since I have AM3+ socket but I see that highest tested CPU by manufacturer on my motherboard is FX 8140 , so is it possible that CPU will work even thou its not tested by manufacturer ?
If the manufacturer doesn't have the CPU within the supported list then it most likely won't work. From what I know the higher end FX CPUs needed specific boards to run. You can try it I suppose and it should break anything but I wouldn't expect it to work though.
ha it works , F3 bios , no problems , temps 40c , so that thing that i heard if its supports AM3+ it will work its actually true
@@Uldan1988 Sweet! That's so awesome. Let us know how it performs.
I used to rock FX 6300 on 5.1GHZ all cores stable with GTX 980ti, absolut beast back then. Then I upgraded to 4790k. My two fav CPUs.
You can ABSOLUTELY game on the fx chips.
Love FX
LOVE RYZEN
LOVE A.M.D
wow im still can play games on my FX CPU...
Comeon 8350.....respect!
I have an FX 6300 which bi found locally with Asus board and 8gb DDR3 1600 for just £30. So i paired it with an old GTX 980Ti and thats worked out pretty well for the likes of world of tanks. However the graphics card runs too hot for my liking, charging up to its ceiling af 83 degrees very quickly, and this despite new thermal paste.
So ive ordered an RX 6700 10gb, thats the non XT card as ive always kinda wanted to try that card. And ive ordered 2 x 8gb 1866 speed ram so the pc doesnt feel left out with the large amount of ram on the graphics card. Yeah I know its overkill for the humble FX but im looking forward to trying this out. All the parts should arrive 17th May so wish me luck.
Sounds like an awesome setup. Good luck with the 6700, great GPU.
Let us know how that goes, I bought motherboard off eBay with this CPU since my old am3 motherboard with a phenom 960t died, I have a 7850 currently and with the racing games and shooters of that generation it works great, but I want a more powerful video card just to have a little edge.
wasnt there a 9000 range too??didnt it claim to have the first 5 gigahertz capable cpu??
Can I ask what ram are you bench marking these cup,s on. As I have the exact same set up and I freeze up my pc every time play games I use 16gb 1888
i have got the fx6300 the fx8320 also fx8350 and will still use them with windows 11 as it works with them you can turn off tpm and update the same and works just same as 10 .
I've upgraded twice since this CPU. FX8350 -> Core i7 4790K -> R9 3900X. I recently got back my old PC because from friend upgraded from the 8350 and refurbished it as a random PC to have around. I'm probably going to put Linux on it and do some less demanding stuff with it. HOWEVER it's clear to me how stupid I was to upgrade to the Core i7 4790K despite the massive single-core performance uplift I got in 2015 from the upgrade. The FX 8350 has aged remarkably well for be such a honestly kinda middling CPU over the years. It somehow chugs along and if I had stuck with it probably proved its value. I plan to be a cheap-ass with the R9 3900X and not upgrade for a while though.
"HOWEVER it's clear to me how stupid I was to upgrade to the Core i7 4790K"
I mean it was a waste of money if you never used the higher performance and if electricity is cheap in your area, but then again you upgraded to the R9 3900X - which could be considered just as much a "waste" of money then.
I have an fx 8300 paired with an HD 7700 that I just handed off to my 6 year old. While the gpu is certainly maxed out a good bit, it will still run ark and minecraft well. Planning on testing a 1050ti in it this weekend for her.
Sweet! Love it when older tech is still being enjoyed. Let us know how the 1050ti testing goes. Not had chance to play with one of those yet.
Small update. I was able to install the 1050ti and it was a lot better performance, unfortunately it started turning off and on by itself (bad power button). So I upgraded her to a little newer version. In all the 1050ti was doing extremely well with the 8309.
Good video, subscribed!
Posted this comment elsewhere, and will just copy paste it here, as it reflects my extensive experience with the FX line:
I had been using a FX 8350 extensively since 2017. From 2017-2019 in a primary gaming pc with a GTX 1080, and after that, in a secondary build, first with a RX 470, and later with a GTX 970, then a 1660 Super. Since I collect hardware I actually have a decent chunk of FX/AM3+ stuff on hand, along with AM2/AM2+, LGA 775, LGA 1151 etc. Over the past year I had been going back and testing titles released from 2017 to now on the FX 8350. I have some of the results posted on videos on my channel from this testing. First, because it should be stated. People tend to confuse this chip as being meant to contend with the i7 on the market at its launch. It wasn't. It was released in the same price bracket as the i5. Two, its launch was during the heyday of Windows 7 and 8. Neither of which were able to fully utilize the cpu properly. Better utilization did not happen until late into Windows 7 life, and during Windows 10.
Third, the FX cpu line was released during a time when games were preferring single core optimization. Many games did not utilize more than two to three cores at once. You combine this with it being during a time when even the OS did not favor the cpu, and you end up with issues. Regardless of this, it actually did run games quite well. It wasn't like you were ever suffering from extremely low frame rates. And you could have honestly closed the gap more by just maxing out visuals and cranking the resolution up to where the gpu became the bottleneck, which is what I did when I was running a GTX 1080 with my FX. Four, when Windows 10 found its footing, and game developers finally did start to break away from the single core optimization doctrine, this processor line, specifically the six and eight core releases, started to make decent gains over their old 4 core/4 thread nemesis the old i5 lines.
Which takes me to 2017 on up. I have run the 8350 against the i5 6400 in current games. You start to see it easily overtake the i5 in modern games from the last few years. Especially in the last two years. Games like Elden Ring, Sniper Elite V, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, etc. You also start to notice the i5 get choked out when it comes to getting visuals loaded in a timely manner. This especially affected Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and was very noticeable during its bench test. In Elden Ring enemies would simply not stay rendered (this issue pretty much plagues all older 4 core/4 thread processors with this game). In something like World of Tanks using its current Core engine, the i5 6400 would get chocked out at times if I was using discord while running the game, or having any other background task going on like recording gameplay. The 8350 did not suffer the same issues.
All that being said, my last test run involved with the FX 8350 paired with a RTX 2070 Super was using The Last of Us, Company of Heroes 3, and Dead Space Remastered. And this is finally where things really go south for the FX 8350. 2023 is the year of poorly optimized, bug riddled releases. And in the case of the last three games mentioned, only Company of Heroes 3 ran well. As in, you could get into a game easily, and the avg FPS of 50-60 was maintained throughout a heavy 4v4 match. Dead Space, well.... starting the game fresh, the initial space scene where the video message from Nicole is zoomed in. During that moment fps averaged into the low twenties at best. Its clearly a bug issue of some type, or a optimization issue, but it is there and it was painful. Due to this I just copied my save file over from my main gaming pc and ran the game during chapter 7. Gameplay itself was smooth, staying in the 40-70 zone depending on where you were. There was some frame dropping, but it wasnt major or anything and did not disturb combat situations.
The Last of Us was tested during patch 1.0.3.0. Funny enough the game did not crash at all, not even during the 40 min shader compilation. However in game, because the way that game loads in assets during actual gameplay, all cores/threads stayed maxed at 100 percent. If everything loaded in, you got a average between 30-40 fps. If stuff was loading in, the framerate dropped into the twenties. Gameplay may have improved since then. I have not bothered to test further with newer patches on that setup. But basically its indicative of the times. This processors magic moment where it got to shine the most really fell in during 2016-2021 time frame. 2022 was still kind to it, but just in general it was starting to really show its age. 2023 is going to be much harsher, at least when it concerns "AAA titles" released because of how poorly optimized things are going to be to where processors will have to brute force their way through issues.
It is one of those things where I wouldn't be surprised if someone started to compile a database for the FX line stating what new game releases work well, and which ones don't. Maybe someone on Vogons will start doing that, who knows. But as is, for basically a 10 year old processor, it was much more future proof and bang for buck than the 1st to 7th gen i5 line, and it can still run quite a bit of stuff being released well still. And when you factor in processors like the i5 7600k were released during a time when it was already evident that 4 core/4 thread was no longer ideal for using a mid to high end gaming build, it makes that sting so much more for owners of that processor given they were not going to get that same kind of bang for buck longevity in gaming before seeing major performance issues.
Fx 6300 with an rx6600 runs great
Excuse me! Which the best graphics card and mainboard pair with FX 6350 16-32 GB,I expect it to be able to run in high solution at 50-60+fps in a horizon zero dawn or resident evil. If it can be.
If you don't already have the mainboard you would be better off moving to a Ryzen setup. Even the first gen Ryzen CPUs kick the snot out of FX CPUs and AM4 is really cheap now.
hey, I wanna ask your opinion. is it worth upgrading from gtx 960 4gb to this GPU you’ve been using (rx 6600)? because I want to play Elden Ring and other AAA games
The RX6600 should be significantly faster than the 980 4GB and will also benefit from double the memory.
@@TechLabUK will it be a bottleneck?
@@putuandhika It depends- A 6600 will start to be the limiting factor at settings above 1080p low with processors such as the 5000 Ryzen series when playing Elden ring. If you are pairing the 6600 with an FX 8 core it will probably move that limit to settings such as 1080p high or 1440p low/medium. But you are going to have to have 16 gb of system memory to support decent frame rates especially with older cpu's/platforms. One thign to keep in mind is that Nvida gpus 10xx series and newer tend not to play very well with FX's compared to the Radeon piers due to the higher cpu overhead requirements of their drivers. This doesn't matter so much at higher graphics settings and resolutions but when trying to eek out playable framerates at lower settings on comparitively weak cpu's it can make a huge difference.
I still run a 6300. The only great downside of it is that end of support for W10 and W11 capricious requirements and threats over also ending security updates even if you can perfectly run it is making me paranoid. If that wasn't an issue, I'd be upgrading my GPU a little instead of worrying about the CPU (it's a 2GB GPU 1060 Mhz clock, does well with many games but something newer would do better, ofc).
I hope you do a test to latest titles like Elden Ring, Farcry 6 and Hogwarts Legacy
Cpu: AMD FX-8350 Gpu: Asus 1060 OC 6GB Mobo: MSI 970 Gaming Ram: ddr3 16GB HyperX @2133 some ssds. Using it with Thrustmaster wheel T500 RS and Assetto Corsa with custom shaders - sol - pure and ppfilters, Ultra settings - 4x AA - 2x MSAA - FXAA and depends the track i'm around 80-120 fps. Legit!!!! :)
Nice! Awesome to see it still running great.
Of course FX 4300 outperforms FX 6100 in some scenarios as it's newer Piledriver architecture compared to FX 6100 Bulldozer. Next time use FX 6300. (And overclock sh*t out of them, FX CPU's LOVE overclocking.)
All in all, nice video. Thanks.
got a fx8350 now up from the phenom x6 . no regurts dont have to run a sse emulator to run doom eternal and newer titles its a win imo.. and good price cpu mobo ram cooler 145S lightly used
At one point untill around 2015 i had the FX8350 and it was a nice CPU, but i've broke some pins, when i wanted to replace the old thermal paste, i ripped the whole cpu out with the cpu cooler, that i removed (it just sticked to it like glued). I've got myself a replacement for cheap, an FX8300, that i paired with 16 GB 1866 mhz DDR3 and it served me well for another year, untill i got myself the new Ryzen 5 1600 somewhere around the end of 2016 (and this was a huge upgrade to the FX cpu). Nice to see, that the FX8350 is still holding up that well. But i wouldn't recommend it nowadays, only, if someone would get a system with that specific cpu for below 100 - 150 $/€ or for free. It's just to outdated to keep up with modern tech and it is now over 10 years old and still costs used more (in some areas), than some better and newer CPUs (i would rather recommend the Intel Xeon route, because they are mostly way cheaper and more powerfull, than the AMD FX lineup and therefore gives a better budget build).
Meanwhile (since almost a year now) i am rocking the i5 13400F and it will last me for a longer time, i decided (even though i am thinking about getting something like an low powered Ryzen 7 5xxx in the near future, just for testing and for my own curiousity).
Nice video man with good content...but please try to keep the same tone on you voice; you are reducing the volume of of your voice at the end of your sentences, after a minute I thought that someone play games with the volume.
Combination of the way we speak and audio setup issues. These have been resolved in newer video but thanks for the feedback :)
Hello friend, thank you for the video. I have a question about am3+ motherboards. I have an old am3+ motherboard system with an FX-8370 processor but the motherboard is now dead. So I am undecided to buy a used am3+ motherboard because some people say that it's really not worth spending money. I have a limited budget and cannot afford for am4 motherboards nowadays. If I buy an am4 motherboard, I also need to upgrade the other components as well. So far, I haven't had a problem with my am3+ system and I have been using the system mostly for programming, researching and watching some movies. What do you think? Thanks!
I would just replace the board if you can find one cheap enough and the FX system is all you need. I would struggle to find a decent board cheap enough here though as they go for more than an AM4 system usually.
The fact that the RX 6600 XT, and 7 nm "Navi 23" silicon it's based on, physically only features a PCI-Express 4.0 x8 bus interface. The GPU only has pins for eight PCIe lanes. This was probably a design choice made to cut costs and save pin-count on the compact GPU package.
So by running PCI-E Gen 3 you are even limiting the gpu harder.
PCI-Express 4.0 x8 is a huge amount of bandwidth. Given that PCIe Gen 4 pushes 16 Gbps per direction, you're looking at 16 GB/s per direction; or at bandwidth that's identical to PCI-Express 3.0 x16. This should be plenty for a mid-range GPU like the RX 6600 XT, end of the story? But wait...there's a catch. When installed on older platforms with PCIe Gen 3, such as Intel 10th Gen "Comet Lake" (or older), or AMD Ryzen 2000 series (or older), the GPU is forced to operate at PCI-Express 3.0 x8, which is half the bandwidth of Gen 4 x8. And if you're on even older platforms, such as AMD FX, however unlikely, it's going to run at PCI-Express 2.0 x8, which is about a quarter of the bandwidth of Gen 4 x8.
Still using my FX 6300 with RX470 in 2023 😂
the only reason i changed from fx 8320 to ryzen 3600 is the sound issue in grand slam 2 tennis in rpcs3 emulator
all pc games were running very good but it cant emulate ps3 well
I'm using a FX 8350 chip for older games, I wouldn't go any higher than a RX 570 or gtx 1060 though as the bottleneck will be horrendous
what about a gtx 980?
@@qaching gtx 980 is equivalent to a gtx 1060, so bottleneck shouldn't be too high
@@Lennox032 ok thanks man
Truth, 8320E here and suffering with a VaporX 7770.
@@Toxic2T Haha still some life left in it yet! I loved those Vapor x cards.
I was wondering if the FX 4300 was similar to the A10 series of chips? (owner of the A10 7850k and 7860k systems) I never actually owned a FX chip but did have a Phenom 2 940 X4. Thanks for the informative well published video!
Never had an A10 but believe the FX are faster.
The FX 4300 is essentially an A10-6800k without the iGPU. Both are 4c/4t based on the same Piledriver architecture.
The A10-7800 series used the slightly newer Steamroller architecture, which sadly never made its way to the AM3 platform. I wonder how a hypothetical 8-core Steamroller-based FX CPU would have performed!
The A series is a further evolution of the same architecture in an APU but they are often slower since for some reason AMD decided to cripple that line with pitiful cache sizes.
@@certs743 Yes, I could feel and see that cache hurting it. The only CPU I've owned and used that got "downgraded!?" from a quad core to a dual core. It became so painfully slow last year that I had to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600 for my media PC. The crazy thing about the A10 7860k was that I had overclocked and raised the front side bus to get a "Legendary" score in 3dmark. And at its fastest, Got spanked by my Lowly Athlon 240g at a third of the power envelope. Thanks for chime in and heads up.
i have a 6350 in my current pc with a super outdated card. would it be worth just upgrading my gpu for now to something midrang? not looking for a highend card right now
We recently did a video with the 8350 and an RX 6700XT, take a look and it will show you why this kind of thing falls flat.
i use a 6300 since 2013; works pretty well, soon he will get a big brother, a ryzen 7900 X3d 🙂
Nice!
Yes but why? I have 2 fx 990 v2 boards sporting an 8120 and 8350 cpu. Both have 1060 6gb gpus and are both in use. Because I have had these for over 10 years and I look after my rigs, they are used as a server pc and 1 by my nephew for minecraft. Both are extremely capab;le but why would a budget gamer buy 1 now when you can get a 320 mobo, ryzen 5 3600 and a used rx 5700xt for less than you could still get my last gen rigs. An am4 budget set up is better performance all around.
still my main rig fx 9590 r9 290 unlocked to 290x xD
Even when I can afford a new Ryzen build, I will repurpose my FX systems. Now my Core 2 systems may be sold off or parted out. Them AMD FX CPUs did great with virtual machines that ran emulators in them. Sold off an early i7 over choking issues back then. Allowed my to max ram and upgrade the 6 core to the 8350 still use it, just not under the same types of loads I originally built it for.
Is FX-8350 a big bottleneck for RX 6700 XT? Should I upgrade to something like Ryzen 5 5600X ?
It would work but you will be leaving a lot of your GPU on the table.
I had to downgrade back from my 5700X rig to 8370 bcuz i needed cash for my car. And the config (except the gpu) is the needed value.
so, I could keep my 1080, and my ssd and hdds.
This config is still good. Not the best, I felt that I use the 8350 instead of 5700X, but still, a very capable processor.
man now I should figure what too do with my second Fx 8370
Brother very informative video,i want to build amd fx6350 is good compare to i3 3220 for learning computer like coding and msoffice and all softwares etc please give guidance..
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Dunno how reasonable the RX 6600 is with its x8 lanes that are limited to PCIE 2.0 by the FX CPUs and accommodating boards.
TechLabUK how do you recorded this video from game? i f it was software from game PC it will decrease fps count.
Game captures are through a capture card on another machine.
@@TechLabUK thats ok tnx
Im surprised the FX6100 can even run games.
The only fx cpu that hadles cyberpunk is the 8350.
no one should be rocking the first gen of these cpus. Bulldozer is crap. At least go with Piledriver.
I Just get a crosshair v formula z, fx 8350 and 8 gb ram ddr3 all that for 1500 pesos mexicanos, or 75... yes... 75 dollars. :D
kids still use my old 4300 & gtx 970 for roblox just fine
I'm not sure as haven't checked myself but I know fx can do better in at least shadow of the tomb raider cos I played that game on my fx 8350 and played fine I did have it over locked to 4.5 GHz but I suspect that graphics card might be the issue as only 8x pcie4 lanes and am3 boards are pcie2 and reviews of the card did say even pcie3 was something of a bottleneck for the card so at pcie2 witch is half the bandwidth again it's probably not good. That said good video and the chips could be the bottleneck before pcie lane I would have just preferred it if video had avoided this issue by using a different card.
Amd really messed that card up with the whole 8 lane thing was really a dick move by them
Dude you cannot test old cpus at 720/1080p only 1440p or 4k xD
IMO FX chips are only good enough for esports games these days
My i5 4th gen from 2014 is still alive I paired it with R9 270x at first and then with GTX 1660 Super in 2019.
Is it good for budget gamer? Probably not. But it with ecc support, and if you have the right motherboard, id say it's a nice choice for a budget home server!
I still think these FX chips are really only good for some novelty fun; s2011/2011-3 Xeons can thoroughly outclass these, especially for homeserver use, and are cheaper.
@@bojinglebells That's probably true, but I happened to have one already and a motherboard to match. Better than e-waste
I'm a budget gamer, the FX 8320E is the best thing that ever happened to me in the gaming world(besides the VaporX 7770). So yes, it's amazing for us budget gamers, they're cheap cores. Used Intel here in Latin America is still overpriced af, this 8 core costs a third of what an Intel equivalent costs.
Im on an rx 580 with a 8320 and 24gb ram lol this has been my pc formyears but was a 660ti 2gb that i still have in closet. I wish i could get an i7 or ryzen this cpu bottlenecks alot, i notice the rx580 can still hang but i need better cpu...doesnt help my mobo is an older gigabyte.
It run the last WRC also 2-4k 😂
But they are more expensive than I7 2600K
I WAS using the FX6300, a Gigabyte Motherboard and a 1650 Super OC... But in Dec I was being Nosey and Found a 5600G/16Gb Corsair RAM/ASUS Prime B450 Motherboard Bundle I couldn't Pass Up... The 1650 Super eventually got Replaced with an MSI Factory Refurb 6600XT... These have Since all been Replaced with a 5800X3D/ 32Gb Corsair RAM/ X570S MSI Edge Max WiFi Motherboard and an XFX 6800XT GPU.... The PSU was a 700 Watt TR2 Non Modular Thermaltake that since has also been Replaced with a Vetroo 1000 Watt Modular ATX 3.0/PCIe 5.0 Unit for Future Proofing, and a Montech Sky Two Case....
I Still have all the Parts from the FX Build and the 5600G Build, so I can Rebuild them at any time for an HTPC Build, I just want to get some Better PSU's for them and Better Cases First....
What an upgrade path. So exciting to make that many leaps.
Lol I am using fx6100 pc running windows 10 16 gigs of ram an r7 370
Sweet! Love to hear when the older stuff is still being used.
I haven't played any newer games yet. Rocket league has got my interest but where I live internet is slow.
@@stevengunter3457 Should be fine with Rocket League. Not the most demanding game but a lot of fun also :D
@@TechLabUK i going to give a try and thank you for the advice and time.
Tsk,tsk... I GAME on my Socket 3 & Socket 7 to this day 😛
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@@TechLabUK Heh! Define strength/POWAAAAAUUUUR? 😀
@@dallesamllhals9161 Just great to hear things like this are still be used and enjoyed.
@@TechLabUK Hey! They're not my primary rigs... SHE's a Phenom 1100t@4GHz on all cores 😲
^As you've might have guessed - I'm NOT a FIRSTMOVER anymore.
Is it an 8core though 🤩
AMD says it is 😂
It is.
it is but amd had a different idea of how to make 8 core possible early then
Увидить бы как они с arc380 работают
these CPUs are for all the 9 year old, wannabe PC "gamers" who want to look cool by having an AMD CPU in their system, any normal person will go with Intel over FX
In 2023 when it comes to using (not using) fx cpus debate you gotta find the balance, same as Deng Xiaoping china found balance between capitalism and communism and prospered, while extreme communism all failed and extreme capitalism America is failing before our eyes. Sheeple say buy new new new new, fanatics say i will keep using my FX until it dies in 10 years. But both are wrong and you shouldnt be either one. The correct balanced thing to do in 2023 to replace fx is get an older gen ryzen like even the 35w R3 4300GE. Not worth it to have to nitrogen cool your cpus soon to have less performance than modern 10w chips.
No.
no
R5 4500 is a better CPU than either of those based on how it ranks on Passmark and it's an under-$80 part.
They can still play but as your video shows you are quite CPU limited even in games that are known to be mostly GPU-hogs.
If you play a lot than just the high powerdraw should warrant you thinking about switching to a newer platform cause upgrading to an Intel 6th gen or Ryzen 2nd Gen will be cheaper than continuing to use FX in just 2-3 years if you use your PC more than just 1 hour a day.
(Also just call them what they are - 2 module 4 thread, or 4 module 8 thread. The FX 8350 does simply not have 8 cores and that can nicely be shown when looking at its scaling-behaviour even in purely integer-workloads.)
That 8350 is a 4 core/8 thread processor.
it's a 4 module (2 cores per module) 8 processor cpu.
saying it's an 4 core cpu is just silly. AMD didn't even have SMT or HT technology
And seeing as how the FX cpus weren't magically being oblitered by the Phenom 2 cpus, it's a bit silly to make these claims
that benig said, the 8 cores were ass
I have an fx8320 and it's absolute trash with a 1050ti. Mount and Blade 1 bottleneck, elden ring is horrible, it's just terrible. If you put a better gpu sure it might seem not as bad but for its price and POWER HUNGRY, I can confidently say NO.
I got a cheap Xeon 2640v3 kit and its so much better! And in my testings it was not as power hungry because it barely needed to use 100%, whereas the 8320 was sweating at 100% all the times. If the frames arent great while roaming, it will drop like hell in a fight. I have one, I'm not joking. It's terrible.
Meanwhile with my "new" Xeon it's my gpu now that is 100% at all times! It never got past 50 with the 8320. Fx processors are so bad AMD had to compensate for false ad because they are not really 8 cores. If you have to buy from scratch, consider a trusty store from AliExpress, I've had mine for 6 months and no sign of problems!!
I want to point out that AMD settled a lawsuit in one state in one country. They weren't found guilty of anything as the case never went that far. Companies settle outside of court all the time to avoid long drawn out court cases.
There are really 8 cores in that cpu. They cores just suck ass.
If the case was that shut and dry, AMD would have been sued in basically every country on the planet. How they gonna get sued only in California, but not the EU? aka a place with much better consumer protection.
I kinda hate the way you speak.. Volume up and down, up and down.. It makes me so angry...
I ain’t even watch the video……. I just click to comment this……. An ryzen chips is to cheap to be considering and FX chip those things was terrible
If anybody is really thinking of making a budget gaming pc with an FX chip I would suggest just looking into an I7-3770 or 4790 Intel system instead. better performance and cost is around same in most areas of the world
Probably cheaper and more accessible tbh
@@TechLabUK for sure. great informative video though
@@PaulSman123 Thanks. Loved playing around with these as we missed the entire generation.
They're way expensive than 8 core FXs here in Argentina. I got mines for a third of what the Intel equivalent costs. They're way too overpriced.
@@Toxic2T ahh, not here in the states
Pretty sure the FX 8 series will bottleneck any GPU over a 980 ti.
Man if you are this broke dont even build pc , save more
still using phenom 2's my self. but the aliexpress cheap FX cpus Does have me pining my chin and wondering ..Should i get that 6300 for 40$.... SHould i.. i could Avoid having to do the big 3 upgrade for a bit longer..... Shhhouuulllldddd i ... i do have a Good ddr3 ram kit that goes beyond 1600mhz... haven't pulled the trigger on it yet ..was decieved i thought maybe fx8120 but heck no that seems to fall flat on its face..
......test these OLD cpus again on windows 10/11 and then test them after hitting windows with the Atlas OS deployment. it worked For an old am1 athlon 5350 atlas os really got it to pick its socks up and move a bit faster. after all the inbuilt windows background hidden thread eating bullshit is Disabled/removed.
plus the spector and meltdown fixes that eat cpu runtimes is only really required for intel cpus as amd cpus had a better immunity as you have to install meltdown or specter manually on amd systems.. unlike intel it could just slip in off the internet due to intels shoddy design.
Cheers for the idea, sounds real interesting to try :)
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Can I ask what ram are you bench marking these cup,s on. As I have the exact same set up and I freeze up my pc every time play games I use 16gb 1888
I am pretty sure it's on the overlay in the benchmarks. Appears it was 32GB of DDR3 and that would have been 1600Mhz.