The problem was Murad let the girls fight to he above each other. He married the one who DIDN'T give him a price and then let that wife disrespect the mother of his children. He literally pitted them against each other without directly doing it knowing full well how woman in a harem can behave. Ayse never would've did what she did if he didn't ignore her the minute farya threw a tantrum. He then broke rules to marry farya, and continued to let her rub the marriage in ayses face. If the whole harem thinks your wife is above a sultana there's going to be problems. He was naive to let it go on. Even kosem tried to stop their fighting
When Suleiman was angry with Mahidervan ( because she abused Hurrem) it made sense because he already fell in love and slept with Hurrem, Murad is not some teenager that just discovered his libido 😂😂 for the first time 🙄yet the show makes him look a complete joke around Farya
It’s not just that, it’s the fact that Ayşe did something against his guest and without him knowing. Remember, he doesn’t want to be like his ancestors that had their Hasekis and concubines doing whatever they pleased behind the Sultan’s back
Hussain Sultanzada a lot of people only see this as Murad being angry at Ayse because he has feelings for Farya. It’s not even that. What Ayse did was an act of treason. Farya is a princess of another dynasty and she was at this point under the protection of the sultan. Ayse handing Farya over to the enemies is betrayal to the dynasty - and this was at a time when there were so many traitors and Murad was trying to bring back order to the empire.
Leo I agree and disagree. Murad, I think, towards the middle/end just lost it. He was guided by his fear of losing his throne and life like the way his older Osman did. But I disagree about Farya being responsible for Ayse’s death and Murad’s children’s death. Do I agree about Farya opening her mouth and telling Ayse about her death sentence? Absolute not. People blame Farya for Ayse’s death but why aren’t they blaming Ayse for her own death and her children’s death? Does this other person have that much power over you to do stupid things? Would you let anyone have that power over you? Somebody tells you to jump off a cliff, would you?
Leo true, the show initially blamed Farya for Ayse’s death. But still, there was no way Ayse wasn’t going to be executed. After all, she committed treason. 1/ having Farya kidnapped 2/ having Farya and Murad’s baby killed 3/ stealing Kosem’s seal These are punishable by death and execution. Was it Murad’s fault? The show eventually put the blame on Murad but I still disagree about that. Ayse was to “blame” for ALL of Her actions.
How can he act like that to his haseki sultan? As soon as farya appeared, he totally forgot his wife for no reason. This is bad. Murad is wrong and I'm not justifying ayses actions but this is just cruel
@@ΔημΣΚ-ο7η legally wife is more important than slave which ayse is.Slave and concubine .She was lucky that she got pregnant with sultan and that's it She is also killer and evil person because she killed farya child and many other innocent people
The problem was Murad let the girls fight to he above each other. He married the one who DIDN'T give him a price and then let that wife disrespect the mother of his children. He literally pitted them against each other without directly doing it knowing full well how woman in a harem can behave. Ayse never would've did what she did if he didn't ignore her the minute farya threw a tantrum. He then broke rules to marry farya, and continued to let her rub the marriage in ayses face. If the whole harem thinks your wife is above a sultana there's going to be problems. He was naive to let it go on. Even kosem tried to stop their fighting
Look with Ayses what she did was wrong but you can tell me that those kids would have been protected. Let’s be real.
When Suleiman was angry with Mahidervan ( because she abused Hurrem) it made sense because he already fell in love and slept with Hurrem, Murad is not some teenager that just discovered his libido 😂😂 for the first time 🙄yet the show makes him look a complete joke around Farya
It’s not just that, it’s the fact that Ayşe did something against his guest and without him knowing. Remember, he doesn’t want to be like his ancestors that had their Hasekis and concubines doing whatever they pleased behind the Sultan’s back
@@hussainsultanzada6123 well he forgot the most important fact… Women 😂😂
Hussain Sultanzada a lot of people only see this as Murad being angry at Ayse because he has feelings for Farya. It’s not even that.
What Ayse did was an act of treason. Farya is a princess of another dynasty and she was at this point under the protection of the sultan. Ayse handing Farya over to the enemies is betrayal to the dynasty - and this was at a time when there were so many traitors and Murad was trying to bring back order to the empire.
Leo I agree and disagree. Murad, I think, towards the middle/end just lost it. He was guided by his fear of losing his throne and life like the way his older Osman did.
But I disagree about Farya being responsible for Ayse’s death and Murad’s children’s death. Do I agree about Farya opening her mouth and telling Ayse about her death sentence? Absolute not. People blame Farya for Ayse’s death but why aren’t they blaming Ayse for her own death and her children’s death? Does this other person have that much power over you to do stupid things? Would you let anyone have that power over you? Somebody tells you to jump off a cliff, would you?
Leo true, the show initially blamed Farya for Ayse’s death. But still, there was no way Ayse wasn’t going to be executed. After all, she committed treason.
1/ having Farya kidnapped
2/ having Farya and Murad’s baby killed
3/ stealing Kosem’s seal
These are punishable by death and execution. Was it Murad’s fault? The show eventually put the blame on Murad but I still disagree about that. Ayse was to “blame” for ALL of Her actions.
How can he act like that to his haseki sultan? As soon as farya appeared, he totally forgot his wife for no reason. This is bad. Murad is wrong and I'm not justifying ayses actions but this is just cruel
This is not his wife only concubine who slept with him.His wife is farya
@@bogumilaskowron2680 no she isn't. His main consort is ayse, she's haseki sultan and second to valide sultana
@@ΔημΣΚ-ο7η in this series ayse is just concubine who slept with sultan and this is harem.Farya will married him and she is his legally wife
@@bogumilaskowron2680 ayse is above because she's haseki sultan while farya isn't
Doesn't matter legal wife, farya was never haseki sultan.
@@ΔημΣΚ-ο7η legally wife is more important than slave which ayse is.Slave and concubine .She was lucky that she got pregnant with sultan and that's it
She is also killer and evil person because she killed farya child and many other innocent people