Magic - Showtime Steph - Three point revolution Magic saved the NBA alongside with Larry, but Steph changed the entire basketball perspective worldwide
@@ajphelps16 so did Magic. Magic the first player who actually played 5 positions. And changing the game to a worse product isn't much. The game changes every generation. Jordan changed the game, took it away from the bigs and made it more a wing game. I prefer that style than people jacking up 3s. That's boring to me
@@mjprelic as u prefer that’s very subjective whether u think it’s worse or not. it’s still changed. Magic was an anomaly but he didn’t change the game of basketball he changed the NBA.
I'm the biggest Steph fan in the world (and a Warriors fan for three decades now) but his 4 rings, 6 finals and 2 MVPs can't be put next to Magic's 5 rings, 9 finals and 3 MVPs. You can argue that Steph changed the game forever, but to be fair, the Showtime Lakers did too. Magic is still unequivocally the greatest point guard of all time, but Steph does have another 4-5 seasons left in him so fingers crossed he surpasses!
2 points - Steph changed the NBA, but Magic (along with Larry and Michael) saved the NBA from bankruptcy. Without those 3 there would be no NBA for Steph to change. Second point, you can't coach height. Steph cannot affect the game in as many ways as Magic did. That's not fair, but it is real.
Steph is great, revolutionized the game. Changed the game. Then..his name is Magic. People forget his name is Earvin. He and Bird saved an entire league. That’s IMPACT.
Steph changed how the game is played at every level. As soon as the kids are strong enough to shoot, they learn to play the game the way that Steph has popularized it now. I know some people hate this but it’s true.
@@BourneKnight I love Klay but there’s levels to this. A catch and shoot player is far from what Steph is. Y’all need to go have a lecture or 2 hour film session on the kinda shots this brother takes and makes consistently at his height. Klay is another Reggie Miller at 6’7” which ain’t bad but pls, they are at different levels offensively
Before Magic noone 6'4 ot above was allowed to bring the ball in the front court. He revolutionized the way teams wanted a big Guard or playmaker to start the offense. Penny Hardaway, and even LeBron is a mirror of Magic. Without Magic, LeBron would be Karl Malone who shoots 3's. So Magic changed the game by allowing big men to control the basketball like a smaller Guard!
That’s just not true at all. Plenty of tall players would bring it up the court long before Magic. Magic was just the first to be a starting point guard. I can see The Iceman right now running the break long before Magic was.
Nah there was guys like the big O but magic was the first superstar point forward. He was a great entertainer but he was basically a SF at the 1 who was actually a pure point guard.
@@marcuscarter-segers6144I'll say Magic Johnson made passing the basketball cool and popular. He redefined the guard position at his size. Steph did too. Steph makes mere mortals of regular height believe they could reach the NBA.
Shut up and get off your knees he made the game boring. Chuckin up 3’s from half court like nothing. Yes it takes skill but NBA WAS FUN when it was aggressive and defensive
Magic definitely had the biggest impact in the league. Alongside Bird to help it be as marketable as it is. Steph’s impact is on the whole sport of basketball
@@jessicagalvan3358 Magic and Bird are the reason they started to have games played live and not on tape delay and got the money for the league to showcase MJ. They saved the declining league for everyone else to have a platform.
@dee-5297bro, the game has changed for the worse. Players don't know how to run a proper fast break, no mid range jumpers, flopping and foul baiting, stars teaming up for the sole purpose of ring counts, lacking the basic fundamentals, etc. Sorry but the style of basketball being played today is garbage.
What would Magic have been without Kareem, Worthy, and Scott? Take a look at Game 6 of the 1980 Finals for a clue, in which he played without Kareem, Worthy, or Scott: 42 points, 15 boards, 7 assists, 3 steals. This is not to detract from Steph at all, who remains the best shooter all time, no question.
Stephen A acting like Stephen Curry dont have a pieces around him like the Showtime lakers. If Curry dont have klay and draymond what would be the outcome of his career?
They both impacted the NBA in great ways. Magic Johnson & Larry Bird saved the NBA from pretty much possibly going out of business. Magic brought showtime to the nba that led to fans coming back to watch some nba. Even people who didn’t watch basketball. As I typed all this perk & swagoo are literally saying what I’m typing out 2 seconds later is actually scary
The Lakers with magic is showtime. Curry by himself is showtime basketball. Curry made a lot of people that didn’t watch basketball start watching to. Curry is more fun to watch, and because he’s so short makes it even more impressive.
A chance but we don’t know that, steph curry changed how the game is played. Teams get to emulate that style of play. Kids literally fill gyms to see the guy shoot the ball.
Steph just opened up the flood gates of NBA's future, now because of him, short guys are inspired that they can be at the top too. That's a whole lot of demographics opened up by step. I don't have to be a physical marvel now to make it. That's a different level of Impact rather than just hypothetically saying there wouldn't be a steph coz of magic.
They both impacted the game in different ways, and their playstyles are completely different. Magic is the the best *pure* point guard, and Curry is the best *combo* guard of all time.
@@sideeye92392 I mean what did you expect? As time goes on things change. Obviously mid range and paint play wasn’t gonna last forever and eventually fade out.
I think Magic was a true legend. I think the same is true of Steph. Everybody always brings up Stephen lack of height as a negative, but I honestly think it only adds to Steph's greatness. Consider for a second that he has won 4 rings in the Lebron James era and that he may be the greatest NBA player ever under 6'5
Steph has changed the way many teams play in the NBA, but Magic is one of the main reasons that the NBA is watched and followed by a worldwide audience of over a billion. Without Magic, Bird and Jordan, the NBA is watched by 5 million people in the USA.
Steph Curry...and it's no contest. Not even close. He changed the entire game. On BOTH ends of the ball. Magic changed a position. CURRY CHANGED AN ENTIRE SPORT.
Tough one, but I'll go with Magic. Without Magic (along with Bird), there wouldn't have been an NBA **in the first place** for Steph to play in because the league was near bankruptcy....
Stephen is a killer at 6'2". He has carried his team offensively multiple times because of his arsenal. Magic is mainly a facilitator and relied a lot on his teammates to score. Now imagine if Curry was 6'9. He would murder the NBA! Pop! Pop!
@@Jp-et3zm because there's a major difference in changing how many three pointers players take versus fixing an entire sport's reputation and making it mainstream.
@@SPRVLN27 The issue is Magic is special but it wasn't just him. It was a 50 - 50 thing along along with Bird. And he was surrounded by top 30 players so his passing was rewarded. Steph Curry is a weapon on his own that you need at least 2 people to contain. The impact on players surrounding him is something else. Look at the spacing when Steph is on the court on any team vs other players
@ctd4sure I acknowledged Bird in the original comment as well. I honestly think Bird was a better overall player than Magic. And yes, I agree that Magic exclusively played with HOFers most of his career. But the thing is, so did Steph. How many MVPs honestly ever got to play with 2 other Final's MVPs, another regular season MVP, DPOY, Coach of the Year, and anywhere between 4 to 6 current or former all-stars on the team every season. And sure, you may need two people to guard Steph sometimes, but at the same time you essentially need two people to guard Steph's man on defense. Magic wasn't a great defender but he wasn't a complete liability on defense like Steph either.
@@SPRVLN27 Now let me ask you this. Magic is great but honest answer; Do you think the Lakers wouldn't win rings if they had Jason Kidd/Chris Paul/Steve Nash? And will GSW win anything without someone like Curry?
If magic played in this era at his position more apposing than curry cause of his height and size and curry is on 6,3 people would still say magic the best point guard
Dude - to be a point guard in this era you need consistent outside shooting and at least a 38% at 3 point shooting. I don’t know how Magic’s shooting is but we have Ben Simmons who is at almost 6’10” and the dude is almost out of the NBA - Simmons was an all star and all defensive team. But the dude can’t shoot
I’m a professional athlete(idgaf if you believe me or not). Steph is 6’5, he’s just mad skinny. And that is why he is as good as he is. Because he is tall.
It's more impressive what Curry was able to do at 6,2 than what Magic was able to do at 6,9. Nonetheless Magic is the best old school PG and Steph is the best new school PG.
6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s
6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s
Slow sports day. We all know Jordan changed the marketing ability of the NBA for sure with the shoes and commercials. Before Magic and Bird the NBA was in taped delay. I believe its more Jerry Buss who changed the NBA more than Magic. Steph doesnt change much. Sure more players shoot more threes but thats about it.
Steph had the bigger impact to me. As much as Magic and Larry saved the league. I started watching basketball because I saw a clip of the smallest guy on the court taking down giants wirh his scoring and all-round heliocentric gravity. He made (shorter) people believe they could 'Be like Curry'. You can't coach Magic's height, you can't coach is flair but maybe, just maybe you can Be like Wardell.
You may not know this but everyone wanted to be like Magic or Bird in the 80s. It’s just because Steph is playing rn people wanna be like him and other active players. Not everyone can be like Steph or Magic though.
The explanation is simple. Magic saved NBA but Curry inspired every normal human being who is not a god gifted giant. If you ask a normal human who he wants to be, they will mention Curry. Magic is all about show , Curry is about perseverance, hard work , reps and endless hours in Gym and a belief that you can be in the conversation of the best with sheer hard work and dedication.
Curry has definied what a good shot is. Regardless of height, strength or size. Magic was an anomaly, most NBA players couldn’t replicate his attributes, much less make the league with that ability.
They're trying to downplay or erase every great player that played prior to the "Jordan" era. The disrespect for Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dr. J, Moses Malone, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, and Hakeem Olajuwon is INSANE!!! David Stern partnered with the media and made the air Jordan mythology a thing and to Mike's credit he performed eloquently. They spent yrs trying to recreate that(Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Harold Miner, Kobe Bryant,Vince Carter etc...) But it's like catching lightning in a bottle. Now every past great player can be replaced or disguarded except for MJ. Now it'll take a "European" player to knock Mike off of that mythical post. Other than that everyone else is fair game. Look at how the best player of this century so far has been treated(Lebron James) because he wasn't what the media and powers that be wanted him to be. Just to be clear there's no way I'm choosing Steph Curry over Magic Johnson unless it's a 3point shooting contest and that's it.
@@kennethsmith6367you stop lying curry literally been the most viewed in nba the last 8 years. Since 2015 26 games have been played with 14 million views curry played in all 26 games. Curry also gets the most views on all nba social media sites 🤔 tell me again how is it lebron 🤡
Stern and Silver helped a lot with that wanting that to happen. they lowered the rims 1 inch and loosened them from 300psi to 30psi which helps shooters a lot.
Disagree with SA's point, Steph definitely will go down as probably #2 pg of all time. He changed the game in This Era (shooting expertise), never seen anything like him. Magic just trumps Curry in too many areas. The way guards dribble these days, refs back in the day would call you for all types of violations. Tougher league back then. Props to Mr Curry doing his best to BE the BEST...
@@warking3523Magic turned the game into an art from. Basketball became fun to watch and the NBA increased its fanbase worldwide. He's the reason we've had players like Penny Hardaway, Lebron, Grant Hill, Luka, etc.. Magic is a 3x finals MVP, 9x 1st All-NBA Team, 3x MVP. The only thing steph does better is shooting.
Well they had to make Rules Against Isiah. So Isiah is the best PG ever. Isiah was the one that sort of started all that 90's Tough Guy Body Builder Basketball that had the highest Ratings all time.
STOP! Mr. Durant (Kevin) returned Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors back to the NBA Finals 3X and won back-to-back championships in 2017 & 2018 for Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors; In 2019 Mr. Durant put up 11 points and then went down with an injury giving Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors their first win in the 2019 NBA Finals and Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala and the Golden State Warriors still couldn't get the job done. In 2022, Andrew Wiggins returned Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors back to the NBA Finals. It was unsportsmanlike for the Warriors organization to ask Andre Iguodala to sit out to give Wardell Stephen Curry the 2022 NBA Finals MVP Award when the award should have gone to Andrew Wiggins. Magic Johnson has had a significant impact on the NBA!
Now these point guards think they have to shoot before they passed the ball smh CURRY DID THAT PG IS A FLOOR GENERAL CAN BE GOOD AT SHOOTING BUT PASS THE BALL AND MAKING PLAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE COURT
Magic hands down. This isn’t even a debate it’s almost disrespectful to say any player has had a bigger impact than Magic. College, Rookie Year, Him & Larry’s Rivalry, Putting the NBA back on the Map, Biggest Contract by a rookie, 5 Championships, 9 appearances, MVP, Greatest Passer Ever, The Greatest Leader Ever, Olympic Gold Medalist, HIV Spokesman, Greatest athlete/businessman and hands down the Greatest Smile 😊
This is impact: KG, Dirk, Giannis, and bigs of their ilk...we have ballhandling 4s and 5s in the game now because of Magic! He showed that at 6'9, you don't HAVE TO be stuck in the paint to be productive. Because of Magic and his ability to handle the ball, he impacted the game by basically being the creator of "perimeter bigs". Not suggesting he shot the ball well. I'm suggesting that bigs are now rarely in the paint these days because Magic made it cool to do more than just post up. That is an impact that fails to ever be brought up. And that impact changed the game way more than the need for more 3s. You can't even name 3 allstar level bigs in the league who live in the paint LOL. They're all on the perimeter, wanting to shoot, wanting to facilitate, wanting to showcase handles...the answer is Magic and it's not even close.
@@AntiiSociial They wouldn't have a chance to ever do so if we never saw a 6'9 Magic working mainly outside of the paint. That's what I am saying. By him running point at that size, it opened the door for bigs to handle the rock and do everything else that guards do outside of the paint. They'd still be stuck in the paint as a traditional big if Magic never played Point Guard.
@@rodneyroyston8427 yeah but that in my opinion that doesn't have more impact than what curry has done. Most people are under 6 ft and in basketball curry is considered small, so to me that he would be more relatable and Impactful to majority of people. We got people shooting from 30 plus feet, and they will eventually add a 4 pt shot and it's gonna be because of curry
Magic is the greatest point guard of all time. Stephen A Smith says all that sh*t about Jordan stats vs. Lebron, but diminishes Magic's vs Steph? Steph's playing style leans towards that of a shooting guard. He doesn't boast the highest shooting percentage, the most assists, the most wins, defensive prowess, the most championships, the most MVP awards, dunks, steals, blocks, or even control of the offense, as evidenced by his time of possession. What often goes unnoticed is the incredible influence of Steph's fanbase in today's era, rivaling even the historic following of Michael Jordan. It's akin to Drake's devoted fans who refuse to accept any losses in his rap beefs with Common and Pusha T. Some may argue that it's a form of collective delusion. The sole notable achievement Steph has secured (late in his career, given his aging status) is the record for the most three-pointers made. Comparatively, Steph can be likened to Reggie Miller but with superior ball-handling skills, and even Reggie Miller had to contend with guarding Michael Jordan. The question arises: who has Steph truly shut down in terms of defensive matchups? Moreover, the ongoing discourse about Steph being the greatest point guard contrasts with the undeniable fact that Russell Westbrook could be seen as the LeBron James of point guards, despite not having an NBA championship ring to his name
The 3 point shot is spectacular when Steph does it, anyone else it doesn’t hold the same weight, the change that has come with teams mandating 3 point shooters admit it or not has its negative and you might disagree but has kinda taken away some of the spectacular things some players in the Game are incredible at, I feel that robs us of an opportunity to see people do amazing things in the game, the 3 point shot is only valued cause it accumulates to a wealth of points. The game is not as entertaining as it could be
Without Magic and Bird, there wouldn't be Curry and Bron. Heck, there wouldn't even be an MJ, Kobe, Shaq, and everyone else that came after them. Them 2 dudes saved the NBA and in doing so, gave every baller in the world a chance to make it big.
Magic, without him, for one, he saved the NBA along with Bird. Second, he revolutionized the PG position which created point forwards like Pippen, Grant Hill and especially Lebron. Without Magic, we wouldn't be seeing this NBA today.
@@bdotvisualz7461Bird’s name comes up because the rivalry between those two players pulled the NBA out of bankruptcy. By the way Bird is also somehow becoming underrated.
Kareem was a fmvp winner prior to even knowing magic. Worthy entered the league as a all star type player. Steph literally made Klay and Dray who they are
When we say impact its the "impact" the game on how it played on how we perceive, Magic was a great player but he only save the game together with Larry thats less impact
The biggest impact on the league was M.J crying to commissioner Stern & the addition of the flagrant foul rule, now anybody can play the game when as before you had to be a real man to play basketball & that's the bottom line.
If Curry wouldn't have broken the 3 point scoring record, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And for Curry to come out and say that he is better the Magic J....He needs to think about that a little more....100% Magic J. And Breaking the 3 point scoring record surely doesn't make him better than any other Point Guard (Kendrick) The Job of a point guard is not to break records scoring, the Job of the point guard is to run down the court and Assist his teammates in scoring....
magic had the biggest impact on the nba off the court in terms of viewership he brought it back in style along w bird. but steph had more impact on how the game is played without question. still got magic as the GOAT PG tho
Why is this even a QUESTION. It's MAGIC by a mile. Magic and Bird changed the face of the NBA and revitalized the game. They actually saved the league back in the 80s.
Magic is the most impactful player . Magic is what made basketball a thriving sport despite what people want to believe. He brought the entertainment factor to the the sport like no one else. T
Perk, just remember this. You won't be able to make the league and sit on this chair today if you are a few years younger because of what Curry did to the game. And I have to change my game too just to keep playing pickup. There's no shame in admitting Steph's greatness
The way i see it Magic was a forward playing PG and could push the ball up court with his size that was never done in the NBA but impact steph all the way cause if you notic everybody shooting 3's like crazy i remember back in the day most team would attempt at least 15 the most as a whole team but now you can have one guy take 15 by himself for the whole game
Magic got it because he's still making a big impact off the court becoming a respected businessman and just a great personality/represenative of the NBA also curry hasn't really had any backlash like magic did with the Aids thing and players not wanting to play with him...yea curry ain't been around long enough to compete with magic's impact but he's definitely on the right track
There is a difference between the best players and influence and changed the game/the rules/way its played & officiated.....Wilt & Kareem huge impact on these......Pistol Pete had huge impact on the game. Dr J big time! Magic/Bird saving the league. MJ elevated & commercialized it. Lebron a big that moved like MJ and put the contract power in players hands & turned into a business. Curry's shooting changed the game from bigs & 5 positions to no positions and 3pt shoot league.....these guys changed the league.....Shaq is right there too.
For all of the people saying Magic Johnson is better than Stephen Curry, couldn’t an argument be made that magic was better than curry at passing and defense
you can also add michael jordan into the mix. Nobody rock the bald head look back in the 60's n 70's But when mj came into the league all these nba dudes started to rock dem bald head swag💯
I’m not buying with those medias and old folks argument. As a Millenial, I saw magic as a heavyweight fighting in welterweight. I don’t saw him as a PG. I saw him as a Center.
I stared watching nba because of two people. Magic. And bird. That’s it. I played basketball since 8th grade. All I saw in curry was a guy that can shoot threes , play zero Defense and can’t get teams involved. Without adding KD , he wouldn’t have 4 rings. That’s a fact. Not even close. Magic. Bird. Jordan. Shaq. Lebron. They SAVED the nba. Made it and kept it relevant. PERIOD.
Magic - Showtime
Steph - Three point revolution
Magic saved the NBA alongside with Larry, but Steph changed the entire basketball perspective worldwide
tell me you're under 25...
This has to be the most civil debate ever on first take where they kinda agreed with each other and just added valid points to other’s arguments
Magic because he saved the NBA. Him and Bird
Not true without him bird might become white jordan
Steph changed basketball though and how the game itself is played now
@@ajphelps16 so did Magic. Magic the first player who actually played 5 positions. And changing the game to a worse product isn't much. The game changes every generation. Jordan changed the game, took it away from the bigs and made it more a wing game. I prefer that style than people jacking up 3s. That's boring to me
@@xavierb9061 with no ups
@@mjprelic as u prefer that’s very subjective whether u think it’s worse or not. it’s still changed. Magic was an anomaly but he didn’t change the game of basketball he changed the NBA.
I'm the biggest Steph fan in the world (and a Warriors fan for three decades now) but his 4 rings, 6 finals and 2 MVPs can't be put next to Magic's 5 rings, 9 finals and 3 MVPs. You can argue that Steph changed the game forever, but to be fair, the Showtime Lakers did too. Magic is still unequivocally the greatest point guard of all time, but Steph does have another 4-5 seasons left in him so fingers crossed he surpasses!
It's the Finals MVPs too. Magic with 3 and his first as a rookie. Steph just now got one in his early to mid 30s.
FACTS!
@@user-dc7um4pr3fThe OP mentioned the MVPs as well.
A smart warriors fan???
Magic had Kareem who is considered a goat let’s be real
Stephen curry is one if not the top god giving talented athlete ever but Earvin magic Johnson was a winner his energy and aura was contagious 💯.
2 points - Steph changed the NBA, but Magic (along with Larry and Michael) saved the NBA from bankruptcy. Without those 3 there would be no NBA for Steph to change. Second point, you can't coach height. Steph cannot affect the game in as many ways as Magic did. That's not fair, but it is real.
No need to put Mike in there. He didn't save the game. He did take it to the next level tho
You literally just repeated what's in the video
think about it, steph at only 6'3 dominated the nba alongside lebron
Steph affects the game with and without the ball in his hands lmao 🤣
MAGIC AND BIRD , NOT MIKE
Steph is great, revolutionized the game. Changed the game. Then..his name is Magic. People forget his name is Earvin. He and Bird
saved an entire league. That’s IMPACT.
no, that's marketing
Steph changed how the game is played at every level. As soon as the kids are strong enough to shoot, they learn to play the game the way that Steph has popularized it now. I know some people hate this but it’s true.
I feel as though the splash bros as a unit changed the game, not just curry.
Steph changed how it has been played on every level and magic change how the game is watched on every level
@@thedragon1363 No he didn’t. The Warriors offense changed the style of play, credit to Mark Jackson.
@@BourneKnight I love Klay but there’s levels to this. A catch and shoot player is far from what Steph is. Y’all need to go have a lecture or 2 hour film session on the kinda shots this brother takes and makes consistently at his height. Klay is another Reggie Miller at 6’7” which ain’t bad but pls, they are at different levels offensively
@@BourneKnight you mean the offense built around curry? With same logic its not magic it's the coach n the rest of the Lakers that impacted the game
Steph is my all time greatest pg, but i always wondered how much social media and recency bias affected my decision.
Before Magic noone 6'4 ot above was allowed to bring the ball in the front court. He revolutionized the way teams wanted a big Guard or playmaker to start the offense. Penny Hardaway, and even LeBron is a mirror of Magic. Without Magic, LeBron would be Karl Malone who shoots 3's. So Magic changed the game by allowing big men to control the basketball like a smaller Guard!
That’s just not true at all. Plenty of tall players would bring it up the court long before Magic. Magic was just the first to be a starting point guard. I can see The Iceman right now running the break long before Magic was.
Nah there was guys like the big O but magic was the first superstar point forward. He was a great entertainer but he was basically a SF at the 1 who was actually a pure point guard.
Let's not forget Pippen.Pippen was a more athletic Magic.
@@marcuscarter-segers6144I'll say Magic Johnson made passing the basketball cool and popular. He redefined the guard position at his size. Steph did too. Steph makes mere mortals of regular height believe they could reach the NBA.
Magic saved the game of the basketball
Shut up and get off your knees he made the game boring. Chuckin up 3’s from half court like nothing. Yes it takes skill but NBA WAS FUN when it was aggressive and defensive
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@@Irvin2500you laughing but him and Bird actually brought the NBA back
@@MoneyMadeKade magic and bird saved basketball that's documented literally
@@sean24833 ...Absolutely!!!
Magic and Bird literally saved the NBA…no magic…NBA is not where it is today…meaning there’s a chance we wouldn’t even have Steph
They changed the NBA. Steph changed Basketball
Well, Dr. J was the first to wake up the NBA, then.., Magic and Bird.
Or bron
@@skineyemin4276ya.... Dr J had everyone's imagination for sure.
No NBA, no Dell, no Steph.
Magic has become underrated lmao that’s nuts
No defense can't shoot ofc kids don't like him.
@@jqa16magic cant shoot? says who?
@@jqa16 lol curry is tiny with awful defense😂😂, magic is way better
@@davidjames6036Curry cooked Ben Simmons,he will also cook magic
Overrated and a horrible father he should be in jail
Can tell nothing is happening in sports at the moment Steph made one comment and this same conversation is being had everywhere for a whole week
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Magic definitely had the biggest impact in the league. Alongside Bird to help it be as marketable as it is. Steph’s impact is on the whole sport of basketball
That part steph change it across the world then Asians didn’t know magic they wanted be like Mike not magic then after Mike curry dog
@@jessicagalvan3358 Magic and Bird are the reason they started to have games played live and not on tape delay and got the money for the league to showcase MJ. They saved the declining league for everyone else to have a platform.
@dee-5297bro, the game has changed for the worse. Players don't know how to run a proper fast break, no mid range jumpers, flopping and foul baiting, stars teaming up for the sole purpose of ring counts, lacking the basic fundamentals, etc. Sorry but the style of basketball being played today is garbage.
The thing is, Magic's charisma on and off the court is really unmatched to this day.
He’s a horrible father he should be in jail for child abuse on his son
The one who's not called by his real name yet everybody still knows who we're talking about. The greatest PG ever.
I see what you did there 😂
Magic
What would Magic have been without Kareem, Worthy, and Scott? Take a look at Game 6 of the 1980 Finals for a clue, in which he played without Kareem, Worthy, or Scott: 42 points, 15 boards, 7 assists, 3 steals. This is not to detract from Steph at all, who remains the best shooter all time, no question.
Stephen A acting like Stephen Curry dont have a pieces around him like the Showtime lakers. If Curry dont have klay and draymond what would be the outcome of his career?
Overrated player and horrible father
They both impacted the NBA in great ways. Magic Johnson & Larry Bird saved the NBA from pretty much possibly going out of business. Magic brought showtime to the nba that led to fans coming back to watch some nba. Even people who didn’t watch basketball. As I typed all this perk & swagoo are literally saying what I’m typing out 2 seconds later is actually scary
The Lakers with magic is showtime. Curry by himself is showtime basketball. Curry made a lot of people that didn’t watch basketball start watching to. Curry is more fun to watch, and because he’s so short makes it even more impressive.
It’s just not easy for me to choose between Curry and Magic…they are both Living Legends;
Magic had a bigger impact. There's a chance there wouldn't even be a league for Curry to play in without him.
Not true len bias...could have been better jordan...always some 1 else
A chance but we don’t know that, steph curry changed how the game is played. Teams get to emulate that style of play. Kids literally fill gyms to see the guy shoot the ball.
Steph just opened up the flood gates of NBA's future, now because of him, short guys are inspired that they can be at the top too. That's a whole lot of demographics opened up by step. I don't have to be a physical marvel now to make it. That's a different level of Impact rather than just hypothetically saying there wouldn't be a steph coz of magic.
They both changed the game in different eras. Steph sits in chairs and drains shots from 40 ft. He revolutionized the 3pt shot.
We’re going to pretend that jordan was drafted 4 years after magic.
No one from this era is better than those guys.....
Yea ur sloe
@@makaicuhh No..Your just stupud
Even as a Bay Area native, gotta say Magic. Between Magic and Bird, it's still mostly Magic, but without these two, the world wouldn't be the same.
Magic and Bird saved the NBA…if it weren’t for them the country wouldn’t have been tuned into basketball. Magic no debate.
They would have been another race war to fuel the nba
Best to see yet is how players like Wemby and Scoot will impact the league in the next 5-10 yrs.
But thats 2 players impact vs 1
@@CalebWilliams2030Jokic is doing the most now and nobody talks about it. Talk about marketing
They both impacted the game in different ways, and their playstyles are completely different. Magic is the the best *pure* point guard, and Curry is the best *combo* guard of all time.
as a Curry fan, I can agree with that
curry impacted the game for the worst, now many games are hard to watch , its just a 3 point shooting context for 48 min
@@sideeye92392 I mean what did you expect? As time goes on things change. Obviously mid range and paint play wasn’t gonna last forever and eventually fade out.
@@sideeye92392nobody wanna watch centers back down for 48 mins . Keep that in the 80s
Steph is a PG, stop the combo guard nonsense
I think Magic was a true legend. I think the same is true of Steph. Everybody always brings up Stephen lack of height as a negative, but I honestly think it only adds to Steph's greatness. Consider for a second that he has won 4 rings in the Lebron James era and that he may be the greatest NBA player ever under 6'5
Steph has changed the way many teams play in the NBA, but Magic is one of the main reasons that the NBA is watched and followed by a worldwide audience of over a billion. Without Magic, Bird and Jordan, the NBA is watched by 5 million people in the USA.
Steph Curry...and it's no contest. Not even close. He changed the entire game. On BOTH ends of the ball. Magic changed a position. CURRY CHANGED AN ENTIRE SPORT.
Tough one, but I'll go with Magic. Without Magic (along with Bird), there wouldn't have been an NBA **in the first place** for Steph to play in because the league was near bankruptcy....
Stephen is a killer at 6'2". He has carried his team offensively multiple times because of his arsenal. Magic is mainly a facilitator and relied a lot on his teammates to score. Now imagine if Curry was 6'9. He would murder the NBA! Pop! Pop!
It's definitely Magic. Sure, Steph shot some threes, but you may not even be watching the NBA on TV if it weren't for Bird and Magic.
Listen to the hate though “sure he shot some 3s” 😂😂 y’all just can’t help it 🤦🏾♂️
@@Jp-et3zm because there's a major difference in changing how many three pointers players take versus fixing an entire sport's reputation and making it mainstream.
@@SPRVLN27 The issue is Magic is special but it wasn't just him. It was a 50 - 50 thing along along with Bird. And he was surrounded by top 30 players so his passing was rewarded. Steph Curry is a weapon on his own that you need at least 2 people to contain. The impact on players surrounding him is something else. Look at the spacing when Steph is on the court on any team vs other players
@ctd4sure I acknowledged Bird in the original comment as well. I honestly think Bird was a better overall player than Magic. And yes, I agree that Magic exclusively played with HOFers most of his career. But the thing is, so did Steph. How many MVPs honestly ever got to play with 2 other Final's MVPs, another regular season MVP, DPOY, Coach of the Year, and anywhere between 4 to 6 current or former all-stars on the team every season. And sure, you may need two people to guard Steph sometimes, but at the same time you essentially need two people to guard Steph's man on defense. Magic wasn't a great defender but he wasn't a complete liability on defense like Steph either.
@@SPRVLN27 Now let me ask you this. Magic is great but honest answer; Do you think the Lakers wouldn't win rings if they had Jason Kidd/Chris Paul/Steve Nash? And will GSW win anything without someone like Curry?
That fast break post up highlight @1:18 is wild! 😂 😂 😂
Both had the impact. Steph with shooting and Magic with the performance. Nowadays today's players acting like Divas and getting injured all the time.
If magic played in this era at his position more apposing than curry cause of his height and size and curry is on 6,3 people would still say magic the best point guard
Dude - to be a point guard in this era you need consistent outside shooting and at least a 38% at 3 point shooting. I don’t know how Magic’s shooting is but we have Ben Simmons who is at almost 6’10” and the dude is almost out of the NBA - Simmons was an all star and all defensive team. But the dude can’t shoot
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I’m a professional athlete(idgaf if you believe me or not). Steph is 6’5, he’s just mad skinny. And that is why he is as good as he is. Because he is tall.
It's more impressive what Curry was able to do at 6,2 than what Magic was able to do at 6,9. Nonetheless Magic is the best old school PG and Steph is the best new school PG.
6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s
6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s
The rivalry between Magic and Bird. Magic saved the NBA from its darkest age in 1979
This is hard for two reasons.
Magic saved basketball.
Steph changed how people play, as AI, MJ, Dr. J, and Wilt did.
Slow sports day. We all know Jordan changed the marketing ability of the NBA for sure with the shoes and commercials. Before Magic and Bird the NBA was in taped delay. I believe its more Jerry Buss who changed the NBA more than Magic. Steph doesnt change much. Sure more players shoot more threes but thats about it.
Precisely
Steph had the bigger impact to me. As much as Magic and Larry saved the league. I started watching basketball because I saw a clip of the smallest guy on the court taking down giants wirh his scoring and all-round heliocentric gravity. He made (shorter) people believe they could 'Be like Curry'.
You can't coach Magic's height, you can't coach is flair but maybe, just maybe you can Be like Wardell.
Curry isn’t short, he’s 6’3.
You may not know this but everyone wanted to be like Magic or Bird in the 80s. It’s just because Steph is playing rn people wanna be like him and other active players. Not everyone can be like Steph or Magic though.
@@Mike1122.that’s short in basketball lol
1980 Gm 6 20 year old rookie nuff said, my favorite NBA player all time and greatest pg of all time
Lol, Magic literally saved the NBA from bankruptcy. I have ppl in Africa who literally idolized the man. He has a reach far beyond basketball.
I’m one of them 😁🙌🏼
Back then nobody could do what Magic did nowadays there are multiple ppl that can do what Curry can do
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The explanation is simple. Magic saved NBA but Curry inspired every normal human being who is not a god gifted giant. If you ask a normal human who he wants to be, they will mention Curry. Magic is all about show , Curry is about perseverance, hard work , reps and endless hours in Gym and a belief that you can be in the conversation of the best with sheer hard work and dedication.
Curry has definied what a good shot is. Regardless of height, strength or size. Magic was an anomaly, most NBA players couldn’t replicate his attributes, much less make the league with that ability.
They're trying to downplay or erase every great player that played prior to the "Jordan" era. The disrespect for Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dr. J, Moses Malone, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, and Hakeem Olajuwon is INSANE!!! David Stern partnered with the media and made the air Jordan mythology a thing and to Mike's credit he performed eloquently. They spent yrs trying to recreate that(Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Harold Miner, Kobe Bryant,Vince Carter etc...) But it's like catching lightning in a bottle. Now every past great player can be replaced or disguarded except for MJ. Now it'll take a "European" player to knock Mike off of that mythical post. Other than that everyone else is fair game. Look at how the best player of this century so far has been treated(Lebron James) because he wasn't what the media and powers that be wanted him to be. Just to be clear there's no way I'm choosing Steph Curry over Magic Johnson unless it's a 3point shooting contest and that's it.
Steph's the GOAT PG
Not with 1 finals MVP 😂
Would Kobe want to play for LA if it wasnt for Magic and the huge showtime era period?
There’s no way Shaq, Kobe and now Lebron would’ve played for LA if not for Magic
Exactly 💯
Magic invented passing for championships and he made being a giant guard cool. It’s easily Magic. 😊
Steph is literally the biggest views draw in the NBA, and has been for the last almost 10 years, that’s insane
Can’t compare views different times we don’t know how many views would get if magic had social media
thats why magic is more impact, bevause theres no social media back then and put nba spotlight, steph will be just isaih thomas bedide magic
Steph not the biggest views. That LeBron James, stop lying!
@@kennethsmith6367you stop lying curry literally been the most viewed in nba the last 8 years. Since 2015 26 games have been played with 14 million views curry played in all 26 games. Curry also gets the most views on all nba social media sites 🤔 tell me again how is it lebron 🤡
i will never forget that 24-0 start to the 2015-2016 season , nobody won an mvp like steph
Tha same year they lost in the finals?😊 Mj da 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
curry ruined the nba with everyone jacking up 3's
Stern and Silver helped a lot with that wanting that to happen. they lowered the rims 1 inch and loosened them from 300psi to 30psi which helps shooters a lot.
Disagree with SA's point, Steph definitely will go down as probably #2 pg of all time. He changed the game in This Era (shooting expertise), never seen anything like him. Magic just trumps Curry in too many areas. The way guards dribble these days, refs back in the day would call you for all types of violations. Tougher league back then. Props to Mr Curry doing his best to BE the BEST...
I’m going with Steph on this one 🙌🏿
Because you're 20.
No he hasn't
@@patbenz4327 I’m 37 and I’m still going with Steph. Be realistic the game and players have evolved; especially from a athletic standpoint.
@@warking3523Magic turned the game into an art from. Basketball became fun to watch and the NBA increased its fanbase worldwide. He's the reason we've had players like Penny Hardaway, Lebron, Grant Hill, Luka, etc.. Magic is a 3x finals MVP, 9x 1st All-NBA Team, 3x MVP. The only thing steph does better is shooting.
I am a big fan of Basketball (NBA) because of Steph Curry. I never knew NBA existed before.
Well they had to make Rules Against Isiah. So Isiah is the best PG ever. Isiah was the one that sort of started all that 90's Tough Guy Body Builder Basketball that had the highest Ratings all time.
Steph all day, man is the NBA nowadays
The game is bigger today and Steph is at the helm of changing the game. Therefore his impact is BIGGER.
Solid take perk 😎
STOP! Mr. Durant (Kevin) returned Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors back to the NBA Finals 3X and won back-to-back championships in 2017 & 2018 for Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors; In 2019 Mr. Durant put up 11 points and then went down with an injury giving Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors their first win in the 2019 NBA Finals and Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala and the Golden State Warriors still couldn't get the job done. In 2022, Andrew Wiggins returned Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors back to the NBA Finals. It was unsportsmanlike for the Warriors organization to ask Andre Iguodala to sit out to give Wardell Stephen Curry the 2022 NBA Finals MVP Award when the award should have gone to Andrew Wiggins.
Magic Johnson has had a significant impact on the NBA!
Now these point guards think they have to shoot before they passed the ball smh CURRY DID THAT PG IS A FLOOR GENERAL CAN BE GOOD AT SHOOTING BUT PASS THE BALL AND MAKING PLAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE COURT
Ppl picking magic over him. Curry changed the game. Magic played within the game
Magic hands down. This isn’t even a debate it’s almost disrespectful to say any player has had a bigger impact than Magic. College, Rookie Year, Him & Larry’s Rivalry, Putting the NBA back on the Map, Biggest Contract by a rookie, 5 Championships, 9 appearances, MVP, Greatest Passer Ever, The Greatest Leader Ever, Olympic Gold Medalist, HIV Spokesman, Greatest athlete/businessman and hands down the Greatest Smile 😊
This is impact: KG, Dirk, Giannis, and bigs of their ilk...we have ballhandling 4s and 5s in the game now because of Magic! He showed that at 6'9, you don't HAVE TO be stuck in the paint to be productive. Because of Magic and his ability to handle the ball, he impacted the game by basically being the creator of "perimeter bigs". Not suggesting he shot the ball well. I'm suggesting that bigs are now rarely in the paint these days because Magic made it cool to do more than just post up. That is an impact that fails to ever be brought up. And that impact changed the game way more than the need for more 3s. You can't even name 3 allstar level bigs in the league who live in the paint LOL. They're all on the perimeter, wanting to shoot, wanting to facilitate, wanting to showcase handles...the answer is Magic and it's not even close.
They wanna shoot and showcase handles because of curry not magic
@@AntiiSociial They wouldn't have a chance to ever do so if we never saw a 6'9 Magic working mainly outside of the paint. That's what I am saying. By him running point at that size, it opened the door for bigs to handle the rock and do everything else that guards do outside of the paint. They'd still be stuck in the paint as a traditional big if Magic never played Point Guard.
@@rodneyroyston8427 yeah but that in my opinion that doesn't have more impact than what curry has done. Most people are under 6 ft and in basketball curry is considered small, so to me that he would be more relatable and Impactful to majority of people. We got people shooting from 30 plus feet, and they will eventually add a 4 pt shot and it's gonna be because of curry
Magic is the greatest point guard of all time. Stephen A Smith says all that sh*t about Jordan stats vs. Lebron, but diminishes Magic's vs Steph?
Steph's playing style leans towards that of a shooting guard. He doesn't boast the highest shooting percentage, the most assists, the most wins, defensive prowess, the most championships, the most MVP awards, dunks, steals, blocks, or even control of the offense, as evidenced by his time of possession. What often goes unnoticed is the incredible influence of Steph's fanbase in today's era, rivaling even the historic following of Michael Jordan. It's akin to Drake's devoted fans who refuse to accept any losses in his rap beefs with Common and Pusha T. Some may argue that it's a form of collective delusion.
The sole notable achievement Steph has secured (late in his career, given his aging status) is the record for the most three-pointers made. Comparatively, Steph can be likened to Reggie Miller but with superior ball-handling skills, and even Reggie Miller had to contend with guarding Michael Jordan. The question arises: who has Steph truly shut down in terms of defensive matchups?
Moreover, the ongoing discourse about Steph being the greatest point guard contrasts with the undeniable fact that Russell Westbrook could be seen as the LeBron James of point guards, despite not having an NBA championship ring to his name
The 3 point shot is spectacular when Steph does it, anyone else it doesn’t hold the same weight, the change that has come with teams mandating 3 point shooters admit it or not has its negative and you might disagree but has kinda taken away some of the spectacular things some players in the Game are incredible at, I feel that robs us of an opportunity to see people do amazing things in the game, the 3 point shot is only valued cause it accumulates to a wealth of points. The game is not as entertaining as it could be
There’s no wrong answer they both paved the way for the nba we know and love today
Nah....
curry didnt do anything, nba was doing just fine when he came into the league
@@sideeye92392 troll
@@SSJRome he actually made it worst , now nba is 48 minute 3 point contest 🤦 🤦♂
@@sideeye92392 that’s not on steph
Magic. He also does what a PG is supposed to do, not only spam 3s.
Curry is a combo guard, not a PG. So if we're talking strictly PG, Curry is not it.
The fact that they even have to talk about this is crazy. Without Bird and Magic, there would be no NBA today.
2:41 LOL 😂
Without Magic and Bird, there wouldn't be Curry and Bron. Heck, there wouldn't even be an MJ, Kobe, Shaq, and everyone else that came after them. Them 2 dudes saved the NBA and in doing so, gave every baller in the world a chance to make it big.
Magic, without him, for one, he saved the NBA along with Bird. Second, he revolutionized the PG position which created point forwards like Pippen, Grant Hill and especially Lebron. Without Magic, we wouldn't be seeing this NBA today.
NOTICE how y'all gotta say BIRD'S name with Magic.......CURRY CHANGED THE GAME FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@bdotvisualz7461Bird’s name comes up because the rivalry between those two players pulled the NBA out of bankruptcy. By the way Bird is also somehow becoming underrated.
@@bdotvisualz7461for the worse though. Players jacking up 3s all day is difficult to watch.
LMFAO, did Perk just say Magic and Bird saved the game 💀💀💀....MF that was Mike, Kobe and LeBron and then Steph
There’s really no wrong answer but I’m forever going with Stephen Curry
That’s just me 🐐
Magic. Magic made everyone around him a Allstar.
Kareem was a fmvp winner prior to even knowing magic. Worthy entered the league as a all star type player. Steph literally made Klay and Dray who they are
@Jp-et3zm exactly Kareem is in the goat conversation🤦♂️
When we say impact its the "impact" the game on how it played on how we perceive, Magic was a great player but he only save the game together with Larry thats less impact
The biggest impact on the league was M.J crying to commissioner Stern & the addition of the flagrant foul rule, now anybody can play the game when as before you had to be a real man to play basketball & that's the bottom line.
I’m not talking favorites here. They changed the rules because of Curry. Magic had the biggest change via NBA “style” and “positionless” basketball.
If Curry wouldn't have broken the 3 point scoring record, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And for Curry to come out and say that he is better the Magic J....He needs to think about that a little more....100% Magic J. And Breaking the 3 point scoring record surely doesn't make him better than any other Point Guard (Kendrick) The Job of a point guard is not to break records scoring, the Job of the point guard is to run down the court and Assist his teammates in scoring....
Magic Johnson along with Bird SAVED the NBA. He could dominate the game without even scoring a point. He's the greatest point guard of all time.
Literally steph made me love basketball as a whole 😊
Magic Is the better point guard all time. However on the court steph is more Influential
magic had the biggest impact on the nba off the court in terms of viewership he brought it back in style along w bird. but steph had more impact on how the game is played without question. still got magic as the GOAT PG tho
Why is this even a QUESTION. It's MAGIC by a mile. Magic and Bird changed the face of the NBA and revitalized the game. They actually saved the league back in the 80s.
Magic is the most impactful player . Magic is what made basketball a thriving sport despite what people want to believe. He brought the entertainment factor to the the sport like no one else. T
Magic changed the NBA. Steph changed the entire scope of Basketball. It's levels.
Perk, just remember this. You won't be able to make the league and sit on this chair today if you are a few years younger because of what Curry did to the game. And I have to change my game too just to keep playing pickup. There's no shame in admitting Steph's greatness
If Curry is over Magic then LeBron is definitely over MJ.
Iverson took the entire league into the gutter whether or not anyone liked it or not
If Steph played in the 80’s he would’ve saved the league too
The question is not fair. They are from different eras. While fan basis from one side is fading, the other is still growing.
The way i see it Magic was a forward playing PG and could push the ball up court with his size that was never done in the NBA but impact steph all the way cause if you notic everybody shooting 3's like crazy i remember back in the day most team would attempt at least 15 the most as a whole team but now you can have one guy take 15 by himself for the whole game
Magic got it because he's still making a big impact off the court becoming a respected businessman and just a great personality/represenative of the NBA also curry hasn't really had any backlash like magic did with the Aids thing and players not wanting to play with him...yea curry ain't been around long enough to compete with magic's impact but he's definitely on the right track
There is a difference between the best players and influence and changed the game/the rules/way its played & officiated.....Wilt & Kareem huge impact on these......Pistol Pete had huge impact on the game. Dr J big time! Magic/Bird saving the league. MJ elevated & commercialized it. Lebron a big that moved like MJ and put the contract power in players hands & turned into a business. Curry's shooting changed the game from bigs & 5 positions to no positions and 3pt shoot league.....these guys changed the league.....Shaq is right there too.
For all of the people saying Magic Johnson is better than Stephen Curry, couldn’t an argument be made that magic was better than curry at passing and defense
Why do people like to compare all the time? It diminishes some of their greatness
Steph Curry is only ahead of Magic in one category: Shooting. Magic still is the ultimate Point Guard build. Steph is a hybrid PG/SG.
Wow, I agreed with Perk just now. First time for everything.
you can also add michael jordan into the mix. Nobody rock the bald head look back in the 60's n 70's But when mj came into the league all these nba dudes started to rock dem bald head swag💯
I’m not buying with those medias and old folks argument. As a Millenial, I saw magic as a heavyweight fighting in welterweight. I don’t saw him as a PG. I saw him as a Center.
I stared watching nba because of two people. Magic. And bird. That’s it. I played basketball since 8th grade. All I saw in curry was a guy that can shoot threes , play zero Defense and can’t get teams involved. Without adding KD , he wouldn’t have 4 rings. That’s a fact. Not even close. Magic. Bird. Jordan. Shaq. Lebron. They SAVED the nba. Made it and kept it relevant. PERIOD.