No matter who you were rooting for in this match, there's no denying that THIS ... was a classic!! Lots of ups n downs ... swings to either player, great match indeed.👍👍
Thank you to Accustats. For the longest time, your mail-order service was the only way to witness billiard matches outside of trick shot exhibitions. And this is one of THE GREAT matches.
Archer, a last table of great champion as it is. It was very difficult to recover from the comeback of the magician ... Beautiful historical matches. Thanks!
I enjoyed this match and being able to see what the announcers looked like with Johnny at the end! Someone else here mentioned the beautiful Brunswick table they were playing on and I gotta say it's probably one of the sexiest pool tables I've ever seen lol. Thank you, Accu-Stats, for posting this treasure!
An absolutely brilliant articulate accurate assessment of Grady’s mannerisms. Haha. Couldn’t agree more. I always enjoy hearing his commentary. What a shame we all gotta go at some point. So grateful to Pat for recording and uploading all of these old matches.
Thank You PAT, I'm amazed at the digital remastering work you did with this old video, WOW. What a Gift, Treat, Thank You, Mr. Hall of Famer. Yes Folks, Pat is a Great Player Besides.
I feel like the matches from back then are much better compared to the recent ones. I don't know, it could be just a matter of preference. Thank you Accustats!
PAT ... ACCUSTATS ... YOU ARE AND WERE 100 % CORRECT WITH YOUR STATEMENT - I CAN'T HELP BUT COMMENT WHAT EARL HAS SAID SO PASSIONATELY AND FREQUENTLY FOR MANY YEARS ... THIS IS THE GREATEST SPORT ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH - AND TO SEE / HEAR GRADY - BILLY AND JOHNNY AFTER THE MATCH - AT THAT SPECIFIC MOMENT IN TIME ... ALL THINGS WERE RIGHT IN THIS WORLD ... PAT I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT SOMETHING ... I AM JEALOUS THAT YOU HAVE LIVED A LIFE SURROUNDED BY LEGENDARY PLAYERS LIKE THOSE IN THIS VIDEO - AMONG NUMEROUS OTHERS FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT - YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXCHANGE DIALOG AND BECOME LIFE LONG FRIENDS WITH THESE GREAT HUMAN BEINGS - YOU HAVE SHARED SUBSTANTIAL MONUMENTAL MOMENTS IN TIME WITH THE LIKES OF GRADY - BILLY - REMPE - HALL - ARCHER - EFREN - SHANNON ECT ... ECT ... GOD BLESS YOU PAT AND ACCUSTATS - 🙏 GOD BLESS EVERYONE WHO HAS POSITIVELY INFLUENCED AND IMPACTED OUR GREAT SPORT IN COUNTLESS FACETS - GOD BLESS THE WAR ... AND ALL THE LESSONS IT HAS IN STORE - SO MOTE IT BE 🙏
Johnny Archer came to the Villages in Fla. and the gave out 3 tickets for $20 each to play him one game of 9-ball. He was a pure gentleman, and said I will rack them for you and let you break. I broke and made a ball on the break and then ran 5 more. I didn't have a great shot so I played him safe, he tried to play me safe and I got out. The next day Phil Diangelo called me and said, I know you don't buy the newspaper but you better get one today, your picture is on the front page of the Daily News, with the caption-Ron Cerelli (The Legend) gets out and beats Johnny Archer. wow, what a fabulous experience. Thank you Johnny for being such a gentleman.
We had a one-pocket tournament at College billiards, someone asked Grady to watch the hit. He's like," I'd rather not, I mean what do I get out of it? Nothing but grief"...
Commentator ALMOST has the "Herbert the perve$t" whistle going on lol. I just kept hearing him say "I got a pool table in my basement" in Herbert's voice! 🤣 Herbert's older deeper voiced brother Gerbert.
Dear accu stats, bring entertaining commentators such as billy, danny and mike sigel. I respect mark wilson and jack but i don't want to listen for analysis every single shot. We need jokes, stories and arguing. This what makes long match pool fun to watch.
Efren is my no 1 favorite but i admire archer too i think archer is one of efren toughest opponent and i like archer attitude and dedication to the game he has the important quality of a brilliant and awsome pool player
@@josephlee4337 nope earls attitude when things dont go he's way is one of the reason why earl is not the toughest opponent even jango said archer they worried about no earl bcuz they know how to handle earl and archer is more professional than earl..
This was the time Efren began having major shoulder issues, and he never mentioned it to anyone. He was playing through pain here. Only a few years later it prevented him from elevating the rear of his cue for masse' shots.
Johnny Archer was one of the biggest money players out there, icecold killer....won millions. But 10-10 against the GOAT can make any man shake his hands.
You are right on target. Did you see Archer's demeanor and speed by which he moved around that table for every shot?? He was literally possessed with Victory over Efren. No smiling or Any distractions....just pure "ice cold killer" instinct over the goat.
"A lot of guys would kill for these guy's C game, and when their A game is in evidence, well it's something quite spectacular." And Thanks to James Cameron for the cinematography, we're not used to this in the adolescence of the 2000s.
well they werent too far off i can tell you that. They both were great players and they were doing their jobs. efren and Johnny both would acknowledge that they did great commentating. You guys are just soft nowadays
If Efren is playing you know one of the commentators is going to complain about his “lack of break power”. He has finesse and doesn’t need power all the time!
Grady has a point, the break is very important for acquiring and maintaining advantage. Even if one has such a finesse like The Magician, one can get easily behind a powerful breaker like Archer or Strickland.
Can someone explain to my why, in the first game of the video, Archer's first shot after the break wasn't a scratch? He hut the cue like 3 inches and didn't hit a rail or anything.
If the old guy is Grady, then he called the match correctly right from the start. Efren just couldn´t match Archer in the break - the most important shot in pool - and it ended up costing him.
I came here to watch two great players shoot a game. Instead we actually have 3 games to further confuse and confound. We have Billy's game, and Grady's game, and we get to hear their endless kibitzing and bickering instead of respecting the video audience who tuned in to enjoy the ONE game that is advertised. Why not ERASE the sound track and all their bullshit and just have one able person commentate on what Efren and Johnny are DOING...Not what the commentator thinks they SHOULD be doing...
He cleans up here in Knoxville TN once a year to play in our annual Big Boy Tournament at Billiards and Brews next one is Nov 6 can't wait to watch him play again and all the side bets going on
Commentators non stop gibberish. Talk for 2 minutes with no pauses about how to play the shot, the balls, stick, the covering, humidity, the room, a history of the player, how they shoot, their weakness, strengths... then player plays a totally different way.. "Or they could do that.."
Im sorry. That shot at 7:00 might be some of the most impressive pool ive seen. Please keep in mind Im completely new and green to this sport. But holy shit
@@shotsfired2188 you just said you are completely new and green to this sport. The hit on the ball via one rail was intentional. The second hit, double kiss and pot in the side pocket was completely unintentional. You can believe that.
I only "just said" that over 90 days ago but you got it lil bro. Also, the commentators said it was some luck involved but he clearly calculated what he was doing. At the end of the day, i respected your opinion but im sure you just wanna be right 😂. Have a good day @MCFoultier
In 2011 Phil DeAngelo put a big expo on in the Villages where I lived. When the expo was over Phil sold 3 tickets for $20 each to play Johnny Archer one game of 9-ball. 2 guys went up and lost and Phil said ticker # 513. I gasped cause I had that ticket. Phil said Johnny we know you are in the world hall of fame and you are a legend, but we have a legend here in the Villages and he is Ron Cerelli The Legend, so Johnny said you can break Ron. I did and made a ball on the break, then proceeded to make 5 more. I had long rail shot from the front rail to the back rail. There were about 200 people in the bleachers and I almost tried the shot but I thought , there are a lot of my students in the audience so I played safe. Johnny tried to play me safe back, but he didn't and I got out. He was such a gentleman, congratulated me, wow was I shaking. The next day the Daily Sun newspaper had my picture on the cover and it said The Legend beats a legend. I will never forget how great I felt.-Ron Cerelli The Legend
Watching matches from many different years of the magicians career and it seems to be his weak point of the game to many commentators. Fanboys never like it.🤷
Efren turned out to be the greatest pool player of all time. Somehow he managed it without having the strongest break in the world. So I guess the commentator was talking out of his ass. The other commentator, responding to his professorial colleague, rightly remarked at one point that "I'm not qualified to be Efren's coach."
Do you even know who the commentator is? Id figure out who they are before you make a judgment. This is Grady Matthews and Billy Incardona. Look em up...
@@TerryWilsonModels I'm only considering the content of what was said in relation to certain facts. As already stated, Efren turned out to be the greatest ever without the strongest break. That goes against the drift (or logic) of what the professor said. I don't care who this professor is; that's irrelevant. All that's relevant here is the professor's inaccuracy, which requires correction. Accomplished people are not infallible. Just because they're accomplished, as this professor is, it doesn't mean we should give them a pass for the faulty things they do or say.
@@yacovmitchenko1490 and I’m commenting on your complete lack of respect. You can say someone is wrong without being condescending and insulting. He did turn out to be wrong. But it’s opinion not fact.
@@TerryWilsonModels I apologize for that. I know I need to curb that tendency. In part, I reacted that way because he seemed to be condescending. Which rubbed me the wrong way. But that's ironic because I can be that way too.
i cant watch hopkins stroke. I think johnny was fun to watch back then. You started to see him start to pick lint and stuff but he still shot pretty fast. Archer didnt get slow until later on in his career
Somebody give Billy and the Rifleman some other stuff to do if they can't agree on anything. Their exchanges made this classic, interesting match such a pain to watch. Turned off the volume. Thank you for these videos, especially that they're 60 fps
lol he said i dont like when he scratches his head...cause it means he dont know what to do and he comes up with weird shots and makes them then right after he says it boom he makes it lol
im so grateful for these remasters. Thanks a lot accu stats
Our pleasure!
@@AccuStats Thank you ASVP.
@@AccuStats Thanks legends! These games are absolute gold!!
Yes, thank you!! 😄 These truly are treasures.
Old games is still more exciting to watch than a new one. these are treasures.
Couldn't agree more!
Cause the players show their emotions, not a bunch of "robots"..❤️🙏👉🇺🇸👍
No matter who you were rooting for in this match, there's no denying that THIS ... was a classic!!
Lots of ups n downs ... swings to either player, great match indeed.👍👍
Well said!
Legends! So thankful to be able to watch these matches again!
It’s a pleasure to watch these two gentlemen work.
Thank You for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Pat and everyone at Accu-Stats
You're welcome.
Thank you to Accustats. For the longest time, your mail-order service was the only way to witness billiard matches outside of trick shot exhibitions. And this is one of THE GREAT matches.
You're welcome!
Oh man are they at it from the get go. And i dont mean Johnny and Efres.
Archer, a last table of great champion as it is. It was very difficult to recover from the comeback of the magician ... Beautiful historical matches. Thanks!
Well said!
The match between the commentators is as intense as the match between the players!
Unwatchable.
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😮😢@@dalefortner2179😢
Grady was great, Incardona sucks, never likes the way a player plays a shot, and both of these guys could hive him the 6 out
@@dalefortner2179 he
...the ever so wise and eloquent professor Grady Matthews...sheesh
I enjoyed this match and being able to see what the announcers looked like with Johnny at the end! Someone else here mentioned the beautiful Brunswick table they were playing on and I gotta say it's probably one of the sexiest pool tables I've ever seen lol. Thank you, Accu-Stats, for posting this treasure!
45:55 this is what pool nowadays is missing in the commentary. These were the best days of pool entertainment
If there was a US Open Vocabulary Championship, Grady would have gone undefeated.
An absolutely brilliant articulate accurate assessment of Grady’s mannerisms. Haha. Couldn’t agree more. I always enjoy hearing his commentary. What a shame we all gotta go at some point. So grateful to Pat for recording and uploading all of these old matches.
Thank You PAT, I'm amazed at the digital remastering work you did with this old video, WOW. What a Gift, Treat, Thank You, Mr. Hall of Famer. Yes Folks, Pat is a Great Player Besides.
I'm blushing. Thank you.
1:11:19 “nice crowd” … “hard to negotiate the aisle ways” ….. *whisper from off in the background* “lottsa bitches” 😂😂😂
Bruh 🤣 thanks for pointing this out. This guy wasn't there to watch Efren and Johnny he was lookin for the babes
No one anounces like Grady.
I feel like the matches from back then are much better compared to the recent ones. I don't know, it could be just a matter of preference. Thank you Accustats!
You're welcome!
No you are right. Players and game today boring.
😯 ... I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH THIS MATCH 😯😉👍👍😉😯 ... THANKS IN ADVANCE PAT AND ACCUSTATS !!!! 🥳
You WILL enjoy it!
PAT ... ACCUSTATS ... YOU ARE AND WERE 100 % CORRECT WITH YOUR STATEMENT - I CAN'T HELP BUT COMMENT WHAT EARL HAS SAID SO PASSIONATELY AND FREQUENTLY FOR MANY YEARS ... THIS IS THE GREATEST SPORT ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH - AND TO SEE / HEAR GRADY - BILLY AND JOHNNY AFTER THE MATCH - AT THAT SPECIFIC MOMENT IN TIME ... ALL THINGS WERE RIGHT IN THIS WORLD ... PAT I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT SOMETHING ... I AM JEALOUS THAT YOU HAVE LIVED A LIFE SURROUNDED BY LEGENDARY PLAYERS LIKE THOSE IN THIS VIDEO - AMONG
NUMEROUS OTHERS FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT - YOU HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO EXCHANGE DIALOG AND BECOME LIFE LONG FRIENDS WITH THESE GREAT HUMAN BEINGS - YOU HAVE SHARED SUBSTANTIAL MONUMENTAL MOMENTS IN TIME WITH THE LIKES OF GRADY - BILLY - REMPE - HALL - ARCHER - EFREN - SHANNON ECT ... ECT ... GOD BLESS YOU PAT AND ACCUSTATS - 🙏 GOD BLESS EVERYONE WHO HAS POSITIVELY INFLUENCED AND IMPACTED OUR GREAT SPORT IN COUNTLESS FACETS - GOD BLESS THE WAR ... AND ALL THE LESSONS IT HAS IN STORE - SO MOTE IT BE 🙏
Johnny Archer came to the Villages in Fla. and the gave out 3 tickets for $20 each to play him one game of 9-ball. He was a pure gentleman, and said I will rack them for you and let you break. I broke and made a ball on the break and then ran 5 more. I didn't have a great shot so I played him safe, he tried to play me safe and I got out. The next day Phil Diangelo called me and said, I know you don't buy the newspaper but you better get one today, your picture is on the front page of the Daily News, with the caption-Ron Cerelli (The Legend) gets out and beats Johnny Archer. wow, what a fabulous experience. Thank you Johnny for being such a gentleman.
Has efren ever beat archer every video I see efren loses
And everybody says efren is the best ever but archer plays like a god
Ron Cerelli "Old School Pool" author?
Very cool story.!
I could call asleep to Gradys commentary every night...wish we could get him and JJ together 😂
Gradys has passed away many years ago.
We had a one-pocket tournament at College billiards, someone asked Grady to watch the hit. He's like," I'd rather not, I mean what do I get out of it? Nothing but grief"...
The older gentleman is a total pro, with lots advice! I like listening to thos man speak!
20:30 "well, I'm in the same place you are and you sent yours in." Hahaha good one. Billy schooling the professor!
That was a good comeback. He didn't even hesitate.
love to watch efren than anybody else,
The battle on the pool table is just as good as the battle of the announcers calling it. Great video!! "He's drinking from a dry can!" lol
Glad you enjoyed it!
Commentator ALMOST has the "Herbert the perve$t" whistle going on lol. I just kept hearing him say "I got a pool table in my basement" in Herbert's voice! 🤣 Herbert's older deeper voiced brother Gerbert.
Enjoyed the commentary 💯
Glad to hear it
lol, you think these announcers got into a fist fight after, the chirping back and forth was almost as entertaining as the pool
That black Brunswick table is sweet.
It is badass
Theres 2 matches here, the players and the ANNOUNCER!! LOL
Awesome match-up and great video quality, nice commentary as usual!
Much appreciated!
Dear accu stats, bring entertaining commentators such as billy, danny and mike sigel. I respect mark wilson and jack but i don't want to listen for analysis every single shot. We need jokes, stories and arguing. This what makes long match pool fun to watch.
You know when bro says he’d drive 1000 miles on a dulcet winter night to watch this match things are about to get serious
That two rail kick shot blew Johnny's mind! Watch the match and you'll see what I'm talking about,
When did Archer stop playing at this pace. Love to see his older matches. He trusts is instincts and executes.
I need Archer at my wedding so he can help pick off all the lint from my groomsmen’s jackets
Efren is my no 1 favorite but i admire archer too i think archer is one of efren toughest opponent and i like archer attitude and dedication to the game he has the important quality of a brilliant and awsome pool player
You had to be kidding! What Johnny boy, Efren's toughest opponent? Don't be silly! Try Eral.
@@josephlee4337 nope earls attitude when things dont go he's way is one of the reason why earl is not the toughest opponent even jango said archer they worried about no earl bcuz they know how to handle earl and archer is more professional than earl..
This was the time Efren began having major shoulder issues, and he never mentioned it to anyone. He was playing through pain here. Only a few years later it prevented him from elevating the rear of his cue for masse' shots.
Johnny Archer was one of the biggest money players out there, icecold killer....won millions. But 10-10 against the GOAT can make any man shake his hands.
You are right on target. Did you see Archer's demeanor and speed by which he moved around that table for every shot?? He was literally possessed with Victory over Efren. No smiling or Any distractions....just pure "ice cold killer" instinct over the goat.
Unfortunately he didn’t hang on to a cent, like most great pool players. Once they can’t beat the world they go bust
Grady Matthews: Johnny, we like hugs around here!
2020: hold my beer....
The two best guys ever.
"A lot of guys would kill for these guy's C game, and when their A game is in evidence, well it's something quite spectacular." And Thanks to James Cameron for the cinematography, we're not used to this in the adolescence of the 2000s.
Thanks again guys. Great match. Have you got any matches from 2001 us open 9ball? I can't find any matches anywhere.
As of now, only on DVD's. We have 16 matches. Go to accu-stats.com
Loved the match Reyes is a great player don't see this happen to much this is a great match
My two favorite players, at that time...
Grady. Knew & played you in
Colorado Springs. You're the
same.
Grady was right about the importance of the break... ESPECIALLY on the last rack.
Listening the commentators you would think they were way better players than the guys playing. Geez
well they werent too far off i can tell you that. They both were great players and they were doing their jobs. efren and Johnny both would acknowledge that they did great commentating. You guys are just soft nowadays
Thank you. I constantly see comments of people saying the commentating is bad. I think its the polar opposite. @mattverville9227
If Efren is playing you know one of the commentators is going to complain about his “lack of break power”.
He has finesse and doesn’t need power all the time!
Grady has a point, the break is very important for acquiring and maintaining advantage. Even if one has such a finesse like The Magician, one can get easily behind a powerful breaker like Archer or Strickland.
Does anyone know what model Brunswick that is they are playing on? I have never seen a gold crown that looks as sharp as this one
Looks like brunswick gold crown 4
Can someone explain to my why, in the first game of the video, Archer's first shot after the break wasn't a scratch? He hut the cue like 3 inches and didn't hit a rail or anything.
It was a push
One of the dudes sounds like Tom Anderson,a character from "Beavis & Butt-Head" :)))
He needed new dentures that don't whistle
6:52 what a master class performance
master class fluke, good kick though
This commentating is almost better than the match
Grady Mathews is what it would sound like if William Faulkner had gone into billiards instead of writing.
If the old guy is Grady, then he called the match correctly right from the start. Efren just couldn´t match Archer in the break - the most important shot in pool - and it ended up costing him.
Efren is a tenacious player. Never count him out. Remember, he was down 17, SEVENTEEN, games playing in the Color of Money against Strickland.
These commentators were about to come to blows
i say johhny archer is outstanding
Yo these commentators sound like me and my ex... They cant agree on anything 😂😂😂
Ain't that fun?
@@AccuStats Yes!
Whataya mean they think exactly the same , only different
haha hilarious
double kissed the bank? Wrong again Billy. I thought it was makeable and Archer made it. Talent Billy.
Wrong again BILLY!!! Lmao 😂
But the cue ball came back very quickly and the 5 was on the rail so I believe it was a double kiss
Matthew Grady such a fenomenal commentator at the time and even better Pool player.
So, players rack for each other sometimes in these matches?
yea expecially in earlier matches or non tv table matches
Efren's Breaking Cause Him this Match,, But Johnny's Pocketing is Accurate...
I don't think Grady thinks that Efren can win with a break like that lol
I'm glad they have a shot clock now. Watching Archer walk round and round the table aint the one. Thank god for the +5 secs button
Got a Jay Swanson reference and a Ronnie Allen quote in the same match. Only Grady Mathews!!❤️🙏👉🇺🇸👍
The commentators bantering is the best part of this match - like a couple of old nagging hens . . .
I came here to watch two great players shoot a game. Instead we actually have 3 games to further confuse and confound. We have Billy's game, and Grady's game, and we get to hear their endless kibitzing and bickering instead of respecting the video audience who tuned in to enjoy the ONE game that is advertised. Why not ERASE the sound track and all their bullshit and just have one able person commentate on what Efren and Johnny are DOING...Not what the commentator thinks they SHOULD be doing...
If I was you, I'd stop watching this garbage. Of course, everybody else loves it. 🙂
Archer cleaning everything always 😂
So he has excuses if he miss it!! 😂🤣😅😆😁
He cleans up here in Knoxville TN once a year to play in our annual Big Boy Tournament at Billiards and Brews next one is Nov 6 can't wait to watch him play again and all the side bets going on
He needs to bring a little Dust Buster with him. LOL
Commentators non stop gibberish.
Talk for 2 minutes with no pauses about how to play the shot, the balls, stick, the covering, humidity, the room, a history of the player, how they shoot, their weakness, strengths... then player plays a totally different way..
"Or they could do that.."
Im sorry. That shot at 7:00 might be some of the most impressive pool ive seen. Please keep in mind Im completely new and green to this sport. But holy shit
It was a fluke, a lucky shot. Not intended
@MCFoultier I highly doubt that, but I respect your opinion 🫱🏾🫲🏿
@@shotsfired2188 you just said you are completely new and green to this sport. The hit on the ball via one rail was intentional. The second hit, double kiss and pot in the side pocket was completely unintentional. You can believe that.
I only "just said" that over 90 days ago but you got it lil bro. Also, the commentators said it was some luck involved but he clearly calculated what he was doing. At the end of the day, i respected your opinion but im sure you just wanna be right 😂. Have a good day @MCFoultier
In 2011 Phil DeAngelo put a big expo on in the Villages where I lived. When the expo was over Phil sold 3 tickets for $20 each to play Johnny Archer one game of 9-ball. 2 guys went up and lost and Phil said ticker # 513. I gasped cause I had that ticket. Phil said Johnny we know you are in the world hall of fame and you are a legend, but we have a legend here in the Villages and he is Ron Cerelli The Legend, so Johnny said you can break Ron. I did and made a ball on the break, then proceeded to make 5 more. I had long rail shot from the front rail to the back rail. There were about 200 people in the bleachers and I almost tried the shot but I thought , there are a lot of my students in the audience so I played safe. Johnny tried to play me safe back, but he didn't and I got out. He was such a gentleman, congratulated me, wow was I shaking. The next day the Daily Sun newspaper had my picture on the cover and it said The Legend beats a legend. I will never forget how great I felt.-Ron Cerelli The Legend
Ayyyyy nice win Ron!
Great story i look forward to hearing more. - Shorty Dancer, the legend.
Congrats ron...your my hero now
Grady can't pipe down about Efren's weak break. LOL Still, great commentating though from both Bill and Grady.
Lol I was literally flabbergasted how he spent 3 racks talking about a dry break
Watching matches from many different years of the magicians career and it seems to be his weak point of the game to many commentators. Fanboys never like it.🤷
This is the first time I've seen real ball colours in a us video.
Grady Matthews commentary is always great... Billy I. normally annoys me but he wasn't too bad this match.
billy’s my favorite lol
11:11:15. Did anyone catch that? “Lots of bitches”. Hahahahaha
What a battle.
Grady Mathews about Efren: "You won't win with that break." This guy is annoying af.
Exactly.
he s fucking bias
Yeah. That's a fairly arrogant thing to say. Different times, I guess.
Efren turned out to be the greatest pool player of all time. Somehow he managed it without having the strongest break in the world. So I guess the commentator was talking out of his ass. The other commentator, responding to his professorial colleague, rightly remarked at one point that "I'm not qualified to be Efren's coach."
Do you even know who the commentator is? Id figure out who they are before you make a judgment. This is Grady Matthews and Billy Incardona. Look em up...
@@TerryWilsonModels I'm only considering the content of what was said in relation to certain facts. As already stated, Efren turned out to be the greatest ever without the strongest break. That goes against the drift (or logic) of what the professor said. I don't care who this professor is; that's irrelevant. All that's relevant here is the professor's inaccuracy, which requires correction. Accomplished people are not infallible. Just because they're accomplished, as this professor is, it doesn't mean we should give them a pass for the faulty things they do or say.
@@yacovmitchenko1490 and I’m commenting on your complete lack of respect. You can say someone is wrong without being condescending and insulting. He did turn out to be wrong. But it’s opinion not fact.
@@TerryWilsonModels I apologize for that. I know I need to curb that tendency. In part, I reacted that way because he seemed to be condescending. Which rubbed me the wrong way. But that's ironic because I can be that way too.
@@yacovmitchenko1490 Grady can be that way at times…that is why he got the nickname the professor.
"Ronnie Allen calls that the "high speed wobbles"" That's even funnier when you know that the other Ron Allen is a skateboarder.
Who would drive me more crazy. Archer or Hopkins
i cant watch hopkins stroke. I think johnny was fun to watch back then. You started to see him start to pick lint and stuff but he still shot pretty fast. Archer didnt get slow until later on in his career
Hey Billy, Archer is from Atlanta. Thus the coke in his hand. You know... The real thing when you see it!
He was actually born in Waycross and live most of his life in my hometown Twin City 😉 i've also shot partners with him
efren needs his magics to pull this from j. archet
however great are diamond tables, they cant come close to how cool black gold crowns look on tv
👍👍Black Gold crowns, beautiful tables..
I noticed the beauty of that table as well
Horrible commentators. Disagreeing and fighting the whole time. They both wanted to be right...
That's the best part!
These 2 commentators are 2 of the greatest billiards commentators to ever pick up a Mic
It will be boring to watch if they just keep agreeing with each other.
Diamond tables are the trend. But I love those classic gold crown tables.
You dont have any pepsi left in that coke can Johnny...😉
Somebody give Billy and the Rifleman some other stuff to do if they can't agree on anything. Their exchanges made this classic, interesting match such a pain to watch. Turned off the volume. Thank you for these videos, especially that they're 60 fps
Jeremiah Reyes it’s Billy Incardona and Grady Mathews commentating, not Buddy Hall.
Archer played great
Great match from two legends! Too bad Archer didn’t stick around
Good match. Beginning seems a little one sided but stay with it.
that cue ball looks huge
IS IT AN OVERSIZED, WEIGHTED, AND MAGNETIC BALL? IT LOOKS SLOW ROLLING, ALSO.
I WAS HOPING THE COMMENTATORS, WOULD COMMENT ON THE SIZE OF THE CUE BALL, AND IT'S PURPOSE.
GEEZ, If you wanna listen to commentators argue then this is the video for you!
Boy, these two announcers sure do argue and disagree politely.
never will there ever be a table like a gold crown
Gradys sounds like fog horn lage horn .
What in the I say what do you suppose we have here lol
6:53 was hilarious
This 2 announcer are competting too!! 😂🤣🤣😅😆
Either you were temporarily color blind are you did not watch enough of the greats
lol he said i dont like when he scratches his head...cause it means he dont know what to do and he comes up with weird shots and makes them then right after he says it boom he makes it lol
….then silence 😂 7:00