With the amount of times Linus said “gentle ribbing” in this clip, I’m expecting to receive LTT men’s contraceptive products before an LTT soldering iron.
@@petermuller608 technically colebar didnt finalize a pattent so LTM can 100% design their own. Its more than 10 years old so... i think if LMM wanted to they could argue the trademark isnt being used so if they wanted to hijack the trademark they might also be able to do so (though i dont see how that would add value to LMM, compared to calling it the LTT multi hammer or something)
Every iFixit tool I’ve purchased is still in great condition, works great, and has never left me feeling like I overspent on something. This soldering iron looks phenomenal for someone like me that wants a simple, portable, “just works” kinda product not tied to the wall.
Get some T12 compatible station with different tips - I have one from FSGR and it is cheap and absolutely great - and a stand. If you do not need hot tweezers, desolder pumps and stuff (which I don’t) this is all you will ever need. Accessory wise, get some brass wool, wick, a desolder pump, nice thin flux core tin and a syringe with flux. I have several hot air stations but cannot recommend one. All the cheap ones I bought were not good, guess you have to spend north of $500 for that
Main thing is: it must be new-gen eg. heather is the tip, if the tip goes on/over the heater it will be shit in comparison, even if you pay 1k$(I donated all my old gen Ersa and Weller soldering irons). So as long as it suports Hakko T12 or JBC C245 tips for general use or JBC C210 / Weller WMRP for precision work
I don't see iFixit giving LTT any one of a kind prototypes in the near future, that's for sure. It might end up being auctioned off, just ask Billet Labs. Maybe that whole ordeal pissed off the iFixit guys as well
@@Mikkel111 dbrand is constantly giving him a hard time but it always seems to be in good fun. I'm not too sure about ifixit, but without actually seeing the context and knowing the general attitude of the person who made the comment it's hard to tell. That said they clearly don't have that level of rapport with Linus so the comment came off as rather unprofessional.
Or any European company like Wiha and Wera, whom make screwdrivers like these for 70+ years. I would rather buy LTT then iFixit, and maybe It's a good joke face-to-face, but on the web without any context it is not a good move at all.
The LTT screwdriver isn’t a replacement to an iFixIt kit. Plus I support everything iFixIt does. When you buy their product you support their vision - not just the product they make.
I personally mainly bought the ltt precision set because i left my ifixit pro tech toolkit outside once and my dog chewed up the screwdriver case and the foam, so i want something to replace it in my toolkit
they should use amazon's FBA in europe, they'll never set up their own warehouse here, and prices will still be cheaper than getting it individually shipped from canada
Yeah when I ordered the Screwdriver and the Backpack, I paid so much shipping. It was worth it because the backpack and the Screwdriver are awesome, but saving on this would be great
Indeed! Ordered a screwdriver when it first came out, all possible bits, and a deskpad .... Shipping was quite a bit. But that's OK-ish. What really pissed me off, were the import taxes I had to pay - which was a lot 😐
Neat idea, but I feel like the Pinecil absolutely obliterates this thing in value proposition AND ease of use. The web-app to adjust settings is neat i guess, but I'd rather just have the screen of the Pinecil. I've never had issues adjusting it to the temps I need. (A shame the tips aren't cross compatible too, I'dve probably bought tips)
I like the idea of what ifixit did here, but the value isn't there. At least in the US, I can get a pinecil and a battery pack for about the cost of just the soldering iron from ifixit, their only win for me is the included stand/cover. Big downside is If you don't buy the ifixit battery pack you have no control over even basic things like temperature without using the web interface. I personally use a ts101 with ironOS flashed onto it and the cross compatibility with pinecil tips etc. is great. Right now the ifixit tips are proprietary with virtually no selection of options. Maybe the ifixit option is a little more precise or something but at least for my specific use case, what I have works more than well enough, heats up very quickly etc.
@@mau4713 yeah the idea may be good but if you ask me not everything has to be web-enabled. a small display and a button is obviously enough. my pinecil is for quick fixes on the go or even if i have to solder something somewhere else. for everything (more or less) planned i got my station. the ifixit iron looks like it wants to be a middleground but unneccessary techy
@@mau4713 That's my main issue with it too. The battery is pretty essential since you can't control the temperature without (very weird design if you ask me) but with the battery it costs more than even something like a Hakko FX888, and considerably more than a Pinecil if you need a portable one in an area that would not have AC jacks but you need to perform soldering for some reason (and you can still get a 3rd party battery that would work with a Pinecil). Very little feedback as well since it has no screen, and no feedback at all if you don't get the battery. The battery itself is also fairly useless if you don't need the iron to be portable and are just going to be soldering at home. It just makes no sense for it's price. For people who don't need it to be portable it costs more than a decent Hakko and far more than a Pinecil, and if you need it portable you have far more options with a Pinecil. That's not even getting into how the headphone jack is a poor choice for something that's going to be heating up as much as a soldering iron tip does, or how you can order a replacement for just about any part of the Pinecil (You can even upgrade it by soldering on a hall effect sensor chip, the board has a space for it if you want that feature) while iFixit's iron has proprietary parts and needs a proprietary expensive battery to control it's temperature. Feels like the opposite of the kind of device IFixit would recommend.
and how much of the revenue do you think tools VS parts make for them? like Linus have been constant "as RUclipsr you must diversify your income" here we have company like iFitit that has a good mission that makes sells tools now let's take yourself... how likely you are to buy both LTT and iFixit tools in the same product category...
@@balsalmalberto8086 to be fair, it is just enough to turn it on and off, make small adjustments... it is not mean to be a main soldering iron anyway, and it is just perfect for that. I do agree that other soldering irons are more convenient for continuous work.
I have a ts80 (nonp) that I loved but the OLED slowly died, so I got a pinecil v2 so I had a solering iron to replace the OLED with on the ts80, and it's a great kit too. direct heater means it handles groundplaces really well.
I’ll take my Pinecil soldering iron any day. It’s about 30 bucks and can heat up in about 10 seconds. Plus it’s ultra portable and it’s just all around amazing. If memory serves, LTT had it in the handy tech under 100 video a few months ago
The bigger thing that got me was the inclusion of the bit that sizes up the precision bits for use in the regular-size screwdriver, that's gold right there, and the precision kit will be stashed alongside the screwdriver because of.
That's pretty standard in every "the whole kit" style, well, kits. Even cheapo chinese-import sets come with them. Super great ones? Not really, but functional.
This case it's a 1/8" vs 4mm, not a published standards issue. They messed up and picked the less popular size at first. I've seen several tool companies make the same mistake. Klien comes in 1/8" and General used to make an 1/8" battery powered driver, but changed the size to 4mm when they realized it was the more popular size.
I used to use £25 soldering irons. I remember as a student using those same £25 soldering irons, and they were terrible to try and learn to solder with, because they weren't very well maintained. So when I became the technician, I maintained the soldering irons, and even though the soldering irons were cheap, I'm sure simply having tips that weren't terrible went a long way to improving the experience for the next generation of students. And the lecturers knew I was good at soldering, so they'd often have me give a "How to solder" demonstration. Between the maintained cheap soldering irons, and my tips on how to use them, I'm sure many students had a much better experience than I did as a student.
Same, I upgraded from the TS100 for the USB-C. I had been using a generic C to barrel cable with built in PD trigger but it would only work with specific PD profiles and chargers. Now with the pinecil I can use any type-c charger as long as it supplies enough wattage, and even if it doesn't it still powers on and shows what's wrong.
I bought one for myself, knew nothing other than that they were what pros used. Holy fuck, the difference between a metcal and everything else is insane.
@@PabloEdvardo it’s like going from driving a breaking down shitbox and then getting to drive a Ferrari. Everything has been inferior since. I will say though that Hako has much better value for money. If I need a full professional solder station at home I’ll be buying a Hako station. I just cannot afford a $1500-$2000 metcal station personally.
honestly after working with the JBC complete soldering station i really wouldn't want to work with anything else. Aerospace research too, guess they treat their employees better lol
I had the same experience as Luke with soldering. I was installing car speakers in a driveway and using a $30 straight-into-the-wall soldering iron. It was Weller brand so I thought it would be okay, but I could absolutely not get it to work. Another time I borrowed a nice Weller soldering station from the '80s/'90s to solder some pins onto a Teensy, and it was like butter. I may not have given the soldering station back...
It's a cheaper way to implement controls. It's so that you can use any locally connected device (I presume) to control it rather than requiring iFixit to manufacture a control panel with it. Btw, soldering irons (that I've dealt with) have power as well as temperature control. It's likely a very simple web interface, but I'd bet it does great for keeping the price down.
I have a TS100 and had a Pinecil V1. The Pinecil died after I used 24V on it after I cut the trace that their wiki said to cut for it to accept 24V. What I like about my TS100 is the ease of use and portability. I can grab one of my 6S batteries, the XT60 cable for the TS100 and the TS100 itself and take them in my pockets. I once went with a cheap pair of headphones I use when I'm outside (if someone snatches them it won't be much of a loss) because the batteries used on those are shit. I grabbed a larger battery that fit in the headphones, desoldered the stock battery, soldered in the new one. While I put the headphones together and paid for the battery (I'm a regular customer at the shop), the iron had more than cooled down to put back in my pocket. Now there's the TS101 and the Pinecil V2 that supposedly supports higher voltages than 20V.
edit: I went and actually looked at the product page and it also has controls on the device, now I kinda want one. as a mechanic I am incredibly tempted by that soldering iron, but the web controls are not what I want for a soldering iron to throw in my tool bag for an away repair mission. right now I use a butune iron and it's great for getting the job done, but harder to find a wider selection of tips for.
Look into the Pinecil. idk if it has enough thermal output for an automotive mechanic, but it works with TS100 tips, runs on any USB-C >= 3 Amps, heats up fast, has good temp/idle adjustments, and costs $26. (plus $12 shipping from the official store, so if you want official tips or the translucent shell, buy them at the same time)
@@andymorin9163 Indeed, Pinecil v2 is probably right now the best soldering iron because it has the best support by IronOS plus it has fully open schematics. See some Louis Rossmann videos if you don't understand why schematics part matters.
On learning to solder, I learned in ET A school in the Navy and the tools were trash and I was convinced I was very bad at it. When I got out to the fleet and got well maintained equipment and stuff I bought myself soldering became easy. Bad tools make every job much harder.
What is it that one guy said? Skilled tradesman can do an amazing job with shit tools, a beginner will be driven to quit with bad tools; But the best tools won't make an expert out of someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Thus we get to a truth: Mid-range tools tend to be the best middle ground where the beginner can learn, and won't hate themselves - and an expert will easily make great products, but you don't need to break the bank.
On learning to solder in EM A school (nuke field, so we shared all but the last class with the ETs), and then never using it again in a professional setting, when I did my own stuff at college afterwards/for personal projects, I learned the absolute crap soldering irons we had in tool issue were absolute crap.
@@gwenbd9429 I honestly have no idea what was wrong with the people running the school at Great Lakes but for the tiny increase in costs they could have been sending much better prepared techs out to the fleet.
As an automotive technician who has to work on control modules and solders electrical connections, I would love a line of actual sledgehammers with the biggest being a "hard reset" or some similar play on words.
iFixit seems to have forgotten that their product concepts aren't exclusive to them. If someone has an idea to create a better product with more expensive materials and higher quality, then there's nothing wrong with that. In the end this is good for consumers.
@@boycefennIt’s like Amazon creating similar Amazon Basics products of other products that companies use their platform for to advertise and handle the logistics of. Is it illegal, no, but certainly in bad taste.
People say a 15watt iron for PCBs is good, but let me tell you... 25watt was the trick for me. Plus a tip cleaner plus FLUX. FLUX FLUX FLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUXXX
Good name branded leaded 63/37 solder. cheap t12/t15 soldering for me. I NEVER need tip cleaner with proper maintenance tips will last for years. wet sponge >>>>>>> brass sponge.
@@vad35 don't eat the solder. Lead is a dense metal that's not very eager to evaporate. It's the flux fumes that are not good to breathe, but those are present regardless of solder type you're using.
@@vad35 One danger that's sort-of forgotten, is that if you work in a lab, with lots of soldering, then it's possible to generate very fine solder dust. The larger solder blobs that get generated during soldering are obvious, and normal people aren't going to eat them, but if you work in an area where there's soldering dust, then it can stick to your hands, and if you don't wash them and then eat, you can ingest it.
@@vad35 You should wear a mask and be in a well ventilated place when soldering regardless of lead content. But the main reason for the ban on leaded solder in products is actually to prevent lead from getting into places from e-waste. It's still not a very healthy thing to work with, but you'll be fine if you only get the iron out for the odd repair job.
My take is this: The LTT precision driver is for me, an enthusiast regular PC builder and LTT fan for over a decade now. The iFixit sets are great for anyone regardless of who they have subbed on RUclips. I have purchased MANY iFixit kits for myself, friends and family over the years. They are excellent gifts even for non-tinkerers. You never know when you might need an obscure tiny bit to fix something. When I do eventually purchase the LTT driver set, it will be a complement to my tool collection, not a replacement of iFixit products. I imagine that iFixit has smart enough people there to recognize that overlap does not mean replacement. I recommend both iFixit and LTT products to friends and family fairly regularly. Also, that soldering iron looks super sick! I really need to devote more time to learning the craft as I have several small projects on the backburner.
Oh, I didn't realize they made the bits longer for the LTT one. Might have to pick up a bit set at some point and just put my iFixit driver in that case. I frequently end up being unable to use the iFixit one simply because the bits don't go deep enough.
@@Okurka. Can you though? I think you're talking about a normal plug in soldering iron. Yea you can get cheap ones. But wireless soldering irons are industrial and they come in industrial prices. They're used so you don't trip over the cord and ruin someone's 180000 dollar truck.
@@Okurka. Look up "weller butane soldering pyropen" You can call it whatever you want. But 200 bucks has been the standard price for these. The only argument I'm making is that the notion that 200 bucks for a wireless soldering iron is insane is not true. It's been pretty standard for this type of soldering iron. I'm all for cheap stuff. It's just this pricing range is not new.
@@balsalmalberto8086 24 bucks price difference where i live but pinecil was hard to get even a year ago(only in the last few months the V2 started appearing out of nowhere) but TS100 was readily available
Honestly just describing the features was a great ad for the product. I already have the full iFixit tech toolkit bag with everything at my mechanic shop, but every once in a while I've taken it home or something and I need another bit set to keep there, and with those features, even without the LTT branding I'd be ready to buy it.
Harbor Freight has a downright 1:1 copy of their screwdriver kit, and they didn't complain and they have acknowledged it. So their claim LTT is copying is a bit weird.
Saying ltt stole ideas for this is like saying Dwalt stole Milwaukee’s idea when the two might be the same tool but they have differences to them. ( idk about quality differences nowadays but they where obvious when I was younger.)
I have a precision screwdriver kit that I bought like 20 years ago that looks and behaves exactly like both the iFixit and LTT sets. This is far from novel. (Not trashing either of them)
I bought a $20 solder kit on amazon to fix my cars dash lights since they burnt out and I had a kit to replace them, works perfectly fine and I never soldered before, took me less than 30 minutes to fix my stuff up.
@@ohokcoolwell it's a fair point. It's a plastic box that holds a bit driver and a bunch of bits. How much variation in the design do you expect to see?
I really need someone to make an adjustable spanner (wrench) that isn't shit. Where the adjustment doesn't have tons of slack and is super hard to adjust when you've got it round something arms deep under a sink, and where the pincers are much thinner so other pipes aren't getting in the way. You could even make an auto adjust so it will tighten itself until it fits the bolt
I have several spanners that are just peachy fine for adjustment without a lot of slack. I forget the manufacturer, and can't be arsed to go look. I can tell you they were a bit more expensive than the other options sitting on the shelf, and if you wanted even tighter tolerances you are going to get to a point of "not worth the extra cost". Automatic is asking for ludicrous complexity - you need some means to fit a bloody motor in the damn thing now, and a power supply. And as for making small pincers? Now you need to go find a material that is durable, and cheap while being strong enough to not just bend and... that's a tall order. There is a reason bigger spanners have chonkier pincers and it's the added force from increased torque needs to be resisted - otherwise, you are going to at some point bend/break your wrench. The actual solution to the "other pipes getting in the way" is proper bloody plumbing layout that gives the space necessary to work on everything if/when needed. And that means having someone competent with a brain to realize how it all needs to be set up needs to do the work, which tends to cost you more money than the one guy on your team that did plumbing as a kid with their dad and won't completely screw it up but is really more useful as the guy that hauls the necessary material up the stairs so other guys can get the work done because the guy is hopeless when it comes to doing construction of any kind.
Honestly, you might end up having to patent something just to keep someone else from patenting it and charging license fees. Get the patent then make it public.
Is that possible - especially if you can prove that your product was out available for sale before the patent application date? I want to say that it's a reason that the patent application would get denied. It's already in the market. I think it's called 'prior art' and the issued patent would have a tough time not being rendered invalid.
As part of a patent don't you have to prove that your product is new or innovates far enough away from existing designs to be treated as a completely new product? So for a screwdriver you would almost certainly have to mess with form factor, bit size, bit attachment and loads of other things to justify it being new No one in this conversation invented screwdrivers, they are all variants on existing standards
The nice JBC solder stations also help you learn how to solder. They track how much heat is put into the solder joint, so you can muddle about until you find the right heat curve and then practice to replicate that and understand how different materials/pad sizes/ground planes/components react to different heat curves. It's very, very useful if you want to go anywhere beyond basic hobby electronics.
When you compare the price of the iFixit soldering iron to a professional soldering iron and to something like the TS100 or the pinesil, The features are closer to the latter two but the price is closer to a professional station
With all due respect. The precision set is very, very inspired by the style of the ifixit set. The foam cutout placements, the placement of the magnets. it seems really that ltt just changed enough not to be sued.
Yeah, haha, I looked at what Linus showed and just thought 'oh, he has the same ifixit kit that I do, but orange'. Same magnets, stackable. Doesn't open exactly the same way, but that seemed to be the only thing 😅
I quite literally have never bought a single iFixit product,. Never ever. And my iFixit screwdriver (friend left it 3 years ago) is still the best God damn thing you can hope to have yourself.
They might have trouble since it's not in your name, but my experience has been their support is excellent if you ever have trouble with the driver or bits. I'm convinced the metal handles will last forever 😂
ifixit cheaped out on their driver and made a plastic one. I have an old iFixit kit with the aluminum driver, but if I was buying today I'd absolutely be looking for a better driver. Maybe the LTT kit will deliver EDIT: ifixit sells the metal driver separately now, so if you buy a kit with plastic driver it can be replaced. Point stands that the plastic driver feels cheap
I think it depends on the kit you buy. On their website, some of their kits offer the anodized aluminum driver, and others have the polymer driver, with usually the smaller kits having the polymer driver and larger kits having the aluminum driver.
Did you buy a phone screen repair kit or something along those lines? Those are plastic, because they are expected to be used like once. The full sets should be aluminum still.
I have the mako with an aluminum driver, close friend of mine ordered a newer kit and it had a plastic driver I don’t see that kit on their site anymore, so maybe they came to their senses and kept the aluminum handle on current kits. Complaint still stands that iFixIt was the first to cheapen their own product.
@@just-a-waffle I JUST looked on the website and found their Mako kit, and it's specified as having an aluminum driver. Unless your friend ALSO ordered the Mako kit and got a polymer driver, it's likely he ordered a cheaper kit. Again, they specify what material driver you're getting when you order a kit, so I don't really see it as an issue.
I don't like speculating, but iFixit has not given an official statement, so what other option do I have but to speculate? To me, it does not sound like Kyle was joking when he said that, and this is not a position I can support. It comes across as salty and makes me personally not want to buy their products.
Honestly after watching the launch of the ltt screwdriver I went on a deep rabbit hole and had such a higher expectation of what I wanted out of a ratcheting screwdriver as an electrician and contractor. So I'll thank you for that and to be honest I found what fit my needs the best was the Klein 11 in 1 system ratcheting screwdriver. Not having to touch the handle to change bits was a huge jump in saving time and work flow. I tried many, including yours (I still use the ltte at home but it doesn't make it to the job site anymore)
I have a TS101 and it can even handle lead-free solder (90W over USB-C PD). Works just like the iFixit iron except lesser power, but needing to plug the iron into my PC or get that power station to adjust temperature is a dealbreaker for me. And I'm coming from even more midrange stations like the FX-951 and FX-888D. (some of you might consider the FX-951 high end, until you see their entire lineup)
Thanks, I’m aware of how that works, just like you’re aware of how I was referring to the poor value proposition and yet still making the conscious effort to make comments like this.
LTT just can't--at the moment--become a competitor to IFixit. Ifixit has options for everyone's budget whereas LTT just sells a few tools at quite high of a price. And anyway IFixit sponsors them.
In lieu of getting banned by the bad faith rule, if we take the 3ft rule into effect; at a distance this does look like copy. It took an explanatory statement to show the differences. Same with the mod mat. At distance you have to explain your specific relationship with the progenitor of the OG mod mat. Expect these kind of critiques. In perpetuity
@@CanIHasThisName in the PC / electronics repair field. We'd have to be naive to not look at the LTT driver and not say "hey. Just like ifixit". Its our community. Now, show the LTT one to a mechanic and he's gonna say " oh hey. Just like Milwaukee ". BUT LTT being in this space, they're going to have to deal with comparisons of " copying" their peers. Cmon.
I mean they have a point with how the lid stacks on the back of the case identically to the ifixit one and that the screwdriver is extremely similar. But I don't think it's a problem, it's literally what happens when you make a precision screwdriver, kinda hard to reinvent the wheel
My Soldering Iron is something from Radioshack and a Pinecil. My son's is some $15 Parkside I got from the local Lidl grocery store. They all work. But iFixit will always be an absolute king in this industry. I have their kit and your screwdriver will be on the way sooner or later for my tool bag for work. I want that bit storage for precision work on the jobsite. If they'd made it with bit storage, I'd have it. (pretty sure a dozen commercial/industrial HVAC techs are using your drivers in some flavor or another as it's a good tool)
iFixit tools are mediocre stuff. Most of them seem to be rebranded chinese stuff or slightly altered. There's better tools out there, but most people don't know that or simply don't care. In general tools work, but they could work better, efficiently or be more comfortable.
Good for you. I doubt you're doing the intricate repairs that the others can do. Even the absolute best surface mount soldering geniuses I know aren't going to touch anything expensive with your 12 dollar iron.
iFixit may have some good tools, but fuck them for their fake partnerships with companies that never provide parts to repair their devices. Looking at you, HTC! "We provide parts through the manufacturer!" "Parts are out of stock and we don't know when they'll be back in stock."
I know very little about the issue you are describing, but I lean towards thinking the problem is HTC. HTC partners with ifixit to look good, ifixit believes HTC is negotiating in good faith (as they would not want to take the brand risk knowing it’s all smoke and mirrors), and HTC blames (insert excuse here) for not being able to properly stock parts for ifixit
TBH I wouldn't be suprised if the companies for these partnerships aren't giving parts easily, due to the fact they want people to still buy the newest thing. I would say that if it is such a issue, then they should drop support like they did with Samsung. But I wouldn't be supriised they can't drop it due to a contract or something like that. Of course if IFixIt are doing on this on purpose, then I would instantly drop buying anything else from IFixIT. But I doubt they are doing "fake partnerships" just becuase it wouldn't make sense for a repair tool and part company that sells expensive OEM parts to just never release them. As I said, I wouldn't be suprised at all if IFixIt partners are purposly screwing with giving parts, since it would stop people from buying a new device (which no company like HTC would want).
The Apple screen repair kits are basically half the cost of buying a new phone, since they come as a kit with the actual display rather than just the front glass
@@smalltime0 Same with Google Pixels. Cost to replace my Google Pixel 6 Pro's screen is around 2-3x the price to just buy a "like new" phone of the same model....
@@smalltime0the screens are laminated, you can’t gust replace the glass anymore that’s why you don’t see a gap between touch panel and display like you used to
Improving a hammer? Is it a ball peen hammer? Straight peen hammer? Welders hammer? Mechanics hammer? Scutch hammer? Bushing hammer? What I'm saying... Is I think it's going to be incredibly hard to innovate on a hammer. So I am really excited to see what Linus is cooking up for us.
A hammer would be stupid product to make not only for the fact that effectively anything that could be done has been done/is being done, but because WTF does a hammer have to do with PC's or consumer electronics? No point in making things that are fully off brand.
@@curtisbme I'd ask the same about bottles, pet stuff, bidets or towels... But LTT sells these. I think it could be possible to get a hammer that might be useful for working on servers installing rack studs or something, maybe for electricians even. But I do agree with you, it seems like selling a hammer for the sake of having an LTT product in your house. Then again, if the quality actually rivals what lots of shops are selling, and it's a good price, then it could be worth it. I just struggle to see how they're going to innovate with it.
@@curtisbme essentially everything that can be done has been or is being done isn't a good reason not to try, because, yeah, obviously it has/is being done, but not everything will have been done forever, everything decently functional feels complete. Take intercontinental travel. When ships were made of wood and powered by the wind, someone suggested to their father to build ships out of Metal, his father responded by getting a piece of wood and a piece of metal and throwing them in water, saying "this is why ships will never be made out of metal" the kid then went on to build the Ironclad... Is that story true? Probably not, it's likely over stated if it is, but, the point is, John Ericson did build the Ironclad, and when that was done, steam boats were built and everyone decided that was the fastest way to cross the ocean. So, for a while, we just kept building faster ships, and then, we ran out of practical ways to make them faster, at least at the time. And Simon Newcomb said "it'll take 1 to 10 million years with all the best minds working on the problem to build a heavier than air flying machine" (paraphrased) on October 22nd 1903, December 17th 1903 and the Wright Flyer I took the air. Now, admittedly, the development from the Wright Flyer I to the first international flight wasn't quite as short being about 16 years. But, the point stands, just 50 years and 36 days after the first intercontinental flight, man landed on the moon. Everything is the best it ever needs to be, until it's better. I'm not saying Linus is going to be the turning point in hammers, frankly I just wanted to talk about transportation, but even still, the point stands, everything is impossible or millions of years away, until it's done now.
@@GatorInVirtual ITS A FUCKIN' HAMMER. A peice of metal that you use to hit things. You obviously don't do any construction and likely haven't used one if you are aren't aware that there are many variations for many purposes and there is nothing left to be done for this function. Going off about inane things has nothing to do with the basics of a hammer. There is nothing Linus could add to it and it would be off brand to try.
I wasn't interested until he said deeper bits. The handful of time I had to stop using my ifixit on a controller is wild and find a small screw driver, why did I spend $80 on this to use a 40 year old one.
I recently got one of the Miniware TS101 soldering irons. Runs off USB C PD so a good powerbank or you can also just plug a barrel jack into it. I often run it directly off RC lipo batteries. It wont replace my Hakko 951 any time soon in my workshop. But for something to keep in the car or use for something quick its awesome.
Umm... iFixit aint wrong... the bit carrying case looks STRIKINGLY similar to theirs... nothing else on the market looks like that with foam bit holders. Sure its not patented but its a shady move to make the bit holder case look SOOOOO similar
My brother in christ it is a screwdriver with a bit kit They all look like that I could buy another Kobalt precision screwdriver and get a kit for it and it'd look really similar, it'd just have less bits. Only so many ways you can do one type of tool and concept.
There are 8 million different kits like this. Is this one better than the iFixit kit? It very well could be, especially in some minor details but they all look almost exactly the same
You have a brand that is very well known within a community, and then you introduce a competitor that (by nature of being the same thing) looks very similar. Obviously there will be discourse about copying
Does he mean that Linus is good at offering premium versions of his products? The iFixit Mako screwdriver set is the first time I spent good money on screwdrivers, and I've loved it. Wish I'd gotten it years before.
With the amount of times Linus said “gentle ribbing” in this clip, I’m expecting to receive LTT men’s contraceptive products before an LTT soldering iron.
do you think theyd do that before or after "Clench to Prone"
So long as it comes in "old electronics" flavour varieties 😅
Every time I heard "gentle ribbing" I kept imagining a frog gently saying ribbit in front of a microphone for an ASMR video.
@@RobotnikPlays What would that taste/smell like? Rosin flux, leaded solder and electrolyte?
...for YOUR pleasure.
> Damaged router
> Goes to fix with soldering iron
> Can't connect soldering iron to the Internet
B for effort
@@wojtek-33 hearty chuckle
It doesn't need the internet, just a browser
@@badactor9063 and with the station you dont even need the broswers.
dang it the localhost is not avaliable!
Linus: We might make a hammer
Me: The Colebar is so back!
We can only hope.
That's also my first thought too. LOL
Ditto 😂
Did they acquire Colebar?
@@petermuller608 technically colebar didnt finalize a pattent so LTM can 100% design their own.
Its more than 10 years old so... i think if LMM wanted to they could argue the trademark isnt being used so if they wanted to hijack the trademark they might also be able to do so (though i dont see how that would add value to LMM, compared to calling it the LTT multi hammer or something)
Every iFixit tool I’ve purchased is still in great condition, works great, and has never left me feeling like I overspent on something. This soldering iron looks phenomenal for someone like me that wants a simple, portable, “just works” kinda product not tied to the wall.
Unfortunately i dropped superglue on my screwdriver from them, and now it's not smooth working at all. Shame, but it still works.
have you heard of the pinecil for like fractions of the price and imo better usability and compatibility with other tips
@@xuyukun123 I’ll take a look, thanks for the tip.
@@xuyukun123 Yes - but not available at a reasonable price in Norway either. :/
I had a bit break shortly after buying one of their driver sets, but they replaced it at no cost very quickly. I’m very happy with their service!
If the ceo had beef, I can't imagine that they would be still sponsoring, sounds like a lot of nothing.
Blame fanbois blowing shit out of proportion.
Unless they already pre paid for the ads
@@dposcuro always
Depends on the cost vs reward. They might be a bit annoyed, but not annoyed enough to forego advertising to prime-target audience.
Linus has beef with Colton, keeps firing him every day. Doesn't stop him from rehiring him every day
2:21 please let Dan review some soldering irons, I want to know what to buy 😊
Pinecil 2 is simply the best
Couldn't agree more @vadnegru
Get some T12 compatible station with different tips - I have one from FSGR and it is cheap and absolutely great - and a stand. If you do not need hot tweezers, desolder pumps and stuff (which I don’t) this is all you will ever need. Accessory wise, get some brass wool, wick, a desolder pump, nice thin flux core tin and a syringe with flux.
I have several hot air stations but cannot recommend one. All the cheap ones I bought were not good, guess you have to spend north of $500 for that
Main thing is: it must be new-gen eg. heather is the tip, if the tip goes on/over the heater it will be shit in comparison, even if you pay 1k$(I donated all my old gen Ersa and Weller soldering irons).
So as long as it suports Hakko T12 or JBC C245 tips for general use or JBC C210 / Weller WMRP for precision work
If price is not a problem get a dual channel Metcal soldering iron
You made your tolerances worse so people could still use iFixit bits in it. Seems like iFixit should be very happy with you?
They didn't make tolerance worse just upsized everything
@@brooksfriess3139but they did go back and spend money manufacturing to be compatible with other people’s bits. Didn’t actually have to do that
@@brooksfriess3139 If you put in bits from a manufacturer following ISO spec then they will be loose.
@@brooksfriess3139 According to what Linus says in this clip, they did make their tolerances worse to accommodate iFixIt's current bits.
Changing the size =/= okaying a wider range of sizes
LTT Hammer. that is named "The Hard Reset" that is just a mini mallet like Thor's hammer.
"percussion maintenance tool"
Haha. I am always threating to fix my work laptop with a hammer. Like one day, it wouldn't charge.
Oh, a special air force $10,000 multi directional impact device.
iFixit relationship with LTT is starting to turn into the dbrand relationship
I don't see iFixit giving LTT any one of a kind prototypes in the near future, that's for sure. It might end up being auctioned off, just ask Billet Labs. Maybe that whole ordeal pissed off the iFixit guys as well
@@Csimon2429 it's hard to believe anyone is still going on about that, but here you are, still going on about it. The internet is a fascinating place
@@Csimon2429Well, they should not send it to them saying they can keep it if they want to be able to change their mind later.
What happened with dbrand?
@@Mikkel111 dbrand is constantly giving him a hard time but it always seems to be in good fun. I'm not too sure about ifixit, but without actually seeing the context and knowing the general attitude of the person who made the comment it's hard to tell. That said they clearly don't have that level of rapport with Linus so the comment came off as rather unprofessional.
I mean, it's a good joke. When I first saw the LTT set I thought iFixit in orange, lol.
Or any European company like Wiha and Wera, whom make screwdrivers like these for 70+ years.
I would rather buy LTT then iFixit, and maybe It's a good joke face-to-face, but on the web without any context it is not a good move at all.
Yeah same i thought it was some kind of deal LTT and ifixit came up with together
I thought it was an ifixit ltt edition lol
@@thombazThe LTT bits are made in China, the iFixit bits are made in Germany probably subcontracted to Wiha.
Tbf, I have a kit that is almost 20 years old, that looks exactly like ifixit but in black
The LTT screwdriver isn’t a replacement to an iFixIt kit. Plus I support everything iFixIt does. When you buy their product you support their vision - not just the product they make.
Comprehension stat: 0
@@Weneedaplague FYM? this is pretty much exactly what Linus said in the video
BRO THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PRECISION SCREWDRIVER FROM LTT
@@Weneedaplague Explain before we ridicule you.
I personally mainly bought the ltt precision set because i left my ifixit pro tech toolkit outside once and my dog chewed up the screwdriver case and the foam, so i want something to replace it in my toolkit
Is better EU shipping on the roadmap? I would order much more from LTT store if I didn't have to spend nearly $100 getting it here.
they should use amazon's FBA in europe, they'll never set up their own warehouse here, and prices will still be cheaper than getting it individually shipped from canada
They are looking into it for the screwdriver. Don't know about other products
Also, import taxes
Yeah when I ordered the Screwdriver and the Backpack, I paid so much shipping. It was worth it because the backpack and the Screwdriver are awesome, but saving on this would be great
Indeed! Ordered a screwdriver when it first came out, all possible bits, and a deskpad .... Shipping was quite a bit. But that's OK-ish. What really pissed me off, were the import taxes I had to pay - which was a lot 😐
"if you guys are mad, sorry" spoken like a true canadian
Neat idea, but I feel like the Pinecil absolutely obliterates this thing in value proposition AND ease of use. The web-app to adjust settings is neat i guess, but I'd rather just have the screen of the Pinecil. I've never had issues adjusting it to the temps I need.
(A shame the tips aren't cross compatible too, I'dve probably bought tips)
yeah the pinecil is just... good. like really good. i definitely should use it more often
I like the idea of what ifixit did here, but the value isn't there. At least in the US, I can get a pinecil and a battery pack for about the cost of just the soldering iron from ifixit, their only win for me is the included stand/cover. Big downside is If you don't buy the ifixit battery pack you have no control over even basic things like temperature without using the web interface.
I personally use a ts101 with ironOS flashed onto it and the cross compatibility with pinecil tips etc. is great. Right now the ifixit tips are proprietary with virtually no selection of options.
Maybe the ifixit option is a little more precise or something but at least for my specific use case, what I have works more than well enough, heats up very quickly etc.
@@mau4713 yeah the idea may be good but if you ask me not everything has to be web-enabled. a small display and a button is obviously enough. my pinecil is for quick fixes on the go or even if i have to solder something somewhere else. for everything (more or less) planned i got my station. the ifixit iron looks like it wants to be a middleground but unneccessary techy
@@mau4713 That's my main issue with it too. The battery is pretty essential since you can't control the temperature without (very weird design if you ask me) but with the battery it costs more than even something like a Hakko FX888, and considerably more than a Pinecil if you need a portable one in an area that would not have AC jacks but you need to perform soldering for some reason (and you can still get a 3rd party battery that would work with a Pinecil). Very little feedback as well since it has no screen, and no feedback at all if you don't get the battery. The battery itself is also fairly useless if you don't need the iron to be portable and are just going to be soldering at home.
It just makes no sense for it's price. For people who don't need it to be portable it costs more than a decent Hakko and far more than a Pinecil, and if you need it portable you have far more options with a Pinecil. That's not even getting into how the headphone jack is a poor choice for something that's going to be heating up as much as a soldering iron tip does, or how you can order a replacement for just about any part of the Pinecil (You can even upgrade it by soldering on a hall effect sensor chip, the board has a space for it if you want that feature) while iFixit's iron has proprietary parts and needs a proprietary expensive battery to control it's temperature. Feels like the opposite of the kind of device IFixit would recommend.
@@mau4713and ifixit‘s is the cheapest in the us even
Linus just casually reminding iFixit about the other 80% of their products and services beyond "a precision bit driver".
To be fair, there is Pinecil which works in similar manner in $35. So... double the price when there are cheap clones everywhere? Meh.
and how much of the revenue do you think tools VS parts make for them?
like Linus have been constant "as RUclipsr you must diversify your income"
here we have company like iFitit that has a good mission that makes sells tools
now let's take yourself... how likely you are to buy both LTT and iFixit tools in the same product category...
I personally use a pinecil v2, I can use a web interface via bluetooth from by phone (not hosted on pinecil) even to update it
Yeah, pinecil is definitely part of the competition, and it is just waaaaay cheaper.
I got a pinecil but the one button interface is obnoxious. I use my BK950 clone far more often.
@@balsalmalberto8086 to be fair, it is just enough to turn it on and off, make small adjustments... it is not mean to be a main soldering iron anyway, and it is just perfect for that. I do agree that other soldering irons are more convenient for continuous work.
I have this one and it rocks! if you have a PD battery bank for usb-c laptops it can work with it and be fully portable
I have a ts80 (nonp) that I loved but the OLED slowly died, so I got a pinecil v2 so I had a solering iron to replace the OLED with on the ts80, and it's a great kit too. direct heater means it handles groundplaces really well.
If it is gentle ribbing . . well . . ribbing received . .
if it is not gentle ribbing . . well . . we have your money.
I’ll take my Pinecil soldering iron any day. It’s about 30 bucks and can heat up in about 10 seconds. Plus it’s ultra portable and it’s just all around amazing. If memory serves, LTT had it in the handy tech under 100 video a few months ago
The bigger thing that got me was the inclusion of the bit that sizes up the precision bits for use in the regular-size screwdriver, that's gold right there, and the precision kit will be stashed alongside the screwdriver because of.
That's pretty standard in every "the whole kit" style, well, kits. Even cheapo chinese-import sets come with them. Super great ones? Not really, but functional.
Its the joys of 1/4inch versus 7mm and 6mm
Oh yes.. I've been on the receiving end of those.
Really? 1/4" is just 6.25 mm. I've never come across 'standard size' bits that were anything other than that.
I've seen many 1/4inch bits stuck in a 7mm socket half rotated
This case it's a 1/8" vs 4mm, not a published standards issue. They messed up and picked the less popular size at first. I've seen several tool companies make the same mistake. Klien comes in 1/8" and General used to make an 1/8" battery powered driver, but changed the size to 4mm when they realized it was the more popular size.
@@gh8447 6.35 mm
I used to use £25 soldering irons.
I remember as a student using those same £25 soldering irons, and they were terrible to try and learn to solder with, because they weren't very well maintained.
So when I became the technician, I maintained the soldering irons, and even though the soldering irons were cheap, I'm sure simply having tips that weren't terrible went a long way to improving the experience for the next generation of students.
And the lecturers knew I was good at soldering, so they'd often have me give a "How to solder" demonstration.
Between the maintained cheap soldering irons, and my tips on how to use them, I'm sure many students had a much better experience than I did as a student.
I really like the pine64 pinecil iron.
Honestly an endgame iron for dirt cheap. Wild how good it is.
Same, I upgraded from the TS100 for the USB-C. I had been using a generic C to barrel cable with built in PD trigger but it would only work with specific PD profiles and chargers. Now with the pinecil I can use any type-c charger as long as it supplies enough wattage, and even if it doesn't it still powers on and shows what's wrong.
yea i have that one. The tips are expensive e though. It's crazy good.
@@unlink1649 Search for T100 tips - i believe its mostly compatible
@@unlink1649You can use any t12 tip, you don't have to use the only the short ones
8:19 waiting for a hammer where the hammer head is the fidget spinner
*handle!
I got spoiled by working as an assembler in an aerospace factory. I love Metcal soldering stations.
I bought one for myself, knew nothing other than that they were what pros used. Holy fuck, the difference between a metcal and everything else is insane.
@@PabloEdvardo it’s like going from driving a breaking down shitbox and then getting to drive a Ferrari. Everything has been inferior since. I will say though that Hako has much better value for money. If I need a full professional solder station at home I’ll be buying a Hako station. I just cannot afford a $1500-$2000 metcal station personally.
honestly after working with the JBC complete soldering station i really wouldn't want to work with anything else. Aerospace research too, guess they treat their employees better lol
I had the same experience as Luke with soldering. I was installing car speakers in a driveway and using a $30 straight-into-the-wall soldering iron. It was Weller brand so I thought it would be okay, but I could absolutely not get it to work. Another time I borrowed a nice Weller soldering station from the '80s/'90s to solder some pins onto a Teensy, and it was like butter. I may not have given the soldering station back...
why does anyone need web interface on a soldering iron?
to turn it on remotely?
You should watch the video. He explains it. It’s stupid but you use the web interface to configure the settings on the iron.
It's a cheaper way to implement controls. It's so that you can use any locally connected device (I presume) to control it rather than requiring iFixit to manufacture a control panel with it.
Btw, soldering irons (that I've dealt with) have power as well as temperature control. It's likely a very simple web interface, but I'd bet it does great for keeping the price down.
The Pinecil is cheaper and has settings built-in
Wait, I need to update my soldering iron first before
expensive soldering irons have screens in the soldering station base, this one has a web panel
I have a TS100 and had a Pinecil V1. The Pinecil died after I used 24V on it after I cut the trace that their wiki said to cut for it to accept 24V. What I like about my TS100 is the ease of use and portability. I can grab one of my 6S batteries, the XT60 cable for the TS100 and the TS100 itself and take them in my pockets. I once went with a cheap pair of headphones I use when I'm outside (if someone snatches them it won't be much of a loss) because the batteries used on those are shit. I grabbed a larger battery that fit in the headphones, desoldered the stock battery, soldered in the new one. While I put the headphones together and paid for the battery (I'm a regular customer at the shop), the iron had more than cooled down to put back in my pocket. Now there's the TS101 and the Pinecil V2 that supposedly supports higher voltages than 20V.
edit: I went and actually looked at the product page and it also has controls on the device, now I kinda want one.
as a mechanic I am incredibly tempted by that soldering iron, but the web controls are not what I want for a soldering iron to throw in my tool bag for an away repair mission. right now I use a butune iron and it's great for getting the job done, but harder to find a wider selection of tips for.
Look into the Pinecil.
idk if it has enough thermal output for an automotive mechanic, but it works with TS100 tips, runs on any USB-C >= 3 Amps, heats up fast, has good temp/idle adjustments, and costs $26. (plus $12 shipping from the official store, so if you want official tips or the translucent shell, buy them at the same time)
Every soldering iron targeted towards hobbyiest market must be comparable with TS-100 and TS-80. No questions asked.
exactly. Pinecil.
@@andymorin9163 Indeed, Pinecil v2 is probably right now the best soldering iron because it has the best support by IronOS plus it has fully open schematics. See some Louis Rossmann videos if you don't understand why schematics part matters.
The ts100 and ts80 aren't even compatible with each other
@@BrianLoughthat's probably why he mentioned it both. It's probably should be compatible with ts80 or ts100
On learning to solder, I learned in ET A school in the Navy and the tools were trash and I was convinced I was very bad at it. When I got out to the fleet and got well maintained equipment and stuff I bought myself soldering became easy. Bad tools make every job much harder.
What is it that one guy said? Skilled tradesman can do an amazing job with shit tools, a beginner will be driven to quit with bad tools; But the best tools won't make an expert out of someone who doesn't know what they are doing.
Thus we get to a truth: Mid-range tools tend to be the best middle ground where the beginner can learn, and won't hate themselves - and an expert will easily make great products, but you don't need to break the bank.
You had well maintained equipment on your ship??? 😂 Just messing, as an IT I loved you ETs
On learning to solder in EM A school (nuke field, so we shared all but the last class with the ETs), and then never using it again in a professional setting, when I did my own stuff at college afterwards/for personal projects, I learned the absolute crap soldering irons we had in tool issue were absolute crap.
@@gwenbd9429 I honestly have no idea what was wrong with the people running the school at Great Lakes but for the tiny increase in costs they could have been sending much better prepared techs out to the fleet.
Hot rock, make steam…
If you're thinking about hammers, talk to Park Tool. Sure, they're a bike tool company, but the HMR-4 is hands down my favorite tool.
I just thought I was gonna take a short glance at these Park Tools... 20 minutes later and I want to buy a bike. Those tools are sexy AF.
As an automotive technician who has to work on control modules and solders electrical connections, I would love a line of actual sledgehammers with the biggest being a "hard reset" or some similar play on words.
Linus final word... Sorry .. How Canadian :lol
iFixit seems to have forgotten that their product concepts aren't exclusive to them. If someone has an idea to create a better product with more expensive materials and higher quality, then there's nothing wrong with that. In the end this is good for consumers.
As much as that is true.....how would you feel if someone you paid to advertise through did that? Think it through the process......
@@ian3580that makes no sense?! What? Is there an expectation that with every business contract comes an implied noncompete? That's absurd.
@@ian3580it’s literally growing the market. Imagine right after LTT kit, ifixit ad with 30% lower price comes on. Not a bad sale.
@@boycefennIt’s like Amazon creating similar Amazon Basics products of other products that companies use their platform for to advertise and handle the logistics of. Is it illegal, no, but certainly in bad taste.
@@ian3580 Like Amazon is doing with Basics? If you have the power and think you can compete you'll do it. Simple as that.
i have a wiha driver and bits in a case thats pretty much the exact same thing. its 20 years old.
To say LTT making a good screwdriver is copying iFixit’s tools is like a baker getting mad at another baker for also making bread products
People say a 15watt iron for PCBs is good, but let me tell you... 25watt was the trick for me. Plus a tip cleaner plus FLUX.
FLUX
FLUX
FLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUXXX
Good name branded leaded 63/37 solder. cheap t12/t15 soldering for me. I NEVER need tip cleaner with proper maintenance tips will last for years. wet sponge >>>>>>> brass sponge.
@@balsalmalberto8086isn't leaded solder dangerous? (Do you have to wear a mask or something?)
@@vad35 don't eat the solder. Lead is a dense metal that's not very eager to evaporate. It's the flux fumes that are not good to breathe, but those are present regardless of solder type you're using.
@@vad35 One danger that's sort-of forgotten, is that if you work in a lab, with lots of soldering, then it's possible to generate very fine solder dust. The larger solder blobs that get generated during soldering are obvious, and normal people aren't going to eat them, but if you work in an area where there's soldering dust, then it can stick to your hands, and if you don't wash them and then eat, you can ingest it.
@@vad35 You should wear a mask and be in a well ventilated place when soldering regardless of lead content. But the main reason for the ban on leaded solder in products is actually to prevent lead from getting into places from e-waste. It's still not a very healthy thing to work with, but you'll be fine if you only get the iron out for the odd repair job.
LTT crowbar hammer?
luke struggling then insta getting it once he used the good one is so relatable lmao
My take is this: The LTT precision driver is for me, an enthusiast regular PC builder and LTT fan for over a decade now. The iFixit sets are great for anyone regardless of who they have subbed on RUclips. I have purchased MANY iFixit kits for myself, friends and family over the years. They are excellent gifts even for non-tinkerers. You never know when you might need an obscure tiny bit to fix something. When I do eventually purchase the LTT driver set, it will be a complement to my tool collection, not a replacement of iFixit products. I imagine that iFixit has smart enough people there to recognize that overlap does not mean replacement. I recommend both iFixit and LTT products to friends and family fairly regularly. Also, that soldering iron looks super sick! I really need to devote more time to learning the craft as I have several small projects on the backburner.
You all need to take it easier on Dan. 6:26 you can tell he cannot leave his desk, so he is liquid shitting into a bottle with a absurdly small neck.
Oh, I didn't realize they made the bits longer for the LTT one. Might have to pick up a bit set at some point and just put my iFixit driver in that case. I frequently end up being unable to use the iFixit one simply because the bits don't go deep enough.
I don't know if they're selling the precision bits separately from the driver,
The LTT bits are made in China, the iFixit bits are made in Germany.
An inventor from NZ once said: "There's nothing made, that can't be improved".
If you make a LTT soldering Iron there better be a stubby version.
the bit sizing thing is due to how much easier it is to buy 4mm hex stock than 3.8whatevermm hex stock
The price is normal for this product. I do work with wireless soldering irons that run in butane. They are like 200 bucks
Yet you can buy a similar soldering iron for $80.
@@Okurka. Can you though? I think you're talking about a normal plug in soldering iron. Yea you can get cheap ones.
But wireless soldering irons are industrial and they come in industrial prices. They're used so you don't trip over the cord and ruin someone's 180000 dollar truck.
@@MegaMech LOL, they're not industrial.
@@Okurka. Look up "weller butane soldering pyropen"
You can call it whatever you want. But 200 bucks has been the standard price for these.
The only argument I'm making is that the notion that 200 bucks for a wireless soldering iron is insane is not true. It's been pretty standard for this type of soldering iron.
I'm all for cheap stuff. It's just this pricing range is not new.
I see this and I raise you my TS100
pinecil is a better value.
@@balsalmalberto8086 24 bucks price difference where i live but pinecil was hard to get even a year ago(only in the last few months the V2 started appearing out of nowhere) but TS100 was readily available
This, with IronOS firmware
Honestly just describing the features was a great ad for the product. I already have the full iFixit tech toolkit bag with everything at my mechanic shop, but every once in a while I've taken it home or something and I need another bit set to keep there, and with those features, even without the LTT branding I'd be ready to buy it.
9:15 Linus and Luke are absolutely going to make a Cole Bar
I'd be surprised of that was not intended to be the subtext
Harbor Freight has a downright 1:1 copy of their screwdriver kit, and they didn't complain and they have acknowledged it. So their claim LTT is copying is a bit weird.
Saying ltt stole ideas for this is like saying Dwalt stole Milwaukee’s idea when the two might be the same tool but they have differences to them. ( idk about quality differences nowadays but they where obvious when I was younger.)
Bros ego was hurt when he saw someone say they want ltt to make a higher quality version of their product hahah.
im an electrician and I want a hammer from LTT
I have a precision screwdriver kit that I bought like 20 years ago that looks and behaves exactly like both the iFixit and LTT sets. This is far from novel. (Not trashing either of them)
I bought a $20 solder kit on amazon to fix my cars dash lights since they burnt out and I had a kit to replace them, works perfectly fine and I never soldered before, took me less than 30 minutes to fix my stuff up.
Once you pulled out your box .. I knew exactly what they meant by copying, that to me looks like a red ifixit kit lmao
It's a rectangular plastic container for a small screwdriver and a bunch of bits. What do you want, a sphere?
@@AliasA1settle down
@@ohokcoolwell it's a fair point. It's a plastic box that holds a bit driver and a bunch of bits. How much variation in the design do you expect to see?
I would actually buy an LTT hammer, I’ve only ever used shitty old ones I have had forever.
didnt even know IFixit does more than screwdrivers ... lol
I really need someone to make an adjustable spanner (wrench) that isn't shit. Where the adjustment doesn't have tons of slack and is super hard to adjust when you've got it round something arms deep under a sink, and where the pincers are much thinner so other pipes aren't getting in the way. You could even make an auto adjust so it will tighten itself until it fits the bolt
...Knipex?
I have several spanners that are just peachy fine for adjustment without a lot of slack. I forget the manufacturer, and can't be arsed to go look. I can tell you they were a bit more expensive than the other options sitting on the shelf, and if you wanted even tighter tolerances you are going to get to a point of "not worth the extra cost".
Automatic is asking for ludicrous complexity - you need some means to fit a bloody motor in the damn thing now, and a power supply. And as for making small pincers? Now you need to go find a material that is durable, and cheap while being strong enough to not just bend and... that's a tall order. There is a reason bigger spanners have chonkier pincers and it's the added force from increased torque needs to be resisted - otherwise, you are going to at some point bend/break your wrench.
The actual solution to the "other pipes getting in the way" is proper bloody plumbing layout that gives the space necessary to work on everything if/when needed. And that means having someone competent with a brain to realize how it all needs to be set up needs to do the work, which tends to cost you more money than the one guy on your team that did plumbing as a kid with their dad and won't completely screw it up but is really more useful as the guy that hauls the necessary material up the stairs so other guys can get the work done because the guy is hopeless when it comes to doing construction of any kind.
Knipex pliers wrench
My iFixit tool kit is one of my favorite purchases of all time. Every time I get to use it, it brings me joy.
Honestly, you might end up having to patent something just to keep someone else from patenting it and charging license fees. Get the patent then make it public.
Patent what exactly??? Neither of these companies invented precision electric screwdrivers
Is that possible - especially if you can prove that your product was out available for sale before the patent application date? I want to say that it's a reason that the patent application would get denied. It's already in the market. I think it's called 'prior art' and the issued patent would have a tough time not being rendered invalid.
@@ku8721 neither is electric
What are you gonna patent? Screwdrivers? Soldering irons?
As part of a patent don't you have to prove that your product is new or innovates far enough away from existing designs to be treated as a completely new product?
So for a screwdriver you would almost certainly have to mess with form factor, bit size, bit attachment and loads of other things to justify it being new
No one in this conversation invented screwdrivers, they are all variants on existing standards
The nice JBC solder stations also help you learn how to solder. They track how much heat is put into the solder joint, so you can muddle about until you find the right heat curve and then practice to replicate that and understand how different materials/pad sizes/ground planes/components react to different heat curves.
It's very, very useful if you want to go anywhere beyond basic hobby electronics.
I can't wait for the LTT Colebar
When you compare the price of the iFixit soldering iron to a professional soldering iron and to something like the TS100 or the pinesil, The features are closer to the latter two but the price is closer to a professional station
With all due respect. The precision set is very, very inspired by the style of the ifixit set. The foam cutout placements, the placement of the magnets. it seems really that ltt just changed enough not to be sued.
Yeah, haha, I looked at what Linus showed and just thought 'oh, he has the same ifixit kit that I do, but orange'. Same magnets, stackable. Doesn't open exactly the same way, but that seemed to be the only thing 😅
I think your last two sentences of this clip put it best
I quite literally have never bought a single iFixit product,. Never ever. And my iFixit screwdriver (friend left it 3 years ago) is still the best God damn thing you can hope to have yourself.
They might have trouble since it's not in your name, but my experience has been their support is excellent if you ever have trouble with the driver or bits. I'm convinced the metal handles will last forever 😂
@@QualityDoggo never gonna catch me calling a tech support. I'm too pridful. too stupid. AND too stupid.
but my GOD these guys can cook.
I'm happy with my SEEKONE desktop unit. Variable temperature settings. Quick change tip. Auto-shutoff..
It's crazy that they want to charge $250 for a portable soldering iron when the TS100 exists
Never used the TS100, is it any good?
ifixit cheaped out on their driver and made a plastic one. I have an old iFixit kit with the aluminum driver, but if I was buying today I'd absolutely be looking for a better driver. Maybe the LTT kit will deliver
EDIT: ifixit sells the metal driver separately now, so if you buy a kit with plastic driver it can be replaced. Point stands that the plastic driver feels cheap
I think it depends on the kit you buy. On their website, some of their kits offer the anodized aluminum driver, and others have the polymer driver, with usually the smaller kits having the polymer driver and larger kits having the aluminum driver.
Hmm... No their driver is still aluminium? They do sell a cheap plastic one but that's not replaced the old metal ones at all
Did you buy a phone screen repair kit or something along those lines? Those are plastic, because they are expected to be used like once. The full sets should be aluminum still.
I have the mako with an aluminum driver, close friend of mine ordered a newer kit and it had a plastic driver
I don’t see that kit on their site anymore, so maybe they came to their senses and kept the aluminum handle on current kits. Complaint still stands that iFixIt was the first to cheapen their own product.
@@just-a-waffle I JUST looked on the website and found their Mako kit, and it's specified as having an aluminum driver. Unless your friend ALSO ordered the Mako kit and got a polymer driver, it's likely he ordered a cheaper kit. Again, they specify what material driver you're getting when you order a kit, so I don't really see it as an issue.
Love the ifixit screw drivers and bits, i would try out their iron if i wasnt happy with my pinecil
Enjoying Linus being salty but trying not to look salty
I don't like speculating, but iFixit has not given an official statement, so what other option do I have but to speculate? To me, it does not sound like Kyle was joking when he said that, and this is not a position I can support. It comes across as salty and makes me personally not want to buy their products.
Saying its too expensive....but you sell your screw driver for around 80 bucks...lol
its 70 and than cheap for a GOOD SD
Brainless take.
Honestly after watching the launch of the ltt screwdriver I went on a deep rabbit hole and had such a higher expectation of what I wanted out of a ratcheting screwdriver as an electrician and contractor. So I'll thank you for that and to be honest I found what fit my needs the best was the Klein 11 in 1 system ratcheting screwdriver. Not having to touch the handle to change bits was a huge jump in saving time and work flow. I tried many, including yours (I still use the ltte at home but it doesn't make it to the job site anymore)
8:50 adam savage is rapidly approaching your location
Everything Is A Hammer.
The most mild and friendly response to potential drama that I've ever seen,love it
Hardcore hobbyist here, my weller protosol butane soldering iron heats up quick and has lasted over a decade as my main tool.
LTT x Secret Labs when?
Linus brings up high price first , while selling a backpack for the same price......
I have a TS101 and it can even handle lead-free solder (90W over USB-C PD). Works just like the iFixit iron except lesser power, but needing to plug the iron into my PC or get that power station to adjust temperature is a dealbreaker for me. And I'm coming from even more midrange stations like the FX-951 and FX-888D. (some of you might consider the FX-951 high end, until you see their entire lineup)
Why would I buy this iron when I could just get a Pinecil?
You don't have to. They're just carrying a product they think some customers will buy, see every other company ever lol
Thanks, I’m aware of how that works, just like you’re aware of how I was referring to the poor value proposition and yet still making the conscious effort to make comments like this.
Main reason I bought the driver was because I could keep all my iFixit precision bits. Support both companies!
IFIXIT gear is good but 15%-20% too expensive because your paying extra for the brand name
yup. though, I bought their Macbook battery. it works great + has a 1yr warranty
You are on an LTT video, who's brand name tax on their products is more like 200% minimum.
LTT just can't--at the moment--become a competitor to IFixit. Ifixit has options for everyone's budget whereas LTT just sells a few tools at quite high of a price. And anyway IFixit sponsors them.
In lieu of getting banned by the bad faith rule, if we take the 3ft rule into effect; at a distance this does look like copy. It took an explanatory statement to show the differences.
Same with the mod mat. At distance you have to explain your specific relationship with the progenitor of the OG mod mat.
Expect these kind of critiques. In perpetuity
By that logic every precision screwdriver with bits is the same product.
@@CanIHasThisName in the PC / electronics repair field. We'd have to be naive to not look at the LTT driver and not say "hey. Just like ifixit". Its our community. Now, show the LTT one to a mechanic and he's gonna say " oh hey. Just like Milwaukee ".
BUT LTT being in this space, they're going to have to deal with comparisons of " copying" their peers.
Cmon.
I mean they have a point with how the lid stacks on the back of the case identically to the ifixit one and that the screwdriver is extremely similar. But I don't think it's a problem, it's literally what happens when you make a precision screwdriver, kinda hard to reinvent the wheel
Colebar hammer! Colebar hammer! Colebar hammer!
My Soldering Iron is something from Radioshack and a Pinecil. My son's is some $15 Parkside I got from the local Lidl grocery store. They all work.
But iFixit will always be an absolute king in this industry. I have their kit and your screwdriver will be on the way sooner or later for my tool bag for work. I want that bit storage for precision work on the jobsite. If they'd made it with bit storage, I'd have it. (pretty sure a dozen commercial/industrial HVAC techs are using your drivers in some flavor or another as it's a good tool)
iFixit tools are mediocre stuff. Most of them seem to be rebranded chinese stuff or slightly altered. There's better tools out there, but most people don't know that or simply don't care. In general tools work, but they could work better, efficiently or be more comfortable.
Ill stick with my 12 dollar iron thanks.
Good for you. I doubt you're doing the intricate repairs that the others can do. Even the absolute best surface mount soldering geniuses I know aren't going to touch anything expensive with your 12 dollar iron.
@@ian3580 I've built drones from scratch, repaired TV's, repaired motherboards, just a matter of replacing the tip.
You wanted a iFixit set with extra features so you made an iFixit set with extra features, but orange.
iFixit may have some good tools, but fuck them for their fake partnerships with companies that never provide parts to repair their devices. Looking at you, HTC! "We provide parts through the manufacturer!" "Parts are out of stock and we don't know when they'll be back in stock."
I know very little about the issue you are describing, but I lean towards thinking the problem is HTC.
HTC partners with ifixit to look good, ifixit believes HTC is negotiating in good faith (as they would not want to take the brand risk knowing it’s all smoke and mirrors), and HTC blames (insert excuse here) for not being able to properly stock parts for ifixit
TBH I wouldn't be suprised if the companies for these partnerships aren't giving parts easily, due to the fact they want people to still buy the newest thing. I would say that if it is such a issue, then they should drop support like they did with Samsung. But I wouldn't be supriised they can't drop it due to a contract or something like that.
Of course if IFixIt are doing on this on purpose, then I would instantly drop buying anything else from IFixIT. But I doubt they are doing "fake partnerships" just becuase it wouldn't make sense for a repair tool and part company that sells expensive OEM parts to just never release them. As I said, I wouldn't be suprised at all if IFixIt partners are purposly screwing with giving parts, since it would stop people from buying a new device (which no company like HTC would want).
The Apple screen repair kits are basically half the cost of buying a new phone, since they come as a kit with the actual display rather than just the front glass
@@smalltime0 Same with Google Pixels. Cost to replace my Google Pixel 6 Pro's screen is around 2-3x the price to just buy a "like new" phone of the same model....
@@smalltime0the screens are laminated, you can’t gust replace the glass anymore that’s why you don’t see a gap between touch panel and display like you used to
Linus: "I have ideas"
Nek minnit, the LTT cole-bar hammer arrives.
Improving a hammer? Is it a ball peen hammer? Straight peen hammer? Welders hammer? Mechanics hammer? Scutch hammer? Bushing hammer?
What I'm saying... Is I think it's going to be incredibly hard to innovate on a hammer. So I am really excited to see what Linus is cooking up for us.
A hammer would be stupid product to make not only for the fact that effectively anything that could be done has been done/is being done, but because WTF does a hammer have to do with PC's or consumer electronics? No point in making things that are fully off brand.
@@curtisbme I'd ask the same about bottles, pet stuff, bidets or towels... But LTT sells these. I think it could be possible to get a hammer that might be useful for working on servers installing rack studs or something, maybe for electricians even. But I do agree with you, it seems like selling a hammer for the sake of having an LTT product in your house. Then again, if the quality actually rivals what lots of shops are selling, and it's a good price, then it could be worth it. I just struggle to see how they're going to innovate with it.
@@curtisbme essentially everything that can be done has been or is being done isn't a good reason not to try, because, yeah, obviously it has/is being done, but not everything will have been done forever, everything decently functional feels complete.
Take intercontinental travel. When ships were made of wood and powered by the wind, someone suggested to their father to build ships out of Metal, his father responded by getting a piece of wood and a piece of metal and throwing them in water, saying "this is why ships will never be made out of metal" the kid then went on to build the Ironclad...
Is that story true? Probably not, it's likely over stated if it is, but, the point is, John Ericson did build the Ironclad, and when that was done, steam boats were built and everyone decided that was the fastest way to cross the ocean.
So, for a while, we just kept building faster ships, and then, we ran out of practical ways to make them faster, at least at the time.
And Simon Newcomb said "it'll take 1 to 10 million years with all the best minds working on the problem to build a heavier than air flying machine" (paraphrased) on October 22nd 1903, December 17th 1903 and the Wright Flyer I took the air.
Now, admittedly, the development from the Wright Flyer I to the first international flight wasn't quite as short being about 16 years. But, the point stands, just 50 years and 36 days after the first intercontinental flight, man landed on the moon.
Everything is the best it ever needs to be, until it's better. I'm not saying Linus is going to be the turning point in hammers, frankly I just wanted to talk about transportation, but even still, the point stands, everything is impossible or millions of years away, until it's done now.
@@GatorInVirtual ITS A FUCKIN' HAMMER. A peice of metal that you use to hit things. You obviously don't do any construction and likely haven't used one if you are aren't aware that there are many variations for many purposes and there is nothing left to be done for this function. Going off about inane things has nothing to do with the basics of a hammer. There is nothing Linus could add to it and it would be off brand to try.
I wasn't interested until he said deeper bits. The handful of time I had to stop using my ifixit on a controller is wild and find a small screw driver, why did I spend $80 on this to use a 40 year old one.
As someone who has been soldering for 272 years. There a 'L' is the word 'soldering'....
Sodering sounds like something involving sheep in Wales 😂
Lots of words have 'L'
walk, half, salmon, should, colonel, just to name a few, but what exactly is your point?
I recently got one of the Miniware TS101 soldering irons. Runs off USB C PD so a good powerbank or you can also just plug a barrel jack into it. I often run it directly off RC lipo batteries.
It wont replace my Hakko 951 any time soon in my workshop. But for something to keep in the car or use for something quick its awesome.
Umm... iFixit aint wrong... the bit carrying case looks STRIKINGLY similar to theirs... nothing else on the market looks like that with foam bit holders. Sure its not patented but its a shady move to make the bit holder case look SOOOOO similar
klein tools precision driver has foam bit holders, although a different shape case. regardless this is a nothing burger
I use Harbor Freight soldering irons. When the tips finally corrode away, I just replace the iron because it’s cheaper than replacement tips. 😂
I have to say, it looks verrrrry similar to the ifixit kit. Not that that is illegal, but i can see the copy statement.
My brother in christ it is a screwdriver with a bit kit
They all look like that
I could buy another Kobalt precision screwdriver and get a kit for it and it'd look really similar, it'd just have less bits.
Only so many ways you can do one type of tool and concept.
There are 8 million different kits like this. Is this one better than the iFixit kit? It very well could be, especially in some minor details but they all look almost exactly the same
You have a brand that is very well known within a community, and then you introduce a competitor that (by nature of being the same thing) looks very similar.
Obviously there will be discourse about copying
Does he mean that Linus is good at offering premium versions of his products? The iFixit Mako screwdriver set is the first time I spent good money on screwdrivers, and I've loved it. Wish I'd gotten it years before.