Wilkerson nails it. He's singing like a canary. Now it's been said what the Tea Baggers/Tea Partiers really are. Its the wingnut brigade. And Cheney - what a piece of work that guy is. Explains why whenever I run across a clip of him I want to punch my screen out.
@audadvnc im with you..excellent inside perspective. fascinating "wag the dog" truth.. im also putting the term "couldnt lead a hungry donkey to a BBQ" im my tool box1
@Livefreerevolution Australia is relatively socialist (mostly the economy is pretty balanced), no fascism, no deathcamps, no government spying 24 hours, no metal detectors in schools looking for guns, walk safe in the streets at night, no being dragged off the street, etc, etc, etc.
@Mojo1982 - there are plenty of government officials like Mr. Wilkerson in Washington. They need responsible adult leadership to do their jobs effectively.
@WhiteOpsUndercover - I disagree, Larry Wilkerson provides an excellent insight on the right wing movement from inside the GOP upper echelon. I find that "7% are nuts" statistic is compelling. I like how he gets worked up over the bank bailouts and the teabaggers' inability to process their conflicting viewpoints.
@boodleboy No, I'm Canadian. But I've read some Noam Chomsky. And he explains very clearly the difference between "libertarianism" as it's understood in American political culture vs. how the term has been understood historically (i.e. in the European context). Basically the two are opposites -- libertarianism in the US means 'small government' with a capitalist economic system, whereas in Europe the term tends to refer to left-anarchism. Sorry if I'm explaining something you know already
@GivettheGAS "the far right is anarchy, and the far left is fascism." The far right is economic liberalism, the far left is collective ownership of productive means. The state-question has no direct connection to that spectrum, thus there are anarchists on the far left (e.g the spanish anarchists) and statists on the far right (e.g. Pinochet). The 2 axes within the political spectrum pazomblez was talking about are 1. social and 2. economic liberty/regulation. This is a very common model.
The Left/Right political paradigm come from the time of the French Revolution. Supporters of the Ancien Regime sat to the right of the assembly. "Innovators" sat on the left, "moderates" gathered in the center. see the Wikipedia entry, "Left-right politics"
@boodleboy well actually, a lot of left-anarchists would dispute the idea of right wing anarchism even being possible (given capitalism's inherent tendency to produce social stratification, as evidenced by pretty much all of the academic literature on the question). but in any case, you are correct. there are right wingers who, for what it's worth, purport to be anarchists. I suppose i should've said 'left-anarchism' and 'right-anarchism' in my description of the 4 possible political camps.
@Livefreerevolution Right, and the main value of left-wing ideologies (whether they be pro-state or anti-state) is equality. Leftists disagree over the best way to achieve equality. Some argue that the state is the best way to do this (through wealth redistribution, etc.) But left-anarchists argue that state power is inherently unequal and creates conditions where power is concentrated in the hands of a few oligarchs. You don't know the first thing about political ideologies as I've said.
Well, if you want to see what I think of Dick Cheney, I did a video. I made 5 "Dick" Cheney sock puppets for the March 20, 2010 -- march on Washington, D.C. And, Sarah Palin I cannot stand. I left C4L when she appeared to take over the TeaParty. Even Rand Paul speaks of her like she's his friend. So, I just stay out of C4L and the TeaParty all together. (as a matter of fact, I made a very dirty Sarah Palin sign and hung w/Code Pink at a TeaParty in Chicago.)
@Livefreerevolution Political ideology is not on only 1 axis. There are 2 axes: one, relating to a person's view of state power, and the other relating to a person's views on economics (whether you're in favour of capitalism or socialism). This leaves us with 4 possible combinations: Statist Right (basically fascism); Statist Left (basically USSR Communism); Anti-statist Right (basically a pure free market with little or no state intervention); and Anti-statist Left (basically anarchism).
@chad071981 You can have right wing tyrants and left wing tyrants. I agree. But they are not the same. Consider a Latin American example: Fidel Castro, and Augusto Pinochet. One was a left-wing socialist dictator. The other was a right wing, capitalist extremist and also a tyrant. But that's not what Livefreerevolution was saying -- his view is that all tyrants are left wing, and that leftism is inherently totalitarian -- an idea which is simply laughable, and not at all accurate.
@pazomblez Are you from the US? Refreshing to hear a reasonable voice here. Heh. I'm not sure why, but during the several discussions i had with americans about anarchism, many of them became very agitated about the notion of "libertarian socialism" or "left wing-anarchists". It always reminds me of religious fundamentalists shouting "BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY!" when you dispute their god, which in this case would be free market radicalism.
@VexZee - consider the definition: sociopathic - Having the characteristics of a sociopath; Unconcerned about the adverse consequences for others of one's actions
@ahoyhoy79 There have been prosperous relatively socialist nations that have been authoritarian and those that have not., like Sweden, Australia, Britain, Switzeerland, Canada and New Zealand
@GivettheGAS They used to be Stalinists, yes I know. And Stalinism can hardly be described as left-wing, except maybe in propaganda. It's not my view I'm expressing here anyway, I'm merely agreeing with people who know far more than I do on the topic. In any case, I study at a fairly well-respected institution. So I think we have a rather low population of clueless PhD's.
@Livefreerevolution They're not leftists. Leftism and statism are two different ideologies. Just because in American political culture the two tend to be cut from the same cloth does not make them equivalents. Statism can be right wing too ... the Nazis were far-right-wing and they were also hardcore statists, for example.
@chad071981 If you go far enough in an anti-democratic way that is...what if there is a widespread consensus among the population that everything should be privatised/nationalised...I would have my own views on that but would not consider it tyrannical.
@GivettheGAS I study these things. I am a student of political science. And they're correct in their usage of the terms. You on the other hand are in fantasy land.
@Livefreerevolution - likes to invent his own language and definitions. I say "Meat" is actually a car - as exemplified by what happens to a raccoon when he meets a car on the road.
@Livefreerevolution I'm sorry, i couldn't find any intelligeble argument in your last comment i could reply to. If we were having a serious discussion i'd recommend you to read some of Proudhon's or Kropotkin's work, as it would clearly show you that 1) left anarchists do exist, and 2) the school of thought behind anarchism was indeed rooted in the early worker movements, so it came out of FAR LEFTISM. But since we're not having a serious discussion, i'll just leave you to your ignorance.
@Livefreerevolution You have a complete lack of understanding basic economic & political terminology. As I and others already explained, the left/right scheme is not in direct attribution to the role of a state within a society. Traditional anarchists are left, because they are in favor of collective property. And they are anarchists because they are in favor of free association, rather than state regulation. Free association requires collective property (which equals "leftist economic policy").
@Livefreerevolution I suppose nothing in the world could change your simplistic world view, however, let me point out that anarchists are found on both ends of the political spectrum, where the "FAR RIGHT" is putting emphasis on economic liberalism, while the "FAR LEFT" anarchists advocate collective ownership of the industry. You might be american, as the idea of "FAR LEFT" anarchists seems so absurd to you, but here in europe, they have a long history of international political activism.
@Livefreerevolution You could hardly make it more obvious that you're a troll, however, just cause it's fun, i'll reply anyway. Leftist/traditional/real anarchists are not in favor of a state, but collective possession, administration and application of production means. And this is to be implemented without a repressive authoritative instance, but based on free association. Collective ownership = "Left". Without a state = anarchy. I can't make it any easier for you, sorry.
@Livefreerevolution There's nothing "left wing" about bailing out the rich. It's called plutocracy and it's an extremely right-wing policy. The left is all about wealth redistribution, yes. BUT TO THE POOR. NOT THE SUPER-RICH. DUH? They take money from the rich and give to the poor, not the opposite. Honestly, do you know anything about politics? Read an introductory text on poli. sci. It would probably clear up a lot of your ridiculous misconceptions about the various political ideologies.
@Livefreerevolution No, you're extremely confused. As I've already tried to explain to you. it's sad really, when you explain to a person exactly why and how they're wrong, and all they can do is insult you. just trying to make you a bit less ignorant...lol.
@GivettheGAS you can be a statist and be right wing. Fascism was extremely right wing. Private business power had a lot of influence in Hitler's regime. Also, you can be an anarchist and be left wing. For instance, Chomsky, Kropotkin, Proudhon, etc. honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not saying that to demean you, I'm serious. You're misinformed.
@Livefreerevolution Kid, I'm a student of political science. I think I know what I'm talking about. ROFL@you saying that I'm indoctrinated. You're the one who is. Projection much?
Man, he really hit the nail on the head. That was the most accurate description of today’s GOP that I’ve ever heard.
That was great. These are the kind of videos that should go viral instead of Taylor swift or whatever else
Erin Bethea
I agree, truly enlightening.
Absolutely it should go VIRAL
Mr. Wilkerson, you've given me a shred of hope. Thank you.
absolutely phenomenal interview. Massive hat tip to wilkerson!
CRIMINALS ,MUST BE TURNED TO LE HAGUE CRIMINAL COURTS ,AND HANGED !
Wilkerson seems to be a very wise man. He has explained the rise of Herr Drumph.
Wow! Wilkerson has balls to tell the truth.
Well done.
8 and a half years ago...
Wilkerson nails it. He's singing like a canary. Now it's been said what the Tea Baggers/Tea Partiers really are. Its the wingnut brigade.
And Cheney - what a piece of work that guy is. Explains why whenever I run across a clip of him I want to punch my screen out.
Me too
@audadvnc im with you..excellent inside perspective. fascinating "wag the dog" truth..
im also putting the term "couldnt lead a hungry donkey to a BBQ" im my tool box1
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
@Bravesfan4500
Yeah, Paul Jay is getting better and better. Good stuff.
really good interview
"That one!" - John McCain
@Livefreerevolution Australia is relatively socialist (mostly the economy is pretty balanced), no fascism, no deathcamps, no government spying 24 hours, no metal detectors in schools looking for guns, walk safe in the streets at night, no being dragged off the street, etc, etc, etc.
@DaHonestAbe If I remember right, Chomsky, who is known to be an anarchist, says neoliberalism is the rightwing extreme of anarchy.
@Mojo1982 - there are plenty of government officials like Mr. Wilkerson in Washington. They need responsible adult leadership to do their jobs effectively.
@Tippersnore Mush? I don't know whether that was a typo or not...
I am not a US resident, how can I donate?
@MichielvanderZee Click the donate button on their page and follow the instructions. Use Paypal or credit cards...if available!
@VexZee
You have an extremely simplistic view of political ideologies.
so who is Real news talking about today....could it be satan. No it is Cheney. Same person.
@WhiteOpsUndercover - I disagree, Larry Wilkerson provides an excellent insight on the right wing movement from inside the GOP upper echelon. I find that "7% are nuts" statistic is compelling. I like how he gets worked up over the bank bailouts and the teabaggers' inability to process their conflicting viewpoints.
11:13 "They don't understand"
'They' don't want to understand.
'They' want to be told what to think.
'They' welcome their fascist overlords!
@boodleboy
No, I'm Canadian. But I've read some Noam Chomsky. And he explains very clearly the difference between "libertarianism" as it's understood in American political culture vs. how the term has been understood historically (i.e. in the European context). Basically the two are opposites -- libertarianism in the US means 'small government' with a capitalist economic system, whereas in Europe the term tends to refer to left-anarchism. Sorry if I'm explaining something you know already
Wow was this guy a Republican?
If they had more guys like this one in the republican party I was going to be a Republican!
@GivettheGAS
"the far right is anarchy, and the far left is fascism."
The far right is economic liberalism, the far left is collective ownership of productive means. The state-question has no direct connection to that spectrum, thus there are anarchists on the far left (e.g the spanish anarchists) and statists on the far right (e.g. Pinochet). The 2 axes within the political spectrum pazomblez was talking about are 1. social and 2. economic liberty/regulation. This is a very common model.
This guy was good
The Left/Right political paradigm come from the time of the French Revolution. Supporters of the Ancien Regime sat to the right of the assembly. "Innovators" sat on the left, "moderates" gathered in the center. see the Wikipedia entry, "Left-right politics"
@boodleboy
well actually, a lot of left-anarchists would dispute the idea of right wing anarchism even being possible (given capitalism's inherent tendency to produce social stratification, as evidenced by pretty much all of the academic literature on the question). but in any case, you are correct. there are right wingers who, for what it's worth, purport to be anarchists.
I suppose i should've said 'left-anarchism' and 'right-anarchism' in my description of the 4 possible political camps.
@Cascadia191 democrats are not far left. They are center right.
@Livefreerevolution
Right, and the main value of left-wing ideologies (whether they be pro-state or anti-state) is equality. Leftists disagree over the best way to achieve equality. Some argue that the state is the best way to do this (through wealth redistribution, etc.) But left-anarchists argue that state power is inherently unequal and creates conditions where power is concentrated in the hands of a few oligarchs.
You don't know the first thing about political ideologies as I've said.
Well, if you want to see what I think of Dick Cheney, I did a video. I made 5 "Dick" Cheney sock puppets for the March 20, 2010 -- march on Washington, D.C.
And, Sarah Palin I cannot stand. I left C4L when she appeared to take over the TeaParty. Even Rand Paul speaks of her like she's his friend. So, I just stay out of C4L and the TeaParty all together. (as a matter of fact, I made a very dirty Sarah Palin sign and hung w/Code Pink at a TeaParty in Chicago.)
@Livefreerevolution
Political ideology is not on only 1 axis. There are 2 axes: one, relating to a person's view of state power, and the other relating to a person's views on economics (whether you're in favour of capitalism or socialism). This leaves us with 4 possible combinations: Statist Right (basically fascism); Statist Left (basically USSR Communism); Anti-statist Right (basically a pure free market with little or no state intervention); and Anti-statist Left (basically anarchism).
@chad071981
You can have right wing tyrants and left wing tyrants. I agree. But they are not the same. Consider a Latin American example: Fidel Castro, and Augusto Pinochet. One was a left-wing socialist dictator. The other was a right wing, capitalist extremist and also a tyrant.
But that's not what Livefreerevolution was saying -- his view is that all tyrants are left wing, and that leftism is inherently totalitarian -- an idea which is simply laughable, and not at all accurate.
@pazomblez
Are you from the US? Refreshing to hear a reasonable voice here. Heh. I'm not sure why, but during the several discussions i had with americans about anarchism, many of them became very agitated about the notion of "libertarian socialism" or "left wing-anarchists". It always reminds me of religious fundamentalists shouting "BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY!" when you dispute their god, which in this case would be free market radicalism.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Dont know if he said that. I don't believe he'd be wrong though.
@VexZee - consider the definition: sociopathic - Having the characteristics of a sociopath; Unconcerned about the adverse consequences for others of one's actions
Even I...have led a hungry mule to a barbecue. And I'm just a pizza guy.
He means Zionists but doesn't say it
THIS IS A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHAT I ALWAYS SAY THAT USA HAS NO PRINCIPALS ONLY INTERESTS.
yeah, notice how they refer to 'American Interests' and not 'America's Interest'.
WITH RESPECT TO YOU, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THEIRE VOTERS.
Donald Trump has actually made Dubya look relatively competent, which is saying a lot!
@ahoyhoy79 There have been prosperous relatively socialist nations that have been authoritarian and those that have not., like Sweden, Australia, Britain, Switzeerland, Canada and New Zealand
@Richardgwm
You point?
@GivettheGAS
They used to be Stalinists, yes I know.
And Stalinism can hardly be described as left-wing, except maybe in propaganda.
It's not my view I'm expressing here anyway, I'm merely agreeing with people who know far more than I do on the topic.
In any case, I study at a fairly well-respected institution. So I think we have a rather low population of clueless PhD's.
@Livefreerevolution
I wonder what the old anarchists from the CNT/FAI would say if you called them "far right".
Excuse me, i mean "FAR RIGHT".
@Livefreerevolution
They're not leftists.
Leftism and statism are two different ideologies.
Just because in American political culture the two tend to be cut from the same cloth does not make them equivalents. Statism can be right wing too ... the Nazis were far-right-wing and they were also hardcore statists, for example.
Cheney is crazy, but so is Obama in a different way.
Most of western europe went through fascism.
@chad071981 If you go far enough in an anti-democratic way that is...what if there is a widespread consensus among the population that everything should be privatised/nationalised...I would have my own views on that but would not consider it tyrannical.
@GivettheGAS
I study these things. I am a student of political science. And they're correct in their usage of the terms.
You on the other hand are in fantasy land.
I always feel the Real News intro music could do with a News Dancer (watch?v=UW9jcKsLSfQ).
@GivettheGAS
Neo-con and far right wing are basically the same thing...if you don't realise this then you have your terms confused.
@Richardgwm
Wow, have you been living under a rock? How is that Democrat super-majority going?
@ahoyhoy79 (one could also count Korea's colonisation by Japan).
@Livefreerevolution - likes to invent his own language and definitions. I say "Meat" is actually a car - as exemplified by what happens to a raccoon when he meets a car on the road.
@Livefreerevolution
I'm sorry, i couldn't find any intelligeble argument in your last comment i could reply to.
If we were having a serious discussion i'd recommend you to read some of Proudhon's or Kropotkin's work, as it would clearly show you that
1) left anarchists do exist, and
2) the school of thought behind anarchism was indeed rooted in the early worker movements, so it came out of FAR LEFTISM.
But since we're not having a serious discussion, i'll just leave you to your ignorance.
@Livefreerevolution
You have a complete lack of understanding basic economic & political terminology. As I and others already explained, the left/right scheme is not in direct attribution to the role of a state within a society. Traditional anarchists are left, because they are in favor of collective property. And they are anarchists because they are in favor of free association, rather than state regulation. Free association requires collective property (which equals "leftist economic policy").
@Livefreerevolution
I suppose nothing in the world could change your simplistic world view, however, let me point out that anarchists are found on both ends of the political spectrum, where the "FAR RIGHT" is putting emphasis on economic liberalism, while the "FAR LEFT" anarchists advocate collective ownership of the industry. You might be american, as the idea of "FAR LEFT" anarchists seems so absurd to you, but here in europe, they have a long history of international political activism.
@Livefreerevolution
You could hardly make it more obvious that you're a troll, however, just cause it's fun, i'll reply anyway. Leftist/traditional/real anarchists are not in favor of a state, but collective possession, administration and application of production means. And this is to be implemented without a repressive authoritative instance, but based on free association. Collective ownership = "Left". Without a state = anarchy. I can't make it any easier for you, sorry.
@Livefreerevolution
There's nothing "left wing" about bailing out the rich. It's called plutocracy and it's an extremely right-wing policy. The left is all about wealth redistribution, yes. BUT TO THE POOR. NOT THE SUPER-RICH. DUH? They take money from the rich and give to the poor, not the opposite.
Honestly, do you know anything about politics?
Read an introductory text on poli. sci. It would probably clear up a lot of your ridiculous misconceptions about the various political ideologies.
How can Wilkerson still call himself a Republican?
@Livefreerevolution
No, you're extremely confused. As I've already tried to explain to you.
it's sad really, when you explain to a person exactly why and how they're wrong, and all they can do is insult you. just trying to make you a bit less ignorant...lol.
@GivettheGAS
you can be a statist and be right wing. Fascism was extremely right wing. Private business power had a lot of influence in Hitler's regime.
Also, you can be an anarchist and be left wing. For instance, Chomsky, Kropotkin, Proudhon, etc.
honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not saying that to demean you, I'm serious. You're misinformed.
@Livefreerevolution
More projection.
Seriously, get some therapy or something. You must have some issues you need to work out.
@Livefreerevolution
Kid, I'm a student of political science. I think I know what I'm talking about.
ROFL@you saying that I'm indoctrinated.
You're the one who is. Projection much?
Tea party....