Horton, MacArthur, and Sproul: Questions and Answers #1
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Michael Horton, John MacArthur, and R.C. Sproul answer questions about the church.
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Questions:
00:38 Will Big Ben be the quarterback for the Steelers this year, and can they win without him?
01:28 How do you see assurance of salvation in light of Calvin saying "all Christians doubt" and view of the ordo salutis?
04:46 Abraham is going to slay his son. How is that a good thing?
10:14 If Samson was never to touch a dead body, how come he killed a thousand men with the jaw bone of a donkey?
12:22 Comment on the concept of seeker-sensitive, who seeks whom in the process of salvation, and how does American contemporary evangelicalism get it right or wrong?
15:57 You mentioned the names of some well-known persons in our society that were born and raised evangelical, fundamentalist homes and now don’t believe in God. What are the reasons this happens and why does it happen so often?
23:43 Why hasn't anything been said about the spiritual formation movement?
28:11 Millions are dying apart from Christ and we must therefore urgently reach them, but doesn’t this conflict with John 6?
31:59 Conservative Bible-teaching churches taking the good from secular movements without compromising the message. How does that work?
39:19 Can God regret and wish?
45:51 If God has a general love for all people, when does God start hating people?
51:26 When is it okay and/or necessary to leave a church?
55:38 How does Matthew 17.20 and John 14.13 fit into prosperity Christianity?
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It makes me sad I didnt come to faith until after RC passed and will never get a chance to hear him preach live. But, I will hear him praise God in Heaven. I cannot wait to bow at the feet of Christ with these great men of God. The ones that are his humble servants.
His audio sermons n teachings are a available
Same here. I have the Ligonier app and have found many of his sermons and also Tim Keller’s sermons, interviews and lessons on RUclips. I was born and raised Presbyterian and graduated from a Presbyterian college, but these great men of God draw me in earnest to their teachings and to a desire for a true relationship with Jesus.
We’ll get to see him again…
Very astute answers
You do have a chance to go to see John MacArthur who i think is one of the last great, knowledgeable Pastor around. I always thought he was and is the best Pastor around.
I’ve watched this several times now and I just can’t stop. “What a gospel we have”
Amen.
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I understand completely what pastor John explained about assurance. My 33 year old (Christian) son ended his life on July 3rd, 2020. I was immediately lifted up to a supernatural place of peace and greater trust in Jesus. I can't explain it. It's just the peace of God that passes all understanding that keeps our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. He assures me in his faithfulness to me. Don't get me wrong we are still grieving deeply. But we are experiencing such precious sweet peace.
I think he could not bare the pain and could not find comfort in the Lord, sometimes we can’t, we pray and pray and we don’t find. Only the almighty knows why
I miss RC. I met him once and he was truly a genuine man and loved what he did. His book “The Holiness of God” had a tremendous impact on my faith, a must read.
Yes I absolutely loved The Holiness of God 💯
I have the audio cd's that I listen to in my car ALOT! Love RC's reverence for our holy sovereign Christ!
I left the church I was going too. For over a year there was two fast songs, two slow songs and a ten or fifteen minute sermon on love and a three line sinners prayer, clap your hands your now in the family of God. There was never a sermon on repentance, correction, conviction, discipline, or even preaching about hell, they drank coffee, listened to some comedian, or watch a movie and eat popcorn and drink coke. It was just a dead message. People came in on their way to hell and left thinking they were going to heaven but their final destination was still hell. The pastor and his wife were very nice people and I really liked them but I couldn't sit under that preaching anymore. I was getting dry spiritually and needed more.
I love them all. They have so challenged my faith. I love their radicalism and "Turn the World Upside Down Nature". Their teachings are hated by the world and many in Religious "Christianity".
+Leroy Montaque (Elijah) you got that right Leroy
When your outside of the Christian religion you need to be a good talker.
they are good teachers
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I was feeling a little down today & this just cheered me right up with hearty laughs, mingled with deep truths ♥️ my brothers in Christ! Love you xxx
Hope you are doing well today..thank you for your love.l dont know you but l love your heart to..😆
John’s testimony about the grace poured on him when his wife was hurt...so comforting!!! YES, tested faith!!
Much respect for these godly men! Biblical Truth Warriors 🙋🏽♀️
Great men indeed....I love these teachers. They have helped me greatly in my christian faith. God bless these men. Halleluyah!
Amen God bless you
These are great men - I for one am glad of their teaching and the challenge that they have brought to the popular Christian world.
If I know these men and their teaching, it follows that I am well aware of the many Godly church fathers.
If you know anything about this group, you will also know their theology and practice is very much derived from much that the Fathers taught.
Even the fathers were still, only men.
In your haste to react you have missed the rather obvious connection between the two groups - they were both groups of men that fought, and still fight for the truth of the Gospel to be brought forth.
The only difference between the current group is that by the grace of God, they have not been through the fires of persecution and or martyrdom, - but you take this as a foolish reason to dismiss their contribution to the truth.
Martyrdom is not a reason to believe anyone - there are muslims who 'martyr' themselves or get martyred on a regular basis.
Truth, is the decider. This is all these men are defending.
Catholic/Romish much..??
No one is good but God
@@christophgouws8311 I agree with you. However I hope you understand that God speaks through the men he has chosen to be mentors and elders in the church.
Their greatness is only because of the GREAT God how holds them. The glory is to our blessed Lord.
I wish everyone from Hillsong and Bethel could here this !
It would be rejected by many. They have itchy ears and want pure prosperity preaching.
Amen
Great study of the word of God! God seeks us and not us seeking God. I thank God for finding me, I was once lost but now I'm found!
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Isa 45: 19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
I am glad you can see God's glory in that. Many twist His Word to say that they sought after God, trying to get some credit for God drawing them. These men are proud and know nothing of God's grace.
May God give you dtrengu to continue walking in this right path.
Truly biblical in every sense!
Praise God for raising up men who honour His word period.
I read about these men in my study of Theology in Bible College but seeing them in action wow I'm so much in learning mode now at 65 👍💖
These conferences are helping me a lot in understanding reformed theology…these doctrine teachings seemed very absent from most churches now,, so glad I’m watching these discussion.
I thank God for these posts by Ligonier Ministries. This was done seven years ago but so many are just hearing the message today and it answers prayers about how can I share the gospel when I'm not persuasive, I don't have the ability or knowledge of these men. Sow the seed. Just share the gospel and then leave it to God. It will grow where it is meant to grow. Just share the good news. God does the rest.
God bless these men of God. Terrific sense of humor, as well.
Love those men of God. They have been such a blessing to me Xx
Same here
I agree! 💜🌷 What a blessing.
God has truly used these men to run the race bringing forth the truth of Jesus the Christ. They are brilliantly gifted. They have what we all could have. GET THE BIBLE DEEP DOWN IN OUR BLOOD AND BRAINS. Paise Him!!!! All the time!!
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"That sounds like an R.C question"
"yea bc i wrote it."
LOLOLOLOLOLOL i couldnt stop laughing
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Congratulations to RC Sproul for entering the glorious presence of the Almighty God!!!
We'll see at the judgement, there'll be a lot of surprises.
@@christophgouws8311 not if we know the Bible, and obey the Gospel of Christ, and know God, and have been saved by Grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. as R.C. did, I dont agree with him baptizing babys but that's not a salvation problem.
So indeed, we will see these men in Heaven
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@@randycadkins No one knows the heart of a man but God. You have no idea if RC is in heaven. Unfortunately most Christians are going be shocked when they get to the judgment.
@@RoseSharon7777 And you couldn't help your Pharisaical self and had to besmirch the reputation who has done more for the glory and understanding of God and His kingdom than you ever will. Well done,you're now a Super Christ-ee!
God is so powerful that even “ Big Ben”, is now a believer and helping to spread the gospel. Never underestimate our God.
What John spoke about and described, was God giving him the peace of God that surpasses all understanding, that grace and peace that God gives in the midst of our most difficult life trials, is so amazing to experience God when you need him most, it’s as peace that only God can give, thank God we have not been left alone, and just as Jesus promised and sends the Holy Spirit to help us.
I just found these wonderful men and I am blessed; their wisdom is a blessing for those who are thirsty. God Bless you all.
my faith has been made stronger thru many huge trials and tribulations....
I sure do love these sermons and sessions that you share! Thank you "Grace to You" and Pastors!
Three of my very favorite contemporary Theologians sitting on the same stage; that to me is the essence of happiness for me! Addressing my thoughts about each of them individually I must begin with Dr. MacArthur. He has to be the most knowledgeable one overall, with RC running a close second. His total recall of Scripture is phenomenal, and how he so easily fits this knowledge so quickly to each and every question is fascinating. I have read, over the past 26 years, all of Dr. MacArthur's Commentaries and they have been a great influence on me. I attempt to watch the bulk of his video sermons. Because I feel so entrenched with his theology, I have purchased numerous "MacArthur Study Bibles" for my family and friends. He is an! unwavering rock of Christianity!
Dr. Sproul seems to possess a more philosophical approach since the background he brings to the table is Theological Philosophy (if that is an accepted definition). The first Doctrinal Christian Book I read after my conversion was "The Holiness of God"; and it has always been foremost in my mind, especially when he describes being 'called' at the midnight hour from his Dorm to the College Chapel! On a personal front, he reveals a more jovial character in his sermons than does MacArthur. Both are absolutely superb in their understanding and proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ! I must admit that I also possess a dozen or so Commentaries by Dr. Sproul and thoroughly enjoy his style. His untimely death was a very difficult time for me!
Dr. Michael Horton is a special stalwart figure for Reformation Theology (not that the other two are not), but the several books I have read by him are more lent to the Reformed Theology teaching even though I certainly recognize that trait in the other two above. Dr. Horton certainly is much younger than both of the above gentlemen, but in his relatively short time on the circuit possesses a wonderful appreciation of the Reformed Faith and brings that out in his lectures/sermons!
Having said all that, I enjoy these three men to the utmost both for their knowledge of the Gospel and their ability to bring it to the pulpit and successfully convey the Gospel message to all who have "ears to hear"!
Blessings to all,
D.O'D. - B.A., Th.M.
You mention R. C. Sproul's death as untimely? Have you told God, He got it wrong?
Carl, an ambassador of Christ. (Think that trumps any of man's titles.)
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I will take your comment as being friendly rather than in the somewhat sharp tone it first impressed upon me. As for the titles, another sharp tone. I worked hard for those degrees...Thank you.
@@carljones8334They marveled that they were ignorant and unlearned men but they could tell that they had been with Jesus. (I think that's in Acts.) I would like people to know me as someone who knows Jesus! I'm with you on the uselessness of titles. Even Paul said "Greet the brethren by name." I hate when people call each other sister or brother at church, or address leaders by their titles. I think the apostles would have cringed at that. Their titles are what they do, it doesn't define who they are. Maybe I take it too far, idk.
Great questions and great answers!! Love these men... Rest in joy r.c!!! What a servent to God!!!
Rest in joy indeed, God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
I've learned over years, that I am undependable, unfaithful, unrighteous. I've learned to rely on His righteousness and his faithfulness. His election gives me surety and daily hope and causes me to see God as bigger and even more lovable
Its good to hear this kind of preaching teaching oh that these programs could be aired on mainstream channels in the u.s. and worldwide. and john MacArthur's. R.c. Sproul's. Sermons. daily... Instead of most of the other needless programs people have no choice...
Your point is well taken. I have learned that my heart will in most cases determine what I consume for entertainment.✝️🙏🏻🩸❤️
Thank You very much for adding the questions to the timeline.
Questions and answers with John McCarther and friends is like sitting down for a four course meal at a Gordon Ramsey restaurant, where you enjoy the food and are left satisfied and with a desire, in future, for more.
Never sat down for a meal in any of Gordon's restaurants, but I do know God's Word is sweeter than honey.
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Oh my goodness. I'm so new around all these Godly Teachers and Men of God. I can't stop listening to John MacArthur, Justin Peters and only downloaded JC Sproul's App an hour ago, not realizing he's with our Lord! I'm happy for him, but just a shock, after just hearing him and his Son today. Well I ordered a Book & CD from his App, so no matter, he's still able to share his insights. Still I'm so blessed to find true teaching from God's Word, for a better understanding while I study the Word through Holy Spirit. ✝️🙏🙏🏾💜
Oops RC Stroll You see what I mean. Don't even have the proper spelling I'm so hours old to finding him. 😊
Rc was so winsome yet intellectual and a believer all in one package. I miss him so
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AND LO I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS,
EVEN TO THE END OF THE AGE AMEN!!
I miss R.C. Sproul very much. R.C, John MacArthur, and Steve Lawson were always wonderful to listen to.
Becoming "un-churched" freed me from your coveted religious systems that teach how to come to God..But through his Grace God comes to me...Which is why Jesus went to the cross, died, and was resurrected to enable believers to have a personal relationship with HIM through the holy spirit and Christ in me🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
That from 12: 45 to 15:00...is some nail on the head preaching..loved it
I love and praise God for these men and how he is using them to bless us with his truth, glory hallelujah praise God!
God never created competition, He never intended human spirit to be pitted against human spirit. Football and its stadiums are a reflection of Rome and its coliseums.
Biblical scripture indicates that during end times good will be seen as evil and evil will be seen as good.
Hallelujah to the Lamb of God
Praise be to our Heavenly Father
What a WONDERFUL man he was. I sure miss him
RIP R C SPROUL.
He is not resting in peace, God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. He is with God, which is far better.
@@carljones8334 Yep 100%
@@carljones8334 Through Christ Jesus and Christ Jesus Alone AMEN!!
I love that we can hear RC . I never met him but would have loved to as his knowledge and wit were soo wonderful.
I know just what you mean! I am so thankful for the men who have opened my understanding of the Word.
I'm so thankful for G-d and the gift of Drs Sproul, MacArthur, and Horton. I absolutely agree with Dr Sproul when he discusses worship and that worship seems to have been focused on the unbeliever. I just finished another Q&A video like this with Dr Sproul and Dr MacArthur, and they touched on the topic of evangelizing and it being weighted towards unbelievers (at that time) and winning souls, which is a part of it, but (my interpretation of their responses) at the cost of feeding His sheep (John 21:17). It was part of a broader discussion about the state of the church and the body of Christ as there were comments about one of the challenges of the church and pastoring being that (in my words) the sheep don't read His Word.
This reminded me of Hebrews 5:12-14 and 1 Corinthians 3:1-3, with the Apostle Paul addressing believers in the body of Christ and how the need in the church was to constantly feed milk with few, if any, progressing to meat in their walk with Christ. Likewise, with worship, it seems like churches today carefully curate worship to reach unbelievers through emotive outreach and vice "feeding His sheep."
I can't help but wonder if part of it is due to the reported decline in church attendance, falling behind other religions numerically speaking, or trying to connect and resonate with and capture the eyes, ears, minds, and hearts of the unbelieving contemporary culture primarily through emotions.
There is no doubt that reaching the lost is an important part of evangelizing and that every believer and follower goes through a progression from being born again to being fed milk and progressing to eating meat. But I can see where churches prioritize and emphasize sermons and worship toward unbelievers and/or (at best) constantly feeding milk to His sheep, and how that impacts pastoring and ministering.
In sum, it places culture above His Word and creates a cultural Christ vice Christ's truth transforming culture. Or, as another one of my favorite pastors, Dr. Voddie Bauchaum, said (apologies if I'm not verbatim), "My Jesus isn't the sissified, long flowing blond hair, and lamb over the shoulder Jesus." His Word is sufficient and perfectly written and Jesus's perfect Word, truth, and message is "G-d-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of G-d[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
Miss RC so much. So very thankful to still have JMac with us.
I'm very fortunate to hear from the likes of these men of God...Here, in India most people are sucked into evangelical doctrine (signs, miracles, healings, etc.) and prosperity/word of faith/NAR preaching doctrine have a vice like grip In most part of the South East Asian countries especially India and Nepal...I have just recently been listening to RC Sproul, MacArthur and many others and just have come to know about the Reformation, Trinity, Solas, penal substitution, etc., and I just blown away as to how accurate and clear the Bible really is...
RC was a brilliant theologian and a great mind but simultaneously he was a regular guy.
Isn't that amazing. He truly was brilliant and completely approachable.
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Thank you all for upholding the truth of Scripture! God Bless!
The Holy Spirit came powerfully upon Samson to allow him his incredible feats. Whether touching a dead body was against his vow or not it was the Holy Spirit which allowed him to do so. He didn't trash his Nazarite vow nearly as much as most think.
Yes sir. I, too, am blessed y these videos! "Glorifying GOD" should be our primary intentions, and these men of GOD inspires me (us) to do just that! All in and through the LORD JESUS, and by HIS HOLY Name.
Thank You, Father for these strong men who teach Your word.
Excellent! And it's great to put the breakdown in the time slots and the topics they talk about 🙂
May God bless them and their ministries!
WHAT A TRIO ,YOU MAKE THE BIBLE INTERESTING AND FUNNY .I REALLY ENJOYED THIS VIDEO.....THANK YOU GENTLEMEN .
I Didn't become reformed til Beloved RC passed. God bless Ligonier Beloved John Girstner. Christ redeemed us his obideint righteousness. The blood of his Cross slain enmity between us and God. The Glorious Spirit of Wisdom Sanctified us in The Truth. Walk in newness of life. Set your soul on things above. JESURUN=uprightness shiloam=grace and peace immutable Gods grace and love.
this is so good !!!
Thank you Lord for John M. Thank you for using him to share your Word.
This is so true. God always has a way out for us even though it may not be the best in our timing and our expectations. The Bible always has the answers we need for our life today for a pandemic or any other hard times.
very helpful thank you guys and have a blessed 1. please have more question and answers
I praise God in hearing the message of God's word from these men of God Ptr John mac Rc sproul andPtrHorton
Very good that you postscript the question being answered.
How in the world could Pastor John do so much without Divine Faith!!
When “bad” things happen to me (e.g., breakdowns of “stuff”) I too start praising God for removing the lesser to make room for the greater.
However, breakdowns in relationships and my own mental health are still being tested and I’m still freaking out, at least temporarily.
But I know 100 💯 for certain that GOD is with me and He’s planning something special and spectacular for me and all I love.
So love is really above ☝️ all, shielding me from everything evil and that’s enough for now. ❤️
Their answers are all crystal clear
You know what eliminates doubt and strengthens faith? Witnessing! What an honor that He uses us to share the gospel. Allowing us to watch the Holy Spirit justify a person right before our eyes. I’ll tell you, when God directs you to a person, and you obediently share, then the person understands and prays with you… you have no “doubts” at all.
Always an honor to listen to men of God !
God has a sense of humour, think about it...we can only know what we know, and in terms of understanding it all, I’m happy to say “I don’t know”. The more I try, the least sense it makes. That’s for God.
God bless you, and keep you.
While we were yet sinners Christ died for us He gives us a lifetime to repent
His salvation through grace is a limited time offer!
10:28 Good Job John, yes always!
Tears, four minutes in! We have such a Beautiful, Awesome GOD; YHWH of Hosts, LORD SABBAOTH, YESHUA/JESUS. Solí DÉO Gloría
Oh this has just made my day!
I honor these men. God bless them!
Children don’t leave the service in our little church until time for the sermon. They sing with the others and take communion if their parents approve.
Dr. RC Sproul is full of Inspiration and energy and I personally thank you and may God bless you Always . “ No Doubt “ assurance from God . JL linden 🎉
This is a wonderful Q and A thank you sir
It is May 2023. I discovered R C in 1971-72 and never let a week go by but I listened to his cassette tapes, began reading his materials...and living in Wisconsin, he then in PA, I never had means to see him live or have opportunity to attend/or join St. Andrews when many years later, late 1990's he was Pastor at the newly built Reformed church in Fl. I felt badly when he died in 2018(?) and even now-me at 79, disabled and many of the fine preachers that were at all the great conferences...that I see, truly almost every day...well, I pray all new men coming to replace all our fine old sound, solid preachers will be as fine as these men.
I miss R C badly...he and Martyn Lloyd-ones were the TWO greatest preachers in 220th century.
I am about to say something that may enrage many. The "Church" is not needed for salvation, but the Body of Christ is. That being said those large beautiful buildings that we all as Christians gather in, are essentially and most especially in the "Churches" of today, are Christian Social Clubs.
Now with that being established.
Docternal Statements are an absolute must for "Churches", and are imbasilic for the Body of Christ. - (If you can wrap your mind around that one, your on the right track in my book)
Church Membership and Membership Classes along with a Membership Oath and Contract, again are an absolute must for "Churches", and are imbasilic for the Body of Christ.
IF the above statement doesnt apply to you or your Church, please dont make your fingers tired with a response. =D
I'm watching this Thanksgiving 2022
God Bless Y'all.
Praise God for these Gentlemen.
There is power in The Word. I see it more everyday with an understanding unfolding, only spiritually discerned. Thank you, Gentlemen all for your insightful comments.
God doesn't make mistakes,all those He chose before the foundation of the earth will be saved. Do your best and don't burden yourself with the things that belong solely to God...
Hasim Hodzic why bother doing my best? If this life is already pre-projected and pre-determined what difference does it make if I do my best or not?
@@lelandro42 Because you're obligated to go to Christ and you do not know God's sovereign will. I'll tell you what the difference is, if you fail to trust in Christ you will go to Hell.
Mountain Fisher that is circular reasoning. Why and by whom am I obligated, God? So I’m obligated to do good by the One who predestined me to hell whether I do good or not? Again, you didn’t answer my question. You basically said “just because.”
@@lelandro42 Don't obey , but you will still answer to God. It isn't circular reasoning on our level, you have a real choice, up to you.
Mountain Fisher if God predestined me to hell then it can’t be me failing, right? You ARE supporting Calvinism true?
I find these men to have inspired me and strengthened my faith They are indeed rightly dividing the Word of Truth. TAKE NOTE, popular TV mega church leaders: you smiling guys have lost your way.
The only thing that could have made this better was if John Lennox was present. Awesome video, thanks for posting.
Such a wonderful video.
Love these men. IV learned so much from them..
Seek ye the Lord while he may be found.
Calvinism is a blunt instrument and ends up unable to rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Its not seeking the benefits of God . Its seeking the Lord.
Love love this guys !!!
Very informative Q&A session
I love how casual RC is
Priceless!
So good!
Ben is now born again!
I think the only reason we should leave a Church, is if the Word of God, is not being preached, from the Pulpit.
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IF YOU CAN BELIEVE,
ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE,
TO HIM WHO BELIEVE,
ALL THINGS ARE ❗
Very Good Panel Discussion!
Good stuff
This was amazing
I love you guys. it's always a rich blessing to here you talk about God's Word and our precious Lord Jesus. 💟
Thus answered so so many difficult questions and concerns I had regarding predestination. I was so CERTAIN I WAS RIGHT, but nope haha.
Thank you for answering what I literally asked God to reveal.
That’ll happen as our journey continues. The moment we think we have God figured out (aka the moment we manage to put God into the little box that we have created for Him), he laughs(lovingly) in our face and throws us a curveball to turn our world upside down and break that box wide open.
Ask me how I know this 😄
I wish I had a friend like R.C.
we Christians are acting in impulse by the Holy Spirit when we encourage others to seek.
Rc sproul so awesome to listen too