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I always told myself “I’ll just charge my Ally it’s not a big deal” dealing with 1 hour runtime on average…let me tell you, boy, today I went out with no charger on me and it was a god send playing on the Ally X multiple times today without having to charge. If you were anything like me and just saying “my current Ally is fine” try selling yours to offset the cost and get the Ally X. It revived my passion for PC gaming handhelds ten fold.
Another massive step tbh. Only improvements I'd personally want are; -120Hz OLED screen. -USB4.2 port for double eGPU bandwidth. -32GB DDR5 RAM Then I'm golden.
As a steam deck owner, I really feel like people underestimate the tomfoolery involved in getting a lot of games to work. Sometimes I waste more time setting a game up rather than playing it. Windows has its own jank, but the better compatibility makes up for it IMO.
Skill issue to simply play games… I guess so but with two kids and a wife, job etc…. I just wanna play games on the go without much fuss. And yea most of the new stuff is fine, because devs. But the stuff from 2012-2017 is where it struggled to most to get going
@@Exodia_Misogynistso I guess I should give up those things and deal with not playing games from that era because someone else is a steam fanboy? lol, what a stupid response. Prob right. Your prob my kid and you don’t even know it
I've only seen you on Nerd Nest but bro you are hilarious! The skits are awesome and you're approachable and light hearted nature are a welcome change of pace. Subbed!
Going from my Ally to the X. I was surprised how nice the X feels over the Ally. I can also get close to 60fps (sometimes 70+fps) average on Cyberpunk 2077 in 720p SteamDeck preset with FSR upscaling it to 1080p. It looks great and runs great. Love it.
These handheld devices are exposing the flaws of Windows as a gaming platform. More games are supported on windows not because it is inherently better, but because it is the most famous OS. I hope this competition brings forth improvements both on Windows and Linux front. I'm happy with my OG Ally for now. I'll wait for 2-3 generations for things to improve significantly.
@@blissurzu7216 which is why I said famous OS. If Microsoft had also supported Vulkan natively in Windows, we might have seen it being used much more I suspect.
I just purchased the ROG Ally Z1 extreme last week on sale. Today I walked back into Best Buy returned it and got an Ally X because it was such an amazing amazing device that I wanted the upgrade.
@@zDToddy At that point you should stop ignoring your problems Sit there and think about how you got yourself sitting in a bus for four hours every day (The actual answer, at least for Steam Deck, is a lower TDP limit, possibly a lower-end game. I assume it's the same for ALLY. One I could easily recommend is Persona 5, it can still look amazing and doesn't need very heavy sacrifices when cranking down the TDP! I guess that goes for most PS3 games, but really stylish stuff hides it especially well)
LOL my GPD Win Mini has equal performance and easily fits in a back pants pocket or a chest pocket of my jackets. This thing is for people with no Life. win mini is for those of us who actually get laid. Yeah. Limp D Ally users get salty
I had Ally Z1E, sold it a few months back due to a lot of the shortcomings that now the Ally X has addressed. I had “upgraded” in the interim to the Deck OLED. The OLED display, tighter feeling controls and ergonomics of the Deck were better, but it lacked the power and game compatibility of the Ally Z1E, so I began to miss my Ally. Sold the Deck OLED and now got the Ally X. I couldn’t be happier with the upgrade. I love the speakers, VRR, tighter joysticks, battery life, 24GB of RAM and Windows. I’m using gamepass and feels so good to be back with the Ally. I would say, if you aren’t too bothered with your current handheld and it plays what you want, wait it out for the next gen handhelds! I just really preferred Windows and wanted a handheld with this kind of battery life and RAM upgrade to make my experience more enjoyable.
As a Steam Deck OLED owner I am picking one up going to put my deck down for a while and give this a fair shake and if I don't like it I can always return it or sell it on marketplace. my son has really gotten into COD lately and wants me to play with him but its just too hot to have two big PCs running in the same room right now
Once you have it, as a Steam Deck Oled owner you are, I'd like to know your experience with the Ally X, I'll be waiting for your experience as I'm thinking on buying both of them but first I'd like to get first the Steam Deck Oled, but I'm wondering if it's worth to buy a Ally X once we have a Steam Deck Oled.....!?
@@sociodoblajesmas9810 So after just over a week of using it straight I really do like it I think the SD is a little more comfortable ( I wear extra large nitrile gloves) but not by too much I agree it’s a matter of learning to hold it without gripping it too hard. The performance is astounding finished Ghost of Tsushima on it act 3 plus DLC getting solid 60fps 1080p medium low settings over 2 hours of gameplay. MW3 100ish fps for over 2 hours and started a replay of mass effect trilogy getting like 3 hours battery. It doesn’t sound like a lot but it’s actually perfect to play on the couch while soft is watching tv after dinner before bed I think if you have a deck or OG Ally this is a tough sell maybe wait till ally 2 (unless you really want the extra battery and slight performance uplift) but if you don’t have one definitely spend the extra cash on this if you can afford it. I hope this helps man
Thanks for the review. I'm thinking about Ally X or a Steam Deck OLED, but your review sold me on the Ally X. The only games I want to play are the new Monster Huner Wilds, Gran Turismo, The Witcher (I have this on PS4. I'm wondering if saved data can be transferred to the Ally X), and maybe a couple of more games.
I do love my OLED Steam Deck - but the Ally X lasts a lot longer away from the wall [or without a separate battery bank] which is nice. I usually have a 10k mAh battery bank on the back of my steam deck giving me much more life but making it much heavier. The Ally X includes the battery and it doesn't feel terribly heavy. That said - the OLED is nice and the convenience of Steam is nice ... but I mostly just use my Ally as a Steam device ha!
@@carlawulff2126it's a very small percentage of people that use them. I've only seen one RUclipsr actually using the track pads for gaming. Since it's not common, it's a sticking point for steamdeck fans
I hooked up an eGPU to the ROG X, and it’s giving me three times the score of the Asus console itself it's crazy! I'm about to throw in a 7800XT soon. I'm having way more fun with the Asus than I ever did with my old desktop PC.
@@Healthy_TokiHdmi sounds cool but fact of the matter is you can just use a USB C to HDMI/Displayport instead, way more modular to simply include an extra 3.1 USB C port instead, and it means the devs dont have to pay HDMI royalties.
I think I may have commented something like this on a previous video, so apologies if I sound like a broken record, but I'd be interested in seeing a non-spec-based comparison of all the major PC handhelds, or better yet, a specs-pros-and-cons VS non-specs-pros-and-cons comparison between all the major PC handhelds Like, I'd bet the Steam Deck is relatively low on the specs side, but probably has one of the highest if not THE highest amount of first-party and third-party support for hardware, software, accessories, community mods/fixes, and so on (aside from the lack of Windows), which might give it the edge if you're not looking to play a bunch of high-requirement games but DO want to do emulation on it or have as much compatibility as possible or whatever; same goes for anything else divorced from the machine itself that might affect user experience that you can think of I guess it would be hard to quantify and rank though... Also, maybe in the same way that you don't need the highest specs ever, just high enough to play the games you want, maybe you don't care that the Steam Deck has more cases available to buy than the Asus ROG Ally, because you only need one good one! Thanks for keeping us updated on these things either way though, I'd like to get one ONE DAY and it's nice to check in on the space every once in a while in the meantime
@@JorgeChavezX I'm genuinely surprised it's THAT bad then! Although I suppose it's actually pretty old now, especially compared to AROGAX which has of course just released
@@JorgeChavezX its not worse in every way. linux is still a good OS for gaming and HDR looks amazing on the steam deck OLED. Also no other PC handheld comes close to the deck when it comes to availability. Refurbished steam decks are cheap and nothing else comes close to price/perforamnce. You can literally pick up a used steam deck for the same price as a base switch
When it comes to software support, with a Windows handheld you get access to the entire Windows catalog. Not to mention, it arguably has much better software support since everyone games on Windows, so if there is a mod that fixes an issue, you'll be able to just use it like any other person gaming on a desktop PC. People complain about Windows on handhelds because of lack of a decent sleep mode and the touch targets are smaller. That's literally what every argument against it ultimately boils down to. Especially now with the Ally X with its absurd (for a handheld PC) battery life.
For call of duty mw3 on handheld with egpu Go into device manager and disable the and graphics then call of duty will let you run full screen and your performance will more than double Just remember to re enable your and driver when your done
Thank you for showing the port and size comparison now the DNA Duo could be compatible even more! I think all of these Windows handheld NEED dual usb c. That's why I love my AyaNeo Next Lite it has 3 2 on top 1 on bottom.
ROG Ally X seems like a great machine. I don't have one in hand, but everything points to a lessons learned handheld. Now, if they can improve the warranty problems and provide better customer support, they did a great job updating the bios on the ROG Ally Z1E and I would like to see that continue.
ASUS impressed me by mailing me a check for my fried micro SD. they paid for me to FedEx my micro SD & got the check like a few days later! made me feel better about the company & that they were willing to be responsible.
The asus rog ally has vrr, which provides a smoother experience over just oled. No one likes screen tearing. Also old heads often dont play the most popular games, so if you arent a old head, stick with a windows handheld. Fornite, ea sports, valorant, cod, will not work on the steamdeck. Sony games require a launcher that doesnt work on linux.
VRR can still introduce judder or micro-stuttering at low FPS due to inconsistent frame times and pacing, even if the average FPS is within the VRR range (e.g., 70-90 FPS) With games that run at 30-50 fps VRR does almost not help at all. And at its designed for FPS (70+ fps) you could just active VSYNC in the games menu anyways with little to no impact. VRR is overrated on Ally
From the sound of the battery life statements you didn't turn off CPU boost? It massively increases battery life since it stops useless watts being sent to the CPU.
Hey Bob, love the content as always! The handheld gaming scene is heating up in 2024, and I’m stuck between the Steam Deck OLED and the regular ASUS ROG Ally. For your next video, could you do one of your awesome comparison videos to help us figure out which one of both is more worthy in 2024? Your reviews are always on point and super fun to watch. Can’t wait to see what you think!
I'm glad all these new gaming handouts are coming out and creating competention amongst each other. I will always choose the Steam Deck with no Windows in sight.
Steam Deck gang. But I may have to get an Ally for windows-only games. ROG releases consoles too often though. I can also download the windows drives for the deck, but disk space....oh you beautiful creature.
Really sad playstation or xbox haven't come out with a handheld yet. Number one thing keeping me from buying one of these is having to purchase my favorite games I ALREADY OWN again just to start all over
I'm still waiting for Legion Go. Nothing compares to that screen. If They had the screen options of the legion, I'd be all over this, but 1080p for $800 is wild in 2024. I will probably still buy one because I can't be helped, but Legion is my daily driver. Rumors say it will have an Oled.
I think it depends on what you want and how you might use the device. The Ally X doesn't have a keyboard or mouse but is more portable. A gaming laptop has a keyboard built in. You can upgrade the RAM and add in an extra SSD. If you think you'll play on a table then a laptop might be better for you. If you think you'll want to play on a sofa or in bed then an Ally X might be better for you.
Any improvement when it comes to running Windows 11 on the X? Like a specific game version of the OS w/o all the worthless bells and whistles that Microsoft loves to stick into Windows?
Just FYI, the ROG Ally is already new to buy for 550. The specked down version is also available, for 350. So 800 is a tough sell honestly for any system like this.
Why is it so hard to find an eGPU enclosure in 2024? There are a ton of handheld PC's coming to the market that could easily increase sales. Maybe they were too far ahead of the game and got stumped.
As someone who is unlikely to ever buy one of these, I appreciate the vids. How about a 3D printed dock that the EGPU slots into with the device? Make it for the Legion too. I’ll probably get a steam deck when my laptop dies.
All I know is I looked at some best buy reviews and people already had dead pixels and ruined screens from the box, I rather a steamdeck just more beefed up the oled on the steamdeck is unreal
The only thing I could complain about the Ally X, that the Legion Go improved is that above all else... why do all these handhelds refuse to put a nice kickstand or a kickstand at all (like the Switch)? Also a X-Input on the face controller off switch should be implemented to turn off the controller's X-input device and not take over the Player 1 if you decide to plug this to a station and play on a bunch of Bluetooth controllers... I don't think based on what I remember on the original Ally you could disable them, but it wouldn't turn them off as a X-input device... the Legion Go had this as a byproduct of FPS mode switch, it turned of the X-Input driver and turned the face controllers to Mouse & Keyboard... quickly solving the hurdle by chance. Hope the Legion Go X or 2 or Pro... learns from all of this, and provide the good changes the Ally X did from the former Ally. Such as 2280 drives, bigger batteries & more RAM for more bandwidth for mostly more stable frametimings and less stutter. If they could also change the screen to landscape 16:9 that would be swell... while still keeping it around an 8" screen even if ends up a bit wider, but to solve the finicky issue of native portrait displays... and if they decide to a little more, change the Z1 Extreme for a 7840U/8840U so we can get standard driver support and not wait months for this OEM slow driver updates... let us get normal & consistently released AMD regular drivers, so I don't have to sideload. On a Legiong Go X/Pro/Super/2 Keep the awesome kickstand, keep the FPS switch, keep the detachable controls, keep the mouse touchpad those thing made my Legion Go preferred system & stand out over the original Ally besides the slightly better battery and slightly bigger screen despite the portrait display headaches I had to deal with and mitigate through software... but do make all these improvements that the Ally X made over the X, the tangible big improvements. More RAM, More Battery & 2280 SSDs.
I hear you on the "but I probably have more play time on my legion go for...whatever reason" Owning a legion go is weird. It is honestly my favorite gaming device that I own, but there's almost no living person I would recommend it to over a steam deck oled or ally x.
Something that would be cool is checking out the OS that turns the ROG Ally X into a steam deck and than compare the two to see witch is the ultimate Steam deck
Can you do like using the ally x as your daily computer using monitor keyboard mouse. Like doing productivity work, watching movies or streaming stuff, as well as gaming on it. Considering to replace my old gaming laptop with this. But not sure if it’s practical enough or not. Thanks wulff
The battery is the biggest QoL upgrade. As a SD OLED owner running Windows and SteamOS I can't justify the price but it's great to see real competition, especially seeing how well Bazzite runs on the X. This might just be the model to get if the price comes down over the next year. The only issue then is these current models will get successors... I'm still not interesting in seeing what the Steam Deck 2 will be.
I’ve seen other videos that the extra battery is different depending on software. But to give you an idea, emulating ps360 in the old ally (25 wats) can barely reach 1 hour. Now is 3. So in some cases there is more than double
@@epsileth because ally x was actually bulid from the orgianl ally they put two bettery life and you can see content warless between the two bettery about the SD card because they said because the system of ally problem not hardware
Until now, I've never heard any reviewer saying the truth about the X. Asus is milking us. They dropped the ball with the non-extreme Z1 (who wants underpowered underdog?) and fucked things up with the normal one (low ram, low battery, no hall effect controls, shitty SD card reader) so, they run to make up for it creating the X. As a buyer of the Z1 extreme model, I feel betrayed by ASUS, launching this "refresh", especially for not having done anything to address the sd reader issue. At the bare minimum they should have offerrd a discount coupon to Ally owners. Not gonna buy anything from them any longer.
With devices like the Steamdeck available, it's going to be very difficult for Nintendo to give people any compelling reasons to get a Switch 2. I get the feeling they're just going to rely even more on exclusive titles and DRM and lawsuits.
Hey I got two USB-C ports on my Steam Deck, and 2 USB-A! All I had to do was strap a hub to the back of my deck with the Dbrand universal mount lol. It sounds stupid, and it looks stupid; especially after I plug in the dongle for my headphones. But its suprisingly comfortable to use.
My PC with a GeForce 2060 just broke down. So I’m probably going to sell that and an older GPU I have laying around and get an Rog Ally X. Should be interesting to use it as a Main/portable Gaming Computer Setup.
Is it thicker? I wonder if handheldDIY could make a bigger backplate to put the upgraded battery on the former Ally if we could buy the battery separately too.
keep in mind steam deck oled has insane pwm flicker and for some people me included it will give u eye strain and headaches i did not know i had this issue till ii got the oled
How do you think future games although for 2 next years will work on Rog Ally X ? I think about games of 2024 like God of War Ragnarok and Assassins creed Shadows and also future games like new tomb raider, the Witcher, mafia, prince of Persia, Far cry etc... ?
![This can play what the Steam Deck CAN'T [Asus ROG Ally]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/crSfiGBPGeo/mqdefault.jpg)
![This can play what the Steam Deck CAN'T [Asus ROG Ally]](/img/tr.png)
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Can u send me one pls I can’t afford
@@ben-jf6ke Same boat as you buddy maybe he could send us both one that would be a dream
@@ben-jf6ke I would send you to find a job or get a better job but with our current time inflation, I also want one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@handymandy7326same boat, not even busting my ass in 3 jobs I can save and spend this much with our modern inflation 😢😢😢😢😢 Screw Bidenomics
@@Exodia_Misogynist I was only joking I have a rig ally z1 extreme and a steam deck switch oled and all them I was just being sarcastic
I always told myself “I’ll just charge my Ally it’s not a big deal” dealing with 1 hour runtime on average…let me tell you, boy, today I went out with no charger on me and it was a god send playing on the Ally X multiple times today without having to charge. If you were anything like me and just saying “my current Ally is fine” try selling yours to offset the cost and get the Ally X. It revived my passion for PC gaming handhelds ten fold.
Feel the exact same way… that extra battery life and being able to use the 2280 ssd type are god sends, and so glad I upgraded
Exactly, Sat on my front porch and played GTA V for like an hour and half and didn't even put a dent in the battery. This device is pretty awesome.
I carry my switch in my pocket
@@akeembenjamin216 h o w
@Despicable_Gamer😂😂😂😂 that shit is heavy+ it doesn't fit in a pocket, incel
Glad you all are walking so I can run when better products become available. This is a step in the right direction.
Another massive step tbh.
Only improvements I'd personally want are;
-120Hz OLED screen.
-USB4.2 port for double eGPU bandwidth.
-32GB DDR5 RAM
Then I'm golden.
@@Patrick-y4d1zOLED with VRR would be a massive price/power hit.
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As a steam deck owner, I really feel like people underestimate the tomfoolery involved in getting a lot of games to work. Sometimes I waste more time setting a game up rather than playing it. Windows has its own jank, but the better compatibility makes up for it IMO.
This is a skill issue though let's be honest. What's the hardest thing you had to do?
Skill issue to simply play games… I guess so but with two kids and a wife, job etc…. I just wanna play games on the go without much fuss. And yea most of the new stuff is fine, because devs. But the stuff from 2012-2017 is where it struggled to most to get going
@@JimScreechie556lmao skill issue. Games on handheld are usually plug and play.
@@Mmmmmk247your problem, who forced you to have a wife and to maintain kids that aren't yours
@@Exodia_Misogynistso I guess I should give up those things and deal with not playing games from that era because someone else is a steam fanboy? lol, what a stupid response.
Prob right. Your prob my kid and you don’t even know it
I've only seen you on Nerd Nest but bro you are hilarious! The skits are awesome and you're approachable and light hearted nature are a welcome change of pace. Subbed!
Going from my Ally to the X. I was surprised how nice the X feels over the Ally.
I can also get close to 60fps (sometimes 70+fps) average on Cyberpunk 2077 in 720p SteamDeck preset with FSR upscaling it to 1080p. It looks great and runs great.
Love it.
Nice to see these PC handhelds get better and better
my man called re4 re2. he might be having a stroke
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two times
Tech guys thinking they are gamers ay 😐🤣
@@Rugratif you think Bob isn’t a gamer you’re dumb lmaoo
Resident Evil too...
These handheld devices are exposing the flaws of Windows as a gaming platform. More games are supported on windows not because it is inherently better, but because it is the most famous OS. I hope this competition brings forth improvements both on Windows and Linux front. I'm happy with my OG Ally for now. I'll wait for 2-3 generations for things to improve significantly.
yes! can't wait for all the changes that will happen to optimize the handheld experience!
directx has been a big success story not just because its famous
Direct X is a Microsoft API built natively into windows. Fame has nothing to do with it.
@@blissurzu7216 which is why I said famous OS. If Microsoft had also supported Vulkan natively in Windows, we might have seen it being used much more I suspect.
@DivjotSingh I forgot about Vulkan. They're open source right? Or was that OpenGL. Can't remember.
Finally someone that shows the ally x with egpu
Ah, yes, my favorite section in Resident Evil 2 at 10:28... Killing those darn Ganados.
I just purchased the ROG Ally Z1 extreme last week on sale. Today I walked back into Best Buy returned it and got an Ally X because it was such an amazing amazing device that I wanted the upgrade.
Congrats.
Honestly, the controls all feel so much better than the original one. One of the reasons i upgraded. That and the battery.
😂 only thing that changed was the analogue sticks and it was easy enough to DIY hall sensor sticks
Y can’t rlly ever use it outside tho right. Can u connect like a sin to it to play without wifi
@@WryJab no the triggers are different
@@WryJab and the d-pad and the buttons
100% everything is much better
It's the commuter king. An hour is all you need for an hour long train ride and charge it at work and then take it on the ride home.
what about a two hour long train ride?
@@zDToddy At that point you should stop ignoring your problems
Sit there and think about how you got yourself sitting in a bus for four hours every day
(The actual answer, at least for Steam Deck, is a lower TDP limit, possibly a lower-end game. I assume it's the same for ALLY. One I could easily recommend is Persona 5, it can still look amazing and doesn't need very heavy sacrifices when cranking down the TDP! I guess that goes for most PS3 games, but really stylish stuff hides it especially well)
LOL my GPD Win Mini has equal performance and easily fits in a back pants pocket or a chest pocket of my jackets.
This thing is for people with no Life. win mini is for those of us who actually get laid. Yeah. Limp D Ally users get salty
@@zDToddy steam deck
@@zDToddyan analogue pocket and an ally?
I had Ally Z1E, sold it a few months back due to a lot of the shortcomings that now the Ally X has addressed. I had “upgraded” in the interim to the Deck OLED. The OLED display, tighter feeling controls and ergonomics of the Deck were better, but it lacked the power and game compatibility of the Ally Z1E, so I began to miss my Ally. Sold the Deck OLED and now got the Ally X. I couldn’t be happier with the upgrade. I love the speakers, VRR, tighter joysticks, battery life, 24GB of RAM and Windows. I’m using gamepass and feels so good to be back with the Ally.
I would say, if you aren’t too bothered with your current handheld and it plays what you want, wait it out for the next gen handhelds! I just really preferred Windows and wanted a handheld with this kind of battery life and RAM upgrade to make my experience more enjoyable.
I’m an IT and I refuse to use anything windows. I hate it so much, windows is the root cause for all of my mental turmoil at work lol
I was waiting the whole day for this review.
King, just as I was searching for reviews of the Ally... timing was perfect
As a Steam Deck OLED owner I am picking one up going to put my deck down for a while and give this a fair shake and if I don't like it I can always return it or sell it on marketplace. my son has really gotten into COD lately and wants me to play with him but its just too hot to have two big PCs running in the same room right now
You know a window AC is cheaper than an ally x and your son would probably appreciate that, just sayin
Once you have it, as a Steam Deck Oled owner you are, I'd like to know your experience with the Ally X, I'll be waiting for your experience as I'm thinking on buying both of them but first I'd like to get first the Steam Deck Oled, but I'm wondering if it's worth to buy a Ally X once we have a Steam Deck Oled.....!?
@@phrozenliquidzAC's suck power 😑
@@sociodoblajesmas9810 So after just over a week of using it straight I really do like it I think the SD is a little more comfortable ( I wear extra large nitrile gloves) but not by too much I agree it’s a matter of learning to hold it without gripping it too hard. The performance is astounding finished Ghost of Tsushima on it act 3 plus DLC getting solid 60fps 1080p medium low settings over 2 hours of gameplay. MW3 100ish fps for over 2 hours and started a replay of mass effect trilogy getting like 3 hours battery. It doesn’t sound like a lot but it’s actually perfect to play on the couch while soft is watching tv after dinner before bed I think if you have a deck or OG Ally this is a tough sell maybe wait till ally 2 (unless you really want the extra battery and slight performance uplift) but if you don’t have one definitely spend the extra cash on this if you can afford it. I hope this helps man
Thanks for the review. I'm thinking about Ally X or a Steam Deck OLED, but your review sold me on the Ally X. The only games I want to play are the new Monster Huner Wilds, Gran Turismo, The Witcher (I have this on PS4. I'm wondering if saved data can be transferred to the Ally X), and maybe a couple of more games.
I do love my OLED Steam Deck - but the Ally X lasts a lot longer away from the wall [or without a separate battery bank] which is nice. I usually have a 10k mAh battery bank on the back of my steam deck giving me much more life but making it much heavier. The Ally X includes the battery and it doesn't feel terribly heavy.
That said - the OLED is nice and the convenience of Steam is nice ... but I mostly just use my Ally as a Steam device ha!
Tbh I’m just waiting for the steam deck 2. Valve hit hard with the steam deck oled and I want those track pads on my next pc handheld
Honest question; what’s so good with trackpads since people prefer steam deck because of it - for what games and controls is it good for
@@carlawulff2126 Every game you need a mouse, like RTS, the bast majority of actual RPG, visual novel...
Steamos is a non started for me. I couldn't imagine buying a device and not being able to play the most popular games out there.
@@carlawulff2126it's a very small percentage of people that use them. I've only seen one RUclipsr actually using the track pads for gaming. Since it's not common, it's a sticking point for steamdeck fans
So you dont Buy any console then?
I hooked up an eGPU to the ROG X, and it’s giving me three times the score of the Asus console itself it's crazy! I'm about to throw in a 7800XT soon. I'm having way more fun with the Asus than I ever did with my old desktop PC.
Rog Ally upgraded the way I play games so I know the Ally X will be peak when I get it.
the thing I want the most for the steam deck is a second usb port
Ports are welcome. I want at least 2 usb c, a full size hdmi, and a headphone jack. That makes these devices a lot more flexible as PCs in the field.
@@Healthy_Toki give me a midi in and midi out while you're at it
@@Healthy_TokiHdmi sounds cool but fact of the matter is you can just use a USB C to HDMI/Displayport instead, way more modular to simply include an extra 3.1 USB C port instead, and it means the devs dont have to pay HDMI royalties.
@@SergioSergio12345USB C compresses HDMI and display port
HDMI and Ethernet, also USB 3.5
I am so proud of you son two ! You know big words like Versatility! #wulffdendad
I think I may have commented something like this on a previous video, so apologies if I sound like a broken record, but I'd be interested in seeing a non-spec-based comparison of all the major PC handhelds, or better yet, a specs-pros-and-cons VS non-specs-pros-and-cons comparison between all the major PC handhelds
Like, I'd bet the Steam Deck is relatively low on the specs side, but probably has one of the highest if not THE highest amount of first-party and third-party support for hardware, software, accessories, community mods/fixes, and so on (aside from the lack of Windows), which might give it the edge if you're not looking to play a bunch of high-requirement games but DO want to do emulation on it or have as much compatibility as possible or whatever; same goes for anything else divorced from the machine itself that might affect user experience that you can think of
I guess it would be hard to quantify and rank though...
Also, maybe in the same way that you don't need the highest specs ever, just high enough to play the games you want, maybe you don't care that the Steam Deck has more cases available to buy than the Asus ROG Ally, because you only need one good one!
Thanks for keeping us updated on these things either way though, I'd like to get one ONE DAY and it's nice to check in on the space every once in a while in the meantime
The steam deck performs like 50% worse than the rog ally and has a far worse screen and operating system, its worse in every way
@@JorgeChavezX I'm genuinely surprised it's THAT bad then! Although I suppose it's actually pretty old now, especially compared to AROGAX which has of course just released
@@JorgeChavezX its not worse in every way. linux is still a good OS for gaming and HDR looks amazing on the steam deck OLED.
Also no other PC handheld comes close to the deck when it comes to availability. Refurbished steam decks are cheap and nothing else comes close to price/perforamnce. You can literally pick up a used steam deck for the same price as a base switch
@@ScrubsWasTaken That's also a good point, and one in which the Steam Deck's age actually helps it
When it comes to software support, with a Windows handheld you get access to the entire Windows catalog. Not to mention, it arguably has much better software support since everyone games on Windows, so if there is a mod that fixes an issue, you'll be able to just use it like any other person gaming on a desktop PC. People complain about Windows on handhelds because of lack of a decent sleep mode and the touch targets are smaller. That's literally what every argument against it ultimately boils down to. Especially now with the Ally X with its absurd (for a handheld PC) battery life.
For call of duty mw3 on handheld with egpu
Go into device manager and disable the and graphics then call of duty will let you run full screen and your performance will more than double
Just remember to re enable your and driver when your done
The one thing I hate about the Ally is the bezels on the screen. It's so close to being perfect
Thank you for showing the port and size comparison now the DNA Duo could be compatible even more! I think all of these Windows handheld NEED dual usb c. That's why I love my AyaNeo Next Lite it has 3 2 on top 1 on bottom.
Dope can't wait to see more content!
ROG Ally X seems like a great machine. I don't have one in hand, but everything points to a lessons learned handheld. Now, if they can improve the warranty problems and provide better customer support, they did a great job updating the bios on the ROG Ally Z1E and I would like to see that continue.
ASUS impressed me by mailing me a check for my fried micro SD. they paid for me to FedEx my micro SD & got the check like a few days later! made me feel better about the company & that they were willing to be responsible.
I felt called out when you mentioned Balatro while I was playing it on my second monitor
Nice shout-out to Paramus, NJ! Random but love it.
he from joisey?
Music from Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, excellent choice 🤌
The asus rog ally has vrr, which provides a smoother experience over just oled. No one likes screen tearing.
Also old heads often dont play the most popular games, so if you arent a old head, stick with a windows handheld. Fornite, ea sports, valorant, cod, will not work on the steamdeck. Sony games require a launcher that doesnt work on linux.
VRR can still introduce judder or micro-stuttering at low FPS due to inconsistent frame times and pacing, even if the average FPS is within the VRR range (e.g., 70-90 FPS)
With games that run at 30-50 fps VRR does almost not help at all. And at its designed for FPS (70+ fps) you could just active VSYNC in the games menu anyways with little to no impact.
VRR is overrated on Ally
@@m4ko288this is the funniest comment I've read in a while. VRR overrated 🤣🤣🤣
I'm young and don't play those games because they suck more D than a Twitter OF TWINK
Vrr is marginally overrated, it's mostly advertising friendly
Ich habe a SD Oled - and Ally Z1E - VRR is such a difference - same Frames - so much better on Ally.
I always love when any content creator randomly uses Splinter Cell music for no reason.
From the sound of the battery life statements you didn't turn off CPU boost? It massively increases battery life since it stops useless watts being sent to the CPU.
Great Stuff, as always!
Now THAT is a true upgrade
I’m glad he brought the screaming back to his ads. It’s needed to keep me watching them.
Hey Bob, love the content as always! The handheld gaming scene is heating up in 2024, and I’m stuck between the Steam Deck OLED and the regular ASUS ROG Ally. For your next video, could you do one of your awesome comparison videos to help us figure out which one of both is more worthy in 2024? Your reviews are always on point and super fun to watch. Can’t wait to see what you think!
I'm glad all these new gaming handouts are coming out and creating competention amongst each other. I will always choose the Steam Deck with no Windows in sight.
Chaos Theory soundtrack at the start took me back!
I remember a time when this channel was mostly Switch content. Man, time goes by so fast.
Steam Deck gang. But I may have to get an Ally for windows-only games. ROG releases consoles too often though. I can also download the windows drives for the deck, but disk space....oh you beautiful creature.
My patience is paying off. I knew this would be the next step in better handheld striking the perfect balance in all areas. YESSS show your stuff Asus
Bob idk how every week your bring it with the ads but I swear you could sell tape n make it halarious to watch!!
Really sad playstation or xbox haven't come out with a handheld yet. Number one thing keeping me from buying one of these is having to purchase my favorite games I ALREADY OWN again just to start all over
I think Sony would do an amazing job w all their experience w the vita!
I'm still waiting for Legion Go. Nothing compares to that screen. If They had the screen options of the legion, I'd be all over this, but 1080p for $800 is wild in 2024. I will probably still buy one because I can't be helped, but Legion is my daily driver. Rumors say it will have an Oled.
being sponsored by best buy is actually a big W
200 second ad is crazy... I hope you got a massive bag along with that screen.
Should i buy the ASUS rog ally x,instead of a gaming laptop that has a rtx 4060?
I think it depends on what you want and how you might use the device.
The Ally X doesn't have a keyboard or mouse but is more portable.
A gaming laptop has a keyboard built in. You can upgrade the RAM and add in an extra SSD.
If you think you'll play on a table then a laptop might be better for you.
If you think you'll want to play on a sofa or in bed then an Ally X might be better for you.
Any improvement when it comes to running Windows 11 on the X?
Like a specific game version of the OS w/o all the worthless bells and whistles that Microsoft loves to stick into Windows?
Could be worse, the Ally X is 1 to 1, dollars to pounds here in the uk. $800 in the US, £800 in the uk! Thats $1024.82 for an ally X in the UK 😭
Hi! Cool review, thanks! Can you tell me what's the name of the folding split keyboard model you have on your desk?
I love that it can play Gamepass games but I'm holding out a bit to see if Microsoft is going to reveal their handheld and maybe the Switch 2
Honestly want to get this mostly to emulate switch, thus pretty muchusing it as a switch 2 😅
Spider crickets! Living in a basement so the struggle is real :)
Crickets and spiders in the basement?? Sounds like a job for SharkDog to scare off! one bark a day scares the doctor away!
It’s the best system I’ve ever used
My rog ally x comming today
Easy to say but for real it's not real
Is the ROG ally x really £230 better than the £570 1tb matt display OLED steam deck?
Just FYI, the ROG Ally is already new to buy for 550.
The specked down version is also available, for 350.
So 800 is a tough sell honestly for any system like this.
Why is it so hard to find an eGPU enclosure in 2024? There are a ton of handheld PC's coming to the market that could easily increase sales. Maybe they were too far ahead of the game and got stumped.
As someone who is unlikely to ever buy one of these, I appreciate the vids. How about a 3D printed dock that the EGPU slots into with the device? Make it for the Legion too. I’ll probably get a steam deck when my laptop dies.
You're a weird kink, Bob. Lol, much love. Thanks for your weekly videos, big Bob!
All I know is I looked at some best buy reviews and people already had dead pixels and ruined screens from the box, I rather a steamdeck just more beefed up the oled on the steamdeck is unreal
Still enjoying my LCD Deck! 4 hours in Skyrim Fallout 4, 3 hours + in RE4 and 6+ hours for emu Deck.
Some other things, faster charging, better speakers, better 360• actuating rear buttons.
Bro no bs, i didnt know there was a oled 4k 240hz. Dang you. Now i have to buy this
The only thing I could complain about the Ally X, that the Legion Go improved is that above all else... why do all these handhelds refuse to put a nice kickstand or a kickstand at all (like the Switch)?
Also a X-Input on the face controller off switch should be implemented to turn off the controller's X-input device and not take over the Player 1 if you decide to plug this to a station and play on a bunch of Bluetooth controllers... I don't think based on what I remember on the original Ally you could disable them, but it wouldn't turn them off as a X-input device... the Legion Go had this as a byproduct of FPS mode switch, it turned of the X-Input driver and turned the face controllers to Mouse & Keyboard... quickly solving the hurdle by chance.
Hope the Legion Go X or 2 or Pro... learns from all of this, and provide the good changes the Ally X did from the former Ally. Such as 2280 drives, bigger batteries & more RAM for more bandwidth for mostly more stable frametimings and less stutter. If they could also change the screen to landscape 16:9 that would be swell... while still keeping it around an 8" screen even if ends up a bit wider, but to solve the finicky issue of native portrait displays... and if they decide to a little more, change the Z1 Extreme for a 7840U/8840U so we can get standard driver support and not wait months for this OEM slow driver updates... let us get normal & consistently released AMD regular drivers, so I don't have to sideload.
On a Legiong Go X/Pro/Super/2 Keep the awesome kickstand, keep the FPS switch, keep the detachable controls, keep the mouse touchpad those thing made my Legion Go preferred system & stand out over the original Ally besides the slightly better battery and slightly bigger screen despite the portrait display headaches I had to deal with and mitigate through software... but do make all these improvements that the Ally X made over the X, the tangible big improvements. More RAM, More Battery & 2280 SSDs.
I hear you on the "but I probably have more play time on my legion go for...whatever reason"
Owning a legion go is weird. It is honestly my favorite gaming device that I own, but there's almost no living person I would recommend it to over a steam deck oled or ally x.
I wouldn't mind if ASUS keep the same features, but adding A USB-A port and a bigger screen would be amazing for the next one, at least for me.
Something that would be cool is checking out the OS that turns the ROG Ally X into a steam deck and than compare the two to see witch is the ultimate Steam deck
"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of Steam OS's power"- Gabe
Can you do like using the ally x as your daily computer using monitor keyboard mouse. Like doing productivity work, watching movies or streaming stuff, as well as gaming on it. Considering to replace my old gaming laptop with this. But not sure if it’s practical enough or not. Thanks wulff
The battery is the biggest QoL upgrade.
As a SD OLED owner running Windows and SteamOS I can't justify the price but it's great to see real competition, especially seeing how well Bazzite runs on the X.
This might just be the model to get if the price comes down over the next year.
The only issue then is these current models will get successors...
I'm still not interesting in seeing what the Steam Deck 2 will be.
brought 2 X's but tbh not worth the upgrade over OG. im seeing minor minor improvements. Best thing is its black.
I hear the Chaos Theory menu music homie.
I’ve seen other videos that the extra battery is different depending on software. But to give you an idea, emulating ps360 in the old ally (25 wats) can barely reach 1 hour. Now is 3. So in some cases there is more than double
The better the performance on these apu chips the more boost we get on our AMD gpus Ive noticed
Good stuff
MicroSD card issue fixed? Rma repair not a nightmare? 🤔
1. Probably
2. Probably not
Let's see but for $800 this thing better do my taxes and change diapers
No
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 proof? Talking about the ally x, not the og ally.
@@epsileth because ally x was actually bulid from the orgianl ally they put two bettery life and you can see content warless between the two bettery about the SD card because they said because the system of ally problem not hardware
Steam deck OLED is my favorite. But I can’t play destiny and COD which are my 2 main games. So I’m
Excited for the ally x
I setup Steam Remote Play and changed the settings on our HTPC/media server so I can leave it on 24/7 and get my Destiny 2 fix whenever needed
@@Collin_J yea. Streaming games doesn’t work for me. I want it installed on the device.
So overheating is what we're going with on the OG Ally?
Does it blend?
Until now, I've never heard any reviewer saying the truth about the X.
Asus is milking us. They dropped the ball with the non-extreme Z1 (who wants underpowered underdog?) and fucked things up with the normal one (low ram, low battery, no hall effect controls, shitty SD card reader) so, they run to make up for it creating the X.
As a buyer of the Z1 extreme model, I feel betrayed by ASUS, launching this "refresh", especially for not having done anything to address the sd reader issue.
At the bare minimum they should have offerrd a discount coupon to Ally owners.
Not gonna buy anything from them any longer.
lol I was looking for this for two months …. I only trust you and ETA prime
With devices like the Steamdeck available, it's going to be very difficult for Nintendo to give people any compelling reasons to get a Switch 2. I get the feeling they're just going to rely even more on exclusive titles and DRM and lawsuits.
Since when did charles white start reviewing consoles
My card reader stop working again I never going to buy from them again I going to wait for steam deck 2 or Xbox handheld
Hey I got two USB-C ports on my Steam Deck, and 2 USB-A! All I had to do was strap a hub to the back of my deck with the Dbrand universal mount lol.
It sounds stupid, and it looks stupid; especially after I plug in the dongle for my headphones. But its suprisingly comfortable to use.
What is a good cheap egpu
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Are you going to try running Bazzite on this?
My PC with a GeForce 2060 just broke down. So I’m probably going to sell that and an older GPU I have laying around and get an Rog Ally X. Should be interesting to use it as a Main/portable Gaming Computer Setup.
Is it thicker? I wonder if handheldDIY could make a bigger backplate to put the upgraded battery on the former Ally if we could buy the battery separately too.
keep in mind steam deck oled has insane pwm flicker and for some people me included it will give u eye strain and headaches i did not know i had this issue till ii got the oled
Mine just came today, really not looking forward to setting it up, hope it's better than the regular Ally
How is it?
Tempting but im waiting for Lenovo legion go 2
What GPU and CPU could you compare with Asus Rog Ally X ? I have i7 9700K & RTX 2080 Super. Is Ally X better ?
No
No
How do you think future games although for 2 next years will work on Rog Ally X ? I think about games of 2024 like God of War Ragnarok and Assassins creed Shadows and also future games like new tomb raider, the Witcher, mafia, prince of Persia, Far cry etc... ?
Why do youtubers act as if you cant put Windows on Steamdeck? It is a once in a lifetime piece of tech! Give it props!
Windows sucks on Deck.
Is that the super nintendo switch Apple gaming ultra?