Tempest Rising Multiplayer Gameplay Revealed - First Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Tempest Rising's developers have released a video showcasing 1v1 gameplay - here are my initial thoughts.
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Overall, it looks Decent, but it's very Dark for some reason It's hard to see stuff Maybe i'm old lol
I don't think you're alone with this at all - it's hard to see units
Could probably increase gamma to see??
14:01 There's an Aerial tab, so probably.
Now here's an unexpected treat!
Amazing video, always nice to hear your insights on upcoming RTS, now all I want is to see you playing it so you can show off more of the new player experience ! 😁
Thank you! Can't wait to get my hands on it.
6:20 That is a very good Anti-Frustration Mechanic right there. Like the PACs from Kane's Wrath or Tiberium Wars you don't have to worry about rebuilding the individual fighters lost so long as the PAC is still alive it'll do it on its own.
5:29 Red Alert and Tiberian Dawn were like that... Good GOD I can already hear the "ACK-knowledged", "Affirmative", and "Agreed" again.
I would love them to add some additional ways of harras, like burning the tempest fields of the other player, or something like that. There is a lot that could be made there! Love the CnC feeling.
Yeah any interaction like that would be great to see.
My dream is that there are tons of RTS mechanics tied into the tempest fields. For example that if you let them grow you will accumulate much more in the long run than if you harvest them quickly. Meaning you have a clear way to design rush strategies or turtle/macro strategies. With counter play like harassing the fields or going on the map and harvesting already grown. So many possibilities!
Dude if it's anything like tiberium, nah you can't burn it down
Or can you😊
9:50 One of the tanks earlier crushed someone during the failed attack on the Narrator's base.
8:39 I think going with a brighter color pallet for the factions would be a good idea, or at least add more glowing bits that glow the player's color. Like how in Command and Conquer 3 the Scrin units do. Maybe have more gray and less black too. Go more like GDI's color pallet with light grays for the GDF (Oh hey, another Command and Conquer influence) to better differentiate them from things like the terrain.
Well they ain't trying to make a carbon copy bro, color wise black seems to suit the game.
15:44 Why is there an Eye of Sauron that functions like an Obelisk of Light? Oh wait, it's the Command and Conquer influence again.
3:34 Counter point, this game seems to be more styled after Command and Conquer and Crates in Command and Conquer acted like that but came in a wide variety from Money to Veterancy to even Healing.
Variety for the crates is a good idea for sure, but that isn't a counter argument to the interaction being binary. First to touch it gets it - nothing you can do about it.
@@NakamuraRTS The counter is that this game seems to be styled after Command and Conquer and the crates in it could very well act as such while the ones in Halo Wars were money (And in Halo Wars 2 were also power) only and having the units pick them up over time instead of instantly gaining money makes sense given that the crates serve the purpose of being stationary, one time use ways to gain money. The crates in Command and Conquer, and games styled after Command and Conquer, are more like Lootboxes, they could give you money, they could heal you, or they can give you Veterancy for your units, the crates also respawn randomly meaning they're more like the game randomly throwing a bonus into the match that rewards the player that can get to it first as opposed to being preset in Developer determined locations like the Resource Crates of Halo Wars.
16:56 It seems closer to a Siege Tank than the Kodiak...
Visually yes, but not in terms of gameplay. You can definitely dodge those shots.
@@NakamuraRTS Yeah, true.
11:23 Why did that Unit Ready notification sound like the guy in a Tib Wars Mammoth Tank said it?
18:59 My guess is the Narrator had to play like an Easy AI so they can get some footage.
looks goregeous
7:51 I just noticed the Engineer, he's going to attempt to capture a building, isn't he?
2:02 Oh hey, it's the RA3 Soviet style of building too.
In AoE, SC2 and WC3 units skip lines when clicked with quick succession.
Also flames look juicy!
So basically its C&C without EA with modern graphics, UI etc.
3:37 To me it feels like one of the Command and Conquer games, we've got Silos, Power, and Money to worry about, however what's that other icon next to the money? We also have a Population Cap, which is inline with Supreme Commander.
the GDF have a unique resource called Intel. We'll talk about it more in the near future
@@Waywardstrategist Ah, so we'll have to wait to see what that's for then.
6:39 Hang on, are those WALLS AND GATES!? I see Sandbags, Wire Fences, and some sort of metal or concrete wall but is that actually a gate? I haven't seen buildable Walls and Gates in an RTS outside of Mods or Age of Empires in YEARS!
6:44 Going frame by frame yeah, that's a gate!
Command and Conquer, which is clearly the inspiration here, had both walls and gates and also towers.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn Until Generals and Tiberium Wars, Red Alert 3 meanwhile had walls but no gates.
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Most CnC games had walls, but I can really think of only Tib Sun having the gates as well - I hated to use them tho, they have had a really annoying sound.
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7:16 I wonder who they got for the music, because I think Frank would approve of it.
Consoles need this rts like in the 90s wanna bring rts back make it multiplatform like age of empires or halo wars
One can hope!
I would love to see other two factions' gameplays, too.
There's only 3 factions, but yes I'd like to see the third one!
4:02 Interesting take on resource gathering, feels a bit like the Pre-Red Alert 3 type from Command and Conquer but it also adds a bit more depth to it.
I'm interested to seeing how it works exactly. This video doesn't really showcase it so I might be totally off about what I said.
@@NakamuraRTS I honestly hope they do a showcase of it.
14:12 Honestly, yeah.
6:49 For your question, yes, just like Command and Conquer. Hopefully there's no "Silos needed" every five minutes when you don't have one.
5:50 Oh great, it feels even more like Command and Conquer now. 5:57 And that is another sign of the influence of Command and Conquer in this game, that "Battle Control Offline" is one word off from being a Command and Conquer quote.
The CnC influence is no secret at all, they straight up said before that it is a spiritual successor.
15:19 Not the best design but I assume they did this to prevent screen clutter or to cut down on what amount of space the UI takes up.
19:21 I think some of the units aren't that finished on the AI side of things, like Auto Attacking may not be implemented for some units and the pathfinding seems a bit wonky or janky at times...
Shut up and take my money!
14:38 It probably says it on the Tooltips in the construction menu. Also, the menus look like they're tiered, look at the "Defenses" tab and how there's that line that goes down to the "1" and then down to where you select what to build? I think that's done like that for a reason and we may also have some Supreme Commander or Total Annihilation influences as well.
Looks promising. Don't like the resource crates either. The way they are implemented forces you to just split your starting soldiers into 5 control groups and just pick up as many of them as you can, and that's not how I want to start each and every match.
Also insta capture engineers are a bad idea, they are always broken and Westwood realised that 20 years ago, no need to repeat the same mistakes.
Very good point. This is exactly why Halo Wars 2 offered a very small starting unit count of 2-3 (except for YapYap).
I agree that this also needs to be some kind of hacking process.
@Nakamura RTS Even that's not ideal. Even if we start with 2 units, and the crates take like 10 seconds to pick up, it still restricts players from choosing a higher tech power spike build. Imho a mechanic like that only makes sense if you're trying to punish extreme turtling, but this doesn't look like the kind of RTS where you can turtle anyway, so I struggle to think of the positives.
@@Carnagath82 I agree that overdone map control rewards can hurt tech builds, but it's really hard to say if it is overdone without having played a significant number of games.
I do think it's important to reward map control a bit and encourage people to leave their base to make a more engaging game, but tech units also need to hit hard to allow them to hit back against map grab focused builds.
7:46 Do these work like Yuri's Slave Miners?
The other faction has mobile refineries
My biggest complaint was the map they played on. It seemed very constrained and cluttered. Also the starting locations looked very "staged" and not fair at all for a 1v1 multiplayer match. I can only hope the real multiplayer maps will be set up more fair/symmetrical
Quite so. That was definitely not symmertrical.
you'll be happy to know that we have a variety of map designs, many of which are symmetrical
@@Waywardstrategist That is great to hear. Thank you for replying!
units should be able to fire while moving. come one rts devs, we are in 2023
At least some of them definitely should! It can be treated as a specialty where appropriate I guess.
@@NakamuraRTS stronghold crusader had moving and shooting horse archers in 2002
the tanks can fire while driving. like in old CnC games
Visuals are good but nothing new or different than any other rts as before.
I am now really worried this one will die on release like all other recent ones unless they bring something really good and unique outside of pretty graphics.
Crossfire: Legion sure is the best example of it.
I'd argue CnC fans are hungry enough to flock to this in huge numbers.
@@NakamuraRTS I know I am...
i actually think this game will be a blast BECAUSE it's more down to earth and takes old features seriously that made old rts great instead of trying to create super innovative mechanics while neglecting good old core mechanics of its genre
Ble ugly this game, where is gold generals 2 I'm upset that they canceled it