How to be a SPY in Finland

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @teeerock1903
    @teeerock1903 Год назад +26

    "They wear backpacks". Russians probably learned that during the war. I've heard stories of close combat in the dark: "no backpack, stab with puukko."

  • @maastomunkki
    @maastomunkki Год назад +43

    Full marks for the author of this guide. They even mention our tradition of orderly queuing. A telltale feature of a genuine finn!

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +8

      Full Markkas 👍🏻

    • @maastomunkki
      @maastomunkki Год назад

      @@aaronstavern Absolutely! No pennis needed here!

  • @tableandchairs9699
    @tableandchairs9699 Год назад +52

    I've said this before but I'll say it again, Thank you for staying real and making awesome videos about my country 🤟🏻

  • @Tomi-oe5mz
    @Tomi-oe5mz Год назад +39

    The easiest way to spot a Russian: make them count from 1 ; it's impossible for them to pronounce "yksi". It will sound "juksi" when they try.
    I have tested this with few Russian speakers and it seems to be true lol.

    • @pavelvershinin2371
      @pavelvershinin2371 Год назад +7

      thnks, will ask my Finnish friends (how does it sound)!

    • @JohnDoe-hs7ml
      @JohnDoe-hs7ml Год назад +3

      I have done the same test and it is valid. 🤘Edit: Works also other natiolaties...

    • @Tuhajuhan
      @Tuhajuhan Год назад +3

      Familiar thing. In Estonia the imported communist leaders were called Yestonians because they had Estonian names, but had lived in Russia since their youth and their public speeches were like listening to a parody trying to blunder through the Estonian language.

  • @TheNismo777
    @TheNismo777 Год назад +28

    These used to be spotted pretty often, I've heard stories how they tried too much and simply made small mistakes that u notice easily.

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +17

      I've been down a rabbit hole of espionage in Finland, I think I'll make a few more on the subject

    • @TheNismo777
      @TheNismo777 Год назад +5

      @@aaronstavern great idea

  • @scanpolar
    @scanpolar Год назад +15

    My father worked in Kemi Company selling timber all over the world . We the family members needed to respect the table manners and use fork and knife when eating .
    Once when having a dinner in Hotel Merihovi Kemi the American captain surprised him totally he told me . The menu consisted of reindeer , and rare forest mushroom and of course starting with salmon .
    The American captain asked for ketchup . They didn't have .

  • @larrywave
    @larrywave Год назад +15

    I cant wait Tiitisen lista is declassified

  • @kraatarin8226
    @kraatarin8226 Год назад +19

    8:18 "You should walk slowly, waddling a little"
    That's a funny coincidence, my russian friends have told me that they always recognize finnish tourists in Russia (back when there was tourism when times were different), because finns waddle more when walking.

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +15

      It's gotta be something to do with walking on ice right? Loads of Finns tell me to slightly waddle when walking on ice during winter!

    • @matkahenkilo8554
      @matkahenkilo8554 Год назад +4

      You could be onto something there. You do get a better grip if you transfer your weight on the foot that is on the ice 🤔

    • @JohnDoe-hs7ml
      @JohnDoe-hs7ml Год назад +3

      How to recognize ruski turist at any ski resort? No beanie or helmet, no gloves, wearing purple overalls and no skills going 80km/h.

    • @tonikaihola5408
      @tonikaihola5408 Год назад +3

      Yes, do not walk upright and striding on heels, that’s a great way to slip on ice.

  • @mikkohakkinen3359
    @mikkohakkinen3359 Год назад +19

    This also works as a good guide on how to be an old timey Finnish gentleman! 😁

  • @mashiwashi6554
    @mashiwashi6554 Год назад +17

    Funny thing about this is that even if you do all this if you make one tiny mistake with the language Finnish people will immediately know you are not natively Finnish

    • @mikkorenvall428
      @mikkorenvall428 Год назад +3

      Sure. And when abroad there are those tiny, almost unseen manners and things where you can detect a finn... even if they are not speaking/saying anything.

  • @are3287
    @are3287 Год назад +2

    Im a little curious about the waddling now

  • @VtheWizard
    @VtheWizard Год назад +18

    As a finn i gotta say i would be fooled by anyone capable of doing everything in this manual as long as they didn't look and/or sound too russian.

    • @pavelvershinin2371
      @pavelvershinin2371 Год назад

      ok about sound, but I'm wondering how to look too russian?

    • @mikeh2772
      @mikeh2772 Год назад +3

      @@pavelvershinin2371 Russians have that distinctive look, they stand out as different in a crowd.

    • @sempressfi
      @sempressfi Год назад +1

      @@mikeh2772 especially if they're from Moscow or other big cities and then even more so if they are upper middle class or richer

    • @Wezqu
      @Wezqu Год назад +3

      @@pavelvershinin2371 Ethnicities do have certain characteristics lumped into them. In Finland most people have brown/blonde hair when usually Russians have dark or black hair. Russians are more slavic in their appearance when finns tend to look more scandinavian. Its usually easy to spot person who is russian or has russian roots as they do differ quite significantly from normal finnish look. Facial structures usually are different russians tend to have fuller lips, sleeker face and minorly darker skin color. Of course these are not universal and there is tons of people who would not fit that description and is not meant to be taken offensively.

    • @herramirtsaaja9032
      @herramirtsaaja9032 Год назад

      ​@@Wezqu its stupid to group russians into one group and say they look something like this, russians arent that different people from the finns, the finns just like russians are same people who came from the south with the moving ice and settled these areas of northern and eastern europe
      Later on came also migration from the urals and uralic languages and cultures dominated russia and finland
      Then even more later came slavic influence from the south
      But the people dont migrate that much, russians and finns especially north western russians are very close if you look at genetics

  • @Wezqu
    @Wezqu Год назад +9

    The funny thing about the eating part is that its totally correct even in modern day. Only thing they did not mention was that placing the fork and the knife on the plate just randomly does not mean we are done eating. They need to be placed in the five a clock position on the plate in front of you. That is the sign for the waiter that they can take the plate away without asking if you are done otherwise they will ask if you are done eating.

    • @leisti
      @leisti Год назад

      I'm a Finn in my fifties, and I've never heard of the five-oclock rule. Only that placing fork and knife together means you're done eating.

    • @SamuelLevant
      @SamuelLevant Год назад +3

      @@leisti we were taught the five-o-clock rule in school in the 1990s.

  • @Kyosti5000
    @Kyosti5000 Год назад +7

    For the most part that's pretty much spot on.

  • @TurmoilDot
    @TurmoilDot Год назад +11

    Thank you for this special video! So we have had a continuing danger of being spyed, until USSR came to its end 1991 (thank you pres. Gorbatšov). I think most Finnish people had unconcious sense of danger before that, but we have to be careful even today. Can't never know... 🤔 Still, many Russians are very warm and polite persons. My father was born and his forefathers with their families lived in the Finnish area of Karelia until 1944.

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +1

      Thank you for the awesome comment! Its definitely a subject I want to do more videos on, it's so interesting!

  • @mikkoolavijarvinen3653
    @mikkoolavijarvinen3653 Год назад +6

    The article in Seura magazine points out that some of them are a little strange, like they backpack thing: a man with backpack in the Helsinki market would have seemed... at least very rural.

    • @SamuelLevant
      @SamuelLevant Год назад +1

      eh, plenty of university students wear backpacks in Helsinki

  • @ryanomalley3705
    @ryanomalley3705 Год назад +2

    Commenting because it's your most recent video. Small world, I heard you were from river valley! Love from Glen Ellan, Swords hahaha

  • @tonikaihola5408
    @tonikaihola5408 Год назад +5

    I would be a terrible spy, only things I would do are:
    Queue
    Place silverware at 5 o’clock position when done
    Maybe the waddling (in the winter when slippery)😅

  • @Makapaa
    @Makapaa Год назад +2

    "Da, I'm a Good Zpy, see, how I weer rain-jacket with ze hat and do not button my pokets? Iz make me Good Zpy!"

  • @Jaeger958
    @Jaeger958 Год назад +6

    I remember reading about a similiar manual made for the CIA. Notes on how to talk to people customs and so on.

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +1

      I vaguely remember something like this aswell!

    • @Jaeger958
      @Jaeger958 Год назад +1

      @@aaronstavern Found an article by Suomen Kuvalehti it was instructions on how to recruit spies in scandinavia. There is even one joke in it. What happens when a boat full of scandinavians get shipwrecked on a deserted island? The danes start a group to think what to do, the norwegians start to build a boat, the finns get wasted and the swedes wait for someone to introduce them.

  • @FlyTyer1948
    @FlyTyer1948 Год назад +7

    Ability to tolerate limitless cups of coffee?

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад

      That would be giving Finns too much credit through their eyes!

    • @FlyTyer1948
      @FlyTyer1948 Год назад

      @@aaronstavern Credit through their eyes??? ☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️👁️

  • @viljanov
    @viljanov Год назад +3

    No amount of training, not even 10,000 hours of intense practice can ever make a foreigner speak Finnish like a native.

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад

      Well that's just dumb and incorrect

    • @SamuelLevant
      @SamuelLevant Год назад +1

      @@aaronstavern I dunno, man, had an American professor of linguistics in Helsinki Uni and while his Finnish was like 98% perfect, it was obvious he wasn't native. His grammar was perfect, of course, but the pronunciation simply gives it away even after he'd lived here for over 20 years.

    • @mv_5878
      @mv_5878 Год назад

      ​@@aaronstavern No mate, I'm serious. There are case inflections that are illogical but correct and impossible to memorize. Mostly it's the pronouncing though. Brits, French and Russians have heard every pidgin variation of their own language, but Finnish is spoken only by those who are born there. That's why any deviation stands out immediately.

  • @pahis1248
    @pahis1248 Год назад +1

    Must look this one again . TY

  • @Pyhantaakka
    @Pyhantaakka Год назад +1

    Workers in cafeteria are more dressed up than modern day meps.

  • @Redfizh
    @Redfizh Год назад +2

    So which hand should we use when eating a sausage with mustard straight from the fork?

    • @mikeh2772
      @mikeh2772 Год назад +3

      Right hand. The left is holding on to your favorite beer. Well, this is jos oot oikeakätinen.

    • @JohnDoe-hs7ml
      @JohnDoe-hs7ml Год назад +1

      Right hand and no fork. If you cant hold it in your fingers means its too hot eat. Sausage is always eaten with mustard and ketchup mix. Except in the bush when you only have mustard.

    • @Redfizh
      @Redfizh Год назад +4

      @@JohnDoe-hs7ml Ketchup on sausage is the most malevolent sin. How dare you disrespect our ancient manners with such madness!

    • @moversti92
      @moversti92 Год назад +1

      @@Redfizhagree, ketchup sausage is only for children

    • @MS-Fin1917
      @MS-Fin1917 Год назад

      @@JohnDoe-hs7ml Here we have a prime example of American spy. While sometimes difficult to spot, they are generally quite harmless.

  • @paskahalvaus697
    @paskahalvaus697 Год назад

    Really cool video. Could you give a link to where you found this? I'm having a hard time with google.

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +2

      www.rferl.org/a/a-guide-for-acting-finnish-for-soviet-spies-of-the-cold-war/30827524.html

  • @aguafria9565
    @aguafria9565 Год назад +1

    Noticed that it's no longer customary to walk on the right side of the footpath anymore?

  • @Brendan7838
    @Brendan7838 Год назад +1

    Another great video

  • @jm-holm
    @jm-holm Год назад +3

    Well... I'd be a terrible Soviet spy in Finland.

  • @TurmoilDot
    @TurmoilDot Год назад +1

    Kiitos! 🤫

  • @supremegreaser2399
    @supremegreaser2399 Год назад +1

    Finnish drip has always been a thing.

  • @Saturinus
    @Saturinus Год назад +1

    OMG I don't pass for a Finn apparently. 😅

  • @MsNamutenya
    @MsNamutenya Год назад

    Funny video! Thanks! Makes me ask who is spying in Ireland and how?

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад +1

      I'm looking into one such event that happened in Ireland during WW2, a few German spies landed in Ireland a few days later they realised they were not in the country they were intended to land in (britian was the actual country they had to go to 🤣) funny story 😄

    • @SamuelLevant
      @SamuelLevant Год назад

      I'd be shocked if the English didn't have their glowbois keeping an eye on the IRA, Sinn Féin etc.

  • @JustinianG
    @JustinianG Год назад +1

    Hey, can you do a collaboration with me?

    • @aaronstavern
      @aaronstavern  Год назад

      Let's talk about it! Want to email me? irishinfinland@gmail.com

  • @Jaeger958
    @Jaeger958 Год назад +2

    So you are a spy? I Knew it!