Inside a 60 LED "rechargeable" camping light.
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- I bought this while I was looking for the different styles of inflatable solar camping lights. It's what you might expect for the price.
If using an 18650 lithium cell then make sure it's either protected or use a compatible charger with the output capped to 4.2V.
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omg the zooming in this video was 10/10 with the perfect magnifying glass angle... beautiful!
I like the multiple leds to get the light output high enough, many leds at lower current is more reliable.
Like a monster version of the popular tube torch with 3 aaa's in a plastic holder.
Hello Clive. Since I watch yor videos you've inspired me to loose the fear of opening and tinkering with commercial devices. I just repaired a USB camera which I use in my robot and it feels so good :-)
Wow, I bought something that looked absolutely identical to this from DAISO in Korea about three years ago. The only difference was that it just had that same 3xAAA holder inside rather than any kind of recharging circuit, but it did even have the little dot on the top where the lead goes in on yours. I used it as the light for a cosplay prop and it did the job extremely well.
NiMH typical output is 1.2V per cell (x3 = 3.6V). NiMH charge voltage is 1.4~1.6V per cell (x3 = 4.2~4.8V). These times-three values are pretty spot on with Li-Ion cell voltages.
I would love to see more projects and reviews of light with light sensors and movement sensors.
They give so much possibilities to every project and dont really need much components.
Right now Im working on small 5v lap that will automatically turn on when its dark and I even managed to make it light up smooth from off to on depending on amount of light in room
The way the charging input jack is wired to the battery holder makes it possible to power this from USB directly, which is nice. The difference in voltage is potentially increasing the power of the device, to 20mA per LED at the last setting, perhaps....
caught your videos some time ago by accident really like them so subscribed.Now i'm addicted.You were asking about ads.When I watch on tv the first video runs an ad which you can click off sometimes usually a bank or hardware store or somebody selling a car or a monster machine that can rip 8" of dirt in a pass and blah blah blah and then they go away as the videos auto play.On the computer the same thing except for the bar ad at the bottom of the screen where you click the x to get rid of it. Mostly ads for getting rid of your criminal record.I'm in B.C. Canada.Hope this helps.
That little 8 pin chip that appears in everything these days is the beginnings of Skynet, mark my words.
Tactical Hotdog why do you need skynet if you have Facebook that not only know more about you that your family but thanks to its algorithms it can actually bend people opinions and actions by just posting specific info in specific time and you would still think that you choose that/like it.
Akinaro Facebook IS Skynet...
Well, Facebook is like any other media, it mainly focuses on bending your opinion in an effort to make money, nothing special about it, except that it and some other social networks works completely automatically without human interaction, but Im still pretty confident that it cant go out of control.
Chuckiele
Its not hooked up to any important machines yet... But just wait until all the various Alexa, Google Home, etc type devices push home automation into being normal.... Then Facebook will convince the masses to add Facebook support to their home management.... Then Facebook will kill.
Thats true, but at the moment, i think we are fine. And you still always have the choice not to use it.
The main PCB said "60LEDPCB" in the silkscreen. @ 3:57
I've got one of these, but I've never trusted it to charge an 18650 cell so I always remove the battery before plugging in the cord. If you plug the cord into a power bank or a usb power supply you can run the light without a cell inside. I had mine mounted over my small workbench and plugged into a usb power supply so I could run it for long periods of time when I needed a little extra light.
That white plastic part would make a grand plug hole filter for hair. Especially for people with a grand beard Clive. Maybe you could swap the outer and inner LED'S for colors and added a Christmas tree light controler and make a fun disco light?
Plastic LED face plate or repurposed food catcher for a drain? You decide
MelbAnon
I though some sort of shower head.... But now you mention it...
MelbAnon - Yes, like many things on this channel, it looks far more interesting dismantled than it did, erm, mantled.
Thanks for bumping the prices of these - I used to use them for months now as a replacement for 85mm LED Spots because of the easy but featurerich PCB circuitry to use with an ESP8266... Thanks to your video the prices have doubled now - rendering it useless as a cheap replacement.
Hello, Clive! Very good video as always - do you plan making another Q&A? That'd be really nice as well! Cheers!
i just wish they started selling stuff with warm led's.. everything i buy (normally good branded stuff anyhow) and all blueish or white on them it drives me crazy i miss the warm light feel. like these lantern things i once bought although not really a top brand but there not rechargable types so not like matters to much. but kinda style of an old hurricane lantern see from 1800~1900's but..they use blueish white led's and im like... thats not really a good color for something like this... i would loved a warm/orange flameish color more to imitate what they are they dont need to flicker like a flame but been nice. must do it for cheapness dont they?
i like cold white better owo.
cold places in Canada as well. i don't mind cool white but some times. when turn on a flashlight or a lantern normally its warm, back when incandescent bulbs where in your time. like mine i just wish they had an option. i understand white or blueish ones are brighter. but i don't need everything i buy be like that aha what happened to comfort lighting as a standard or option. i mean like to buy it as be happy not rip it apart and try to change the led out. as i find no need for it. as much as i love modding things but times i feel shouldn't have to
If you get an LED video light to go on a camera they usually have a colour temperature setting so you can just turn a knob to go from a cold light(high colour temperature) to a warm light (low colour temperature).
Me too, i hate this super cold white blue from venus trend
Natsuki Comfort lighting, aka warm white LED’s of a warm color temperature, are more expensive. Obviously cheap things made in China are not going to have such expensive things. Incandescent lamps, due to their extreme inefficiency are going the way of extinct animals.
Nice solder job!
Why do you love lights so much?
I like audio stuff so not judging!
I guess that now that it's open, you can stick a TPA4056 between the board and the battery, to safely use 18650...
Nice base for PIC 12F675 project....
Rip out thse LEDs and drop some of them colour-changing LEDs of yours, that'll make it look a lot better... :D
Crazy how putting a microcontroller (I assume) into this device is cheaper than a few transistors that could do the extremely simple switching logic.
John Howard they only do the switching, not the logic behind the button
Next video, clive adds multicolour lights and blows it up with a microwave capacitor
phonotical I miss PhotonicInduction
What happened to Photonic?
BangDroid His photon level has dropped dangerously low. Anyone got a fully charged flux capacitor handy to give him a jump start?
WHERE'S "ME" HAMMER
" 'AMMER"
Should do a timelapse video plugging in the jack with an unprotected ultrafire 18650 loaded.
@ 3min mark - hey look you've got yourself a new shower drain cover ;)
I would love to see a revised circuit design by you for this device!
Nice to see something built better than the typical junk, the housing I mean, though it is unnecessarily large considering it doesn't effectively use the casing for heatsinking. The diameter is excessive and who really needs a diffuser dome for camping? I'd want the protection, from insects if nothing else since it doesn't appear to be waterproof, but not the lumen loss.
Given how precious battery power can be while camping, I'd also have preferred more efficient Cree LEDs, and the circuit board looks marginal for 1A drive, probably running the LED dies fairly hot with addt'l lumen loss when it could've been built on an (aluminum) mPCB instead.
I suppose since it's CHEAP enough, you could just take along another battery but on the other hand if built well and as efficient as possible, might be something you would get use out of for the rest of your life which IMO is worth a few dollars more. You don't need a closet full of redundant LED lights, just a few nice ones that you like to use.
I've got several of those and always thought about opening one to see wether they have any protection circuitry. Obviously not. However the little chip could have a low voltage cutoff, did you test for that? The protected 18650 i got fit only very barely into the casing. If i ever get hold of that idiot who decided it is okay to make an 18650 cell longer than 65mm i wont do nice things to him, thats for sure.
the 19670 came out for that very reason and the normal Jo was getting confused so everyone just uses the term '18650 protected' now
That's because a protected 18650 is made from an unprotected 18650 plus a small protection circuit.
I don’t think it has low volt protection but want to know for sure
I reckon it won't be long before we see Poundland's LED Christmas light projector on here!
I just had a look at poundland's website... they've done a rather classy looking Christmas catalogue thingie, very visual merchandising. I don't like it - it's full of coordinated bauble and tinsel collections. we always used to just accumulate a gaudy mash up of decorations and save them from year to year in the loft. I guess the modern way is to be more coordinated and just lash them into the landfill so that you're on trend again next year.
I want one but here's no Poundland (Netherlands) :(
Maico you have Action there ...and here in Germany too. Both are full of cheap Chinese stuff.
yeah Action is a lovely shop indeed. I go there regularly. Its not got the identical choice of Chinese tat Poundland has though so if Pounland has something I want .... :)
Let me tell you a little background story about the Action shops. Here in my province of Noord-Holland a supermarket called Deen has a high market percentage, especially in my town and north of it (an area called West-Friesland). Deen started the Action chain ! It is now sold to some british capital investor though :( My city Purmerend had one of the first Action shops :)
Heh I have two of those. Lasted the last two years pretty well. I use a separate charger though never used the usb feature.
I have the same unit, The solar version :)
It's focused!
Clive.? Can you check out the MIBOXER smart charger.. Would love to see the setup on this thing. its unbealeavable at what it can do for rechargable batteries.
I suspect it is supposed to come with the Li charger USB plug (as Clive showed) but somebody decided to save some money by just putting a plain lead in. These products are designed to be sold, not used!
Looks like it wouldn't be too difficult to hack a TP 4056 charge module in to protect the cell when charging. Circuit is simple enough
Exactly my train of thoughts. I'd already suggested on another video (think it was DiodeGoneWild's video regarding the deadly camping light) about modifications using a lithium cell and a TP4056; I reckon that removing the input jack and shoving a protected TP4056 in it would work nicely. All you'd need to then do is connect the power to the correct pins on the board.
I might buy one of these in the future, plus a dodgy camping light, to see if these conversions to protected TP4056 would be possible. As I have quite a lot of spare lithium cells around!
Did you ever go into how to charge Lithium-ion properly? At 4:50 it sounds like putting 5V on a protected cell is just fine but isn't it more complicated then that?
You'd have to limit the current to a reasonable level.
Could the chip be a binary counter of some sort?
All three transistor base resistors are different, are they using the transistors as current limiting devices by not turning them fully on?
It looks like that and the transistor for the largest number of LEDs may be different too.
that would be the case, but it either has to a quite random value, or maybe they use some kind of bjt's with fairly known hfe?
Has anyone mentioned that you say "let's uh..." quite a lot and that when you do, it activates amazon Alexa?
Allan McNair Bigclive has a secret deal with Amazon to get all his followers to buy cheap tat via Alexa voice purchases.
dual camp fire starting function
Hi Clive is there any chance you could review a 3 way touch switch/sensor? They only cost a couple of pounds on eBay, I’m fitting one in a lamp and would like to know if they are safe or not?
The circuitry varies widely in the cheap eBay units. A safer one should have obvious blue class Y capacitors and high value resistors in series with the touch wire. I'm not sure I'd trust the generic import ones though.
Clive I never hear you say much about the soldering job that you show on some of this cheep Chinese stuff.
I've got one of these!!
Separate PCB per number of LEDs: Notice that this board has 60LEDPCB marked on it.
since its got no 4.2V cut-off protection it is more suitable for 3 Ni-MH cells I guess
Looks like plenty of room to put in a small charge protection board.
Looks to me like sticking Ni-MH cells in that wee clip isn't that bad an idea after all...
There wasn't any charge protection circuitry on the internal PCBs, but what about that USB charging lead? Looked like there were some extra electronics in the USB plug itself. There might've been charge protection there.
That wasn't the one supplied with it. The supplied one was just a bare lead.
Ahhh, nevermind then. I stand corrected!
Odd that the resistors seem to be three different values. Perhaps it's a fairly bogus attempt to regulate the current by limiting the base current and relying on the transistors' betas? More likely, it's just "sweep the floor" construction where they use whatever resistors they happen to pick up.
Clive - have you noticed that many of the "anonymous" chips have in fact had their markings removed? Mentioned this to an Engineering (EBME) colleague, and his view is that many may be "seconds", de-identified and sold in bulk for pennies on the pound. Essentially, chips that don't "quite" meet the Mfr's listed specs, but are deficient in a minor (rather than major) fashion. Any thoughts or comments on this?? (Ta in advance from Sunny Vanuatu!)
Very cute
1:30 "A total of 25 LEDs, 18+12+5". Umm, that's 35, not 25. ;)
PS. It is quite the daunting task to nitpick you, Clive, so I must take my shots wherever I can find them, however trivial they may be. Still love your channel, keep up the great work! :)
PPS. Does the mention of a "Heathkit Laboratory Oscilloscope", model IO-30, spark any interest (or even mean anything to you)? Yes, I have one of those -- my dad built it when I was a kid -- and it still works.
25 on the outside, plus 18, plus 12, plus 5 = 60
If you'll watch it again you can see you simply misheard him. Nice try though
Kakunapod
D'oh! ... Epic fail! ;)
clive if you were to add a charge protection circuit (cheap on ebay) would you put it in the wires to the battery terminals?
So there is *nothing* between the battery and the charge port? If i understand that correctly, if you put in the battery in reverse, the chip is protected, but you could potentially fry your computer when you plug it in for charging?
O and
Another good video.
Hey Bigclive have you seen the party balloons that have an led in them. My son turned 12 a few days ago I bought a pkg of 5 from Wal-Mart. Says they stay lit for 15 hours it's Ben 4 days and they are still lit. I took one apart it has a link led inside an orange balloon, with 2 very small batteries button with the leds bent across the positive and negative. I wish we could post picture on you tube massage.
I've got those and indeed the single colour ones light for weeks (albeit gradually dimmer and dimmer) and I even replaced the cells in one of the nice purple coloured ones :)
Maico so no resistor because the voltage is 3 volts give or take right.
If I'm right: if the forward voltage of the LED is say 2 V the remaining 1 volt over the high impedance of the coin cells will not allow the current to be too high for the LED
Maico I think you are, I'm sure I've seen bigclive take a button battery and power them, because only a volt or so. No problem.
Maico buy the way they are still lit.
Buy 3 of these and replace the white leds with red, green and yellow ones and then you have a traffic light !
other then using a protected cell what and were can i add to protect a regular flat top cell
thank you
bigclive, could you have a look at car electronics ? Cars are similar have sensors ecu etc but when something goes kaput v expensive . could they not standardise units ??? thanks. I used to have a friendly tv rerpair/ electronic guy who used to repair electronic car bits for me eg bmw dashboard, but he has moved , so I am distraught.
O.o how does it control how many leds to light up as its wired as one parallel ? why it not light up 7 leds instead of 5 leds?
What is the purpose of the Mica Brown cover (that shouldn't be removed according to the warning sticker) on a Microwave?
John Ross its purposes is to provide a path for the microwaves into the metal containment area you cook in. The Mica is a high temperature cover.
so what about the circuitry in the charge lead you did show it briefly with components inside but you didn't take it to bits.
+the fire 226 That was from another product. I was using it as an example of one with active circuitry.
Hey , kind of an off-topic stupid question :D I am about to try to measure 30 A with one of the cheap-o multimeters . The question is - should I do it?
And yes, I am well aware it states 10A on the face and I probably shouldn't do it without another resistor in line, but come on :D
(it's just a brief measurement to check a chinesium battery charger's claim to fame)
I guess what I am asking is if someone knows for sure what's about to happen.
Love and respect for bigclivedotcom :)))
You could use a beefy low value resistor in series and just measure the voltage drop and do an ohm's law calculation. You don't have an inductive/clamp ammeter? I bought one from Radio Shack that does up to 800amps AC/DC. Definintely a worthy investment.
yes,yes , like I says - I know I should do it like that or with a shunt of some sort. However, I do not have any resistive elements on hand and I am picking it up from a delivery office .If I make a shunt from a wire , it might look too sketchy :D I can only test it there and if I miss any flaw - I have to live with it , no returns after that .
Also idk if the damn thing wont fry itself after a few seconds connected on a dead short :D
Thanks for the reply anyway :D I'll do it tomorrow and post how it went.(it should work, I think-famous last words)
Edit: yeah I would love to have the clamps :D but why do you think I am buying cheap shit:D and testing it with cheap shit ?
If I recall correctly, it will just immediately blow the internal fuse in the multi-meter so you won't even get a proper reading.
AC/DC clamp meters are about $37 US on Amazon. That's a lot of money but it will last you for years. I can't believe I waited 20 years to buy one, but in truth I didn't even know they existed until Clive showed them to me! That guy has really expanded my knowledge - THANK-YOU CLIVE!!
lol johnnykache1000 -that's what I was afraid of :/ do you recall the amperage you were attempting to measure ?
No, it was years ago - sorry. I imagine anything over 12 to 15 amps would blow immediately.
Does the cord not have a protection circuit?
Been wondering if you'g get to this. I've had one for about 2 1/2 years . only use it with the li ion cell. it came with a generic one and a plugin charger that changes led colors when it's charged but is so light one wonders how safe it is.
main thing is at least with th 18650 batteries is full bright doesn't last long :( while camping but hey the hook fits the tent nicely, wonder if the protection is in that very lightweight transformer?
Clive, there's a thing showing on Chinese sites about a gadget that plugs into your lighter socket in your car and is supposed to save you fuel.
Obviously it's bullshit but I'm pretty curious what's inside it and what it actually is.
Thanks, know what the video is called so I can look it up?
Thanks.
At least it's not an 18650 as standard!
+bigclivedotcom Wanna see a reason you find so many sketchy grounding and QC issues from Ebay tat?: ruclips.net/video/Q6ut32xs49A/видео.html
I'm fascinated and scared at the same time.
Hi Clive can you help me with a dilemma i got a 3 ph moter and in told if i wire it up in the delta wireing with capasiters on the third connection it can run on 240 v is this true
You can run some motors that way, but only in low torque applications. It's much more viable to buy a standard Chinese motor inverter drive on eBay and get full speed and power control.
bigclivedotcom thank you clive ile have a look on ebay
does anybody know the LUMENS output by chance? I'm thinking as an additional photography light source
matt gratton probably under 100 lumens considering they use about 1w
Cekpi7 thx.appreciated.
A led video light would be better. 96 led with diffuser and warming filter $14 on ebay.
The colour rendering index for these cheap "white" leds is pretty average.
Matt Burrows thanks I was looking into some of those.just a bit dubious as prices vary for the same items and most from China......
The Gree LED`s i use in my bike can be got in the yellow spectrum and are blindingly bright!
"Girl, 14, is electrocuted by faulty iPhone charger after rolling on to the cable as she slept in Vietnam"
Expectedly...
Think I'll give this one a miss!
What happend to your left hands finger?
General work related abrasion.
jack in the back lol
I wish it was another gay Dalek
I've actually got about three different gay dalek death lights sitting here that I haven't made a video about yet.
Wonderfull.
I want them video-d NOW :)
One day these gay daleks seem to take over the whole world.
Please! We need more of those things. I actually bought two, also death versions according to my fluke lol.
But i converted them to charge with USB and put some nice SDI 18650s in them. I really like those things.
Hi Clive, it’s Jay Wynn AKA THE SINGING ROBOT (BGT SEMI-FINALIST) could I contact you privately on your preferred means of messaging ? I’m working on a project and could use some advice with the electronics 🤖🇬🇧🎤👾👍🏻😎
Third!
TEAR DOWN!!
Ahhahaha
2:12 Spot the gay death Dalek light.
charging can also mean filling a container to the full extend. commonly used with guns. I'd say you can charge the device by putting batteries in.
its a little bit of a stretch though.
jort93z
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you can not only charge a battery you can also charge a gun with a round for example. you could say its also charging if you put a battery into the slot.
"rechargeable" aka removable battery
Dischargeable, surely.
i mean, chinese characters commonly mean 5 or more english words at once. its quite plausible that the character for "charging" as in batteries also means putting something into a container.