Britain's (Pretty Bad) Plan to Delete all EU Law
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Britain is currently in the process of reviewing and deleting EU laws that were copy and pasted over into British legislation. That might sound reasonable, but there are tens of thousands of laws to look through, and they've given themselves a dangerously tight deadline...
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Your camera's frame rate is super low
Why is this slowed down?? are you streching it out so it hits the 10 minute mark?
@@ASLUHLUHCE The whole thing is slow, they slowed it down, put it to 1.2x speed and its about right.
@@97SEMTEX Oh shit you're right
You MUST understand, allowing ministers to choose whichever of thousands of laws to remove without ANY debate is basically the same as allowing them to write the legal code without any debate, this is insane
That's literally a dictatorship
This is the real issue. It gives the conservative government nearly carte blanche to rewrite the judiciary system as they see fit.
If the majority of Parliament votes against the new code it can't go through, plus we did vote for tories in the first place and it won't make any difference if you voted another party in we,d still be doing the same as we are now
Yes it is insane. But looking back those past eight years: Do you really expect sanity from British politics?
@@joepatterson595 the main point of this bill is to give ministers the power to change the law without consulting parliament.
When they say "EU laws", just remember that the UK was a big part of the EU, and approved or even pushed themselves for most of these laws...
Is "the UK" a fixed unchanging entity that cannot change "its" mind over time?
Why go through the EU to create UK laws rather than just make UK laws? It's like trying to get the whole neighbourhood to agree how to run your house rather than just running your house based on your own judgement.
@@orestesmitas And that is going great for the UK so far
@@orestesmitas Or do as Britain does and did, and plant its people throughout the neighbourhood and beyond and gradually take over.
@@orestesmitas Because you need common rules to be in a single market, among other things...
Me from the future: who could have guessed that scrapping 40 years of legislation and then trying to fix it in 3 years was a terrible idea?
Forget that; what are the winning Power Ball numbers? DM me! 😂
The first thing the government should do is to withdraw from the EU human rights act. Only by doing so, UK can tackle with the illegal migrants coming from France everyday.
@@chaselee86, wrong. The UK signed the Geneva refugee convention so it is required to process the applications of Asylum seekers independently of any "European" law.
The EU law itself (Dublin) allows to deport illegal migrants within the EU, so your whole story is completely wrong. There's simply no human right of free movement for refugees. The CJEU has made this absolutely clear in various decisions.
@@jayfraxtea Not to mention that so many baying mouth alongers following the Tory script have missed that the European Convention on Human Rights and the European Court of Human Rights are both part of the Council of Europe structure, not the EU.
But understanding these kind of practical details is not something you can expect of the “Muhu, take back control, we’re being invaded!” bunch of nonces. This is of course assuming the other poster is not simply trolling, or a bot.
You mean you in the future where the UK has the strongest currency, lowest inflation, and all electric bikes
A truly dangerous bill.
1. None of this is EU Law - all was approved by UK parliament and could have been vetoed by HMG.
2. This bill serves two purposes - A. To slash workers rights, environmental protections, food and consumer standards and B To ensure that any attempts to rejoin any EU institution would be more difficult as we diverge.
This completly destroys any semblance of parliamentary sovereignty.
No there is a bunch of stuff that was done as Statutory Instruments as opposed to Primary Legislation. This bill is about those Statutory Instruments only as my brother explained it to me unless they have changed it (he is a Judge). However it is still lunacy.
If your brother failed to explain to you that Statutory Instruments get laid before Parliament, then he didn't explain it to you. (-:
@@JdeBP Oh deary deary me. They may be looked at by a committee but they don't have to be and generally are not. Most Statutory Instruments are things like changing the monetary value of a fine. So for example a whole bunch of traffic offences went from 3 points and £60 to 3 points and £100 via a Statutory Instrument which didn't go before Parliament. It is a critical distinction because if a Statutory Instrument was voted on it would be primary legislation not secondary legislation which is what Statutory Instruments are.
In the Brexit context, May tried to withdraw from the EU with a Statutory Instrument without putting it before Parliament and the Supreme Court said no you can't do that, has to be primary legislation that the Commons votes on.
If we could veto any law what is even the point of the EU and its laws, then? If it is purely UK law, then altering it should be OK. The executive has separated powers too.
You guys display your ignorant stupidity, daily.
@@adarkimpurity The veto and potential change to EU laws would be done during the drafting process, like any other law but once agreed then it becomes EU law but many such laws included allowances for local national interpretation - other countries undertake this during their ratification. This is the point that EU laws also become national laws.
Anyone else remember when it was supposed to be “quick and easy” to “get Brexit done” and all of us who claimed that it just didn’t work like that was part of “Project Fear”?
And spent 5 years stopping of any progress towards brexit. Which put us in this scuffed situation
@@prismatic-elastin8244
So the oven-ready deal was a lie then ?
You're claiming that the government couldn't do Brexit because of resistance from others, they couldn't do it because they had no plan, no agreement amongst themselves and no tangible benefit for doing it.
Brexiters always blame everyone else for not getting their unicorns.
@@prismatic-elastin8244 That is how government works. Without a solid majority of people supporting an idea, it is hard to get it through government.
@@prismatic-elastin8244
That’s so awesome. When your idea starts going wrong at every possible turn and you’re finally proven that Brexit was a bad idea pursued for the sake of abstract notions like “independence”, it’s simple, really: just blame those who opposed Brexit for having delayed it from happening! Because of course, the problems with Brexit aren’t from Brexit itself, heavens no, it all stems from it not having happened sooner!
You could not be coping any harder if you tried.
@@Floristini you hit the nail right on the head
Actually lots of EU laws have been created together with and/or negotiated by the UK itself….
The UK was well knows as the "writer" and others in the EU often just copied....but no we are not allowed to remember that 😀
@@Pkari so why would we want to revoke them all, at the same time, if we wrote them? Yet again it's something that seems a bit thick to me...
Shhhh! We all know that but don't, ok?
@@surrenderfleet because this is "powerful" symbolic policy, populism is another term
@@surrenderfleet populism to reap the self-sown anti-eu-sentiment.
i took European Constitutional Law in 2015 at a UK university, and already at that time I remember the professors were saying that it would take at least a decade to draft enough laws to replace EU ones sufficiently and that the only logical way to do this is to keep the EU law until its replaced. Crazy how the Tories want to do it in one go.
More importantly, why do we have so many idiots who think walking away from our friends is going to magically fix all our problems? NO IT WONT!
Everyone is in bad spot this year, mostly due to pre-existing INTERNAL problems that have nothing to do with international relations.
Nobody wants to admit that alot of what we're seeing now is a long overdue recking for kicking ALL the cans down the road with our domestic issues and that's something that's true on either side of the Atlantic right now.
thats bevause the politicians dont vare about how things work, only how they sound in the news...and "everything bad can be fixed in our country if we demonize the EU enougth, none of this is our own fault" sounds damn good
@@TheGamingSyndrom why does that sentence sound sooo familiar? **looks at a history book** oh! . . . . greetings from Germany ;-)
I always felt like the UK just want to get rid of EU stuff just because. It feels like a toddler throwing a tantrum
WE ARE STILL AN EMPIRE!! TAKE US SERIOUSLY!! WE ARE STILL AN EMPIRE!!!
Yeah, just baby throwing out the brocolli
What they do not understand is eu is close neighbor and best trading partner. It is your choice to lose and do not think eu will miss uk… people do not even think about it. People will live lifes but uk’s people will be struggling alot more.
Kind of like Trump cancelling all treaties and reversing all laws made by Obama
@@davidkinnear1905 no i wont
no you are not
I wouldn't mind if they had a plan. But they'll get rid of it and rush to find a fix as big businesses find new loop holes to destroy the average worker
That was the whole plan for Brexit. Screw the workers by removing all the law the Govt has to force standards and rights for living standards for workers and the general population. It was always about rhetoric and riding a popular wave to get ammo for re-election. 12 years of this petty minded rubbish has driven our economy into the ground. Under Labour "average workers" were building extensions to their homes. The NHS worked and Education was a priority.
You just described the plan.
Part of the plan might be to get rid of it then leave the mess for Labour to sort out given the timing of how close it will be to the next election. Pretty much everything they are doing right now seems to be a smash and grab while purposely leaving a mess for Labour as opposed to actually running the country properly.
This is the plan. 😄
The Plan is 'scorched earth' .Burn everything down as to create the ultimate disaster for when Labour takes over after the next elections . According to Sun Tzu this has been done before
"This isn't going end well." Has been a consistent theme with the UK Government over the last years...
For people outside of England, we have said this for over a decade. No one listens to us though.
@@Its-Just-Gizmo im english and dont like this party so...
@@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj I'm happy for you. But the majority of England did. So...
@@Its-Just-Gizmo
No the majority.
Not enough people bordered to show up to vote against the Brexit.
@@jeckjeck3119 🤷♂️ the majority of votes won.
Every time i hear MPs talk about unlocking our potential I never hear them say specifically what getting rid of EU law would actually let us do, they just say 'more innovation'
In example start fishing again?
Basically doing away with all restrictions that protect you as a citizen
Here's a specific for you: One of the things being changed (there isn't a full list yet, but there is a list of _some_ things) is the Armed Forces Act 2006 section 238. It originally said that when sentencing courts "must" take into account previous convictions in British courts. This was later amended to include a similar "must" requirement for prior convictions in E.U. member state courts as well. This is being undone so that taking note of criminal convictions in E.U. courts is no longer mandatory.
Now have fun squaring the notion that Jacob Rees-Mogg's proposed Bill will allow U.K. courts to henceforth ignore criminal status in the E.U., where they weren't allowed to under the E.U. law, with the populist rhetoric that the U.K. should be doing more about criminals coming from the E.U.. (-:
I'll simplify it for you. Less laws are good for business. More laws are bad for business. Simple as
Huh. Must by why the economy boomed in the Neolithic, and then tanked under the Roman legislative yoke. 🤔
Ah, the "i can have candy for dinner because I have my own place now" law
Being an adult is being allowed to eat an entire cake if you want to. Being an adult is also knowing why this is a bad idea
In that metaphor brexit was in puberty and just a phase.
@@Sapeidra it's like the UK was living in a large house share with cheap rent and the perks of having other housemates to split the workload. Now the UK is renting by itself and wondering why it has no money and has to scrounge from all its mates
The year has still some days left to make it even worse. Keep going chaps! Bloody good show I say!
@Tom Williams first and only!
and brexit the show has another chapter. looks we are heading for 12 seasons
@@mitch8072 *SHITshow
I want to nove to Mars. Moon would be fine too.
The Brexitshow just shows why british humor has such a reputation. I enjoy every day!
The UK gov keeps digging deeper and deeper in the Brexit rabbit hole and it just looks that the effects are going to be suffer by a whole generation. Now, Tories are to blame for this obviously. But let's not forget about Labour, who just been avoiding any criticism of Brexit in the sake of not losing the votes of their brexiteers.
To be fair, even with brexiteer votes labour hasn't gotten a majority, they've been scramblin for any votes they can. Tories should be ousted out, and at least one election term of a labour majority to refresh british society and humble the tories a bit.
How are we going to get out of this mess?
I know we’ll dig our way out!
….no dig up stupid
there’s been plenty of criticisms about Brexit, from both sides; politicians just need to get on and deliver it
@@rashleyd2063 Half of the population of the UK don't want Brexit to be happening at all. They can't just deliver it as they have opposition to every bit of it.
@@rashleyd2063 The bank of england just went on record to say brexit was a shit idea
The sad thing is that if there actually were any EU laws which hindered the UK in any meaningful way then they would be satisfied with gutting those ones alone, but because there aren't any they have to gut every EU law on the books to make it look like they've actually done something. Dogmatism beyond belief.
Yes of course, bruh EU would cuck any nation increasingly in a globalist oriented vision for the "project" making it impossible to seperate without actually doing so. No one wants wierdo rainbow commies(that are not voted nationals) to dictate their nations future and peoples. A simple little hate speech law or a pandemic mandate and whole populations would be shut down from self determination or protests
@@magnem1043 Are you a Russian bot? Your translator isn't making much sense.
@@rcm926 NPC cant compute
You just know that a day after this law passes, some company would dump toxic waste into a schoolyard and then go "but you just repealed the law that said we can't do this." And they would be right.
It would still fall under criminality law.
@@AmateurHEROduelist One would hope, but there would probably be things that aren't covered under criminality law because it would have been redundant since EU law already covered it. The US found this out the hard way when Roe v Wade got overturned and plenty of states that didn't need state level abortion rights protections because that was covered at the federal level suddenly found themselves in need of them.
Dreamt by the Johnson government...
Introduced by the Truss government...
Currently being advanced by the Sunak government...
....all in the same year.
It's hearing things like this that reminds us how weird this year has been.
Well people are stupid enough to allow Tories to rule over us. People are dumb enough to ignore their brains over Brexit. We warned them but our Newspapers are 90% far right toilet paper. This year is not weird.. its just very Conservative.
It's all smoke and mirrors, these are not separate governments, it's the same one from 12 years ago, they just keep replacing the person at the top to make it SEEM like it's different.
The Suella Braverman government that will be in charge before Christmas will be even worse to behold
I'm convinced that Johnson handled covid as badly as possible to create a smokescreen to hide the ridiculous Brexit ineptitude behind.
I am ready for this year to be over, if only life worked like that where as soon as the next year hit we could just start over but its just going to be another crap show like a television series that you once enjoyed, now they won't cancel, despite how painful it is to watch, like the Simpsons lol
I thought it was just the human rights laws they were trying to get rid of
Don't underestimate the wide field of brexit opportunities
Due to parliamentary sovereignty there is nothing stopping them from removing the human rights they don't like, and keeping the ones they like.
@@olamsoevik They don't like any human rights. Human rights doesn't effect them, because they aren't human.
European Convention On Human Rights was way before the EU, it literally has nothing to do with it.
This is what happens when you want to refactor your entire codebase with no tests
Not even refactoring. It's just straight up deleting a whole load of code without knowing what it does or why it's important.
@@Psyk60 Yeah it's weird, it's like they just want to delete all the codes their coworker writes just because now they aren't coworker anymore.
@@user-zw7cn1ck7s as he's standing there, waiting to fix the mess he created.
😂😂😂😂😂
This is the state equivalent to Elon Musk just shutting down all microservices and the stuff does not work.
I would like to extend a sincere thank you from NL. Cause after watching the Brexit fiasco, the "Nexit" retoric have died down to pretty much nothing.
So did the rhetoric about Quitaly. Anti-EU parties got 2.5% vote share and zero MPs in our general election this year. We must thank the Brits, they really took one for the team.
You're welcome
I'm not sure how any of the standard responses to "thank you" fit here. "You're welcome" seems to be belied by the Home Secretary, and "Our pleasure" is clearly a barefaced lie. (-:
Same for Frexit, Fixit, Czech out and others...
I am sure this is stupid, but which country is NL?
Scotland would like to add that this was Britain's idea entirely, don't lump us in with their idiocy, we didn't vote for it.
Actually just pin this comment to any and all vids posted on this channel about the UK.
It was more the idea of millions of idiots, rather than the country as a whole, considering almost half the people who voted didn't want to leave and now have to suffer through this.
You are Britain
@@Lando-kx6so Make me.
@@Kseudonym bagpipes intensifies
100% guarantee that there is currently a huge amount of work for Legal Consultancy firms to identify as many upcoming loopholes as possible for conservative ministers families' business's to exploit.
Even if they don't go through with this, the fact they would even FUCKING THINK of doing it is actually insane
@@theirishempire4952 I hope they do it. I need to stock up on popcorn and soda to watch the epic aftermath of passing that law. I hope so much they actually do it. I want to see what it's like when over 3800 laws just disappear, but obviously I don't want it to happen to me. Thankfully Brits (were) volunteered for this unprecedented experiment.
They had to do it eventually.... But having only a few years to go through decades of complex EU law? That is a level of "crunch time" I would not wish on my worst enemy.
@@SystemBD And now you get to the crux of why Brexit was a horrible idea. Because what Brexit means is the complete reconfiguration of an entire country's politics, foreign affairs, economy and society. Even if you got the best people ever to govern and gave them this task, they'd probably shrug because it's a gigantic task.
For example, UK businesses are technically asked to completely rethink their entire business models, contracts, hiring practices... etc. It's like if someone took you from your job, family, friends and sent you to the middle of the Sahara and told you this is your new life. The nearest oasis is... somewhere... it's your job to find it. That's Brexit.
They aren’t going to win any future election so they are trying to destroy the country. Typical right wing playbook.
@@octavianpopescu4776 And yet the UK still exists and leaving hasn't suffered nearly the effect people claimed it would. Just more fear mongering.
There is a technique in programming called "obfuscation". It is used when you need to hide something or make accessing it so hard that it's not worth it, and it is done by making the file it is in as unreadable and filled with other junk as possible. This is exactly what's happening here. This is what the entire Brexit was about. There is something (or multiple somethings) in those laws that somebody really wants to repeal, but can't do so publicly, which is why they are doing this nonsensical bill. It will be something that would be unpopular even with Conservative voters. Probably something around labor laws, NHS privatisation and/or financial system regulations. Anybody who votes for the Conservative party at this point is an idiot.
A few years ago I saw an interview of an ex member I think of ISIS. I can't remember the full context.
One of the thing he explained was one of the reasons, why some of these people are so bonkers. They were fully aware the government were attempting to infiltrate their organization and that introduced a level of paranoia in its members where the slightest suspicion of being a traitor or a spy would often lead to death. And to avoid that suspicion, it pushed their members to commit atrocities to show how committed they were, and typically leads to escalation in those atrocities. In fact, just between Al-Qaeda and ISIS, we can observe that, compared to ISIS Ben Laden almost seems reasonable which is a terrifying statement.
Now, of course, I'm not suggesting that we should stop infiltrating those organizations, or that Brexit in any way resembles these organizations.
But with Brexit, it feels like the same escalation is happening where successive governments seem to be trying to one up each other on proposing the most Brexit Brexit by proposing crazier and crazier things and escalating things. Just food for thought.
Always has been normal behaviour in any cult ever..
That is what all these things are basicly.
Even crazier the US is paying them to fight in Ukraine .
What you're seeing is called radicalization. It can happen with pretty much any set of beliefs: religious, political, etc. The ideology doesn't matter in and of itself as much as what matters is the intensity of belief in that set of values. It's the same reason why Nazis and communists had a sort of mutual admiration, despite their enmity. It's why the leader of Aryan Nations in the US once said he admires Al Qaeda and why far-right groups have cooperated with radical islamic groups. The reason is they use similar methods and techniques and the ideology itself is actually not that relevant. Any normal thing can be twisted into something extreme through radicalization. This is why if you want to understand radical groups, don't look as much to their beliefs, but to their methods.
@@octavianpopescu4776 may also explain why there are so many snobs among commoners and how bullies build a following from among weak
@@JN-wr9he Yes, especially the bullies having weak followers. This is deliberate, by design, it's not a coincidence. Radical groups seek weak/disaffected/disillusioned people for recruitment.
If the Brexiteers want to remove EU law, they should remove every law one by one, with fair discussion going into every one of them.
Honestly though, UK politics has been a trashcan fire ever since the Brexit referendum and as a European, I'm here to watch it
The goal is preventing any discussion, because if they discussed the actual changes this would involve, they would look blatantly evil for trying to repeal them
@@HappyGingerWolf I am sure Farage and Rees-Mogg are already salitvating over the opportunities for their taskmasters. And those are probably already starting the run-in to go in dry ;)
Oooor they can just get rid of all 3800 of them over night and see what happens. Your solution isn't good, because it's rational and logical, which makes it boring. My solution is better, because it's more fun and we'd have so much stuff to watch with popcorn and soda.
You seem to be one of those rational guys .
@@octavianpopescu4776 Beat me to it, lmao. Brexit makes me happy I'm not British. Sure logic dictates this is crazy, but I got popcorn and soda.
Wow I love being the ones to pay for this mess despite never choosing it!
Depressing af...
The reason old EU law should have supremacy over UK law is that hundreds of laws are passed and changed every year, and parliament never bothered to update UK laws since EU laws were enough and no one thought the UK was ever gonna leave. So those are essentially updated UK laws.
This video doesn't even mention the possible EU response. Removing those laws might break level playing field requirements forcing the EU to introduce trade barriers to compensate
Good point, Bart. The TCA itself has long annexes with retained EU law. Just one example: There are rules on mutual recognition of university and other degrees for many professions, i.a. for veterinaries. If canceled by the UK, the EU members do not have to recognise any longer a vet. degree obtained from a university in the UK. Consequence: There will be hardly any vets in the UK to sign the hygiene certificates necessary to export animals and animal products to the EU (exception: maybe you find a - e.g. - Polish vet. with a diploma of the Warsaw university and living in the UK). ... More fun to come ...
"EU laws"
UK itself voted and pushed for many of those laws. It was one of the top 3 influential and privileged members.
-Would you destroy your country out of ego for a very bad decision that you took?
-The conservative party : Hold my tea
Honestly, what is wrong with these people.
If the average person who's relatively unversed in the world of politics can see the danger of the government's actions a mile off, how is it that people supposedly better educated and who have effectively been raised for the position they now find themselves in are going, "Yeah fuck it that seems like a good idea"?
NZ did something like this in the 1988. The Old English Laws Act 1858, effectively said that every law in England as of 1840, is now part of NZ law as far as it is relevant. Then, there were a number of followup Acts that kept making specific English Acts part of our law, too. Those English Laws Acts were all repealed in 1988, but named specific English Acts that remain anyway. 2022 and we still have a number of English laws on the books that haven't been repealed and replaced with our own, more relevant versions.
I think it's more of a problem with the way they handle it. If they said "over next few years we will scrutinize EU laws, check potential impact of removing them and if they are still necessary" then I doubt people would be so against it.
But instead they are rushing it and give too much authority to people who will be involved in the process. They are endangering the society because things like loopholes in food laws can cause actual physical harm to people.
Yeah, you spent 150 years for this process, while British want in 3 :)
Even in America some of our case law still goes back to English case law, as early on our Supreme Court understood that if we didn’t keep that continuity then cases that previously would have fairly obvious outcomes because they were settled in a similar manner for centuries would then have to be determined by individual courts each of which would likely create their own standards that would take decades to standardize (something that does occasionally happen with modern laws as different appellate courts create different standards that remain different until the Supreme Court takes a case to resolve the differences).
I had one judge tell me that once he was resolving a case of a land use dispute between a goat-rancher and a sheep-rancher. As part of his decision in the case he ended up having to look at the relevant case law which in that case stretched back to the 1100s in England.
This scrapping of EU laws simply because they’re EU is simply silly.
Ireland spent literal decades working on their statute reform and passed a series of bills over many, many years repealing most of, but not all of, the laws enforced upon them by the English and later British. That's the level of investment that needs to happen here to decide what laws stay, what laws go, and what laws get tweaked.
Obviously this will not happen because Brexiteers, but the precedent exists to do this intelligently, if they'll listen.
well... even in the former straits settlement colony of Singapore, we have tons of old british ordinances including the just repealed section 377A, aka the gay sex law, which got updated with a more updated version that basically commit to status quo without criminalising the action and still commit to the family first policy of the government (the section was never enforced, but was kept on books. but government unspoken policy has always been literally same as the US military's old LGBT+ policy, "don't ask, don't tell" )
Since the government is evidently bothered by the fact that those are “EU branded” laws, rather than their actual content, wouldn’t it be better to hire just a few people, buy a couple of tankers of correction fluid an erase any EU logo from every page, pretend they are old British laws, and live happily ever after?
To do so, it'd require an IQ higher than zero. Sadly enough, those in the parliament who voted for this bill don't have such an high IQ
Just a question form someone without law knowledge: is it possible to start a lawsuit against the UK government for reckless behaviour? If so would this qualify as such?
Yes. Boris Johnson was famously sued for getting the monarch to prorogue Parliament, in 2019. No, this would not qualify, however.
In general international law, nation-states cannot be sued unless it consents. Only times you can sue them is if you're filing either a citizen suit (for infringing your compatriots' constitutional rights), taxpayer suit (if you think the government spending on something using your tax dollars is wrong), or a legislator suit (reserved only for legislators)...
If Rees Mogg is backing this then I'm very suspicious
Tories get to reshape the judiciary as they see fit, with little to no oversight. Of course that weasel is salivating at the thought.
Weren't huge numbers of those laws written by or at least co-authored by the UK
All of them.
Yup.
Yes. And the overwhelming majority were voted for by the UK as well.
pretty much all of them, they were part of the first expansion wave
Having taken part in working groups for creating some rules in a given industry, people may not realize how much it takes to set up such a document. You have to analyze the impact of each sentence on the legal security, on the market, the investors etc… I bet they will need decades to go through that.
On the other hand, in their narrative, Uk was suffering from the burden of UE laws. In this narrative, it’s just not possible to not revoke them…
I bet it would go worse if they gone with it... they need to go with one by one or a bunch of it... not legislative Salem witch hunt and torch everything
Totally agree. It's worth noting that these "EU laws" were not imposed on us, it's likely that the UK actively supported a lot of them or even requested them, and of course we had the ability to veto them if we so wished. Perhaps it should be labelled as "the Laws that we agreed with whilst we were an EU member". We were the EU, and it's worth making that clear. It was just convenient to reduce red tape and agree on common laws together with our most important trading partners.
If you want to know what it looks like when a bunch of laws are changed without proper process, look at what's happening on Twitter right now...
I wouldn't worry too much. They will discover that they'll wish they never opened this can of worms. There are literally 1000s of bits of legislation that have to be reviewed. Some of them I can imagine can be deleted and some others would have to be replaced. But until each and every one are reviewed, there's no way of knowing where we are. They are interwoven and interdependency are so great, it just isn't as easy as hitting 'delete'. We are talking yeeeeears.
That's literally what this video was about. The problem is that the Brexit hardliners don't care about the consequences. They want to see all EU law removed NOW.
I WOULD be worried because that is exactly the way these idiots think. "Get rid of it all and we'll work it out" is exactly the same line that they took with Brexit, "Fuck it, lets leave and I'm sure we'll just figure it all out" look how well that's going.
They have delusions of their own competence.
@@_BloodWork_ Brexiteers will be out of the government by 2024
@@_BloodWork_ irony is we helped create those laws. Allot if them we pushed for.. or wrote haha
This is 40 years of legislation and a lot of it is not simply added on. Some of these laws are pretty fundamental. I wouldn't worry too much. With the state the Tories are in I doubt it'd even be possible even if they went along with this insanity.
Brazil kept the Phillipine Ordonations, a set of laws issued by Phillip II of Spain back in the 17th century when Portugal still wasn't independent, on its books up until 1916. I think the UK can wait a little to get rid of each individual EU law.
That is because, despite all the government's failings, they are not stupid
Uk parlament, on the other hand...less so.
This is like cutting off your route to land when in a sinking ship instead of escaping via THAT route.
So everything is becoming more and more costly than the Brexiteers implied.
All these problems are caused by those who voted for Brexit.
I wonder how many of those who complained about the queues at Dover during the summer were those who voted to leave EU ?
It's just crazy to think that what 10,000 staff at the commission and countless others in member states have created for almost 50 years can be eliminated in just four years by a few hundred civil service employees - I think the 1 year and 350 employee estimate is rather conservative by the business ministry
I love the EU retained law bill. Not only will it cause utter chaos in the UK courts and further stifle investment and economic growth due to uncertainty. It will make it A LOT harder for the UK to ever successfully apply to be considered for membership of the SM/CU ever gain. Let alone EU membership.
Generating chaos is the essence of the whole game.
It boosts the opportunities to move former public money into cosy private pockets.
Hold on I'm trying to understand this. Does the bill make every UK legislation implementing the EU directive null? That is insane!
Yup you got it. It's not even a repeal and replace situation, like say the American healthcare act (attempt) repealing affordable care act/Obamacare
Yesss
6 years after the referendum, we're still in a mess with no end in sight.
but it gives us, the people outside the UK, plenty of reasons to laugh a lot...and to wonder how much more stupid it can get, in the Uak!
The real mess did not start up to now.
You will be impressed within the next years!
And yet Leavers STILL can't name a single of these laws they disagree with. They're so bad they work 🤦. Scrapping not just one law, but thousands, for literally no reason other than a British person didn't make them is the height of jingoist ignorance.
You don't understand. Specific ones aren't the problem, the fact they override what British law would be otherwise is
It's not jingoism, it's from the knowledge EU laws were not made with British interests at heart, but all members conflicting interests at heart. Better to have laws in our own interest
@@michaelwoolley7034 Well, I am not from the UK, nor am I remotely british, but it seems to be that you are oversimplifying a lot of things here. What is "in our own interest" is highly subjective. U could argue that Truss made her plan with British interest at heart, but she utterly failed and made it even worse as far as I can tell. Yes the EU is a mess of infighting. But thats democracy, it is always hard, long and you always have to compromise somewhat. You can argue that it isn't democratic, that your country had to abide by certain standards or laws which the british didn't want. But I will counterargue that britain held a lot of influence on the EU and it's legislation. Laws in the EU aren't made without consent of ALL the countries, that's what the veto is for. You can argue that the british lost some sovereignity in the EU, yeah. But you could also argue that the EU allowed Britain to access a much larger market and gave the british people a lot of freedoms, like traveling to other EU countries without much effort. And at last, what is in britains best interest is very subjective. You can argue that "loosing" access to the EU market hurt britain. U can argue that it created a lot of chaos in britain and has created a huge mess. Therefore was Brexit really in britains best interest? Are all british laws really in britains best interest? What is britains best interest even in the first place. What I want to say with this is, the best interest of a country is highly subjective. It is all just a matter of perspective. Therefore, saying that EU-Laws weren't made with britains best interest at hand is not really a good argument in my mind. Best of Luck to the UK from Germany.
@@blackwingedangel3053 at least you admit the argument we lost sovereignty has something behind it. It's about balancing whether you want absolute sovereignty, or diluted sovereignty in the EU in exchange for a few things like access to a larger market
As for subjectivity of "our own best interest" isn't the point we can decide this for ourselves. Truss was clearly an idiot, even the MPs in her party didn't want her as leader as she was put there by subscribed members, hence losing the MPs grudging support was inevitable after the mini-budget disaster, a self-correction & example of our elected MPs acting in our interest. In the next election, again we can show our views of our self-interest
Uk pulling an Elon musk
I'm just losing count of the Brexit benefits, like..... Errrr.... Ummm..... Ummm?
That not true at all, you can now have the crown stamp back on your pint at the pub
Your great, great, great grandchildren _might_ see economic benefits
@@UmairKhan-ry8jg we Always could.
This is one of those benefits, & it's biased to call it a silly idea when it's not certain they can't make it work
Why else leave the EU if not to repeal & replace its laws? Finally they're starting to work on the most important bits
It's mainly that we now choose the people who make our laws.
Doesn't mean the people we choose will make good decisions, but at least you can sack them in an election. The EU commission is totally unaccountable.
Just like how businesses held off in investing in the UK for six years because they didn't know how hard or soft brexit would be, The UK wants to add another six arguing most of them in parliment. Great job!
Not a day goes by that the EU is not thankful we no longer have to deal with the UK ❤
Indeed :-) at least until they Invest in education again 😅
@@NotUnymous what, even EU schools do better,. So even that's nonsense
we all waiting for the UK to row itself to the pacific ocean, so it becomes a problem for Australia, i heard the Aussies are excited to rejoin the empire as a dominon again!
@@Arltratlo If the UK does that the Australians will use it as a penal colony.
You're right and it's such an embarrassment for us. Not a good time to be British
People like Mogg will never disclose their intentions (transparency as too why they have this agenda)
True, but him not being exactly as smart as his voters think he is, kinda makes his agenda rather predictable. Not that in 2022 one needs to be Macchiavelli to pocket from people's idiocy.
Brexit remains a fool's project
After the UK eventually returns to the EU and the EU fixes the issues that led to the UK's departure, there should be a free movement area implemented throughout the C of N that operates in conjunction with the EU, not only to help the EU get rid of excess population but also to help countries both inside and outside the EU and the C of N get rid of excess population as well. Plus, it should help strengthen ties between both organizations, as the UK, Cyprus, and Malta all function as intermediaries.
@@andrewbloom7637 England should never want to rejoin. Just learn to manage Brexit.
When he said employee rights, I was like ah so that's why they're doing it. For the big business mates.
"We want our sovereignity. We don't mind not having any rights because this is all European culture, and in GB we obey to our better ones because we know our place. Yes, BJ will claim French citizenship but he fought for Brexit like no one before him.. and I am a complete idiot!"
It's completely insane. Even if this was a sensible plan the government and civil service do not have the time or resources to review so many pieces of legislation
I love the logic behind this
"You can't trip anymore if you shoot yourself in the foot"
Yes, surely this will fix ALL of our problems.
So they can get rid of hundreds of laws quickly because they are EU but it's taking God knows how long to legalise electric scooters...
Because its more money to make them illegal unless your a corporation and rent them out to teenagers...
Never heard of that funny enough, kinda strange to think that they could be "illegal" or in any other way compromised. Because in Germany their usage just exploded , more and more people especially children/teenagers but even adults as well are getting them. Every City is obviously full of them especially the kinds to rent but even in my teeny tiny village you start seeing adults and teenagers on their own private ones....despite there not being any place to go apart from neighbouring villages anyway .
@@sejanus855 it's weird because you are allowed to buy them but the police can impound them if they catch you using it in public or fine and put points on your *driving* license 🤦
They can't. Some of these laws are pretty fundamental.
Electric scooters are illegal but car modifications, speeding, revving engine and loud exhaust causing nousiance to the neighborhood is fine
Fair play
Got to love bills which if they were to come out and directly say which laws they believe they need to get rid off to 'unlock the potential of brexit' you know they'll be laws that either parliament (and devolved governments) or the people will actually want to keep. It's all smoke and mirrors.
Why are the government doing this over and over again. Literally just bad decision after bad decision. Feels weird…
Incompetent is the word, not weird.
This is stuff that you can only get from TLDR - keep it up! That said, you were doing so well with the spelling until 8:18 ...
I strongly suspect that the economic turmoil inflicted by this if it goes through will make the aftermath of the mini-budget look like a walk in the park.
UK be like : Economic crisis? hmm.. that ain't enough. Let's add some legislative criss.
A bill backed by Reece Mogg, who dresses anachronistically and embraces chaos; and so is clearly a Batman villain.
Or Odd Job
I mean, the audacity of the English parliament to not even consult the Scots and Welsh is mind-boggling. No wonder there is always such bad blood between them, if this is the unprofessional way the English lawmakers act.
The UK has a parliament with Scottish and Welsh members sitting in it.
Please don't comment on a system you have no knowledge of.
It's worrying that there are laws that have been passed which they didn't know about! Were they blindly signing any bit of paper that was passed to them?
It's not U.K. laws that they didn't know about. It's U.K. laws that they didn't know would be affected by this Bill.
Guys, why is the frame rate all over the place the past few videos? This one is 30fps, the previous days was 24fps and the one before that was 25. Can you upload these in the 50fps that they're shot at? It's very nauseating to watch otherwise
Literally cannot tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, how are you nauseated?
Analog TV that needed sync to grid is long gone, 25 and 50 needs to just shuffle off at this point.
Can we all just settle on multiples of 30? 24 divides nicely into 120, 'just works' with every device on the planet
@@Username-qx9gk except analogue tv is 25 frames... interlaced. I'm a broadcast engineer, what you said is absolute nonsense. The equipment they're filming with will be made for PAL regions, so 50fps. Like it or not, that's how the world is. It doesnt matter what divides in to what anymore, we don't have sync issues. a 40fps video displays completely fine on a 300fps monitor.
But when the video is 50fps, then it gets output at 30fps, it's a blurry jittery mess like this one.
@@helixx4678 then you should check your vision because it's blantely obvious
@@lulzyboy That's what I'm saying, PAL regions in this day and age are dumb. Analog TV was only 25/50 in 50hz power regions. You may as well be arguing overscan should still be a thing in the digital era
Well I don't see them regretting this in the future
You guys are usually quite neutral, so when you seem to take a side, you know things are bad
I'm not sure that being against pure stupidity is taking a side.
Would you consider the choice of initiating a full scale nuclear attack or simply not doing so to be open to taking sides?
@@hewhohasnoidentity4377 Of course it is. We need to move away from the idea that sitting in the middle of two arbitarily chosen points is somehow inherently more factual.
@@XMysticHerox It should be more like the state media does it in Germany, say all the facts and then there own opinion with an text on the screen saying "this is my opinion"
Example: the tori's want to remove all laws, here this is my opinion but it's bloody stupid.
@@hewhohasnoidentity4377 I mean, I never said they were gone to show a less neutral side.
@@makuru_dd3662 Problem with that is that there is no such thing as simply stating facts. You can be factual while giving an opinion but even just which facts you select as a media outlet carries a lot of bias. German state media is quite good really but even here there is still bias present.
So whats the issue with stating an opinion? The best way to deal with bias is acknowledging it. This has long been accepted in academia. The whole neutrality obsession is the opposite of that.
UK has an extremely competent government. What could possibly go wrong?
Great Britain can decide for itself whether the world is still a sphere or a flat disk.
Only when goods are exported from Great Britain to the EU do regulations have to be complied with.
So this will end up with two standards in the UK.
One good standard as in the past for export and a low standard for subjects.
Then in the UK 1 liter is just 750 ml in the pack
Every sensible person knows the world is a tetrahedron. 😀
@@octavianpopescu4776 nah mate, it is a torus
I love this/these channels! Just discovered them a few days ago. Keep up the great work.
I'm not referring to anyone else... but you dumb things down for me, or at least condense them. Much appreciated! Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦
No-one can understand this mess, as evidenced by the fact that the lawmakers don't even know about thousands of laws that exist. The system should be rebooted from first principles.
And I bet Reece-Smug will have been through the laws to see which he and his cronies can make money from....
I am so grateful that I can laugh at those decisions instead of living them.
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I don’t want those idiots to make more decisions, they can’t handle half the ones they have now
Just have Sunak do the review himself first. And then quiz him to make sure he did his homework. I'm sure no one would object to that 😂
I am not even sure they can do that. It is sometimes claimed the UK does not have a constitution but that does not mean there are not principles and rules to how lawmaking (and deleting) goes.
You can't just scrap a law without a parliamentary vote, and you certainly can't scrap hundreds of them in one go without parliament going over each and everyone of them.
This isn't going end well
This is why all countries should have a codified constitution, which can be changed if people get enough signatures or if parliament/congress has a 70% vote in both houses. In both cases, it would go to voters and need a 50% turnout and 55% voting yes for a change.
The UK Brexit "plan" have been one long "hold my beer..." moment. This is just another step of that.
It's stupid to remove all law from EU just because they were from the EU. Obviously you need to sit down and evaluate every single one one by one over years and years of policy making.
U.K. is like an EX-girlfriend who broke up with you, regrets it and keep burning all good memories you had together... 🤣🤣🤣
Yup Britain is now a developing country.
Always has been ;D
@@k.umquat8604 XD fair point
There are no EU laws, that have always been UK laws.
Back then they were 28 member laws with Germany, England and France having the biggest input.
i wish i had enough money to leave this country. instead it's going to kill me with human rights abuses while i live freezing and hungry while being told that rich people deserve more.
You wil be able to warm yourself burning all the law books that have become obsolete and useless.
Been driving about with a trailer for over a year now, I thought this was already the case?
Makes you want a GE sooner than later.
To be honest I thought they already done this when they transferred all EU laws over to English law and then modified them to fit current English legislation.
Why am I not surprised JRM is involved in this absolute lunacy.
Once again, TLDR is exceptionally factual, exceptionally relevant. What is more, here we have the reason why the US and most other countries and regional economic agreements have for two years refused to start or conclude negotiations on trade agreements with the UK. And why British aspirations for such agreements will remain vain for many years to come. Furthermore, the EU might do the same and even withdraw from trade agreements. If not Westminister, the Welsh and Scottish parliaments have understood that.
Just a heads up, the 'double-d' in "Senedd" is pronounced like the 'th' in "the" or "father".
Those time estimates for reviewing all affected legislation seem low, given said civil servants would also need to be spending time, ya know, running the government.
When Truss stepped down I mentioned that every PM managed to do more harm in less time. So it seemes the found ways to do that.
Some things, should such a bill go thru, is easy to guess: there would be a surge of people/organisations that would jump to take as much as they can in the legal vacuum that would ensue, before the politicians can react. As in grabbing everything you can and make a run for it.
If this bill gets trough with the mentioned dates you will see a markets reaction that will dwarf the one to the Minibudget easily. The pound will plummet and the mortgages will skyrocket.