If you're a professional musician and the choice is a $20,000 vintage strat or one of these, it's much safer to bring an American Original strat because it's easily replaceable.
@@Ironworthstriking Most professional musicians don’t have that choice, me included. Most of us have £1700 guitars that we would worry about going missing at gigs!
3 Years to the day since they put this video up and I still love watching how these guys are together. I bought my 60's Strat after watching this video and I have not played a guitar I love more before or since.
I bought the American Original tele, partly due to this video...It is unbelievably good. Such a beautifully crafted instrument, effortless to play and an abundance of classic tone. I can't put it down. Thanks guys
I have the same Jaguar in sunburst and it has become my favourite guitar. It is an incredible instrument, there is something about it that makes me not want to put it down. My band play anything from country to punk and hard rock and this guitar has never let me down. I use a TS mini and a Catalinbread Katzenkoenig for overdrive and lead distortion respectively and it's hard to get a bad sound out of it. No problems with the stock bridge either.
The american original 50s strat is what got me loving strats again, every pickup position sounds like a proper nice strat, Everything about the guitar is superb. The bridge pickup as neville said can go from fender twang to Angus p.a.f sound, it's true.
Very good and musically played! Great information! I own the 60s in sunburst and I am also very happy with it! One of the best Strats I everhad - and, I had around 400 in my life! Many Pre-CBS guitars! This new one is perfect! Best regards, Werner
sure, won't be terrified of a near 2k guitar going missing. only guitar i won't be afraid of going missing too much (it will still hurt) is a bullet strat.
They look and sound great!!! The Telecaster sounded the best, as usual, and his playing was wonderful, going for clear tone, rather than distorted or synthetic sounds. I cringe when guitar demos use distortion, because that just hides the character of their sound. I'm still planning on getting a Squire classic vibe 50's Telecaster, because it's almost identical. I'm also thinking about getting a top-loading bridge, or rather a bridge that allows either/or. That way I can top-wrap the wound strings, and string-through the plain strings, for better sustain. When I top wrapped my LP Special, the plain strings were too weak, so only top-wrapping the wound strings solved that. Great demonstrations guys, but the Chinese Squires are so nicely made, and electronics and hardware easy to switch...
Pharmer David are you serious :P epiphone is chinese made, has shitty electronics, a short tenon, polyurethane finished, and crappy quality control. Can't compare to a the calibre of the Fender Original series. If Gibson did a cheaper Les Paul with custom shop specs that would make more sense
You cannot compare a Fender to a Gibson because of the way they're constructed. Gibson glues in their necks, carved maple cap on top, binding and inlayed logos. Just the sheer amount of time to let for example the binding glues set and so on are much more labour- and time-consuming processes. That's why Gibson brought out the Studio and Faded models... You can't have a Rolls Royce for the price of a Ford...
Son you don't own a Gibson if you make a comment like that. I own three Gibson guitars and two Fender guitars (one of them is the Strat in this video in candy red) and to be honest the Gibson quality is better and the sex appeal of the Gibson is higher.
Lol that exhale Nev does when he first played the Jaguar, know that feeling so well... "oh dear I'm now gassing for this guitar, goodbye to another £1800" can tell that was the exact feeling coming from him!! .... Great video, surprisingly good looking and sounding instruments.
This tele looks so close to a mim Baja tele. Compare the two, even the tint on the neck and body, exact same hue. Its like the Baja was so good they decided to make it the top of the line american vintage style tele.
I love anything that Neville does - he’s one of my hero’s! As always, excellent playing, excellent video quality, sound and details. Nice watch Jamie - is it a Hamilton or something else.....
I wanted to buy this strat and tried it out in the store yesterday. Then I compared it to a few custom shops that hung on the wall, put the original again where it was and left sadly to look for more money.
As always great detailed review especially in terms of practical scenarios and players perspectives. But it would be great if Fender had put the same price tag on them as the American Professional series
Loved the Video .i would be worried about my Fender 60s original being stolen ..only one I have and need .probably better quality than the ones Leo Fender brought out of the factory ..Most of the great strat sounds have been ones bought from music or pawn shops ..not custom shop stuff ..All the so called vintage guitar sounds were made by new stuff and amps to ..Lot of it is great marketing and in the mind to ..Best telecaster I have ever played is a Vintage icon ..been made into a Wilko Johnson Tele replica ..Beautiful big sounding instrument ..To be honest if I was out on the road again I would get a vintage Thomas Blug strat to ..Keep up the great work to ..loved the demo
Well said, regarding the flatter radii and larger frets. I have been playing Fenders for 57+ years, and I have been after Fender for a long time, to give us the great guitar-making methods of times past, with more contemporary-appropriate playability. However, I wonder if you know how the old Telecaster wiring really worked? James Burton played it quite well. 1. Bridge PUP. 2. NOTCH: both PUPS out-of-phase (a push-pull pot could give both) 3.(Middle Switch) Neck PUP treble 4. Neck PUP Bassy, dependent upon tone cap. The Jaguar was the next thing after the Jazzmasters. But in culture, I guess you are right, regarding after the "excitement" of the Stratocaster. And imagine a Jaguar with an added Clapton tone circuit! And back in the late '50s, early '60s, bands played rhythm guitar with a bassy tonality, to fill in the middle. Give a listen to the original "Sleep Walk."
Play guitar down at 'River Cottage' Who knew Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall could play guitar like that... Yes I know silly joke. I'm passionately in love with that Strat though. Looks, sound, everything.
Are some fender guitars (50's originals/custom shop etc) built using the original tooling from the period they represent? Great review...my 50s Original Telecaster arrives today. 😉😵😵💫
I purchased the American original '50s because I really liked the fatter neck. I also think the stock pickups are just as good if not better than all the other brands out there. My main question is why do telecasters always stay in tune so well ?
Some of the earliest Broadcasters actually had 9.5" fingerboards and a nice hand full of a neck. I have a refinished one and it is a far better player than my 90's AVRI '52 tele.
Ribbon or condensor microphones have a rather flat response. Although they are very good microphones, they are NOT the mikes to amplify a guitar. What I hear in my headphones is a darker sound, not typical strat. Just use a sm 57 and it will sound much better.
Interesting.....but there is something special about playing the actual replica of saythe 59 or 65 strat which purists like myself older guys like...I understand it from a marketing strategy though.
‘The radius are things modern players cant deal w’. Didnt stop hendrix or george harrison from making music better than anything those modern players are putting out. If a guitar is only as good as its set up a 7.25 inch radius is fine. But I’m someone who needs that little bit of fight so idk.
Why don’t fender ever tint the necks of these guitars. That tele would be gorgeous were it not for that anaemia looking neck. Seems you can only get that effect if you buy a 5 k custom shop model or an MIM model
look for an old (used obviously) ‘62 or ‘52 reissue, lots on reverb. I had ‘62 reissue hot rod strat that had that yellowed tint on the lacquer, had a big ol’ fat neck too. there’s literally thousands of those reissues on the used market, fender ran that series for a good long time.
김기태 better? Thats so subjective its impossible to say. I personally like a maple neck and the lower output of the 50s pickups so i would go for a 50s strat
50's Strat: maple fretboard, "V" neck shape 60's Strat: rosewood fretboard, "C" neck shape There are other more minor differences (pickups, finishes, &c), but those are the ones that matter the most because they affect playing feel.
Nice playing, nice looking guitars, vintage vibe with modern appointments, but not really impressive in terms of tone and most of all quality/price. I'd rather save some more and go for a CS model, possibly pre-owned.
Do you think the brand new ones were aged amber colour when they were sold in the 50's? Maple is a pale wood, and clear coat over it will be pale. I'm more concerned about the pumpkin colour of the body - it's like they went true vintage with the neck, then went with the fake-aged orange on the body from the pre 2012 AVRI's.
Brent Wade Oh ok I didn’t know that so that makes me like the pale necks more now. But how come some of the old ones have that orangey color on the neck how does that occur? And I’ve always wondered why some rosewood boards are a little shiny and some are super shiny and some aren’t and just look kinda dry.
They add amber to some to give them an aged look, but all of them will darken over time...especially with exposure to sunlight. Rosewood - that comes down to each individual piece of wood, but also some people treat them with oils to protect them and dye to darken them.
The strat sounds muddy. The Tele also hasn´t enough twang. This Fender Blues Junior Amp with a Custom Shop Cab isn´t the right amp for vintage Fender sound.
Anyone else wish fender would use completely modern upgraded appointments and then just use vintage pickups and finishing methods? Nice guitars though!
Sorta like the elite models only vintage finishes and pickups. Maybe ditch the s1 switching to drop the price. Vintage vibes without vintage obstacles.
Exactly what kind of spec do you have in mind when you ask about 'modern upgraded appointments'? Fender offer loads of modern feeling variations on classic designs (in terms of neck profiles, bridge options, fretboard radius, fret wire, etc). I can't help but feel that there's a gap in their range when it comes to offering more vintage spec (with a few modern components to aid, for example, tuning) on non-customshop models. For start, why can't they make a production Tele with large neck profile (U would be good), lightweight ash body, nitro finish, a six saddle bridge, and 9.5 inch radius? More people are looking for less poly and larger necks! I don't care too much about pickups - they can always be replaced. I think you definitely have a point about finishing methods though; I would love to see more guitars with nitro as standard. As for the Elite Strats and Teles, they look very tempting (I thought about getting one), but the body contours are a step too far, and the neck is too thin. The position of the truss rod adjustment also looks bad to a lot of people.
Monty Cantsin This is my preferred spec: Neck Modern C (or multi options) 9.5" - 14"or 12" 22 fret Truss rod wheel (utility) or standard truss rod (aesthetics) Hardware 2 Saddle mastery style bridge (tele and jag/jazzmaster) Modern 6 saddle bridge (strat and tele) Locking tuners Body Neck plate contours for higher fret access with ease. Nitro finish over both classic pastel colours and some modern options. Pickups Low-med output vintage inspired. Frets are undecided for me personally. Essentially put all the modern functional aspects in place, then add the vintage colours, finish and pickups in. To me that's the best of both worlds.
I would be happy to go along with most of the spec you've outlined. 9.5 inch radius is good, 6 saddle bridge is much better for intonation (I really think purists are too hung up on three brass barrels being the holy grail for Teles; I'd rather be in tune), locking tuners are a plus. I would go for 6105 or 6150 fret wire myself; jumbo frets feel better. My point still stands though: Don't Fender already make instruments that match the features you prefer (with the exception of good vintage voiced pickups), or have you really found it difficult to get a Strat or Tele that suits your needs?
Monty Cantsin I've found they get close but then do something that always puts me off. I'm considering a deluxe Nashville tele but I've had some trouble with the MIM fretwork. Elite teles are out of my reach for the next while.
I know the maple neck's gonna age ...... but for now it looks like a squier to be honest, why'd fender have to phase out the American vintage series, those were WAY better
Very nice guitars without doubt but imo they could be viewed as "budget" Custom Shop type instruments or over priced "Classic Player" . Watch the impending scramble for the Vintage Re-issues on the second hand market unfold ...
Why is Fender still making that 6-point bridge? It goes out of tune way more easily than the 2-point. The Tele body and neck colors don't match very well. They sound pretty good, and it's great that if you want to relic them, they let yo do that yourself; just get a screwdriver, a hammer, and a cigarette, and you don't have to pay a whole lot extra.
mel obrien the 2 point doesn't have the body and sustain as the 6 point...and I think you are the tuning problem buddy as I have quite a few strats (actually 8) and 2 had the 2 points and those were soon swapped for 6 pointers as they lost tuning and sustain so rapidly
Cool guitars, but why spend time blathering about: 'over time, the guitar will age'. May as well say: 'the guitar is made out of wood and metal and the sound is played through an amplifier'.
Because a nitrocellulose finish, as these guitars have (at least the topcoat), will acquire marks of age a lot more naturally than, say, a poly finish which will tend to stay unblemished longer but may remain a bit too glossy and new looking for some tastes ten years on. It's just something that some people like, so that's why we mentioned it.
Real guitarists play 7. 25 and play well. Wussie guitarists of today whine and cry, mommy I cant play 7. 25 fenders. Please tell Fender to sell us 9. 25 necks and call them vintage originals and jack the price up.
Has it ever occurred to you that there are players out there that like telecasters with a fatter neck? It's a real thing. Thanks for your lame comment 4 years ago
You wouldn’t be worried about a £1700 guitar going missing at a gig? You guys are living in a different world to me.
If you're a professional musician and the choice is a $20,000 vintage strat or one of these, it's much safer to bring an American Original strat because it's easily replaceable.
@@Ironworthstriking Most professional musicians don’t have that choice, me included. Most of us have £1700 guitars that we would worry about going missing at gigs!
@@ZillianZilch well they’re talking to the musicians with vintage guitars. That’s the point they’re making.
You know how they saying; when it's raining, you roll up the window.
3 Years to the day since they put this video up and I still love watching how these guys are together. I bought my 60's Strat after watching this video and I have not played a guitar I love more before or since.
How is she aging? What color you bought?
@@sergiomozdzenskijr.9246 good question 🙋
Yeah they are proper guitar lovers with serious knowledge, neville martin has been with them since I started reading in 98.
@@sergiomozdzenskijr.9246 hi Sergio! I got an Olympic white one, just like the one in the video!
@Jonathan Catterall is it aging?
Can you two start a podcast? This is the most calming video I've ever watched. Great stuff.
I bought the American Original tele, partly due to this video...It is unbelievably good. Such a beautifully crafted instrument, effortless to play and an abundance of classic tone. I can't put it down. Thanks guys
Love these guys. Professionals at work. Tasteful playing and, thanks god, no distortion.
Much prefer this style of video from Guitarist magazine. Nice to have a review insight rather than the standard playing demo.
Please more videos like this. It was excellent. Finally a video where they don't just make jokes out of the Jag/Jazz.
Nice short n sweet video,two adults calmly reviewing and playing three 'new' products.
I have the same Jaguar in sunburst and it has become my favourite guitar. It is an incredible instrument, there is something about it that makes me not want to put it down. My band play anything from country to punk and hard rock and this guitar has never let me down. I use a TS mini and a Catalinbread Katzenkoenig for overdrive and lead distortion respectively and it's hard to get a bad sound out of it. No problems with the stock bridge either.
The american original 50s strat is what got me loving strats again, every pickup position sounds like a proper nice strat, Everything about the guitar is superb. The bridge pickup as neville said can go from fender twang to Angus p.a.f sound, it's true.
That Tele sounds incredible. Sublime tone, really.
There aren't much "talkative" video-reviews on guitars online. This was the kind I was looking for before jumping at a new Fender
Very good and musically played! Great information! I own the 60s in sunburst and I am also very happy with it! One of the best Strats I everhad - and, I had around 400 in my life! Many Pre-CBS guitars! This new one is perfect! Best regards, Werner
Hey Neville you bought my CS 60 NOS Strat off Rolly guitars i was delighted when I read you own it now 😎👍
What a great review. I might be buying a second hand 60's strat shortly, based off this.
Great pickups on those guitars 🎸🎶 🎶 🎶
They understand what the 60's strat is exactly. It is serious and best review!
sure, won't be terrified of a near 2k guitar going missing. only guitar i won't be afraid of going missing too much (it will still hurt) is a bullet strat.
Yeah I mean 2K? I wouldn’t even bother looking.
The frets definitely don't feel vintage which I'm glad for. These are great... I'm looking forward to getting one whenever it is that I get one.
Definitely one of the best guitar channels
That strat with a maple neck!!!!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!
That body/pickkguard color combo is amazing!
Webgkil I love Maple necks on Fenders.....just looks better in my opinion
They look and sound great!!! The Telecaster sounded the best, as usual, and his playing was wonderful, going for clear tone, rather than distorted or synthetic sounds. I cringe when guitar demos use distortion, because that just hides the character of their sound. I'm still planning on getting a Squire classic vibe 50's Telecaster, because it's almost identical. I'm also thinking about getting a top-loading bridge, or rather a bridge that allows either/or. That way I can top-wrap the wound strings, and string-through the plain strings, for better sustain. When I top wrapped my LP Special, the plain strings were too weak, so only top-wrapping the wound strings solved that. Great demonstrations guys, but the Chinese Squires are so nicely made, and electronics and hardware easy to switch...
Gibson could learn a lot from Fender. Offer classic designs, sensibly updated, made beautifully and priced well.
They do - it's called "Epiphone".
Pharmer David are you serious :P epiphone is chinese made, has shitty electronics, a short tenon, polyurethane finished, and crappy quality control. Can't compare to a the calibre of the Fender Original series. If Gibson did a cheaper Les Paul with custom shop specs that would make more sense
You cannot compare a Fender to a Gibson because of the way they're constructed. Gibson glues in their necks, carved maple cap on top, binding and inlayed logos. Just the sheer amount of time to let for example the binding glues set and so on are much more labour- and time-consuming processes. That's why Gibson brought out the Studio and Faded models... You can't have a Rolls Royce for the price of a Ford...
Son you don't own a Gibson if you make a comment like that. I own three Gibson guitars and two Fender guitars (one of them is the Strat in this video in candy red) and to be honest the Gibson quality is better and the sex appeal of the Gibson is higher.
Sweet N' Tender Hooligans nope that is false as none of those "labor intensive" facets you mentioned is anyway labor intensive
Top notch playing and Nev is a total diamond geezer,kudos to Guitarist magazine from a Paddy in Texas...
Lol that exhale Nev does when he first played the Jaguar, know that feeling so well... "oh dear I'm now gassing for this guitar, goodbye to another £1800" can tell that was the exact feeling coming from him!! .... Great video, surprisingly good looking and sounding instruments.
Haha, you know us too well!
I bought that same guitar today. $1870.00
playing starts at 9:31 for the strat
Very NICELY done Fender!
DMSProduktions I
The 1st idiot joins us!
This tele looks so close to a mim Baja tele. Compare the two, even the tint on the neck and body, exact same hue. Its like the Baja was so good they decided to make it the top of the line american vintage style tele.
I want that Jaguar! My first good guitar was a 60's Jaguar with natural finish and tortoise shell pickguard.
Everything you guys were saying is spot on. Good reviews. I will watch more often.
I love anything that Neville does - he’s one of my hero’s!
As always, excellent playing, excellent video quality, sound and details.
Nice watch Jamie - is it a Hamilton or something else.....
Tokyo997 it’s a Helgray watch - thanks for the kind words.
I wanted to buy this strat and tried it out in the store yesterday. Then I compared it to a few custom shops that hung on the wall, put the original again where it was and left sadly to look for more money.
that white strat 😍
As always great detailed review especially in terms of practical scenarios and players perspectives. But it would be great if Fender had put the same price tag on them as the American Professional series
That tele is 🔥
Loving this demo so far! Will you be covering the 60s Tele in another demo / review...? :)
Loved the Video .i would be worried about my Fender 60s original being stolen ..only one I have and need .probably better quality than the ones Leo Fender brought out of the factory ..Most of the great strat sounds have been ones bought from music or pawn shops ..not custom shop stuff ..All the so called vintage guitar sounds were made by new stuff and amps to ..Lot of it is great marketing and in the mind to ..Best telecaster I have ever played is a Vintage icon ..been made into a Wilko Johnson Tele replica ..Beautiful big sounding instrument ..To be honest if I was out on the road again I would get a vintage Thomas Blug strat to ..Keep up the great work to ..loved the demo
Loving the new style video
Nice to see Jamie in a video again!
Excellent straight forward review of these guitars.
Well said, regarding the flatter radii and larger frets. I have been playing Fenders for 57+ years, and I have been after Fender for a long time, to give us the great guitar-making methods of times past, with more contemporary-appropriate playability. However, I wonder if you know how the old Telecaster wiring really worked? James Burton played it quite well. 1. Bridge PUP. 2. NOTCH: both PUPS out-of-phase (a push-pull pot could give both) 3.(Middle Switch) Neck PUP treble 4. Neck PUP Bassy, dependent upon tone cap.
The Jaguar was the next thing after the Jazzmasters. But in culture, I guess you are right, regarding after the "excitement" of the Stratocaster. And imagine a Jaguar with an added Clapton tone circuit! And back in the late '50s, early '60s, bands played rhythm guitar with a bassy tonality, to fill in the middle. Give a listen to the original "Sleep Walk."
Play guitar down at 'River Cottage' Who knew Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall could play guitar like that...
Yes I know silly joke. I'm passionately in love with that Strat though. Looks, sound, everything.
natrelacoustix and it’s all organic, locally sourced music, too!
That's what I call a review!
the last solo in awesome!!
Nice presentation!
Would you, please make a video with 60's tele?
Thank you!
The opening lead guitar by Neville had great tone and phrasing.
sold!
"If you get used to a guitar like this, it could be your best friend" ; )
Are some fender guitars (50's originals/custom shop etc) built using the original tooling from the period they represent? Great review...my 50s Original Telecaster arrives today. 😉😵😵💫
I purchased the American original '50s because I really liked the fatter neck. I also think the stock pickups are just as good if not better than all the other brands out there. My main question is why do telecasters always stay in tune so well ?
Well, there’s no vibrato mechanism to pull the strings out of tune.
I would be absolutely livid if my Original series strat got stolen cos it's better than 99% of Fenders made .
I wish they were still making a whiteguard Tele.
Great video guys.
Nice playin.
Some of the earliest Broadcasters actually had 9.5" fingerboards and a nice hand full of a neck. I have a refinished one and it is a far better player than my 90's AVRI '52 tele.
For people who want a faithful re-issue, but really don't want a faithful re-issue.
MILES better style of video!!
really want that jag so bad!
Once released please review the Marshall Origin..
WHY did I see this video??? That Olympic white with that mint guard is SEX!!!!
Well.. It's my favourite
Ribbon or condensor microphones have a rather flat response. Although they are very good microphones, they are NOT the mikes to amplify a guitar.
What I hear in my headphones is a darker sound, not typical strat. Just use a sm 57 and it will sound much better.
Definitely thought he said "coke sniffers" when he said "cork sniffers" @6:05
Which overdrive do you use in 9:30 and following? Thanks in advance.
Interesting.....but there is something special about playing the actual replica of saythe 59 or 65 strat which purists like myself older guys like...I understand it from a marketing strategy though.
‘The radius are things modern players cant deal w’. Didnt stop hendrix or george harrison from making music better than anything those modern players are putting out. If a guitar is only as good as its set up a 7.25 inch radius is fine. But I’m someone who needs that little bit of fight so idk.
Can I have all three please?
those are a bit pricey, but they have everything I want from a strat. I might wait a sec and save some money for a new guitar after all
Why don’t fender ever tint the necks of these guitars. That tele would be gorgeous were it not for that anaemia looking neck. Seems you can only get that effect if you buy a 5 k custom shop model or an MIM model
look for an old (used obviously) ‘62 or ‘52 reissue, lots on reverb. I had ‘62 reissue hot rod strat that had that yellowed tint on the lacquer, had a big ol’ fat neck too. there’s literally thousands of those reissues on the used market, fender ran that series for a good long time.
So can anyone tell me what’d be better choice between 50s or 60s strat? I know it’s stupid question, but I’m really hesitated now...
김기태 better? Thats so subjective its impossible to say. I personally like a maple neck and the lower output of the 50s pickups so i would go for a 50s strat
50's Strat: maple fretboard, "V" neck shape
60's Strat: rosewood fretboard, "C" neck shape
There are other more minor differences (pickups, finishes, &c), but those are the ones that matter the most because they affect playing feel.
Nice playing, nice looking guitars, vintage vibe with modern appointments, but not really impressive in terms of tone and most of all quality/price. I'd rather save some more and go for a CS model, possibly pre-owned.
frantisca r
You'll get the same pickups in a CS though, unless you want to go after-market.
If it makes you feel any better I had a custom shop and I thought the tone wasn't half as good as the original 50s
The neck pickup on that Tele sounds more stratty than the one on the strat!
Why are the new fender necks so depressingly pale :( I like the vintage tinted color when it's like orangey
You can always get a classic vibe Squier
lptomtom nothing wrong with that....
Do you think the brand new ones were aged amber colour when they were sold in the 50's? Maple is a pale wood, and clear coat over it will be pale. I'm more concerned about the pumpkin colour of the body - it's like they went true vintage with the neck, then went with the fake-aged orange on the body from the pre 2012 AVRI's.
Brent Wade Oh ok I didn’t know that so that makes me like the pale necks more now. But how come some of the old ones have that orangey color on the neck how does that occur? And I’ve always wondered why some rosewood boards are a little shiny and some are super shiny and some aren’t and just look kinda dry.
They add amber to some to give them an aged look, but all of them will darken over time...especially with exposure to sunlight. Rosewood - that comes down to each individual piece of wood, but also some people treat them with oils to protect them and dye to darken them.
Can I hear a bit of Mark Knopfler in your playing there , Nevile ?
The strat sounds muddy. The Tele also hasn´t enough twang. This Fender Blues Junior Amp with a Custom Shop Cab isn´t the right amp for vintage Fender sound.
Anyone else wish fender would use completely modern upgraded appointments and then just use vintage pickups and finishing methods?
Nice guitars though!
Sorta like the elite models only vintage finishes and pickups. Maybe ditch the s1 switching to drop the price.
Vintage vibes without vintage obstacles.
Exactly what kind of spec do you have in mind when you ask about 'modern upgraded appointments'? Fender offer loads of modern feeling variations on classic designs (in terms of neck profiles, bridge options, fretboard radius, fret wire, etc). I can't help but feel that there's a gap in their range when it comes to offering more vintage spec (with a few modern components to aid, for example, tuning) on non-customshop models. For start, why can't they make a production Tele with large neck profile (U would be good), lightweight ash body, nitro finish, a six saddle bridge, and 9.5 inch radius? More people are looking for less poly and larger necks! I don't care too much about pickups - they can always be replaced. I think you definitely have a point about finishing methods though; I would love to see more guitars with nitro as standard. As for the Elite Strats and Teles, they look very tempting (I thought about getting one), but the body contours are a step too far, and the neck is too thin. The position of the truss rod adjustment also looks bad to a lot of people.
Monty Cantsin
This is my preferred spec:
Neck
Modern C (or multi options)
9.5" - 14"or 12"
22 fret
Truss rod wheel (utility) or standard truss rod (aesthetics)
Hardware
2 Saddle mastery style bridge (tele and jag/jazzmaster)
Modern 6 saddle bridge (strat and tele)
Locking tuners
Body
Neck plate contours for higher fret access with ease.
Nitro finish over both classic pastel colours and some modern options.
Pickups
Low-med output vintage inspired.
Frets are undecided for me personally.
Essentially put all the modern functional aspects in place, then add the vintage colours, finish and pickups in. To me that's the best of both worlds.
I would be happy to go along with most of the spec you've outlined. 9.5 inch radius is good, 6 saddle bridge is much better for intonation (I really think purists are too hung up on three brass barrels being the holy grail for Teles; I'd rather be in tune), locking tuners are a plus. I would go for 6105 or 6150 fret wire myself; jumbo frets feel better. My point still stands though: Don't Fender already make instruments that match the features you prefer (with the exception of good vintage voiced pickups), or have you really found it difficult to get a Strat or Tele that suits your needs?
Monty Cantsin I've found they get close but then do something that always puts me off. I'm considering a deluxe Nashville tele but I've had some trouble with the MIM fretwork. Elite teles are out of my reach for the next while.
A grand more to beat up a brand new guitar before you even get it.... The Cu$tom $hop has quite a racket going. 🤪
I know the maple neck's gonna age ...... but for now it looks like a squier to be honest, why'd fender have to phase out the American vintage series, those were WAY better
Wine tasting vibes.
UGH Fender stay out of my wallet... !
throws money*
Real men have 7.25 inches.....everything else is just lies.
Mike from breaking bad is alive !
Very nice guitars without doubt but imo they could be viewed as "budget" Custom Shop type instruments or over priced "Classic Player" . Watch the impending scramble for the Vintage Re-issues on the second hand market unfold ...
Push your glasses up Jamie!
I've bought new ones! Less heavy...
Beware of rolled edged " vintage correct" fretboards
Poor colour choices in this range unfortunately.
Why is Fender still making that 6-point bridge? It goes out of tune way more easily than the 2-point. The Tele body and neck colors don't match very well. They sound pretty good, and it's great that if you want to relic them, they let yo do that yourself; just get a screwdriver, a hammer, and a cigarette, and you don't have to pay a whole lot extra.
mel obrien the 2 point doesn't have the body and sustain as the 6 point...and I think you are the tuning problem buddy as I have quite a few strats (actually 8) and 2 had the 2 points and those were soon swapped for 6 pointers as they lost tuning and sustain so rapidly
Cool guitars, but why spend time blathering about: 'over time, the guitar will age'. May as well say: 'the guitar is made out of wood and metal and the sound is played through an amplifier'.
Because a nitrocellulose finish, as these guitars have (at least the topcoat), will acquire marks of age a lot more naturally than, say, a poly finish which will tend to stay unblemished longer but may remain a bit too glossy and new looking for some tastes ten years on. It's just something that some people like, so that's why we mentioned it.
belle chitarre e belle spiegazioni.. peccato per i suoni modesti davvero brutti
except these arent originals
This gets as serious as a political debate on TV to me. Nice review but lacks Dan & Mick kind of fun ! ;-)
No way are those original series worth twice the price as my american special series. A fool and his money.........
Real guitarists play 7. 25 and play well. Wussie guitarists of today whine and cry, mommy I cant play 7. 25 fenders. Please tell Fender to sell us 9. 25 necks and call them vintage originals and jack the price up.
Has it ever occurred to you that there are players out there that like telecasters with a fatter neck? It's a real thing. Thanks for your lame comment 4 years ago
Nice guitars, dull video