St Columb Road / Roche / Bugle / Luxulyan Request Stops
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- It's time to tick off some more request stops! There are four on the 'Atlantic Coast' line between Par and Newquay down in Cornwall, so I started bright on early on a gorgeous summer day, to tick them off, like this ...
The Devon & Cornwall Railway Partnership have an excellent website (for all their branchline actually) for this line with more information about visiting : dcrp.org.uk/li...
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Loved the driver's reaction when he recognised you!
It was a very funny moment! SHOUT OUT to John, if you’re out there reading this right now!!
"No Pacers Here!" Quality
@@nixcails Especially in the West Country accent! "No Pacerrrs 'ere!"
Fact about Luxulyan. In 1990, it was once served by a train, consisting of one power car, and nothing else!
Ok, it's more than that. A Newquay to Paddington HST was stopped when the lead power car derailed, and as the train could travel no further, the staff got the passengers, and their luggage etc, into the rear power car, and they uncoupled it. It then went back to the nearest station, Luxulyan. There, police were waiting to assist with passengers onto coaches, to take them to Par. The power car done two shuttles. Three weeks after that incident, Video 125 filmed the Par - Newquay branch from the cab of a conventional DMU, for their drivers eye view DVD "Cornish Branches"
You need at least 2 carriages (or a loco and one carriage) for it to be a train.
I have seen single carriages (not trains) serve on my local line.
@@millomweb you seem to be creating a controversy here sounds like a "train station" to me.
@@millomweb So a class 153 isn't a train? Can't agree with you there. In the rule book, anything powered, that runs on rails, is a train, including a light engine.
Interesting stuff. I remember the derailment but didn't know about the "power car shuttles". Sounds like there's a few unique happenings involved. I'm sure it'll be the only time a lone HST power car has worked a passenger train on the mainline but there will be other "only time that ......." things about this unusual working. I wonder if anyone got photos?
@@tonyskinner1643 What's a 'train station' ? Do you mean a railway station ?
Geoff, you’re not the only one - a bugle at Bugle! That delightful interaction with the driver - does that happen a lot with you, you getting enthusiastically recognized by staff?
A bugle at Bugle? What about marching in March in March? I did a vlog “March in March” last year just before all the covid nonsense started.
"The ain't no Pacers 'ere my 'aandsome..." ah Cornwall
When I lived in Plumpton Green, East Sussex, the driver literally forgot to stop at the station. We did request it, he just forgot! So they ended up paying for a taxi home for me and another passenger! Lol
If you let us know you could have come in for a cuppa at Bugle! Can see the station from my home! Haha
Next time! 😜😎
@@geofftech2 I'm sure you'd get quite a few offers if you let people know your plans of lines/stations etc. you're about to cover!
I was born and grew up in St Austell, and as young teens sometimes we would ride our bikes to Luxulyan and go up to the viaduct. And since water still ran across it, there was a sluice gate at one end that could be opened to let water drain out and down the hill towards the river. Being the little scallywags that we were, one time we decided it would be a good idea to open it and watch the water cascade down the hill. On a later visit, they had removed the handle so it couldn't be turned without using a big spanner/adjustable wrench. Foiled.
Plus we used to like going up there because it was used in Omen 3 : The Final Conflict where one of the monks gets thrown off the top by a horse and lands in the river, and another gets ripped apart by a big pack of angry beagles at Damien's command .. "Take him" lol.
In Germany thre is a request stop Button on many trains on lines that have request stops
This is a rare sight where Geoff goes to 4 Request stops in a row!
rare site
@@joesos yes *site*
Yes indeed, SpAnI...
Ima stop right there
hehehehe
Yeah, it is a rare sight.
In Denmark the request stops has a botton installed that you push in order to make the train stup, well actually its two because there is one for each direction. On the trains it works like a bus where you push the botton to make the train stop.
That field scene with the wind turbine was beautiful. As nice a painting of a windmill in the Netherlands from 100.years ago.
Re: the crossing. (I believe) It’ll get activated/lowered automatically as a train approaches, if it’s a stopping train it stays down while the train performs the station stop. The red flashing light changes to a white flashing light to inform the driver it has lowered.
My local branch line, Par to Luxulyan has some epic scenery for a railway, also a good spot to watch trains whilst out for a walk exploring the valley, aqueduct and its ruins 😎👊🏻👍🏻
Used to be great going down the branch with class 47's on Inter-City trains back in the day.
Loved this one. Geoff I suggest a series “all the stations with semaphore signals”.
St Columb Road used get off here off here when we couldn't fit in the car when camping with mum and dad. They drove sis and I took the train. Memories.
Glad to have you back in Cornwall. That was a great book signing you both had in Liskeard.
Yes it was!
All these stops are all clean a neat. Well done Britain. You should see New York city.
Green Road station (appeared on Geoff's map in this video) is noted for being 'well-kept'. Some locals 'maintain it' including the addition of flower baskets etc.
Until the recent resignalling, the nuclear waste trains serving Sizewell had to stop and activate crossings on the East Suffolk line. You'd encounter a pair of 37s with a nuclear container, just idling away at a station, while they did it.
Bless you for your wonderful, silly, delightful obsession!
If more people had something like this, the world would be so much more interesting and fun!
Love the camera falling over. Classic! Best video. Thanks Geoff.
it was very funny ... i actually swore, but i cut that bit out!
Oh shoot, allotments. I feel a sudden urge to drink
Explain the joke to a foreigner plz
@@AndreyRubtsovRU Geoff made a bingo card for his "London's Lost Railways" videos (with the spaces being things like "allotments" or "nothing left to see"). Some commenters joked about making a drinking game of it.
On the subject of allotments, the Bexley - Sidcup line runs alongside one or two. Prior to lockdown last year, I was using that line regularly. Google/Facebook like asking nosey questions in their surveys about places your phone has picked up that you've recently visited. I kept on being asked to provide a review of "Bexley Allotments." I don't even know where they are!! (Well, somewhere in or near Bexley, obviously..)
Great to see you in Cornwall. My great-grandfather was a driver based at Newquay, and during my student days I had a summer job working in the booking office at Newquay (which is now a travel agency).
This was such a relaxing video
You should have popped in for a coffee and Cornish pasty
this is my childhood in a video!! used to visit my grandparents in newquay and spent forever on that line
Geoff's method of visiting stations by going "ADBCA" reminds me of permutations in maths.
"It isn't a non-stepfree station" is that the elusive triple-negative?
I couldn't fail to disagree with you less.
@@rosiefay7283 you do realise that this statement implies that you entirely disagree with the comment? It is an impressive triple-negative nonetheless.
Hope you have a wonderful time in the sunny South West
Did you know that in the early days of the GN Electrics, class 313s used to operate an overnight 'request stop' service between Welwyn Garden City and Kings Cross. Wish I could find a copy of the 1970s timetable that showed Potters Bar with a little 'X' next to it!
That was fun. I live in Dawlish. And have not been down the Newquay yet. What a lovely little line.
There is a Spar at Bugle for those interested in bagging these request stops. There is also a pub and a furniture warehouse and other small businesses. As for Roche, its nowhere near Roche but is next to the Victoria industrial estate and a pub, the Victoria Inn.
Always love a cheery driver!
Allotments are everywhere, watching and waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike since railways were first built.
They are motionless but also a deadly force, not made for being messed with.
There’s a spar shop up the road, and a pub up the road with accommodation in Bugle. If you go up the stairs and turn left and walk up the road you will see them. There’s also a chip shop too.
Geoff, another Cornwall video for you! Lelant/Lelant Saltings Request Stop on the St Ives Bay Line. Lelant only gets a couple of services a day as a request stop, but Lelant saltings gets one a day and has an interesting park and ride stop!
Be interesting to see how and when you do the request stops on the Kyle Line, trains are scarce and they're not within walking distance of each other haha.
Enjoying these videos, quite interesting.
The best series on RUclips. 🙋🏻♂️
Wonderfully the water carried just under the paving on the Aqua/duct/viaduct. Was used to power the winches that dragged the wagons up the incline at the end. Progress on more powerful Locomotives meant that later that lovely curve through the woods could replace the original tramway. Yes I have also walked over the structure. Us again.
There's the remains of a waterwheel a short distance from the viaduct that would have hauled the wagons up the incline.
Great stuff Geoff. Lots of semaphore signals at Par. What a timeless atmosphere there is in Cornwall. I challenge you to traverse the Lostwithiel to Fowey branch next!
Yep all Up trains stop at Quintrell Downs for 30s to operate the crossing. The seasonal intercity trains also stop, but they are not advertised. In the down direction there is a treadle that activates the crossing automatically.
ALLOTMENTS is what we say if we ever meet Geoff in real life!!!
We have just this afternoon left Paul and Rebecca on the Haytor Tramway in the mist.
I lived in Roach for several months back in 1980. Yes a lovely part of the world.
David and Lily Reading. And Plymouth.
Thank you, Geoff 🏴 🇯🇵
Diagonal wipe transition to indicate time passing. Totally didn't know that! Geoff tip of the day.
Next week: i introduce the transition that indicates "flash back in time".
also, i think George Lucas did time-passing-wipes first, didn't he?
I just had to look up Perranwell station! It used to be a request stop when I was at uni in Falmouth, but it isn't any more. I guess with Falmouth and Exeter cramming more and more students in the number of students regularly travelling between Perranwell and Penryn has gone up.
Is it my imagination, or are those timetable boards absolutely immaculate? They are shining bright with a clarity that I've never seen before. Is it something about the Cornish sunshine, or an incredible standard of maintenance or just that they are absolutely brand new?
On the Treffry Viaduct at Luxulyan, I had to look that one up as I didn't understand the aqueduct/viaduct quantum superimposition. It seems to be an astonishing dual-purpose construction, and surely ought to be on the Whitewick's schedule to visit.
I live in a stone though and thay are that emasculate cos of me I have autism and thay falid to advice the summer timetable and had not put new timetable up any long stories short got train and it was not stopping so the gard had to get me a taxi back to bugle and then a day later thay came out and put a timetable so gwr may not be the best but when it dose make a mistake thay go all out to fix it
@@brickleyyard4966 Can someone translate this for me ? He lives in a stone ?
@@stevelomas4119 Steve, I think Bradley's own words explain it for you.
Yes Steve, the Trefry Viaduct is very interesting as Luxulyan Valley was a very industrious area for a long while. The purpose of both aqueduct and viaduct is due to powering the old mining railway. It’s actually connected to a leat system that runs all the way to Charlestown. Luxulyan’s mining history covered Luxulyanite (rare red granite, actually used for Albert’s memorial in London), Copper predominantly during the boom years and much later English China Clay, back until the 1990s. The quarry shut down some time back after I left the area. For a seemingly quiet village it’s certainly has a lot of history!
Petition to officially call this series
“Make your intent clear”
The level crossing is an "Automatic Barrier Crossing Locally Monitored". If it's anything like the one at Newstead which I worked many years ago the driver of a stopping train presses a plunger when it's departure time to start the crossing sequence. Unless there are "non -stopping controls" on it every train is required to stop to press the plunger. In the opposite direction normal controls are fitted because trains don't stop on approach.
Great video. I used to live in house overlooking Par station.
What time did the sleeper stop at Par, I used to think it was very early?
This branch to Newquay shows how the railway was all over Cornwall before Beeching, I knew someone in my class at school who used the line from Lostwithiel to Fowey to come to school, stopped in 1964. All towns and many villages had a railway station, Bodmin, Camelford, Launceston for example, now you need a car as the bus services are poor and don't coordinate with trains. All branch lines need reinstating with small request stops like you showed.
hey Roger! sleeper got in just about 06:45, so i walked down to the village just as the SPAR show was opening, grabbed myself a coffee and drank it sat in the part just to the east of Par station, it was delightful!
Quintrell downs (and other crossings on the line) are operated by treadles so when a train hits them it activates the crossing, the driver gets a white light to show crossing has activated correctly. There are approach speeds for each. Quintrell downs in 25 on approach to newquay, but is a stop board on the way back to par so all trains, including IET have to stop and await the white light
Yep - depending on the TOC local agreement, if driver sights no-one on the platform, driver buzzes two to the Guard / Conductor / TM - and if someone is getting off, Guard / Conductor / TM with buzz once - stop - or if not they'll return two buzzes - go. If no buzz given train will prepare to stop.
And correct since the Barton branch transferred from Northern to EMR, New Clee sees all EMR Branch services call at there.
Headingley Station (in suburban Leeds) is also next to an allotment, although it's not all that close to what anyone would call Headingley.
I amazed Geoff managed to get a train from London. I thought BoJo had shown you had to fly to Newquay? :-)
No . There's even an over sleeper from London to Penzance . It's called the Night Rivera. I've used it myself a few times.
Morning Geoff. Always love your videos 👍🏻 Great that the Newquay line is still open 😀 But what a shame it’s been rationalised to a single line to a holiday destination 😥 Newquay station was very large in its day with lots of holiday specials arriving. I can remember Western class 52s hydraulics arriving with long rakes of MK1 coaches lol 😂 Maybe you could do a video on holiday seaside station destinations form the past like Butlins Pwllheli station 🤔 Take care cheers Stevie 😎
Thanks 👍
Yea! I requested this one last year! Grew up in Luxulyan and so glad you went down to the valley and Trefry’s Viaduct/Aquaduct. There is still a good few remains of the mining tracks to be found there, if you know where to look!! It connects down to Charlestown.
In my part of the world , love that walk from Luxulyan back down the valley to Par
Really beautiful.
Live in Australia but have been up and down the London canals and parks a few times, great city. So many interesting sites. Love the old and new mixed together. Would love to come back but not on the cards for a few years with our closed borders.
In Switzerland if you want to board or leave the train on a request stop, you have to push a button: If you are on the train, you just have to push the "door open" button enough early. Naturally the door don't open unteil the train stands at the station, but the button alights green which shows you that the driver knows about having to stop at the next station. If you are on the platform, there's a pilon with a button which activates a signal to stop the approaching train.
You are correct that when an IET/HST goes to Newquay they do have to stop on the way back for the barriers to operate, it was always timed as an unadvertised non passenger stop and the passenger doors remain locked.
It looks beautiful there Geoff. We get two trains a week in our village in France.
Great to see you traveling around the country again! Always love a trip on Class 150!
I can tell Geoff went down to Newquay just to see Air Force One and decided to do a request stop video as well 😂
I had to do a double take when you showed the doors at the start there! I was like 'there's still awesome HST's in play?!' then I realized it's the sleeper. Also what drone do you use for the shots?
Lots of HSTs still rolling up and down between Penzance and Plymouth every day of the week in Cornwall.
He doesn't use a drone. He just has a very, V E R Y long pole.
@@simonlake_ Yes, but the remaining HST's have now been fitted with electric doors, and with the Caledonian Sleeper fleet having been replaced by new carriages also with electric doors, does this mean that the Night Riviera is destined to become (or may be already) the last "slam door" service on the National Network?
Ah Geoff, if you could only see the waves of nostalgia here for the 17 years that I spent living in S.E Cornwall, when I was married to a "Cousin Jack" (that's someone Cornish born and bred for anyone unfamiliar with the local terminology). Odd thing was despite being not far from Luxulyan, and keen on walking, I never found that viaduct. Proper job - as they used to say!
Great, above Par vid to brighten a crap work day, Geoff!
You should have a look at the ruins of Roche chapel - it's on an outcrop, and it's astonishing, and oddly creepy. Where does the rock end, and the chapel start? It was used in the movie 'Omen III', too. It can be seen, fleetingly, from the train.
did not know! good info .. thanks Brian
As well as Roche Rock, Treffry viaduct also appears in Omen III, with some embellishments on the abutments.
Back in the day of Virgin Trains, they'd sometimes stop at Quintrell Downs and St. Columb Rd to pick up when going north bound.
Ah Bugle. Used to be home to Bugle FC - a really strong football team in the 80s in the old South Western League. All sadly gone after the football club went bust, but Mollenis ground and stand is still there and only used for a band competition once a year. Its the one senior Cornish football club which is still missed.
0:05 - Palm trees. I love Cornwall.
I've been on that line on a XC HST years ago but don't remember it stopping at Quintrell Downs. Also did the line on an XC Voyager that couldn't get up the hill so we had to go back to Par and wait for the next service. 😩
delightful That last segment where you are walking out on the aqueduct was a little eerie with the unsteady camera shot making it feel like the structure was swaying.
Just read your guide to request stops in your book. Now watching the master in action 👋👋
I alway remember my morther talking about gettiinng a train at a request stop. She used to lower the signal to get the train to stop, when she was on the station.
We have one train that leaves Roanoke VA. for Boston MA. USA in the early morning. There is one train that arrives late evening and that's all. Otherwise transportation is in a plane, bus or in a car, so I'm quite envious of your ability to travel the UK by train.
New Clee is no longer a request stop did you know? Ever since East Midlands Railway took over the Cleethorpes-Barton-on-Humber line from Northern.
So New Clee is now a scheduled stop.
It must be a lot more with New Clee being a scheduled stop so people can stop putting their hand out to stop the train.
Allotments and no pacers 😂😂. Nice one
Ron
O yes and a bugle at bugle 🎺
Absolute top-notch camera work here. Cracking shots. Slick edit. Plenty to love.
Re 125s: I used to live near Luxulyan. In the mid 90s, the weekend 125s would stop on request at all the stations and I used to occasionally get one home to Luxulyan from Bugle. You had to get on where the guard was and they would hand write a ticket on a carbon copy pad. I think the fare may have been 50p - will try to find one and check. Cannot imagine how much it cost to stop the whole train (twice) for that 50p revenue!
There is nothing as uplifting as the sight of GWR green
The distinctive sound of swifts flying around the viaduct at 10:31
You might joke about the allotments, but I always thought there's a good reason to it... the train noise makes it rather unsuitable for living. And, the space that railways occupy is not aligning with some other zone, and if it's generally deemed "too small" for that other purpose, it just gets filled with allotments. e.g. like www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.50106/13.28743
Possibly the shortest coast-to-coast rail trip in the world!
Re your comment about a lack of shops in Bugle, it’s probably the best served of all the stations on the line with a spar, pub and soon to have a co-op too!
That Allotment was a surprise! Awesome video, I remember in 2019 when travelling to Newquay to clear the line (sady it was raining that day) that I was chatting with one of the locals on the train and they were saying that the service was terrible along the Atlantic Coast line, the first train from Newquay wasn't till 10am and people had to rely on buses, There is some awesome engine sheds at St. Blazey as well with a lovely disused station and signal box which is still in use.
ayy new geoff marshall episode
Excellent video Geoff. I love the Allotment joke so funny.
I'm now convinced that Geoff knows all the train drivers
I left a like just for the allotment. Thanks for the video Geoff
You did it all for the Newquay.
3:03 ALLOTMENT ALERT. Thank you, Geoff, for pointing that out.
Driven across the crossing at Quintrell Downs a few times, not for over 10 years though.
One thing the Newquay line needs is a passing loop so it can have an hourly service. I’d run alternate trains through to Plymouth, Exeter or even Barnstaple.
I’ve lived on the line for 3 years and used it once because the service is so poor.
@@matbor33 Out of season you could understand it being only every two hours, but mid and high season it should be every hour at least in both directions. Not only that there needs to be two platforms at Newquay so one train (long distance) can sit there while another (local) arrives and departs.
Great to see you back travelling by train. 😉
Lucky you Geoff, that's one of my favourite lines.
Thanks once again for your wonderful trips.
Lovely part of the world ❤️
When I book a train journey, Geoff needs to come with me………..………….
…………………because they always seem empty when he’s on 🤔😁
😉😉
Cornwall in the sunshine , nice !
another great excursion. Thank you.