why designing for the music industry sucks
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2023
- just my opinion tho
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It’s weird how they value their creativity but not ours
EXACTLY
Idk if this is weird to say but I like it when people move their hands when they talk and I found it very satisfying the way your hands move when you say "a little bit of thought and care but this is where we're heading" at 11:25
Hahah no not weird at all!! The reason I got a wireless mic was so I can move my hands so I appreciate this comment. I love talking with my hands
Literally my exact same experience. Only 1 good music client. It seems like every high-passion industry (entertainment, music, gaming, nonprofit, etc.) takes advantage of people.
It’s sad really!
Aint no way i got caught watching the fucking subway surfers video for the first three minutes of this video. I subconsciously just tuned into it jesus how tiktok has fried our brains
It works 😌😌😌 hahahah
Massively appreciate the subway surfers. Also great commentary. I went to college for graphic design but I've had to pivot away purely because of the way designers are treated and the pay for the amount of work. As a very young designer it really does seem impossible to break into it. Freelancing seems impossible, and everyone wants years of experience and masters degrees for base pay.
that joke about acts of service was drier than my elbow on a windy day
😭😭😭
Music and entertainment related clients/agencies artists are theee worst. The industry truly just feeds off of people's hopes to see their work out in the wild, or to be associated with their favorite creatives in any way.
I believe it takes team work to solve this very complex issue, to have the industry slowly change their expectations on how we let em treat us. I hope that more designers get to not only to experience, but in the long run always expect being treated like the professionals i believe we all are ❤
I agree so much with this so much, its crazy especially with all the damn revisions they want!
Not a graphic designer but a painter and recently I painted an album cover for a small artist recently and Oml the revisions they made me do, I was going insane!!
That’s crazy! How tf do u even do revisions on a painting 😭😭😭
@@oversettext “repainting” over and over again. Never working with musicians again
@@Clvsterfuckreal af
Putting the subway surfers in the back was the biggest mistake because I couldn’t take my eyes off it
Freelance graphic designer and advertising project team member from 2010-2017. I lost all hope in the music/entertainment side during my last two years in it. Unrealistic 24-48 hour turnaround times. They break promises and don't help build/promote your brand.
I've been staring at the screen behind
serving 💅
0:24 - The Spelling of Others
I misspelled it for ENGAGEMENT HA GOT UUUUU (yes my bad I misspelled it)
THIS! And then they have NET90 payment schedules lol
i had NO idea it was this bad for music clients. tbh i never knew since i'm usually the one making my covers but jesus christ man
...yep.
HONK HONK HOOOOOOOOOONKK
I mostly agree with you, but why are you supposed to get “credit” or a “shout out?” Or are you saying that about cases where people don’t get paid?
Cause I don’t think I’ve ever seen a billboard or a poster with the name of the designer on it lol, I don’t really think that’s done. Unless you mean they don’t get paid!
I think it’s all about respect. Artist to artist, if I were a musician, I would like to credit anyone who helped make an album
Producers already get credited, why not cover artists? Like yeah TECHNICALLY the contract doesn’t legally need to credit them. But as an artist to artist, I would hope they would. Yknow? Wouldn’t you want the person who designed your cover art to continue get jobs? Like it’s just a sign of respect and a thank you.
This has been kind of the norm for cover art artists, even in the vinyl days, the artists wasn’t credited. It’s worse now with streaming. On Spotify, you can’t even see who did the visuals and I would argue the visuals are more important than ever.
Yeah you necessarily don’t need to. But as I said, that adds to my point of the visual arts aren’t respected or valued. And it shows when they don’t credit them. It’s just honoring fellow artists. And it just rubs me the wrong way.
@@oversettext I'm not saying you're wrong, but I guess I still don't really get it, cause like....when you watch an ad campaign, they don't list the name of everyone who works for the marketing agency (or hell, even the name of the marketing agency). I've never seen the name of a marketing agency on a billboard. The money is the exchange.
I don't credit a mechanic with a bumper sticker on my car. The money is the exchange.
I've never seen an architect's name on a building, unless it's historic and there's a plaque lol. The money is the exchange.
Never seen an agency's name on food packaging, on self-care products, on makeup, on cleaning products, on Christmas decorations....nothing. Ever. Nor have I seen anyone shout out their graphic designer on their socials, unless it was a very small business and they were feeling nice that day.
So when do you choose when to credit people? Seems a little petty to always want a shout out everywhere. As long as I get paid fairly, and get to tell people on my website I'm responsible for the project, I don't see the need. Seems childish to always be asking for shout outs. Nobody in any other industry ever gets these shout outs. I only ever see people in our industry crying about them. If you want shout outs, put it in your contract I guess. I suspect most clients will be confused if they're paying you. What's next? Shouting out the babysitter who made it all possible? lmao, it'll never end!
Credits after a movie would beg to differ. It’s crazy a movie can give credit. A moving picture. All it takes is a link in Spotify. If they can take the time to list everyone who worked on a movie, the music industry can do the same.
This is what I mean about giving credit to people who make art. Especially an album, most of it is not a one person operation.
You at least you should be able to find out who worked on what. It’s INCREDIBLY difficult to find out who worked on any album.
If you’re already crediting your producers on Spotify, why not the cover artist. It was also uncommon to credit producers in the early days of the music industry. They had to fight for it. And it still happens
Especially in the arts, I just think if ur gonna be posting it, at least tag the artist. Again it’s all about respect and honoring each other as artists.
It’s not the norm to credit other people who worked on it. The pay isn’t even good and no easily findable way credits for album art is even worse.
Again, I’ll make a longer video on this some day