Gotta start by saying these documentaries are amazing. Thank you. Also, I know I’m probably alone here but I loved Sweet 7. I really wish they’d continued on for one more album just to cement Jades legacy in the group a little further. I’d love a big tour with all of the girls doing their respective songs. Heidi definitely deserves her flowers for her 6 albums and her long tenure in the band.
You're not alone. I was so excited for a new album when they released freedom. They didn't deserve to have their careers ended for this. Another artist screwed over by Roc Nation.
The only bully in this whole mess was their poor excuse of a management team. They clearly had a vision for the Sugababes “brand” and didn’t care who delivered it. Do I think Keisha would have been hard to work with? Absolutely not! Do I think she had a deep passion for the band and wanted to make sure the legacy of something she started when she was 12 years old was kept to a high standard? Absolutely….. and I believe the 2 main managers (who I won’t name but they start with M and S) had major issues with that. She probably wasn’t afraid to speak up when she saw the band slowly become the opposite of everything the Sugababes were originally about. From what started as singing soulful songs with your school friends to standing on stage 10 years later being forced to sell “when I walk down the street they say hey sexy” to the public! I’d have a problem with that as well. It’s been well highlighted over the last 13 years that there management team were great at manipulating and pinning them against each other, and I think that’s the major thing that contributed to Keisha being kicked out. It pains me that they were happy to allude to the “bully” narrative in interviews even if they didn’t say the words. It’s just WILD that this happened and it was allowed to. I’m just happy the public didn’t accept it and we now have the original 3 rightfully back together.
Not you dragging Get Sexy like that 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩I choked 😂😂😂😂😂Without Keisha, that song doesn't work. It really is so wild that this ever happened. It's unimaginable.
Exactly! I have said that for years. Management is squarely to blame, as well as the other people behind the scenes. Constantly stirring the pot unnecessarily, pitting them against each other & inflating egos. They could have been the greatest girl group to rival that of the Spice Girls. Instead it was squandered on stupid drama & unprofessional childish behavior. Management & their sychophants are to blame for the dumpster fire we all saw burn.
I so very much appreciate these documentaries of this group with such a rich history. I'm a little sad you didn't mention the Sweet 7 sampler leak with Keisha's vocals (although you did include some of them in here which were nice littler easter eggs!). But the MKS tease at the end makes me excited for an in-depth video about the original MKS era going into the current Sugababes activities with The Lost Tapes. Cheers to you and all of your hard work!
These videos that you put together are simply spellbinding. They contain live performances and valuable archival resources that would be lost to time! Thank you so much for all your hard work, hours of viewing pleasure and for documenting what feels like another era of pop music!
I’m watching this now and Jade is on This Morning as the 3rd Sugababes member 🤯🤯🤯 It’s a struggle to watch this. It’s criminal that founding member Keisha was fired from the group, and it was insane to think Sugababes without Keisha would work. Seeing this lineup presenting as Sugababes rubs me the wrong way.
This is fantastic, such amazing work! I was a huge 4.0 and Jade fan, so this documentary has been wonderful. I wish they got to release their original album together, I'm sure it would have been amazing.
I’m loving these documentaries. I get to see the girls this year in concert which feels so surreal. I’m really looking forward to the MKS and lost tapes documentary!
Loved it! Can't wait for future docs about other artists and for the future MKS/original Sugababes doc. These have been fantastic and you should be really proud of yourself for the hard work you've put in and the content you're creating!
This is brilliant you need to add another segment now and make it come full circle I do feel sad for the girls it’s life eh. I wish each and everyone of them well and happiness. It’s sad really because you can tell the management and record companies were slowly taking away the girls rights, money and power by having their writing credits taken off the
I honestly feel sorry for Jade and how getting caught up in all this drama effectively killed her recording career. She deserved better, especially with her amazing voice. Speaking of which, I kinda never bothered with the 4.0 lineup (well, the 3.0 either, to be honest), but listening to live performances in the documentary I was kinda shocked by how ill-fitted the three of them were together. It's just personal opinion, of course, but wherease MKS have very distinctive individual voices which blend in perfectly together, 4.0 seem to just have happened to show up on the same stage (which, in a way, they kinda did) and are each doing their own thing. Lacklustre songwriting aside, they completely lack any sense of cohesion, and not only because Jade is the only one with proper pipes and easily overpowers the other two. They just lack chemistry.
I didn't realize how forced and awkward 4.0 was in interviews til recently going back through their stuff. They knew they were lying to the media about the 8th album 48:4648:521:08:28 the Sugababes didn’t deserve her. So glad she's solo now. 4.0 was done to make Amelle the lead. Guarantee Heidi would have been next to be kicked.
Wow... Didn't realize Jade was such a good singer 36:03 that clean high harmony is fire, then her solo is impressive. Dramas aside, 4.0 could have worked as a different project. More general pop. Original Sugababes was always more edgy and Mutya sultry voice was a staple. Wishing nothing but good things to all the 6 ladies. Life happens.
Well put together. The irony was that Heidi and Amelle stirred Mutya back into focusing on Sugababes by kicking out Keisha, and once that happened it was game over. Susannah Reid seems to really rip into them, that interview is excrutiating! Perhaps Susannah was a big Keisha fan?
@@BASSER81 There was a bit more to it than that. A good insight into what really happened is the Andrew castle interview in the video above. Listen to Heidi's response when he asks what happened with Keisha from 31:50
Thank you for putting together this insightful Sweet 7 era documentary. What still puzzles me till today, is what did Keisha do to Heidi and Amelle, so serious that they decided to quit the group? What exactly did she do that “crossed the line”? The singles from this album brings me back to my DJ-ing days… as much as this album was being criticized, I still love it to this day!
There is a lot of rumors going around, and it's hard to say for sure. I only can tell you what I heard and read over the years, but obviously I don't know any of them personally, so it should be taken with a pinch of salt probably. All in all, it comes down to them beeing overworked (they basically didn't had any breaks since the 5th album) and under a lot of pressure from the label because of the dissapointment of Catfights. It's said that album was Keisha's "baby", and after it failed to get the commercial success the label wanted, they forced the new sound on them, with which Keisha wasn't happy (also not happy that they didn't had any creative input on the album). Then there is the fact that Amelle just had the "solo" #1 single, and the story goes that she thought she was the bigger star and wanted to be more in the foreground of the band. Plus the fact that Keisha was very driven, eager to keep the band going and staying relevant and that she was very perfectionist. Keisha also claimed Amelle was beeing very unreliable and unprofessional (I think she said on Twitter that Amelle had a habit of "disappearing" from time to time, always blaming it on someone else). So... Them still beeing fairly young, not having a break in like 3 years and beeing under lot of pressure from the label, and with obvious differences in work ethic, they just clashed. Rumor also has it that Heidi was tired of the music industry altogether, even before the release of Sweet 7, so this might be the reason why she sided with Amelle. Personal opinion: the fallout between those three probably wasn't even thaaat bad and could have been fixed with some time apart, but the label wanted them to continue right away (and like it's said rather found one new girl for A&H then two new for K). But they needed a good excuse to explain why Keisha was axed, one that the public would be understanding about... And painting Keisha as a bully and all that was pretty easy, because she already had that kind of reputation. Maybe it even really was racism from the labels side 🤷🏼♀️.
I get the sense Keisha was very passionate, driven and had high standards and visions for the group, and the other two were basic and couldn't handle it. That gets labelled as "bullying". I also think it was a deliberate narrative they put out to isolate her and sell the new lineup. It backfired though 😝
They had not been getting along for quite some time. Amelle had a habit of not showing up to business meetings, writing sessions, recordings and performances, which rubbed Keisha up the wrong way. Being around them you could see the pot was going to over flow and once that happened there was no stopping it. Keisha was very driven and very professional, Sugababes was a business and when you had a member who wanted the fame and money but was lazy and didn't contribute when she did show up, naturally things were going to implode. Had they of had a break I doubt they would have got back together, not this line up anyway.
@@maritta2504 there was also a rumor that Keisha wanted Mutya back but Heidi and Crown didn't want her back plus Crown wanted to control all aspects of the group and Keisha was a problem for them
Thanks so much for this series, it's been a great watch as a long-time casual Sugababes listener! Tbh I'm surprised the group didn't fall apart after Mutya left. To me, that was the beginning of the end and where I lost interest in them. They changed their sound and image so much with Change, it just wasn't the same group. I think that if About You Now hadn't been so successful, they would've probably broken up sooner.
Thank you so much for your hard work. I don't know why when the girls did the interview in 7:07 Keisha and Heidi would look at each other side eyes like saying don't mention any backstage stuff they had going in that day. That was how I saw it and I could be wrong. But again it was a misfire and I know that the shake up of the group hurt the album sales because it looked like rush when Jade enter and scrapped her album to rush record the songs
Once again, a fantastic video is essay.Your research is on point and well-organised and explains a lot. The editing flows nicely. You document their history well and not painting anyone in a bad light. I like the editing. I know you stated you are only doing seven parts. But will be continuing with another story with original Babes MKS/Lost Tapes, as their much more material out there. Once again, thank you for entertaining content. Keep it up.
Re watching this back just makes me so mad that management etc thought replacing Keisha would work and everyone would just accept it. It absolutely puzzles me! In 2023 this sort of thing just would not happen. So grateful it’s all worked out and the Sugababes is back to the originals
I listened to this album in full last night. Such a fun poppy album. Absolutely nothing bad about it. Little Miss Perfect and Sweet and Amazing are great.
loved this! Thank-you for the time and effort you’ve put in! I really enjoyed sweet 7 and like with all the lineups, loved and supported them. It’s a shame when things don’t work out but the music survives which is the main thing.
First, thank you so much for all your hard work! I hope all the ladies have seen this series and love it as much as the rest of us do. Admittedly, I was not a Sugababes fan at the time of all this since I wasn't aware of them until they got into the MKS era so this entire documentary series has truly been rewarding as someone who has been diving into the music the past couple of years, but not being really familiar with all the things that happened. I still haven't gotten around to listening to all of Catfights and Sweet 7, but I've heard all the prior albums, "Freedom", the leaked MKS tracks and The Lost Tapes. I'm a definite fan of all the ladies. I have noticed though when 1.0 reformed and went through their journey up to now, they always said the other girls were supportive but typically only reference Heidi and Amelle. Has Jade distanced herself from the Sugababes brand?
I don't know exactly, but I assume it has to do with the fact that none of the original members ever worked together with Jade. They are more like distant aquaintances that know of each others existance but don't have any touching points besides that. They all did have much more contact with Amelle and Heidi, they all have worked together for years and basically shared a life. I do think Jade wants to distance herself a bit from the Sugababes though, as the her time in the band doesn't seem to be the brightest chapter in her life for her (what was thought to be a great opportunity turned into massive outpour of hate towards her and practically ruined her career and passion). She did speak sympathetically about Keisha in particular though recently (it's even shown in this video here).
Jade does not speak to Heidi or Amelle, she has moved on from Sugababes, she didn't enjoy her time in the group, she has said more than once she is really happy for the original girls and wishes them nothing but the best.
thanks so much for all these! especially this last one made me the most emotional and there's some new stuff (to me) in there. it's a bit sad how they tried with 3 different lineups to break america and it never really happened. the singles off of sweet 7 did pretty well, but i guess the album sales itself made labels not believe in the group anymore (truth is: island, roc and rca were so quick to drop talented girls whose latest singles had made top 10) also i get the feeling that in the initial "post-Keisha" interviews the girls were hinting a bit to the management being responsible for this lineup change, but in later interviews from the same era they started saying more that it was their own decision and making it look more like Keisha made them quit (which I think was the management's doing, I heard they also made Jade lie and say Keisha was "scary") all in all, i think Keisha and Jade suffered the most from all this (in different ways and for different reasons, of course) and it's a shame. i wanna give these two a big hug.
I loved the ending of the video featuring Kesha's bridge from Thank You For The Heartbreak! That song is my favorite out of Sweet 7. And it's a shame that in my country is not available for streaming. For now I can say I can't wait to see the original Sugababes live this spring! 😍
It’s a shame Amelle’s solo career never took off, she had such great star power and potential in this era, but she left it too long to release any music.
She should have just left before Sweet7 and released her own Album and banged it out. She shouldn’t even have been involved in Sweet7. She should have left around Catlights era
Very insightful. After Keisha’s outing from the band, I made the descision to not pay attention to them anymore. I hadn’t actually heard Freedom before or know Amelle released a solo track. 😂 These documentaries have been fantastic. 👍🏻⭐️
1:09:00 "Afterward the group began a hiatus to work on solo projects. Amelle worked on solo material, Heidi participated in the eighth series of Dancing On Ice, and Jade competed as a contestant on the first series of Splash." We've officially entered This Is Spinal Tap territory.
When you hear Sweet 7 tracks next to flatline, it's a stark reminder of how far the group fell and how the OG members really had the song writing talent the 4th line-up were missing. The Sugababes history is so interesting though and I love hearing the different line-up's attempting different songs. Thanks for this series of docs, must have been a lot of work!
I know, you know, we all know Heidi served in the group for an extremely long time, technically the one of the most longest serving members BUT musically she worked well as a member to an extent with Keisha, and best with both Mutya and Keisha. To have Heidi as the most senior/front person was just wrong. I don’t care what led to that outcome, it just matters that it didn’t work. Not only did Jade vocally outdo Heidi anyway, it just felt like a generic and faceless band. Led by whatever the management wanted them to do. Finally but most importantly, fans have a long memory, they’re not going to brush off Keisha’s firing like it was nothing. That was a disrespect to BOTH her and fans. *Edited to state that Heidi was not the longest serving member
@White Patterns I’m sorry. I got that really wrong. They built the band from the age of 12 😢No wonder Siobhan and Mutya were triggered when Keisha got ousted….
I love all these documentaries on the babes… thank you for the uploads.. I happened to enjoy all the band members and the line up changes … although, my all time fav was always Mutya ❤️
Love this documentary of sweet 7. It's a shame you didn't include the parody of about a girl they did with Katy Brand grow a girl, but you probably already had alot of content to go through. Thanks again
Apart from that, I think no line up change would have gone down much better with the public in that situation, so they were pretty much doomed anyway. Imo, Management should have decided to stick with the one member that was clearly the most interested in carrying on with the Band, besides of beeing an actual founding member of said band. But I am 100% sure the public would definetely not have liked Keisha and two new girls either at all. Because then, Heidi wouldn't have been a part of the band anymore and she probably was the most liked member back then. This would definetely have caused as much drama as Keishas exit did... And probably would have tainted Keisha's reputation further, with the claims she was a bully and difficult to work with already existing and all that. People surely would have blamed it all on Keisha (they did anyway, but with the way her exit was handled, much more people felt sympathetic towards her). To this day, I am very sure the only line up change that would have been accepted more is if Jade had indeed replaced Amelle. But tbh, I don't see how that would have fitted in the band, as Keisha and Jade both have very powerfull voices and they are the same kind of "type" as a singer, they probably would have drowned each other out and it would have sounded weird to horrible live (production could have made it better on recordings, but there were so many life performances where the voices had been mixed horribly...).
Agreed. Had Keisha stayed and we got two replacements it would have been just as bizarre if not more. I’m not sure Keisha would have had any support. The only thing that would have maybe worked if they went on a hiatus and came back with the originals and revamped what Sweet 7 sounded like.
Mutya is the glue of the Sugababes. She was the middle person between Keisha and Siobhan. They both felt comfortable with Mutya after their departures from the band. I never ever thought that Siobhan and Keisha would be back on stage together back when 2009 drama happened…
what caught my attention on the Sugababes by the time of "Angels with dirty faces" was, that they looked like normal girls with a vision and talent ...ages later they d become like all the US girl gropus focused on sexiness to sell records ..and they sold themselves out(i like the songs,though)...it's fascinating how the original line up came together again,started releasing songs like the old days but under a different monicker ,fought to officially have the Sugababes Name and got it ....enuff for a blockbuster documentary !!!
It's such a shame this lineup never really got the chance to show their best. After all the Sweet 7 drama died down they looked and sounded genuinely happy together as a group when promoting and performing Freedom. About A Girl is one of the best Sugababes songs to date, no question. Love these documentaries - keep up the great work!
I actually agree that About A Girl is one of their best pop singles. It's unfortunate that it's tied to such a fall out and Keisha was gone before she could film the video.
About A Girl is actually a great track, I really liked it. I don't think they were happy around the Freedom time, as soon as Jade could she left and cut ties. Everyone thought 3.0 were happy and solid at the time and later to find out they largely didn't get along. They do have people around them telling them how to act and to smile smile smile.
Bravo! A stellar ending to the most excellent pop docu-series I have ever seen. If Sugababes ever release their own official doc they'd' better get you onboard to consult. To this day, I cringe over how Sweet 7 was handled. As a fan of all the line-ups, I truly wish they had taken a break and brought in a therapist to sort out the issues between 3.0. I don't think Amelle & Heidi sought to conivingly oust Keisha. But, I ALSO don't think Keisha is lying when she says they turned their back on her. Heidi & Amelle seem like team players who at end of the day wanted to keep living the dream. Sugababes was Keisha's baby. She never missed a show or appearance. She was fiercely protective of the brand and clearly hated the label pushing them in that RocNation influenced sound and direction. But I ALSO think she got uncomfortable with the emphasis on Amelle. Amelle was pushed to the front after About You Now and especially after Never Leave You went #1. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Add a money hungry label to the mix who controlled their every move and you undoubtedly get a situation beyond repair. My only hope for Sugababes fans is that the originals give Heidi, Amelle and even Jade their flowers for keeping the name alive and broadening the fanbase. It would be a full circle moment and make all fans, no matter which line-up you preferred, very happy.
I’m really glad that many of us are recognising Keisha’s passion for her childhood band, especially back in 3.0. Keisha wanted harmonies like they once had back in the day and did whatever she could to salvage that Sugababes sound. With 4.0, it weirdly turned out to be quite Diana Ross and the Supremes (Jade’s voice was impressive but overpowering).
Thank you for this entire series!!!! Well done!!! Bravo!! I've really really enjoyed the trip down memory lane and will definitely be revisiting the series in future. Its interesting watching these interviews with life experience and some hindsight....wrt Heidi and Amelle deciding to quit the band etc. etc.... Sugababes was not just the 3 girls - it was them together with the entire corporate machinery behind Sugababes, including management - a whole business with the girls/their songs as their product. So in my mind, if Amelle and Heidi were that unhappy with Sugababes inc and were willing to walk away because of being unhappy, tired whatever reason really, then they should have walked and never looked back.... in my mind Amelle and Heidi must have known/been encouraged that if they made such an epic coup, it would be successful i.e. Keisha would have been ousted, and they would be free to continue to promote Sweet 7 (and continue the band/brand) without her.... 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂ In the real world, if I am ready to leave my employer and make such a move then I better be satisfied with leaving - no promises or cajoling would make me go back. going back to continue with Jade seems to me like management had a heavy hand in manipulating Amelle and Jade and making suggestions about the possibility of a Sugababes future without Keisha Siobhan and Mutya left much the same way that I would expect in the real world. the way Amelle and Heidi describe things is not entirely believable... Mutya @50.57 is 100% correct... And after all the financial investment in the sweet 7 album and the contracts signed etc. it seems wild to me that such a coup by Amelle and Heidi (as was presented to the public) was 100% genuine...but what do I know? Obviously I'm not trying to vilify Amelle and Heidi....unfortunately it was the perfect storm of corporate greed, unmitigated manipulation of whatever situation was going on and the girls' egos, insecurities.... but everything happens for a reason....and now we have Mutya Keisha and Siobhan back together. And I'm here for it!! 😃😃😃😃
@@kelvina7927 I see your perspective. I just believe it was way more nuanced than what we've been told. Neither party was 100% in the right. All in all, I'm glad the originals are back. Their chemistry and voices are unmatched. I just think hardcore fans need some nod to the other girls and what they brought to the group.
Fabulous work 🎉👌. One of the most interesting stories. Literally swapped all the members and came full circle. I guess they did everything expected at the time. America move, keep on trend with the 2009 music, red-one etc. The amelle taking a mental health break and media continuously banging on about them splitting was the dagger in the sugababes. Then Keisha leaving dropped them to the floor and media again pulling them about 'another new member, fights, not original anymore etc, it was all too much controversy for them to survive. 'freedom' was really good. It's a shame we didn't get the album. Had an edge and gives me a modern 'freak like me' vibes. It was one last push to see if 4.0 could work but they were used and destroyed by the media, it was far too much by then and Radios ditched the new track. What an absolute shame. I wanted this modern, dark edgy sugababes. Please let us hear it someone 🙏. Interesting about amelles later solo work. I didn't know that. Really appreciate your work 🎉
Its such a nostalgic gesture that this documentary has come out after so many years & it has come so nicely & Thank you for this amazing work !!.. Wish Heidi, Amelle , Jade could have continued recording under a new band name & atleast could have released one more album before they left music industry once & for all , since the chemistry was amazing with them & they bonded with each other very well.. Even though Sweet 7 did not chart the tops, it is still one of the best Sugababes albums IMO ...Even though i grew up with listening to older albums with Keisha, Mutya , this album had a novel touch & had catchy songs. As they say all good things come to an end, this was the last album that i always cherish
I love how this documentary starts with About A Girl. I still play the Keisha version, as I do think the song is pop perfection and it's a shame Keisha wasn't able to stay in the group she helped create during that lineup.
@@imalwaysright Absolutely. Get Sexy did peak at #2 and probably would've went #1 if there wasn't much competition at the time. I think once Keisha was gone, it was hard for the public to fully digest the new lineup of "Sugababes". Although, they did have two more top ten hits with Jade.
@@jdorecouture16 if we go off the chart placements of the 3.0 singles from Change and C&S, if they released the album in November as originally planned the second and third singles might’ve peaked lower than they did with 4.0. We have to keep in mind that all three singles came before an actual album so it was easier to get top 10 singles since they weren’t already available.
@@jdorecouture16 Get Sexy spent only 5 weeks in the top 40. It was their worst performing lead single since Overload (when they weren't even established).
The thing is I think all six are all great singers with unique tones, but for me 2.0 and 1.0 will forever be THE sugababes. It was a shame how the management treated Keisha towards the end. 4.0 could work if they’re managed well and they become a different group like everyone else said. But I’m happy everyone is doing well for themselves.
What do you call for Heidi? an original? 😂 she was a subtitute as well as amelle and jade. The current line up Mutya, Keisha, Siobhan are the best. Original trio and original sound no debate
Great video! As much as I loved Heidi and Amelle, and the third lineup was my favourite, it was painful to witness this era as it unfolded. It would never work. It’s kinda of sad seeing Wear My Kiss as their final proper single. The lyrics and the music video are awful and representative of how generic they had become (and this would have been an issue even if Keisha had stayed). A total opposite from how things started. I really wonder what actually went down and I think we’ll never know. I think there’s a lot of nuance there, and management probably really influenced the girls’ relationships. As Keisha said more recently, she had the most fun with Heidi and Amelle and I really believe they had a great time together. I wish the band could have ended without this sour chapter, but I guess this was all needed for the (current) original lineup to be back and for things to come full circle.
They really didn't have a great time together. That line up never gelled, as time went on the cracks began to show more and more. Keisha is just being diplomatic saying that, no doubt they had fun at times but overall she has no desire to work with them again. That should tell you something.
Maybe I'm one of the very few human beings that really LOVED AND ENJOYED the Sweet 7 era + Freedom. Ok, was kinda rude how they sacked Keisha from the group, and the sound of that new material was not too original, but was vhat was sounding on the radio those days, they just played safe after the Catfights and Spotlights fail. And in case Keisha,wouldn't had left, it would-ve been released the same album but with her voice instead of Jade's. Freedom sounded nice to me, it was like a "new direction", but group's fate was already sealed... was a bit sad to me that they didn't tried harder to survive. But of course right now I really enjoy the coneback of the original line up
You're not alone.. Heidi was my fave in the group.. So I was willing to support them still... But management and marketing should've put Heidi front and center because she was the leader at that point
Jade is such an amazing singer but like she said the circumstances were just wrong and she was brought into a toxic management group. And also Heidi deserves her accolades but unfortunately I don't think she'll get them because of the role she seemed to play in Keisha being removed
Thank you so much for putting together these Sugababes documentaries. I hope you will also feature the MKS and Lost Tapes era in the future!
Yeah! when is lost tapes coming????
Gotta start by saying these documentaries are amazing. Thank you.
Also, I know I’m probably alone here but I loved Sweet 7. I really wish they’d continued on for one more album just to cement Jades legacy in the group a little further. I’d love a big tour with all of the girls doing their respective songs. Heidi definitely deserves her flowers for her 6 albums and her long tenure in the band.
You're not alone. It was a great DANCE record. Really good hi-energy jams. You don't always need to be a singer/songwriter, sometimes a break is good.
But it's not the essence of the Sugababes, it was entirely faceless. Would've maybe been a great The Saturdays album.
You're not alone. I was so excited for a new album when they released freedom. They didn't deserve to have their careers ended for this. Another artist screwed over by Roc Nation.
The only bully in this whole mess was their poor excuse of a management team. They clearly had a vision for the Sugababes “brand” and didn’t care who delivered it.
Do I think Keisha would have been hard to work with? Absolutely not!
Do I think she had a deep passion for the band and wanted to make sure the legacy of something she started when she was 12 years old was kept to a high standard? Absolutely….. and I believe the 2 main managers (who I won’t name but they start with M and S) had major issues with that.
She probably wasn’t afraid to speak up when she saw the band slowly become the opposite of everything the Sugababes were originally about. From what started as singing soulful songs with your school friends to standing on stage 10 years later being forced to sell “when I walk down the street they say hey sexy” to the public! I’d have a problem with that as well.
It’s been well highlighted over the last 13 years that there management team were great at manipulating and pinning them against each other, and I think that’s the major thing that contributed to Keisha being kicked out. It pains me that they were happy to allude to the “bully” narrative in interviews even if they didn’t say the words.
It’s just WILD that this happened and it was allowed to. I’m just happy the public didn’t accept it and we now have the original 3 rightfully back together.
Not you dragging Get Sexy like that 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩I choked 😂😂😂😂😂Without Keisha, that song doesn't work. It really is so wild that this ever happened. It's unimaginable.
who are the S & M managers
@@imalwaysright Sarah Bennet and mark Hargreaves
@@scottlove9461 lol
Exactly! I have said that for years. Management is squarely to blame, as well as the other people behind the scenes. Constantly stirring the pot unnecessarily, pitting them against each other & inflating egos. They could have been the greatest girl group to rival that of the Spice Girls. Instead it was squandered on stupid drama & unprofessional childish behavior. Management & their sychophants are to blame for the dumpster fire we all saw burn.
I so very much appreciate these documentaries of this group with such a rich history. I'm a little sad you didn't mention the Sweet 7 sampler leak with Keisha's vocals (although you did include some of them in here which were nice littler easter eggs!). But the MKS tease at the end makes me excited for an in-depth video about the original MKS era going into the current Sugababes activities with The Lost Tapes. Cheers to you and all of your hard work!
@@Terry_Bell No More You also leaked in the Keisha version. We might get all the songs with Keisha's vocals eventually 😄
The most beautiful doc series ever! Thank you!
Thanks x
The fact that the sugababes are selling sugababes wrapping paper on their website now is fabulous.
The Shade of it all lol
LOL
It makes sense now I’ve heard about the legal dispute.
@@Kameaux Same! The wrapping paper meme will always be an in-joke in the Sugababes-verse 😆
That's actually hilarious 🤣
About A Girl is such a banger, it’s one of their best! And Jade sounds great on it (as much as I love Keisha)
These videos that you put together are simply spellbinding. They contain live performances and valuable archival resources that would be lost to time! Thank you so much for all your hard work, hours of viewing pleasure and for documenting what feels like another era of pop music!
I’m watching this now and Jade is on This Morning as the 3rd Sugababes member 🤯🤯🤯 It’s a struggle to watch this. It’s criminal that founding member Keisha was fired from the group, and it was insane to think Sugababes without Keisha would work. Seeing this lineup presenting as Sugababes rubs me the wrong way.
This is fantastic, such amazing work! I was a huge 4.0 and Jade fan, so this documentary has been wonderful. I wish they got to release their original album together, I'm sure it would have been amazing.
The documentary I was waiting for, in terms of coverage of the Drama 😅! And wow, 1h 20 mins! I can't wait to watch it all!
I’m watching it now. It’s really enjoying it so far.
I’m loving these documentaries. I get to see the girls this year in concert which feels so surreal. I’m really looking forward to the MKS and lost tapes documentary!
Just finished watching. So amazing and I CANT WAIT for the next one 😂😂😂😂 this is better than Netflix
the way you insert flatline at the end sends chills up my spine... out of all the docos this one is the most bittersweet
Loved it! Can't wait for future docs about other artists and for the future MKS/original Sugababes doc. These have been fantastic and you should be really proud of yourself for the hard work you've put in and the content you're creating!
This is brilliant you need to add another segment now and make it come full circle I do feel sad for the girls it’s life eh. I wish each and everyone of them well and happiness. It’s sad really because you can tell the management and record companies were slowly taking away the girls rights, money and power by having their writing credits taken off the
Just binged everything from this series and just want to say thank you it was all amazing! Waiting for the mks one!
Thank you
I honestly feel sorry for Jade and how getting caught up in all this drama effectively killed her recording career. She deserved better, especially with her amazing voice.
Speaking of which, I kinda never bothered with the 4.0 lineup (well, the 3.0 either, to be honest), but listening to live performances in the documentary I was kinda shocked by how ill-fitted the three of them were together. It's just personal opinion, of course, but wherease MKS have very distinctive individual voices which blend in perfectly together, 4.0 seem to just have happened to show up on the same stage (which, in a way, they kinda did) and are each doing their own thing. Lacklustre songwriting aside, they completely lack any sense of cohesion, and not only because Jade is the only one with proper pipes and easily overpowers the other two. They just lack chemistry.
I didn't realize how forced and awkward 4.0 was in interviews til recently going back through their stuff. They knew they were lying to the media about the 8th album
48:46 48:52 1:08:28 the Sugababes didn’t deserve her. So glad she's solo now. 4.0 was done to make Amelle the lead. Guarantee Heidi would have been next to be kicked.
the DRAMA!!!!
thanks so much for this series, it's been essential for me as a new fan :)
oh heey fellow new fan!
Wow... Didn't realize Jade was such a good singer 36:03 that clean high harmony is fire, then her solo is impressive. Dramas aside, 4.0 could have worked as a different project. More general pop. Original Sugababes was always more edgy and Mutya sultry voice was a staple. Wishing nothing but good things to all the 6 ladies. Life happens.
Freedom is a bop! still wanna hear their album
Same! As much as I am a MKS stan 100% (they are the true sugababes) I would like to hear the unreleased HAJ album.
Me too must be super if there is something
They originally had Lazerlight which Jessie J took but that’s all. Nothing else was done.
@@sukiesoya they had some interviews where they said theyre recording songs on more dark way
Thank you thank you thank you for these documentaries!
Well put together. The irony was that Heidi and Amelle stirred Mutya back into focusing on Sugababes by kicking out Keisha, and once that happened it was game over. Susannah Reid seems to really rip into them, that interview is excrutiating! Perhaps Susannah was a big Keisha fan?
They didn’t kick her out they left!
@@BASSER81 There was a bit more to it than that. A good insight into what really happened is the Andrew castle interview in the video above. Listen to Heidi's response when he asks what happened with Keisha from 31:50
Thank you for putting together this insightful Sweet 7 era documentary. What still puzzles me till today, is what did Keisha do to Heidi and Amelle, so serious that they decided to quit the group? What exactly did she do that “crossed the line”?
The singles from this album brings me back to my DJ-ing days… as much as this album was being criticized, I still love it to this day!
There is a lot of rumors going around, and it's hard to say for sure. I only can tell you what I heard and read over the years, but obviously I don't know any of them personally, so it should be taken with a pinch of salt probably.
All in all, it comes down to them beeing overworked (they basically didn't had any breaks since the 5th album) and under a lot of pressure from the label because of the dissapointment of Catfights. It's said that album was Keisha's "baby", and after it failed to get the commercial success the label wanted, they forced the new sound on them, with which Keisha wasn't happy (also not happy that they didn't had any creative input on the album). Then there is the fact that Amelle just had the "solo" #1 single, and the story goes that she thought she was the bigger star and wanted to be more in the foreground of the band.
Plus the fact that Keisha was very driven, eager to keep the band going and staying relevant and that she was very perfectionist. Keisha also claimed Amelle was beeing very unreliable and unprofessional (I think she said on Twitter that Amelle had a habit of "disappearing" from time to time, always blaming it on someone else).
So... Them still beeing fairly young, not having a break in like 3 years and beeing under lot of pressure from the label, and with obvious differences in work ethic, they just clashed.
Rumor also has it that Heidi was tired of the music industry altogether, even before the release of Sweet 7, so this might be the reason why she sided with Amelle.
Personal opinion: the fallout between those three probably wasn't even thaaat bad and could have been fixed with some time apart, but the label wanted them to continue right away (and like it's said rather found one new girl for A&H then two new for K). But they needed a good excuse to explain why Keisha was axed, one that the public would be understanding about... And painting Keisha as a bully and all that was pretty easy, because she already had that kind of reputation. Maybe it even really was racism from the labels side 🤷🏼♀️.
I get the sense Keisha was very passionate, driven and had high standards and visions for the group, and the other two were basic and couldn't handle it. That gets labelled as "bullying". I also think it was a deliberate narrative they put out to isolate her and sell the new lineup. It backfired though 😝
They had not been getting along for quite some time. Amelle had a habit of not showing up to business meetings, writing sessions, recordings and performances, which rubbed Keisha up the wrong way. Being around them you could see the pot was going to over flow and once that happened there was no stopping it.
Keisha was very driven and very professional, Sugababes was a business and when you had a member who wanted the fame and money but was lazy and didn't contribute when she did show up, naturally things were going to implode.
Had they of had a break I doubt they would have got back together, not this line up anyway.
@@maritta2504 there was also a rumor that Keisha wanted Mutya back but Heidi and Crown didn't want her back plus Crown wanted to control all aspects of the group and Keisha was a problem for them
@@maurojavier1084 oh, I have never heard that rumor! Interesting. Could also explain why Heidi ultimately sided with Amelle 🤔
I just love your documentaries . Thank you
Thanks x
Thanks so much for this series, it's been a great watch as a long-time casual Sugababes listener!
Tbh I'm surprised the group didn't fall apart after Mutya left. To me, that was the beginning of the end and where I lost interest in them. They changed their sound and image so much with Change, it just wasn't the same group. I think that if About You Now hadn't been so successful, they would've probably broken up sooner.
Thank you so much for your hard work. I don't know why when the girls did the interview in 7:07 Keisha and Heidi would look at each other side eyes like saying don't mention any backstage stuff they had going in that day. That was how I saw it and I could be wrong. But again it was a misfire and I know that the shake up of the group hurt the album sales because it looked like rush when Jade enter and scrapped her album to rush record the songs
Mutya Buena must be one of the most successful Asian singers that Britain has ever produced
Ok so this was brilliant and thank you for your effort in this whole series ❤️
Thank you so mucho for all these, the first song and video that i saw from them was round round cos a footage from EMAS
Thank You! ♥ This turn me back at time, in lovely memories...
Once again, a fantastic video is essay.Your research is on point and well-organised and explains a lot. The editing flows nicely. You document their history well and not painting anyone in a bad light.
I like the editing. I know you stated you are only doing seven parts. But will be continuing with another story with original Babes MKS/Lost Tapes, as their much more material out there.
Once again, thank you for entertaining content.
Keep it up.
Thank you
This entire series has been very informative, great job!
The Flatline outro to this documentary was beautiful
Re watching this back just makes me so mad that management etc thought replacing Keisha would work and everyone would just accept it. It absolutely puzzles me!
In 2023 this sort of thing just would not happen.
So grateful it’s all worked out and the Sugababes is back to the originals
she was my favorite member I remember
I listened to this album in full last night. Such a fun poppy album. Absolutely nothing bad about it. Little Miss Perfect and Sweet and Amazing are great.
loved this! Thank-you for the time and effort you’ve put in! I really enjoyed sweet 7 and like with all the lineups, loved and supported them. It’s a shame when things don’t work out but the music survives which is the main thing.
First, thank you so much for all your hard work! I hope all the ladies have seen this series and love it as much as the rest of us do.
Admittedly, I was not a Sugababes fan at the time of all this since I wasn't aware of them until they got into the MKS era so this entire documentary series has truly been rewarding as someone who has been diving into the music the past couple of years, but not being really familiar with all the things that happened. I still haven't gotten around to listening to all of Catfights and Sweet 7, but I've heard all the prior albums, "Freedom", the leaked MKS tracks and The Lost Tapes. I'm a definite fan of all the ladies. I have noticed though when 1.0 reformed and went through their journey up to now, they always said the other girls were supportive but typically only reference Heidi and Amelle. Has Jade distanced herself from the Sugababes brand?
I don't know exactly, but I assume it has to do with the fact that none of the original members ever worked together with Jade. They are more like distant aquaintances that know of each others existance but don't have any touching points besides that. They all did have much more contact with Amelle and Heidi, they all have worked together for years and basically shared a life.
I do think Jade wants to distance herself a bit from the Sugababes though, as the her time in the band doesn't seem to be the brightest chapter in her life for her (what was thought to be a great opportunity turned into massive outpour of hate towards her and practically ruined her career and passion). She did speak sympathetically about Keisha in particular though recently (it's even shown in this video here).
I remember seeing seeing Aladdin in theatre and Jade’s bio in the program had no mention of Sugababes at all.
None of them "knew" Jade so it would be weird for the OGs to refer to her or her approval at all. It simply wouldn't be relevant to them
Jade does not speak to Heidi or Amelle, she has moved on from Sugababes, she didn't enjoy her time in the group, she has said more than once she is really happy for the original girls and wishes them nothing but the best.
I love how you ended this with a snippet of Flatline. It makes me so excited to see the original Babes return to their former glory again!
Former glory? No hate to Siobhan, whilst she was a founding member, she barely stuck around through any of their pivotal moments
I learned so much from this. Thank you!
ALL OF YOUR SUGABABES DOCUMENTARIES ARE THE BEST BUT THIS IS THE B E S T
Thanks so much for this series
A great final documentary. Thanks for putting together.
Absolutely fantastic series!!! Loved every moment!
thanks so much for all these! especially this last one made me the most emotional and there's some new stuff (to me) in there.
it's a bit sad how they tried with 3 different lineups to break america and it never really happened. the singles off of sweet 7 did pretty well, but i guess the album sales itself made labels not believe in the group anymore (truth is: island, roc and rca were so quick to drop talented girls whose latest singles had made top 10)
also i get the feeling that in the initial "post-Keisha" interviews the girls were hinting a bit to the management being responsible for this lineup change, but in later interviews from the same era they started saying more that it was their own decision and making it look more like Keisha made them quit (which I think was the management's doing, I heard they also made Jade lie and say Keisha was "scary") all in all, i think Keisha and Jade suffered the most from all this (in different ways and for different reasons, of course) and it's a shame. i wanna give these two a big hug.
I loved that album when it came out, I was hoping for "Crash and Burn" to receive a single treatment.
I loved the ending of the video featuring Kesha's bridge from Thank You For The Heartbreak! That song is my favorite out of Sweet 7. And it's a shame that in my country is not available for streaming. For now I can say I can't wait to see the original Sugababes live this spring! 😍
Another amazing doc. You’re so talented!
Aww thanks
These documentaries are so interesting thank you for all uploads on these Pop Artists ❤
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and the live performance of About a Girl around 26:48 features dancers of 2 groups of three-girls that give impression of 2 previous line-ups
I been waiting for your next upload …thank god ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Freedom is truly a great track and one of my Sugababes' fave that I'm still listening to.
Been looking foward to this thank u... Cantwait to see who you cover next.. But theres nobody quite as intersting as the babes
Sooooo interesting! Thanks!! On a side note would you ever do a dive into Girls Aloud Tangled up and Out Of Control eras?? 💗
Maybe
These are so good. I didn't realize the singles were basically all out before the album, no wonder it didn't shift, diminishing returns.
It’s a shame Amelle’s solo career never took off, she had such great star power and potential in this era, but she left it too long to release any music.
I don’t know. I just don’t think she has ‘it’..
@@pt4005 she did at that time
She should have just left before Sweet7 and released her own Album and banged it out. She shouldn’t even have been involved in Sweet7. She should have left around Catlights era
Very insightful. After Keisha’s outing from the band, I made the descision to not pay attention to them anymore. I hadn’t actually heard Freedom before or know Amelle released a solo track. 😂
These documentaries have been fantastic. 👍🏻⭐️
Thanks for watching
Freedom is such a banger though, shame.
Same , love the original Sugababes , legends they are !
Ooooh please do a Lost Tapes ep!!!!!
1:09:00 "Afterward the group began a hiatus to work on solo projects. Amelle worked on solo material, Heidi participated in the eighth series of Dancing On Ice, and Jade competed as a contestant on the first series of Splash."
We've officially entered This Is Spinal Tap territory.
You keep giving the people what they want. Thank you 🙏
woo! another great episode
When you hear Sweet 7 tracks next to flatline, it's a stark reminder of how far the group fell and how the OG members really had the song writing talent the 4th line-up were missing. The Sugababes history is so interesting though and I love hearing the different line-up's attempting different songs.
Thanks for this series of docs, must have been a lot of work!
I know, you know, we all know Heidi served in the group for an extremely long time, technically the one of the most longest serving members BUT musically she worked well as a member to an extent with Keisha, and best with both Mutya and Keisha.
To have Heidi as the most senior/front person was just wrong. I don’t care what led to that outcome, it just matters that it didn’t work. Not only did Jade vocally outdo Heidi anyway, it just felt like a generic and faceless band. Led by whatever the management wanted them to do. Finally but most importantly, fans have a long memory, they’re not going to brush off Keisha’s firing like it was nothing. That was a disrespect to BOTH her and fans.
*Edited to state that Heidi was not the longest serving member
@White Patterns I’m sorry. I got that really wrong. They built the band from the age of 12 😢No wonder Siobhan and Mutya were triggered when Keisha got ousted….
I love all these documentaries on the babes… thank you for the uploads.. I happened to enjoy all the band members and the line up changes … although, my all time fav was always Mutya ❤️
Thanks for watching
This was bloody amazing. Great job🙌🏾❤️🔥🙌🏾
Thank you
Thank you so much for all the hard work!! 💖💖
Great documentary. (As always). Lovely of Amelle to put such praise on MKS, I always thought she came really well in interviews,
The ending had me in tears. Long live the Sugababes! We'll support Keisha, Siobhan and the legendary voice of the group, Mutya.
Amazing work !! Thank you 🔥🔥🔥
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Absolutely awesome series!!
Love this documentary of sweet 7. It's a shame you didn't include the parody of about a girl they did with Katy Brand grow a girl, but you probably already had alot of content to go through. Thanks again
Apart from that, I think no line up change would have gone down much better with the public in that situation, so they were pretty much doomed anyway. Imo, Management should have decided to stick with the one member that was clearly the most interested in carrying on with the Band, besides of beeing an actual founding member of said band. But I am 100% sure the public would definetely not have liked Keisha and two new girls either at all. Because then, Heidi wouldn't have been a part of the band anymore and she probably was the most liked member back then. This would definetely have caused as much drama as Keishas exit did... And probably would have tainted Keisha's reputation further, with the claims she was a bully and difficult to work with already existing and all that. People surely would have blamed it all on Keisha (they did anyway, but with the way her exit was handled, much more people felt sympathetic towards her).
To this day, I am very sure the only line up change that would have been accepted more is if Jade had indeed replaced Amelle. But tbh, I don't see how that would have fitted in the band, as Keisha and Jade both have very powerfull voices and they are the same kind of "type" as a singer, they probably would have drowned each other out and it would have sounded weird to horrible live (production could have made it better on recordings, but there were so many life performances where the voices had been mixed horribly...).
Agreed. Had Keisha stayed and we got two replacements it would have been just as bizarre if not more. I’m not sure Keisha would have had any support. The only thing that would have maybe worked if they went on a hiatus and came back with the originals and revamped what Sweet 7 sounded like.
The way if Mutya hadn't gone on Lorraine to promote Falling and talk about her butt implants we wouldn't be where we are today...
Mutya is the glue of the Sugababes. She was the middle person between Keisha and Siobhan. They both felt comfortable with Mutya after their departures from the band. I never ever thought that Siobhan and Keisha would be back on stage together back when 2009 drama happened…
what caught my attention on the Sugababes by the time of "Angels with dirty faces" was, that they looked like normal girls with a vision and talent ...ages later they d become like all the US girl gropus focused on sexiness to sell records ..and they sold themselves out(i like the songs,though)...it's fascinating how the original line up came together again,started releasing songs like the old days but under a different monicker ,fought to officially have the Sugababes Name and got it ....enuff for a blockbuster documentary !!!
It's such a shame this lineup never really got the chance to show their best. After all the Sweet 7 drama died down they looked and sounded genuinely happy together as a group when promoting and performing Freedom. About A Girl is one of the best Sugababes songs to date, no question. Love these documentaries - keep up the great work!
It was never going to work. They should have created a new band with new name if they wanted to continue.
Part of me absolutely loves About a Girl and part of me hates it. Production is great but cannot get over the terrible lyrics.
I actually agree that About A Girl is one of their best pop singles. It's unfortunate that it's tied to such a fall out and Keisha was gone before she could film the video.
@@MattHamrick I'm similarly torn! It's such a bop, but the lyrics are absolute trash!
About A Girl is actually a great track, I really liked it.
I don't think they were happy around the Freedom time, as soon as Jade could she left and cut ties.
Everyone thought 3.0 were happy and solid at the time and later to find out they largely didn't get along. They do have people around them telling them how to act and to smile smile smile.
Bravo! A stellar ending to the most excellent pop docu-series I have ever seen. If Sugababes ever release their own official doc they'd' better get you onboard to consult.
To this day, I cringe over how Sweet 7 was handled. As a fan of all the line-ups, I truly wish they had taken a break and brought in a therapist to sort out the issues between 3.0. I don't think Amelle & Heidi sought to conivingly oust Keisha. But, I ALSO don't think Keisha is lying when she says they turned their back on her. Heidi & Amelle seem like team players who at end of the day wanted to keep living the dream. Sugababes was Keisha's baby. She never missed a show or appearance. She was fiercely protective of the brand and clearly hated the label pushing them in that RocNation influenced sound and direction. But I ALSO think she got uncomfortable with the emphasis on Amelle. Amelle was pushed to the front after About You Now and especially after Never Leave You went #1. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Add a money hungry label to the mix who controlled their every move and you undoubtedly get a situation beyond repair.
My only hope for Sugababes fans is that the originals give Heidi, Amelle and even Jade their flowers for keeping the name alive and broadening the fanbase. It would be a full circle moment and make all fans, no matter which line-up you preferred, very happy.
I’m really glad that many of us are recognising Keisha’s passion for her childhood band, especially back in 3.0. Keisha wanted harmonies like they once had back in the day and did whatever she could to salvage that Sugababes sound. With 4.0, it weirdly turned out to be quite Diana Ross and the Supremes (Jade’s voice was impressive but overpowering).
Thanks for the lovely comment and very well put about the group.
Thank you for this entire series!!!! Well done!!! Bravo!! I've really really enjoyed the trip down memory lane and will definitely be revisiting the series in future.
Its interesting watching these interviews with life experience and some hindsight....wrt Heidi and Amelle deciding to quit the band etc. etc.... Sugababes was not just the 3 girls - it was them together with the entire corporate machinery behind Sugababes, including management - a whole business with the girls/their songs as their product. So in my mind, if Amelle and Heidi were that unhappy with Sugababes inc and were willing to walk away because of being unhappy, tired whatever reason really, then they should have walked and never looked back.... in my mind Amelle and Heidi must have known/been encouraged that if they made such an epic coup, it would be successful i.e. Keisha would have been ousted, and they would be free to continue to promote Sweet 7 (and continue the band/brand) without her.... 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
In the real world, if I am ready to leave my employer and make such a move then I better be satisfied with leaving - no promises or cajoling would make me go back. going back to continue with Jade seems to me like management had a heavy hand in manipulating Amelle and Jade and making suggestions about the possibility of a Sugababes future without Keisha Siobhan and Mutya left much the same way that I would expect in the real world. the way Amelle and Heidi describe things is not entirely believable... Mutya @50.57 is 100% correct... And after all the financial investment in the sweet 7 album and the contracts signed etc. it seems wild to me that such a coup by Amelle and Heidi (as was presented to the public) was 100% genuine...but what do I know?
Obviously I'm not trying to vilify Amelle and Heidi....unfortunately it was the perfect storm of corporate greed, unmitigated manipulation of whatever situation was going on and the girls' egos, insecurities.... but everything happens for a reason....and now we have Mutya Keisha and Siobhan back together. And I'm here for it!! 😃😃😃😃
@@kelvina7927 I see your perspective. I just believe it was way more nuanced than what we've been told. Neither party was 100% in the right. All in all, I'm glad the originals are back. Their chemistry and voices are unmatched. I just think hardcore fans need some nod to the other girls and what they brought to the group.
What a nice writeup! Trust when I say the original Sugababes' comeback really helped broaden their fanbase. It's why I'm here now 😆
I loved this series. Could you do Girls Aloud or The Saturdays next?♥️
Fabulous work 🎉👌. One of the most interesting stories. Literally swapped all the members and came full circle. I guess they did everything expected at the time. America move, keep on trend with the 2009 music, red-one etc. The amelle taking a mental health break and media continuously banging on about them splitting was the dagger in the sugababes. Then Keisha leaving dropped them to the floor and media again pulling them about 'another new member, fights, not original anymore etc, it was all too much controversy for them to survive. 'freedom' was really good. It's a shame we didn't get the album. Had an edge and gives me a modern 'freak like me' vibes. It was one last push to see if 4.0 could work but they were used and destroyed by the media, it was far too much by then and Radios ditched the new track. What an absolute shame. I wanted this modern, dark edgy sugababes. Please let us hear it someone 🙏. Interesting about amelles later solo work. I didn't know that. Really appreciate your work 🎉
Thank you
I wish we could have heard the album 4.0 came up with in the Freedom era. Surprised none of it ever leaked.
49:10 Susanna Reid: "Now, let's just establish who The Sugababes are..."
Yikes, this interview can't get any more awkward.
52:27 I stand corrected.
Loved it! thank you ❤
Its such a nostalgic gesture that this documentary has come out after so many years & it has come so nicely & Thank you for this amazing work !!.. Wish Heidi, Amelle , Jade could have continued recording under a new band name & atleast could have released one more album before they left music industry once & for all , since the chemistry was amazing with them & they bonded with each other very well.. Even though Sweet 7 did not chart the tops, it is still one of the best Sugababes albums IMO ...Even though i grew up with listening to older albums with Keisha, Mutya , this album had a novel touch & had catchy songs. As they say all good things come to an end, this was the last album that i always cherish
I love how this documentary starts with About A Girl. I still play the Keisha version, as I do think the song is pop perfection and it's a shame Keisha wasn't able to stay in the group she helped create during that lineup.
The songs would have been so much better with Keisha on them (and maybe the era would have been a success)
@@imalwaysright Absolutely. Get Sexy did peak at #2 and probably would've went #1 if there wasn't much competition at the time. I think once Keisha was gone, it was hard for the public to fully digest the new lineup of "Sugababes". Although, they did have two more top ten hits with Jade.
@@jdorecouture16 if we go off the chart placements of the 3.0 singles from Change and C&S, if they released the album in November as originally planned the second and third singles might’ve peaked lower than they did with 4.0. We have to keep in mind that all three singles came before an actual album so it was easier to get top 10 singles since they weren’t already available.
@@jdorecouture16 Get Sexy spent only 5 weeks in the top 40. It was their worst performing lead single since Overload (when they weren't even established).
@@jdorecouture16 Get Sexy, even though it is a bit cringe, is a bop. It fit in with the sound at the time. Keisha's version anyway.
THIS IS THE BEST
I forgot about Freedom! That was such a great track. Shame the album didn't follow.
The thing is I think all six are all great singers with unique tones, but for me 2.0 and 1.0 will forever be THE sugababes. It was a shame how the management treated Keisha towards the end. 4.0 could work if they’re managed well and they become a different group like everyone else said. But I’m happy everyone is doing well for themselves.
Just watched the whole sugababes series! this channel is amazing please keep going with other uk girlgroups
Thank you 🙏
Loved this 💜
42:31 Did anyone notice that the chorus of "Wear My Kiss" is a rip-off of "Finally" by CeCe Peniston?
"finally" is too damn catchy cuz i can hear it too 😆 good thing sugababes didn't get caught by cece herself vs of what happened to lizzo!
The sugababes are legends. No one can replace mutya, Keisha and Heidi. Amelle and Jade are never considered the sugababes in my eyes just substitutes.
What do you call for Heidi? an original? 😂 she was a subtitute as well as amelle and jade. The current line up Mutya, Keisha, Siobhan are the best. Original trio and original sound no debate
The three singles from Sweet 7 were perfects! And freedom too 😍
Mutya's Voice is just..... UGHHHHHHH 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Great video! As much as I loved Heidi and Amelle, and the third lineup was my favourite, it was painful to witness this era as it unfolded. It would never work. It’s kinda of sad seeing Wear My Kiss as their final proper single. The lyrics and the music video are awful and representative of how generic they had become (and this would have been an issue even if Keisha had stayed). A total opposite from how things started.
I really wonder what actually went down and I think we’ll never know. I think there’s a lot of nuance there, and management probably really influenced the girls’ relationships. As Keisha said more recently, she had the most fun with Heidi and Amelle and I really believe they had a great time together. I wish the band could have ended without this sour chapter, but I guess this was all needed for the (current) original lineup to be back and for things to come full circle.
They really didn't have a great time together. That line up never gelled, as time went on the cracks began to show more and more.
Keisha is just being diplomatic saying that, no doubt they had fun at times but overall she has no desire to work with them again. That should tell you something.
Maybe I'm one of the very few human beings that really LOVED AND ENJOYED the Sweet 7 era + Freedom. Ok, was kinda rude how they sacked Keisha from the group, and the sound of that new material was not too original, but was vhat was sounding on the radio those days, they just played safe after the Catfights and Spotlights fail. And in case Keisha,wouldn't had left, it would-ve been released the same album but with her voice instead of Jade's. Freedom sounded nice to me, it was like a "new direction", but group's fate was already sealed... was a bit sad to me that they didn't tried harder to survive. But of course right now I really enjoy the coneback of the original line up
You're not alone.. Heidi was my fave in the group.. So I was willing to support them still... But management and marketing should've put Heidi front and center because she was the leader at that point
This was my favorite album. I was obsessed with get sexy!! Such a great album!!!
Bad taste.
Also glad this happened cause it brought back the original and real sugababes.
HAJ should have gone on with their own name.
Fully agree, without Keisha they sounded so generic, they lost that babes sound
"HAJ should have gone on with their own name."
Sure, they could've called themselves The Splendababes.🥁
[crickets]
Is this thing on?
sugabaes - a new sub-unit from the sugababes brand!
They could of called themselves anything, they still would of bombed.
@@redlightmax The Othababes maybe? Or, in MKS fashion, Heidi Jade Amelle, that flows very well! Orrrr, the HAJ abbreviation spelt out as Aychayjay.
Jade is such an amazing singer but like she said the circumstances were just wrong and she was brought into a toxic management group. And also Heidi deserves her accolades but unfortunately I don't think she'll get them because of the role she seemed to play in Keisha being removed
Even as a Sugababes fan I have never heard "Freedom" before 😳😳
Amelle gives off that “I AM the Sugababes. Without me there is no Sugababes” energy.