So happy i could help with this! Thing is ripping and those rain runs where so sketchy lmao.. Maybe get a steering stabilizer 😅 ... and remeber line amps is more speed/accel and phase is torque/accel - agression/response (to a degree). Glad this thing did its job. That upgraded rotor from EnC supposedly unlocks a ton more rpm! Definitely considering it for my build aswell.
65 doesn't sound bad in a car, but its fast on a dirt bike and hyper speed on a pit bike. The closer to the ground, the faster it feels. It probably feels more like 100mph
The hydro brakes from Ride or Die work very good. My son and I aren't hitting 66mph but from 31mph with my 180lbs on it and hitting brakes hard it def has no issues.
Pat is Back 👍... And i feel u on bikes being down! U b back, FYI u showed me something different just taking that back wheel off adjusting a chain. I never do it
I have a similar build and have zoom brakes and where way under powered for the speed but I upgraded the rotors to 220mm and the stopping power is night and day. I can easily lock up the tires with one finger. I was worried I was going to have to upgrade the brakes but just the rotors was plenty. Mountain bike brakes are fine with large rotors. The 220mm rotors do look kind of ridiculous, and I think 203mm would be fine. Still a huge upgrade to 160 or 180.
Thought about doing this, but larger rotors seem like it would for the caliper out to make contact with the RSF wheels. Do you have RsF wheels? I can see how that would work on an MX650 wheel though
Something like this happened to me where the freewheel wasn't connected to the wheel because my motor was destroying it with the torque and the chain was tight. (it was a kunray kr5v with a fardriver)
I’ve never tryed the enc extreme brakes they look good but I’ve been using generic pit bike brakes from Amazon and they have a lot of stopping power, but when I wheelie they aren’t the best but they have good stopping power. Edit: but they have a lot of throw not that much ch catch and they don’t feel to to good but they have pretty good stoping power.
Need to do the same run but on a flat road to get a more accurate speed. All your runs were on a down slope road, reaching top speed at the very end of the slope. Be careful, this bikes are very light, surprised no speed wobble.
@@diyadventures9138 yes, I need a stabilizer fabricated to the frame.. I’ll find a wider open road that doesn’t have too much traffic, just a bit hard to find in my area. I’ll have an update video when I turn the power up more and do another run on a different road to show you it does the same speed regardless..
Muffles fuck da neighbors 😂😂❤❤. Love ya pat. I’m up to 7 modified razors now and I’m building another one for a buddy. But we say those same word when we go for night rides at like 1am 😂😂. Fuck em
Hey Pat, Ive got a question for you. How hard is it to generally build a Razor Supermoto? Im planning to make up enough money to buy a 76v build off of Electro & Co.
@@ChrisRidesRazors not hard at all, just expensive lol. The E&C kits make it super easy for those who are intimidated by wiring or tuning, since they do it all for you and make it plug and play
@@jmhodge12755 right, but do you know if it would fit with RSF650 wheels like this? I know people put 203 rotors on MX650 and MX500 stock front wheels all the time (12”), but the RSF are so wide and only 10” diameter
@@Monkey.t4 same exact parts, yes. Total build including fork, RSF wheels, Mototec Fork, Huge Amorge 72V battery, ND72530 controller, EC4P motor, 35 drivetrain, etc I wanna say about $2,400 in parts..
Can I have your insight on the btr power battery packs? I’d be willing to pay for your time/knowledge. I also live locally so I works be happy to meet up
I went with that route a long time ago due to a lower budget, got me through a build but the first one failed after about a month. Second one is still good for now, but it’s a gamble.. just keep saving for at least an Amorge or electro
The R&D 710mm “Heavy Duty” fork definitely does. They recommend combining it with an extended swing arm. I’m not sure about the standard 630mm fork though.. I recommend sending them a message if you’re interested!
USE PIT BIKE BRAKES (THEY ARE FOR REAL MOTORCYCLES, NOT BICYCLES) You can do a full set for less than the E+C MOUNTAIN BIKE BRAKES and AMAZON has ALL the parts. You need 51mm hole space for rear caliper, left hand lever- ATV 10mm banjo master cylinder for rear, 55.1mm brake line with 10mm banjo fitment, the front brake comes completed as a monkey bike dual piston setup already bled with the hole spacing you need for the front forks you put on. Generally stock razor is 51mm but it is smaller spacing for pit bike forks. And the only other thing you need is the thicker rotor which is used on the mega moto 80 mini bike from factory as well as other mini bikes... These brakes have slowed me down from 65mph hundreds of times. They are very stout, bleed easily, make the bike look like a REAL vehicle, and the rotors are literally .5mm off on hole size so a quick step bit for the mounting holes would make it easier, although you don't actually HAVE to drill them for them to fit. I fir one without drilling and its a tight fit but still works. Drilling makes it so easy to mount and torque the bolts... DON'T get Electro brakes or ANY MORE MOUNTAIN BIKE VARIATIONS... GET THE DIRT BIKE PIT BIKE BRAKES AND YOU WILL SAVE YOUR BIKE, YOUR SAFETY, AND THE TROUBLE FROM MESSING WITH UNDERPOWERED STUFF FOR BICYCLES!!
I have pit bike brakes on my MX650 with larger rotors and yes, they do stop very well in comparison.. but I just don’t like the feedback feel with the lever. I’m trying to find an in between solution like 4 piston calipers and maybe 203mm rotors
@@PatOutdoors There are some GROM upgrade kits out there with fancy billet aluminum rotors and the calipers are pretty stout. Im not sure I understand though, with my dual piston pitbike brakes, either front or rear, I get some decent feedback from them. What kind of lines are you running on that setup, and did you size the master cylinder to your application? Largest rotors are always best. I wonder how big we could actually go on these bikes. I run 180s from the minibike setups. Theyre about 2.5mil thick and I feel like I could go up a few mm but unsure where to find bigger ones with the right bolt pattern.
I run a 10t on the motor and a 47t on the wheel, Enc recommends a 1:8 up to a 1:15 that just seems krazy to me, I use a website called blocklayer they have the best chain calculator around and many others if you have a jack shaft, it will give you the speed correction, it takes chain size into consideration worth a look, I really just wanted to know what your front sprocket was a 9 or 10? So i could punch it in the calculator and see your motor real motor rpm.
I just do it on the end of the road outside my neighborhood. Goes 1-2 MPH slower the other way 🤷🏾♂️, but I would slam into a curb lol. I’ll do the next one on a wider more open flat road when I turn the power up more.
So happy i could help with this! Thing is ripping and those rain runs where so sketchy lmao.. Maybe get a steering stabilizer 😅 ... and remeber line amps is more speed/accel and phase is torque/accel - agression/response (to a degree). Glad this thing did its job. That upgraded rotor from EnC supposedly unlocks a ton more rpm! Definitely considering it for my build aswell.
Woah pat again with a new top speed seems like tons of fun! Have fun with it dude! Can’t wait to see what’s next! Hope you continue upgrades!
65 doesn't sound bad in a car, but its fast on a dirt bike and hyper speed on a pit bike. The closer to the ground, the faster it feels. It probably feels more like 100mph
It felt.. exciting 😂
Woah pat again with a new top speed seems like tons of fun! Have fun with it dude!😄
The hydro brakes from Ride or Die work very good. My son and I aren't hitting 66mph but from 31mph with my 180lbs on it and hitting brakes hard it def has no issues.
i haft to build one of these 59 MPH in the rain is impressive you went hard 😎👍🏼❤️🔥💪🏾 66mph 💨
Pat is Back 👍... And i feel u on bikes being down! U b back, FYI u showed me something different just taking that back wheel off adjusting a chain. I never do it
Nice work bro!! You're just as crazy as I am testing bikes in the rain lol
Hell yeah, Pat! Run a lower gear ratio, mid to low 5's. You'll get into the 70's.
I have a similar build and have zoom brakes and where way under powered for the speed but I upgraded the rotors to 220mm and the stopping power is night and day. I can easily lock up the tires with one finger. I was worried I was going to have to upgrade the brakes but just the rotors was plenty. Mountain bike brakes are fine with large rotors. The 220mm rotors do look kind of ridiculous, and I think 203mm would be fine. Still a huge upgrade to 160 or 180.
Thought about doing this, but larger rotors seem like it would for the caliper out to make contact with the RSF wheels. Do you have RsF wheels? I can see how that would work on an MX650 wheel though
Thats impressive! 🫡
First!!! Love your Content!! Keep up the great work!
Just go with pitbike brakes from ride or die. The pads are huge and they work great.
Something like this happened to me where the freewheel wasn't connected to the wheel because my motor was destroying it with the torque and the chain was tight. (it was a kunray kr5v with a fardriver)
I’ve never tryed the enc extreme brakes they look good but I’ve been using generic pit bike brakes from Amazon and they have a lot of stopping power, but when I wheelie they aren’t the best but they have good stopping power.
Edit: but they have a lot of throw not that much ch catch and they don’t feel to to good but they have pretty good stoping power.
Need to do the same run but on a flat road to get a more accurate speed. All your runs were on a down slope road, reaching top speed at the very end of the slope. Be careful, this bikes are very light, surprised no speed wobble.
@@diyadventures9138 yes, I need a stabilizer fabricated to the frame.. I’ll find a wider open road that doesn’t have too much traffic, just a bit hard to find in my area. I’ll have an update video when I turn the power up more and do another run on a different road to show you it does the same speed regardless..
66 fire dude!
That’s beautiful 🥹
Is there a community or some type of thing where I can get help with issues on these mini motos?
I love this bike
(73 frame in the back? 🤔)
LMAO bro shhh
Muffles fuck da neighbors 😂😂❤❤. Love ya pat. I’m up to 7 modified razors now and I’m building another one for a buddy. But we say those same word when we go for night rides at like 1am 😂😂. Fuck em
When you bought your battery, did you pay through PayPal? Because they want me to pay through PayPal.
Hey Pat, Ive got a question for you. How hard is it to generally build a Razor Supermoto? Im planning to make up enough money to buy a 76v build off of Electro & Co.
@@ChrisRidesRazors not hard at all, just expensive lol. The E&C kits make it super easy for those who are intimidated by wiring or tuning, since they do it all for you and make it plug and play
Yo, how much did it cost?
Use magura 203 brakes 203 means the rotor size
@@jmhodge12755 right, but do you know if it would fit with RSF650 wheels like this? I know people put 203 rotors on MX650 and MX500 stock front wheels all the time (12”), but the RSF are so wide and only 10” diameter
Will this work on mx650 and how much total was the build.
@@Monkey.t4 same exact parts, yes. Total build including fork, RSF wheels, Mototec Fork, Huge Amorge 72V battery, ND72530 controller, EC4P motor, 35 drivetrain, etc I wanna say about $2,400 in parts..
@@PatOutdoors alr
You are going to have to slightly modify the frame if you want to run a 40ah in a mx frame.
@@Rippinandfishin totally forgot this @monkey.t4 you may only be able to fit up to a 28AH without modification to the frame.. on an MX650 or MX500
@@PatOutdoors Yeah a 28ah will fit with ease. I think max would be 36ah.
Very nice
Can I have your insight on the btr power battery packs? I’d be willing to pay for your time/knowledge. I also live locally so I works be happy to meet up
I went with that route a long time ago due to a lower budget, got me through a build but the first one failed after about a month. Second one is still good for now, but it’s a gamble.. just keep saving for at least an Amorge or electro
@@PatOutdoors appreciate the insight, love seeing all you’re doing on the page!
Does the ride or die shocks make the bike sit higher??
The R&D 710mm “Heavy Duty” fork definitely does. They recommend combining it with an extended swing arm. I’m not sure about the standard 630mm fork though.. I recommend sending them a message if you’re interested!
Fuck the neighbors 🤣💀👌🏽💯 Karen’s have to complain about something it’s a E-bike 🤦🏻♂️
Is the mototec good for builds like this one
It’s smaller so it has less space.. funny thing you ask.. it’s my next video. I’m working on one right now
USE PIT BIKE BRAKES (THEY ARE FOR REAL MOTORCYCLES, NOT BICYCLES) You can do a full set for less than the E+C MOUNTAIN BIKE BRAKES and AMAZON has ALL the parts. You need 51mm hole space for rear caliper, left hand lever- ATV 10mm banjo master cylinder for rear, 55.1mm brake line with 10mm banjo fitment, the front brake comes completed as a monkey bike dual piston setup already bled with the hole spacing you need for the front forks you put on. Generally stock razor is 51mm but it is smaller spacing for pit bike forks. And the only other thing you need is the thicker rotor which is used on the mega moto 80 mini bike from factory as well as other mini bikes... These brakes have slowed me down from 65mph hundreds of times. They are very stout, bleed easily, make the bike look like a REAL vehicle, and the rotors are literally .5mm off on hole size so a quick step bit for the mounting holes would make it easier, although you don't actually HAVE to drill them for them to fit. I fir one without drilling and its a tight fit but still works. Drilling makes it so easy to mount and torque the bolts... DON'T get Electro brakes or ANY MORE MOUNTAIN BIKE VARIATIONS... GET THE DIRT BIKE PIT BIKE BRAKES AND YOU WILL SAVE YOUR BIKE, YOUR SAFETY, AND THE TROUBLE FROM MESSING WITH UNDERPOWERED STUFF FOR BICYCLES!!
I have pit bike brakes on my MX650 with larger rotors and yes, they do stop very well in comparison.. but I just don’t like the feedback feel with the lever. I’m trying to find an in between solution like 4 piston calipers and maybe 203mm rotors
@@PatOutdoors There are some GROM upgrade kits out there with fancy billet aluminum rotors and the calipers are pretty stout. Im not sure I understand though, with my dual piston pitbike brakes, either front or rear, I get some decent feedback from them. What kind of lines are you running on that setup, and did you size the master cylinder to your application? Largest rotors are always best. I wonder how big we could actually go on these bikes. I run 180s from the minibike setups. Theyre about 2.5mil thick and I feel like I could go up a few mm but unsure where to find bigger ones with the right bolt pattern.
anyone else been watching since he used the pigtail connector to connect a rc battery?
@@Canadian_72vRazor Bro! That’s a long time ago lol
@@PatOutdoors yeah lol when we were all exited for you to hit 20mph on stock
True OG!!
What’s the point of a split sprocket?
@@javon161 cheap to swap out, plenty of different size/gearing options
What volt should you charg your battery
84 volts for a 72v battery
What gear ratio are you running on your ecp4?
NOT RECOMMENDED, simply for experiment - low 5's
I run a 10t on the motor and a 47t on the wheel, Enc recommends a 1:8 up to a 1:15 that just seems krazy to me, I use a website called blocklayer they have the best chain calculator around and many others if you have a jack shaft, it will give you the speed correction, it takes chain size into consideration worth a look, I really just wanted to know what your front sprocket was a 9 or 10? So i could punch it in the calculator and see your motor real motor rpm.
@@shaner.5 11T
Do your speed runs on a flat. You’re always doing them on a downhill 😂
I just do it on the end of the road outside my neighborhood. Goes 1-2 MPH slower the other way 🤷🏾♂️, but I would slam into a curb lol. I’ll do the next one on a wider more open flat road when I turn the power up more.
There no way make it to 70phm bike is way too small 😂
@@powchainsamaniego6744 it will once I turn the power up more and swap the rotor and shaft for the motor.