Oh man! I started with the 202 and Acid Pro in 2000. That gritty sound can't be found on new gear. I wish I still had my old drum kits I made on that thing. Thanks for reminding me that good music can be made simply!
I can’t front I have had this thing for a whole and a few times felt like I was tired of it but never could bring myself to sell it. The pitch shift alone, and sampling the master bus from any in-the-box mix to hear the difference never stops being fun. I have so many tricks up my sleeve with just this little box alone. I remember using the internal mic on this to sample the atmosphere of me walking inside the mall once. It is great as a cheap FX processor.
Been watching your vids since I went from a musician to a producer and you've helped me an unreal amount, almost as much as my university! Been looking at getting an SP for awhile but seeing the dr202 made up my mind... This couldn't have come at a better time. Keep up the blessed work as always and thank you for the unknowing help, peace and love
Great video. I have the exact same combo from back in my club days. As a drummer in a cover band in the 90's the setup was instrumental in covering Korn, NIN and Limp Bizkit tunes. Loved the versatility and sound, especially the 808 kick.
Brethren, the SP-202 has always commanded respect from creatives. And with these examples, a whole new wave of creatives will gravitate to using it. Especially the (SP-DR Duo). As a result, I guess I should prioritize acquiring one sooner than later now. Great Research, and I look forward to hearing more from “Scrapper”. Peace...Netm8kr 👍🏾✌🏾
Hi. Your description of the difference in the Pitch Function from unit to unit is the same as Boss's Digital Delay Pedals for guitar. When you adjust the time knob on earlier models the transition is smooth; no extra noises. On the newer models there's artifacts where you can hear the processor trying to keep up. An excellent thing to point out!!! Cheers!
Through the MS-1 the drums sounds even more rugged than the SP-202 without flams. Surprised you don't own an MS-1 too. The un-quantized sequencer of the MS-1 is dope. (No effects but, never cared as that's what DAWs are for I always thought. The simplicity of the MS-1 is part of the allure yet heads slept on it). It was my first sampler back in 98 before putting the MPC 2000XL on layaway and, I still use it with the XL and MPC One).
I set it up for our drummer back in the day to an Octopad with a drumstick so he could trigger samples during songs. We used some for intros and weird stuff.
The SP-202 has a great, punchy, warm sound. Not all vintage units sound good, but this one sure does. I found out about the 202 through the Cratediggers doco on J Dilla. Isn't it weird the Roland/Boss got the pitch shifting right on the first SP model, the 202 and has never improved on that 'till this day! How is this possible? Roland have dropped the ball on that one!
Sounds like the 202 retains the cleaner quality when pitch shifting because it shifts tempo as well to match the pitch shift. Cool feature but different thing to just pitch shift
Soooo impressive bro, i managed to find both an sp 202 and Dr 202 online, cant wait too get these oldskool Analog machines together and form Voltron!!🤖
Wow I wasn't sure the 202's still existed like a lot of 90s gear had these internal batteries that were like ticking time bombs, like my brother stuck his korg into storage and that internal battery ate the the whole inside away with acid pouring over the internals. Big thumbs up that Boss gear from the 90s still works today!
@@rashodlewis2918 Although what I am talking about are these internal batteries in 90s synths for clocking, basically even if you never use anything but a wall plug on a synth from the early 90s you could have a battery acid disaster from these tiny internal watch sized batteries. The design of boss is such that they are able to operate with just AA type batteries the designers at Boss were really forward thinking in terms of building their kit to last a real real long time.
On the 404 and the 303 when your using the pitch effect you gotta turn the wet/dry all the way to wet. Its like some sort of pitch delay effect but if you make it only the wet signal it works as just a pitch effect without the slapback delay thing
Bless you mate, I'm feeling your love for these bad boys. I only have the DR 202, I can confirm that YES it's the dirtiest digital drum machine I own in my collection of Romplers. I love it, sadly the price of the SP 202 is insane In Berlin, I got the Doc for 100 Euros in mint condition 5 years ago.
I just picked up the DR because I had the SP for so long, and like you said, to bring them together. I didn't even know they could link up through MIDI. That's wild.
dusting off my fogotten sp-202. stumbld upon your video. thanks for that positive energy! makes me wanna make some beats with my kinda busted up, half functioning 202 even more. all the best from berlin!
This thing is a hidden beast for 90's hiphop drums / and some sounds - had the pleasure of working with one for a while and honestly look for this thing everywhere!!! Coupled with the 303 as well makes a dangerous combo!
Dude! I've had the 202 and the Doc for years! Didn't realize their potential like this! I'm lmao I still have them! And the 303! Thanks for this video 👍
Yup this is a sign for me 🤦🏽♂️🙏🏽 I was looking at Sp 555., I had the sp 202 , I currently have the 404. Aye bro, I’m glad I’m not the only gear junky. Dr groove is my first instrument and I still have it. Also wow!!!! I never sync the 202 and Dr groove together after 19years later. Thanks
Bad comparison regarding the pitch effects. The 404 and 303 maintain the BPM during the "pitch" and that's why you get those artifacts but they seem to go away when you stop fiddlin' with the knob. It's more like a time stretch. The 202 however, actually pitch and it slows the BPM down as well.
I havr a chance to get one for a good price and I discovered your channel by doing my homework and google everything about it to hype myself lol ! Didnt knew about the Dr-202 sync with it and stuff, fits perfect, they were totally made to be together !
Just a 20 second intro beat I made for this youtube channel. for my full beats check out or follow me here - open.spotify.com/artist/5OEoLY9Bk0QfJbPH7uqxuZ?si=kqf2cbqUQcmmxyQpZmLi4w
Now thats a mad lab! I still use my sp303 Dr Sample and my PCM JX-305 groovesynth! Great video! Do not turn your back on the tools of yesterday. Many of these devices are responsible for earth moving music.
Congrats on the SP Trio, man! The 202 is great for crunching drums. Hey, on those yellow pads on the 303, Lysol makes a multi-surface cleaner w/ hydrogen peroxide (not the bathroom cleaner). I sprayed a good amount on a rag and gave it a good wiping. It took about 40% of that yellowing off. No joke. I was so impressed, I cleaned my entire studio with it. It was safe on everything. Try it out.
Holy crap, that looks like the one I sold. Is it the one missing the battery door? LOL Yeah, I do miss it. Definitely has its own unmistakable sound when you live tweak it. Nothing quite like it. Good thing I found a good home for it ))
@@Verysickbeats Thanks man, I enjoyed your video by the way! Still new to this stuff. These things can be complicated when your a beginner. Thanks for your help!
Wow I had no idea how much punchier the 202 could be vs the 404. Shoot, I've still got an old SP-202 sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I should bust that old rascal out for a little jam.
Yo shoutout to u lol I jus got hip to da DR-202 and copped it today. Found one in mint condition on eBay. Was lookin to get a mpc2000xl but it’s too expensive at the moment. Anyone looking for an affordable sequencer or whatever, tap in wit da 202.
Mad respect for a guy who knows their machine's traits and personality. And a pretty slick beatmaker at that, too.
much thanks
Oh man! I started with the 202 and Acid Pro in 2000. That gritty sound can't be found on new gear. I wish I still had my old drum kits I made on that thing. Thanks for reminding me that good music can be made simply!
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Me too! I wish I could find a memory card for my 202.
@@djfloodmusic same here , rare and expensive :(
This machine is so cool that sampling any break at 7.81 kHz directly transform your home studio into an Universal Zulu Nation block party… love it!
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So Dope! The SP-202 and the The DR-202 formed like Voltron!
yessir
Nice work picking one up! That beat was silky smooth
Appreciate that
Your enthusiasm and love for this gear is contagious man! Bless your kind soul
Thank you kindly!
I've owned my SP-202 since 2002 and it still works perfectly. Your video inspired me to purchase the DR-202 about 20 minutes ago. Lol! I'm so stoked!
have fun
I regret not picking up one of these when they were cheap. The price has been skyrocketing like crazy
will prolly keep going up too
I paid almost 400$ back in 1998 for the dr groove 202 but I did't get the sampler!!!!
i got mine for like 100 bucks back in the day and still use it almost every beat to process shit
No joke, I was lucky enough to scoop one 3 years ago for a buck w the mem card - the 202
I paid $250 used in decent shape with memory card a couple months ago. Not a bad price imo
I used to have the Roland MS-1, and it was "replaced" by the SP-202. It's a very good sampler for beginners & experts alike!
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If you turn third knob on SP-303+404 (in PITCH effect) You can set ratio between dry and pitched signal so that unwanted artefacts dissapear
thanks for sharing
I paid $20 for one used in perfect condition at Sam Ash a few years back
There ya go homie!!!
nice!
Are you for real?! I'll offer you $25, lol!
Even out of my laptop speakers you can hear the 202's snare is "snappier"
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@@Verysickbeats do you use trigger or gate more whats difference? Great video btw
Oh yeah congrats filt! Scrapper Sounds nice lol i'm glad he and doc finally came together.
Me too! LOL
Man the pitch on that 202 has me sold 🔥. A homie of mine gifted me a sp 505 and I'm in love with it
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Dang! You are definitely scientist with these beat machines man. Wow!
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I can’t front I have had this thing for a whole and a few times felt like I was tired of it but never could bring myself to sell it. The pitch shift alone, and sampling the master bus from any in-the-box mix to hear the difference never stops being fun. I have so many tricks up my sleeve with just this little box alone. I remember using the internal mic on this to sample the atmosphere of me walking inside the mall once. It is great as a cheap FX processor.
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Been watching your vids since I went from a musician to a producer and you've helped me an unreal amount, almost as much as my university! Been looking at getting an SP for awhile but seeing the dr202 made up my mind... This couldn't have come at a better time. Keep up the blessed work as always and thank you for the unknowing help, peace and love
my pleasure
Great video. I have the exact same combo from back in my club days. As a drummer in a cover band in the 90's the setup was instrumental in covering Korn, NIN and Limp Bizkit tunes. Loved the versatility and sound, especially the 808 kick.
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DR202 and SP202 are all you need to make sick beats. They're my go-to money makers.
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Just picked up a 202 today as a companion to my 404a. Can't wait to get it in the mail
have fun
@@Verysickbeats Thanks!
Brethren, the SP-202 has always commanded respect from creatives. And with these examples, a whole new wave of creatives will gravitate to using it. Especially the (SP-DR Duo). As a result, I guess I should prioritize acquiring one sooner than later now. Great Research, and I look forward to hearing more from “Scrapper”. Peace...Netm8kr 👍🏾✌🏾
Bro you would kill it sir!
Hi. Your description of the difference in the Pitch Function from unit to unit is the same as Boss's Digital Delay Pedals for guitar. When you adjust the time knob on earlier models the transition is smooth; no extra noises. On the newer models there's artifacts where you can hear the processor trying to keep up. An excellent thing to point out!!! Cheers!
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Through the MS-1 the drums sounds even more rugged than the SP-202 without flams. Surprised you don't own an MS-1 too. The un-quantized sequencer of the MS-1 is dope. (No effects but, never cared as that's what DAWs are for I always thought. The simplicity of the MS-1 is part of the allure yet heads slept on it). It was my first sampler back in 98 before putting the MPC 2000XL on layaway and, I still use it with the XL and MPC One).
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I set it up for our drummer back in the day to an Octopad with a drumstick so he could trigger samples during songs. We used some for intros and weird stuff.
dope! would love to see footage of that
The SP-202 has a great, punchy, warm sound. Not all vintage units sound good, but this one sure does. I found out about the 202 through the Cratediggers doco on J Dilla.
Isn't it weird the Roland/Boss got the pitch shifting right on the first SP model, the 202 and has never improved on that 'till this day! How is this possible? Roland have dropped the ball on that one!
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sp 202's sample rates and algorithms are so much better than these 404's and cant no one change my mind
got my sp202 and it’s on the wayyy. thx for this vid fam
my pleasure have fun
@@Verysickbeats 💚
the dr 202 is still my first and only drum machine
respect
Sounds like the 202 retains the cleaner quality when pitch shifting because it shifts tempo as well to match the pitch shift. Cool feature but different thing to just pitch shift
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Pretty cool that on doc, the buttons on the bottom are arranged like a piano 🎹
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Going to dig mine out again. Little gem hidden away. 😁👍
have fun
SP Gang! SP-202, SP-606, SP-404A
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Soooo impressive bro, i managed to find both an sp 202 and Dr 202 online, cant wait too get these oldskool Analog machines together and form Voltron!!🤖
have fun
Wow I wasn't sure the 202's still existed like a lot of 90s gear had these internal batteries that were like ticking time bombs, like my brother stuck his korg into storage and that internal battery ate the the whole inside away with acid pouring over the internals. Big thumbs up that Boss gear from the 90s still works today!
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That's a tragedy!
I use power plug. I rarely use batteries.
@@rashodlewis2918 Although what I am talking about are these internal batteries in 90s synths for clocking, basically even if you never use anything but a wall plug on a synth from the early 90s you could have a battery acid disaster from these tiny internal watch sized batteries. The design of boss is such that they are able to operate with just AA type batteries the designers at Boss were really forward thinking in terms of building their kit to last a real real long time.
Love mine too.. the pitch/time stretching is awesome.. for the drums I also Love to sample in Lofi1.. so gritty and crunchy ❤
yessir
On the 404 and the 303 when your using the pitch effect you gotta turn the wet/dry all the way to wet. Its like some sort of pitch delay effect but if you make it only the wet signal it works as just a pitch effect without the slapback delay thing
true but still not as good
@@Verysickbeats yeh still not as dope as the 202 the 202 just does it better but atleast can still pitch stuff on the other ones
I own a 202 got it new when it came out. Never ever needed another sampler. You gotta have the card for the second banks though
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Reunion! Best reason 💙
sp202 and dr202 belong together LOL
SP202 is under rated!👌🏻
yessir
thank you so much for this!!!! great overview, has helped me out a lot!!!!
Glad it helped!
Bless you mate, I'm feeling your love for these bad boys. I only have the DR 202, I can confirm that YES it's the dirtiest digital drum machine I own in my collection of Romplers. I love it, sadly the price of the SP 202 is insane In Berlin, I got the Doc for 100 Euros in mint condition 5 years ago.
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Pitch on 202 is the reason why it’s the best roland/boss device at that outside of the v9000.
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I just picked up the DR because I had the SP for so long, and like you said, to bring them together. I didn't even know they could link up through MIDI. That's wild.
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dusting off my fogotten sp-202. stumbld upon your video. thanks for that positive energy! makes me wanna make some beats with my kinda busted up, half functioning 202 even more. all the best from berlin!
Go for it!
your channel is amazing , the content always push me to create new music
I appreciate that!
Noob: how do I ____on my mpc? Me: ask Jfilt
LOL
I need to get one of those. Been putting it off for years because I already have the sp808.👊
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The 202 is crazy.....congratulations!!
much thnx
I was thinking of getting that just saw it on REVERB 👍🏾
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I have the SP202 since the day it came out,and it works perfectly!
nice
These were my first pieces of gear, too. Ahhh to be 16 again. Great video--thanks!
my pleasure
This thing is a hidden beast for 90's hiphop drums / and some sounds - had the pleasure of working with one for a while and honestly look for this thing everywhere!!! Coupled with the 303 as well makes a dangerous combo!
yessir
Now I want it too!!! Pitch is amazing! Gooood!!! Thanks for your video)))) 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
ее тяжеловато найти! но стоит поискать. тоже давно ищу
my pleasure
@@Verysickbeats thanks for the video brother, congratulations with your purchase! I’m in search for this sampler too:)
Yep. I definitely dig more the 202 pitch more
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oooo nice man you got the fam together! I rock my 202 on the left, 303 on the right, and my 404sx in the middle ;)
Nice!!
Dude! I've had the 202 and the Doc for years! Didn't realize their potential like this! I'm lmao I still have them! And the 303! Thanks for this video 👍
my pleasure
Yup this is a sign for me 🤦🏽♂️🙏🏽 I was looking at Sp 555., I had the sp 202 , I currently have the 404. Aye bro, I’m glad I’m not the only gear junky. Dr groove is my first instrument and I still have it. Also wow!!!! I never sync the 202 and Dr groove together after 19years later. Thanks
Nice!!
My 202 got fried somehow. I need to get it looked at... Very sick beat- Subscribed!
sorry to hear that but thanks for subbing
Very nice you have inspired me to mess around with my old SP505 using million other devices. Thank you
my pleasure
Bad comparison regarding the pitch effects. The 404 and 303 maintain the BPM during the "pitch" and that's why you get those artifacts but they seem to go away when you stop fiddlin' with the knob. It's more like a time stretch. The 202 however, actually pitch and it slows the BPM down as well.
This was a comparison on what pitch does for each regardless of your feedback but thanks for watching
Very sick indeed my friend. I must now purchase both the doc and the scrapper for my collection. Cheers
have fun
I have both of these and never thought of this. Thank you!!!
You are welcome!
Have a 303 on the way. Dig your channel
thanks and congrats
awesome beats!
Thanks for listening
My 202 definitely has its place in my workflow, its flaws are its strengths!
agree
holy crap, that dr202 integration is incredible 🤯i just got an sp202 and i had no idea, i'm gonna get a midi cable stat!!!
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I’ve always wanted to make that combo happen...would love to see more beat with that set up
stay tuned
What an dope combo!
indeed
Yes..i have 2 sp202s and a dr202 since 1997?...never hooked them up together ❤👏
would love to see some content on how you work them
Informative af without being boring. Awesome vid
I appreciate that!
such a cool little combo, love the old school vibe!
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I havr a chance to get one for a good price and I discovered your channel by doing my homework and google everything about it to hype myself lol !
Didnt knew about the Dr-202 sync with it and stuff, fits perfect, they were totally made to be together !
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Where can I listen to the full version of the intro song and more wonderful tracks like it? Were you the man behind that lovely song?
Just a 20 second intro beat I made for this youtube channel. for my full beats check out or follow me here - open.spotify.com/artist/5OEoLY9Bk0QfJbPH7uqxuZ?si=kqf2cbqUQcmmxyQpZmLi4w
Wow the pitch feature blows my mind. I found a 202 at a pawn shop for $150 . I gonna have to go get it now
At that price, get it immediately if it's still there!!!! LOL
real fire color scheme too
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Dope pairing! Great vibes and hope you do some more with that combo!
More to come! ruclips.net/video/ja5bWaDKip0/видео.html
Now thats a mad lab! I still use my sp303 Dr Sample and my PCM JX-305 groovesynth! Great video! Do not turn your back on the tools of yesterday. Many of these devices are responsible for earth moving music.
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That 202 is special! If Roland would add the ability to change the sample sample rate hz and bit rate to 1, 4, 8, 12, 16, or 24.
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Congrats on the SP Trio, man! The 202 is great for crunching drums. Hey, on those yellow pads on the 303, Lysol makes a multi-surface cleaner w/ hydrogen peroxide (not the bathroom cleaner). I sprayed a good amount on a rag and gave it a good wiping. It took about 40% of that yellowing off. No joke. I was so impressed, I cleaned my entire studio with it. It was safe on everything. Try it out.
Thanks for the info even tho i like the color LOL
I go 2 of sp202 and i can tell you right away - sound is thicc af
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Holy crap, that looks like the one I sold. Is it the one missing the battery door? LOL Yeah, I do miss it. Definitely has its own unmistakable sound when you live tweak it. Nothing quite like it. Good thing I found a good home for it ))
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Also my first two pieces of equipment coming from vinyl and Crossfade mixers...✌🏽
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dr 202 and the sp 202 looking cool together
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They don't make them like they use to love your video
much thanks
Icy man! Now explain the difference between a sampler and a sequencer.
A sampler can sample external audio sources, a sequencer can arrange samples(via midi) or internal sounds
@@Verysickbeats Thanks man, I enjoyed your video by the way! Still new to this stuff. These things can be complicated when your a beginner. Thanks for your help!
Wow I had no idea how much punchier the 202 could be vs the 404. Shoot, I've still got an old SP-202 sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I should bust that old rascal out for a little jam.
you should LOL
I've been using the SP + DR setup for a bit and yes it's a great combo!
yessir
@somethingthatsveryneutral no but it has a midi in so you can sequence it from other gear
Thank you, J. You are the best, brother!
my pleasure
Messed around with it back in 96 when it came out great sound especially the filters, Nice beat 👍
Thanks for listening
This was used on Clouddead
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I had that one, brand-new. 😁👍
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@@Verysickbeats Wish I still had it. 🥴 I have a ZOIA tho. 😁
Yeah fam that pitch shift is on point!
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Yo shoutout to u lol I jus got hip to da DR-202 and copped it today. Found one in mint condition on eBay. Was lookin to get a mpc2000xl but it’s too expensive at the moment. Anyone looking for an affordable sequencer or whatever, tap in wit da 202.
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Awesome video! Thanks for sharing this.
My pleasure!
Great video man! That pitch comparison was amazing!
Appreciate it!
Needed this video. I've had my 202 for months now and haven't properlyfucked with it. Time to get to work! Thanks for the vid and positive energy!!
You got this!
let me know if don't want it!!
So much of the 90's gear is jumping in price it's wild
yessir
Man I know where one had been sitting for months in atlanta but imma keep that on the hush until I'm ready to get it hehehe 😂
LOL
Thankfully they brought back the pitch on the Mk2, that thing is ridiculous!
yessir
Naples FL !!! Wassup peace and love
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Been following j filt for a minute now
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