How to Tie a Pompano Rig for Surf Fishing

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  • Опубликовано: 30 мар 2018
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    Here is a full tutorial on how I tie my pompano rigs! This will save you a lot of money in the long run opposed to purchasing pre made rigs. Stay Bummy!
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  • @michaelatwood6659
    @michaelatwood6659 2 года назад +3

    I've learned a ton watching you, and I'm probably old enough to be you're dad. Lol Keep up the great work.

  • @steveschwier4782
    @steveschwier4782 6 лет назад +31

    I caught my first two bull red fish today on pompanos rigs I tied, using fish bites. I doubled up with one on one rig and one on the other at the same time. One red was 40" the other was 37" . A fellow fisherman came along and helped me out. These were the largest fish I had ever caught
    After watching you I decided to vacation in Pensacola. I also have caught my first two Pompano again on fish bites. one 16" and one 18".
    Your enthusiasm has been catching..
    I have tried natural bait, sand fleas and shrimp, but I have one caught fish on the hook with fish bites.
    If there was a way to post a picture of the bull reds, I would.
    Thanks for your videos, keep it up.

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад +5

      This is so awesome to hear! I’m glad some of the tips are paying off! If you check me out on Facebook (Bama Beach Bum) you can send me the pictures via message, or you can email them to me: matthewisbell6@gmail.com. I’d love to see them!

  • @yiannis4rush
    @yiannis4rush 5 лет назад +2

    Best tutorial on making rigs I have ever seen. Well presented and easy to learn from. Thank you for your patient explanations and for taking the time to teach us beginners how to succeed in fishing.

  • @peterbernier9624
    @peterbernier9624 4 года назад +3

    As a newbie , i find you are a wealth of information, probably for anyone who follows you. Coming down from the Canadian Atlantic shores and spending the winter months along your shores and in Texas. Thanks a million.

  • @davidrhode3595
    @davidrhode3595 2 года назад +1

    I caught more fish this year than I ever have in the surf before. Thanks for helping me get away from store bought rigs, it paid off.

  • @jamesandsarapayne563
    @jamesandsarapayne563 5 лет назад +1

    Love your videos! I'm a senior citizen living in florida and kayak fish alot but going to Atlantic Beach, NC this summer and plan on doing some surf fishing. Find your videos fun to watch and full of knowledge. Love your attitude and personality. I know it would be a blast to fish with you! Thanks for all the information! God bless ya!

  • @ianlaccohee7180
    @ianlaccohee7180 5 лет назад

    Great video, thank you. I'm used to beach fishing in England, so I have been over thinking my rigs. I clearly need to go back to basics.

  • @Peregrine151
    @Peregrine151 3 года назад

    THANK YOU! I just got back from OBX and made my own pompano rigs instead of using those wire ones you get at the tackle shops. It was easy following your video...and they worked great! And I made my own 'flip flop floats' I saw on Salt Strong's channel. And this was the first time I used 1/0 in-line circle hooks. They worked flawlessly. Thanks again...love your enthusiasm - keep up the great work!
    By the way, I didn't buy any shrimp or squid this year, just Fishbites and caught red and black drum, whiting and lots of pompano!
    Hope you and your friends survived the hurricanes these past few weeks...

  • @briandemo7186
    @briandemo7186 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video! I know its a couple years old but I tied my first rig today watching this and landed my first bull red! Much appreciated

  • @technical19d34
    @technical19d34 3 года назад

    Tied my 1st pomp rigs today, thanks Matthew. Using a ring LED light that you can clamp to a table that also has the magnifying glass in the center is a big help if you have bad eyes.

  • @U812GREEN
    @U812GREEN 5 лет назад +30

    Beads are cheaper at hobby or craft store, any color you want. I bought chartreuse 500 for $3 and some change

    • @ralph7077
      @ralph7077 4 года назад +1

      Like what store for example? New here in America.

    • @U812GREEN
      @U812GREEN 4 года назад +1

      @@ralph7077 Hobby Lobby or Michael's or many other craft stores

    • @ralph7077
      @ralph7077 4 года назад

      U812GREEN thank you!!

    • @MatthewinGooseneck
      @MatthewinGooseneck 3 года назад

      Dude that is a good hot tip!

    • @willharvey3605
      @willharvey3605 2 года назад

      Does the color of the beads scare the fish, should I be worried about that?

  • @KyleForAwhile
    @KyleForAwhile 6 лет назад +2

    Watching this makes me so ready to get back after them, nice video as always man! 🙌🏽

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks dude, I’m glad yesterday didn’t discourage you too much! Lol

  • @willvos107
    @willvos107 6 лет назад +4

    Caught 2 keeper pompano from shore in orange beach today... your videos really help with tips

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад

      That’s so great! Thank you for sharing! Stay Bummy!

  • @quintonhainline7355
    @quintonhainline7355 6 лет назад +2

    Very informative! Just learning and this helped tremendously. Thanks

  • @WhaleWalls
    @WhaleWalls 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this video!!! I’ve been trying to learn how to do this myself for a while and you’ve made it so clear and easy. Just subscribed and I will continue to watch your videos.

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад

      Awesome! Glad it helped! And I’m glad to have you on board!

  • @bradinnh
    @bradinnh 5 лет назад +8

    Dude, I can't get enough of your videos, I love them! Keep em' coming! I'm planning a trip to Cape Outlook in the outer Banks early summer and that is prime time for sea mullet (whiting) and I think pomps will be active too. I just made my first attempt at tying your pompano rig and it's not pretty. My starting measurements that I based on your specs didn't turn out to be the target length, I couldn't find the floats at Bass Pro, I got the 30 lb fluoro (I might use the 20 lb mono on the next one), but I think it might still work. I'm sure I'll get better the more I do. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

    • @skydiverbob1
      @skydiverbob1 4 года назад

      rockislandsportsgov.com - less than $15 for 100 pieces of 3/4 " floats, including shipping!

  • @jerryhartlein
    @jerryhartlein 4 года назад

    very clear straight forward video. Well done BBB !!

  • @davidmullins6490
    @davidmullins6490 4 года назад

    Great easy video for my simple mind. I do like the first way to attact the hook so I can change hook size/style easy if needed. Thanks

  • @jimmyjaimes5268
    @jimmyjaimes5268 3 года назад

    Thanks for the help . Your way of doing it is so much easier.

  • @ericolsen9799
    @ericolsen9799 Год назад

    You should do more of these tutorials. It wold be great content. Knots, leaders, leader to braid, Kayak tips etc. Great stuff.

  • @juliocordero1220
    @juliocordero1220 5 лет назад

    I enjoy your videos my friend! Keep’m coming!

  • @halifax_googan2227
    @halifax_googan2227 5 лет назад

    Very informative yet so simple, thanks man!!!

  • @brendawalker4756
    @brendawalker4756 4 года назад

    Were going soon and this will be so helpful. Thank you!

  • @Brandon-jw5cv
    @Brandon-jw5cv 3 года назад +1

    I would like this a thousand times if I could. Thank you so much for this tutorial!

  • @SteveStuff
    @SteveStuff 4 года назад

    Thank you for this, I'll be trying this out for sure.

  • @fishingthe910
    @fishingthe910 5 лет назад +2

    With a wife & 3 kids who love to dock fish for pinfish, I had to learn to tie my own rigs too. I've learned with them that the simpler and less parts involved, the easier it is on my wallet haha

  • @saltwaterron1984
    @saltwaterron1984 Год назад

    i know your video was not about how to tie dropper loops specifically.. I have watched several videos on how to make dropper loops..the way you tied them is so much easier for me to follow

  • @bi0lizard1
    @bi0lizard1 2 года назад

    This was INCREDIBLY helpful! Ty Ty!

  • @dalemsalem7457
    @dalemsalem7457 5 лет назад

    Thank you brother , this helped me alot today .

  • @barrywinfree6845
    @barrywinfree6845 2 года назад

    Love that I’m just getting started at this great video thanks

  • @stevehogan8829
    @stevehogan8829 4 года назад

    Thanks, watched when I first started and just checking back.

  • @monkeyman4131
    @monkeyman4131 5 лет назад

    Thanks, that was easy-er than I thought.Will now tie my own.

  • @prynceal6762
    @prynceal6762 5 лет назад +8

    I like the fact that u dont withhold info like alot of other sel"fish" ppl out there! Thx man!

    • @antonchik2371
      @antonchik2371 4 года назад +3

      U and senko skipper are the helpful ones

  • @anthonylindsey3125
    @anthonylindsey3125 4 года назад

    Thanks brother, very informative, and helpful

  • @boogieman1414
    @boogieman1414 4 года назад

    Good stuff man! Thanx for the ideas.

  • @DavnerMelodian
    @DavnerMelodian 4 года назад

    The way you explained the dropper loop was way easier than the other video I watched. There’s a different way to explain everything pretty much.

  • @jelly_fishing
    @jelly_fishing 4 года назад

    Nice video great breakdown of the rig

  • @MrBoomer-jl2gw
    @MrBoomer-jl2gw 9 месяцев назад

    Im a beach bum. It comes with living in florida. I love it.🤪 From one beach bum to another, i subbed 🤙

  • @surenbhola107
    @surenbhola107 4 месяца назад

    AWESOME rig presentation thanks a million buddy 💪👌👍

  • @reginagarvey7994
    @reginagarvey7994 Год назад

    Thank you
    You made it look easy!

  • @aaronwagner8904
    @aaronwagner8904 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video! Well done.

  • @izzy8609
    @izzy8609 Год назад

    Caught my first pompano on this rig and loads of other fish as well. Thanks 🤙

  • @elijahclaxton7676
    @elijahclaxton7676 4 года назад

    thank you so much! so easy to understand. helped alot!

  • @thenewgandhi2765
    @thenewgandhi2765 3 года назад

    You are my hero, dude. Seriously

  • @kateskrmetta2022
    @kateskrmetta2022 3 года назад

    I’ve watched plenty of these pompano vids and yours is the only one that made sense

  • @BarryAdams777
    @BarryAdams777 5 лет назад

    Great video! Thank you!!!

  • @markc4921
    @markc4921 5 лет назад

    Found it! Enjoyed the video!! Thanks!!

  • @BigTWM1
    @BigTWM1 5 лет назад

    Super easy. Thanks

  • @bobpiff5161
    @bobpiff5161 3 года назад

    Fantastic! Thanks so much....! From a Northerner.

  • @christopherroyer7635
    @christopherroyer7635 Год назад

    Thank you so much that was perfect!!!!!

  • @tommyevans-xf9xl
    @tommyevans-xf9xl 5 лет назад

    Great tip thanks

  • @steveleonard1662
    @steveleonard1662 3 года назад

    Great tutorial, I can tie my own rigs now and don't have to waste my money buying rigs now. I bet this would work as a catfish rig with the float to keep it off the bottom where you get snagged a lot.

  • @rdr2panther154
    @rdr2panther154 5 лет назад

    Thanks dude I’m 12 and going to gulf shores this summer and I’m going to go fishing

  • @saltwaterrook4638
    @saltwaterrook4638 6 лет назад

    I've bought one premade rig from the store (Walmart) and that was my Pompano rig. It's lasted me since November and it's still going strong lol. It's got the croaker (Kahle) hooks on it. I can't count the Pompano and whiting I've hooked on that rig. I'll use it till it breaks then tie my own.

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад +1

      Very nice! It’s cool it has lasted you this long!

  • @DETmichigan-yy6lf
    @DETmichigan-yy6lf 2 года назад

    Thanks man...
    Took a minute but I got it..
    Great vid

  • @BasicFishingNZ
    @BasicFishingNZ 6 лет назад

    nice video man. really like to use those dropper rigs on surfcasting: always catches so many species of fish on a great day haha

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад

      Yes I’ve caught countless species on this rig

  • @moc1969
    @moc1969 5 лет назад

    great video thanks!!!!!

  • @frutiferaemvasodovovojoao
    @frutiferaemvasodovovojoao 4 года назад

    Congratulations good program.

  • @KyleForAwhile
    @KyleForAwhile 5 лет назад +1

    Me ans Scott are going out in the morning so i'm watching this right now! 😂

  • @BrokeboyOutside
    @BrokeboyOutside 6 лет назад

    Good stuff very nice

  • @timeforchili
    @timeforchili 3 года назад

    Well done!!

  • @hmanone1063
    @hmanone1063 5 лет назад

    Brother, thanks for another great video. How do you jig that setup?

  • @iliketacos2763
    @iliketacos2763 5 лет назад

    Awesome Video

  • @BFFG-bigfoot-research
    @BFFG-bigfoot-research 5 лет назад +2

    I sir have been educated again. Great video.

  • @williamwelsh5451
    @williamwelsh5451 6 лет назад

    Very informative. Looking good. Need to see the water and the beach missing home bad!!! Roll Tide!!!

  • @arroyoriverrat
    @arroyoriverrat 5 лет назад

    you should get together woth Joe and Luke with the salt strong. They put together a beach fishing eductional video but the guy doing it was to area specific and alot of people did not get alot out of it. I like your videos. The casting out at different distances, looking for different structure, tackle tips, bait tips ... learned alot thanks.

  • @lilahnewton7940
    @lilahnewton7940 4 года назад

    Thanks man🇺🇸

  • @mossyoakshomestead8885
    @mossyoakshomestead8885 4 года назад

    @
    Bama Beach Bum very nice video I read through the comments and I haven't noticed any mention of the size and type of hook you are putting on this drop ring? I was going to tie a few but didn't want to tie with the wrong size hook, lol, again thanks a lot for the excellent video and Merry Christmas from Cape Canaveral Florida......cheers

  • @talanarthur1974
    @talanarthur1974 5 лет назад

    Used them this past week in Santa Rosa beach and caught a ton of pompano

  • @gregwikle1415
    @gregwikle1415 5 лет назад +2

    Nice video. One question. What type of weight do you use (e.g. egg sinker, bank sinker, pyramid sinker, etc.) and what weight and where do you tie weight? I assume, I assume at the bottom below the hooks.

  • @patrickkirkland6307
    @patrickkirkland6307 6 лет назад

    Love it!!!

  • @jakru9909
    @jakru9909 6 лет назад

    Great video

  • @skydiverbob1
    @skydiverbob1 4 года назад

    Excellent over the shoulder video so one can follow along easily. Thank you very much for explaining the line weight, hook sizes. All of it. Awesome!!!

  • @046mriggs
    @046mriggs Год назад

    Great information Thank you…did you make your own floats?

  • @ObiWanShinobi1
    @ObiWanShinobi1 6 лет назад +1

    I could only find orange floats locally, so I "cored" some foam (the rubbery stuff, not the poly) with a 3/8" pipe, sharpened around the edges. - clipped the pieces so they were about the size of a mini marshmallow, strung them up on a long piece of #12 wire, sprayed them neon, and had more floats than I will need for 5 seasons. Haven't been often enough to seriously stress test the hand-tied rigs, but I'll keep throwing them.

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад

      Sounds like a good plan to me!

    • @skydiverbob1
      @skydiverbob1 4 года назад

      rockislandsportsgov.com - 100 pieces of 3/4" floats for less than $15, including shipping.

  • @frutiferaemvasodovovojoao
    @frutiferaemvasodovovojoao 4 года назад

    of Brazil

  • @ronhmason
    @ronhmason 3 года назад

    Love this video. Where to get the small floats?

  • @FSR182
    @FSR182 5 лет назад +1

    Have you tried cutting part of the dropper loop near the knot to produce a single drop line? It seems the single line would be less visible to fish that might be leader shy. Thanks for your videos; I've learned a lot from you!

    • @capeheartriz
      @capeheartriz 4 года назад

      done it both ways....my opinion, makes no difference....other then you have to be careful the single line isn't to long or it will wrap around the main leader line....if your using 20# test.....He catches lots of fish so I guess we can say that speaks for itself....If your down in the Florida keys on a dead calm, gin clean water day..then I think tackle could be an issue....

  • @TheNiuhuskies09
    @TheNiuhuskies09 3 года назад

    Great video. Ive seen some where people doing it so fast you cant tell what they're doing or have i white backround so definately cant tell

  • @atc06jh
    @atc06jh 5 лет назад +1

    Just rewatched this and now tying my own rigs. All I have is 30lb mono right now and beads with a 1 or 2 circle hook. Can’t find floats in middle GA. But hoping these work!

    • @TacoMyrick
      @TacoMyrick 5 лет назад

      I've used orange ear plugs...the squishy type. Just cut'em in half and they work great! 👍 🐟 👍

    • @atc06jh
      @atc06jh 5 лет назад +1

      I got a few of those laying around. If I can't find any at BlueWater Outriggers then I'll try that one. I appreciate it!

  • @grigaale
    @grigaale 5 лет назад

    GOOD VIDEO

  • @nealroberson6114
    @nealroberson6114 4 года назад

    How do you get the line into the smaller #2 hooks? I use 20# and can not for the life of me get them to go into the eye sometimes. Drives me insane fighting that loop haha. I tie all my rigs but I'm baffled how they get those tiny hooks on 20# line. Love the videos btw keep em rolling !

  • @JDVaron
    @JDVaron 4 года назад

    Well a pyramid sinker do as well? Thanks for the vid!

  • @jasonbolin151
    @jasonbolin151 5 лет назад

    Super helpful ,thoroughly enjoy your channel.

  • @andywilliamsflorida
    @andywilliamsflorida 4 года назад

    Not trying to be a know-it-all, because I didn't know how to tie it. But I went looking for a polymer knot. It's a Palomar knot. Thanks for teaching me how to tie this.

  • @davidbrown5613
    @davidbrown5613 5 лет назад +1

    Hi beach bum my name is David Brown I go down to Florida for 2 to 3 weeks every Christmas looking to get into Surf fishing for the first time what would you recommend for gear pole and real been watching a lot of your videos and obviously you’ve been doing this for a long time I’m just starting out

  • @domana100
    @domana100 3 месяца назад

    I love your videos and have been a sub for many years. I finally decided to make my own rig however I could not get 20lbs fluoro line to go thru the 1/0 hook eye 😅. Went with 2/0 and we’ll see how it goes

    • @philippians4410
      @philippians4410 Месяц назад +1

      Take a random lil piece of light fishing line, run it through the end of your dropper loop and bend it, then run the ends of that random piece of line through your hook eye and use it as a sort of needle to thread your hook onto the dropper loop.

    • @domana100
      @domana100 Месяц назад

      @@philippians4410Thanks!

    • @philippians4410
      @philippians4410 Месяц назад +1

      @@domana100 YVW, I use 20 lb and 1/0 for pompano as well. another thing you could do is tie a T-knot for your loops. Which is pretty much just a surgeon’s loop with extra twists followed by a dropper loop over it. Then cut one end of the loops close to your standing line, and tie your hook on with a uni knot, or whatever knot you prefer. A ‘high low rig’. I use that rig when fishing a heavier 30-50 lb leader not intended for pompano. There’s likely a lot of videos on here to show you how to tie that rig.

  • @Floridamarty
    @Floridamarty 8 месяцев назад

    I appreciate the video. I mainly surf fish NE Florida. I have been tying my own rigs for a few years now and have experimented plenty. I have mixed feelings about beads and floats. I seem to have a better bite ratio when I fish just the baited hook. I typically use sand fleas, sometimes blanched sand fleas, and seldom fish bites. The blanched fleas are an attractant themselves, or so it seems. I also stopped using kahle or circle hooks, again, a get a higher percentage of hookups when fishing a J hook. Just my 2 cents. My last Pompano outing, 10 bites, landed 9, kept 6. Also, fishing sand fleas I seem to hook many bonnet head and lemon sharks, the circle and kahle hooks often fail to hold onto the sharks, where the J hooks hold.

    • @philippians4410
      @philippians4410 Месяц назад

      Those are likely blacknose sharks not lemons..next time you get one look at the snout and you will see a black marking on the tip. Lemon sharks also typically have a more rounded snout like a bull shark. Just my guess it is blacknose what you’re getting because I get quite a few of them on the pompano rig as well.

  • @MrRoyHutchins
    @MrRoyHutchins 3 года назад

    Hey Bum,recommend a good surf rod and reel set up that won't break the bank. For a beginner.

  • @Motown919
    @Motown919 3 года назад

    Great and very informative video! I'm tieing all my rigs for a trip coming up and I was curious if you found that the floats help on both dropper loops or more so on the bottom dropper loop to keep the crabs from having an all you can eat buffet! I have also been in between 20lb & 30lb test as far as presenting bait goes or do you think that would be more due to strength of the current? Thanks for all the awesome videos!

    • @josh_fisher
      @josh_fisher Год назад +1

      20lb mono or 30lb fluorocarbon. Floats do help keep the bottom hook off the sea floor, so that's not a bad idea at all.

  • @charlesmoore9118
    @charlesmoore9118 5 лет назад

    I use a different rig due to the fact that I want to remove/replace hooks. It's called a "Mortician Rig". The knots I use are Figure eight knots (loop on end and standard in middle) and noknot knot for snelling the hooks (snell is recommended for circle hooks).
    It works great when the blue fish bite off the hook, just replace the missing hook in seconds. I have used them with three hooks. That's when replacing a hook in seconds pays off. blue fish can be annoying sometimes.
    Give it a try - it cast great and helps remove twist due to way the hooks are attached.

    • @capeheartriz
      @capeheartriz 5 лет назад

      yeah...nice rig but a bit of work to make I think...I use the board method...is one better then the other..I don't know

  • @TheDrogoBoffin
    @TheDrogoBoffin 5 лет назад

    I never used the floats. Does having them do anything other than keep your bait in a separate water column?

  • @pmojodomino
    @pmojodomino 4 года назад

    What size and brand circle hook do you recommend? Thank you.

  • @CatfishDunbarTV1
    @CatfishDunbarTV1 5 лет назад

    Do you commonly have problems with your drops get tangled on leader? I know some guys use T knots to avoid this but I like your way of doing it more.. just curious.

  • @j33wolf
    @j33wolf 5 лет назад

    What knot do you prefer to use when tying your mono to your braid?

  • @robgarner6244
    @robgarner6244 5 лет назад

    Great video. I'm new to pompano rigs and was just wondering why you would select a colour bead?

    • @boyoudedy8442
      @boyoudedy8442 5 лет назад

      The pompano will have a better chance of seeing your bait.

  • @fishing4542
    @fishing4542 5 лет назад

    Thank thanks thanks

  • @buckshot21000
    @buckshot21000 4 года назад

    If you had to choose just 2 colors of beads to have to tie rigs what would they be? Also how often do you use a float?

  • @kingboogie7800
    @kingboogie7800 6 лет назад

    I am totally new to Pompano fishing, but am going to Navarre beach FL. next week (July 17-23). Could you tell me what bait works on this rig? And can it be worked off the Navarre Beach fishing pier? Love the videos!

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад

      Shrimp, Fishbites, sandfleas. Yes you can use it off a pier!

  • @juvinious
    @juvinious 6 лет назад

    I just put a double overhand loop knot in on the bottom and feed it through the pyramids for easy change out instead of using a snap-on swivel.
    I have lots of structure in one of the park beaches that I frequent near me so it sometimes help when I have to yank the rig out so I at least get some of my tackle back. I also use double overhand knots on the two hook rigs but I like that knot you showed which seems more reliable as sometimes they tend to slip so the float, bead and hook all end up at the line.
    I'm going to give that one a try. Great video, thanks!

    • @BamaBeachBum
      @BamaBeachBum  6 лет назад +1

      Yes I see a lot of guys just using the loop knot on bottom for the pyramid, I just feel better about having the swivel for some reason.