We Need to Talk About the Ultra Rich Paying for Extreme Travel
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Why would someone ever pay $250,000+ for an experience of a lifetime? Is it for social currency?; Fame?; The feeling of being the first ever to do something? Join me as we discover precisely how and why the ultra-rich travel the world.
Key Resources used in this video:
- Forbes’ 37th Annual World’s Billionaires List: Facts And Figures, 2023
- Fast Company, The Man Who Wants to Send Us To the Bottom of the Ocean, 2017
- Barack Obama, Stavros Niarchos Foundation (SNF) Speech, 2023
- New York Post, Super-rich demand for risky excursions shockingly surges despite Titan sub disaster, 2023
- The Washington Post, What is submersible tourism? The Titanic expedition, explained, 2023
- Forbes, X-treme Luxury Travel for Billionaires: The Rise of Luxpeditions, 2018
- Wendover Productions, How the World’s Wealthiest People Travel, 2022
- Vox, Billionaires: Explained, 2019
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I think the real issue isn’t the cost or the risk to human life, but the resources expended and impact on these remote locations. Everest is turning into a trash dump despite efforts to keep it clean. Let’s face it, if humans go there environmental impacts will follow. What really bugs me are the environmental types that preach saving the earth, while simultaneously creating a carbon footprint equal to a small city in accomplishing their bucket list adventure.
I agree with the environmental issue as the most important one. These wealthy tourists don't see that they don't own nature, and certainly not this mountain. A lot of them also just "buy" this experience instead of really preparing and training for the climb. To get up there with the exclusive the help of three sherpas who carry all your equipment, who fix your ropes, who cook for you and who drag you up this mountain is NOT a real achievement. Sadly, for many it's just an unnecessary way to boost their ego. Everything else comes second.
The "climb a virgin peak" just made me sick.
BS
Eva's call for empathy with the filthy rich tourism made me sick in my mouth. They have all the means to do something extraordinary for this planet and all of its inhabitants, but they choose to do something extraordinary for themselves instead. There is no way I could sympathise with that kind of decision-making.
If they are doing that they probably aren't an 'environmental type' but someone using that mask for their real identity, which is of not giving a crap. All the environmentalists I know are very specific about their travel, carbon offsets, and ensuring their travel is a net positive.
I did my PhD on the emergence of social media, digital photography and the social capital of travel experiences. As an independent female traveller who loves outdoor epic experiences, I found the topic equally fascinating as it was disheartening. When I was in my early 20’s backpacking around the world in 1999, it was my experience that some bravery, planning and self responsibility was needed to make epic experiences in remote parts of the world happen. With the advent of the internet and mass tourism, almost any ‘experience’ is for sale and is accessible to anyone who can pay for it. The photo of the destination ( and the social capital it garners) is often the goal of this kind of ‘consumer tourism’. For me, the effort it took, the challenges I moved through and the personal growth I experienced were the rewards of going it alone and on a shoe string budget. I’m not here to judge, just observe and point to the truth of it all….which your video does a great job of doing as well.
I agree! I always thought it was age but now I’m much more content to explore the mountains by our house. It’s quiet and so peaceful- much more enjoyable then traveling for me at this time in my life. It sure was fun traveling for me when I was younger though! Pre social media.
Sounds super interesting!! Can I please read your thesis?
I think most if these “adventure travelers” are greedy people who feel they have to have it all and do it all. It’s not sensible or environmentally responsible!
So basically you just here to pat yourself on the back.
You got a phd in literally how to be a travel agent. 😂
Good job.
@@Donneczka1
Who says it isn't environmentally responsible? What is environmentally responsible are the PEOPLE not the experiences.
I have had some absolutely amazing experiences that I went across the world so I can experience.
Saying that having to do it all is greedy is just a stupid statement. I LOVE the world, the landscapes, the people, the culture and everything it offers. My main goal in life has ALWAYS been to do and see everything possible. I've already spent near a million dollars traveling the world the past 10 years non-stop. Would I ever change that? NEVER. I don't care what you environmental hippies say, you don't know the truth.
Leave no trace. Don't care what people do with their money but for the love of all that is holy CLEAN UP
I have no problems with people doing exactly what they want, but I do have an issue when they cut corners with training , equipment & knowledge & then expecting others to put their lives at risk to rescue them , I also have an issue with the cost of the rescue, unless they are billed for it
The instance of the submersible becoming lost to the pressures of the depth viewing the Titanic was completely avoidable. There will be lawsuits and many millions being paid out to the survivor families. There is no massive danger neccessarily as there are in submersibles going down 12,500 feet. When you take numerous teams of people to a location where they walk to the destination laws and the abilities of people play a far bigger roll in things than being solely reliant on a vehicle transporting people about.
dependant. if can change the oil of my car i'd be shocked.
To go into outer space, to the bottom of the ocean or to climb Everest should only be for professional explorers or astronauts who spend years training to do so while paid for by the state or sponsors.
@lemsip207 what if a wealthy person decides to climb everest? Regardless of your education, you can be told what to do and you can have as much a chance of survival as a sherpa (from a knowledge based perspective, not from a physical standpoint)
A person regardless of how much experience or education they have still has 100% likelihood of dying if the submersible develops a leak. You're education level does ZERO for your longevity in either of these two situations I describe.
@lemsip207 - If those who know all the risks and sign legal waivers, they should be able to go if they so choose. It doesn't take brain power to climb a mountain. It takes strength, coordination, drive, and determination.
If you want to climb onboard a submersible. You don't need brains necessarily or muscle to survive that trip. Legal waivers are required as what we will see in the following months.
Well, depends very much on where you draw the line. The way Eva travels is luxury and inaccessible for most people on this planet. And having this released a few days after she drove a huge american RV (even though rented, but still mentioned some ridiculous amounts paid for insurance or something)... I don't know, it just doesn't fly for me!
these travel vloggers who are so pro environment are really condescending, they all play this game. They do activities that leave mega carbon footprints and then release a video like this judging others for what they've essentially done themselves and made TONS of money from.... I agree it sits weird for me too. You can't climb Everest, go to Antarctica and drive a big car around multiple countries and then say you're pro earth. I love Eva and her videos but this ain't it.
@@yourbeautybabyplease shutup about carbon footprints. This phuckery is ruining life, for the rest of us. Thank you, very much😊
The RV she drove sells for as high as a million dollars. A little hypocritical to bring this topic up know. Even some people would consider her Land Rover a luxury.
@@FelixCervantes she is generating a huge carbon print and for what some cents from YT its a crap shi... when you think deeper.
Totally agree this video is hypocritical on a very high and offensive level coming from a person that's been gas guzzling for 9 months now and has videos that are total click bait "i cross the desert alone with my dog!" etc with dramatic photo on video cover of her shocked face and then posts to insta photos of her ass to drum up clicks. It's so painful I come here just to point it out because I believed this channel was about more than that before Eva came to the US. Now it's clearly just a get rich get fame money grab.
From 2018 until 2022, despite the Covid insanity, I sailed my 1972 Islander 36 (yes a 50 year old sailboat) around the world (34,000 miles, crossed 3 Oceans and crossed the Equator 4 times). I departed the USA with $ 500. I returned with just about $ 500. Money would have made things easier, but did not replace skill and tenacity. (ok, stupidity as well) Tim on sv Intrepid !
fish for breakfast, lunch, dinner and midnight snacks.
@@eltorocal I did eat a lot of fish :)
@@AerobaticCompany I was gonna' say...
And you had to make your own catch-basins using tarps and stuff for drinking water when it rained... and you probably traded with folks for... sundries?
Man, you must have had quite an experience out there. Very cool.
@AerobaticCompany, I would love to hear more. Do you have a channel, blog, podcast?
Your adventures sound amazing
The wealthy individuals who took a ride on the Titan submersible paid approximately $250,000. for the ride. It will most likely be taxpayers who will pay the estimated $1.2 million spent on the cost of rescue and recovery. Frequently it's the taxpayers who get charged when poorly regulated high cost adventures go wrong.
I personally have no problem with people spending THEIR money legally the way they wish. Gratefulot brings up a valid point - who picks up the bill when things 'go south' as they say? People who drive cars have insurance (or should) for those bad moments. Many ski resorts require people to sign agreements to pay for ambulatory extraction if required. I can imagine and expect the various agencies involved in the Titan incident to send the company bills - and take them to court, if necessary, to pay. We - I don't know what insurance or waivers were signed by the victims and what recourse the families will have. Let's see how muddy the insurance circus gets with this.
Not sure who pays to get the sub off the ocean floor as it was in International Waters. That sub was doomed from the start due to Pride with the owner and Bad Engineering. I spent $20K 6 years ago and went on a "Normal" vacation, for a month. So am I bad for spending that?? Everyone is different and I do not compare myself with others about money. It is what it is..Be happy with what you have and If not happy, do something about it.
Agreed!
Yes. In my country they regularly use tax payers money (from the small local budget) to get helecopters with first responders to rescue ill prepared, non local city people off the mountain. They constantly tell city people to not come there if they don't know what they're doing and know the place. I've seen people come in flip flops, sweat pants and a bag of potato chips thinking a mountain climb is just a walk in the park. When the unpredictable weather hits they're doomed and need saving. So ignorant and arrogant - and very expensive for the locals.
the USCG saves about 5000 people annually, and tragically, about 600 aren't saved. there's roughly 3 vehicles used for each life saved/lost. should the tax returns of anyone the USCG goes after first be reviewed before they set off on a mission?
Hmm... that was confusing...
If the conclusion is "we shouldn't concern ourselves with the subject - it is not enough of a big deal" then why make an entire video on it?
You left me with an impression I wasted my time watching it... 😢
What about environmental impact of all that luxury. Everest's surroundings have been trashed. Cruise ship dump raw sewage into the oceans. Personally, I don't want a so-called "adventure" that's prepackaged, supervised and regimented.
Fish and whales dump raw sewage into the oceans as well.
@@stevecooper2873 True. The equivalent would be a blimp of say, 2000 dolphin tourists dumping a week's worth of sewage on Manhattan, NY. We would be no more prepared for it than a coral reef would be for our waste.
There is a base jumping school in Twin Falls Idaho. The first thing they have you do is write a letter to your family telling them you died in a base jumping accident. They put it in an envelope and save it till the end of the class in case they need to send it. They do it so the students take it seriously. Many people don't take the risk of death seriously.
Your absolutely correct about the death gamble…as a retired nyc detective,I’ve seen the results of the crime wave of the 80s in the front row, death is no joke, and how easy it is to get killed is never a fore-sight, when you put yourself in the wrong spot at the wrong time, your ticket can get punched …
What about the impact on nature, and the climate with all the people travelling to these kind of places?! Adventure can also be find close to where you live... Be creative. Lower the impact on nature.
Thank you!
What i have a huge problem with, are people trashing the places they take these extreme trips to. Everest is a dump, ive seen other places that are damaged by people who seem to careless, its just about the experience for them. I also think people should have to have some kind of experience before doing extremely dangerous things and risking others lives just because they have the money to do it.
I am divided on this one. I see your point and agree with most of them, but I also see the environmental cost of the hype around certain places (like Everst) or the private jets or flying into space. There is an invisible price tag that is not being paid with money, but with our environment.
Also: Yes, it might be someones dream. But WHY is it someones dream? Some might truly just want to explore and share the beauty of the world, but many just want to be able to brag. Influenced by social media and the need to always be MORE and go FURTHER and be MORE SPECIAL. Be able to tell more extreme stories - because we live in a world were stories are a bigger currency than ever before (both in capitalism as well as in social life). With the virtual world at our fingertips, we have seen it all. In order to stand out (and to be seen and heard) you need to go even further, make things even more extreme. Of course for the person it feels like their dream to do XYZ. But I think the true dream (in many cases) is to be looked up to, to be heard and seen and admired. In social media and in real life.
I worked as a tour guide for a while and a lot of the tourists were more interested in taking photos than actually enjoying the view. When one of the main attractions (a volcanic crater) was covered in fog, some just shrugged and said "Ah, no problem, we just photograph a postcard and tell people that is what we saw." And one elderly gentlemen, who was not super rich but quite wealthy was SO BORED of the Azores. Everything that he saw was less spectacular than something he had seen before. A smoking volcano? Pah, he had seen one errupt once! Beautiful green landscapes? He had been to the rainforest, so this was nothing. Deep blue ocean until the horizon? He had been on ships many times. Etc... he had seen it all. So the only way to get him excited again was by extreme stuff.
So while I do have empathy for exploration und seeking adventure, I think there are limits and consequences to consider and the discussion should be handled with a lot of nuance.
a trip that you book and get what you pay for is not an adventure, by definition. It is simply called tourism.
any trip that includes relative uncertainty in its outcome is an adventure - the whole paying part of it has nothing to do with it
@@JamesJoyce12 just going to the bakery, i have uncertainty of what bread i will get. What a big adventure :D (you g the part that this is simply not a smart answer?)
Enjoyed the episode. Each year I spend a few weeks hiking the alps. I’m self-employed, so between loss of income and trip costs it is a real expense for me. Actually spending it is tough, but never regrettable. Especially once you are on the adventure. I lost a dear friend to cancer not long ago. She had all the money she needed for an extraordinary life. She paced herself like she had 30 years. She ended up with 1 and spent 1/2 of that in hospitals extremely unhealthy. In our last few conversations together she made sure I understood the value of doing today the things you might/could put off until tomorrow. So, these annual trips are my way of not waiting to do them in retirement. It certainly isn’t a black and white topic, but I will not judge those spending what they have to live/experience life and pursue joy. I do desire more restrictions on the volume of participants for certain trips, to reduce the impact they have on the physical locations.
If they have the money and are able bodied, more power to them. I think the key is to enjoy and remember that experience, not just check it off, like been there done that. I’m in awe of the physical abilities. I have a disability and I travel in a van with 2 dogs. Some say, that’s stupid and dangerous. I say, I don’t want to die sitting at home on my couch. Thanks for the inspo and insight, Eva. Keep doing You.
The problem is that when the "adventure" goes wrong, it is the locals that must risk their life to save the ones that can't manage themself.
Just take a look at how much resources that was used in the search for the "Titanic tourists"...
Even if there is an insurance that cover most of it, it takes resources away from something else... and most likely no insurance will cover the actual cost of any rescue operation.
Wise words. I do not want to lie on my deathbed, distraught about the many things that I did not do. Instead, to be grateful for a life of fulfillment through chosen experiences. And I fully agree, it is not about checking things off, but about the appreciation of the total experience.
I have a sensory disability and I do not agree with that comment. You can have adventures however you want it it’s people who lack empathy for us to allow us do things. Even if I had money and able bodied myself I’d say these people are cowboys. I’ve done adventure travel before on jet boats, bungee jumping and paragliding etc. I’d maybe do paragliding again because was my favourite but they’re just show off consumerism tourism
@@siranimcneill7589 , I think that is why we all experience differently. We accept the differences of experience, and move in our own personal direction.
@@StoltHD No such thing as "'locals must risk their lives'", live and let die.
Money buys opportunities. It can be racing cars (the industry I work in), it can be mountain climbing, it can be space travel or underwater exploration. The one key is these folks, who may be risking their lives are by no means explorers, adventurers or the like. They are buying experiences, checking boxes. That’s been my experience working for these clients. It’s great, they trust people like us to help them fulfill their dreams. I always take that very seriously. Great topic Eva!
What a stupid philosophy. All early exploration came with risks. If someone wants to take on a risky adventure and they understand the risks, then so be it.
Stupid comment.
People that pay for these experiences ARE adventurers, explorers, etc. Go research how much money was spent on historical explorations of the past. Without the dumping of money into expeditions, our world wouldn't be the same.
Stop enabling these idiots.
I don't spite RUclipsrs' success. But when they upgrade to rigs fancier than my house, they leave behind the reason I started watching them. I want to see skill development and ingenuity. Not how to waste money on unnecessary property.
I have always believed in not judging how someone spends their own money. Personally, I would get so much more joy in coordinating with children's hospitals or animal rescues and spending my $250,000+ towards making people's lives better.
Finally, a Person who knows The Golden Rule and Lives It👍
You could still use a large portion of your earnings to do that in a poor country money goes a long way!
@@silverlining6259 donations and charity is unsustainable money drain... better invest money into infrastructure so that nations becomes self-sufficient and can take care of themselves.
In other words, I'm not gonna catch fish and give it to you to feed you ('cuz you'll never stop begging for more), instead I'll give you a fishing rod and teach you how to use it (then you take care of yourself). \o/
Spent near a million dollars the past 10 years traveling and experiencing the world, I wouldn't change it for anything.
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned How biblical. Yet, not wrong
I wish the ultra-rich would take on the challenge of making the world liveable for everyone.
Why? Can do what they want with their money. Why don't you go out and earn more money and use it for good instead of expecting others to do it. 😂 crazy socialists
Not MAKING it liveable, but ALLOWING IT TO BE so. As without the politics, policies, and police, it would probably be a lot more liveable, all in the grace of nature, or god if you wish. They actively STEAL birthrights away, or god-given rights, which they have no right to take. They need to live and let live, that's all.
But that shift of perspective aside, I'm quite sure we fully agree on this.
Ditto!
Specify "everyone". Read "Famine, Affluence and Mortality" by Singer.
It's not even a challenge. It's their choice. They are choosing to destroy 🌎 for us without our consent. I suggest you take that fact and respond accordingly. Take small steps towards not participating. It's also "our" choice. Consider making better choices tomorrow.
For once I disagree with you Eva! There is a huge environmental impact to these trips. Everest, for example, is now a garbage dump! Landing huge jests in Antarctica? Sheesh! And there is a huge safety issue to these trips always! Participants die, sherpas die. For what? To facilitate an ego trip? I think that people are going over the top spending their riches. I don’t think they should even have all these these riches, let alone take all these carbon-laden trips! It’s beyond the pale to me!
Ah. You're a Communist. Got it
It should be illegal to climb those mountains
Not only has Everest become a garbage dump. But also a cemetery. Everest is no longer a great conquer. Now it’s just a play ground for the rich to brag.
well said. I wouldn't go quite that far- exploration is fundamental to the human experience, and literally everything has some risk, so where is the line exactly? But I agree it should be super regulated. Like you can only go if you can cover potential SAR costs, if you pay some carbon offsetting or something that benefits the environment you are visiting, if you have certified safety regulations in place, if you are adequately trained to do the thing, etc etc.
This reminds me of the debate in animal conservation on whether to allow tourists to visit, say, gorillas on guided tours, or other rare animals. It seems that letting people visit allows for the environment to be preserved from the profit generated, plus it also makes people, well, care about those areas and animals. But only if it is done right, of course.
I feel like the root problem is people having so much money that hundreds of thousands of dollars is for them the same as if you or I got a fancy starbucks coffee. Nobody should have that much money.
Yep, Comrade, those jests are a huge risk. So is living. I recommend you stay at home, in bed, and wait for the meteor to hit you to be safest.
I wonder, would people still do these things if they absolutely could not tell anyone about it. Bragging rights seem (to me) to be an element of the whole adventure. Who would carry a 4000.00 handbag if it was invisible? To your point, people should always be able to do what they want as long as it does not harm to another.
I think a lot of people would still do it. I travel a lot and do not post my photos anywhere. I also barely show my photos to anyone other than 2 or 3 people.
I've done Antarctica trip to satisfy my own dreams. I don't really brag about it.
We've always been able to tell *someone* about it, though! Whether it's a photo on social media, a newspaper clipping, a book, a map, a presentation to the royal court, the local tribe, even your own diary! Think of how we know about colonisation and those that circumnavigated the globe!
I agree we always have, but never to this great degree of instant gratification and recognition. I feel social media has fueled it as well. I really just wish this new group exploring would pack their trash out. I'm sick of carrying trash from beautiful remote places.
I remember your trip to Antarctica. I had nothing but empathy for you - through my own fears. I, personally, have no desire for these types of extreme adventures. I watch others from the comfort of my home, and think to myself, "Wow, that looks terrifying." That's my issue; all the fear. I would assume the accomplishment is worth it. I'll never know. I appreciate the transparency, regarding what you paid for the trip. Huge chunk of money, yet you have no regrets. I find that inspiring. On this side of the screen, I simply assumed someone paid you to advertise their adventures. I guess it really doesn't matter either way. Thanks for the video and honestly.
The definition of courage is to do things that frighten someone. Fear is something we all experience. You just let yours control you.
I think the issue with the titanic sub is less that they did this wildly adventurous and crazy thing -everyone who follows you would likely jump at the opportunity if given to them to go on an incredible trip like this - and more the response from multiple governments and media. The spending to rescue people they knew were not likely to be saved, rather than focus on people who could be helped in that time and with that money.
If the average person goes missing, especially a person of color, there is usually very minimal attention or resources given to that person. Often, their family are brushed to the side, and ignored. So the response to the titanic sub, where 5 billionaires went missing, where 4 different governments and every media outlet responded, and millions of dollars were spent trying to rescue them, was really frustrating to a lot of people.
One of them didn't want to go except to please his step father.
LoL
The Submersible was called
- Titan - Not Titanic.
You leftists can't get anything right
@@lemsip207The mother disputes that.
Can you mention some instance where Coast Guard paid minimal attention or refused to use resources to rescue a person of color. That's a absolutely atrocious accusation of racism that better be backed up by mountain of evidence.
Not sure how I feel about all of this. I'd rather climb the fourteeners in Colorado or many of the peaks in the Sierras (both of which I have done), no people for the most part, self sufficient, no real cost. The joy of finding some empty spot on the map, & schlepping myself into it, has much more of a pull than doing some glory trip that dozens of other people are drawn to. The damage done to the landscape in many of these glory trip places is significant.
I want to push back a bit. When you said the context of someone's life might influence them and gave the example of the millionaire who can't stop working-- those are the people that can and do take vacations and disconnect. The hourly workers who get written for talking to friends are the ones that never have the opportunity to take 2+ months off (and definitely can't afford 100k trip). Fantastic conversation and thank you for this talk, would love to see you dive into the impact of travel and luxury travel. Example, I see more and more recently about the pollution in Everest, popular cities being overrun with tourists, beaches ruined, etc.
As a alpine climber it's not the amount of money that people have, it's that they are inexperienced and going to places where that inexperience can get you killed. The other issue is that after people pay a crap ton of money to get to mountains, they don't realize that failing to summit is fairly normal. They think their money guarantees an summit/outcome. Usually guides can get you up, but the most dangerous part of the climb is usually descending so.... I've turned around on many climbs where I knew I could get to the top, but I was concerned about what happened after (e.g., potential weather or we were running late and it was getting warm and as temps increase so do avalanche risks so call it and turn around).
Also, on high altitude trips, you need the acclimatization time. There are ways to shorten it a bit (e.g., altitude tents before you leave), but not by much. Above Camp 4 on Everest (Never been, I try to avoid "tourist mountains") you are on O2. If something happens (flow rate too high or low), you want the best chance of surviving which means as much acclimatization as possible. Shortcuts can get you killed.
Nah! If they want to travel and have the money I say go ahead!!! If someone dies because of a adventure we'll that's just life! If it's your time to die it's your time! You can be the safest driver in the world but a careless driver can end your life at any moment.
I don't know applicable this will be. I used to deer hunt on a big ranch in the Nebraska sandhills. I got to know a guy who guided for a local outfitter. Most clients were what we considered wealthy, owned companies ect. He said for most the ideal hunt was to fly in friday afternoon, shoot a deer big enough to brag about back home and be flying back home Saturday. These guys were booked for a weeks hunt and could have hunted sharptail grouse, water fowl or called coyotes but they wanted to get the deer and go home. His impression was that money meant little but time was important.
My opinion,based on no facts or interaction with these adventurers, is that it is basically a feather in their cap they can brag about to peers and also those they trying to show up. You might notice a little rich guy bias in my attitude.
The issue in my mind isn’t that they choose to do it, but that many who do embark on extreme travel are frequently able to do so due to their exploitation of those who often do not have the wealth to survive, much less go on a basic vacation, and definitely not engage in extreme travel.
What also grinds my gears are the YT channels that post videos of these extreme travel experiences and portray them as accessible for the average people who watch. It shows just how badly people are out of touch with reality. We have far more in common with the homeless person we see begging on the sidewalk than we do with the ultra-rich.
I think my biggest gripe with the concept of ultra-expensive adventures and expeditions is that it encourages gating these incredible human experiences to people who are fortunate enough to afford them. these trips with the exorbitant price tags are accessible primarily to people who are wealthy, privileged, and already likely living by means of excess. i understand this is representative of a problem that exists well beyond the realm of travel and adventure. i think it’s a shame that the privilege of going on these grand expositions is awarded to those who can most easily afford them, rather than being preserved for those who are the most physically and mentally prepared, and those who are able/willing to leave as small a footprint as possible in terms of resources and environmental impact. i wish more emphasis was placed on adventuring “correctly” to protect the natural world, rather than doing so “comfortably” simply because someone can afford to pay for such accommodation.
I for one am happy that some rich people spend huge money going on expeditions and such. If someone spends $1M on a super deluxe trip to climb Everest how many Sherpa's families do you think get fed from that? How many pilots, mechanics, crew on boats, etc are making their living from these people? A LOT. The adventure travel companies probably aren't gouging for the services they provide, if they did competition would put them out of business. That means they are spending a big chunk of that money to make these expeditions happen and that is GREAT! What would you rather have: Mr. Billionaire climbing Everest, going into space, diving on Titanic, or whatever else that positively effects the incomes of hundreds of people.... or hoarding all their money so it doesn't help anyone but themselves? The more of their money the ultra rich spend the better off we ALL are. It does not matter what they spend it on, ultimately that money is paying someone's living expenses somewhere. If they spend it on what you consider to be stupid shit, who cares? They paid a whole bunch of people in order to do that stupid shit. At least they are spending money. The worst thing you can do for an economy is NOT spending your money.
I'm not disagreeing with you in this video. I state at the end that it's not really my place to decide how people spend the money that they have. I think it's important to note, however, that exactly where the money goes on some of these luxury experiences (and other forms of industrialised tourism) is very grey and ultimately the main profits go to CEOs and higher ups in the companies that facilitate the experiences, NOT the local people.
Extreme adventures don't need to be that costly. I went deep in the Amazonian jungle to meet the Yanomami tribes when I was living in Venezuela and it did not cost more than a few hundred dollars. I had to organize everything and the pilot was a friend who owned an airplane, it was risky flying over the Orinoco without air traffic control, but the end result was so worthwhile. I am glad you were able to fulfill your Antarctica dream. Memories for the rest of your life.
Would you have been as content had the plane crashed out of contact with ATC, and hoping for a rescue?
@@stevecooper2873 Extreme adventure is dangerous by definition. I knew perfectly that any technical problem on the aircraft would mean death. There was absolutely no opportunity for a rescue in such hostile environment. In the end, it is all about the risk you are ready to take to achieve a specific goal or dream.
How much of what you paid went to the Yanomami?
@@nanshe3x The Yanomami tribes don't know what money is and have no use of it. No banks in their villages.... But they know how to barter. I traded a bow and arrows (hopefully with no curare) against a few tee shirts.
I never understood why you would want to climb a mountain as hiogh as those peaks. Then something happened. I discovered the 100 km walking event of Dodentocht in Belgium. This is by no means a dangerous thing, it is far away from mountain climbing (you are basically walking on flat ground), but for some reason I became OBSESSED. I was out of shape, and suddenly I was training lots of hours in the week. Dodentocht is in another country so I had to plan a trip there, also I had to buy some equipment (Like special shoes) and for me it was absolutely luxury travel in the sense that it meant a lot of money for me.
One thing I realised was that nobody, NOBODY, around me understood why you would want to do such a thing. Why would you walk for 100 km and be uncomfortable, alone (Because nobody I invited wanted to walk with me), and pay a lot of money for it. And I could not really explain it either, it was just the idea of walking, the obsession, and probably a sense of rite of passage. "Who am I now and who will I be in the future, can I be somebody else, somebody who is strong enough to do such a thing?"
I will probably never climb mountains, but I understand now how it feels to prepare for something for a year and suddenly doing everything you can to get to your goal, and the obsession, THE OBSESSION of doing this thing, whatever it is.
It’s their money. It’s their lives. They should do whatever they want to do with it.
If they want to pay a huge amount of money to take an extremely dangerous trip, it’s on them. It’s their money. It’s their lives.
@connyconiglione Of course it is. It is their money they can do whatever they want with it. It’s nobody else’s business how they spend their own money.
When you write "It’s their money. It’s their lives" then what is the limit?
@@boazsides The limit is one life, and however, much money they have.
@@samueldavis2327 Such a political answer
Just don't EXPECT others to clean up your mess. They MIGHT, but it is not to be expected
Wait a minute, wasn't your own trip to antarctica "extreme" and isn't your $190,000 per year salary you get from youtube "extreme"?
I don’t think 190,000 is extreme at all. Everybody’s different though, I can see that being extreme if you grew up poor
@@FindingMyselfOutside It's a lot more than all people I know make. "Extreme" is an opinion so hard to argue about that.
I an sure she makes more than that
@@yourbeautybaby Does she have another channel or something because this channel only has like 7 videos and has less than 750,000 total views which is really good for a channel with so few videos but is only about $4k or so in ad revenue (and that would be really good, likely between $3,000-3,500ish) and she doesn't seem to be sponsored. Either I'm missing something or you guys are grossly misinformed about how much someone with less than 1m views makes on RUclips.
@@Nightwishmaster my first reply disappeared so my apology if this is a double post but yes, she has another main channel with almost 2 mil. You can just search her name and find all this(Eva Zu Beck).
Listen, I don't want to tell anyone what to do with their hard earned money or life; that's not my business. As long as no one, human or animals, aren't getting hurt, and there is as little negative environmental impact as possible, it's not for me to say how people enjoy their free time. That being said, I do wander what the first explorers would think of these luxury type trips; they'd probably laugh! Thanks for sharing - it was a good conversation in our family. Very different opinions.
The first explorers literally took these luxury trips, they created them. They were not considered luxury back then, but tons of money was still spent on them.
I dont see a problem with this, why not? I would if I was rich AF. i am one for luxury though vs a raggedy tent. To each their own.
Personally, if I had spent £50K+ to climb Everest and I was standing in a long queue like they are these days to have a photo taken at the summit, I'd feel like a bit of a chump. Looks more like a package holiday in recent years than an adventure. I wonder how many of these have a go mountaineers also love a bit of trophy hunting in Africa?...Probably a significant percentage.
As always, love Eva's opinion... She's earned her spurs.❤
Yes, and it’s the Sherpa who are the real Mountaineers!
Real mountaineers climb k2
I think of you can afford it then do it. Other than some safety features that may be helpful in keeping a human whole and healthy, I dont think it should be regulated. If the navy and other organizations have to come in to rescue you or recover your body, your insurance policy, that should be required, or if not, since you are uber wealthy anyway, you or your estate should be on the hook to reimburse the rescue or recovery. Any individual who can afford the adventure should also be responsible for their choices.
As far as keeping the natural flora and fauna intact, that should be protected.
Anyway, just my 2 cents.
I often think how grateful I am for our national forest. We can all experience nature and as much adventure for everyone. It’s amazing to me how much land we own as Americans.
The national parks and forests are invaluable assets! But we have destroyed about half of the forested land in the US. That is pitiful!
We don't own land, the government does and they do what they want with that land.
Research why and how the NPS was created, and why we have so much "protected" land.
You alluded to our innate curiosity driving our need for adventure. Why do we want what we want? How does that bucket list item get on our personal list? Are we driven by forces outside of ourselves? In what ways are we better for having spent our time? Thanks for your efforts to answer these questions.
I was a skydiver and wingsuit pilot and was surprised to see the hostility from some people online. It's almost like they enjoy seeing a skydiving death, because it makes them feel smart and superior for sitting on their couch watching life pass them by.
Sort of like watching auto racing and waiting for the wrecks ?
@@stevecooper2873 Maybe..in a way. But I don't see the hostility towards NASCAR drivers for doing what they do. And I like to think that while some people might enjoy the excitement of a race car accident, I doubt if most of them want to see anyone hurt or killed. A lot of people seem to enjoy seeing or hearing about skydivers or BASE jumpers dying, as if they deserve it for taking the risk.
@@headdown1 I disagree. True, there is little hostility to drivers/teams, but it has long been mentioned that many 'fans' are waiting for those spectacular wrecks that sometimes occur. Otherwise, why would they be replayed so many times ?
@@stevecooper2873 But I don't think the NASCAR fans who want to see accidents necessarily want to see drivers hurt or killed. I don't hear much in the way of derogatory comments when a race car driver is killed. Fly a wingsuit into a mountain though, and some people just laugh and say that you got what you deserved.
Not everyone think’s jumping from planes is living your life in fact it would be horrific to me. I’d rather a relaxing island 🏝️ a nice meal or trail walk but we’re all different & that’s ok too.
If people got the money..then why is it an "issue" for anyone else as to what these rich people do? If they are dumb enough to spend $100,000 to climb on an iceberg...that's their business. As the saying goes...a fool and his money are soon parted.
Instead of people in the comments whining about rich people spending stupid amounts of money on an adventure trip...why don't YOU start a company that offers an adventure trip or go to work for one of those companies that do and part that rich fool from his money straight in to your pocket?
Eva clearly does her research, as well as a lot of physical and mental preparation for her expeditions, which isn't always the case. The issue I've seen raised with the Titan submersible is not so much the passengers' decision to go, but the fact that the CEO and company ignored numerous warnings from engineers and experts about the materials and design of the sub. Not to mention they'd had frequent malfunctions on previous dives. Shit happens, but in that case the tragedy was completely avoidable and wasn't because of a freak accident. I fully agree that no one should be shamed for taking risks. I've crossed the Atlantic on an early 20th century brigantine and loved every minute of it. I think it's important to distinguish between a well-prepared expedition (or individual) encountering circumstances outside their control vs sheer hubris.
ONCE INTERNATIONALLY WELL-KNOWN TENNIS PLAYER BORIS BEKER HAD SAID in one of the famous interviews given to BBC. When I defeated top player of tennis, I started losing all following matches. These ultra rich people are looking for new challenges to remain in the field. Money is immaterial to them.
Honestly…they have the means to realize their dreams and they do it, and I get it ! If I had the means to climb Everest, I would. It’s been a dream of mine.
Interesting thoughts. Though it's a pity that you didn't touch the elephant in the room, which is the insane amounts of CO2 the super rich emit with their lifestyle and those crazy travels. I don't think, anything egotistical does justify this kind of incredible injustice ...
I think the money spent on these trips for bragging rights could be better spent helping the less fortunate. Alot of the people paying for these trips are standing on the down troddens back.
Some of those "less fortunate" might think that your weekly grocery budget is extravagant. Would you want them telling you how to spend your money at the grocery store?
@@GuyWithTheDogs I was writing something similar... I'm not a fan of people reaching into my pocket. But it is a point worth considering, especially for jobs like Sherpas. Is it worth your life so some unqualified trouser stain can climb to the top of Everest?
@@JimAllen-Persona Why would I presume to judge the Sherpas' way of life any more than I would judge someone who sits behind a computer screen and types the words, "unqualified trouser stain"? Except that you are apparently just another person hiding behind a computer screen who, for some reason, feels free to tell people they know nothing about how to live and what to do.
Sometimes I think minding other people’s business ought to be illegal.
You see the thing is this world can only do so much for you. Even if you are ultra rich. You will eventually get bored, nothing in this world lasts forever. You can only enjoy it for a certain time.
These extreme travel organizations are "diluting" and "degrading" the efforts and bravery of explorers and heroes of the past. It's callous, cruel and disrespectful.
I agree! Even the adventurers of the past were types driven to have excitement in their lives I believe. At least they were also exploring new frontiers, researching them, helping mankind understand the world. That is not what these folks are doing. They are buying an adrenalin high at great cost to the environment, the people helping them, and the cultures in these places they are visiting! Sad!
Your point is understood but very shallow in nature...In So. California my grandfather when he first came to USA from Spain-He paid for an Airplane ride...He was poor (at that time)...His brother thought he was foolish...It was not the adrenalin...It was seeing the area from above... Let these guys all pay the big bucks for the rush...I will pay the moderate bucks for the view...
More than 6000 people have stood on the summit of Mt. Everest. There is not a sane person in the world that believes this diminishes in any way the achievement of Tenzing Norgay and Edmund Hillary to be the first.
To samknox1. I once heard a man give a talk about participating in an Everest climb with the team whose trek was covered in the Krakauer book Into Thin Air. He made it out with his life. His take away, however, was that he should have never done it. It was far too dangerous and selfish a pursuit! I recently watched a film about a sherpa team that climbed the mountain to take off garbage. They feel the spirits of the mountain are being desecrated by all the garbage! I wonder what Edmund Hillary would think. He was a good man. I have read many books about him. I do not think he would approve of Everest tourism! I think the rich should spend their money on fixing the world they have ruined!
Anyone that makes $32,000 per year is part of the 1% it’s a global scale people.
And stop hating wealthier people than you,you can make as much as they do,NO one is stopping you from that! It’s envy that corrodes a dark heart
For the most part I agree with you. I am glad to hear that your climb to Mt. Vinson was basic & looked ecologically friendly. I don't feel that way about Everest exhibitions. There has been a lot of people who have gone up to help clean up all the mess that others have left @ base camp & above but, it still is an area that should not have the scars it has with so many people climbing it. Also, Sherpas are still getting the short end of the stick economically for their dangerous work. I would offer one correction. You mention the book, "Into the Wild" by Jon Krakauer. That book & "Into Thin Air" are actually both cautionary stories on how people doing these kind of things get in over their heads with tragic results. I would also say I am brand new to both of your channels & really like your video creative work. As to all the people who comment negatively to you not using makeup, choosing to not have children, changing your mind on what you have passion about, I don't agree with them at all! Do what you want it's your life & I appreciate you showing it to us or not if you change you mind about that as well. As the Aussies say, "Good on Ya"!
I think Sherpas should be allowed up there in future to clear up the mess. It should be treated as sacred like Uluru is now.
I don't see the problem, the World functions to seperate money from people...I've travelled the world climbing and trekking but kept costs down by avoiding the honey traps and organising my own guides and fixers locally. If someone wants to spend absurd sums then I take my hat of to the ones seperating them from their cash, its the one useful thing the very rich are likely to do.
Hi there. I am actually the content creator for White Desert, the first company you mentioned. If people are wealthy they can spend their money on whatever they want? Sure, we all wish rich people would spend all their money on climate change etc etc but people also need to look at themselves and ask if they are sacrificing things in their own lives to help combat climate change?? Many of the people I have met on these ultra wealthy trips are the nicest people I have met who do other fantastic things with their fortunes for the environment. Who cares if they want to also spend some hard earned money on a holiday to live their dreams, they are absolutely entitled to do so. There is far too much judgement on others instead of people looking at themselves and making positive changes within. Anyway, that's my thoughts :)
Absolutely agree. I see so many people complain about the ultra rich, yet they do NOTHING themselves.
When people need to be saved or remains recovered, this costs society. If the ultra rich are wealthy enough to go through the experience, especially if it's an experience that they're not physically prepared for, they should be wealthy enough to pay into a fund that will pay to rescue or recover them if needed. What's "ultra rich" and "wealthy enough" and "physically prepared" and where do you draw the line between people who would fund their own rescue? I don't know. I don't think I need to define that here. It's a general thought about responsibility, and who should be responsible to bear the costs of other people's decisions and actions.
Excellent video Eva, Very few RUclips "vlogers" can sit in front of a camera and tell a story or explain something compendiously without talking in circles and repeating themselves over and over again. This was very interesting. Kudos to you 🍻
It's really challenging and Eva does a great job of it.
@@SisterSherryDoingStuff I don't think it's terribly challenging. I think it's more that a lot of youtubers don't take their job seriously. They push record on the camera and wing it. Instead of treating iy like a job - making an outline and plotting out the video before they record.
@@OliverBund True. I'm just speaking from personal experience. Scripts don't even help me. I find it challenging.
@@OliverBundMaking videos is so much harder than it looks. Even making a 5 minute video takes me hours.
All I know is that a lot of them get really upset when they go on a "grand adventure" and find some bum like me who got there on a shoestring budget. It's like the experience has been sullied by my very presence.
Pretty sure anyone who's a billionaire entrepreneur can easily take two months off work. Likely no one would even notice they were gone.
Agree with you Eva, unless everything is within certain confines, on the rails, everyone else follows its seen as stupid or too much today. I think as an individual we should all be allowed to wish our own lives away, but it's others suffering that is the issue. So with Titan for example it's not the 5 people died, it's the fact that countless hundreds of thousands, or more likely millions was spent "searching" for them. And this isn't all that different to when people get stuck up mountains and have to be saved, just on an extreme level. But how do you restrict the possibility of others being negatively affected without restricting the individual of living their lives as they want to, or perhaps...need to. I think in the case of rescue, maybe there should be a cost attached with being saved, though that could potentially be means tested, and applied where needed or not.
Oh, i thaught there was something insightful to come out of a 17 Minute Video. Wether its a good or a bad thing for remote places to be flooded with tourists from an social or economic standpoint. Or from an ecological view.
But no: 17Minutes of 'A Bubble on Facebook is hating against extreme tourism - but i am part of extreme tourism and need to defend myself. Look im not even rich.'
In life, we are programmed at a young age, either through society and/or influences, to gain as much wealth as possible. This includes material possessions and just "things". We do not need these "things" to live a happy and fulfilling life. It is internal and just having the mindset to just live. If you rush around in life only set on gaining wealth, then you will miss the whole reason what makes you alive. You would be amazed at what each and everyone of you are capable of doing if you have the right mindset. To help in the understanding of this, go outside, stop, look down, and pick up a handful of dirt/sand/stones, hold it in your hand, and close your eyes. Regardless of where you live on this planet, we are all a part of it and connected with each other in ways we, as of yet, do not understand. Just live without internal boundaries that we place on ourselves, or what anyone else places on us.
If you were given an opportunity to go into space. Would you ? Eva , you have raised a lot of valid points. As we would say, there is a customer for anything and everything. Jim and Harriet.
A very western take. A philosopher would say that she’s searching for something. The destination or answer is not in adventure or meeting people or new places. The answer is within. Also, ignores the environmental impact of all these folks wanting to follow their dreams (environmental impact is not justifiable just because it is a consequence of someone following their dream). Ultimately, still waiting for this channel to grow / evolve. Not in terms of views, but wisdom and personal growth.
The aircraft flying into Antarctica is actually a Boeing 757 owned by Iceland Air. The smaller aircraft once there are De Havilland Twin Otters operated by a Canadian company, Kenn Borek Air.
oops - i just posted the same thing before i saw your post
James Cameron made it to the very deepest part of the ocean, much deeper than where the titanic sank. He didn't hurt himself at all. I like rock crawling in a Jeep. Many people would like to stop this about everywhere. I can tell you I will bring my Jeep up things I can't climb myself. I'm disabled and can't ride a bike into places. I can't hike into places. I can't stand for prolonged periods of time. Yet trails get closed down because people outside of everything see it and say hey that shouldn't be allowed. They limit where I can go, just because they can still hike in. I can't. Yet I can take my Jeep in. That is as long as these outside people hasn't gotten my trail closed. People involved need to take responsibility and make sure it's safe enough for their standards. After that it's their choice. Someone from outside of everything seeing something they don't understand, should not be coming in to stop things happening. The people that are in the middle know much more, and in the end it's their life, not the person just standing on the sidelines. Glad to hear you think the same way
No car, no rover, no money, so for me it's all visiting local parks on my bike. :)
It’s like judging people for having lavish weddings! I don’t get the shaming in this video… 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Recently had a Facebook ‘friend’ criticize the money spent by people to go into space, the deep ocean, etc. He wondered about the impact those funds could have on helping the poor. I did point out that he owns two $400,000 RVs, one on the east coast and one in the west. Seems like we’re all hypocrites unless we weigh our expenditures against the more humanitarian based options. Do I need to go to Europe? Do I need a new car? A larger home? Could I be satisfied with what I have and give those extra funds to those less advantaged? Easy to criticize the ultra rich who are more well known but maybe we need to look in the mirror. There may be some proportionality here.
What about having a look on how most European countries take care of the poor. Like having rules in place for employers to not creat poordom in the first place. Having taxes that are used to help those of us who need help from time to time. Creating a more homogenous society, economically. Which reduces crime and outsideness. Then you can focus on the huge environmental cricis we are facing.
If people want to spend their money on that, let them!
The thing is… the most amazing adventures I’ve ever had were nearly free with just my regular season and geography appropriate backpacking gear. Maybe add a raft or even an ATV or Jeep and there’s SO much wilderness to experience within a day’s drive of any major city in the US.
And THEN there’s Alaska… 🤩
Exactly. I am not going to pay someone for a "For Profit Adventure". Get out and explore yourself. Most barely explore what's within a few hours of their home.
But PREP is key, and you always have the advantage of rescue via the WWW.
It's not only the social capital involved, for some, as you would understand Eva, is the monetary value attached to creating aspirational content for people to like & share and increase your following which in turn generates you more income. There's a balance between promoting healthy tourism and just pushing out content for people to get sucked into tourist traps when they do choose to book a holiday! 😊
If only we could make cleaning up superfund sites or social work a cool and edgy thing for billionaires to do.
I don’t think it’s as much having empathy for those that go and take on these challenges, as much as it is understanding human nature. There are those that stay by the campfire and those that explore. But the ones that explorer risked life and limb to find something new. Humans have always done that, when the world war a larger place and parts still unknown we went into the oblivion. Now, for the most part we sit in the luxury of our home, on a couch are criticize those that keep that sense of adventure alive. It’s part of who we are and personally I wish more people would keep that spark alive.
These people aren't Explorers, they're Tourists. People with more money than common sense. They aren't looking for a real adventure, to test themselves and their endurance, they want a curated "Experience" tailored to their expensive tastes, something they can use, as you point out, for social clout and envy.
The last decade is full of stupid people trying to bend Nature to their busy schedule: The Titan Submersible, the Everest disaster of 1996(Which no one learned from, judging by the record number of deaths on the mountain the last two seasons), every Blue Origin "space flight," the deaths from the Grand Canyon Skywatch, Julian Sands's death in California, etc.
I read Jon Krakauer's "Into Thin Air" when it came out and I was struck by the sheer number of people, even then, who didn't seem to take the dangers of climbing Everest, very seriously. Over-crowded base camps, tourists jabbering on their cell phones, bringing bottles of champagne to the summit when they should have been carrying oxygen bottles. Even then, I couldn't believe the callousness on display, the belief that money and logistics could paper over all the difficulties climbing one of the most dangerous places on the planet. I thought about all the trash and crowds on the mountains; I can't imagine what Everest must look like today, people seem to treat it like a Sundance Film Festival.
I've climbed Mt. Fuji 3 times in my life. The first time, we didn't make it to the summit because the weather turned very bad, a driving storm that killed one person who got blown off the trail that day. I learned from that experience that poor planning, a careless attitude, and lack of respect for Nature can kill or seriously injure you and I don't think today's generation has the capability for self-reflection to realize there are still challenges in this world that throwing money at it and looking at everything around you through an iPhone, may not turn out the way you think it will.
I disagree with the entire premise, but it is your money, your choice, your life to live. Ty for the perspective. Still love ya.
I love watching explorers,rich or not It’s inspiring and interesting. There’s so much I learn about the world from hearing/watching other people’s stories.
Thank you, this is a good mindset to have. Too many judge others based of personal assumptions.
Every individual persoon should know for themselves what to do with their money, rich or poor. And if people have problems with that, then so what. If you have a dream, then it's your human right to make that dream come thru. It means that you are strong and independent. That's what I like about you and ofcourse your cute smile and beautiful face. Live your life like you do. You are doing great. With love from the Netherlands.
They should be free to engage in any lawful and ethical venture, just like anyone else.
👍🏼🤑Social media is designed for consumer conformity, but I believe our true beauty is found in diversity… just look at nature! 🌱🦎
~Eva, I like what you’re saying about encouraging more people to experience the outdoors. Everyone should experience close proximity to nature, but I agree different people should experience it in different ways. Not all adventures are for all people, just like not all clothing or food are for all people.
~I’m experimenting with my own weekly adventure vlog, where I just returned from a month solo traveling across Ecuador for only $500 USD! Quite the opposite of a luxpedition, but my hope is more people will get inspiration for a life of adventure and joy… even if you don’t make millions or can’t afford expeditions. At 35, I’ve been to 41 countries and never made more than $12k a year!
~btw, I love that you’re boldy sharing your voice on all these topics Eva. Well Done from a fellow solo YT adventurer! ~Wholehearted Hooley
just like her blowing 40k. It is her money, if she enjoyed it and it was a once in a life time experience, good for her.
I am a hiker and backpacking enthusiast and I insist on leave no trace when I go. What this means is you pick up more trash than you leave and ideally you leave no trace. This means I use a stove and do not burn wood. I stay on trail because the last thing you want to do it make another trail.
As long as people follow established laws, rules and regulations, these high risk adventures are permissible. Life is risky, but you can reduce the risk with proper planning and experience.
If they can afford it! All the power to them!! A dirty adventure during the day and extra comfy clean bed at night sounds incredible! :))
8:32 they wouldn't stand a chance without Sherpas. Imagine Usain Bolt carrying you so that you too can experience a 9 second sprint 😅
We live in a (mostly) capitalist world, so if enough folk demand a sevice, somebody wil be happy to provide it and take your money. I think a lot of these adventures could be for social clout/getting one up or after dinner small talk, i certainly wouldnt be spending my hard earned cash on Everest, Antartica or going to see SS Titanic. Having said that, if its your cash, you can spend it how you want. My expensive hobby was single seat race car driving, if i added it up over the time i did it, I could've raised the Titanic or lowered Everest 😂
I wish that the expedition to Evrest would be manage like the one in Antartica: nothing left behind. I don't care what you do to get your dream or how much risk you take, but plz clean it up. I deeply wish that the only think I could see after they left is their footprint... Thank Eva for that Unplugged serie, I love it!
I am not sure I would consider doing something an adventure when the adventure company does everything for the client except wipe their butts.
What is wrong is that there are rich people, and poor people who enable all of that.
Starting the video with "should it be allowed", was bad imo. Of course it should be allowed. If you're rich, go for it. You can't just jealously try and legislate against people living extravagantly.
It's all about the "Escape" from one's reality. If you are a teacher or bank teller or aircraft mechanic, the escape can be as simple as a tent in the bush (woods) for a few days that you carried on your back. For a billionaire, a postal worker, a tradesman, or a hotel concierge, we are looking for something that not only takes us away from where we spend our time, but also takes us away from who we are. A trek along a mountain trail may be enough to reset the brain and re-establish a connection to nature, but for the uber rich, it is not enough to satisfy the hunger for more. This is a psychological anomaly for those who can be whoever they want to be, go wherever they want to go, live however they want to live. They need more, to escape the feeling that they need more.
How about we spend less time thinking about how rich people spend THEIR money and instead talk more about the ways governments waste OUR money?
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Evening, Great discussing point. Each to their own I guess, if you can afford it, you've earnt it and wish to spend it then that's an individual choice, the safety aspect is a whole different ball game! Maybe it's a once in a lifetime adventure or it's an adrenaline aspect of the trip...If there's a multi million industry to support such adventures then it seems to big business for those who can.
That Antarctica St Vincent trip was epic and like you said something that will live with you forever, the cost for that memory...If you can live with it and not do the should I shouldn't I, if's or but's, then it was worth it. Like you say most of us are stuck in the the same O'l routine grinding away our existence and probably never do or afford to do any such adventure, again that's a choice we have to live with. Anyways have a great evening and Health@Happiness to you wherever you may be!
The issue with this is that poor people are sitting at home drinking with paper straws, drying their clothes outside, and taking the bus to work to do our part to keep the earth healthy while the ultra rich are taking helicopter rides to Everest's basecamp and flying 10,000 miles to get there. It's not a zero sum gain. I get wanting to have fun and fulfill dreams, but imo, a lot of these dreams are stupid. Climbing Mount Everest is a stupid dream.
Good thing you don't make the rules...
I see a lot of people in the comments who donate ZERO to the poor, patting themselves on the back for simply saying the "rich should do it".
If this is how you think... You are a meme.
As long as you are spending money someone else is making money so spend your money. That's what makes the world go around.
I admire you for how you have chosen to live life on your terms. You are very brave for doing so. This lifestyle is not possible for most for various reasons, but everyone can step outside everyday existence and have a small adventure.
It would be interesting to hear about your history of being born in Poland and getting to your current position.
Yes. I wonder about work VISAs and things that might keep me from exploring overseas.
Extreme travel is ridiculous. Here in New Mexico, some folks pay to go on hunts and it's silly.
-- One day, a client brought me some gun parts to fix. I asked him how he managed to damage the pieces. It turns out the person was a hunting guide. He rents everything out to the client. The car, the camping equipment, the camper, and even the gun. Many of them have never been hunting before. They operate on some sort of timeline. If you want to be a mountaineer, quit your job and go take a hike of a lifetime.
I think people have the right to spend their money the way they want to. I think people have the right to explore the planet. People also have the right to risk their own lives in the name of experience. Of course we wish some billionaires would give more to the poor, but at the end of the day its their money. As long as folks aren't hurting nature or other people.
In many cases this type of mindset that we have the right to do everything actually hurts nature and other people
@@izabelasoja9417 That's why I said as long as it doesn't
money is government issued form of currency. the people have every right to decide who and how much to reward individuals for their particular contributions to society. corruption happens to have overwhelmed the system at the moment, but the masses have the right and power to organize in the best interests of humanity. whatever that may entail. an individual has no right to excess, before anyone's right to the basics. you people are all trained boot lickers
@@becomingmacy people only read and hear what they want. You clearly said so long as it doesn't lol
@@becomingmacy Then your qualifier would eliminate the rich, to begin with. Because there is no such thing as a self made billionaire. I'm all for that; guillotines were created for a reason.