very sad you haven't made any Harn videos recently. I bought Harn in the 80s and always felt that it was the best. I love it. I know this comment is 5 months late. but, had to say it. I love Harn.
I too love Hârn, and there may be more videos about it. I have to find a different format for these videos that has more reach and takes less time to put together. This type of video unfortunately doesn't pull in audiences large enough to justify the time that I put into it, and the feedback I get is about 50/50 between enthusiastic folks like yourself and others who are ken to nit-pick my pronunciation errors or minor errors of character age (missed when the character's birthday was within the year, off by one year). While everything I do here is a labor of love, I am working on finding a format where I can look back at the effort put into a video and take heart seeing its impact in elevating the source material which I feel deserves to find wider audiences.
I've been Harn curious for years or decades but haven't properly stepped in. Now I decided to get pdfs and started from Kaldor, Tashal, Gardiren, Silver Way etc. The pdf's are prohibitively expensive but of course the quality is super high. Thanks for the cool video! I really appreciate the Britain /Harn comparison.
Once you go deeper than the surface, it takes a stout hull to steer a course with these behemoths. Something something metaphor about how I needed a bit more experience making videos to go deeper with these settings, something something.
Well I will probably not be able to back your Patreon for a few weeks, but I am looking forward to it. Harn is a setting I have long liked in theory, but never really worked with. I have read about it but went no further. That quality of open space is what is most appealing in any setting. It is rare I invest in a setting more than its basic setting guide. As a content writer of 30 years I prefer some conflict suggestions, a few NPCs, and geography.
At the moment the patreon is idle, I can’t keep up with the pace of content I feel merits asking for help at the moment, but I’m hoping for that to change within the year. It is nice to hear the quality of what you’ve seen is on a level where that is a possibility, however.
Once, long ago, the Elves and Dwarves ruled and dwelt upon the whole of the Misty isle. Their numbers were never great, but where there was trade between them there houses of stone they built. When the Jarin came the elves and dwarves taught them civilization. Before them...the eartmasters dwelt here, a mystery to the elder folk as well, possessed of strange magics. Kaldor's own history now stretches back several centuries. Shortly before the foundation of the petty kingdoms that would become Kaldor, lothrim the foulspawner built a ramshackle empire of barbarians and orcs spanning all of Hârn...for perhaps 15 years. The ruin of One of the few cities of that realm lies underneath Tashal. Hârn is a little different than other settings in that there isn't as much cyclical time going on, history repeating itself, etc. Like greyhawk or Faerûn have 💯 💯 year histories. Hârn is in its very first (and perhaps only) high middle ages. The lost and the uncovered are much more likely to be 60, 80, or100 years old than 1000 years old.
Perhaps one day I'll get there. It's much more challenging to condense the complex political economy of Western Hârn into a single video and do it justice.
@@The_CGA if you're considering a video on this, please also consider where to begin for people familiar with D&D-style worlds -- with thought towards which place would make the transition easier. I've been GMing for nearly 30 years, but I'm excited to dive into something that isn't Forgotten Realms or Banestorm.
The great Pendragon campaign is such an incredibly useful resource and cannot be ignored. There is nothing else like its timeline. As for Dark Albion, I do not often agree with Questing Beast, but we were eye to eye regarding Dark Albion. It's just not very content-rich. I also found the author's politics to color his "historical" understanding a nonzero amount.
@@The_CGA Thanks for the quick reply. I find your commentary and videos very well thought out and therefore useful and inspiring. I occasionally run more "realistic" medieval settings, but find it difficult to get players into a medieval mindset for role play. Any insights you care to share would be much appreciated.
I don’t like that it’s landlocked. I have a home brew campaign which was settled long ago by people of another continent. I want to use Harn as that mother continent but am thinking of using Kanday.
I have used a modified DnD in Harn on and off since 1984, Using modified Pathfinder currently, the campaign is called Fugitives of Quimen and is set in Orbaal, another kingdom on Harn,
I like the presentation but you get several of the nouns and pronoun pronunciations incorrect. Avael for instance is not AVAIL. It is AH-VAY-EL. If we assume that these elves are travelers on the way into the west from Middle Earth, this language is Quenya and that means the name of Avael is translated into the Forbidden Elf Land. You pronounce Khuzdul as Kud zool. In the Dwarrow speak it is pronounced CUZ-dool, and you might hear CAZ-dool dropping the H sound. But that would depend on which Dwarves you were speaking too, west or east of the Misty Mountains.
Gosh, thanks This kind of critique is exactly why I am not keen to make more of these videos. The audience is very eager to catch and point out the 'mistakes.' I only have time for so much research and pronunciation research and to then still have time left to actually do the work of making the videos. You may have noticed that this video has about 1000 views on it, while a similarly researched and animated video about World War 2 or even the Seven Years War would have tens of thousands of views on it. The overall reach of the content limits the amount of time I can budget to making it perfect. Ultimately, these videos are made in service of enabling fun Role-Playing, using the settings as a venue for people to pass into an imagined world together. I am sure that the linguistics are important to other folks for whom the loresmithing and con-langing are important. It's the Role-Playing that's important to me and to this channel.
@@The_CGA Oh goodness no! This is like finding a rare diamond and you are tossing it away because it has some dust on it. I and people like me are thrilled with your effort, we are just helping you add a bit of polish to this diamond. Every one wants to be part of something grand. No one gets better without mistakes and in all of your presentation a few minor pronunciations was all I found. You hit the mark 99.9% BE PROUD!. Harn and Middle-Earth are so vast and rich in detail, no one knows it all and those that say they do also sell used cars. I hope you drive deeper into this work of yours because it is a fascinating journey for the rest of us.
@@The_CGA Well it's amusing that Kaldor is phonetically pronounced Kal as in California dor as in door. You then pronounce the river which is the origin of the kingdom's name as the River Kald as in called. River Called is correct and the kingdom should be Call-door. One of the products released by the Harn creators has the rules of pronunciation of Harnic words. Like everything they produce, in my opinion, it makes sense. You should give it a once over. Getting into correct pronunciation only adds to the flavor of what it is you're producing which can only be a good thing in my opinion.
Yeah That’s not my focus area, and I’m trying to Telegraph a feeling of accessibility of Hârn, that it’s useful for gaming and worthwhile for “normie” gamers to engage with. So, respectfully, understanding that some folks are very concerned with pronunciation to the same degree as with lord of the rings and stuff, I will go on with my own focus in other areas with the time I have available to work on these (very involved) videos.
Please do more Harn videos.
Thanks for this video I have been playing Hárn for decades it's one of my favourite settings
very sad you haven't made any Harn videos recently. I bought Harn in the 80s and always felt that it was the best. I love it. I know this comment is 5 months late. but, had to say it. I love Harn.
I too love Hârn, and there may be more videos about it. I have to find a different format for these videos that has more reach and takes less time to put together. This type of video unfortunately doesn't pull in audiences large enough to justify the time that I put into it, and the feedback I get is about 50/50 between enthusiastic folks like yourself and others who are ken to nit-pick my pronunciation errors or minor errors of character age (missed when the character's birthday was within the year, off by one year).
While everything I do here is a labor of love, I am working on finding a format where I can look back at the effort put into a video and take heart seeing its impact in elevating the source material which I feel deserves to find wider audiences.
I've been Harn curious for years or decades but haven't properly stepped in. Now I decided to get pdfs and started from Kaldor, Tashal, Gardiren, Silver Way etc. The pdf's are prohibitively expensive but of course the quality is super high.
Thanks for the cool video! I really appreciate the Britain /Harn comparison.
I really enjoy your Harn and Traveller videos. So happy to see you are covering Harn again!
Once you go deeper than the surface, it takes a stout hull to steer a course with these behemoths. Something something metaphor about how I needed a bit more experience making videos to go deeper with these settings, something something.
This is a very well done video. ❤
Well I will probably not be able to back your Patreon for a few weeks, but I am looking forward to it.
Harn is a setting I have long liked in theory, but never really worked with. I have read about it but went no further. That quality of open space is what is most appealing in any setting. It is rare I invest in a setting more than its basic setting guide. As a content writer of 30 years I prefer some conflict suggestions, a few NPCs, and geography.
At the moment the patreon is idle, I can’t keep up with the pace of content I feel merits asking for help at the moment, but I’m hoping for that to change within the year. It is nice to hear the quality of what you’ve seen is on a level where that is a possibility, however.
I can’t wait for more episodes. Would Tharda be next?
Vital question yet unanswered, noble scribe: what fallen empire(s) is Kaldor built upon?
Once, long ago, the Elves and Dwarves ruled and dwelt upon the whole of the Misty isle. Their numbers were never great, but where there was trade between them there houses of stone they built. When the Jarin came the elves and dwarves taught them civilization. Before them...the eartmasters dwelt here, a mystery to the elder folk as well, possessed of strange magics. Kaldor's own history now stretches back several centuries.
Shortly before the foundation of the petty kingdoms that would become Kaldor, lothrim the foulspawner built a ramshackle empire of barbarians and orcs spanning all of Hârn...for perhaps 15 years. The ruin of One of the few cities of that realm lies underneath Tashal.
Hârn is a little different than other settings in that there isn't as much cyclical time going on, history repeating itself, etc. Like greyhawk or Faerûn have 💯 💯 year histories. Hârn is in its very first (and perhaps only) high middle ages.
The lost and the uncovered are much more likely to be 60, 80, or100 years old than 1000 years old.
Those two maps @3:56 where are those from?
I prefer either Rethem or the Republic myself, but good video.
Perhaps one day I'll get there. It's much more challenging to condense the complex political economy of Western Hârn into a single video and do it justice.
@@The_CGA True, not complaining, I just have my own areas that speak to me in dreams. :)
We had a Kaldor but it is a dollar tree store now
Why Kaldor over the other options? I'm an old man, new to Harn, and curious where to start building my campaign.
This is a great question and is a good foundation for a video to answer this question “what is a good beginner’s locale?”
@@The_CGA if you're considering a video on this, please also consider where to begin for people familiar with D&D-style worlds -- with thought towards which place would make the transition easier. I've been GMing for nearly 30 years, but I'm excited to dive into something that isn't Forgotten Realms or Banestorm.
Good stuff. Will be sure to kick some duckets over when I can.
Do you have any comment on more "historical" settings like Pendragon or Dark Albion?
The great Pendragon campaign is such an incredibly useful resource and cannot be ignored. There is nothing else like its timeline.
As for Dark Albion, I do not often agree with Questing Beast, but we were eye to eye regarding Dark Albion. It's just not very content-rich. I also found the author's politics to color his "historical" understanding a nonzero amount.
@@The_CGA Thanks for the quick reply. I find your commentary and videos very well thought out and therefore useful and inspiring.
I occasionally run more "realistic" medieval settings, but find it difficult to get players into a medieval mindset for role play. Any insights you care to share would be much appreciated.
I don’t like that it’s landlocked. I have a home brew campaign which was settled long ago by people of another continent. I want to use Harn as that mother continent but am thinking of using Kanday.
Harn is an island the size of the combined British Isles. Landlocked is a relative term. But yes, Kanday would be a good choice.
Excellent presentation. Kaldor, with Pathfinder 2 Playtest ruleset?, thoughts?
I have used a modified DnD in Harn on and off since 1984, Using modified Pathfinder currently, the campaign is called Fugitives of Quimen and is set in Orbaal, another kingdom on Harn,
Not to put too fine a point on it Danes = Ivinia, Danelaw = Orbaal
I like the presentation but you get several of the nouns and pronoun pronunciations incorrect.
Avael for instance is not AVAIL. It is AH-VAY-EL. If we assume that these elves are travelers on the way into the west from Middle Earth, this language is Quenya and that means the name of Avael is translated into the Forbidden Elf Land.
You pronounce Khuzdul as Kud zool. In the Dwarrow speak it is pronounced CUZ-dool, and you might hear CAZ-dool dropping the H sound. But that would depend on which Dwarves you were speaking too, west or east of the Misty Mountains.
Gosh, thanks
This kind of critique is exactly why I am not keen to make more of these videos. The audience is very eager to catch and point out the 'mistakes.' I only have time for so much research and pronunciation research and to then still have time left to actually do the work of making the videos. You may have noticed that this video has about 1000 views on it, while a similarly researched and animated video about World War 2 or even the Seven Years War would have tens of thousands of views on it. The overall reach of the content limits the amount of time I can budget to making it perfect.
Ultimately, these videos are made in service of enabling fun Role-Playing, using the settings as a venue for people to pass into an imagined world together. I am sure that the linguistics are important to other folks for whom the loresmithing and con-langing are important.
It's the Role-Playing that's important to me and to this channel.
@@The_CGA Oh goodness no! This is like finding a rare diamond and you are tossing it away because it has some dust on it. I and people like me are thrilled with your effort, we are just helping you add a bit of polish to this diamond. Every one wants to be part of something grand.
No one gets better without mistakes and in all of your presentation a few minor pronunciations was all I found. You hit the mark 99.9% BE PROUD!.
Harn and Middle-Earth are so vast and rich in detail, no one knows it all and those that say they do also sell used cars.
I hope you drive deeper into this work of yours because it is a fascinating journey for the rest of us.
@@The_CGA Well it's amusing that Kaldor is phonetically pronounced Kal as in California dor as in door. You then pronounce the river which is the origin of the kingdom's name as the River Kald as in called. River Called is correct and the kingdom should be Call-door. One of the products released by the Harn creators has the rules of pronunciation of Harnic words. Like everything they produce, in my opinion, it makes sense. You should give it a once over. Getting into correct pronunciation only adds to the flavor of what it is you're producing which can only be a good thing in my opinion.
Yeah
That’s not my focus area, and I’m trying to Telegraph a feeling of accessibility of Hârn, that it’s useful for gaming and worthwhile for “normie” gamers to engage with.
So, respectfully, understanding that some folks are very concerned with pronunciation to the same degree as with lord of the rings and stuff, I will go on with my own focus in other areas with the time I have available to work on these (very involved) videos.
@@The_CGA Fair enough. It's a quality product you put out. I hope you continue to do so.