"The first person to insist gets their way. To resist an insist makes you the person with bad manners. The first insister gets priority, you can't insist an insist." This man lives in a Seinfeld episode
They way he worded it was wack but yeah it's really annoying when a person will not let someone else cover the bill. In their efforts to be polite, they have become rude and wasted everyone's time.
"I get accused of being judgmental, and I believe that I am judgmental, but I think the thing is: you're also as judgmental as me, you're just not as good at it" - the greatest take of all time
I agree with most of what he said but that seems like projection to me, funny rant haha etc, but not everyone is like that, especially over some of the petty shit he goes over. I used to say I hate judgemental people, but no, I realized I hate irrational judgement over stuff that doesn't matter and doesn't affect anyone but the person doing it, at least make it somewhat funny like NL so I don't feel like I'm wasting my time listening to your drivel. Had to get this out of my chest because I recently cut out a friend of mine for being extremely judgemental and arguing over the most mundane and irrelevant shit just for the sake of arguing, huge ego and couldn't take ANY banter back, being around him left me feeling tired after an hour, friendship felt more like a chore.
@@WeAreOutOfWeed13 I was about to say “Was he actually irrationally judgmental or was he just opinionated and unknowingly called you out on something while calling out someone else?” But then you said he couldn’t handle his own banter, hinting at a lack of self-awareness i.e a lack of fair, well-rounded judgment against anything and everything, to include himself. So, irrational.
NL is absolutely in the right here. Manners is analogous to making people comfortable: if everyone agrees to eat when the food comes out, there’s no disconnect - it’s good manners.
I'm surprised he didn't mention consent there. It's obviously not rude to eat your food as soon as possible, but you should ask the others at the table if it's okay, not simply start.
I fucking love how NL can make something so trivial into a full blown controversial debate where ad hominems are flying over the table. (I also agree with him).
I think the trick here is to throw an ad hominem in there first. There wouldn't be much hot air if he didn't first liken manners folks to toddlers, but by doing that, manners folks feel the defensive reflex kick in
i think it only makes sense if you're the type to just sit there and shovel food with max efficiency and all conversation stops. then it's kinda rude cause what can they do but stare at you eating. but if you're a normal person who can chat and eat then there's no problem at all.
I pretended to go the bathroom once to pay only to find out the waitress wouldn’t let me because someone had phoned in advance. That’s when I found out I was in the little league
The ice cream take was insane and is actual seinfeld character behaviour. "I didn't like that sample, could I please get 2 scoops of salted caramel?" "NO SCOOP FOR YOU"
Nah, you know what ice cream tastes like. I'm not going to waste everyone's time by asking for thimblefulls of free ice cream. If you choose to go down that road, you gotta lock in.
@@TheTetrapod Naw fk you, ice scream shops have like 20-40 super unique flavors that I will never have outside of an ice cream shop which i go to twice a year. How the hell am I going to know if I like "gold medal ribbon", cotton candy, bubble gum, rasberry cheesecake or sweet cream? Most of the things I try, I dont end up liking because they are literally novelty flavors, man. they arent made to be mass appealing. Last time I went I had some azzhole servers like you that were pressuring me not to try stuff (the store was empty, it was 8 pm) and I just ended up getting what my friend got, which I didnt really even like. Im not going to the ice cream shop to get chocolate ice cream, Im going to get some cool flavor ive never had before and will probably never have again. Let a person try stuff, its literally the point of the shop.
@@TheTetrapod Naw f off, ice scream shops have like 20-40 super unique flavors that I will never have outside of an ice cream shop which i go to twice a year. How the hell am I going to know if I like "gold medal ribbon", cotton candy, bubble gum, rasberry cheesecake or sweet cream? Most of the things I try, I dont end up liking because they are literally novelty flavors, man. they arent made to be mass appealing. Last time I went I had some awful servers that sounded like you, that were pressuring me not to try stuff (the store was empty, it was 8 pm) and I just ended up getting what my friend got, which I didnt really even like. Im not going to the ice cream shop to get chocolate ice cream, Im going to get some cool flavor ive never had before and will probably never have again. Let a person try stuff, its literally the point of the shop.
@@TheTetrapod Naw awful take, ice scream shops have like 20-40 super unique flavors that I will never have outside of an ice cream shop which i go to twice a year. How on earth am I going to know if I like "gold medal ribbon", cotton candy, bubble gum, rasberry cheesecake or sweet cream? Most of the things I try, I dont end up liking because they are literally novelty flavors, man, they arent made to be mass appealing. Last time I went I had some awful servers that sounded like you, they were pressuring me not to try stuff (the store was empty, it was 8 pm) and I just ended up getting what my friend got, which I didnt really even like. Im not going to the ice cream shop to get chocolate ice cream, Im going to get some cool flavor ive never had before and will probably never have again. Let a person try stuff, its literally the point of the shop.
Like most of our resident Egg's takes, his manners bit falls squarely into the meme of "Hes outta line but hes right" and then of course about 70% of the way in, the "Fake bathroom but really go pay the bill ahead of time" is truly unhinged.
I used to care about not putting my elbows on the table then one day I saw others doing it and realised it's one of the stupidest rules, especially considering we were at McDonald's
I find this generational gap around something like table manners, of all things, to be ginormously petty but also interesting to see that rift between older and younger people. My parents, for example, they were pretty old school about this sort of stuff; Only eat when everyone has their food, you must hold the fork in a specific way in your left hand and the knife in the other hand regardless if you may be left handed or not, you need to place them down while dressing the table in specific ways, yadda yadda etc. etc. Meanwhile, a friend of mine was brought up a little more loosely when it came to that, to a dogma that essentially was "just don't be gross by throwing or vomiting across everyone on the table and you'll be fine", and when we've had meals at restaurants together we had our meals essentially the same way as one another. I personally do not care a iota if someone starts to eat before I did, I don't want to make anyone stare at their plate at a restaurant watching their food get cold because I haven't gotten mine yet. If anything, I prefer it because seeing them enjoy theirs would only hype me up more for mine, I truly see no point in waiting.
i get what you mean, but the visual of someone being physically hyped up and vibrating in their seat because their friend is eating food at a restaurant is really fucking funny
The only reason "waiting for everyone to get their food before eating" ever became a thing surely must've been because it maximizes time available to talk. If the people start eating at different times there'll always be at least one person unable to talk due to being preoccupied with consuming food. That being said, I don't give a shit. I'm not afraid of some silence, as long as everyone else feels the same way ofc.
@@cyanthrope Talking with food in your mouth may be a choking hazard. It's not likely, but some people are paranoid, and some people have probably been put through the ringer by bad luck and would rather be seen as weird.
this is a very midwest ideal, i have just started (as a 28 year old) eating my food when I am hungry. We just discussed arbitrary and outdated social norms in my class yesterday too so this hits
NL isn't that crazy with this joint but let's be honest he doesn't have the balls to do this at somebody else's birthday meal. Guy's waiting for Debbie's risotto to get rizzed up.
the only manners that matter to me is being polite to service workers. If someone is cruel to someone who is obligated to be nice to them, I no longer want anything to do with that person
@@ckorp666 I think you're looking too much into it. You need to stop spending so much time on leftbook. Not everything has to harken back to some social commentary.
@@saz100 The "social commentary" in question being something completely reasonable to expect? Because... everyone deserves dignity? And service workers are no different? What's next, you're gonna tell me "Don't stab people" is the most political statement of the year?
NL's ice cream rule is sort of interesting, but it disincentivizes being curious. Even flavor-curious customers that know deep down they might not like what they sample, so they're gonna sample a safe choice, then use they're other two samples to try new stuff. The rate of unnecessary sampling might go down or go up, it depends.
I did literally go to a debutante ball and cotillion lessons. There are some rules sort of hidden behind the push and pull of a kindness dance (like the “I insist” dance). This is one of those dances. The “rule” is that you don’t eat until everyone’s food arrives. The real correct thing is that when you’re the only one who doesn’t have food is to say “please, go ahead!”
I personally don't eat until others have their food, not because I think it's polite, but because I feel it's kinda awkward sometimes. Usually I am mid conversation when I get my food and so theres no need to stop my line of thought just to eat before others. Unless I am starving, I wouldn't eat before other people have their food too. Have never experienced my food getting cold doing this. I wouldn't look down on someone for eating before others have their food, though.
Agreed on the early food thing, but hard disagree on the ice cream. Often there's a flavor I know is bussin and don't need to try, and another which is more of a risk. I'll try the risk, and if I don't like it, get the one I know is good. Also two samples is the absolute max, three is just insane.
I'm very situational when it comes to this. Company, whether there's an ongoing conversation, how hungry I really am, location, all of it can affect my decision to eat early or wait. But I dunno. No one here really gets mad if you eat when your food arrives, or wait. You're there to eat, chat, and have a good time. Not show off your "proper manners".
I've noticed that manners aren't going away between generations, they're just shifting. Used to be "Wait until everyone has food, use the silverware". Now it's "Complain gently, don't make the life of this minimum wage earner hell"
tipping as well. When I was a kid, tipping was (supposed to be) as a reward for excellent service, but as I grew up it became good manners to tip because the minimum wage earner relies on it and they can't control 90% of the things that we tend to think of as "good service" in the first place (food quality/temperature/timing, having enough time to share between the tables they're assigned, etc). Especially once we got delivery as a norm and tipping delivery drivers was introduced
completely agree on the waiting for people to get their food before eating thing. I truly do not care one little bit if someone eats before me, but I PREFER to wait for other people to get their food. That's just what I like to do. But i'm not gonna impose my preference on the other person and make them wait for me to get my food. It's all about preferences and having the decency to not impose them on others
“To resist an insist makes YOU the person with bad manners.” THANK YOU. I never thought that refusing a kind gesture was as selfless as people like to make it seem. If a person is already offering then don’t make them suffer or feel awkward for it. Swallow your pride.
I've always been taught to just eat when the food arrives if the meal is warm and wait for everyone to get their food if it's cold. I wouldn't mind if someone starts eating their cold salad before I get my food, but I'd wait for others to get their food if I'm in a nice restaurant or with people I'm not very close with
If it's lunch at work with colleagues, I usually eat as soon as the food is at my table. When I am attending a dinner and food lands before me first, I slowly nibble on it and try to enjoy it while maintaining a conversation. No need to rush in that case.
restaurants where I am from bring the food at the same time for all people in tiers. soup comes first for everyone who wanted soup and they can eat, no other foods are brought out until the soup is done. then comes various dishes (steak, cooked dishes etc). after all is eaten, comes desert.
I think he's putting too much stock into efficiency and not enough into social flow. If we're having conversation and my linguine shows up, I'm not gonna hold my finger up as I shove forkfuls of noodles down my gullet because they're at the optimal temperature, I'm gonna wait until they're cold so my friend and I can talk about bullshit until their well done steak comes out and we can eat, as equals.
I can't decide if you are a hero for being a friend to the friendless or a villain for willingly associating with those who order their steak well done.
The ice cream idea is insane like what if i saw a flavor and i wanted to see if it beat the regular? like this doesnt help him at all? it just makes the line longer since he also hast to try the regular to order the regular.
The correct answer here is you wait if you have your food and if you’re the waiting party you hit the people who have food with a “no no go ahead please don’t wait”
As a host at a restaurant i have had parents meeting their daughter and son-in-law come 5 minutes early and hand me their card before the rest of the party got there so that they could be the ones to pay for lunch.
I had this happen very recently. Me and my buddy got some hot wings together. He got his order like 5 seconds before mine i said feel free to eat dude. Like i dont give a shit if youre eating. He was like nah its cool and waited. I thought it was dumb. I know about that manners rule but i certainly didnt want him to wait. Just eat. It doesnt do anything to me.
@@mtsoccerman yes he did want to wait. I am just saying I dont understand it and I would have preferred him to eat and not let his food get cold for some dumb polite gesture. just eat man. im gonna eat when mine comes out.
@@MrHeart12 if he prefers to wait until your food comes out, who cares? He isn’t necessarily doing it for you. I know I would be sorta uncomfortable digging in when other people are still waiting, especially a 2 person meal.
@@MrHeart12because it’s a cultural thing that many people have heavily ingrained in them? I wonder if NL would look at his elders in Korea while drinking? I would guess not.
I agree, the difference in wait time is so far apart in cafés and restaurants. Someone's spaghetti comes first, they eat first, because the next baked cheese rice set comes out in another ten - fifteen minutes. The spaghetti would be cold from the A/C.
Finding hair in food doesn't bother me but once I got chow mein from panda express and found 3 separate hairs while eating. The last one was long as fuck and It took like a full 3 seconds to pull all the way out of my mouth. Definitely didn't eat any more after that lol
It’s not necessarily about manners. It’s about sharing the experience. It’s weird if one person is sitting there while everyone else at the table eats.
NLs rants about social norms are so entertaining yet so mystifying to me. Maybe it's because of the tism but I just sorta do what I feel like and the people I hang out with do what they feel like and we just kinda roll with it.
He's right about the ice cream btw, and if anyone is pressed about it, just realize if you take 2 samples and you don't like either, you just go with the usual instead of risking a 3rd bad sample. It's as simple as that.
"The first person to insist gets their way. To resist an insist makes you the person with bad manners. The first insister gets priority, you can't insist an insist."
This man lives in a Seinfeld episode
You nailed it, he's in his Constanza arc. Interested to see the next phases of his evolution.
he's right though
They way he worded it was wack but yeah it's really annoying when a person will not let someone else cover the bill. In their efforts to be polite, they have become rude and wasted everyone's time.
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Isn't this whole rant literally a Curb episode?
"I get accused of being judgmental, and I believe that I am judgmental, but I think the thing is: you're also as judgmental as me, you're just not as good at it" - the greatest take of all time
I agree with most of what he said but that seems like projection to me, funny rant haha etc, but not everyone is like that, especially over some of the petty shit he goes over. I used to say I hate judgemental people, but no, I realized I hate irrational judgement over stuff that doesn't matter and doesn't affect anyone but the person doing it, at least make it somewhat funny like NL so I don't feel like I'm wasting my time listening to your drivel. Had to get this out of my chest because I recently cut out a friend of mine for being extremely judgemental and arguing over the most mundane and irrelevant shit just for the sake of arguing, huge ego and couldn't take ANY banter back, being around him left me feeling tired after an hour, friendship felt more like a chore.
@@WeAreOutOfWeed13 I was about to say “Was he actually irrationally judgmental or was he just opinionated and unknowingly called you out on something while calling out someone else?” But then you said he couldn’t handle his own banter, hinting at a lack of self-awareness i.e a lack of fair, well-rounded judgment against anything and everything, to include himself. So, irrational.
Bald man tries to grow hair by eating it
Its working but all the hair goes to his chest and back
What are you talking about? He's not bald.
Chat was all like: The lord of the manners, THE LORD OF THE MANNERS NEEDS TO GET HIS FOOD FIRST
NL's "I insist" rule is something that I 100% agree with but never would have been able to articulate. Genius among men.
when our bald 🐐 starts a bit with “can i tell you something” i KNOW its about to get straight silly
NL is absolutely in the right here. Manners is analogous to making people comfortable: if everyone agrees to eat when the food comes out, there’s no disconnect - it’s good manners.
the problem is that i unironically like waiting for others to fet their food too, and he says that if he insists, suddenly im rude if i dont want to
It's good manners to counter-insist at least once, if it's about paying the bill.
I'm surprised he didn't mention consent there. It's obviously not rude to eat your food as soon as possible, but you should ask the others at the table if it's okay, not simply start.
Communication is key, as always
Communication is key, as always
I fucking love how NL can make something so trivial into a full blown controversial debate where ad hominems are flying over the table. (I also agree with him).
I think the trick here is to throw an ad hominem in there first. There wouldn't be much hot air if he didn't first liken manners folks to toddlers, but by doing that, manners folks feel the defensive reflex kick in
i think it only makes sense if you're the type to just sit there and shovel food with max efficiency and all conversation stops. then it's kinda rude cause what can they do but stare at you eating. but if you're a normal person who can chat and eat then there's no problem at all.
Use your phone like a normal human?
@@CaioVictor20101one person shoveling food at max speed while the other person scrolls through twitter is not ideal lol
@@CaioVictor20101Why even go out to eat if one person is doom scrolling while the other doesn't loon up from their plate? What a dystopian take
@@CaioVictor20101 using your phon while out with friends is actually bad manners thats weird af
@@CaioVictor20101haha this is a hilarious take, can't believe people don't get a joke here!
Hero streamer risks life for country by sucking it up and eating the hair at a restaurant
I pretended to go the bathroom once to pay only to find out the waitress wouldn’t let me because someone had phoned in advance. That’s when I found out I was in the little league
this is the level of banter alibility I aspire as a person
It’s possible just takes a lot of practice
The ice cream take was insane and is actual seinfeld character behaviour.
"I didn't like that sample, could I please get 2 scoops of salted caramel?"
"NO SCOOP FOR YOU"
Nah, you know what ice cream tastes like. I'm not going to waste everyone's time by asking for thimblefulls of free ice cream. If you choose to go down that road, you gotta lock in.
ice cream isn't a flavour ya cooked chook
@@TheTetrapod Naw fk you, ice scream shops have like 20-40 super unique flavors that I will never have outside of an ice cream shop which i go to twice a year. How the hell am I going to know if I like "gold medal ribbon", cotton candy, bubble gum, rasberry cheesecake or sweet cream? Most of the things I try, I dont end up liking because they are literally novelty flavors, man. they arent made to be mass appealing. Last time I went I had some azzhole servers like you that were pressuring me not to try stuff (the store was empty, it was 8 pm) and I just ended up getting what my friend got, which I didnt really even like. Im not going to the ice cream shop to get chocolate ice cream, Im going to get some cool flavor ive never had before and will probably never have again. Let a person try stuff, its literally the point of the shop.
@@TheTetrapod Naw f off, ice scream shops have like 20-40 super unique flavors that I will never have outside of an ice cream shop which i go to twice a year. How the hell am I going to know if I like "gold medal ribbon", cotton candy, bubble gum, rasberry cheesecake or sweet cream? Most of the things I try, I dont end up liking because they are literally novelty flavors, man. they arent made to be mass appealing. Last time I went I had some awful servers that sounded like you, that were pressuring me not to try stuff (the store was empty, it was 8 pm) and I just ended up getting what my friend got, which I didnt really even like. Im not going to the ice cream shop to get chocolate ice cream, Im going to get some cool flavor ive never had before and will probably never have again. Let a person try stuff, its literally the point of the shop.
@@TheTetrapod Naw awful take, ice scream shops have like 20-40 super unique flavors that I will never have outside of an ice cream shop which i go to twice a year. How on earth am I going to know if I like "gold medal ribbon", cotton candy, bubble gum, rasberry cheesecake or sweet cream? Most of the things I try, I dont end up liking because they are literally novelty flavors, man, they arent made to be mass appealing. Last time I went I had some awful servers that sounded like you, they were pressuring me not to try stuff (the store was empty, it was 8 pm) and I just ended up getting what my friend got, which I didnt really even like. Im not going to the ice cream shop to get chocolate ice cream, Im going to get some cool flavor ive never had before and will probably never have again. Let a person try stuff, its literally the point of the shop.
This is the egg at his most larry david pilled
It wouldn’t be an NL rant without the Midwest getting slammed
Like most of our resident Egg's takes, his manners bit falls squarely into the meme of "Hes outta line but hes right" and then of course about 70% of the way in, the "Fake bathroom but really go pay the bill ahead of time" is truly unhinged.
It was already a good bit, but the darth vader scream at 2:25 just makes it better.
He should've asked if the chatters wait for the entire party to get their food at a buffet before they eat
Good point tbh, the way you get the food somehow matters in matters? Haha
Everyone - no eating your movie popcorn until the trailers are done and the real movie starts
@@Michael-kp4bd Mate, if the popcorn isn't gone by the time you're actually sat down, was it even good popcorn?
I used to care about not putting my elbows on the table then one day I saw others doing it and realised it's one of the stupidest rules, especially considering we were at McDonald's
I love how every time he goes on a rant the dumbest angriest chatters come out of the woodwork
I never understood elbows on the table... its comfortable and dosent change anything
Egg man definitely stole his child's chicken tenders because he couldn't control himself
he doesn't care about hair in his food because he has to take all the ones he gets
"Common sense is a chaotic aggregate of disparate conceptions, and one can find there anything that one likes."--Antonio Gramsci
Gramsci was a dirty commie
My day gets like 60% better whenever I hear NL go on a rant that I agree with completely.
I find this generational gap around something like table manners, of all things, to be ginormously petty but also interesting to see that rift between older and younger people. My parents, for example, they were pretty old school about this sort of stuff; Only eat when everyone has their food, you must hold the fork in a specific way in your left hand and the knife in the other hand regardless if you may be left handed or not, you need to place them down while dressing the table in specific ways, yadda yadda etc. etc. Meanwhile, a friend of mine was brought up a little more loosely when it came to that, to a dogma that essentially was "just don't be gross by throwing or vomiting across everyone on the table and you'll be fine", and when we've had meals at restaurants together we had our meals essentially the same way as one another. I personally do not care a iota if someone starts to eat before I did, I don't want to make anyone stare at their plate at a restaurant watching their food get cold because I haven't gotten mine yet. If anything, I prefer it because seeing them enjoy theirs would only hype me up more for mine, I truly see no point in waiting.
I don’t care if other people eat before me but I do feel kinda weird if I’m like the only person eating at the table so I wait in those situations.
yo this dude needs to shift enter more. holy wall-o-text
i get what you mean, but the visual of someone being physically hyped up and vibrating in their seat because their friend is eating food at a restaurant is really fucking funny
i aint readin all that
@@mtsoccermani dont know how its not weirder to sit their with food going cold infront of you
"What's the point of going to the restaurant then" Andy
The only reason "waiting for everyone to get their food before eating" ever became a thing surely must've been because it maximizes time available to talk. If the people start eating at different times there'll always be at least one person unable to talk due to being preoccupied with consuming food.
That being said, I don't give a shit. I'm not afraid of some silence, as long as everyone else feels the same way ofc.
what caveman can't talk to someone while they're eating a bite, and then eat a bite while that person replies
@@cyanthrope Talking with food in your mouth may be a choking hazard. It's not likely, but some people are paranoid, and some people have probably been put through the ringer by bad luck and would rather be seen as weird.
this is a very midwest ideal, i have just started (as a 28 year old) eating my food when I am hungry. We just discussed arbitrary and outdated social norms in my class yesterday too so this hits
The fake "i got it" on the check cracks me up i do that all the time with my big italian family, and they all always know i am NOT paying 😂😂😂
NL isn't that crazy with this joint but let's be honest he doesn't have the balls to do this at somebody else's birthday meal. Guy's waiting for Debbie's risotto to get rizzed up.
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4:40 while NL was evaluating the act to 'resist an insist' : "that sounds like a board game"
I always wait until everyone has their food, however I wouldn't hold it against someone who ate as soon as their food comes out.
I always tell people "you can go ahead. I wouldn't wait for you."
NL*says something normal*
chat "NO NO NO -2 -2"
I mean he’s right. Just eat your food. Literally who cares.
I always found people who care that much about “manners” to not actually be that nice.
the only manners that matter to me is being polite to service workers. If someone is cruel to someone who is obligated to be nice to them, I no longer want anything to do with that person
@@ckorp666 I think you're looking too much into it. You need to stop spending so much time on leftbook. Not everything has to harken back to some social commentary.
@@saz100Facebook is the biggest right wing shithole on the internet
@@saz100 The "social commentary" in question being something completely reasonable to expect? Because... everyone deserves dignity? And service workers are no different? What's next, you're gonna tell me "Don't stab people" is the most political statement of the year?
@@saz100 fellas is it #wokemindvirus to *checks notes* be nice to people?
6:25 "...or born in the Midwest" 😂😭
NL's ice cream rule is sort of interesting, but it disincentivizes being curious. Even flavor-curious customers that know deep down they might not like what they sample, so they're gonna sample a safe choice, then use they're other two samples to try new stuff. The rate of unnecessary sampling might go down or go up, it depends.
Nah son free ice cream. I be going in, getting hella samples then leaving a 5 in the tip jar. No scoops for me
“to resist an insist makes you the person with bad manners” god he fucking cooked here. that’s so true
I think he should make a "play mobile phone on the table is also bad manners" argument, it would blow chat out.
"You go first through the door" "No, you, good friend." - This is what I call a Canadian Stand-off
NL: I have manners
Also NL: 🍣
I did literally go to a debutante ball and cotillion lessons. There are some rules sort of hidden behind the push and pull of a kindness dance (like the “I insist” dance). This is one of those dances. The “rule” is that you don’t eat until everyone’s food arrives. The real correct thing is that when you’re the only one who doesn’t have food is to say “please, go ahead!”
I personally don't eat until others have their food, not because I think it's polite, but because I feel it's kinda awkward sometimes. Usually I am mid conversation when I get my food and so theres no need to stop my line of thought just to eat before others. Unless I am starving, I wouldn't eat before other people have their food too. Have never experienced my food getting cold doing this. I wouldn't look down on someone for eating before others have their food, though.
I might be brainwashed by the matrix, but his shiny head is trying to convine me that being traditionally polite is somehow "wrong".
Agreed on the early food thing, but hard disagree on the ice cream. Often there's a flavor I know is bussin and don't need to try, and another which is more of a risk. I'll try the risk, and if I don't like it, get the one I know is good. Also two samples is the absolute max, three is just insane.
Go ahead and eat Andys when I eat pay and leave before they get their food. 😶
Will he beat the no manners allegations?
fellow somali
My whole exposure to Northernlion is him being the chillest most normal person alive & his chat being certifiably insane.
I'm very situational when it comes to this. Company, whether there's an ongoing conversation, how hungry I really am, location, all of it can affect my decision to eat early or wait. But I dunno. No one here really gets mad if you eat when your food arrives, or wait. You're there to eat, chat, and have a good time. Not show off your "proper manners".
I wait cause i eat real quick and if i get my plate first I'm gonna sit there like an asshole for the next 30 mins
I've noticed that manners aren't going away between generations, they're just shifting.
Used to be "Wait until everyone has food, use the silverware". Now it's "Complain gently, don't make the life of this minimum wage earner hell"
tipping as well. When I was a kid, tipping was (supposed to be) as a reward for excellent service, but as I grew up it became good manners to tip because the minimum wage earner relies on it and they can't control 90% of the things that we tend to think of as "good service" in the first place (food quality/temperature/timing, having enough time to share between the tables they're assigned, etc). Especially once we got delivery as a norm and tipping delivery drivers was introduced
completely agree on the waiting for people to get their food before eating thing. I truly do not care one little bit if someone eats before me, but I PREFER to wait for other people to get their food. That's just what I like to do. But i'm not gonna impose my preference on the other person and make them wait for me to get my food. It's all about preferences and having the decency to not impose them on others
Nah because if u eat earlier u have to watch them eat when ur done and that pressures the other ppl to hurry up
“To resist an insist makes YOU the person with bad manners.” THANK YOU. I never thought that refusing a kind gesture was as selfless as people like to make it seem. If a person is already offering then don’t make them suffer or feel awkward for it. Swallow your pride.
5:12 it insists upon itself
worried about who get's their food first like the problem isn't people putting their phones down for 45 minutes
I've always been taught to just eat when the food arrives if the meal is warm and wait for everyone to get their food if it's cold. I wouldn't mind if someone starts eating their cold salad before I get my food, but I'd wait for others to get their food if I'm in a nice restaurant or with people I'm not very close with
If it's lunch at work with colleagues, I usually eat as soon as the food is at my table.
When I am attending a dinner and food lands before me first, I slowly nibble on it and try to enjoy it while maintaining a conversation. No need to rush in that case.
watching this while i wait for the bald man to go live
NL was cooking with this one
bro my eyes will find any hair in any food, i have a superpower with that shit
6:55 Wait so this is the bald guy that talks about the matrix all the time? i cant believe he was a former kickboxing champion.
I love his confidence in his hypothetical icecream
restaurants where I am from bring the food at the same time for all people in tiers. soup comes first for everyone who wanted soup and they can eat, no other foods are brought out until the soup is done. then comes various dishes (steak, cooked dishes etc). after all is eaten, comes desert.
When I go out to eat with my parents the rule is you should start eating when your food arrives so its not getting fucking cold for no reason.
I have shamelessly used the First Strike / retaliation “I got it!” paying the bill method before lol
I always just eat slower so that I can try to time it so we are all done at the same time
i knew you'd do vid on this, as evidenced by my chat msg
I was mostly listening and not watching and was so confused to see FEED GRANPA BLOOD.
This is a +10
I give it a grace period usually. If my food came and no one else's has in like 5-10 minutes, I'm eating my food
What if I don’t wanna eat my food first, because I wanna eat it with you?
then insist that you want to wait
I think he's putting too much stock into efficiency and not enough into social flow. If we're having conversation and my linguine shows up, I'm not gonna hold my finger up as I shove forkfuls of noodles down my gullet because they're at the optimal temperature, I'm gonna wait until they're cold so my friend and I can talk about bullshit until their well done steak comes out and we can eat, as equals.
I can't decide if you are a hero for being a friend to the friendless or a villain for willingly associating with those who order their steak well done.
only time I wont eat is if the person paying doesnt have theirs yet
0:37 this mans CRACKED
For me it depends if the other person is a fast or slow eater
Actually a great take, as always he explained it really well too
The ice cream idea is insane like what if i saw a flavor and i wanted to see if it beat the regular? like this doesnt help him at all? it just makes the line longer since he also hast to try the regular to order the regular.
It’s okay to eat before someone, BUT you have to offer a fry
THIS GUY DOESNT MISS
The correct answer here is you wait if you have your food and if you’re the waiting party you hit the people who have food with a “no no go ahead please don’t wait”
you should wait until the foodless person invites you to start your meal. Just digging in without a word is barbaric
As a host at a restaurant i have had parents meeting their daughter and son-in-law come 5 minutes early and hand me their card before the rest of the party got there so that they could be the ones to pay for lunch.
If you can do something small to let people around you know they’re respected and love, why wouldn’t you?
16:40 ice cream mulligan LUL
I had this happen very recently. Me and my buddy got some hot wings together. He got his order like 5 seconds before mine i said feel free to eat dude. Like i dont give a shit if youre eating. He was like nah its cool and waited. I thought it was dumb. I know about that manners rule but i certainly didnt want him to wait. Just eat. It doesnt do anything to me.
sounds like he wanted to wait?
@@mtsoccerman yes he did want to wait. I am just saying I dont understand it and I would have preferred him to eat and not let his food get cold for some dumb polite gesture. just eat man. im gonna eat when mine comes out.
@@MrHeart12 if he prefers to wait until your food comes out, who cares? He isn’t necessarily doing it for you. I know I would be sorta uncomfortable digging in when other people are still waiting, especially a 2 person meal.
@@mtsoccerman thats weird. lol why would you feel uncomfortable eating food?
@@MrHeart12because it’s a cultural thing that many people have heavily ingrained in them? I wonder if NL would look at his elders in Korea while drinking? I would guess not.
I agree, the difference in wait time is so far apart in cafés and restaurants. Someone's spaghetti comes first, they eat first, because the next baked cheese rice set comes out in another ten - fifteen minutes. The spaghetti would be cold from the A/C.
Idk i think it's weird to masticate in front of others if they ain't doing it back.
manners maketh the mald
like the cioppino, that was sublime
Its funny, fancy restaurants pride themselves with bringing out all the food out at the same time.
I asked my grandpa why he have manners and he said "No one knows, we forgot"
Finding hair in food doesn't bother me but once I got chow mein from panda express and found 3 separate hairs while eating. The last one was long as fuck and It took like a full 3 seconds to pull all the way out of my mouth. Definitely didn't eat any more after that lol
It’s not necessarily about manners. It’s about sharing the experience. It’s weird if one person is sitting there while everyone else at the table eats.
NLs rants about social norms are so entertaining yet so mystifying to me. Maybe it's because of the tism but I just sorta do what I feel like and the people I hang out with do what they feel like and we just kinda roll with it.
He's right about the ice cream btw, and if anyone is pressed about it, just realize if you take 2 samples and you don't like either, you just go with the usual instead of risking a 3rd bad sample. It's as simple as that.
The prison fit goes hard
I have never heard of this waiting to eat rule. What is wrong with these people?
The 2 first times i had A&W there was hair in it but i keep goin back